1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: And heads up as we get into it. Today's episode 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: does contain graphic descriptions and explicit language. As such, it 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: may not be appropriate for all audiences. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 2: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: production of iHeartRadio. 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: my name is Nolh. 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: super producer Paul Michig. Control decands. Most importantly, you are 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: here and that makes this the stuff they don't want 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: you to know. Folks, longtime fellow conspiracy realists, you have 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: heard us talk about the war on drugs, the controversy 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: surrounding the US justice system, and honestly, heck, hundreds, if 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: not thousands, of US related conspiracies. Today we are diving 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: into this and much much more with a very special guest, 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: the legendary comedian, the author, the man, the myth legend, 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: and now podcaster, Michael call Youer. Thanks so much for 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: coming on the show. Michael, Woo woo woo, Thank you 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: for inviting me. 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 4: Thank you. We got it. Immediately. 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: Michael, We've been watching so much of your appearances of 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: just your your life's work, sir. It exists on the internet. 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: It is incredible to just go through the years, the 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: years and years that you have been performing on stage 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: and off stage. It is an honor. No, it's not 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: that you're old, sir. It's that you know what you're 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: doing and you've been doing it for a long time. 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: So we just prolific. That's thank you. I keep telling 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: people on the shows that people keep calling me legend, 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: but it's not because I've done anything particularly. It's just 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: called outlived all the mother motherfuckers. 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 1: So so okay, let's for anyone who who somehow doesn't 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: know Michael. You are a Chicago native. You you became 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: known as the King of Venice speech for a brutal schedule. 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Could you tell us a little bit about five shows 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: a day? 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: You know, that's my legacy is Venice Beach. I love 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: Venice Beach. Venice Beach defined me as a man and 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: as a human being because I spent nine years on 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 4: comedy that from eighty six to ninety five, I did 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: five one hour shows every Saturday and Sunday without fail. 44 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: No matter what time of year it was, and people 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: showed up sometime they didn't, but we did them shows. 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 4: And I did like six figures a year for nine 47 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 4: years weekends only telling jokes. And everything else came from 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: it as well. But you know, it all started for 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: me in Chicago because I was a comedian in little 50 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: clubs and stuff, and my friends taught me to doing 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: street performance and I did it on State Street and 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: I made some really good money and I became for 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: I knew it, like the best street performer in eighty 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: five in Chicago, just telling jokes and stuff. But then 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: winter came, and wouldn't I trying to hit no damn 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: joke on State Street in December? So I packed up 57 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: everything that would fit my nineteen sixty seven Buikelet's saber. 58 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: I sold everything else and I drove out to California. 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: I didn't even know about Venice Beach, but I knew 60 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: California had a lot of beaches, and I thought that 61 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: it was hot here all year round. Not okay, it 62 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 4: was cold and shit. In fact, it was February and 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: I had gone up to San Francisco to do Fisherman's Wharf. 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: There were seals in the water, that's how cold it was, seals. 65 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: But I was out this street before me because that's 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: all I knew, and I saw all I had and 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: everything I owned was in the car. So I was 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: staying on that boardwalk and tell jokes. And about a 69 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: month in I passed out on the boardwalk and I 70 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: got up and drove himself to the hospital and they said, 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: you called stomach flew out there. Brother, you need to 72 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: go somewhere where it's warmer. And by then my wife 73 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: told me, you gotta come this place called Venice Beach, 74 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: you know. And the rest is history. Man. I loved 75 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: Venice Beach. I still love it, and we're going back 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: out this summer and shooting one hour was special on 77 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: the spot where I started, so it's gonna be pretty amazing. 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: We were all just out there in that neck of 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 5: the woods and we were staying in what was the 80 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 5: Manhattan Beach, which I think Ben pointed out, feels a 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 5: little Stepford wives. It's a little He's got a little 82 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 5: bit of less of that kind of psychedelic, cool hippie 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 5: energy that Vennis Beach has, But there is something electric 84 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 5: about Vennis Beach where you have, like, you know, the 85 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 5: the dancers, kind of bee boys and stuff. 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: And that's now I can't imagine what it was like then. 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: What was it like then? Yes, well, you know I 88 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 4: call it DNN now the eternal Circus. I mean, it's 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: always something going on. When I was out there, there 90 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: was Robert Gruenberg. He's the chainsaw juggler. This guy would 91 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: throw a running chainsaw in the air and catch it 92 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: with an apple and with a raw egg and without 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 4: breaking it. And while he's throwing them in the air, 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: he's biting the apple and eating the apple. And he 95 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 4: was doing that on the beef, I mean. And he 96 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: made good money too. He had left and went and 97 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: got himself a dealershit, a used car dealership. But the 98 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: irs was watching him on Venice Beach and they guestimated 99 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: how much money he made and took him to court. 100 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: He had spend forty thousand dollars to keep from going 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 4: to jail, you know, because they were coming out looking 102 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: at your money and going one dollar, four dollars, seven dollars, 103 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 4: eight dollars. You know. 104 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: Let's get into that. Let's get into it. So as 105 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: you know this stuff, they want you to know. Ass 106 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: we like to leave no question unasked. We applied critical 107 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: thinking to things that have sometimes dismissed this conspiracies. And 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: one thing people always talk about in the world of 109 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: conspiracies around this time of year, around April in the 110 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: US is Uncle Sam and the irs faster. 111 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Well he got me bent over a 112 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: barrel right now. I tell you, I just brought new 113 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: I just brought new money people on the team just 114 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: to get me out of some of my tax trouble 115 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 4: because I ain't trying to do the Wesley Snipes thing. 116 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: You know, I don't do well in jail jailing. I'm 117 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 4: too cute for jail, you know what I'm saying. I'm 118 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: not to do somebody's wife, right, Okay, So we might 119 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: take them a minute, but they're gonna catch up to you. 120 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: You know. 121 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: It's gonna be like a Wesley Snipe's case in point 122 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 4: or whatever. And especially if you're a high profile. 123 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 5: But we're talking about people that normally we'd consider as 124 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 5: being super under the radar, like street performers, and you're 125 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 5: talking about somebody planted in the crowd making notes about 126 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 5: income coming from street performance. 127 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: Is that a rumor, Michael, or was that true? Do 128 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: you think watching. 129 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: No, that's true. That's what they would do. They would 130 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: come out and they would have guys sit in the 131 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: audience like they just enjoying the show. But they sit 132 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: there and watch and see how many people throw money 133 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: in the hat, and they see if it's five of 134 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: teams whatever, and then they guessed the me how much 135 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: they think you got, and then they charge you based 136 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: on that. Of course, we ain't got no receipts. We 137 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: street performers. We got what they put in the bag, 138 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: you know, like Uncle Sam need a couple more dollars, 139 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 4: fuck out. 140 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: He That's the thing. No, this is great, this is 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: the thing. It's it's actually kind of rare for us 142 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: to hear about a real conspiracy that's totally on familiar. 143 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know about the guys, but I had 144 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: never heard this one. 145 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: But it makes perfect sense. They do a lot of 146 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: volume in that. 147 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 5: I mean people they're just constant crowds and they have 148 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 5: a system and they're working it to get every dollar out. 149 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 5: It's a hustle and it's a thing to behold when 150 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 5: people are doing it right, you know what I mean. 151 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: I've got a sou I don't know if you heard 152 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: this one we were able to confirm this thought. This 153 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: was a rumor growing up. But the IRS apparently doesn't 154 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: care if you commit crimes. It's not their department if 155 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: you're out selling drugs. In theory, they just want to 156 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: know how much money you made and they want to 157 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: be cut. 158 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they want their part. I mean, it's the same 159 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: thing with now we have marijuana that you could purchase everywhere, 160 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: cause the government finally figured out how to tax it, 161 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: you know. So it's not about right or wrong, it's 162 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: like how much is in it for me with my part? 163 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: I under say, I want to win my part, you know, 164 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: and they owe me. But my mama said, you know, 165 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: a dollar nine a dollar when they catch you, you know, 166 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: So we do the bith we can. 167 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 5: And isn't that interesting with with what you're talking about 168 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 5: about marijuana prohibition, like the into what you said, Ben, 169 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 5: the IRS they're not there to p prosecute crimes and 170 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 5: they're technically kind of an apolitical organization in theory, But 171 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: whether or not they could tax marijuana was a political issue, 172 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 5: not one that they controlled necessarily, but it had to 173 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 5: be kind of legalized and regulated on a state by 174 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: state level, and that's not where the IRS comes in. 175 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 5: They come in to figure out how to collect the 176 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 5: money once they you know, once it's made legal. So 177 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 5: that's super interesting. And like for a time there were 178 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 5: places where, you know, in California, if you go to 179 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 5: a dispensary, they'd give you your change back in cash 180 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 5: because the banks wouldn't mess with them. 181 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: Yet. Oh, let me see that IRS will go in 182 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: and take your money too, you know. I mean, if 183 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: you leave your money in the bank, you you at risk. 184 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: You know. I had I had one check, I did 185 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: wages whatever. I did a movie with ice Cube called 186 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: The Long Shots with Kiki Palmer was in it as well. 187 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: She was fourteen years old and just absolutely brilliant. And 188 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: we did that and I had to check. I had 189 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: to check out things well before aready seven hundred dollars 190 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: and I wanted the offer to get the check. That 191 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: check was one dollar and fought and nand cent and 192 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: Uncle Sam had left me a note. I was like, 193 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: why can't be right? 194 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 5: They said, politely worded notes. 195 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: What it was just said that we are taking this 196 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: portion of your check because of bag taxes. And just 197 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: like that, a portion they left dollars all if they 198 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 4: left me enough to get a Snickers. Now that's the Snickers. 