1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: It's Lines and Times on the iHeart podcast network, available 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: wherever you download the podcast. Thanks so much for checking 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: out the last couple episodes. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Excited about Today. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: He's a three time high school national champion did with 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: several partners. He has won a million dollars in a 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: fishing tournament. Most recently won an Elite Series tournament with 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: bass Master, his first ever win. 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: Hopefully one of many. But Tucker Smith is Onlines and 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Times today. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Tucker, I want to start out just kind of getting 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: to know you a little bit, because I mean, I've 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: met you a handful of times, but I think there's 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: a lot of things that people hear about you or 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: make up about you that they want to believe because you're. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: One of these new anglers, you're young. 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: Everybody lumps you in with being a scoper and thinking 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: that you can't handle a bait caster. And I kind 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: of loved what you said in that last tournament where 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: you were like, what did. 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: You say something of out a bait caster? 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: I said, I still know how to catch one on 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: a bait. 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Cast, which I love. So Obviously you've heard the noise 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: of people lumping you as just a scoper, Yeah, I have. 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me first of all. But yeah, I have. 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: But I mean I grew up fishing around the Kusa 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: and fishing without live scope. I didn't start live scoping 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: until my sophomore I think it was the beginning of 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: my sophomore year of college when I started live skipping 31 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: a lot. So I grew up not doing it. And 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: now it's new technology that we, you know, are able 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: to use and we need to use it if we're 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: able to use it in tournaments. So that's what I've 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: been doing. But I like doing it all man, I've 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: been like that tournament. I caught some on a swim jig, 37 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: some on a football jig. But I'm good at scoping 38 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: for sure. 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know your pedigree either. Like 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: your grandfather introduced you into fishing, I think, like most 41 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: people that get out and go fishing. How instrumental was 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: your grandfather bo. 43 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely he got me into it. We used to 44 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: fish the Marks Outdoors tournament every year when I was 45 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: growing up, and it was it was a big deal 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: for me because he had a boat back in the 47 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: day when I was growing up and to be able 48 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: to get out there with him on logan Martin. That 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: was that was what got me started and got the 50 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: fire under me. Going to those tournaments. Seeing that you 51 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: could win money bass fishing, catching fish was something I'd 52 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: never seen before and that it really got me pumped 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: up and maybe want to do it. 54 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Was your grandfather really good at it? Was he winning 55 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: at those Marks Outdoors tournaments? 56 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: No, I mean he fished like the Federations and stuff 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: like that back in the day, and he was a 58 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: good fisherman for sure. But yeah, just being out there 59 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: with him was was what got me into it. 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: I've shared this with several people, I'll share it with you. 61 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: But I grew up on an incredible bass fishing lake 62 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: and I never fished when. 63 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: I was a kid. I wanted to. 64 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: I used to go to this local tackle shop and 65 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: I walked in and I would ask him all the time, 66 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: like what are the fish bites? And this one guy 67 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: that worked there brought over a storm wigglewart crank bait. 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: So I gave them all the money that I had 69 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: in my pocket. I think it was like five bucks 70 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: or something. I've never thrown that bait. I have it 71 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: in my box on my boat, but I'll never throw it. 72 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: It's like too sentimental and it's a four dollars crank bait. Yeah, yeah, 73 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Do you have anything in your boat that's 74 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: kind of an ode to where you came from or 75 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: a good luck charm? 76 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: Uh? 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 3: Definitely some of the rods and reels that I got 78 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: from Aaron Martin's I've got. 79 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: You still use those in tournaments? Yeah? 80 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: I do. I've got three of them that I use 81 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: in tournaments, and I always have them like on the 82 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: front deck of the boat. 83 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: Why would you use something like that? 84 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: You ever worried like those are gonna break and you 85 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: won't have those anymore. 86 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I've always thought about that, but then I realized, 87 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: like I think about it a little bit more, and I'm like, 88 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: Aaron would definitely want me to be using those rods 89 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: and reels. He doesn't want them to sit up on 90 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: the shelf and collect us Like if it snaps or 91 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: something breaks on it, I'm just gonna put it up 92 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: on the shelf anyway. Yeah, I mean, I'd rather catch 93 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: fish with it and use it. They're good reels and rods. 94 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: What did his relationship mean to you? 95 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: A lot? 96 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: For sure. I'd to see somebody treat younger, like the 97 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: younger generation with so much respect and uh and not 98 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: just about fishing, but just being a person was means 99 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: a lot to me, especially when I was young. He 100 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: took the time to talk to a lot of the 101 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: young high schoolers and kids growing up and fishing. So 102 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: just seeing that really opened my eyes and makes me 103 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: want to, you know, be involved in the younger generation. 