1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: dot Com, part of the Giants Podcast. Welcome to another 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast, brought to you by 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: p S C and G Energy Efficiency For game time 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: and anytime, visit p S e G dot com slash 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Giants for discounts, rebates and home energy assessments. Hello everybody, 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: my name is John Schmilk. Hope you had a great holiday. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: I hope you're gonna have a happy new year. A 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: very big giant Subtle podcast coming your way today. Man 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: of the Year nominee Pro Bowl selection say Kwon Barkley 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: will join me and we have a nice fun sit 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: down Bob Pop of course at Brian Dable, and then 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: we have Mike Chappelle who covers the Colts for Fox 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: fifty nine CBS four. We'll be joining us to talk 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: about this upcoming game and give you a preview of 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the Colts in this win. And you're in game for 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants. But before we get to 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: see Kwon, folks, just go back make sure you listen 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: to the Trent Green podcast right here on the Giants 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: Huddle and went up late Thursday, so you might have 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: missed it since this podcast went up on Friday. Really 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: a fun conversation form NFL quarterback Trent Greene. He's doing 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: the game on CBS this Sunday. A really good listen 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: talk to him about not just the game, but it 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: really went into Daniel Jones a lot as a former 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. Get some good insight on Daniel, 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: and we dig a little broader look at the playoffs 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: because the Giants maybe they're in the playoffs after this week. 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: They will be if they beat the Indianapolis Colts. Also 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Draft Season, our draft podcast. We're getting towards the end 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: of the season here. Bowl games are coming, combines coming, 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Shrine game coming. We talked about all that 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: we preview the bowls. We talk about some of the 34 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: underclassmen that are declaring for the NFL Draft. Tony Pauline, 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Eric Crocker and I getting ready for that offseason as 36 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: Giant fans start to think about what's gonna happen in 37 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: April if the NFL draft, as the Giants trying to 38 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: improve this roster heading into next season. So make sure 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: you go subscribe again to the Draft Season podcast on 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platform, or just go to the Giants 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Apple gihants dot com slash podcast. We could also find 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: all of our podcast offerings including Big Blue Kickoff Live, 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: our daily show live on giants dot com, and the 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Giants App at twelve thirty. All right, let's get to 45 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: it my conversation and sit down with the Giants offensive 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: m v P at least, in my opinion, Man of 47 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: the Year nominee and Pro Bowl selected running back Sae 48 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley sick when I'm gonna store with the hard 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: hitting questions, how is Christmas? Christmas was fun? Obviously would 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: have been a little better if it came home, would 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: have win. But at the end of the day, um, 52 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: you know, to be able to spend Christmas with your family, 53 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: had how bunch of family members come up. Um and 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: just you know, spend time with my kids, spend time 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: with my family. Uh, that's the things that you know 56 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: are the most important. So um, definitely bless them. What 57 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: was the big Christmas gift for the kids this year? Uh? 58 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: You know, we got Jade a lot of gifts, but 59 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: her favorite gift was toy snakes. She she she went 60 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: crazy about that and in a in a princess dress. 61 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, you know as it shows you that, 62 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: like you know, kids just are just happy. Just it's 63 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: all this stuff that we're able to get. Obviously, you 64 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: know we're blessing and we're fortunate enough. But um, you 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: know the thing she was I love the most was 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: choice snakes and uh just put a smile on all 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: our faces. Yeah, we did the same thing we have. 68 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: I have a five year old and we got her 69 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: like it was like a twelve dollar Rapunzo costume at Target. 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: She wore the thing all day. I think use the 71 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: jaws of life to get her at it. It was 72 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: it was like the best day of her life. And 73 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: it's just you watch that. It just kind of makes 74 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: everything else better, you know what I mean. All Right, 75 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: let's get to it here. You know you talked about 76 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, being fortunate enough to be able to have 77 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: a great Christmas with your kids. Let's talk about your 78 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Man of the Year nomination first. Then uh talk about 79 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: the work you do with the coving In House and 80 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: why you chose that charity and grouping why it's so 81 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: important to you. KND just started off with you know, 82 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: my mom and dad having a conversation from him when 83 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: I first got drafted and trying to see something we 84 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: can do, UM have a change to making impact in 85 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: our community and party with Covering the House, and UM, 86 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: I never really came to a conclusion this until the 87 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: other day when uh the coving of the house. I 88 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: burn Covering House kids. Uh to the games and you know, 89 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: give them home tickets and after every game where they 90 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: win lost raw, Uh sit down with them and you know, 91 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: special quality time with them. And they always ask me questions. 92 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: And they asked me the same question, why why coming 93 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: the house? And I was giving them my answer and 94 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: my mom got to cut it off, cutting me off, 95 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: and it was like saying that, I mean we we 96 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: were homeless before, We've been in a situation before. UM, 97 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: so we we know where they feel like. And UH, 98 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: That's really the big thing for me is I'm very blessed. 99 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: I accomplish a lot so far in my career and 100 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: within my dreams, and UM, I feel like God blessed me, 101 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: and I want to use that blessing and try to, um, 102 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, have an impact on other people's lives. And uh, 103 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: working with Covering House or working with my foundation, UM, 104 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, just so many things we've done throughout the years. 105 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: A gold mine was to be uh, you know, a 106 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: nominee and when uh the Walton Payman in a year, UM, 107 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's truly honored to to be 108 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: a nominee and alongside the other thirty one athletes, UM 109 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: who are doing your medicine is in the community, and 110 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: like I said, everyone knows down competitor. I would love 111 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: to win this a war, but a war like this 112 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: just being nominated and not winning, uh, just only good 113 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: comes out of it, because, like I said, thirty one 114 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: of the guys doing some really extremely good things for 115 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: the community. And that's really all I was. Just want 116 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: to have impact in my community. I want to leave 117 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: a legacy, um, not just on a football field office. 118 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, what is it that you try to 119 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: get across to the different groups of kids that you 120 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: bring to each games. I know you take a lot 121 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: of time when you've done the locker room, either after 122 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: your press conference before to talk to them. You want 123 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: to go home, you're tired, but you take time to 124 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: talk to different groups of kids at each game. What 125 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: do you try to talk to about and and try 126 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: to get across to him? I kind of just listen 127 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: first listen. I try to listen to their stories. Um, 128 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, see what they want to do, see what 129 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: they want to accomplish. And when they asked me questions, 130 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: just answered honest and to the best of my capability. 131 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: That that's really I feel like that's that's the best 132 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: you can do. UM. And the answers that I try 133 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: to give them is through my life's experience, through the 134 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: things that I went through to help help me get 135 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: to this point. And the more the main message is 136 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: always going to be the same. It's never gonna change. 137 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Is you know, whatever you want to do. You wanna 138 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: be a chef, and you know, they want to start 139 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: your own podcast, you want to be a football player, 140 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: you want to be the president of the United States. 