199 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 4: That's not the one that you have in the theater. No, 200 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: that's the the fun size it. 201 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: What do you call it fun size when there's less 202 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: of it? Whatever? 203 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: Problem? This is cute, it's cute. 204 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: Fine, whatever do you mind if we stay on movies 205 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: for just one moment. There's so much to talk about 206 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: here with you, Michael, but I just I want to 207 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: throw something at you and see what your reaction is. Okay, 208 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: this is this is the first time I ever saw you. Okay, Okay, 209 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: when you when you said this, Williams com sink pac 210 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: Ram set Mos ninety two h taspect. 211 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 4: That's hot shot part dude hot Let me tell you wait, 212 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: when we get to the fence and it's a pence, 213 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: you could step over. But it's lot damn it, it's 214 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: a lot on panicking. Get a hold of yourself. Man, 215 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That movie was a main 216 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: Let me tell you I bought my first home with that. 217 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: I did twenty six weeks shooting that film, and it 218 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: is one of the gifts of Venice Beach. I got 219 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 4: so much work from being on Venice Beach because Venice 220 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: Beach is the second largest attraction in California, second only 221 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: to Disneyland. So everybody comes to Venice, they take their 222 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: people down to Venice Beach. If somebody come in California, 223 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: we got to take you to Venice Beach. So I 224 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: got for talent though too. Internally, LA people, I'm sure 225 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: going there looking for the next big thing exactly. That's 226 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: shopping for talent out there. Look, I brought a girl 227 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: on my morning show. I have a morning show, guys 228 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 4: that I do five days a week. It's called the 229 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: Michael Caya Morning Show on YouTube. So I was out 230 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: there this past Sunday and this little white girl. I 231 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: didn't even see her. I just heard Fleetwood Mac the 232 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 4: album for Fleetwood Mac, and I was like, that is Soka? 233 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: Who's playing that? I turn it's this little white girl 234 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: and hold up. This little white girl was singing so 235 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: pure I brought and put on my morning show Monday. 236 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: She blew the roof off the sucker. I said, when 237 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: you singing these covers, do you have original? She said, 238 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: I'm about to drop my original album. She came back 239 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 4: on Wednesday blew the roof off the soucker with originals. 240 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: So she'll be on my show, well coming up, because 241 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: I'm about to celebrate our six hundred show. She's gonna 242 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: be on that one too. Venice Beach is the eternal circus. 243 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: You got artists out there. It used to be a 244 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: time you can get a slice of pizza for a dollar, 245 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: probably cost two dollars. Now you know, you got girls 246 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: walking around and bikini's barely clad. It's all kinds of 247 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: objects and things. You come back. You go out there 248 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: with twenty dollars and have a good afternoon as long 249 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: as you don't have to pay for parking. It's amazing, 250 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 4: you know. And then after Drum Beach that stuff and 251 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: the Sundowners where a whole bunch of people stick around 252 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 4: from six thirty to about seven and watch the sun 253 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: literally go down and behind the ocean, you know. So 254 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: it's a lot of wonderful stuff going on. When I 255 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: get out there, they weren't making money, so I was 256 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: teaching a lot of them how to get their money. 257 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 4: Because they had the guy who would walk on glass. 258 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 4: Uber Uber. This guy would break fresh glass, a pile 259 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: of glass. He'd jump off a chair into the glass 260 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: with no shoes on it. Then he did he pooched 261 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 4: the glass back up, so it's a mountain of glass. 262 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: He laid on it with no shirt. A lady was 263 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: standing on his chest. A man was standless thighs and 264 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 4: he smoked a cigret. Then he get up, wouldn't have 265 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: a scratch on him. The boy was making like forty 266 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 4: dollars a day. I said, no, no, no, no no, they whoa, 267 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: you ain't doing this right. We're gonna have to work 268 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 4: on that part because you got to get your money. Plus, 269 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: one of his big things he was doing is he 270 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: wouldn't collect his money till after his last piece. You 271 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 4: can't do that. You can't do your last bit until 272 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: you get the money. Your last bid has to be 273 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: the hook. You know. You gotta tell them. I get 274 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: some who I'm about to kill y'all with this, but 275 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: I got to get my money first, okay, to play, 276 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 4: you know, and then you get your cash, then you 277 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: do the last bit. So I was showing them out 278 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 4: there how to get money. I have a money grabber. 279 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: I know we're not visual, but y'all can see this. 280 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 4: We can money grab I can take this grab and 281 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: reach out and get. 282 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: Your you know, at home picture like a he man 283 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: or like a like a transformers, these things. 284 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: The reach for stuff up on the cabinet and stuff 285 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: like that. I was grab yours is the one that 286 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: the kids used. That's not even like the real one, 287 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's the one that's that's amazing. 288 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: These also this is odd by the way, for anybody 289 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: who happens to be by the Venice boardwalk. You can 290 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: find Michael's shoe and handprints there as well as an 291 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: impression I believe of that money. 292 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 4: That money grab her. You had to commemorate what idea 293 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 4: when I was out there, because we made it. And 294 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: see here's what I was telling you earlier too. I 295 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: got a lot of work from there. I got hot 296 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 4: shots due from there. I got Martin. I became a 297 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: regular on Martin from there because everybody comes to Venice, 298 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: and then they were coming, I'd have the biggest crowd, 299 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: so they worked their way in. And then they say, 300 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: here's a guy with two to four hundred people standing 301 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: still in the sun for an hour and then happy 302 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: to pay. But are are people taking advantage of folks 303 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 4: like that? In Hollywood? You think of so much kind 304 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: of crooked. 305 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna make you a star, I'm gonna 306 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: pay you more than you're making on the boardwalk, but 307 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 5: probably underpaying the hell out of you, and also then 308 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 5: maybe signing you to an exclusive contract and like kind 309 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: of owning someone's life, you know, is that Did you 310 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 5: see any of that kind of stuff? 311 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, people doing that all the time. You know. Talent 312 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: is always in danger of the people who want to 313 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: exploit them, you know, so there's always folks out there like, 314 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: but you need to be on your game, you know 315 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I mean, a trick ain't a trick 316 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: if you know the trick. But if you don't know 317 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: the trick, then the trick's on you. You know. I 318 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: was at one network that ran me out of there, 319 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: and I couldn't figure out how I got out of there. 320 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 4: How I thought I was doing so good? And my 321 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: brother told me the story. He said, every evening, as 322 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: the sun went down, there was this little village and 323 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: a prince would come out to the edge of the 324 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 4: river and walk across the river, and all the people 325 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: would hide in the bushes and watch the prince walk 326 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: across this river. Every evening. No one had the courage 327 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: to approach him, and finally a little child. You know, children, 328 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: they always they don't care. They'll just say some shit. 329 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: A child just stepped out from behind the bush and says, 330 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 4: tell me, sir, please tell me what is the secret 331 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: of walking across the river? And he says, the secret, 332 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: my child, is you got to know what the rocks are. 333 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 4: Come on, I didn't know what were you know what 334 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying. If you weren't being on top of it, 335 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: that's all. But yeah, people will exploit you. So you 336 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: have to watch for that. If you're an artist, you 337 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: have to watch for that. I've always done all my 338 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: own stuff. Now I'm building a but I usually book myself, 339 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: you know. I manage myself, you know. And when I 340 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: say God is my manager, that means I only got 341 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: to pay ten percent and he answers every call. You know. 342 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: So so sometimes doing it yourself is the way that works. 343 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: But the go to furthest in this industry, using these 344 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: people to help you, just in the higher eche lines. 345 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: Because about success. It's about access. That's what success about 346 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: in this time. It's access. Who you know? You know? 347 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: Everything's about communications and relationships. Who do you know and 348 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: how do you talk to the people you know? Will 349 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: determine your altitude, how high you rise? You know, so 350 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: you but the snakes are always in the grass. There's 351 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: always the people there with a card and a gimmick. 352 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: All over La. Everybody got a card and a gimmick, 353 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: you know. 354 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Oh. I can't remember the last time 355 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: I visited LA without someone trying to sell me a screenplay, 356 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: you know. And maybe maybe they're good, But I respect 357 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: the hustle because you're reminding me of that, oh, that 358 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: excellent quote. It's very, very old. It's like thousands years old. 359 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: If you want to travel fast, go alone. If you 360 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: want to travel far, go together, you know. So what 361 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: you're saying about having a team makes it makes a 362 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: lot of sense. And one thing we really wanted to 363 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: pick your brain about today is the inside, the inner workings, 364 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: getting under the hood of the world of entertainment, because 365 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: you have, in addition to acting and honing your skills 366 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: in this, in the world of entertainment at large, you 367 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: have been in the trenches. You've seen the stuff backstage 368 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: that the audience never sees or understands. So do you 369 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: have any I guess you would call them conspiracies or 370 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 1: theories in the world of entertainment and in the in 371 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: the backstage, because I know stuff probably gets wild, Like, 372 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: what is something more people need to know about stand 373 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: up comedy for instance? 374 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think if you want to talk 375 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 4: about what's going on in the back room, you know, 376 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: you just have to be careful because this so many 377 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 4: clicks seeing Hollywood, everything is clique. Everybody in they group. 378 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: You got to be in they group, or if you're 379 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: not in their circle. It's so funny, it's so funny. 