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Speaker 3: Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Friday. It's the Bow Baschett Show

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Speaker 3: with my bass friend and dad Dot Dee Bischett today

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Speaker 3: Friday and at former bassist hair Metal Greg Bissonette and

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Speaker 3: at a Bishan Friese. I'm out of Baschett's that quickly,

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Speaker 3: Mike Harmon, I have petered out of Bischetts.

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Speaker 4: Just like that. Yeah, you know what I thought. I

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Speaker 4: had a run though.

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Speaker 5: Well, the fact that you got into multiple means you

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Speaker 5: are already one. And you got Greg Bissonette in part

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Speaker 5: of Ringo Stars All Star Band, so nicely done.

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Speaker 4: And Jacqueline Bissett.

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Speaker 3: I forgot about Jacqueline, but of course I got to

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Speaker 3: explained to millennials who Jacqueline Bissett is.

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Speaker 4: But okay, there we go. Okay, now I'm out. They've

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Speaker 4: seen her movies.

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Speaker 3: They just Josie Bissitt, Josie Bissitt from Melrose Place. Oh

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Speaker 3: and Charles in Charge. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: See Okay, maybe we follow each other like on Twitter

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Speaker 4: or something. Are you really wow, dude?

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Speaker 3: If this was the nineties and I was single, I

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Speaker 3: would I would completely overcome your your Twitter accounts so

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Speaker 3: I could meet her.

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Speaker 4: There you go. But it's not the nineties, and and

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Speaker 4: I'm married, and so you know, well, it's a swinging

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Speaker 4: Friday night. I mean, that's what it is. We got,

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Speaker 4: We got both. Today.

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Speaker 5: I had to send multiple takes of a video because

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Speaker 5: I kept cursing too much excited utterances, and Elijah's like, damn,

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Speaker 5: that's too far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a bridge too far, even for you, Mike Carmen.

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Speaker 3: So when I woke when I woke up today, right,

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Speaker 3: I always know when something big happens with one of

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Speaker 3: my teams because I wake up because I always turned

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Speaker 3: my phone off because so many people, my family just

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Speaker 3: you know, don't understand that.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, I forgot. I'm three hours ahead.

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Speaker 3: So I'm getting on a group family text at six

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Speaker 3: in the morning because so I always turned my phone off,

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Speaker 3: so I turned my phone on and it's I'm going, oh,

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Speaker 3: this is everybody who woke up this morning and found

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Speaker 3: out that Kyle Tucker is a Dodger, because that happened

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Speaker 3: late last night, right like right when we went on

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Speaker 3: so they're just finding out. And here come the ha

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Speaker 3: ha has And all I see from the first couple

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Speaker 3: of as you know, your text go and you just

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Speaker 3: see him as they they they as they as they

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Speaker 3: file in, I just see Bo Bo, and I go,

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Speaker 3: we got Bobaschett, Like right away, I knew It's like

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Speaker 3: all I needed to see was his name. His first day,

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Speaker 3: I said, we got Bobashett or Bo Jackson's coming out

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Speaker 3: two that we got bobaschev And my hands are cramping

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Speaker 3: And when I saw the deal, I sat back and

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Speaker 3: I said, we did better off the day after missing

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Speaker 3: and I thought, wow, now that's something that doesn't really happen.

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Speaker 3: We just kind of looked into that because I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what you tell any MLB team owner, fan, salary,

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Speaker 3: and player you'd rather have? Kyle Tucker who's terrific player right,

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Speaker 3: multiple All Star but didn't have a great year last year.

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Speaker 3: Gotta make sure he's healthy. Do you want Kyle Tucker

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Speaker 3: for that four years and sixty million a year because

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Speaker 3: it's going to cut into luxury tax and whatever changes

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Speaker 3: going to have to do something. The lockout is coming.

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Speaker 3: Or would you rather have Boba shed for three years

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Speaker 3: and one hundred million? Terrific player right? Really down year

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Speaker 3: If it doesn't, everybody moves on. You tell me which

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Speaker 5: Mike Carman well in the end the Tucker contract. After

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Speaker 5: two years, everybody can decide whether they like the world

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Speaker 5: the fact that it's a three year deal. Look, I'll

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Speaker 5: always take the shortstop. Yeah I wish he hit from

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Speaker 5: the left side, but that's okay. But I'll always take

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Speaker 5: there as well. But all that in in three years,

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Speaker 5: it resets. Everybody wins in this scenario because of the

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Speaker 5: short term deal. He gets paid pretty good, top of

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Speaker 5: so you're looking at your power prime and all of

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Speaker 5: New York, will team with Soto, and you aren't getting

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Speaker 5: all excited about the heart of your lineup reconstituted and

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Speaker 5: loaded for bear. Remember all the money that comes on

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Speaker 5: and off books for everybody that got all upset about

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Speaker 5: Kyle Tucker a night ago. But in three years you'all

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Speaker 5: reset and decide, hey, do we want to re up?