141 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: You can do what any thank you want. UM, all 142 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: you gotta do is have the right mindset, UM, surround 143 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: yourself with the right people and and believe and if 144 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: you continue to have that and work for it, all 145 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: those things are are able to be accomplished. And that's 146 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: something that was instilled in me as a kid and 147 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: something I'm instilling to my kids, and UM, you know, 148 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: I try to hopefully instill that to the young people 149 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: that I talked to the best luck. Hopefully you've come 150 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: out with the win this year and then you bring 151 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: it home. Let's talk some football. One other great accomplishment 152 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: you've got in December, you were elected to the Pro Bowl. 153 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: When you think back to all the hard work you 154 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: put in the last three years, dealing with different injuries 155 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: each year and fighting back and getting back to where 156 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: you are this year, do you look back and do 157 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: you just kind of sit back and say, wow, you 158 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: know what. I know, it's not about making the Pro Bowl, 159 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: and that's not the ultimate goal, but is it at 160 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: least something you say to yourself that yeah, I'm back 161 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: and this feels pretty good that I'm being recognized for 162 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: once again being at the top of my position group. 163 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean for me, a goal wasn't to 164 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: make like to make the Pro Bowl. Um. To be honest, 165 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: funny story, when I play, I made a Probow my 166 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: rookie year, and you kind of take it for granted. Uh, 167 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: you kind of think this is gonna be every every year. Thing. 168 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: You know, Uh, go out, ball out, do what you do, 169 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully make it a suitable off, not have 170 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: some have some fun at the Pro Bowl. Uh well, 171 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: after my first year. I haven't made it three or 172 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: four years since. Uh So to be able to accomplished 173 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: that and shows like, you know, the respect that you're 174 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: getting again and you know, the recognition that you're getting again. 175 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: And for me, I know, going the last couple of 176 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: years battling through injuries, a lot of people kind of 177 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: wrote me off and kind of caught me out. But 178 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the only thing that 179 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: matters was the belief to myself and the belief in 180 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: the people that I care about that they had in 181 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: me um and helped me to this point. And that's 182 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: that's really what All the stuff that I would be 183 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: able to accomplish so far this season and with the 184 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and hopefully you know, leading us to the 185 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: playoffs and beyond um, all that I gotta give thanks 186 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: to so many people, family, friends, trainers, physical therapists. There's 187 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: so many people. Um Dr lu did my knee. There's 188 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: so many people that helped me get to this, get 189 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: back to this point. It's not you don't just do 190 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: it by yourself. So um, I'm just happy for for 191 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: them to to be able to say thank you to 192 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: them and show my gratitude to them during you know, 193 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: the times that they pushed me in through through the 194 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: hard work to to be able to get back to 195 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: the level that I know that I'm capable of, and 196 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: uh even still and I know there's another level I 197 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: can take it to. So try to finish this season 198 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: off strong and go back watch film and getting all 199 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: season and train and try to take it to another 200 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 1: level for the next season. And it certainly seems like 201 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: the last two games you are closing the season pretty 202 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: strong here over eight yards over four yards per carry, 203 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: first time for both and back to back games since 204 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: the Texans game right after the buy Right, why do 205 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: you think the running game has clicked a little bit 206 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: better the last couple of weeks. You know, we're find 207 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: our identity again. I think that's like the everyone kind 208 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: of failed to realize. It's like football, National Football League, 209 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: Like people are going to adjust, people are gonna adjust. Uh, 210 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, we we had identity, we had a scheme, 211 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: we had something that was working. Um and teams found 212 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: ways to you know, to stop that and they're trying 213 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: to by the way, That's what I'm saying, right, and 214 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: so now kind of you kind of got to go 215 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: back to the drawing board. But I mean, you're not 216 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: reinventing the will. Uh you go back and in the 217 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks we found a scheme in the 218 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: system that kind of been working and women trusting it too. 219 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: So the reason why it's getting back is because, you know, 220 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: guy with credit to the coaches first and then also 221 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: to the guys up front, how they've been blocking in 222 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: and um me trusting them and seeing the whole and 223 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: hitting up. Yeah, it's funny. You actually kind of answered 224 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: my follow up. I was gonna say, when you got 225 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: pasted the buy and you saw that teams are starting 226 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: to make that adjustment back to you, right, you know, 227 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: you know this the running game is so much about 228 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: numbers and angles, Right, they can put guys enough guys 229 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: in there and in the right spots, that's gonna make 230 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: it hard to run. You could do whatever you want, 231 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough, right. So what was the process 232 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: like trying to figure out the counter to the looks 233 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: of those teams were giving you that really made it 234 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: hard on you on the offensive lying to keep that 235 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: running game consistent. Well, I kind of just had to 236 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: go back and just have a conversation with myself. Uh. 237 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: You know, the running game starts with me, ends with me, obviously, 238 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: starts with the guys in front to UM. And that's 239 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: kind of how you counter. You see what the guys 240 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: are seeing up front and feeling, you know, going off 241 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: of them, making the reads, making the cuts on them, 242 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: and then I kind of go back and watch film 243 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: and see what I could have done better. And at 244 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I felt like, you know, 245 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: I was dying easy. I guess you could say it 246 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: was a word um, not saying I was going down easy. 247 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: I was, you know, going through my reads. It wasn't 248 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: like I was really missing a lot of reads. I 249 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: was going through my reads. Nothing was there, trying fall 250 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: four for one or two, and we're again three or four, 251 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: and I mean then once again people, oh gotta say this, 252 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: gotta say that. I was like, all right, so everyone's 253 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna gonna have something negative to say if I try 254 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: to do to do my job, is that what I'm doing? 255 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: So I just went back. I had the concept with 256 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: myself with my mom and dad, uh, two people that 257 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: I always can rely on UM, and just started just 258 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, going back to how I've been run since 259 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: a little kid. Patient, Um, you know, sometimes they're gonna 260 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: make plays. It might be a negative run, but patient, 261 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: try to set up the blocks. Um, I know the scheme. 262 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: I got a good field for officive linement. Uh. And 263 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: this that's why the last couple of weeks we've been 264 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: I feel like the run game and game back on track, 265 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: and so much of the numbers at end of the 266 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: game come back to those one or two big runs. Right. 267 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: If you get a hundred fifty yard game, you're probably 268 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: gonna have a thirty or forty yard running there. What's 269 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: the art of turning that eight or ten yard game 270 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: into a thirty or forty yard game? Or is there 271 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: not an art to it? Is it just a matter 272 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: of making that special move with the line making one 273 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: extra block, knowing who do you got, knowing who the 274 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: line blocking the block, line blocking or right, getting you 275 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: one on one of your guy and you one of 276 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: your battles. So about one in your battles. Uh. I 277 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: think a perfect example would be the touched on against 278 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota last week. U line blocked it up perfect, John, 279 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: you know identified it perfect. I was able to get 280 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: one on one of safety And that's my job that's 281 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: when I gotta gotta step up the line, got me there, 282 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: I gotta step and make the play. And you know 283 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: sometimes N's football only didn't want to make plays. But um, 284 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: if I would be the guy that I know I am, 285 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: I gotta make that play more times than not. And 286 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: when you saw what the passing game did last week, 287 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: I thought it was the most consistent they've been. Daniel 288 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: through it over forty times, was efficient. They moved the 289 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: ball over, throwing the yards to the air. When you 290 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: see the passing game doing that, do you see the 291 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: boxes lighting a little bit? Do you see the impact 292 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: that has on the defense? Where who Well, we can't 293 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: put all this attention on se Quan because then Daniel 294 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: in the passing game is gonna make us pay for that. Yeah. 295 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: I think it's it's all about balance. It's all about balance, 296 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: all about playing off each other. Um, all three phases. 