380 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: I had a girlfriend and I want to introduce her 381 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: to a friend of man, and she said, well, you 382 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: can't just bring people in our circle. They got to 383 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 4: be invited. And I was thinking about the job that 384 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: she does for a living, and I was like, bitch, 385 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: you gotta circle. Ain't nobody trying to get your fucking girl. 386 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 4: Anybody trying to get in your circle. I was trying 387 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: to introduce you to my friend, you know what I'm saying. So, 388 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 4: but it's clique out here. It's like if you not 389 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: in their group, certain people only work with that certain 390 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: group of people. They ain't messing with nobody else. Now, 391 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 4: some of that is conventional wisdom. You know, if you're 392 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: really trying to get your act together. You really want 393 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 4: to circle yourself with four to five of your best 394 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 4: or closest friends and associates and keep everybody outside of that. 395 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 4: That way, there's no damage to the team or the 396 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: company because you know you could trust that handful of people. 397 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: The danger comes in when you start bringing in strangers, 398 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 4: the people you don't know who have different agendas and 399 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: different ideas and to throw things off. So there is 400 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 4: a sense of having a small group. But here in Hollywood, 401 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: there's the thing about you have to be in people's 402 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 4: per their their circle, their group. They have to give 403 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: you their benediction, so so you know if they say okay, 404 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: then then you could work. And I mean, I've mean, 405 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many times people have blocked me. 406 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: I've been blocked tons of time from people who I 407 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 4: thought were my friends. Some of the people are people 408 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: that I brought up in this town and won't give 409 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: me the tame a day, but they'll respect me. The 410 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 4: same people that won't work with me. If I walk 411 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: in the room, they'll come across the room and shake 412 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 4: my hand. Hey brother, how you doing. But those same 413 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: people won't book me. Just think about this, how many 414 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 4: how many tours have you seen me on all you 415 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: stop black comics? And I can stand told to told 416 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: with any comic in America, white or black, and I 417 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 4: could do an hour faulty, shouty easy with continuous laugh 418 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 4: or not. I tell a joke that I walk around 419 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 4: talking shit for eight minutes. Then I tell a joke 420 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: I'm talking about bam bam bam our faulty easy without 421 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 4: even thinking about it. And you don't never see me 422 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: on these tools or all these top comments. You see 423 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: the same ones going out all the time, but you 424 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 4: don't see me. I've been doing this not thirty seven years. 425 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about sticking. 426 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 5: With that because you speak out of school? Is that 427 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: because people think that you're you know, I don't know. 428 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 5: There's what what is it about? I don't you either 429 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 5: rub them the wrong way. I don't have an idea. 430 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 4: And that's the worst part of it is their cowardice. 431 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 4: The people who don't work with you will never tell 432 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 4: you why. They don't say nothing to you about it. 433 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: Just all of a sudden, you know you ain't getting 434 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 4: that call. All of a sudden, you know you ain't 435 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 4: getting called in on that. Some people, some things people 436 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: call me in for and I don't even go because 437 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 4: I know which team that is, and they're not going 438 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: to hire me. If I come in, tell mclothes off, 439 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: set myself on fire, you know. So so so you 440 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: just you have to know who you're working with and 441 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: who's not. That's why I'm all down for self reliance. 442 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 4: Do your own thing. That's what street performance was. So 443 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: wasn't to me. I ain't gotta kiss nobody's ass to 444 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 4: walk on Venice Beach and tell a joke. You know. 445 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: I couldn't even get in the clubs until I did 446 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: Vennis Beach. I was when I first came here in 447 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: eighty six. Laugh Factory was the only one let me 448 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: come in. Laugh Factories about the size of my dining room. 449 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: In eighty six they didn't even own the upstairs yet, 450 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 4: they just had the main level. And in eighty six 451 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: I was there, they let me come in on a 452 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 4: Thursday and do five minutes for free. That was it. 453 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: Comedy store wouldn't let me in an improblem, none of them. 454 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 4: So I went to Venice Beach and I was holding 455 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: the biggest crowds of Venice Beach and one day Bud 456 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: Friedman who created the im Prov and owned all the 457 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: m problem and rest his heart rest is soul. We 458 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: only lost him about three months ago. I love, love, love, 459 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 4: love love that man. Bud Freeman and his wife Alex 460 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: saw me out there and they said, I'd like you 461 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: to become part of our family. I mean it just 462 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 4: then did just invite me to come and tell a Joe. 463 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: He made me part of the Improv family. So all 464 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: of a sudden, I was doing that show on A 465 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: and E called evenings at the Improv. I did like 466 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 4: eleven of those. I was all the Improv clubs because 467 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: someone saw me who had a way to give me access, 468 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 4: and they allowed me to have that. 469 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 5: You know, all right, hold up a second, let's take 470 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 5: a quick break and here a work from our sponsor, 471 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 5: and then'll be back with more from Michael. 472 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: We're back. 473 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 3: Let's get into it. 474 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 5: It's interesting with podcasting and YouTube, which is obviously a 475 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 5: place you found success in now too. That's kind of 476 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 5: like the street performing of the Internet in some ways. 477 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 5: It's sort of democratized by people that kind of form 478 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 5: around you, and it's unconnected to any clicks. Obviously, there 479 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 5: are podcast networks and YouTube networks and all that, but 480 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, the impetus is on 481 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 5: you to do your thing and then see what happens. 482 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 5: And I'm interested if you see that parallel and how 483 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 5: that's worked out for you. 484 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: To see that parallel. And people have been telling me 485 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 4: for years, Michael, you'd be so good on podcasts, You'll 486 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 4: be on pot and I never knew how to do it. 487 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 4: And now I'm able to do it, and I'm having 488 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: the time in my life doing it. I'm having great 489 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 4: conversations with people. But once again, was also about to access. 490 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: It was because i Heeart believed in me and gave 491 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 4: me this opportunity. Then I'm able to do this podcast. 492 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 4: I would never on my own just said Okay, I'm 493 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 4: just gonna set this up in my house, do a podcast, 494 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: put it where if I want to know, I wanted 495 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: to be with some of the top folks that I'm 496 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 4: going to podcasts. I mean, all I want to do 497 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: is beat Bill Burr. If I could just, you know, 498 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: just like Remelion, I would love to have him on 499 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: my show. But and he knows me. He knows me 500 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: too because I called him. Some other people that had 501 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: me come in for a podcast for their company. I 502 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: came in to meet them and they weren't interested, and 503 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, fane, but at least I got 504 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: a chance to come say hello to them. But when 505 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 4: I went in, I called Joe Rogan. I said, Joe, 506 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 4: what I do when I go in this interview? He said, Man, 507 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 4: just go in and be you. And at the end 508 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: of the day, he said, you don't need nobody else anyway. 509 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: You could do it on your own. And I thought, 510 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: that's cool, and that's a great idea. Boy, I'm a 511 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 4: lazy at Lamma Bean and I wasn't about to do 512 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: it on my own. And plus I'm one seven projects already, 513 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 4: So I'm like, how do I figure out how the podcast? 514 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: How do I do it right? How do I compete? 515 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: All those thoughts? But I have like like two of 516 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: the greatest attorneys in the world, and Ricky Anderson is 517 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 4: the one who put the deal together for me, and 518 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: he has several clients as well, and he was shopping 519 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: for me. Man, you know, the other people came to me. 520 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: Who's got a somebody's got a free radio, some radio. 521 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: But they had offered me to come over there, but 522 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 4: they don't offer no money. Well, shit. If I ain't 523 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 4: gonna make no money. I could make no money at 524 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 4: my damn house. Why I gotta com to not make money, 525 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 4: you know? And So the thing is, I think being 526 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: self sufficient is important and entertainment you should do stuff 527 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: that you could pay yourself. See, I'm on stage every 528 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 4: night saying can you tell that I love what I do? Now, 529 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 4: keep in mind, I'm an addict. Okay, I'm a crackhead. 530 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 4: So I did crack for twenty three years, and as 531 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: of this March first, I have twelve years of pure sobriety. 532 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 4: So I've been here doing comedy, film and everything fucked up. 533 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: You hear me. I was rimped, but nobody knew it. 534 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 4: I never went to work, no shit like that. I 535 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: never did that. But during that rain of being high, 536 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 4: I did so many shows and so many films and 537 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: nobody even knew it. But my system knew it. The 538 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 4: universe knew it. So I wasn't able to travel at 539 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: the speed of light like I could of if I 540 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: stayed clear eyed and focused and stayed on my work. 541 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: I started with the Steve Harveys of them, I started 542 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: with Cedric Entertainer DL Hughley. Them cats used to look 543 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: up to me. All them guys are rich enough to 544 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: pee cream and me. I'm still a day player. But 545 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: that's okay. I'm happy with it because I own myself. 546 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I own Michael mother bunkaya. 547 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: All this is, man, I don't owe nobody nothing. I 548 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: don't do no harm to nobody on purpose. All I 549 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 4: do is perform. But I'm performing everywhere. I'm killing the game, 550 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 4: you know, and the thing she is I ain't beholding 551 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: to nobody. I don't have to go to none of 552 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 4: those cats and say, man, I made it because of you. Yeah, 553 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: because y'all ain't brought me. I brought me and keep 554 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 4: on bringing me, you know. And that's why I want 555 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: to send that message to other people, because there's a 556 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 4: lot of people who turn around and walk away. They 557 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: don't get enough assistance. You know, if somebody don't help them, 558 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 4: you know, you don't need Look, everything you need to do, 559 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: whatever you want to do on this planet is encoded 560 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 4: within you. You already have all the answers. It's just 561 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 4: a matter of you having the courage to go inside 562 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 4: to find that thing and then work towards it a 563 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: little bit every day. Always talk about a system called 564 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: a fifteen minute of a day system. If you're willing 565 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 4: to spend fifteen minutes a day on something you really 566 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: want and within three to six months you'll have it 567 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes a day. And I'm just talking about Monday 568 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: and Friday. Monday to Friday, you could take Saturday and Sunday, oh, 569 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 4: twenty four hours in a day if you spend fifteen. 570 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 4: If you weigh nine hundred pounds and you want to 571 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: be a ballerina, do fifteen minutes a day, fifteen minutes 572 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: a day and that on that topic, you may be 573 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 4: spent fifteen minutes looking at plus size women dance. You 574 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: may spend fifteen minutes at a bar and your a 575 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 4: house trying to do a dance bar. You may be 576 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 4: doing the five steps, practicing them and talking about it 577 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: and talking about it. Because see, the universe wants to 578 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: know you commit to anything. It opens doors that you 579 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 4: didn't even were there. So what happens not everybody you 580 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: talk to you tell them I'm gonna be a ballerino. 