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Speaker 5: I mean a lot of folks say that they should

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Speaker 5: do this with the relationships. Contracts are usually three to

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Speaker 5: four years. I mean all of these things, let's reevaluate

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, you have so much flexibility. Look,

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Speaker 3: it's flexibility that's built into this one. Maybe you get

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Speaker 3: the guy stinks he's not out the out of sixty million.

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Speaker 4: He's staying, you're stuck like this. This is a much

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Speaker 3: I remember talking last night in the final hour of

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Speaker 3: are gonna panic. They're gonna panic and overpay. And we

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Speaker 3: said Boba Schett and for Cody Bellinger and other players,

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Speaker 3: I was stunned when I saw, Okay, what's the deal?

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Speaker 3: Three years and just over one hundred million in it?

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Speaker 4: Forty two. Wow, that's that's the deal. That's incredible.

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Speaker 3: That's incredible, and not only that we took him away

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Speaker 3: And Bryce Harper is being called just a good player

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Speaker 3: by his GM and they're losing players, They're losing relievers

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Speaker 3: the I mean, I don't I don't get this kind

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Speaker 4: To happen to the Jets, and and R. L.

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Speaker 3: Reese is going to decide, Hey, I'm going back to

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Speaker 3: At number two, like the Knicks, we're gonna find out.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson is taking some time away to go on

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna rehab my ankle.

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Speaker 3: Then, I mean, I know that this is too much

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Speaker 5: Else well, but at Jalen Brunson takes some time away.

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Speaker 5: As long as he's back by the middle of April,

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Speaker 5: ten seed. The Eastern Conference stinks at the back end,

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Speaker 5: those those seemings, you know, no matter what they do,

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Speaker 4: Their own way.

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Speaker 5: I mean they're trying as best they can, and it's

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Speaker 4: No, but like I.

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Speaker 5: Saw this come down and immediately just had to grumble, going,

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Speaker 5: we didn't even get twenty four hours of mocking you

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Speaker 5: those are things that we can all wish and hope for.

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Speaker 5: Those are where you get a little better off from

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Speaker 5: Kyle Tucker. But when you talk about the value of

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Speaker 5: a three year deal for a middle infielder with the

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Speaker 5: all Star pedigree, that you got four straight MVP votes

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Speaker 5: a guy who's really coming into his own And for

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know the funny thing is, you want

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Speaker 3: to really good. I almost gonna call you with this

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Speaker 3: So I so I get up, and I'm starting my

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Speaker 3: get coffee. Right, So I'm driving, I got my METS

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Speaker 3: hat on and listen to music. I'm Blair, and I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm stoked. I'm like, yeah, I feel like the sheriff, right,

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Speaker 3: I'm walking around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I get out of my way.

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Speaker 3: You guys have paid two hundred and forty million dollars

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Speaker 3: a Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 4: We got a guy just as good for half price. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I go in to get coffee, and I got

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Speaker 3: my METS hat on and and and the guy comes

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 3: I said yeah, And he goes, oh, don't see a

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Speaker 3: lot of those hats around here. And I said, you know,

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Speaker 3: I said, give me a break. I said, you know, what,

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Speaker 3: are you a big Dodger fan? Like I was just

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Speaker 3: kind of I go, what are you a Dodge fan?

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Speaker 3: He goes, no, I'm actually a white Sox fan. I said, oh,

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Speaker 3: my best friend is a white Sox fan. He goes

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Speaker 3: really go yeah, he's as miserable as you are.

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Speaker 3: And the guy said, but we got that big slugger

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Speaker 4: He goes yeah.

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Speaker 3: I said, but your team stinks. You have nothing to

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Speaker 3: worry about. You're gonna be bad for a long time.

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Speaker 3: The guy goes, you know, I'm making you your coffee, right.

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Speaker 3: I said, no, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

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Speaker 7: Oh okay, great, it's exciting, exciting, Mike, It's exciting Friday

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Speaker 3: The Jason Smith Show with My bas friend Mike car

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Speaker 3: We gave you our picks for this weekend in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: Does our next guest agree? Disagree? Who are the Jets

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Speaker 3: Answered by longtime NFL insider. He is the author of

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Speaker 3: what's happening?