297 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: But if you just speaking offense, you know, you run 298 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: the ball, well, it's gonna help the past game. You 299 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: passed the ball, well it's gonna help the ring game. 300 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: That's you know, it's really not complicated. A lot of people, 301 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: A lot of people try to make it more complicated. 302 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: What it is, but that's the true. If you run 303 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: the ball well, you continue leaning it, but the shots 304 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: are going to be there. And that's why I think 305 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: you saw on the year, Um, you know we had 306 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 1: shot plays. You know you see Slay going down and 307 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: making big plays. Uh, And now you want to take 308 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: focus on the run game. The passing gonna be there. 309 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: We just gotta continue to trust it. And now we 310 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: gotta put together, especially late in the season and when games, 311 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, when games a little bit more critical and 312 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: critical situations. We just got to continue to feed off 313 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: each other and put up you know, all well rounded 314 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: game together passing in running. I don't feel like you've 315 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: been asked enough about your past protection this year because 316 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: I'll just speak for myself. I think it's been fantastic. 317 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: Was that if they focus for you this offseason trying 318 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: to get that past protection right? Is that something you've 319 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: done differently? Is it just a continuation and growth of 320 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: kind of what you've been doing your whole career? Is 321 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: I think you've been great and past bro this year. 322 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a continuation of what um throughout you know, 323 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: my whole career, just growing, um, getting older, having more Pearence. Uh. 324 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: Some of the time having the battle is knowing who 325 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: to block and just getting it before they can get 326 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: a move off of you. To be completely honest, and uh, 327 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: you know that's what UM, I've been able to do 328 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: this year and understanding the scheme, understanding the way we're 329 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: blocking it, UM getting there and my fits worked worked 330 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: hard uh in the off season, UM and throughout the 331 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: season on it. But I mean that that's I feel 332 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: like once again, like you know, especially there's there some 333 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: years I could have been, you know, way better, but 334 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: I never really thought my past blocking was really that bad. 335 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you said what I'm saying, but like 336 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: it's you lose here, they're like they're gonna blow it up. 337 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: But it's like, you know what I mean, when you're 338 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: doing it well, no one's gonna give you credit for 339 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: So it's like I don't really read too much and 340 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: thank you appreciate that. I don't really read too much 341 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: of that. I just try to go out to do 342 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: my job and you know, make sure that uh DJ 343 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: can get the ball off and if I could block 344 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: my guy and you know, we'll give him time getting 345 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: space and give them opportunity we know what he could 346 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: do with it on the opponent this week. People look 347 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: at their record four ten and one and they say 348 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: their homes should be a good game. Their defense is legit. 349 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: Like the fact that with their offenses had issues this year, right, 350 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: they've struggled, but the fact that their defense has kept 351 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: them in these games against Dallas, Philadelphia, the Chargers three 352 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: the best offensive football right there in the game. They're 353 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: leading in some of these games, like in the third 354 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: and fourth quarter. That defense is a problem, right, I mean, 355 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: now you're talking. You know what I mean. You're talking 356 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: you you say, I couldn't say any better than that. Uh. 357 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: I know how people feel outside this building, but inside 358 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: this building, no one's overlooking this team at all. They're 359 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: really talented team. And sometimes like you know, the ball 360 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: don't bounce away a couple of times, and you know 361 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: you don't get the wins, but crazy stuff happens. You know, 362 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: you don't. You can't just go off of a team's record, 363 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: obviously for ten and one or I forgot what you 364 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: got write a week we are in But like you said, 365 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, even before the Dallas game, before they had 366 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: multiple turnals back to back to back, like that was. 367 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: That was a good game, two point game in the 368 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: Philly You know, Philly is one of the best teams. 369 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: That was one of the best teams. Um, Philly, they 370 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, you can make it. Had a chance to 371 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: win that game. They were up two scores in the 372 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: fourth quarter in that game. So it's like they're they're 373 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: they're a good team, especially on defense. They have a 374 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: lot of talented guys. Um. You know, a great fund 375 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: that they do a really good job stopping and run. Um. 376 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a challenge. It's gonna be a challenge, 377 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: just like every week. It's the National Football League. Those 378 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: guys get paid just like we get paid. UM. And 379 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: it's not it's never I've been on the side where 380 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: you know you're four nine and one or four nine 381 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: or four and ten or whatever, and your mindset is 382 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: never like, oh, let's just come here and let this 383 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: team go to playoff. No, you're like, hey, let's try 384 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: to spoil you know, you might not be able to 385 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: complish what were in complish, but they try support someone 386 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: else's dreams. So our focus is taking week by week. 387 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: We know who our opponent is, go out there, try 388 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: to do the little things right, Um, continue leaning on 389 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: each other, trust the system, Uh, take care of ball. 390 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: And when we do that, we put ourselves in position 391 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: win games and find a way to win them. Two 392 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: more questions and I'll let you go here. I appreciate 393 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: all the time saying and it's been great, Thank you. 394 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Have you sensed the intensity picking up here towards the 395 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: end of the year with the games meaning a little 396 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: bit more and you know, playoff positioning and for you 397 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: guys winning your own game on the line. You know, 398 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: you've played in huge games in college. Obviously you understand 399 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: what it's like to play in big games. But in 400 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: the NFL a couple of years ago, you had the 401 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, win and helping you're in game at the 402 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: end of the year a couple of years ago. But 403 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: are you sensing that, you know, December and January, NFL 404 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: football kind of ramp it up here for for doing 405 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: your group Washington in Minnesota. Uh, the intensity of speed, um, 406 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: tension to detail. Uh definitely was ramped up. You know 407 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: those two games obviously everyone know you know what was 408 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: that stake for both teams UM in those two games. 409 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: So you definitely get to see the difference. And I 410 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: love how we responded. You know, I mean I love 411 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: how we played in those games. Obviously we got to 412 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: win against Washington, but the loss against Minnesota. But sometimes, 413 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: like the beauty of it, it's not a playoff game, 414 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, that game you don't lose and go home. 415 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: We still have an opportunity, uh to put ourselves in that. 416 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 1: But you can learn from those games, and we did 417 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of really good stuff. Obviously we gotta do 418 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: a better job to take care of the ball, but um, 419 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, away down eight points, gotta go down, score, 420 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: make up and get a two point version of offense, 421 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: step up and did that. Um, more times than not, 422 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: the defense did enough job. It just happened to be. 423 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: You know, there's only like I saw, I saw stats 424 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: like kickers are like two and eighteen against six yr 425 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: field goals and like three or three against the Giant. 426 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Like it's like, you know, you can't you can't knock 427 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: them as a heck of a kick. But more times 428 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: than not, like we played the Numbers the Number game, 429 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna miss that, they're gonna miss that kick or 430 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: they're not in a position to make that kick, and uh, 431 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: you get a chance in ot so I love how 432 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: our guys responded, and as you can see the intensity 433 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: of the game going, I think you can see how 434 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: the guys are around and around each other, and um, 435 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know that level steps up, that tensely stuff. 