104 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: How did it come about, though, Like you don't really 105 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: think that you were in what middle. 106 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: School, high school, early high school? 107 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: I think about like when I was in high school, 108 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't really friends with my friend's parents, But that's 109 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: how it worked out with you and Aaron. 110 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I mean his his daughter was on the 111 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: fishing team that I went to, and yeah, he was 112 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: always around the school, always around the fishing team, and 113 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: just hanging out with him through fishing, like it really 114 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: taught me a lot. But yeah, it was just all 115 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: through fishing was how we got a relationship. 116 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: Well, what was the first instance that you guys actually 117 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: went fishing together. 118 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: I was probably early high school going to Logan Martin 119 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: was probably the first time I went fishing with him. 120 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: And you just called him and you were like, hey, 121 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: you know I'm really interested in this. Or did Aaron 122 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: Martin's the bast master champ that he was say, hey, 123 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: won't you come fisher may Well? 124 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: His daughter fished with my cousin in high school. So 125 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: I don't really know how it started. I don't really remember. 126 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: I just know that we became friends and then we 127 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: ended up going fishing. 128 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: You finished second in the tournament before, and you finished 129 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: second to your roommate on the road, Paul Marx, who's 130 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: an absolute hammer everywhere he goes really heartwell, was kind 131 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: of set up perfect for him. 132 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 133 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: Do you guys have a lot of conversations during the 134 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: tournament week about like how you felt going into the 135 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: next day. 136 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: Not really, I mean we were just fishing, like it 137 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: seemed like every day. We were just fishing new water 138 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: mostly so it was kind of like anybody's game. Whoever 139 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: just ran into him the last day was gonna win. 140 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 3: But it was so tight, like first, second, and third. 141 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: It was all just like one fish. So one fish, 142 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: one big large mouth or one big spot out there 143 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: just would separate you from winning and getting second. That's 144 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: what happened. But I had a bigger bag than Paul did. 145 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: The last day, but he had a big bag the 146 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: first day, but it was all up to that one bite. 147 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: And I think the first day he had two big 148 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: large mouth and I only had one big large mouth 149 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: the second day, So it just could have been that 150 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: one fish that separated us. But yeah, we're Me and 151 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: Paul are super close friends. And to be able to 152 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: pull off two wins back to back weeks with your 153 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: best body, that's something that's really special. 154 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: I feel like the crew that you're running with, you 155 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: guys could have some really good success over the next 156 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: couple of years when it comes to the elites, like 157 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: a Meal is no slouch, Lowberg is really good, You're great. 158 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: Paul is awesome. 159 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Do you feel that you guys really bounce off of 160 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: each other well and you have a competitive nature to 161 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: really go after the three or four of you. 162 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: It's fun because we're all we're all rookies, we're all 163 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: like new to this. So to be able to travel 164 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: around the country and fish these tournaments with your friends, 165 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun. But definitely we're competitive and 166 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: we like to have we like to have fun. But 167 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: the house is full of hammers for sure. Lowberg and 168 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: a Meal and Paul they're all really good fishermen. In 169 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: any tournament of the year, they can win that tournament. 170 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: So just to be able to travel with some guys 171 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: that you know and have fun, it's it's a good time. 172 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Well we went to when you guys went to Heartwell, 173 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: I got a message from a friend of mine. They 174 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: were like, I don't know who to pick for my 175 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: fantasy team, and I said, well, the choice is pretty clear. 176 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to have Tucker in there, a Meal 177 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: in there, and Paul in there. Yeah, you kind of 178 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: just slid in. I was like, damn, I made some 179 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: good picks. I should have played fantasy. All right, I'm 180 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: going to play something for you, and I just want 181 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: you to share with me what was going through your 182 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: mind when has happened? 183 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 5: Ninety two pounds ten ounce to start the day, looking 184 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 5: for twenty nine ten to take the lead, thirty four 185 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 5: pounds fourteen ounces, thirty four fourteen and with one hundred 186 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 5: and twenty seven pounds eight ounces, Tucker Smith is leading 187 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 5: the tackle Warehouse bass Master Elite on Lake FOURK. 188 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: So you hear Dave Mercer lose his absolute mind like 189 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: he does when he announces anybody who wins what was 190 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: going through your mind when you were looking at the 191 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: scale for the weight? 192 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: Uh, I was in shock. I thought Coyle was gonna 193 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: have a really big bag because he had an eight 194 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: pound lead going into the final day, and that's a 195 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: big lead in a bass fishing tournament. 196 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: He's scary to fish against. 197 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's he was also scary because every single 198 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: day of the tournament his way got better and better. 