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Speaker 6: Man to do? Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm ready, let's go.

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Speaker 4: The Jets, right, Yeah, I want to I want to throw.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's pretty that's quite possible. I doubt the Jets

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the Jets said, we'll see you next year.

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Speaker 5: Go get some more experience. You'll be ready to win

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Speaker 3: of gamesmanshipped now to hey, let's let the guys focus

436
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Speaker 3: on the game.

437
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Speaker 4: Looks like he's going to play.

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Speaker 3: I got a tough time seeing San Francisco winning this game.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think they have the horses, and Seattle's

440
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Speaker 3: defense was just teeing off on Perty a couple of

441
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Speaker 3: weeks ago. I don't know how you fix all of

442
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Speaker 3: that having a lesser team than you had when you

443
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Speaker 3: lost that game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I tend to agree with that, but that analysi

445
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Speaker 6: is pretty strong. But man, if Sam Donald has to

446
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Speaker 6: make a play, like because that game that they played

447
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Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago, if he was like, Hey,

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Speaker 6: Clinton Tubiak, do you want to let Sam Donald do anything?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 6: How about this?

451
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Speaker 9: No?

452
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Speaker 6: But Sam could know? But what if Sam don't know? No, no, no,

453
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Speaker 6: Sam's not doing anything in this game because he doesn't

454
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Speaker 6: need to. Yeah, so they yeah, they can get through

455
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 6: this game without Sam Darnal would have to make any big,

456
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Speaker 6: big plays because he didn't have to make any big

457
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Speaker 6: plays in the previous game. But yeah, but man, they

458
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 6: played so scared of their quarterback that you just you're

459
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Speaker 6: sitting there wondering, like when is this going to catch

460
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Speaker 6: up to them? Well, you know, is it going to

461
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Speaker 6: catch up time? And maybe that this is such a

462
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Speaker 6: mediocre year in the league, you know, like I'm referenced

463
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Speaker 6: earlier with Josh Allen, you know, maybe this is such

464
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Speaker 6: a mediocre year in the league that this is like

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Speaker 6: the year you get through sort of like when Tampa

466
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Speaker 6: Bay one is titled with Brad johnsoner quarterback or when

467
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Speaker 6: you know when Baltimore one would trend delfer like the

468
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Speaker 6: year was Sony or for even you know, like Philadelphia,

469
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Speaker 6: everything in the lined up. And now I think Nick

470
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 6: Foles got really hot and played great football during the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: So that's a little bit different scenario if he played

472
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Speaker 6: the best football of his entire career during that run.

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Speaker 6: But you know, there have been a few times in

474
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Speaker 6: the history of the league where you get through it

475
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Speaker 6: with a media per quarterback, and that's mostly because the

476
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Speaker 6: wrestle the league is is down.

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Speaker 5: Jake Ole, I've thought long and hard of how the

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Speaker 5: best ask this next question, But I'll be as concise

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Speaker 5: as I can. Bears Bears.

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Speaker 10: Called Iceman cometh if you had it, if you had

481
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Speaker 10: Ditka versus an iceman in a snow suit named Ditka,

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Speaker 10: I would think asman snowsuit Ditka fifty six, get twenty one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah I could. I could see that definitely all day.

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Speaker 6: I love mcveage. Oh the cold doesn't matter, Oh yeah

485
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Speaker 6: really yeah sure, yeah yeah yeah. When that throw, when

486
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 6: that little thing rolls up into your body cavity, when

487
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Speaker 6: it's that cold. Now, now it's bad, man, it's really bad.

488
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Speaker 6: It's it's terrible. That's what's gonna happen in this weekend.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be bad. That's gonna be bad.