436 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: You see the guy stepping up too. Yeah. I want 437 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: to follow up on that because I think it's interesting 438 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: because I think fans leave the game like that and 439 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: they say, oh, we could have won that game. It 440 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: sucks we lost. I honestly walked out of that game. 441 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: And I'm on the plane with you guys going back 442 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: from Minnesota, and I'm like, this is one of the 443 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: more encouraging games the year because if you guys don't 444 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: shoot yourselves in the foot with some of those turnovers 445 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: right in the block punt, you outplayed a team that 446 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: had three losses. Like that's pretty good. In the offense, 447 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: I thought moved the ball up and down the field, 448 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: maybe as well as they had in any game this year. 449 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: Can you look at it kind of both ways? As 450 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: a competitor, you hate that you lost. I mean, you 451 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: can't hide that, but like you said, um, you can 452 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: find beauty and the loss. You can find beauty and 453 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: negative things, and um, we gotta continue to build off 454 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: of that, especially off the side of the ball. Like 455 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: you said, I think we moved the ball pretty well. 456 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: I think we can go out there execute a little 457 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: bit more when we get closer. Um. I love Graham, 458 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: He's a great kicker, the best kicker in the league 459 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Uh. And we know we got guaranteed 460 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: three going there and punching the boss a little bit more. 461 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: So we don't even we're not even in another positions 462 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: lay in the game, but we got a build off 463 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: that we we did some we disimpolgim with things, but 464 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if we don't know, go into the 465 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: next week building off that because it's important to you know, 466 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: have that that level of execution, especially as the games 467 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: get more intense and you know situations when you come 468 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: against really good teams, one mistake can cost your game. 469 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: All right, final question, I want to ask you about 470 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: your psychological approach. I really feel like you've been discipline 471 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: this year. Whenever you get asked questions about things, you 472 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: always seem to be very centered. You you know, you 473 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: see the forest from the trees, you answer the question. 474 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: But you just seem to have a very good approach 475 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: to everything. And you know, I think Brian Dable is 476 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: the same way, right, Like he will not mention the 477 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: word playoffs this week. They have tried a million times 478 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: asking about the playoffs and you will not budge on that. 479 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: And I feel like you're similarly disciplined. Have you How 480 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: is your psychological approach to the game and your game 481 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: and week till week changed over your career and you 482 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: know how was it kind of come together? And then 483 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: how do you look at it to make sure you're 484 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: you're in the right state of mind and your focus 485 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: so you come out there and you do play your 486 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: best on game day. Um, yeah, I would say it 487 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: definitely changed from our rookie year too. Now I guess 488 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: that's kind of just happens the nature of it, Um, 489 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, just growing, having more experience. But I will say, 490 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: just the adversity that had to face in my career, 491 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: the injuries out of face in my career. Um, you know, 492 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: you have doal, you have this, You have that all 493 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: the stuff that I had to you know, fall back 494 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: on with locking in being one discipline. Um, you know, 495 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: finding yourself again when you feel like your loss, I'll 496 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: help me and and to get back to this moment 497 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: and get back to where I'm at now, and I 498 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, like I said, kind of what 499 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: Minnesota law just beaut and everything you know you asked 500 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: me through you asked me a year ago, I would 501 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: have been like I never wanted to get hurt, like please, 502 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: Like I would never get hurt, Like, but those injuries happen, 503 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: and like now that I look back at it is 504 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: like things like they all happened for a reason. Um, 505 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: it really did happen for a reason. And like just 506 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: not even just had the football player outside of as 507 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: a you know, outside of football, but especially as a 508 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: football player, like just being so much more appreciative the game. 509 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm just having so much more respect to the game, 510 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: like knowing that could be taken from you at any 511 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: given moment um. You know, I would say That's where 512 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: I guess you could sense, you know, just a little 513 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: different approach for me. But yeah, just really just be 514 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: more appreciative of the game because knowing that one play 515 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: it could be taking away from you, It could be 516 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: taken away from you on a route team play something 517 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: that you've done multiple times in your life. And there's 518 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: no wrong the reason why you should have got hurt 519 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: on it. For instance Dallas last year, Like I just 520 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: stepped with someone's foot and I've never seen that step 521 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: someone's foot and like so it's like stuff like that, 522 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: just like WHOA really makes you sit down, like okay, 523 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: Like and I'm really passionate about this game. I love 524 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: this game and I want to be special. I'm gonna 525 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: leave leg say and um, I know that it could 526 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: be taken away from me to snap my finger, so 527 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: I just try to be calm, staying a moment um, 528 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: enjoyed the moment, and try to take advantage of it. Now. 529 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: You don't want to see a calm in the moment 530 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: crowd of MetLife Stadium on something. You want to see 531 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: some crazy fans going nuts, right, are you pumped up 532 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: to see that stadium? Like, full throated, I'm excited. I'm excited. 533 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: I think I saw something that Wink said he's like 534 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: knowing his New Year's you know, keep the party rolling, 535 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, wake up with New Year, keep it rolling 536 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: right to the tailgates. Uh, you know, put some put 537 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: some meat on the grill, grab a couple of beers, 538 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do to get you loud, and and 539 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: you know, just bring that energy and we know we 540 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: know they're gonna bring it, and you don't we That's 541 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: something that we wanted to do in the beginning season. 542 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: We wanted to put a product out there that the 543 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: fans could be happy about, and um, you know, we're 544 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: giving ourselves opportunity to do that and giving them opportunity 545 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: to that. So yeah, their energy that they're able to 546 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: brain is gonna just help us. So just thankful for them, 547 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: not only for what they're gonna do on Sunday, but 548 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: for the way they've been rocking with us throughout the 549 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: whole season. That's luck on something happy to your many fans. 550 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: Don't miss Giants Football MetLife Stadium this season. Limited tickets 551 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: are still available for the final game against the Indianapolis 552 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Colts on New Year's Day. Make sure you go to 553 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: Giants dot com slash tickets to find your game and 554 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: secure your seat. We thanks Sakoon Barkley for joining us 555 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: on the Giant Subtle Podcast. Now we head over to 556 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: our game preview, Lance Metal and Paul Detino every week 557 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: at the low down on the Giants opponent and go 558 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: deep into everything that the Giants will have to be 559 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: prepared for in that particular game this week, it's Mike Chappelle. 560 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: He covers the Colts for Fox fifty nine and CBS 561 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: four Sports. Let's listen in Giance welcome the Colts to 562 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: town this Sunday in their final home game of the season, 563 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: with an opportunity to clinch a playoff spot with a 564 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: win to get more into their opponent. This week, we 565 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: are now joined by a man who has been covering 566 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: the Colts since they arrived in Indianapolis in four now 567 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: working for Fox fifty nine CBS four, and that is 568 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: none other than Mike Chapel. Mike got Lance Meadow and 569 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: pulled the Tino here on Giants dot Com. Greatly appreciate 570 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: the time today, Hope poll as well. How's everything on 571 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: your end really good? Because there's just two games to 572 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: go in this mess of a season. Well, that's certainly 573 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: one way to put it. Can only understand and maybe 574 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: relate to a certain degree what it's been like covering 575 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: this team. And I actually want to start Mike with 576 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: the offensive line, which is actually a topic that we've 577 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: covered for many years with the Giants, because it's amazing 578 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: to me. You look two years ago they had Philip 579 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Rivers and arguably one of the best offensive lines in football. 