199 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 3: Like I think the first day had like thirty, second 200 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: day had like thirty two, third day had like thirty 201 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 3: five or something. 202 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: What do you think it is? It makes him so 203 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: intimidating the people. 204 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 3: He's just silent. He's got a lot of sneaky baits. 205 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: He's quiet. I think it's because he doesn't speak very 206 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: good English. He's very scary. 207 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: It's it's so funny to watch, like guys like Koya 208 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: and Taku, two different personalities but both equally dominant when 209 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: they're on the water. He has an eight pound lead, 210 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: you sack out a pretty big bag that final day. 211 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, thirty four pounds is nothing to sneeze at. 212 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: And you knock Trey McKinney off. Then you're sitting there, 213 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: you're waiting for koya to go in. Once they announce 214 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: that you're the winner, what happens. 215 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: I didn't think it was real. It was weird because 216 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: the whole week felt like a dream, and especially that 217 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: day felt like a dream, just because I was in 218 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: a rotation where it was, you know, go to the 219 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: lake and fish the tournament and then come back to 220 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: weigh in and then go back home. And I was 221 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: in that like same rotation for four days straight. My 222 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: body was just like, I guess you used to that, 223 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: So I don't know. It just felt like I was 224 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: supposed to, you know, go back to the house and 225 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: go back to sleep and get ready for the next day. 226 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: But I actually had won the tournament. I don't know. 227 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: It was so surreal, and. 228 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: Then he had to do all the media stuff, yeah, 229 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: pictures exactly, And it didn't set in until probably a 230 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: week later that I had actually won. 231 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: And didn't it screw you up on the next tournament. 232 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: I mean I went straight from there to the Sabine 233 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: River and it was like a six hour drive the 234 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: next day after the championship day, so I didn't really 235 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: get to practice too good the first. 236 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Day because I saw somebody I saw somebody said, oh, Yeah, 237 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: these guys are really good. 238 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: Look Tucker wins last week and now he's dead. Like, 239 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: didn't you oversleep like day one or something. 240 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: No. 241 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: I was kind of late the first day, but I 242 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: mean that's just. 243 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 2: Fine, Like it's your tournament. You could do what you want. 244 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: I didn't ever sleep the first day of the tournament. 245 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: I ever slept the first day of practice because I 246 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 3: was tired from the last week. 247 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean why not. 248 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean it's it is what it is. 249 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: That place was definitely tough, the sabine, and I figured 250 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: him out. The second day I went I was going 251 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: to head to a place that to fish that I 252 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: wanted to fish, and I ended up there was a 253 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: ton of boats running to this one area. The place 254 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: was like flooded and there was only two areas of 255 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: the lake that had cleaner water. So every boat was 256 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: like in the areas that that had the cleaner water. 257 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: And I was heading to one area there was a 258 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: ton of boats. I was like, screw that, I'm going 259 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: to turn around and go fish by the boat ramp. 260 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: I caught one fish by the boat ramp all day, 261 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: and I was like, well, guess one venture. Yeah, a 262 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: good twelve entures, and I was like, well, I'm going 263 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: to go back to the place I should have gone yesterday, 264 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: and I ended up catching almost eight pounds in saving 265 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: my tournament. 266 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: But I'd said on an earlier episode of the podcast 267 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: that I think it's a little ridiculous that bass Master 268 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: does the Century Belt at places like Lake Fork, because 269 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: you would assume that a Century Belt would be maybe 270 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: to one or two people a tournament, but the top 271 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: ten all had over one hundred. Texas is just a 272 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: big bass factory. Do you feel like that maybe the 273 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: Century Belt needs to be changed to a one twenty 274 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: five and higher at a place like Texas bodies of 275 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: water because of how big their fish are in the quality. 276 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean I think that I 277 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: think just to make the top ten is a big deal, 278 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: and then to get a Century Belt on top of that, 279 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: it's basically like getting a plaque for making a top 280 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: ten at a place like that. So I mean, so that. 281 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like a participation trophy type deal. 282 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think it's a big deal. 283 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: No matter what I that said. 284 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: I think they should do something on the sabine too, 285 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: like if you catch over let's say twenty pounds a day. 286 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: They should give you something. 287 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: Oh, there's no way you're gonna catch over twenty that's 288 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: my point. I think it's over ten pounds a day. 289 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: It's like it's like a Dame deal. 290 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: Like bron came in here after that tournament. 291 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: He was talking about, you know, he won the Sabine 292 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: what was it last year or the year before, and 293 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: he was talking about Pat Slopper and he was like, 294 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, Pat didn't have at fifteen pound. 