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Speaker 4: So what what do you think?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Look, I we talked about this game a

492
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Speaker 3: few minutes ago. I know the weather is terrible, but

493
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Speaker 3: it does I just have a sneaking suspicion McVeigh is

494
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Speaker 3: gonna have it. Have a plan that's going to involve

495
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Speaker 3: a lot of running. They're not gonna throw the football

496
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Speaker 3: as much. They're gonna they're gonna bank on getting a

497
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Speaker 3: couple of turnovers from Caleb Williams, and they're gonna find

498
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Speaker 3: a way to escape and get to the NFC Championship.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what scenario you thinks when games are

500
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Speaker 6: like this. All I know is it's really fun. And yeah,

501
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 6: that scenario could play out, and it is a pretty

502
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Speaker 6: good one because you got a young quarterback in a

503
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Speaker 6: really big game, and you've got a team that's been

504
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Speaker 6: feasting on turnovers all season long and coming from behind

505
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Speaker 6: in games. This look this Bears team, I think we've

506
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 6: talked about before, is very similar to the last Bears

507
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Speaker 6: team that made it to the Super Bowl, with a

508
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Speaker 6: lot of comeback wins. The differences, like Caleb Williams can

509
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 6: really play, whereas Rex Rossmond could long term. So you

510
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Speaker 6: have this foundation to play. I'm not trying to make

511
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Speaker 6: fun of the Bears on that one. It's just you know,

512
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Speaker 6: Rex Rosmin was again, he gets you through it to

513
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Speaker 6: that point, and then they finally lost their team with

514
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Speaker 6: a much better quarterback who wasn't going to make mistakes

515
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Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl. And so I can see this

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Speaker 6: one where Matt Stafford is really smart, is not going

517
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Speaker 6: to make some kind of hate wire play. But Matt

518
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Speaker 6: Stafford does have as great a quarterback as he is.

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Speaker 6: He's had some nu coalition moments where the ball just

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Speaker 6: you know, like you're sitting there going wait a second,

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Speaker 6: you tickle. You know, you were a little bit too

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Speaker 6: brave maybe on that one. I'm not for what were

523
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Speaker 6: you trying to do there? There have been some times

524
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Speaker 6: like that. Now it's reduced as his career is going on,

525
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Speaker 6: but in these kind of elements like wow, I mean

526
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Speaker 6: I was at the Packers Giants game when Brett Farr

527
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Speaker 6: was just throwing balls all over the place and Eli

528
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Speaker 6: Manning was like, Okay, we'll get through this somehow. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 6: And Brett Farr was playing three flies up with his

530
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Speaker 6: buddies in the backyard and throwing the ball to the

531
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Speaker 6: to the other side all game long. So well, I

532
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 6: just don't know what to expect from this game. I

533
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 6: would tend to take the more experienced quarterback and the

534
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Speaker 6: more experienced coach, but I come back to look, I

535
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: grew up in Los Angeles. I don't like the cold.

536
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 6: Those guys don't like the cold. It's going to be

537
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 6: miserable for them. I don't care what mcfay says. You

538
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 6: know it's gonna it's it's brutal. It's just absolutely brutal

539
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Speaker 6: to play that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Good man.

541
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Speaker 5: It comes all the way back to Bears, all right.

542
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 5: Can the Houston defense score enough to win against New England?

543
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Speaker 6: Can the Houston defense score enough.

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Speaker 4: At least one one touchdown?

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Speaker 6: Aren't they?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

547
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: Look, Jay Cole I said I would pick the Texas

548
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Speaker 3: to win this game, but unfortunately I watched CJ.

549
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Speaker 4: Stroud play quarterback last week, so I can't do it.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, the the first time party is like

551
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 6: he didn't really have to play, did he. I mean

552
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 6: it's like I had to get through it. Yeah, like

553
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 6: they were gifted a game. There was a challenge and

554
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 6: I think that New England's up for this challenge. So yeah,

555
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 6: I don't like, I don't like what Houston is at

556
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 6: the moment, and I don't like for CJ. Stroud is

557
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 6: at his in his career. That doesn't mean I'm giving

558
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 6: up on CJ. Stroud right at the moment. I mean

559
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 6: they just they're they're they're just not in a really

560
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 6: functional place offensively right now. They're just there's no consistency there.

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Speaker 6: But I don't think they're ready for this. I think

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Speaker 6: that New England's you know, New England doesn't do things

563
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 6: to beat itself and they and they showed that against

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Speaker 6: the Chargers where they just went from a methodical game

565
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 6: and they said we're going to take away everything that

566
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Speaker 6: you want to do. We're going to put the product

567
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 6: for pressure on you, stifle you. It was that was

568
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Speaker 6: like that was a classic Belichickian type of games where

569
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Speaker 6: it's like, okay, we're going to this is not this

570
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 6: is not going to be close because we're gonna we're

571
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 6: going to take away everything from you, and you know

572
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Speaker 6: we're also not going to take chances either.

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Speaker 3: He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. He is

574
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: also looking for no, we'll do that night. We'll do

575
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Speaker 3: that next week. We had to get the We got

576
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: big games this weekend, Jason Cale, we got big games.