580 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: We moved the calendar forward two years. I don't know 581 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: if I've seen maybe for the lack of a better phrase, 582 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: the deterioration or the lack of consistency on an offensive 583 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: line as quickly as we've seen in Indianapolis. So how 584 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: do you explain this huge turnaround to the opposite direction 585 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: over the last two years? Primarily uh, And what's crazy 586 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: is like this year they've had six or seven different 587 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: starting units, not by injury, They've not. None of this 588 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: is by injuries. It's all by performance, primarily left tackle. 589 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: They simply have not. It's funny how people took Anthony 590 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: Costanzo for granted, he's pretty good and he went pro bowler. 591 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: He's pretty good. And since then, you know, they you know, 592 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: last year they made the decision to bring in Eric Fisher, 593 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: who who Chris Ballard had known certainly from from Kansas City, 594 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: and it didn't work. He was okay in protection, awful 595 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: and pass protection. And then this year they made the 596 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: decision to fill that position with Matt Pryor, who in 597 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: his career had started one game at left tackle. There 598 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: was no there was no offseason competition. There was no 599 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: training competition either at left tackle or right guard. At 600 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: right guard, they lost both Marco Owinski and Chris Reid, 601 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: and we knew those were two good players at right guard. 602 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: But but left tackle, You guys, if you've been around 603 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: long enough, you can cover up deficiencies on the line, 604 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: especially guard. You can't. You can't hide a bad left tackle, 605 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: and that's what they've had. They finally have gone to 606 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: Bernhard Rhyman. I think it's the third round draft pick. 607 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: And in early he struggled because he had had eight 608 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: starts in college and and now he's finally kind of 609 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: getting his feet under him and maybe he's the guy 610 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: in the future. But the unsettled nature at left tackle 611 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: and right guard both really costs this team. And on 612 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: top of that, for the first I don't know third 613 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: of the season, Quentin Nelson wasn't playing well. Ryan Kelly 614 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: wasn't playing well, Brandon Smith wasn't playing well. And this 615 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: was This is the highest paid offensive line in the league. 616 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: It's like three million dollars is sucked into the line, 617 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: and if your line struggles, you just can't. It's just 618 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: hard to play offense in this league. Mike I want 619 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: to go big picture because obviously an offensive line that 620 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: is into sarray is going to short circuit any team's 621 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: plans for a good season. But let me go big 622 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: picture here. We're looking at a team that's got Jeff 623 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: Saturday now is a head coach. They've lost five in 624 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: a row, they've lost eight out of their last nine. 625 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: What are what are their emotions and their mentality as 626 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: they come into the meadowlands this weekend for a Giant's 627 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: team that has got sharp teeth, is hungry, has everything 628 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: on the line. Will Will the Colts if they get 629 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: beaten up early, be looking for that bus out of 630 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: New Jersey quickly? You know, I don't think so, in 631 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: this human nature, I just don't think so. You talked 632 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: to a handful of players, and what at least the 633 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 1: veterans realized those you're putting whatever you put out there 634 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: on tape, everybody sees, you know, And if this guy 635 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: is not back here next year, well well somebody on 636 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: else wn't want to have him in their place if 637 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: he laid down over the last couple of games. And 638 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: I think that, I think that's very real. I don't 639 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: think effort is going to be an issue. I really, 640 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: First of all, efforts should never be an issue. I mean, 641 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: you only place seventeen games, so I mean, can't you 642 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: get up for seventeen games? But to me, efforts not 643 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: the issue. It's it's it's personnel and it it's when 644 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: you have issues at quarterback and left tackle. I mean, 645 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: what what do you? What do you do? I that's 646 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: and then the third one has been you know, the 647 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: three top positions when you build a roster's quarterback, left tackle, 648 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: and edge pass freshurant And they've gotten okay, okay stuff 649 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: from Angokwa and and Dio or Putty pay. But it's 650 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: just that's been that's been hot spots. And again when 651 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: you when the offensive line struggles when it's left tackle 652 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: and quarterback, I mean, this is the ninth different starting 653 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: quarterback that they've had, you know, for Ryan Kelly, who 654 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: was there sixteen sixteen first round pick. You just can't, 655 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: you can't succeed. You guys have seen when you struggle 656 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: at quarterback, impact, the ripple effect hits every phase of 657 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: your team. That about it. Very similar to what you 658 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: were talking about with respect to playing the trenches. That's 659 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: why it's amazing how many games Frank Reich one before 660 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: he was let go, given the game of musical chairs 661 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: at quarterback that you were referencing Mike. So we've seen 662 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, we've seen Sam Ellinger. Now it's Nick Foles. 663 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: Clearly it was not pretty on Monday Night, three interceptions, 664 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: he was sacked seven times. What, if anything, could the 665 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: second game show for Folds, given he's now gonna have 666 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: another full week working with the first team offense and 667 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more comfort, or do you not expect 668 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: really any much of a drastic change. There should be 669 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 1: some Keep in mind he had not played. He had 670 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: been on the field for two plays this year, both 671 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: in mop up Jackson the early The first snaps he 672 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: took with the first starting with with the with the 673 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: starting unit was last Wednesday, and then a few days 674 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: later he's playing. I mean to me, the NFL really anything, 675 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: it's all about putting your layers in position to succeed. 676 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: When the Coults have put people in position to fail, 677 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: they just have whether it's whether it's Parks Fraser, the 678 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: three year old play caller, whether it's Jeff Saturday, whether 679 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: it was Sam Ellinger back when he was there, or 680 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: now Nick Foles and what what Monday night showed us is, yes, 681 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: quarterback is a problem, but these guys aren't the answer. 682 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: And that's why, only semi joking, he said, you know, 683 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: let's get these two games over please, because you know 684 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: they've scored. It's funny you start looking for numbers that 685 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: means something, and they've failed to score a touchdown in 686 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: four games this year. That's the first time since by 687 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: this team. Anytime you go back, you know, decades, you've 688 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: got issues. So but but I do think another week 689 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: will helpfuls just because I mean he's practicing with with 690 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: the group he's finally thrown too, you know, Michael Pittman 691 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: and Alec Pearce and Paris Campbell, and so that's got 692 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: to help you. But I just don't think that much 693 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: because he still is who he is, and I just 694 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: I just don't know that he can make a difference. 695 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: You know, Jonathan Taylor, this would have been a great 696 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: j T Versus Barkley game to watch two of the 697 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: best running backs in the league go to each other. 698 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I realized they will play against each other, 699 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: but see how they perform. And now there's gonna be 700 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: Barkley against Dion Jackson and Zac Boss and again, so 701 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: much of what needs to happen for a team to 702 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: be competitive they can't do because they haven't got the 703 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: personnel and how to do it well. Mike, Even with 704 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: the limited personnel, we know they've got nothing to lose, 705 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: So I guess there's always that puncher's chance theory where 706 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: they've got nothing to lose, and so they'll come in 707 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: and just start winging the ball around, taking chances, going 708 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: for fourth down, try and trick ways, and maybe if 709 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: you play with a totally carefree attitude, you might be 710 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: able to catch some whitening in a bottle. Does that 711 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: hold any merit in this particular case? Oh to me, no, uh, 712 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, going for it on ford downe okame off 713 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: for that, but winging it the idea of Nick Fole 714 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: thrown about forty five times, it is kind of, you know, 715 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of scary to me. Up, they've given up fifty 716 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: six sacks this year in the franchise record. I hate 717 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: to see that go down Sunday. But if they simply 718 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: come in here and throw the ball around in the 719 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: park and all that and not worried about the run game, 720 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. They have got to rely on the 721 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: run game. It's been okay. I mean it showed signs 722 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: if they could have stuck with it more. Against the Chargers. 