295 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: Day that everybody looks for. 296 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: So you go from a place like Lake FOURK where 297 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: you're sacking thirty four pounds on five fish, and you 298 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: go to Sabine where you're pumped to get a one 299 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: point seventy five. 300 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: Oh, it was like the highest of highest of the 301 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: lowest of lows. It's like insane. Well, I'd catch a 302 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 3: three pounder, it's like catching a ten. 303 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm glad that he brought up that. 304 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: It was a long drive after Lake four because we 305 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: were kind of catching up right before we jumped on 306 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: the pod and we were talking about tournament schedules and 307 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: you know, I'm fishing like bfls and abts and all 308 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I can't fish in the 309 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: morning because of the radio show, so I have to 310 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: find myself fishing in the afternoon. I was kind of 311 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: kicking myself because I feel like, well, if you don't 312 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: really know what's happening in the morning, it can be 313 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: a real struggle, since most tournaments end around two or 314 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: three o'clock in the afternoon. But you said that you're 315 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: pretty much a afternoon guy the whole time. 316 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: I hate the mornings with a passion. 317 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: So what is it like, Because a lot of people 318 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: would feel like that you're kind of cutting You're cutting 319 00:13:58,760 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: your day in half. 320 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: I just fish. I just hate waking up, first of all. 321 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 3: But his second off, I wake up and I get 322 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: out there, and I fish till dark instead of the 323 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: morning till twelve. I fish from you know, mid morning 324 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: to dark every day. 325 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: But do you feel like that that translates. I mean, 326 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: obviously it does. 327 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: You've done well, I mean it, I think so. I 328 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: think really one of the only times you need to 329 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: be out there early in the morning is for like 330 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: the shad spawn or something like that. I think that honestly, 331 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: most mornings of tournaments, if I don't know where I'm 332 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: going to start I just pull up to a random 333 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: place that looks good, and sometimes it's not even worth practicing, 334 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: especially if you're fishing shallow and there's you know, throwing 335 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: a top water or something like that. You just need 336 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: to pull up to a place that looks good and 337 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: see if you can get a bye. 338 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: So then are you a Are you a type of 339 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: person who believes in the timing side. I feel like 340 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: Aaron was always kind of locked in with timing. 341 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: He knew that at. 342 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: Eleven o'clock his bite was going to pick up over here, 343 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: so you wanted are you the same way? So where 344 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: you'll You'll say, I'll randomly fish in the morning, but 345 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: I know that my stuff's gonna get really good in 346 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: the afternoon. 347 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this time of year, I fish offshore. 348 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons I don't like getting up 349 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: super early is those fish offshore don't start biting. Is 350 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: they don't start biting until about nine am. 351 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: That's when the show the teenager fish that are out there. 352 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's when the shad leaves the offshore 353 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: places and then you can actually see the fish and 354 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: they start grouping up as nine am. So yeah, and 355 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: then the afternoon, like right before dark. It kind of 356 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: sets up the same like the morning does. To low 357 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: light conditions, the fish bite in the morning and they 358 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: bite at night or right before dark. So actually fish 359 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: a tournament last night and we caught one light right 360 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: at dark, five pounder on Gunnersville. 361 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: So if you find fish in the afternoon, you're immediately saying, 362 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: these fish are going to be there in the morning. 363 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: I can go back do the same thing, or do 364 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: you just kind of reverse the plan? 365 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean basically the same thing. It depends what 366 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: it is. You know, if you're fishing shallow and you 367 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: some bites like on a frog or something and some grass, 368 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: then you could definitely come back in the morning and 369 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: catch the same fish. But low light conditions are the 370 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: biggest deal. That's when they're gonna bite the best. And 371 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: on the TVA and where I live on Gunnersville now, 372 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: but they pull current the best in the afternoons on 373 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: the weekdays. So the afternoons on the weekdays at the 374 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: best day. 375 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: What's that do for a tournament? 376 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: Then, Like if you're if you're fishing, if you practice 377 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: during the week on Gunnersville and then on Saturday, they're 378 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: not running the generators or. 379 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: The schedule is, and what was matching in the afternoon 380 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: or during the week. How bad does that screw you up? No? 381 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: I mean not really bad, because you know where they're 382 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: biting at. You know where they're at. 383 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: You can find the area. 384 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, finding the areas and then expand from there and 385 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: then picking it a party even more on tournament day, 386 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: it's always going to be tougher, so you're gonna have 387 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: to grind even harder, definitely on the tournament day, but 388 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: you're at least going to be around them. 389 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: It definitely feels like guys like me, recreational weekend warrior kind, 390 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: we could probably overthink fishing too much up, Like, we 391 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: probably just need to simplify. What advice would you give 392 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: somebody who's a weekend warrior that's listening to the podcast. 393 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: I mean this time of year especially. 