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Speaker 6: Well, okay, we got to the Steelers. Are you know

578
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 6: interviewing a guy named Kubiak that nobody expected that.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys name guys named Kubiak and Schuler are getting interviews.

580
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Speaker 4: It's nineteen eighty again. I mean it's everything is fine.

581
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Football just repeats himself. There you go.

582
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Speaker 3: Okay, games, We'll enjoy the game.

583
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Speaker 4: Brother, Yeah, he seems upset. We didn't have a chance

584
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: to talk about coaches. But you know, these pesky games

585
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: just getting away too much.

586
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Speaker 5: Mike Carmen, I'll tell you what, you know, the actual

587
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 5: playing in the games instead of you know, the guy's

588
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 5: long dormant and on vacation.

589
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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 3: what's happening man?

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 8: I wish I had the deal of you know, dari

601
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Speaker 8: and ment where you just sort of, you know, get

602
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Speaker 8: paid a little bit more at the last second and

603
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Speaker 8: move on. That seems pretty sweet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely sweet. Not if you're Duke, but that's

605
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Speaker 4: definitely sweet.

606
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Speaker 8: Well, you're the problem, like when do you you know?

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 8: It's just some kind of a wame way to put

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Speaker 8: it here. But like it's kind of like like a

610
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Speaker 8: fantasy football league. Sometimes we're like when there, like in

611
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Speaker 8: our league, there's a direct cutoff date or cutoff moment,

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Speaker 8: like an hour and a half before kickoff. Okay, so

613
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Speaker 8: then what happens when you know, eighty nine or ninety

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Speaker 8: one minutes before kickoff? Someone drops the guy that they

615
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 8: think other guys are gonna watch, you know, like like

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Speaker 8: when if you're going to have the cutoff moment and say, okay,

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00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 8: well the deadline is today? Well okay, so is it

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00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 8: today the deadline or not? You know, so like that's

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Speaker 8: all a pretty kosher you know, it's all part of

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Speaker 8: the deal. It just seems kind of wrong that, all right,

621
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Speaker 8: you know, seems like it's going to be Miami. It's

622
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Speaker 8: going to swoop in and take Darien Mensa. But like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: kind of thinks. But the part about this is like, look,

624
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Speaker 8: you know, Duke went and gave Menta a lot of

625
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Speaker 8: money to get him away from the portal and away

626
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Speaker 8: from Tulane, and now they're all mad that someone else

627
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Speaker 8: is offering him a lot of money and maybe a

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Speaker 8: little bit more to leave. It's kind of welcome to

629
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Speaker 8: the game, son, It's kind of what thing's played right now.

630
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Speaker 3: Wait, so you think it's going to be Miami, you

631
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Speaker 3: think that's where that's where he's at.

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Speaker 9: It seems like it seems like that's I mean, it's

633
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Speaker 9: if he's going in the last decond, it seems like

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Speaker 9: that would be the place because he's going to get

635
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 9: paid a lot of money to do this and he's

636
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Speaker 9: already the you know, it was never.

637
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Speaker 8: Official, but it was something about like four million to

638
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Speaker 8: play for Duke and he kind of you know, that's

639
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Speaker 8: what changed the whole market for Nico Yami Lieva and

640
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Speaker 8: you know for others, and if he's going to leave

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00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 8: Duke and Miami's desperate for a quarterback. It kind of

642
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Speaker 8: seems like that might fit.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I like this, So does that mean he's coming

644
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: in to run it back or rebuild from the Ashes

645
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: after they get crushed by Signetti and they were googling

646
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Speaker 5: him again.

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Speaker 8: I don't even know why they show up. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it's Signetti and all the signettiness that the you know

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Speaker 8: in India. Like, I let me ask you this, are

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Speaker 8: you guys? Are you guys that you're sitting in this

651
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 8: this matchup? Are you like do you have National Championship fever?

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Speaker 6: Like?

653
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Speaker 8: Is there you fired up for this game?

654
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: I am fired up?

655
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: Like like Kurt Signetti go to Chipotle every single day,

656
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: Tech every day.

657
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Speaker 8: That's awesome, isn't it?

658
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Speaker 2: Pete.

659
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Speaker 5: I don't know how much y'all have left after the

660
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Speaker 5: Bears Rams game, but yeah, whatever I got left pouring

661
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 5: into whatever defense Crystal Ball can throw at the Indiana

662
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 5: sink you joke, but that.