581 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a ballerina. Fifteen minutes a day you 582 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: working on it. You might spend fifteen minutes a day 583 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 4: just watching other ballerinas. But I guarantee you, by that 584 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 4: third month you would have done so many things towards 585 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: it and generated so much energy. Your phone gonna ring, 586 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 4: You're gonna pick the phone up. Hey, hey, Charlotte, we're 587 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 4: putting together a concert with plus sized women and we 588 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 4: heard did you are trying to get in the game. 589 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: You'll be like, holy shit, how did that happen to me? 590 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: It happened to you because it happened for you, and 591 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: it happened for you because you worked towards it fifteen 592 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 4: minutes towards it every day. I swear you're coming through you. Yeah, yeah, 593 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 4: you're conduit for it. 594 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: We've all seen seen elements of that. I just wanted 595 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 5: to asked really quickly about the addiction side of things. 596 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 5: I mean, was that something that you felt like, I mean, 597 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 5: I know that may have happened before. It seems maybe 598 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 5: that was all kind of coinciding. But was that something 599 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 5: that you used to be able to just be on 600 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 5: all ways, go go go or were they separate? And 601 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 5: then how are you able to get rid of that? 602 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 5: How are you able to like, you know, replace that 603 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 5: energy that you were spending on that which you know, 604 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 5: it makes you feel like you have energy, but it's 605 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 5: actually sapping you have energy. So how did you kind of, 606 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 5: you know, reconcile that that was kind of. 607 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: The start of all of it when you said it's 608 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 4: actually sapping energy. You actually think you're getting something, you 609 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: think you're going somewhere, and it's really draining you. You know. 610 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm doing a one man play in one hundred Cities 611 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 4: called Michael Cawley's Mama. If you like your Mama, you're 612 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: gonna love his play. And the play is an hour 613 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 4: and a half place and I play seventeen characters. So 614 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 4: I played my mother, and my father, and my four 615 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: big brothers and me at four ages. The alcohol is 616 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: crack heads and church ladies did run my community. And 617 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: I get to tell that story about the addiction. But 618 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 4: I get into addiction. I got into drugs called it 619 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 4: was just fun. But I've always been responsible when it 620 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: comes to work. So I never went to work high. 621 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 4: I never would never go on the stage high. I 622 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 4: wouldn't do nothing. I respect what it is I do, 623 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: but like to say about to say earlier, I tell 624 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 4: people on stage, if our job, our job is to 625 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: train the universe to pay us to do what we 626 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: love to do. See, because if you're just doing what 627 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: you love to do, I swear the Bible says that 628 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 4: your gift will make a way for you. So if 629 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: you just doing what you love to do with all 630 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: your heart and all your passion, all the elements you 631 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 4: need for to succeed will come to your door. It 632 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 4: will walk up to you. You won't even have to 633 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 4: go look for it. So in doing this play I 634 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: talk about all of it. The addiction for me is 635 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: I was just party man. I used to do freebase 636 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 4: before they even knew of a thing called crack. I 637 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: used to sell freebase in Chicago. Did that made me 638 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: want to taste cocaine? I liked it. I liked it 639 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: a lot. But then I wasn't really messing with it 640 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: till I got to the Venice. Now I get to 641 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 4: Venice and all so many people on Venice were getting high. 642 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 4: I started trying to get high, and I enjoyed it. 643 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: You know, I had a lot of money and I 644 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: didn't owe nobody nothing. It was Robin Williams who said, 645 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: cocaine it's God's way of saying, you making too much 646 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: goddamn money. You know, and so I have all this money. 647 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: I leave in the beach with a sack of money. 648 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 4: I ain't owe nobody nothing. And one day I said, 649 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: I wonder if I take this rock and I drop 650 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: it on this hot piece of glass. What happened? Okay? 651 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: And then twenty three years later, my AS's trying to 652 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: dig my way out the whole. Now parts of me 653 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: say that maybe that's why I'm penalized. Maybe some of 654 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 4: the people who don't work with me have having in 655 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: the back of their man well he's crackhead, or he 656 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: was a crackhead, or maybe during my crackhead days, people 657 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 4: may have found me arrogant. I probably said things that 658 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: I shouldn't have said the way I said them, or whatever. 659 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: I don't know. I know one thing in my life. 660 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 4: I've never never deliberately gone out of my way to 661 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: hurt anybody, to step on nobody. I won't step on 662 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: you to get the job. I don't want the job 663 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 4: so bad that I'm to fuck you over so I 664 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 4: can get an extra five dollars. I'm just not going 665 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 4: to do that. I've just been living my life the 666 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: way I want to live it, unfolding unto my greater self, 667 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: and I don't always get it right. She is. Sometime 668 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: I fuck it. 669 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: Up, but I would love I want to talk about 670 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: one of those. I want to talk about one of 671 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: those times. I saw it. Not long ago, I don't know, 672 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: it was years. I think at this point, you were 673 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia, you were in a park, a public. 674 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: You go. 675 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: First of all, let me say the name Cigar Williams. 676 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 4: Matter fact, let me say that Cigar Williams can can 677 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 4: kiss my ass. Let me just say that he's my 678 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 4: great friend in Philadelphia. His name is Cigar Williams. He 679 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: takes me to buy me a cigar of smoke, and 680 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 4: she knew some shit was up because he didn't get 681 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 4: one for him. And we take the cigar. We like 682 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 4: the ciga. We go back into the park U Writtenhouse 683 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 4: Square in Philadelphia, which is the rich park. All the 684 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: rich white people leave it, you know, black people even 685 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: in that park. He might see one every nine and then, 686 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 4: but it's always six or eight police patrolling a damn park, okay, 687 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 4: because they got money like that. So I'm sending this 688 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 4: smoking a cigar with my partner, and we see a 689 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: cop harassing this young brother who has uh he's autistic, 690 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: and he was handling a guy paper saying he's autistic, 691 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: and the guy's writing him a ticket. So I'm staying 692 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: with cigarette. William we laughing at the police. You know, 693 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: he's a bicycle cop, you know what I'm saying. And 694 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 4: this way he get all his power. He's sitting there 695 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 4: right now home an innocent person a ticket. Well, he 696 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: saw us laughing at him and made a bee line 697 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: over to me. He said, you can't smoke in his park, 698 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 4: and I said, cool, I can put it out or 699 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: I could walk it out the park. He said, you 700 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: put it out and give me your ID. So he 701 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 4: takes my ID. Right, So while he's got my ID, 702 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: he's taking twenty minutes to run my ID. You know, 703 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: doesn't take no damn twenty minutes run ID. That means 704 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 4: you running a man's background. He's trying to see if 705 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 4: I got warrants in some way he can do more 706 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 4: to me. Not backup. Then showed up another double meat 707 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: eating fat ass cop. Did better have a pistol because 708 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 4: he ain't gonna never catch nobody. He's better throw a 709 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: stick at you. He can't catch it, so now his 710 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 4: mutton Jeff both toiling over riding a ticket for me smoking. 711 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 4: So I held my phone up and filmed the whole 712 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 4: thing on FaceTime live, and I dogged him. I talked 713 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: about him like a dog. I said, oh man, he 714 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 4: just loved check. The requisition order went in for the pistols, 715 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: but they won't come in till Thursday. You know what 716 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: I mean. I'm just and the thing that made people 717 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 4: love it because one point seven million people saw that. 718 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: The thing that made people love it is I showed 719 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: him how to deal with the police when they came 720 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: to a black man wrong, but how to do it 721 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 4: in a way that's respectful enough that he don't have 722 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 4: to beat you up and shoot you an ass and 723 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: taste you. You know. But some of us forget when 724 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 4: the police show up that they're in charge. We forget 725 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 4: that shit. Fuck you pull me over for naw. Okay, 726 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 4: now you're gonna have to do the Ridney King dance. Okay, 727 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 4: you can't do that. What you need to do is 728 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 4: calm the fuck now when the police come, as long 729 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 4: as I'm talking calmly, I'm not going off. I'm not 730 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 4: reaching for sudden suddenly. They can't do shit to me, 731 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: but talk to me, and I talked about him. I 732 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 4: talked about his ass so bad. Oh lord. Now, once 733 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 4: I got through and he gave me my ticket. Wait, 734 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: and while I'm talking to him and he's writing his ticket, 735 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: a white guy walks through, brazenly smoking a cigarette. By now, 736 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: it's thirty people standing around watching this. So I pointed 737 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: at him when I say, officer, look at the white 738 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 4: guy smoking. He said, I'm too busy to look up, 739 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 4: and he just kept writing. Right. So, because I left, 740 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: and I didn't do what a lot of a lot 741 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 4: of black people do a lot of black people. We 742 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 4: get mad and we go talk about you motherfuckers behind 743 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: your back. Yeah, we smoke a fat one man, I'm 744 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 4: mother fuckers. Shit did that? No, I'm not doing it 745 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 4: that well. I'm doing the white white folk with white 746 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: folks report shit. They report that everybody do some shit. 747 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: Talk. 748 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 4: A little white lady, she the fuck happened. She's calling 749 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 4: everybody in the community. She's gonna talk to the alderman, 750 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 4: the mayor, the chief police. That's what I did. I 751 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 4: went directly to the police station. I went right to 752 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 4: the police station. I filed to report against that cops. 753 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 4: I called the chief of police. We said, let us, 754 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 4: the chief police, iad eternal affairs. We wrote everybody, and 755 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 4: on top of one point seven million people, being on 756 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: top wrote me a ticket for one hundred dollars. You 757 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 4: can't even see the sign in the park. We pointed out, 758 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 4: you got to go fan the sand that says no smoking. 759 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 4: One hundred dollars. They threw that ticket away and apology 760 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 4: as brother. That's what happened. And that's the power of entertainment. 