394 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: Well just in general, Dan, in general, do you think 395 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: guys just overthink fishing too much? I've heard Swindle say 396 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: that they're dumb green fish. 397 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: I mean I overthink it a lot. 398 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: Hard to say that, nobody else depends, It depends. 399 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: It depends on the time of year. Sometimes you just 400 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: got to lock in, you know, lock a bait in 401 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: your hand, like if it's I mean, if you. 402 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: Had a choice of the bait that you would lock 403 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 2: in your hand, what would it be. 404 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: If I had a choice. 405 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: You go to a tournament, they say you can only 406 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: fish one bait all day. 407 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: I've been catching a bunch on a football jig recently, 408 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: and it's been a lot. It's been a lot of fun. 409 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: There's there's nothing like getting a bite dragon. Like the 410 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: way that those fish fight when you're dragging. They fight 411 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: harder than any other fish. 412 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: I don't you find it true that bigger fish by jigs. 413 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. I think it's they well, they bite 414 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: it like when it's moving slow. I think I think 415 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: they like a slow moving bait. 416 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you weighed what they weighed, you'd 417 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: probably sit there and go, yeah, yeah, if a burger 418 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: is going to come in front of me slower, I'm 419 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: probably going to be more apt to grab it. 420 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: I want to go back to your win. 421 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: I was really laughing at Dave Mercer because I think 422 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: I feel like he knew what he was doing, but 423 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: he asked you to put that trophy over your head 424 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: more than any angler, I think on the trail. Why 425 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: did they ask you to hoist that thing so many times. 426 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: He was thinking of seeing if I was strong enough 427 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 3: to do it. I should. 428 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 2: I was, how much do you think that thing weighs? 429 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: It's probably, like, honestly, probably like sixty pounds. 430 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: They're big. 431 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: It gets heavy, sixty seventy. I don't know. It's it's 432 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 3: full of like it's like straight marble or whatever on 433 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: the bottom and the top. I don't know. It's heavy. 434 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 435 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: I was watching Mercer and he's like, come on, hoist 436 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: it up one more time. And the look out of 437 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: your face is like, dang, dude, I've done it. I 438 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: think we've got the picture. We're good to go. 439 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 3: It's adrenaline too, Like, it was definitely a lot of adrenale. 440 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: It was a blessing to be able to hold that 441 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: thing up. But Paul was telling me because he won 442 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 3: the week before, and he's like, just wait till tomorrow. 443 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: Your arms are gonna be tired from lifting that thing up. 444 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: I was like, probably, so well, it was awesome. 445 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: You had your family there, your mom and dad got 446 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: to see that. What did they say to you after 447 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: the tournament? Other than good job? I mean every parent 448 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: says good job. 449 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: But yeah, a lot of tears. No, they were pumped. 450 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: They were just saying how proud they were. They've been 451 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: my biggest supporters through my whole fishing career and just 452 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: pushing me to do better, pushing me to fish tournaments. 453 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 3: It's hard to let your kid go and they're sixteen 454 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: years old and you're the oldest kid and you want 455 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: to travel around the whole country and pull a bass boat. 456 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: So it's hard for I'm sure it was hard for 457 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: them to let me go and fish all these tournaments. 458 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: But I'm grateful that they did because got a lot 459 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: of experience around the country now, and they were so happy. 460 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: It's awesome to see all the hard work that I've 461 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 3: put in really pay off, and I know that they're 462 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: ecstatic to see it. They probably more excited than I was. 463 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: So wait a minute, you were pulling a bass boat 464 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: by yourself independently at sixteen? 465 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 466 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: How'd you practice and learn all that? 467 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 3: I mean, just it's been in my family, my grandfather, 468 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: my uncle. 469 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: So you were putting your grandfather in at the ramp. 470 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: I mean I was probably driving the boat. He probably 471 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: dumped me in and I was driving the boat when 472 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: I was young, Yeah. 473 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: Because learning how to back up a trailer for a 474 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: lot of people is, you know, tough. 475 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 3: I've always been like out in the woods and hunting 476 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: or driving four wheelers, golf carts all that dirt bikes. 477 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: So I knew you had a lot of people who 478 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: were by your side when you won your tournament. You 479 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: had a couple of people that were noticeably missing, were 480 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: at home, and then you had one that wasn't there. 481 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: What do you think Aaron Martins would have said to you. 482 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: I tried out to get emotional when I talk about it, 483 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: but man, I think he would probably say I told 484 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 3: you so for sure, Because when I was young, he 485 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: would tell me and other people that I was gonna 486 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: win a Blue Trophy one day, and for some reason 487 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: he saw that in me, and I didn't think so 488 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 3: at all. I thought it would just be an amazing 489 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: dream just to make the Elite Series and then to 490 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: be able to win one my fifth event. Ever it was. 491 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 3: It was just a dream come true for sure for me, 492 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think he'd he'd definitely be happy and said, 493 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: you know, I told you so for sure. 494 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: How many fish in that tournament did you catch on 495 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: the setup from Aaron Martins. 