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Speaker 8: Really does suck. I mean, because like, honestly, if we have,

664
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Speaker 8: you know we're gonna have we have, We're gonna be

665
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 8: coming off of the divisional rounds and it's what all

666
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Speaker 8: sports talk radio is gonna want to talk about now.

667
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 8: The difference being that since ESPN has the National Championship,

668
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 8: it's gonna be wall the wall, Indiana versus Miami. But

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Speaker 8: the rest of the world is going to be talking

670
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Speaker 8: about whatever happens on Saturday and Sunday. You know, so

671
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Speaker 8: especially if like let's say we do get like, you know,

672
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Speaker 8: Bears versus like Niners, and you know, Patriots versus Bills

673
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Speaker 8: or whatever it turns out to be, you know, that's

674
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Speaker 8: gonna be the front and center talking. It's gonna be

675
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Speaker 8: oh yeah, and you know shift gears here, let's go

676
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 8: to the National Championship. They drag it out a little

677
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 8: bit too long, and this is kind of a byproduct

678
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Speaker 8: of that. Now it's it's a classic game, then everyone's

679
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 8: going to be like wow, and that's the all the

680
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Speaker 8: way's going to talk about with us of the week

681
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Speaker 8: if this, you know, is just a thriller. But I

682
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Speaker 8: hope so, I'm hoping it's going to be a good game.

683
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Speaker 8: But I just Indiana has a way of turning teams

684
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Speaker 8: into quivering bowl to go. So uh, let's let's see

685
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Speaker 8: how Miami shows up.

686
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Speaker 4: For see, here's the thing. Pete is. I do think

687
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Speaker 4: we're going to get a classic.

688
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Speaker 3: I think we're going to get a game that's a

689
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Speaker 3: lot like the Giants Bills, Super Bowl, the Norwood miss

690
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Speaker 3: Because Miami's defense is fast, it's physical. They're gonna come

691
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Speaker 3: in and they're going to take shots at Fernanda Mendoza

692
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Speaker 3: and try to make them uncomfortable. Right, Indiana's got a

693
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: great offense, but they've been a front running team for

694
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Speaker 3: a long time, especially coming off that game last week

695
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: where you get a pick six on the first play,

696
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Speaker 3: you do whatever you want to throwing the football, running

697
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Speaker 3: the football. Miami's defense is going to make it harder

698
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: for Indiana, and I can just see a couple of

699
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Speaker 3: those typical Miami thirteen play seventy yard eight and a

700
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: half minutes off the clock drives, it keeps Mendoza on

701
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Speaker 3: the bench where if it's a field touchdown, field goal

702
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, and I can see Miami pulling the upset

703
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: using that formula.

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Speaker 8: The only problem is I'm not there. And basically every

705
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 8: National championship I've been to has been awesome in the

706
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Speaker 8: playoff era, and every game I have not been at

707
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Speaker 8: I was supposed to go, but couldn't it the last second?

708
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Speaker 8: Every game I haven't been at it's stunk.

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Speaker 6: So there's that problem.

710
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Speaker 4: But if you tech.

711
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Speaker 5: Kerts, people need to rally together for three thousand dollars

712
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 5: for Pete to gift tickets.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, I've got I've got the credentials. The credentials

714
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Speaker 8: we worth. The problem. It's you know, various you know,

715
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Speaker 8: other aspects of this which I will not get into.

716
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Speaker 8: But you should be happy. You you've benefited from this

717
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Speaker 8: as much as anybody else. I didn't go with the

718
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Speaker 8: last second, very very very last second. I didn't go

719
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Speaker 8: to Michigan TCU so or Michigan Washington so okay, so

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Speaker 8: there was a orta Michigan TCU. I'm sorry too soon. No,

721
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Speaker 8: But to your point direct points, one of those things

722
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Speaker 8: that no one's done is run the ball religiously on Indiana.

723
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Speaker 8: It's like they everyone stops. And it's my biggest pet peeve.

724
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Speaker 8: It's a college thing, not a pro thing. You know,

725
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 8: you can go to teams and like there's certain teams

726
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 8: like Notre Dame who have just this twisted thing where

727
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 8: they're like one hundred and ninety five and one for

728
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 8: the last like whatever, how many twenty years whenever they

729
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 8: run the ball twenty five times or more, when didn't

730
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Speaker 8: they do it? They didn't run twenty five times or

731
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Speaker 8: more against Ohio State last year, or did against Northern Illinois,

732
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Speaker 8: or just like it's there was always these weird stats

733
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Speaker 8: like that, no one has run the ball like much

734
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Speaker 8: on Indiana. I said, the most anybody's done it this

735
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 8: year is ten State ran on only thirty three times.