761 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 4: I know, I ain't afraid when I talk to you. 762 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: It's just another presentation. You know what I'm saying. But 763 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 4: that's why I keep saying that if you're out here 764 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 4: as an artist, try to be self sufficient because you 765 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 4: don't want to be a slave to nobody. You don't 766 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 4: want to be a slave to a record label, to 767 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 4: a producer, to anybody you want to be. You want 768 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 4: to own yourself, you know. And that's what I do. 769 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: Is so when you ask the question, why is there 770 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: so many folks to how many all those top guys 771 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 4: I haven't worked with, Well, I say, once again, everybody 772 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: work with everybody. They all know each other, they drink together, 773 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 4: they hang out together. So if one of them won't 774 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 4: work with me, the other one won't. And I'm not 775 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 4: saying that I'm on a black list, but I think 776 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 4: it's a black black list out there that my name 777 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 4: is pretty high on. You know what I'm saying, because 778 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 4: it's all kind of folks of my hue who are 779 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 4: doing all kinds of things and won't even ain't never 780 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 4: brought me in. I can't audition for it or nothing. 781 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 4: But look, be clear, I'm mentioning this because we're discussing it. 782 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 4: I ain't complained about it because I don't give a damn. 783 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 4: I tell you right now, but fuck you ain't got 784 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 4: the higher my ass because God gave me Venice Beach. 785 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 4: I know I can always go to the beach and 786 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: makes some motherfucking month. I ain't gotta kiss nobody's ass 787 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 4: to ever get I'm not just anyway. I can tell 788 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 4: Joe anyway, you know. 789 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, so there, Yeah, there's so many things that 790 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: I think we can unpack here. And I know that Noel, 791 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: Matt and I or we've got I think we all 792 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: have a bunch of questions directions we're going to go 793 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: down here. So let me just give like a laundry 794 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: list one of the one of the things we're gonna 795 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: have to get back to is the war on drugs 796 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: just in the micro and a macrocosmic scale before we 797 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 1: do that, Just as an opening to that door, Michael, 798 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: I got to ask this, some of our audience always 799 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: wants to hear whenever we have a guest of your 800 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: caliber on the show. Are there any quote unquote conspiracy 801 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: theories that you believe? And if so, which ones talking? 802 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 4: Like JFK I Love Snowfall. That's a series that John 803 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 4: Singleton created FX Television, and it tells the story about 804 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 4: Ricky Ross. Now you know there's a rappers, but there 805 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 4: was a real named Freeway and he's going to do 806 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 4: my podcast Freeway Ricky Ross. Yes, and he's already said 807 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: he's doing the podcast. So he ran crack cocaine syndicate 808 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 4: all up and down the one ten Freeway in Los Angeles. 809 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 4: Why that's why they called him Freeway Ricky Ross. And 810 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 4: it's really his story, and it was who's that food? God? 811 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of his name doing Nixon era 812 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 4: had a ball head. It wasn't j Lord and Giddy. 813 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't it wasn't Lyddy, it wasn't Jay Gordon Lyddy. 814 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 4: It was somebody like him. He was c i A 815 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 4: and they ran operations to fight the contrast. So what 816 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 4: they did is cracked cocaine into our community, gave it 817 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 4: to Ricky Ross in exchange for money so that they 818 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 4: can go back and buy guns to fight the contras. 819 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 4: And he ends up going to prison for it for 820 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 4: the rest of his life. Ricky Ross and the guy 821 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 4: who set it up never did a day, not a 822 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 4: day in jail, and that's how they finally turned it 823 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 4: around and he got back out, and he tells this 824 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 4: story everywhere, and Snowfall is based on that, and I 825 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 4: absolutely know that that is the truth. You want to 826 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 4: talk about a conspiracy, you may think of it as 827 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 4: they as a theory, but it ain't no theory. The 828 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 4: government is the reason that black people all fucked up 829 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 4: with crack cocaine because we wasn't even know crack then 830 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 4: they just had blow. And he brought all that shit 831 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 4: and gave it to our community. Who would just give 832 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 4: it to the black people, let them just sell and 833 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 4: fuck themselves up, But you bring us back our portion 834 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 4: so we can get guns. 835 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: You know, CIA Air America they called it. I think 836 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: for our freedom or or something like that. It's interesting 837 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned that we were doing a live show a 838 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: while a while back. I can't remember where our talk was, 839 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: and one of the things that we pointed out, we're 840 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: talking to people about the war on drugs, which are 841 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: pal Clayton English refers to as a war on people or. 842 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 4: War for control. 843 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: One thing that really stood out was, you know, look 844 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: around areas that have been absolutely devastated by a crack 845 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: cocaine and now by fintanahl and hillbilly heroin and stuff 846 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: like that. There is not a single coca field that 847 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: they have access to. They're not growing it, they're not 848 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: making ak's out there. There's not a single poppy field 849 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: out there, you know. 850 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 4: So we don't have wear planes, we don't have access 851 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 4: to planes to bring that shit in here, none of that. 852 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 4: But now if you bring it to us and sit 853 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 4: on our doorstep and we think we could chop it up, 854 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 4: cook it up and sell it, what respect we're gonna do, 855 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 4: you know, especially if you put us in a situation 856 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 4: where we're impoverished, where society has set us up, well, 857 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: we can't get the job. We we gotta fight for stuff. 858 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 4: And here's an opportunity to make money that you couldn't 859 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 4: even imagine. You gotta take a chance. Man, got to 860 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 4: roll the dice. In some cases, you got to roll 861 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 4: the dice. But I can't wait to talk to Rick 862 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 4: Ross my show about that in detail. But yeah, yeah, 863 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 4: I think the government had a conspiracy against our society, 864 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 4: the black portion of our society, and said, fuck it, 865 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 4: get him this dope, y'all bring us back this money 866 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 4: for the guns, you know, and that you could always 867 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 4: in everything you always foulow the money. I don't get 868 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 4: fuck what do you follow the money and you'll see 869 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 4: what's with Trump followed them my fucking money. Yeah, you 870 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 4: gonna see what's going down. 871 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 3: It's so weird with government money sometimes like that, the 872 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 3: things that they refer to as black budgets that are 873 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 3: never on books anywhere. Right, So you you know that 874 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 3: the government's asked for eight hundred and fifty billion dollars, 875 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 3: but there's fifty billion of that or one hundred and 876 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 3: fifty billion of that that nobody ever knows where it 877 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 3: went to, even the people who run the country. Right, 878 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 3: the people who are in Congress have no idea, which 879 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 3: is really just really creepy when. 880 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 4: Found this list where the government had paid like seventeen 881 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 4: thousand dollars for a fucking hammer. You know. It was like, 882 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 4: what kind of accounting are they doing? Boxer screws two 883 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 4: hundred and fourteen thousand, What we're in a rock? 884 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 3: Iraq? They lost, well, how many billions of dollars? 885 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 4: Man's a palette. 886 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: It was a palette of a billion in cash and 887 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: three cash. 888 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 3: They're like, oh, we can't find it. 889 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 4: So. 890 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: Let's pause here for a word from our sponsor and 891 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: then we'll be back with more Michael Collier and we've returned. 892 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 3: So I was scrolling on Instagram the other day and 893 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 3: I saw this comedian. He had a younger comedian. He'd 894 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 3: pulled a little piece that he was doing on stage 895 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 3: and it was a whole It was a joke that 896 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 3: he set up pretty well on. The concept is blackface 897 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 3: and how's wrong. It's absolutely wrong, nobody can ever do that. 898 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 3: And then he talks about, well, what if you're in 899 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 3: Special Forces and you've got a white guy on your 900 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 3: team and you need to put a black face on him? 901 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 3: And I thought about hot shots part due there's a 902 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 3: visual joke in there that's. 903 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 4: Just if you're heard it. Yeah, that's such a funny part. 904 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 4: And we're all sitting there, everybody putting black face on 905 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 4: their makeup, put on black makeup so they can go 906 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 4: and fight in the water, putting on chemouflood. Then they 907 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 4: passed me the black and I just look at it. 908 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 4: It's giving a look, Matt. 909 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 5: That brings up a really good point. What do you 910 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 5: think things are off limits in comedy if you do 911 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 5: it right and it's funny. 912 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 4: I don't think it should be. I mean, I know 913 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 4: people are always worried about being canceled. I don't worry 914 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 4: about being canceled because I've never been on so uh 915 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 4: it was so so I don't worry about that. But 916 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 4: like people think, like people say stuff and stuff that's 917 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 4: like it's not they'll say they'll accuse you something this 918 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 4: like I've been accused of fat shaming for telling this joke, okay, 919 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 4: And I don't think it's fat shaming okay, And it 920 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 4: was the actual happenings. Fat lady was on a bike. 921 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 4: She was a fat lady woman. Say is she a 922 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 4: fat ad? What you want to call a big bone bro? 923 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. She was a fat woman. She was 924 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 4: on the bike, she was paddling her ass off, and 925 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 4: so I yelled out, cow right, She turned towards me, 926 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 4: gave me the finger, turned back around, and ran right 927 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 4: into the fucking cow. 928 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: Well, sometimes people might project their own things, you know. 929 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: I think that's tell you guys very well, right, and 930 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: sometimes people project their own things. It's true. And I 931 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: really love to know your question about the idea of 932 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: boundaries or what can or cannot be addressed. We know 933 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: that comedy is a tremendously powerful social force. It enables 934 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: us to speak directly to things that you know might 935 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: get you, might get you in some deep water in 936 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: some other countries or another contexts. What's that old saying 937 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: only only the jester can talk shit. 938 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 4: To the king. Uh. 939 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: This exploration takes us in a couple of other other directions. 940 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: The idea that now the CIA never officially admitted that 941 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 1: they created in large part, the epidemic of drug use 942 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: in the United States, And you point out that there 943 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: are people who have a lot of evidence against them 944 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: that have never gotten in trouble. Some of those people 945 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: very well are alive today. What would you say, What 946 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: observations do you have about you know, the idea that 947 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 1: there's a shadowy group at the top, right that there's 948 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: like an inner circle there. I say an illuminati. You 949 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: hear that all the time, right, like so and so 950 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: secretly runs the world. I don't think there's something. 951 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the Illuminati, but there's something. 