496 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: I definitely caught a few I was throwing. He gave 497 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: me a maitanium eight to one bait casting reel and 498 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: I was throwing a football jag on that and I 499 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: caught one that was seven pounds on it the final day, 500 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: which I only won by I think like fourteen ounces. 501 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 3: So every fish that I caught all we was, you know, 502 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: just the perfect amount to win the tournament. 503 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: I think one of the craziest tournaments that I've ever 504 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: seen was Aaron Martin's on the blackbird pattern. 505 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: Have a sue. 506 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: How insane for somebody to be able to pick up 507 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: on that exactly, that's exactly what they're doing. And this 508 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: is and just because it's not like he had a 509 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: lot of baits in the boat that would have mimiced that. 510 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: And for him to have that, it's like a stroke 511 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: of luck. 512 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And he I remember him telling me that story. 513 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: He was saying that he was he was catching some 514 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: fish in the tournament and he ended up looking at 515 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: his livea when he was grabbing the fish out at 516 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: wigh in and saw some black feathers, some little black 517 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: feathers in the bottom of his livewell and he was 518 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: like looked at his looked at one of his buddies 519 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 3: and said, I'm gonna win this tournament if I figure out, 520 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 3: you know, where these bass are feeding on these blackbirds. 521 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: And he ended up finding it catching those giant fish 522 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: on it. And the crazy thing about that that tournament 523 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: was on Mother's Day and I ended up winning Lake 524 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: Fork on Mother's Day. So that was I don't think 525 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: anything's a coincidence in life. I think that I don't know. 526 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: It just was that a godewink, I definitely think so. 527 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: When it comes to people fishing and practicing in tournaments, 528 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: you hear the term all the time where people are like, 529 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: don't burn your fish, don't set the hook the day 530 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: before a tournament. How does Tucker Smith practice? 531 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: I don't set the hook much. I use like especially around. 532 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: You shake them off or I mean, how are you 533 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: even judging the size? 534 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: I shake them off, or I look at them on 535 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: side skin or forward facing sonar, or if you're going 536 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: down the bank frog fishing, don't I don't set the hook. 537 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: I shake them off. I take my hooks off, I 538 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: cut my hooks, I put stuff over my hooks. I 539 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: try not to catch fish in practice. 540 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: Starting on like a Monday, or do you catch a 541 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: few early in the week and then you cool off 542 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: as the week. 543 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends. I like try to I try to 544 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: figure out a bite, and I try to figure out 545 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: multiple bites on the lake, different patterns, and I'll try 546 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: to catch a few on each pattern just to see 547 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: if it's a stable pattern, and then I'll try to 548 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: figure out, you know, the quality of the size of 549 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 3: the fish, and then I'll try to figure out more 550 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 3: and more places like that that set up the same 551 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: and then I'll replicate it and shake those fish off. 552 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 3: But yeah, I try to do a bunch of different 553 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: things around a body of water that I have a 554 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: tournament on, and I just try not to set the hook. 555 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 3: You'll see some of these guys pull up to these 556 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: like ledge tournaments, and they'll pull up on a school 557 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 3: in practice and go and catch like five or ten fish. 558 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you doing? Like those are fish 559 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 3: that you're not gonna be able to catch during the tournament. 560 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: So I rarely even cast. If I see a big 561 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: group of fish in practice, I don't cast. 562 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: So you just mark and you trust that what you 563 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: were doing and seeing fish roll on it the same 564 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: thing's gonna happen. 565 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it takes five minutes to pull up 566 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: to a place a tournament and you could see if 567 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: they're biting or if they're there if they're not. I'll 568 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: even mark places that look good that don't even have 569 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: any fish on them, and I'll pull up in a 570 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: tournament fish them. 571 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: Who do you think is going to be the greatest 572 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: of all time in this decade? 573 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: Greatest of all time in this decade because. 574 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: It happens with everybody like you had Rick Klon, you 575 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: have Kevin Van dam things kind of transition that way. 576 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: Who do you think on tour is going to be 577 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: considered the best fishermen over the next ten to fifteen years? 578 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 3: Man, that's tough. There's a lot of really good ones. 579 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: Are there any that scare you? 580 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: Like you see them in the you see them on 581 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: the roster and you're like, damn, it's gonna be a 582 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: tough one against them. 583 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: I mean definitely, there's there's definitely a few. I mean 584 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: you see some of like the other series, like you 585 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: got the Dustin Connell and the Jacob Wheeler, but him 586 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: like in The Bass Masters, I would definitely say Trey 587 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: mckinnie's like, he's definitely scary man, Like, he's what nineteen 588 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: years yars old and he's already won a Blue Trophy 589 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: and Rookie of the Year and almost won AOI last year. 590 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: And he's really good. 591 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: You edged mount in your tournament win. 592 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's really good. I'm trying to think, like, 593 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 3: do you think that a lot of guys that are just. 594 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: You think that's going to become the head to head 595 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: matchups then, because that's one thing bass hasn't had in 596 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: the most recent years, is you haven't had a lot 597 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: of like the same guys getting into the top ten 598 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: who duke it out and you see it kind of 599 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: bounce back and forth. 