736
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Speaker 8: Like Alabama.

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Speaker 6: You's got this.

738
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Speaker 8: Big, massive group of guys up front and NFL line,

739
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Speaker 8: you're only running it what seventeen times.

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Speaker 6: It's like they stop now.

741
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Speaker 8: I kind of get why Oregon didn't because didn't have

742
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Speaker 8: any running backs available. But if you're Miami to your

743
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 8: direct point, even if you're getting stuffed right away, and

744
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 8: they did get stuffed by Ole Miss, but they ran

745
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 8: the ball a good jillion times, just keep pounding away.

746
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 8: Just eventually that NFL offensive line's gonna start to break through.

747
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 8: Because it's it's so funny.

748
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Speaker 4: In my little sewing.

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Speaker 8: Circle of guys, everyone's sitting thinking, oh, well, we're gonna

750
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Speaker 8: get another Indiana blowout, and because they've just been too good,

751
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 8: too technically good, but in the back of their minds.

752
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Speaker 8: Everyone's kind of said the same thing you're saying. It's like, yeah,

753
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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: You know, this Miami.

755
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 8: Team's got the guys. So as long as Carson Beck

756
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 8: doesn't start throwing interceptions like he did against Louisville and SMU. Yeah,

757
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Speaker 8: I'm hoping. Maybe I'm wish captain this, but I think

758
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 8: it's going to be a pretty good game.

759
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Speaker 5: Pete, were you surprised that Dante Moore said I'm going

760
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 5: back to school Rodney Dangerfield style.

761
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, I am, like, and that's a red flag. Like

762
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 8: I'm in the Bill Parcells camp where if you want

763
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 8: to be an NFL player, go be an NFL player.

764
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Speaker 8: What are you doing hanging around with a college kids? Like,

765
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 8: I get it, you know, he wants to improve and

766
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 8: all that kind of stuff. I find it kind of

767
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 8: hilarious that, you know, he wants to come back to

768
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 8: college and you know, there's a long season. He needs a break.

769
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 6: He's going to take a vacation.

770
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Speaker 8: Meanwhile, classes started at Oregon like two weeks ago, so

771
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 8: I don't think he's you know, diving into the class

772
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 8: work on this. I think he wants to get better,

773
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Speaker 8: and I get it, and I guess where he wants

774
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 8: to be. You know, maybe he doesn't really just does

775
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 8: not want to be a Jet or maybe he thinks

776
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Speaker 8: he can be the number one pick next year. But

777
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 8: for whatever reason, Okay, great, you know that's fine, But

778
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 8: I don't know, just go if you're that good, if

779
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 8: you're going to be a top five pick. And I

780
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 8: still think even after the performance against Indiana, once you

781
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 8: get him into workouts, he's a little more of a

782
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 8: projection than Mendoza, but he could have been number one overall.

783
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 8: Definitely number two maybe, So if you're that good, don't

784
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 8: just go in the league, I guess. But look, coming

785
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 8: back to all of a sudden makes you know, Oregon

786
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 8: that much more powerful coming in the next year, and

787
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 8: it's certainly a bigger deal where you know, for all

788
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 8: the people talking, well this is the start of the

789
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 8: dynasty for Indiana they have the number one transfer portal

790
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 8: and all that kind of stuff. Well, or you know,

791
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 8: Ohio State's not quitting football, Michigan's going to be better.

792
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, who knows what we're getting?

793
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 6: Got it?

794
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 8: Teams like we go Wisconsin and Illinois and a better

795
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 8: u c l A going forward. USC at the best

796
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 8: recruiting class in the country, and now Oregon gets back

797
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 8: a guy who might be the number two pick in

798
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 8: the draft next year after our Schmanning goes one. So

799
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 8: it's going to be a everyone's thinking that's the Big

800
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 8: ten is going to take a hit now after these

801
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 8: you know, this massive run, Now that's not gonna happen.

802
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: Now let me let me throw the shatch for Dante

803
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: more pete, because this is a different way to think

804
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: of him going back to school. I get not wanting

805
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: to be a Jet and sitting there at number two,

806
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: you know, I understand that, But what are the chances

807
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: that Dante Moore, hey, you know whatever it was, got

808
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: feedback the Jets said, yeah, we might not take you

809
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: at number two.