952 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 4: You know. They're small kebles of people who have great, 953 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 4: great power that we don't even know exists. Even if 954 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 4: you just start with the with the dark Web, there's 955 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 4: so much stuff going on around our society that we 956 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 4: have no access to. And it's not just going around us. 957 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 4: It's going on and happening to us. And we don't 958 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 4: even see that kind of stuff because they're doing all 959 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,720 Speaker 4: the stuff. 960 00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 2: You know. 961 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,919 Speaker 4: And if y'all think the government runs the government, y'all 962 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 4: crazy as fuck. You know, I tell you right now, 963 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 4: the pharma has more power over this world than anybody. 964 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 4: The pharmacies. Look, seventy two percent of all commercials is 965 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 4: about a medicine. It's about some pharmaceutical shit, some shit 966 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 4: you didn't even know you need it until they told you. 967 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 3: So. 968 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 4: First they tell you they gonna create the cure, then 969 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 4: they come tell you get it. Do you have ibs 970 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 4: irritable bowel syndrome. That's itchy booty syndrome. How come we 971 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 4: can't scratch our ass. We used to just scratch our 972 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 4: ass maybe take a quick wash, but now your ass 973 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 4: can't itch un less you take this pill because it's 974 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 4: been drummed into your head or you got ibs. You 975 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 4: don't want that, you know. I mean, I'm hearing shit 976 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 4: every day that could be going on with your body 977 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 4: I never even heard of before. I mean, they just 978 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 4: make the shit. 979 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: Up, Like halatosis was invented by by mouthwashed companies. 980 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just bad brand. Then they make the shit 981 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 4: up and I List three got sixteen billion dollars they 982 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 4: made this year. Do you talk about big pharma though? 983 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, let's let us talk about another 984 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 5: community that was impacted by a shadowy group that wasn't 985 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 5: even that shadow We didn't even try that hard to 986 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 5: cover their tracks, like the opioid epidemic, you know, which 987 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 5: largely affected impoverished white communities. You know, it's another group 988 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 5: that is to some degree left behind. And I'm not 989 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 5: trying to be like, don't forget about us white people, 990 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 5: but I mean it is a thing. There are people 991 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 5: that live in certain part flyover states or whatever that 992 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 5: are treated in a very similar way to the way 993 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 5: the black community was treated as throwaway. You know, I 994 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 5: don't know. I just interested in your thoughts there. And 995 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 5: we know big Pharma did that. We know they did it. 996 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 4: You know, well, yeah, big Farma is just I mean, really, 997 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 4: I think the government scaled a big pharm. I think 998 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,439 Speaker 4: everybody scared a big farma because they got all the money. 999 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 4: Once again, follow the money. It all comes to that. 1000 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 4: We got appeel for it. We don't fix it. The 1001 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 4: real peel is life, real peel is God. The real 1002 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 4: way to fix something is to understand you're already complete 1003 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 4: and compact the way you was built. You come with 1004 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 4: all your accessories. You're already ready to go. But if 1005 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 4: we're in a society, keep teaching, teaching you you need 1006 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 4: this or you need that for you to be happy, 1007 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 4: or you have to have this to be happy. You 1008 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 4: have everything you need already to be happy, man, And 1009 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 4: the really good stuff don't cost money, you know. I'd 1010 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,959 Speaker 4: like the guy was talking to the hooker and he said, 1011 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 4: do you believe in free love? And she said, yeah, 1012 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 4: I believe in free love? And they had sex and 1013 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 4: when it's over. She said fitted dollars, and he said, 1014 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 4: fitty dollars. I thought you said you believe in free love. 1015 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 4: He said, I believe in free love. Was free the sex, 1016 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 4: That's all I'm yeah, so yeah, So it's it's a 1017 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 4: lot of stuff out there, man, I mean, I'm scared 1018 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 4: to even look like I wouldn't even look on the 1019 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 4: on the black web. If you see the kind of 1020 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 4: stuff that's happening in and around us, you'll be very frightened. 1021 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 3: Well, Michael, I want I want to ask you something. 1022 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: It's a little strange. There's been a whole bunch of 1023 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,760 Speaker 3: mainstream news, including coming from the United States Navy, about 1024 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 3: this stuff called UAP. We used to know it as UFOs. 1025 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 3: Have you Have you seen any of that news? 1026 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 4: Does that? 1027 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 3: Does that interest you at all? The concept of maybe 1028 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 3: either aliens or some kind of super sophisticated military tech. 1029 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 4: No. I First, I do believe that there's UFOs. I 1030 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: do believe that there's aliens. I do believe that there's 1031 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 4: something out there greater than us. I pray that there 1032 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 4: is something smarter than humans, Please Jesus, please, So I 1033 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 4: really think, I mean, I'm still trying to figure out 1034 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 4: although black people and I'm sorry, y'all white could y'all 1035 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 4: might want to won't agree with that. But black people, 1036 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 4: to me the greatest people in the whole wide world, 1037 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 4: and since the beginning of time they've been building shit. 1038 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 4: But I still haven't figured out how we built the pyramids. 1039 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I am sorry. I think we had help 1040 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 4: from aliens on that one, and also called them all 1041 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 4: the mathematical equations that that made the building of them 1042 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 4: is the building of the pyramids is set up to 1043 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 4: fix astrology, to align up with the stars and with 1044 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 4: the universe. I just don't know, way, way, way, way 1045 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 4: way back then that we were thinking on those levels 1046 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 4: on Earth. 1047 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, because they didn't have TV sucking 1048 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: up their attention, they didn't have like, they had much 1049 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: more focus, went much more connected the natural world. 1050 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean definitely. 1051 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: Most eerrors of history. I agree there. This is where okay, 1052 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: I think we play Maybe this is how we we 1053 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: start to end this show. We want to we want 1054 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: to save the hook. 1055 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 6: Right as you were telling us earlier in the show, 1056 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 6: how long is that you say that it's actually been 1057 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,439 Speaker 6: almost solid almost be an hour. 1058 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: If you're gonna get off. You're gonna get off the episode. 1059 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: The first thing you're gonna do talk to Malika and say, God, 1060 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: those guys just don't shut up. 1061 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 4: So much. 1062 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 5: And well, it's that's what you'r We like. We like 1063 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 5: asking you questions, we like getting your perspective. All the 1064 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 5: stuff is that we think about every day, and it's 1065 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 5: really cool to have people involved in the conversation that 1066 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 5: are don't have some acts to grind, don't have some 1067 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 5: agenda you with just. 1068 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 4: People that have feelings and like your observation and observation. 1069 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 4: So that's what interests us. 1070 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I have a quick list. You want to 1071 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 3: end it. 1072 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 4: You wanted to. 1073 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: Conspiracy Well I wanted to do conspiracy quiz. 1074 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 4: Okay, like we did. 1075 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we I think we missed it with aliens, 1076 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: but we've got to got to take there. So the 1077 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 1: way we play this game, Michael, is we will just 1078 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: like kind of rapid fire, We'll ask you just a 1079 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 1: bare bones, a basic couple of conspiracy theories, and you 1080 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: let us know whether you buy them all the way, 1081 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: whether you think it's you know, absolute hogwash, or something 1082 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 1: might be true about it. So let's start with one 1083 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: of the famous ones. Staying on aliens, staying on extraterrestrials. 1084 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: Do you think the US government or any other world 1085 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: government actually found a piece of like a spaceship. 1086 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 4: And we got them. We got them here. Definitely, I 1087 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 4: guarantee you that they got them the area fifty one. 1088 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 4: That shit is real. And I'm gonna tell you. Out 1089 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 4: here in California, I see mountains that I swear to 1090 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 4: this activity in those mountains when I come down to 1091 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 4: fourteenth because I'm right off the fourteen Freeway, which is 1092 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 4: the Palmdale near Lancaster, so the worst name is near us. 1093 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 4: The stealth Bomber is like maybe four miles from my house, 1094 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 4: and sometimes you can hear what sounds like the earth 1095 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 4: is moving. You just hear, you know what the hell 1096 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 4: it is, and it'll just be dark and go past. 1097 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,959 Speaker 4: I mean, so I think that they got a bunch 1098 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 4: of stuff in the mountains here. I think they have 1099 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 4: underground stuff. And I definitely think that aliens have been 1100 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 4: here and got trapped here. I mean, I don't think 1101 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 4: any aliens came here and lived except the ones that 1102 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 4: are living and playing like the humans. But I don't 1103 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 4: I think that we have had alien activity here. I 1104 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 4: think alien vehicle parts are some way here to be found. Yes, absolutely, Michael. 1105 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 4: Did you see the film? Nope? 1106 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 5: No, no, ohat watching Nope. It's a it's a real 1107 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 5: good description of kind of what you're described. It's a 1108 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 5: good like dramatization in a really wonderfully paced did you know, 1109 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 5: funny yet intense science fiction film you know from Jordan 1110 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 5: Peele and it's it's absolutely phenomenal and it's all about 1111 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 5: like what's going on above ground, like in the clouds 1112 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 5: or in the mountains, you know, and like what does 1113 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 5: that feel? 1114 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 4: I think you'd get a kick because you said all 1115 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 4: of that. I'm gonna watch it now. I hadn't had 1116 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 4: a chance to see it, but I'm gonna take time 1117 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 4: to watch very interesting film. 1118 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 1: Let's go to uh, let's go to another one. Let's 1119 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: see like one or two more conspiracy criz with Michael 1120 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: Collier running ship. 1121 00:52:59,000 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 4: I thought we did. 1122 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 3: I've got one for you. Have you ever heard anyone 1123 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 3: talking about fluoride in the water. 1124 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 4: I'm not sure no, except for okay, I know chlorine 1125 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 4: in the water, but I don't know about fluoride the water. 1126 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 4: What's that? 1127 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, there's so there is fluoride in most of 1128 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 3: America's public drinking water sources. And it goes back a 1129 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 3: long time ago when it was decided that there needs 1130 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 3: to be something a couple of different chemicals in the 1131 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 3: water to clean it just a little bit as it 1132 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 3: goes through the you know, the processing plants right the waste. 1133 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 4: But they didn't have a flint Michigan all right now. 1134 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 5: But but Matt, isn't the idea also that it's like 1135 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 5: it's good for your teeth. But it's also something that 1136 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 5: some people have issues with, like is it or is 1137 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 5: it something else? 1138 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 4: Is it. 1139 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: Calcifying glass? 