723 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: They average about four yards to carry, which for them 724 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: is pretty good. Without Taylor, I just don't think that 725 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: with the broid the protections bend that they can say, 726 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's just push the ball down the 727 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: field and let's let's try to be aggressive. Unfortunately action, 728 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: I just don't think they can do that and be successful. 729 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 1: They came out against the Chargers and really, as we knew, 730 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: they would try to push the ball down the field. 731 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: And whether it was Folds not reading defensive right, whether 732 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: it was he and receivers not being on the right page. 733 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: You know, he throws three interceptions by early in the 734 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: third quarter, two early two in the first half. And 735 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: this team, and again I believe the Giants are one 736 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league. And not turning 737 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: the ball over and and that gives you a chance 738 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. That's why your success so in 739 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: one possession games, this team, again, it just depends on 740 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: what stat you want to use to show the futility. 741 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: They lead the league in most interceptions, they lead the 742 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: league in most fumbles fumbles and lost, and they lead 743 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: the league in in total turnovers. They've given up points 744 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: on their turnovers. So it's just a formula that hasn't worked, 745 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: and I just don't see how it changed. I understand 746 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: what you're saying about, Hey, what do you have to lose, Well, 747 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: you got, you know, your quarterbacks health to lose. So 748 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: I just don't see them doing what, like you say, 749 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: might be the real what you unexpected team to do. 750 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: These case can't do it because they haven't got the 751 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: person help to do that. And Mike piggy packing off 752 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: of your point, I mean, I think in addition to 753 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: the inability to protect the quarterback, the inability to score touchdowns, 754 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: and you reference also third down has been a miserable 755 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: percentage for them this season. The twenty nine to the NFL, 756 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: they were old for ten against the charges. They didn't 757 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: even convert one third down. That's more of a reason 758 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: why I would agree with you. I think you want 759 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: to run the ball to maybe set up some more 760 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: manageable third downs. But what's mind boggling is, no matter 761 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: who the quarterback has been, the third down lack of 762 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: efficiency has still remained. So what do you attribute to 763 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: why they have not been able to get over the 764 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: hump in sustaining drives and solving that third down riddle 765 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: protection and when they try to throw the ball, that's 766 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: when teams know they're gonna throw third and seven, third 767 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: and thirteen forget it. But a lot of the sacks 768 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: have come on third down when when you know the 769 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: defense knows it's coming, so they really they do, whether 770 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: it's just straight edge pressure or whether they This team 771 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 1: has really been really bad at picking up the line 772 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: stunts and things inside. So that's part of it. And 773 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: what's really crazy is it's really hard to say, you know, 774 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: they shouldn't have been to Ryan and really he gives 775 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: them the best chance he really does of winning, even 776 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: now as bad as he was in the second half 777 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: against Minnesota in a game that we all want to forget. 778 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: But the two worst games this year by the offensive 779 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: by the quarterback have been with Sam Allan and Nick 780 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: Foles that they were rulled for ten third downs against 781 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers, they were rulled for fourteen with Sam Ellinger 782 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: against the Patriots, and and two of the two of 783 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: the six worst offensive games this year in the league 784 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: yardage wise, number two with Sam Ellener with the hundred 785 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: and twenty one yards against the Patriots, and number six 786 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: was with Nick Boles with the hundred and seventy three 787 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. So it's why I say it's not 788 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks the problem. But the quarterback here is not 789 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: The quarterback answer now is not here. It's not these 790 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: three guys that're just not Mike. The perception from the 791 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: outside is that between Buckner and the got Way and 792 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: pay there are some some talented players on this defensive front, 793 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: and their third down statistics and average yards per game 794 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: are certainly very very respectable. So if the Colts are 795 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: going to make this a competitive game, does it were 796 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: lie on the shoulders of that defensive line. Well, that 797 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: question without quit and you and you didn't mention one 798 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: of their best players, Grover Stewart. He's a nose tackle 799 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you he's played at a Pro Bowl level. 800 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: He really has. Uh Buckner's playing well and and he's 801 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: been banged ups at an elbow and other things, and 802 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: God has been pretty good. It's funny. He'shouna end up 803 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: with like ten or eleven sacks and you're anything, really, 804 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: and it's not been quite that strong of a season. 805 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: But but no, this is the defense should keep it close. 806 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: I don't see that the Giants have been such an 807 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: explosive team. Now that may change if you get Berkeley 808 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: out on the edge and he turns an eight yeard 809 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: run into eighty, which which can happen. But this defense 810 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: has played well in I know, people roll their eyes 811 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: when you give up thirty nine points after halftime at Minnesota. 812 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: That was that was That was kind of like an outlier. 813 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: I think by and large, it's played pretty well. Like 814 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: I said, keep in mind with the thirty turnovers, the points, 815 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: I think I lose track of the number points. Yes, 816 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: you hope the defense limits damage, but sometimes it's just 817 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: hard to do when it's you know, series after series. 818 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmore played at a pro bow level. He really has. 819 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: Like you said, Buckner Quitty Pays played well. So they've 820 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: got a really good core of people when they make 821 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: changes in the off season. If I could bring this 822 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: defense back intact with with a few changes, but but 823 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: but intact, this is a playoff defense, super Bowl no playoff. Yes, 824 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: it's just been put in too many bad positions. And 825 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: in some cases it's just worn down. They should have 826 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: been they should have been Philly, they had Philly beat. 827 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: And then and then Jalen Hurts does a couple of 828 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: things that he always does, and they get beat. They 829 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: should have beat Washington. And then hind he throws one 830 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: deep to McLaren and he makes a great play against 831 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: Gil Moore. The defense, the defense is not the problem 832 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: at all. This is all offense, all offense. We're talking 833 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: with Mike Chappell, who has been covering the Colts for 834 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: multiple decades now working for Fox fifty nine CBS four, 835 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, the offense has done no favors 836 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: for the defense, Mike, over the course of the season 837 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: because of the precarious field position, I want to focus 838 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: on the secondary. They lose Isaiah Rogers last game to 839 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: a knee injury. They put him on I R. And 840 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: Kenny Moore has missed the last few games with an 841 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: ankle issue. The significance of not having those two guys 842 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: in the lineup, I know more has not practiced as 843 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: of right now based on what we're talking with you, 844 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: and how perhaps they have overcome those two players in particular. Yeah, 845 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: and at some point like you know that. You know 846 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: people ask question death, Well, everybody's got depth. I mean, 847 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: you get players, everybody's got five or six corners. But 848 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: when you lose two of your top four, the trickle 849 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: down effect is so immense at every position, but at corner. 850 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Rogers is playing really well, Phacion 851 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: is gonna have to play a lot more, and again Gilmore, 852 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: maybe it won't be quite so significant against the Giants. 