810
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 4: We don't know if you're ready, and you could slide.

811
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Speaker 3: And I didn't get the feedback from that he needed

812
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: from the rest of the league, and he could have

813
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Speaker 3: wind up being a guy that we thought was going

814
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Speaker 3: to go number two, but would slide through the first

815
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Speaker 3: round because teams are nervous about it because he doesn't

816
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: have the starts and all all the things that you

817
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 3: just talked about. What are the odds that he didn't

818
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: get the feedback from the league he wanted and that's

819
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Speaker 3: why he went back to school.

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Speaker 8: Isn't like he's going to be this year Shador Sanders

821
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 8: and keep float dropping down? The problem though, is no.

822
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: I mean like he would drop down to the end

823
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Speaker 3: of the first round like he would he would take

824
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Speaker 3: the second, third or fourth.

825
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, but like who I mean kid club Nick No,

826
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Speaker 8: Drew Aller No. I mean, I guess Ty Simpson is

827
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 8: I'm not buying that. But the Ty Simpson's your guy now,

828
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Speaker 8: I mean, like he's the guy who could go number

829
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Speaker 8: two to the Jets only because in the Quarterback Star

830
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 8: Draft that's it. But that's possible. He could absolutely have

831
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 8: done that to me. Though again, if you were a

832
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 8: quarterback with the potential to be some franchise quarterback, I

833
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 8: still I just can't get past it. Like justin Herbert

834
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Speaker 8: literally made more money than the Mountain West. You know,

835
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Speaker 8: It's like, you know, Joe Burrow is making more money

836
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Speaker 8: than Conference USA and meteor rites, Like, you got to

837
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 8: get to that second contract as soon as possible. Now

838
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 8: you're talking, you know, real money, amigo money, You're talking

839
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Speaker 8: you know, you're talking to fifty five million a year deal.

840
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Speaker 8: So it's the fact that you can get there if

841
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 8: you are good enough. It doesn't really matter where you go.

842
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 8: But I get it. I mean, he's to only twenty,

843
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 8: and I get that he wants to progress and get

844
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 8: better and do all that. But that's a that's a

845
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 8: pretty big risk to take because you're never sure to

846
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 8: be as quite as hot as you are right now.

847
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Speaker 8: I mean just remember Carton Beck was the presumptive number

848
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Speaker 8: one overall pick a couple of years ago, and Garrett Nusmeyer, well,

849
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Speaker 8: he's going to be the number one pick. You know, guys,

850
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 8: rise up. You know there's going to be another Mendoza

851
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 8: out there coming that we don't see coming. So when

852
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 8: you when you have your chance, you kind of got

853
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 8: to take it when it comes to the drafting world.

854
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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen

855
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Speaker 3: live from our Miami, Indiana headquarters.

856
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Speaker 4: Forget about ESPN. We're the headquarters there. At least we

857
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Speaker 4: will be on the right.

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00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, no, no, no, no, we're in We're in

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Speaker 3: our Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 8: Peat well, the weather, the weather is definitely better, and

861
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Speaker 8: you know you have to play a local right there.

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Speaker 3: Which is yeah, hey, if you're ever in town, Pete,

863
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Speaker 3: I'll play a loco on us.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I've I've been. I've met Steck, Steve Harvey, Nikki

865
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Speaker 8: six know they're I'm a big fan of the spot.

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Speaker 8: Fox Sports Studios area.

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Speaker 6: And in LA.

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Speaker 8: The weather strong. You know right now that is in

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Speaker 8: Miamiami weather. It's what's been pretty lousy for the next

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Speaker 8: few days.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's gonna be better than it is in Chicago

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Speaker 3: one Sunday night, that's for sure too.

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Speaker 6: That's better. You know, I'm.

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Speaker 8: Not to pivot off here, but how can it. I

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Speaker 8: know Matthew Stafford and you know Devanca Adams have played

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Speaker 8: in their professionals, they reduced all these guys use the

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Speaker 8: cold weather. But how do you not get It's gonna

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Speaker 8: be seventy nine degrees in La on Sunday and it's

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Speaker 8: going to be like two here pretty much for the

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Speaker 8: rest of the week. So I've got to imagine that's

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Speaker 8: gonna matter some, but it's not gonna be two degrees

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Speaker 8: in Miami.

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Speaker 3: So beat great stuff as always, have a great weekend.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you after the game on Monday night.

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Speaker 8: Thereter, guys,