1140 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 3: The the scientific theory behind it and the reasoning behind 1141 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 3: it is that consuming fluoride does strengthen teeth, but strengthened 1142 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 3: that teeth strengthening is when fluorides apply directly to your teeth. 1143 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 3: And how often are you just swishing water around all 1144 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 3: the time except for if you're washing your mouth out right. 1145 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 3: The concept is if you ingest enough of that fluoride, 1146 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 3: it potentially has some subduing of the mind effects because 1147 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 3: it was used in it was used by several groups, 1148 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 3: including the Nazis, to subdue people in the past. 1149 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 4: I mean that's true but are you supposed to ingest it? Though? 1150 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 4: Are you supposed to drink it? Well? I mean they 1151 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 4: say it's fine, you know, I mean, you know, that's 1152 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 4: like toothpaste. If you brush the teeth of two paste, 1153 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 4: you're not supposed to because you know what's in it 1154 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 4: and spit it out. 1155 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 5: But but man, man, wouldn't wouldn't the government say that 1156 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 5: the amount that's in the water supply, which is acknowledged, 1157 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 5: is safe to consume. 1158 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you'd have to be consistently drinking water 1159 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 3: and peeing it out all day long. 1160 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I know, I know it's bullshit. If they 1161 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 4: said it, they've had It's okay. 1162 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of We're seeing a lot of 1163 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: I think we're speaking a lot of the same languages here. 1164 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: The idea of self reliance, it's very important to us. Uh, 1165 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: the concept of yeah, we maybe we shouldn't automatically trust 1166 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: people in power. Right, Uh, let's see another. Okay, corrupts and. 1167 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 4: Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But I just think that we 1168 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,919 Speaker 4: as a people, uh, we fought everybody black and white. 1169 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 4: Even though we still fight each other as black and white. 1170 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 4: The bold of us will hear both black and white 1171 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 4: fault to have the kind of country where people do 1172 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 4: have decency, where there is an order, there's a hierarchy, 1173 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 4: and there's an understanding of the direction we're going, and 1174 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 4: we will all work towards that. That is the understanding. 1175 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 4: This guy came into a system that's called politics and said, well, 1176 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 4: let's get rid of the politicians. It's like the lifeguard 1177 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 4: going down and saying, hey, who's gonna weak. Well, let's 1178 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 4: get rid of everybody who can swim, all the people 1179 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 4: that swim with me. Let's get some non swimmings. It's 1180 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 4: god damn pool. You expect people to swim as politics. 1181 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 4: You expect people to be political in the world of politics. 1182 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 4: And so what we got is someone who's the opposite 1183 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 4: of politics. And you think, can anything be worse than politics? Yes, 1184 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 4: the opposite of it, which is called Trump. In fact, 1185 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 4: you see right here, I got me some Trump politician. 1186 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 6: Uh. 1187 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 4: I can tell you there is nothing more joyful than 1188 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 4: wiping your as with a helpless sheets. That is Trump issue. 1189 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: However, I want to say something though I want to, 1190 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 1: I want to say something is defense. Uh. He has 1191 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 1: been an amazing statesman and a great politician for Russia. 1192 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 4: He's got their best interest. 1193 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 5: But I would argue, though you say, you know, the 1194 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,919 Speaker 5: opposite of politics was worse than it's Trump, I would argue, 1195 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 5: the opposite of politics is complete chaos, uh and no organization. 1196 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 5: So it's like we you know, they always say that 1197 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 5: what is a democracy is the worst system of government 1198 00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 5: except for. 1199 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 4: All the other ones. 1200 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 5: You know, we're all doing our best to buie byass 1201 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 5: systemwhere we can exist and not murder each other. It's 1202 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 5: not working supermand other countries. But we we can't though, 1203 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 5: not just based on decorum, not. 1204 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 4: Just back goddamn it. That's a different show. 1205 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: Okay, forty acres, get get forty acres out in San Francisco, 1206 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, don't let them stick you with we get 1207 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: to pick out in North Dakota. 1208 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 4: Well you your doctor, doctor Field just came out and 1209 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 4: see it. If they took twelve trillion dollars, they could 1210 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 4: pay off all the black descendants of slaves like three 1211 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand dollars each. But they need to 1212 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 4: turn it right back around and see it. But you 1213 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 4: ain't get that kind of money to black people unless 1214 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 4: you show the loose money. And doctor killed me fuckerr yeah, 1215 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 4: it's not right now. He said, we first need to 1216 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 4: have to train them how. We need to train them 1217 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 4: how to properly use money. Otherwise, and these are his words, 1218 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 4: it would be disastrous. So you saying you can't give 1219 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 4: me the money you owe me unless I use it 1220 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 4: the way you think is a proper way to use it. 1221 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 4: If I take that ship and bury it in the backyard, 1222 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 4: it's my shit. You should just give me what's man, 1223 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 4: and don't say I can only have it under a 1224 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 4: certain condition. Reparations mean repairing something that you understand you 1225 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 4: have broken, and the breaker is supposed to fix it. 1226 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 4: And they fixed that with the American Indian They gave 1227 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 4: them off man casino them was a rolling. They did 1228 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 4: it with the Japanese in the tournament camps. They gave 1229 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 4: white folks money to make up for the slaves they 1230 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 4: lost when they had to release the slaves. And nobody 1231 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 4: asks any of those people what they're gonna do when 1232 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 4: they get the money. They just say, here your stuff, 1233 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 4: gonna have a good day. So doctor phild kissed my 1234 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 4: butttop the darkest recesses. Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead. 1235 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 3: See I wish I was taught how to handle money, 1236 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 3: because when I started my first job and knew how 1237 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 3: to do things, I had no idea what to do 1238 00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 3: with money. 1239 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 4: I know idea. 1240 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 3: I feel like that's a thing that just comes with time, 1241 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 3: or you've got some kind of teacher that has money 1242 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 3: that shows you how it works. I'm just saying, like 1243 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 3: I wish our public schools would. 1244 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 4: The public how do's he's in the school. 1245 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: It's a design. The public school system is designed to 1246 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 1: create temperate factory workers. That's why. That's how it came. 1247 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: That's whether there's not financial literacy classes right the closest. 1248 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people got with something like as. 1249 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 4: They took that away. 1250 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 3: Now, I don't know, can we hand with one conspiracy 1251 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 3: I had? 1252 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 1: I had one too, but we'll just have mister call 1253 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: your back. 1254 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 5: Can I just quickly just add to sex ed was 1255 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 5: controversial because they don't want people to have safe sex. 1256 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 5: They want them to have too many goddamn kids so 1257 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 5: that they're poor forever. 1258 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 4: So they didn't want to talk about it at all. 1259 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 4: Or it's a controversy, the go ahead, you both had one, 1260 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 4: we could squeeze the me and come on, Matt, what's 1261 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 4: your theory? 1262 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, my conspiracy is okay, it's the year. I 1263 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 3: think it's probably nineteen ninety nine when you found out. 1264 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 3: I have a feeling it wasn't two thousand. But when 1265 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 3: you found out that there was a thing called the 1266 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 3: Original Kings of Comedy Tour happening and you weren't a 1267 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 3: part of it, where were you and how did you 1268 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 3: find out? 1269 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 4: First of all, I don't understand how they had a 1270 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 4: show called the Kings of Comedy without the King. Let's 1271 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,919 Speaker 4: just start with that. I was right there at the time, 1272 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 4: but I wasn't invited. You know, it was Steve's idea. 1273 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 4: And the truth of the matter is he did invite 1274 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 4: me at one point and then two weeks later I 1275 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 4: tried to reach him. I never heard from him again. 1276 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 4: But it was right around the time that he had 1277 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 4: lost his first manager who we all loved, named Juan Hall, 1278 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 4: and Wan Hall had died, so I guess the new 1279 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 4: team came in and helped him change his man. I 1280 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 4: was almost on that, but no, it didn't happen. Just 1281 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,919 Speaker 4: a lot of the things like that, I haven't Shaq 1282 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 4: went out and did the Shack Comedy Tools. I wrote 1283 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 4: Shack sh I he had thirty seven comedians. I say, 1284 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 4: it ain't thirty seven motherfuckers on this planet that's funny 1285 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 4: than me. It might be thirty two, thirty three, but 1286 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 4: thirty seven one of a nigga got to do to 1287 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 4: get on Shacks comedy things. So I don't know, and 1288 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 4: when you would ask me? So, when did Shack become 1289 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 4: the arbiter for what's funny? Just putting that out there. 1290 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 4: He's so funny, goofy. Let me tell you something. He 1291 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 4: is doing commercials for everything. He lost me last week though, 1292 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 4: when he did that commercial for Tampacs, I said, I 1293 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 4: am done Shack for tam PACs. I'm like, now, watch out. 1294 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Shock. Shack's a big deal here at our fair Metropolis 1295 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: of Atlanta. Man, he runs the Krispy Krees. 1296 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 4: That's I'm a Shack fan. No, don't get it. I'm 1297 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 4: a Shack fan. 1298 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: We all walked it back, Yeah, walked it back. But 1299 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: so okay, here's uh, you know, I almost want to 1300 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: save this one. We'll see if it works. But the last, 1301 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: that's one I wanted to ask that we It's kind 1302 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 1: of something we talk about a lot and a lot 1303 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 1: of people privately believe in something like this wanted to 1304 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: ask you, between just you millions of listeners in the 1305 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 1: n Essay and us, do you believe in psychic powers? 1306 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely absolutely. I know people who are brilliant at 1307 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 4: it as well. No. Absolutely, I'm in that whole thing. 1308 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 4: That's my thing right there. I'm with all of that, 1309 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 4: everything that deals with the spiritual, with the energy of 1310 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 4: connecting on a spiritual plane, on astro travel, all that can. 1311 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 4: I absolutely believe in it. And I've done mushrooms, so 1312 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 4: I have traveled, you know. I mean, if you understand 1313 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 4: what what hallucinogenic mushrooms are about, you know, I have 1314 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 4: taken a hero's dose. You know that is a hero does, 1315 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,439 Speaker 4: is like ten or more grams. I have taken enough 1316 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 4: where I could literally fold space. There's a movie called Dune. 1317 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 4: You're not that new original one from the real Herbert 1318 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,479 Speaker 4: from the real book. And in Dune they're all looking 1319 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 4: for the spice, the spice milange. It gives you the 1320 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,440 Speaker 4: ability to fold space, to go anywhere in the universe 1321 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 4: without moving. That's what mushrooms are. And man, I've sat 1322 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 4: down and had conversations with my father who died when 1323 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 4: I was twelve, and I've sat and had conversation with 1324 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 4: him like he was here right now. So I believe 1325 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 4: in all that type of stuff. Oh, absolutely, that stuff 1326 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 4: is very very real. Do you think it can be taught? No, 1327 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 4: I don't think. I think that's something you have or 1328 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 4: you don't have. I don't think that could be taught. 