853 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: And I'm probably setting myself up for Dan and for 854 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: a you got to throw for four yards, you know, 855 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, but but it's just it matters, and 856 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna see that Dallas Flowers will play more. And 857 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: he's primarily been a special team's guy. But at this 858 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: point of the season, when when you lose players, you know, 859 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your your fifth, sixth and seventh 860 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,479 Speaker 1: corner has to play. In a lot of times that's 861 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: sixth and seventh corner is on your practice squad. So 862 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: it's difficult. But but they they've played pretty well at 863 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: this point. Again, Gilmore's played very well. Fasion has been 864 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: up and down. That's why they're gonna miss Rodgers. But fortunately, 865 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: and I say that very cautiously. They don't face great 866 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: passing games these last two games. They did a decent jojob, 867 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: pretty decent job against Justin Herbert last week. But you 868 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: know they're just gonna be asking these young kids, unproven 869 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: guys to step up and play extended minutes. Mike. Final 870 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: thought for me is, Uh, when I look at the 871 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: cold special teams, I see, for the most part, a 872 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: really solid unit there. And I guess it's a shame 873 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: that that their efforts kind of have been wasted. But 874 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: how important is their special teams to give in them 875 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: some glimmer of folks? Well, they're offensive MVPs. Chase mccoughlin, Uh, 876 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 1: your kicker should never be your offensive m VP. That's 877 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: simply what you know. He said a franchise record with 878 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: like eight fifty yard field goals. You know, good for him, 879 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: but it just tells you the offense can't do much 880 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: when you get past the fifty yard line. They lose 881 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: their their punner before the season starts. And Matt matt 882 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: Off has been okay. Had He's had a couple of 883 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: bad games, but he's been okay, so you know, and 884 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Flowers has given him on returns. Although I tell 885 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: you it's funny. He's had He's had three or four 886 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: really really good returns, had won like eighty yards, and 887 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: then this past week he returns to one nine yards 888 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: dep I'm thinking, are you crazy? Nobody Devin Hester didn't 889 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: return him nine yards deep. So but it but it 890 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: just shows you they're trying to get some spark on 891 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: special team because you just know that the offense primary 892 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: it's not gonna do it, but special team, Like I said, well, 893 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: when I look back at this season, defense has played 894 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: well with a few hiccups. Special teams have played really well. 895 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: And I keep going back to the same thing is 896 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: it's been offense, but the other two areas have been 897 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: more than more than playoff worthy. Mike. Before we let 898 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: you go, I want to circle back to where we 899 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: started the conversation. I referenced off the top that this 900 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: is a huge game for the Giants. They have an 901 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to lock up the playoffs spot in the event 902 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: they win, because they control their own destiny and they 903 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: get to the postseason for the first time since two 904 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen. You were mentioning you're not concerned about the 905 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: Coats being motivated because, as you mentioned, you only have 906 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: seventeen games. But I guess what I'm getting at is, 907 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: even though it's out of conference, how where do you 908 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: think the Colts are of what the Giants have on 909 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: the line in this game and what that may add 910 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: to Jeff Saturday, the coaching staff and so forth in 911 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: terms of the dialogue entering this game. Well, yes, Ryan 912 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: Kelly that on Wednesday, and and he probably was speaking 913 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams or a lot of players, 914 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: And you know, like it doesn't matter what the Giant 915 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: seven line. This is about how they finished. And I've 916 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,479 Speaker 1: not followed it. If the Giants lose, can they still 917 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: get in by winning the final game? Or is this 918 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 1: the winner else game? Sure? No, there's still other possibilities 919 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: going into week A team, yeah, and even this week. 920 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: But but you don't want to leave in another people's hands. 921 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: That's true. No, you're right, because right tell you one 922 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: thing that that's been like the question in the last 923 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: few weeks, and it really rubs players wrong. But what 924 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: we have to ask it is, are you guys aware 925 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: that the more you win and the worst it hurts 926 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 1: you in the draft. And they don't care. They don't 927 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,760 Speaker 1: care because you know, if I'm a player in this roster. 928 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: I don't care what the draft pick is next year 929 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: because I may not be here. So I really think 930 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: they do internalize and this will be all about them. 931 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't. Hey, if you can spoil another team, super 932 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 1: that's sort of like a you know, an additional thing. 933 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: But they're much more important, more and more driven by 934 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: let's do what we do in just Saturday. At some 935 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: level has to know that. You know, going one and 936 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: seven as an interim coach isn't a good thing, especially 937 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: when you include giving up thirty three points and a 938 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: quarter to Dallas and giving up the biggest collapse in 939 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: NFL history. That's not good in your resume. But they 940 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: are trying to take get this the old one game 941 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: at a time, and they're just trying to finish strong 942 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: for themselves. You know who wants to finish the season 943 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: on a seven name losing streak. You know nobody, And 944 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: there's no way you sugarcoat that said, well, you know, 945 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: no seven names losing streak, the seven game losing streaks, 946 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: So they'd like to get one, if not here, then 947 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: the last game against Houston. But it starts sending against 948 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: the Giants. Well, they went against Houston next week. I'm 949 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: just looking to give him a six games kid. That's 950 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: all week to week. It's week the week. Like as 951 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: a quick follow up, because you got me thinking. The 952 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: media spoke to Mark Lewinsky this week who you reference 953 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: who obviously now remember the Giants and he was with 954 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: the Colts last season when they lost to the Raiders 955 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars at each of the final two weeks 956 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: and prevented themselves from getting into the playoffs. You've been 957 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: covering this team for many decades. You've seen the ebbs 958 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: and flows. I'm just curious. Every team is different. I'm 959 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: not saying the Giants are identical to the coach, but 960 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: what you saw in those final two games and what 961 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: you was a learning situation from what the Colts went 962 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: through in those two games that maybe can apply to 963 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: the Giants as they try to approach and close things 964 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: out in these final two weeks. Well, it's obvious the 965 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: Colts learned nothing from it, because you know they're fourteen 966 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: and one. But it's just that when when the time comes, 967 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: you have to you have to cash in and maximize 968 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: the effort because you don't know if you're going to 969 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: be there next year. If I'm the Giants, I don't say, well, 970 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: you know, if we lose, well we maybe we can 971 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: get in the next week, or you know, if we're 972 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: close this year, but if you don't get in both 973 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 1: we've got a good team coming back and maybe next year. 974 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: Now you do it, you do it now, because you 975 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: just don't know. You know, the Raiders got in last 976 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: year on the last game of the season. Look where 977 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: they are now. So it's it's and I know the 978 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: Giants have to believe that this it's for the moment, 979 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, the window closing, the windows up on whatever. Now, 980 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: if you can get in by last week against the Chargers, 981 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers win and got in, they don't they didn't 982 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: need help. And the last thing you want to do, 983 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: if you're any team, is well, if we win and 984 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 1: if one, two, six, twelve things happened, we're in the playoffs. 985 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: That's what you don't want. That's what the Colts had 986 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: last year. Win, go to Jacksonville, the worst team in 987 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: the league, and you're in and they and they were awful. 988 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: So just sees the moment and I'm sure that's what 989 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: the Giants and that's what I expect the Giants to do. 990 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: And it's a great point. We've seen the ups and 991 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: downs of the NFL. You're far from guaranteed to carry 992 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: over what happened the previous season into the following season. 