600 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: I see that with some of the young guns that 601 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 2: are coming in. 602 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Trey being one of them, You being one of them, 603 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: Paul being one of them. 604 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: Definitely Paul too, Paul. 605 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys can really start to kind 606 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: of solidify a different tone in bass fishing. 607 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: It would be cool. I don't know. I don't think 608 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: about it like that. I just go out there and 609 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: try to catch some well. 610 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 2: Last Brock Moseley, who he. 611 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: Thought was going to be the greatest in the next decade, 612 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: and he said, Jay shakurt. 613 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 3: I, definitely that's that's definitely a good. 614 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: Why did your eyes get big when I mentioned Jay? 615 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: He's just he's leading AOI by a lot. But I've 616 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: always thought that he was an amazing fisherman. Like you 617 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: see his stats and what he's done over the last 618 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 3: couple of years, and he's kind of been like sneaking around, 619 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: like doing really well, but like he didn't win and 620 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: win a big tournament, and then last year he won 621 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: two events, two bass master events, and now this year 622 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: he's leading AOI, Like he's really good. 623 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you said he was sneaking around, because 624 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: that's the word that I use to describe him. 625 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: He's so sneaky. 626 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: He's the type of guy where he'll never let you 627 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: know what his next move is. But watching him, he's 628 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: extremely calculated. Yeah, And I don't think that's a ford 629 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: facing thing at all. 630 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 5: No. 631 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: I mean ford facing helps you in that aspect to 632 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: be more efficient on the water with targeting different pieces 633 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: of structure and figuring out what the fish are biting better. 634 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, you can tell like he's just a well 635 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: rounded fisherman. He had a really good event at the 636 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: Sabine River. But he's just he can catch him everywhere. 637 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: Obviously in his AOI that's it's showing that now. But 638 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: he's uh, and just a nice guy too. He's not 639 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 3: stand office. He'll talk to anybody that walks up to him. 640 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 3: So he's just a good guy, good fisherman, and he 641 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 3: definitely deserves it if he wins AI this year, because. 642 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: He's that's the best title to get, right, I think, so, 643 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: like it's cool to win a Blue Trophy, and I 644 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 4: think it's it's an ode to, you know, kind of 645 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: solidifying yourself. 646 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: But if you become Angler of the Year. 647 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're the best angler and you know in that 648 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: whole series, right. 649 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: You have been statistically the smoothest person when it came 650 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: to the tournaments that they put out, because it's hard 651 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: to compete on the lakes that you guys compete on. 652 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: It's very hard, especially when you go from this side 653 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: of the country to that side of the country and 654 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: it's completely different. You know, you go to so many 655 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 3: different places. Every single place we go to is dramatically different. 656 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: There's not a couple that are near the same. 657 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm really appreciated that you came in. You know, 658 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: you've you've had some really good success. You won three 659 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: high school tournaments national championships. 660 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: I shouldn't even say that you just won. 661 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: Three, because realistically you did three in a row, which 662 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: is hard to do. You did that with two different 663 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: two different partners. How difficult was something like that when 664 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: you're fishing with a different personality for two years compared 665 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: to somebody with a different personality of the next. 666 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I've always I think you did it. 667 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: With Logan too. You won well with Logan at Auburn, 668 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: different personality. 669 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: The first fishing partner I had was Grayson Morris that 670 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: I won the first one with, and we were good, 671 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: We were good buddies. But it was just, you know, 672 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I've always just surrounded my 673 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: self with fishermen my whole life, and I just I 674 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: feel like good fishermen bounce off good ideas with other fishermen, 675 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: like you know, good fishermen match well with the good fishermen, 676 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: And that's what I've just tried to surround myself. All 677 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: my friends have always been fishermen, and I don't ever 678 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 3: watch sports or anything like that anymore. All I do 679 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: is fish. All I do is watch fishing. I don't 680 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: care about watching anything else, but no, I think. And 681 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: then I fished with Hayden when I want we want 682 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: it the third year, and uh, Hayden's been one of 683 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: my best friends for years and years, and so it's 684 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: just really comfortable when you're fishing with somebody that you're 685 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: good friends with, just because you know their next move. 686 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: If if you're setting the hook this way, they know 687 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 3: to get out of the way and go that way. 688 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: And if they set the hook, you know to get 689 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: out of the way and grab the net. Like, it's 690 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: just mechanical when you fish with somebody that you're used to. 691 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of listeners that tournament fishing on 692 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: the weekends with their buddies and stuff. If you fish 693 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: with the person for a long enough time, like you 694 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: get comfortable fishing with them and adjusting to their styles 695 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: of fishing. So it's really fun. 696 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: So was it difficult for you to go from Grayson 697 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: that relationship, that style to Hayden. 