1329 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 4: You know, I have a great teacher of spirituality named Starius. 1330 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 4: A Starius miraculously pull him up a starist, miracularize a 1331 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 4: bad boy, and he could read his reading ninety eight 1332 01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 4: percent accurate. He does dideri, due wielding, he does energy old, 1333 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 4: he does a thing called what's that thing that everybody 1334 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 4: else is doing? Right reichy Ome. He does all of 1335 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 4: those modalities, and he's king at that stuff. And I 1336 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 4: absolutely believe, absolutely believe the stuff he's saying. And a 1337 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 4: lot of it is he helped my life, you know. 1338 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, this is something where we're at the point 1339 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: where I know we've opened several doors, not just the 1340 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: doors of perception, but the doors the future. Conversation. Mister Collya, 1341 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the time has flown by What if time is more 1342 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: than a construct? Maybe we'll maybe we'll be on mushrooms 1343 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: next time we record. We've got to ask. Yeah, we 1344 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: got to ask people, where's no shooting the thumbs up? 1345 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 1: We gotta woo woo woo. Uh So, where can folks 1346 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: learn more about your work? Where can they listen to 1347 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 1: Michael talks to everybody? Where can they follow you online? 1348 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 4: Thank you for asking that very important, impertinent question. Okay, 1349 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 4: y'all can fad me anyway? First of all, I do 1350 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 4: the most amazing show in the whole world for me 1351 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 4: right now, which is now Michael talks the air Body. 1352 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 4: Because I'm doing that and it's not everybody, it's air 1353 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 4: e r r bo d y Airbody. My first guest 1354 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 4: was T. S. Madison. She had a show on WE 1355 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 4: Network and she's just just a brilliant Uh. We have raw, 1356 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 4: real people on my show. We had Earthquake come turn 1357 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 4: it out. We had t I. I got to tease 1358 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 4: him about him getting booed off stage, but he turned 1359 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 4: that around. He was doing comedy, he got booed. Now 1360 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 4: he figured it out and he's selling out places doing comedy. 1361 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 4: Booing what nothing compared to JB. Smooth. Oh my god, 1362 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 4: I love JB. Smooth. But they booed him so hard 1363 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 4: in Atlanta. I could hear the shit in the plane 1364 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 4: I was flying over here, boo, So why are they 1365 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 4: doing JB Smooth? We love Joey Smooth. I love, but 1366 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 4: sometimes you have to have the right material for the 1367 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 4: right audience. The incorrect presentation can throw you off. And 1368 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 4: I think in his case, he was in the wrong 1369 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 4: place in the line of comedians because when you go up, 1370 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,959 Speaker 4: you're good, then better, then better, then better then better, 1371 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 4: So it has the role. And I think he went 1372 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 4: behind somebody else who's high energy. I think he followed 1373 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 4: somebody like Oh, I think he followed who the guy 1374 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 4: has his own show, Ricky Smiley, Ricky Smiley, because Ricky 1375 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 4: Smiley was killed on Artistle Screaming. And then I think 1376 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 4: jab just came out with some laid back, smooth comedy. 1377 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 4: They wasn't ready for it, you know. So so on 1378 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 4: the show we've had, I think the smartest black man 1379 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 4: I've talked to so far, who is Heil Harper. I 1380 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 4: don't even know how he get that big brain in 1381 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 4: that little bit of head. We did a show called 1382 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 4: It's Church Relevant, but I did it with three of 1383 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 4: my heathen friends, so I felt like that wasn't quite Kosha. 1384 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 4: So we went back and did part two and we 1385 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 4: brought in Yolanda Adams and Bisp vans Old, so we 1386 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 4: have people from the church that represent So we talked 1387 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 4: to everybody about everything. It's off the chain and all 1388 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 4: you can do is go to iHeart or wherever you 1389 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 4: get your podcasts and put in. Michael talked to everybody. 1390 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 4: That's one way to follow me. I have a morning 1391 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 4: show five days a week on YouTube, Michael Kaya Morning Show. 1392 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 4: I have I'm on Toby. I got two films on Tooby. 1393 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 4: I got two films. Are just putting the can oh Man. 1394 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 4: I just shot a movie where I played Jackade's husband 1395 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 4: to Sheena Arnold's daddy. Uh. Tommy Davison is the minister 1396 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 4: and the lady who played Cedric's girlfriend on Steve Harvey's show. 1397 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 4: Terry J. Vinn directed it. It's called Soul Flat Christmas 1398 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 4: and when I tell you it is amazing, you know. Plus, 1399 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 4: my comedy album is out everybody. It's on all streaming services. 1400 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 4: It's a picture of me sitting on a toilet. It's 1401 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 4: called let Me Drop this on you, Yeah, on you, 1402 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 4: And and then I'm dropping two books and this last thing. 1403 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 4: I got two books. I have a children's book called 1404 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 4: Little Bobby White, which is by a little black boy 1405 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 4: who always wins because he always chooses to do the 1406 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 4: right thing. You know. So we're supposed to get to 1407 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 4: a point in our lives where we can't choose between 1408 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 4: right and wrong if we know right and wrong. No, 1409 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 4: that's the children's book, so that the children book children 1410 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 4: about right, you know. The erotic book is called in 1411 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,480 Speaker 4: the Wet Spot Blewe a Rod Cup by mc butternuts 1412 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 4: and it's gonna kill. It's an audiobook. Already did it 1413 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 4: on a breakfast club. I did one point from it. 1414 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 4: People went crazy. I did it on eighty five South. 1415 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 4: People went crazy. So that's coming out like about two months. 1416 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 4: And I'm hirable. Yes, the voices pass over, hangover. I 1417 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 4: do a party of the phone booth if you promise 1418 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 4: to call, I take green Steff food, step Connective money. 1419 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 4: I take your bus transfer if it's got some time 1420 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,679 Speaker 4: left on it. I don't know what you'all talking about. 1421 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 4: Were doing it around here, So. 1422 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 3: Michael, thank you so much for being This was a 1423 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 3: delight and thank you. 1424 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 4: Oh he got bailed. Oh come on, somebody, that's fuel 1425 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,559 Speaker 4: that sounds I hear it in mane. Let me tell you, 1426 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 4: I'd be having these chicken and now I'd be on 1427 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 4: stage with them and people want the chicken. I had 1428 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 4: the little one merchandising got them to me. He in 1429 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 4: the audience, he said, I'll give you twenty dollars for 1430 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 4: that chicken. I said, well, give me the money. So 1431 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 4: he walked up the stage. He said, wait a minute, baby, 1432 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 4: give me some more money. We're gonna give him thirty. 1433 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 4: She said, dadd they give him fouty. So they gave 1434 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 4: me forty for the chicken, and he turned around, walked 1435 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 4: back to the table, and I went up to the microphone. 1436 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 4: I said, I paid four dollars and eighty six cents 1437 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 4: for that chicken, and it was just great. Your chicken 1438 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 4: is very popular. Y'all will be hearing about the chicken 1439 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 4: all over the world, you know. 1440 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 5: So there's a TikToker, a YouTube video where someone took 1441 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 5: like fifty of those and squeezed them all at the 1442 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,560 Speaker 5: same time that it sounds will haunt your nightmare, I 1443 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 5: tell you. 1444 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 4: At the same. 1445 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 1: Time, somebody made one that plays music too. They got 1446 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 1: chickens with different pitches and rolled over them. 1447 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 4: Well, the internet is wild. Some sucker tried to trick 1448 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 4: me and gave me a dunk. 1449 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Customer. Well, folks again, as you said, Matt, mister, call you. 1450 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being so generous with your time. Today. 1451 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 1: The show is Michael talks to everybody. Full disclosure. I've 1452 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:15,719 Speaker 1: been on there once. 1453 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 4: Uh. 1454 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: I'd love to. 1455 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, all three of y'alls to come 1456 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,560 Speaker 4: on the one together and let's just have fun to 1457 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 4: chop it up. I would love that so much. You know, 1458 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 4: we thank you for the invitation. We love to I know, 1459 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 4: I am honest, I've been here. This was so much fun. God, 1460 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 4: bless y'all, real good man, thank you, thank you, thank you, 1461 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,559 Speaker 4: love everybody. Her name is Sonia and she soon will 1462 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 4: be Sonia. We get engaged. God, bless y'all, thank you 1463 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 4: so much. Having we want to come hang with you 1464 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 4: in Venice Beach. You see shoot this special this summer. 1465 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 4: It's gonna blow your man, and I'm giving them money 1466 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 4: to the homeless. It's gonna be that's beautiful. 1467 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:57,719 Speaker 1: Watch We'll come through. 1468 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate you me any time. By now. 1469 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 1: What a ride we could have done. We could have 1470 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,719 Speaker 1: done that for easily a couple more hours. 1471 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,600 Speaker 5: Right, It's like riding on a jet ski, on a surfboard, 1472 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 5: on a raging bull of some I mean it was 1473 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,760 Speaker 5: just all the kinds of rides like like packed into one. 1474 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,679 Speaker 5: What a delight, What a cool human with a wealth 1475 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 5: of experience and interesting perspective. 1476 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 4: Man, that was awesome. 1477 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 3: It's almost like Michael spent years and years and years 1478 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 3: performing every day for giant audiences somewhere. 1479 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 4: You can't fake that kind of timing, man, you just 1480 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 4: can't do it. That was. 1481 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:41,920 Speaker 1: Mister c Is is indeed a very genuine person, great guy, 1482 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 1: and we're not We're not blowing smoke, folks. When we 1483 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 1: have people on our show, we're respectful your time as well. 1484 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,559 Speaker 1: So we only really have people on if we think 1485 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:57,479 Speaker 1: it's going to be a worthwhile conversation exploration. Do check 1486 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 1: him out. Everything that said is this is where we 1487 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 1: also learned Matt as a huge art hotshots part du fan. 1488 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 3: Sorry about that look that it was. It meant a 1489 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,080 Speaker 3: lot to me in my life. I guess around the time. 1490 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 3: I was only ten when it came out, so I 1491 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 3: don't think I saw it like immediately. I must have 1492 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,720 Speaker 3: been a little older when I finally found it. 1493 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 5: But uh wow, I think I remember renting it from 1494 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,600 Speaker 5: the video store. I do remember it coming out in 1495 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 5: theaters because speaking of chickens, doesn't isn't he like like 1496 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 5: shooting a chicken out of his bow and arrow and 1497 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 5: it's like on fire and it's obviously Charlie. I meant 1498 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 5: to follow up, like, did Charlie Sheen just discover him 1499 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 5: on Venice Beach and that's how he got the gig. 1500 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 5: I wanted to hear that story, but we went so 1501 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 5: many places we could have gone. Oh the places you'll 1502 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,560 Speaker 5: go when you talk to Michael Collier. 1503 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,479 Speaker 1: That was awesome and who knew he was a fellow 1504 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:51,599 Speaker 1: psychonaut yea. We want to hear some of your thoughts 1505 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 1: regarding this. No, I think we're fans of playing the 1506 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,719 Speaker 1: conspiracy Quiz game. 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