993 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: I think that has been well documented. He is Mike 994 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: Chappell who's covered the Colts are multiple decades. You can 995 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: now see him on Fox fifty nine CBS four. Mike 996 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: always a pleasure speaker with you. Greatly appreciate the time 997 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: of the inside and look forward to Senior in East Rutherford, 998 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: New Jersey this weekend. Happy to you guys, to hey 999 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: Giant fans. The Giants official connected TV streaming app, Giants 1000 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 1: TV brings original video content in game highlights, on demand 1001 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 1: and direct the Big Blue Fans. Giants TV is free 1002 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: on Apple TV, Row coup and Amazon Fire TV and 1003 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,479 Speaker 1: the Giants Mobile app, and you can find a video 1004 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 1: version of all our podcast on that as well, including 1005 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live, so make sure you go check 1006 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: that out. Mike Chappelle, great preview of the Colts from 1007 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 1: him again, he covers them and he's been doing since 1008 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:19,760 Speaker 1: four at Fox fifty nine and CBS four. Make sure 1009 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: you follow him on Twitter at m Chappelle two Piece 1010 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: two L's fifty one. All right, let's get to our 1011 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: final conversation of the podcast. The Voice of the Giants, 1012 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: Bob Papa, has a nice conversation with the head coach 1013 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: of the New York Football Giants, Brian Dable. The Giants 1014 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: take on the Indianapolis Colts at MetLife Stadium, final home 1015 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 1: game for the season for the Giants and uh an 1016 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to lock down a playoff spot, and as always, 1017 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: were joined by the head coach of the New York Giants, 1018 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 1: Brian Dable and coach Um, you know, the opportunity sits 1019 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: in front of your football team. You've done a great 1020 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: job this year though of keeping the focus on the 1021 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: game and the opponent. Have you had to work extra 1022 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: hard this week to make sure that guys aren't talking 1023 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: Els and or talking Colts. No, it's been a consistent 1024 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: approach throughout, you know, since we started. Obviously we know 1025 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: what's at stake. I don't think anybody doesn't know that. 1026 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: But I think the more you can focus on the 1027 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 1: things that have gotten to you this point, that's why 1028 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: you've done all those things. You know, you've you've worked 1029 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: hard during the year to put yourself in a position 1030 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity like this and keep the main thing, 1031 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: the main thing, which is you know, preparing for the Colts. 1032 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: You know in Indianapolis. Despite what their record is, UM, 1033 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: you know, they've played in ten one possession games. You 1034 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: guys have played in twelve, So it's it's not as 1035 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: if they haven't been in football games. UM. And they 1036 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: do some things like you think about the Minnesota game, 1037 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: they blocked upont for a touchdown, They had to pick 1038 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: six for a touchdown in the first half of that 1039 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: those that game. So there are a lot of things 1040 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: that I would assume you could put on tape and 1041 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: have your team at high alert. Yeah, no doubt about it. 1042 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 1: I think what what's good about our team and our 1043 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: our players are coaches, is you respect every team you play, UM, 1044 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: from the first game to the last game, because everybody 1045 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: is good in this league. Everybody has a good coaching staff, 1046 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: and it really comes down to your preparation and ultimately 1047 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,479 Speaker 1: how you play on Sunday. Uh. Nick Foles, veteran guy, 1048 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. Um. You know they dusted him 1049 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: off against the Chargers last week and it was rough 1050 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: all the way around. You got to expect that with 1051 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: a full week with the Ones this week, you're gonna 1052 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: see a much better performance and a and a much 1053 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: more dangerous performance from the quarterback of the Colts. Yeah. Absolutely, 1054 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: I think you expect everybody's best each week. Um. And 1055 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: he's been a good football player a long time in 1056 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: this league. And I think he's got a lot of 1057 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: good weapons around him, a good offensive line, and um, 1058 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,720 Speaker 1: this is a good football team. Coach talk about their 1059 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: um running game and um, obviously Taylor's out for the season, 1060 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 1: and he's been a dynamic player, but they've got some 1061 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: other guys that can can hurt you with the run. Yeah. Absolutely. 1062 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: Jackson is a good player and Zach. I've been familiar 1063 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: with Zach for quite some time being at Buffalo. UM. 1064 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: And then they have a good offensive line and some 1065 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 1: tight ends that have good length and size, and um, 1066 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: they do a variety of things. Obviously, coach Saturday has 1067 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: been a former offensive lineman, so, uh, those guys are 1068 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: good up front. And then the backs, you know, they 1069 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: can hit a crease and go when you go to 1070 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. Um, Look, they have 1071 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: some pretty good numbers defensively. I think they're ranked eleventh 1072 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: and total defense. And you know, they've got a disruptive 1073 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,760 Speaker 1: force in the interior of that defensive front the forest 1074 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: Buckner has been doing it for a long time and 1075 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 1: doing it at a high level. And gock Way leads 1076 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: the team in sacks with nine and a half and 1077 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: then zero Franklin the linebacker, and then to find Gilmore. 1078 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this team has got a lot of good 1079 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: players on the defensive side of the ball. Yeah, this 1080 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: is a good defense, one of the better defenses we've played. 1081 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: UM coach Bradley has done done this for a long time. 1082 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: I think they understand his system. Uh. They play fast, 1083 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: They're big inside with Stewart and Buckner, they can rush 1084 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: the passer, Jana can pay Um they have a you know, 1085 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: a former defensive All Pro just a few years back, 1086 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,760 Speaker 1: and Gilmore, who's you know, plays at a high level. 1087 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: And it's a fast defense that doesn't give up a 1088 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: lot of big plays. They do a good job of 1089 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: stopping the run. And you know, like like I've mentioned before, 1090 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: four of the last you know, six weeks, they've been 1091 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: up at the end of the third quarter, so they 1092 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: don't give up a whole lot of points. The Dallas 1093 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: game kind of got away from them with you know, turnovers, 1094 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: but um, a very very good defense. They have turned 1095 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: the ball over thirty times, that's the most in the NFL. Um. 1096 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 1: You guys have had opportunities, you know, even in the 1097 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: Minnesota game, opportunities for interceptions not able to connect on them. 1098 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: How important is it when you get those chances to 1099 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: make sure that you capitalize on them? Yeah, it's huge. Um, 1100 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, one of the deciding factors in most games 1101 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 1: is turnover margin. And you know, just taking a look 1102 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: back at last week, we had too many. You know, 1103 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 1: we had to plus the block punt. Um, we had 1104 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: our hands on some of them, just didn't quite come 1105 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: down with them or got one called back. And um, 1106 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, we have to we have to create turnovers 1107 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: on defense and we have to do a good job 1108 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: of taking care of the ball on offense. Coach. Finally, 1109 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: with this being the final home game of the two 1110 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 1: thousand twenty two season, Um, you know we've talked about it. 1111 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: You've you've made MetLife Stadium a home field again for 1112 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: the Giants where it's you know, Giants fans are in there. 1113 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: Just talk a little bit about what the fans have 1114 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: meant for you and this team during the season, playing 1115 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,760 Speaker 1: these home games. That's awesome. They're great. Um. They present 1116 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 1: a lot of problems for opponents, offenses at the line 1117 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, the communication. They're loud. You know, we have 1118 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: a packed house. They're they're early, they're getting ready to go. UM. 1119 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,760 Speaker 1: I know they give the players and the and the coaches, 1120 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: you know, juice during the game. Um. They've been supportive 1121 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: throughout my time here. Um. They love the game of football. 1122 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: You can tell that they're passionate, and I think you 1123 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: know their passion and their excitement. You know, that gives 1124 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: the players again energy on the sideline. UM. So you know, 1125 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: we're very thankful for them and we're looking forward to uh. 1126 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 1: Them being pretty loud today. Coach, we appreciate a couple 1127 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: of minutes. Best of luck in the ball game. We'll 1128 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: do it again next week. Awesome. Thanks that's Johnt Stade. 1129 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: Coach Brian Dabi. We thank you for joining us on 1130 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: the John Suttle Podcast. We also thank Sae Kwon Barkley 1131 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,439 Speaker 1: for being a part of the program, and we thank 1132 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,720 Speaker 1: Mike Chappelle again covers the Colts out there in Indianapolis. 1133 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: Great show. Thanks to Bob, Thanks to Paul, Thanks the 1134 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: Lance for chipping in again. Hope everyone had a happy 1135 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 1: holidays and hope you have a happy and safe new Year. 1136 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,399 Speaker 1: As the Giants head into Tree, I'm John Chamulk. 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