698 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: I mean not really, especially back then in high school 699 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: we were kind of all fishing the same the same 700 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. We were just power fishing down the 701 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: banks and stuff like that, a little bit offshore, but 702 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 3: mostly we were just powerfish. So it basically set up 703 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: the same You. 704 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: Won a million dollars with Logan Parks in the Bass 705 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: Pro tournament that you guys did. I feel like that 706 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: was kind of the solidifier of how dominant you and 707 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: Logan individually and as a team really were. 708 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: That was a life changing tournament, definitely. I My dad 709 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: signed us up for the last Chance qualifier. He was like, 710 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: you guys, you guys want to sign up for this 711 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: last chance qualifier to get into this million dollar tournament. 712 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: We're like, yeah, I mean if because we were off 713 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: at a college tournament, and so he let us know 714 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: and we ended up signing up that night. But it 715 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: was like we didn't even we were out in different college. 716 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: I think we were at Lake Wilie and we ended 717 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: up going to that last Chance qualifier at bull Shoals 718 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: and ended up qualifying for the tournament. That was like 719 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: it was probably like I think it was a day 720 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: later or a day and a half later. The next 721 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: couple of days was the championship, and we ended up 722 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: qualifying for the championship in one and only having a 723 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: couple of days of practice. For the tournament and it 724 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: was surreal. Definitely. I Uh, it was life changing. I 725 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: ended up growing a relationship with bass Pro shops and 726 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: it helped me to this day for sure and set 727 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 3: me in Logan up to fish all the opens and 728 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: be you know, not having any stress with the financial stuff. 729 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: So it was amazing for us, both both of our 730 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: families to be able to to be able to follow 731 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: our dreams and make it to the profession level. Because 732 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: now we're both on the Elite series. So it's really cool. 733 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: What did he say to you after your tournament win? 734 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: He was pumped for sure. He stayed and came and 735 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: got pictures with me, and he was definitely pumped up. 736 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: I told him he was going to be next. 737 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: That's so cool to see that your friendship coming from 738 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: college and then working into the professional ranks. 739 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: That's what I'm telling you. 740 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: I just think that there's so many guys that are 741 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: in fishing now that it's like the six degrees of separation. 742 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: There's going to be really good matchups from here on out. 743 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be incredible. We've talked about 744 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: your career, We've talked about where you've come from. I 745 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: want you to fast forward, what does your life look 746 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: like after fishing? 747 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, you mean, like, what would I do 748 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: if I wasn't fishing? 749 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: Do you think about it? 750 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: The majority of guys that fish professionally, they get to 751 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: maybe fifty and then they just decide, Hey, look I'm 752 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: gonna chill or I'm. 753 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: Going to retire. Keat Reese is retiring this year. 754 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: Guys like Rick Klun very rare that could be dominant 755 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: in several decades of fishing. So I would want to 756 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: say that you could fish all the way up to 757 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: the age of Rick Klun, But realistically you may get 758 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: tired of wanting to do that run all the time 759 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: and chase different lakes. So what would you want to do. 760 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: Would you want to start your own fishing line? Would 761 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: you want to be tied in with a big sponsor 762 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: to where you can just be getting mailbox money off 763 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: of products and things like that. 764 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. I mean, 765 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 3: definitely something to do with fishing. If it's not working 766 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: for you know, doing my own thing with a fishing company, 767 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 3: then I'd probably just probably just move somewhere and fish 768 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: every single day. I probably and me and Paul and 769 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: Hayden will probably be all about sixty five, seventy, I 770 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: don't know, eighty years old. We're all probably just gonna 771 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: buy one house and have three beds in it and 772 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: just go to the Gunnersville every day. 773 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: It's the dream. 774 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 3: Do eat at Jacks at four point thirty in the morning. 775 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: You guys need to jump on and check out Tucker 776 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: Smith fishing on every social platform. 777 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: Follow him. He's an incredible fisherman. 778 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: You guys have obviously already heard about him, but it's 779 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: cool to get kind of the inside look at where 780 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: you came from and what your life is is looking 781 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: like right now. 782 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 2: Tucker, thank you, it's been fun.