1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now moved the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: What's up everybody, d J. Bucky back here. Moved the 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: sticks as we get close to the college football playoff 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: as well as the NFL's final regular season week, It's 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: getting interesting, Buck, How you doing, man' I'm great. You 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: talked about interesting. Interesting is everything that's going on in 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: football right now. Uh, it's such a great time. DJ. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: We talked about this time being important for us as 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: evaluated because but we didn't really have the normal bowl season, 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: but we do have the college football playoffs, and uh, 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: we're firm believers that these games, you know, they carry, 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: they have a little more weight on the syllabus, and 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: so we want to see our teams and players play 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: in these college football playoffs. And so we already can 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: talk about Trevor Lawrence or whatever, but man, this game, 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: these series of games potentially for Justin Fields. Oh man, 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: he's got more on the line than anybody. I think 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: he has more on the line than anybody else, and 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: I think is an opportunity, opportunity for him to potend 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: to rewrite a narrative about him and his game, particularly 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: when he has played Uh, not great against some of 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: these defenses that he's facing the big time. I mean, 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: I think the number one QB spot has sailed. I 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: think that ship sailed. But I think the number two 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: is he's he's fighting it off. It's him and Zach Wilson, Duking, Duking, 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: And I didn't trade lance. I don't want to discount 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: trade lance. But I think Zach Wilson is the hot name. 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: And you you're seeing this this buzz about him, particularly 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: coming off of how they played the show that he 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: put on in the Bowl game, where he looked like 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: the game was very easy to him. He is a 32 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: natural thrower, He has the athleticism that you look for, 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: and I think that people are going to look at 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: him and say, hey, you know what, he is a 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: very viable option as the number two quarterback in this 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: draft class because he not only has all the things 37 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: that we always want from a pastor, but he also 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: has the athleticism. He also has the ability to run 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: and do some of those zone repower read things that 40 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 1: we're seeing, and he has the swagger in the moxi. 41 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: And so I actually think Justin Fields has to clue 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: was the ground on Zack Wilson, because Zack Wilson has 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: played so well this season that I think Justin Fields 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: has to put on a show. He has to be 45 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: a five star performer in this game against Clemson, and 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: we'll see if he can pull it out the bag 47 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: because he hasn't dazzled Um the last couple of times 48 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: we saw Northwestern Indiana. He has to put on one 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: of those showstopping performances. Yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: be fun to watch, man Um looking forward to those games. 51 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: We'll get into a little bit more of that on 52 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: the college side here in just a second. We're also 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: gonna talk about some of these playoff games. But want 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: to start here at the top where we left off 55 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: on the previous episode, because you tease it a little 56 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: bit talking about the Dwayne Haskins situation, him being released 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: and the lesson that you can learn from it. So 58 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: don't you pick up where he left off. Yeah, So 59 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins fift overall pick Um Look twenty nineteen class. 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like yesterday he was he was drafted. 61 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: And here's the thing about Dwayne Haskins, and before we 62 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: can talk about quarterbacks and the physical part of it, 63 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: I think it's important that we let the viewers into 64 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: like how how internally the quarterback is viewed. The quarterback 65 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: is viewed as the CEO of the operation. Outside of 66 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: the head coach and general manager. The quarterback is the 67 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: most important person. His voice, his actions, everything resonates. He 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: is representative of the franchise every time he walks out, 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: not only on the field, but what he does in public. 70 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: And so when we talk about that, and we're not 71 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: prevy to some of the things that teams are in 72 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: terms of being able to sit down and really dig 73 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: into the background, talk to the player over and over again, 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: and really get a sense of how much he really 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: wants to put in. But I will say this about 76 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and the quarterbacks that succeed. The quarterbacks that 77 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: are the best are the ones that are the hardest 78 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: workers on top of being the most talented, Like they 79 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: are the first one in, the last one out. They 80 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: don't take Tuesdays off. There are no off days for 81 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback. When you're a quarterback in the National Football League, 82 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: there are no off days, and they're long hours and 83 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: you're sacrificing a lot of things to be successful and 84 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm sitting across from you. As a scout, my job 85 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: is to figure out do you really have that in you? 86 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Like you can tell me one thing, but do you 87 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: really have that ability to do all the stuff that 88 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: is necessary to be the franchise quarterback over and over 89 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: and over again when you're the quarterback of a bad 90 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: football team, are you willing to make those sacrifices because 91 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: you have to do all of that stuff just to 92 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: have a chance of being successful. It doesn't guarantee success, 93 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: but just to have a chance. And I think, as 94 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: we talked about in that last episode, we talked about 95 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Tatiss and his love for the game and going and 96 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: playing winter ball, my quarterback, my quarterback has to do 97 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: the same stuff. He has to be willing to do 98 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: the same stuff, do all the dirty stuff to give 99 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: himself a chance to be successful. And I think what 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: I've learned Brady, think about Tom Brady buck with his 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: shoulder pads on the beach when he's on vacation, Think like, 102 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: that's what it is, d Jack. And And let's think 103 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: about like like Cam Newton going to New England and 104 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: it hasn't worked out, and people are taking him to 105 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: task because he hasn't played well, he hasn't played up 106 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: to what he's physically broke. But listening to him talk 107 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: about the routine we saw when you watch the game 108 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: and talked about he gets up, he's over at the 109 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: facility for thirty five o'clock, he doesn't go to sleep 110 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: to eleven thirty. He hasn't seen his kids in three 111 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: months or whatever, and he's talking about Man, it's hard 112 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: to put in all this work and not get the 113 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: results that you want. But that is just an example 114 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: of the work that a starting quarterback to give a 115 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: chance in just to have a chance of being successful. 116 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: And I just think it's really important even in doing 117 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: it from our vantage point on the media side, Man, 118 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: can we dig into it? Can we get enough? Can 119 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: we talk to enough people that can represent what these 120 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: prospects are at quarterback to feel good saying, hey, I'm 121 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: a rubber stamping because I know this guy is not 122 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: only the talent that we talked about, but he has 123 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: the inside stuff the intangibles that are necessary to be 124 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: very very six us will in this league. That's why 125 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: again we can try and I try, you know, we 126 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: get taking a task all the time about what how 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: we're we rank these guys coming into the draft process, 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: and we try I feel like we we give the 129 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: same speech every year. We can evaluate what we see 130 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: on the tape. In this profession, unless you're inside the 131 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: league circle and you have access to these kids, like 132 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: you need to have access to them and to those 133 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: around them to get the information, you're flying blind man. 134 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: Because if we're with the team, let me give people 135 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of a peek behind the curtain. I'm 136 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: gonna go spend you know, multiple visits with these players 137 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: over an hour apiece and and like one of them, 138 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit down and go, Okay, let's start. Uh, 139 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: this is you had you played Arizona week one the 140 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: college football season. Let's let's start on you know, Saturday 141 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: night after you finished the previous or if it's week two, 142 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: after after previous week's game. Saturday night, what are you doing? Okay? 143 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Walk through it? You're watching it? Do you do anything? 144 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: You just go out to dinner? Can you go? Okay? 145 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Sunday morning? What time you wake up? What's your routine? 146 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: What are you doing for treatment? What are you doing? 147 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: Take like, walk me through every minute of your week. 148 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: I want to know what your preparation has looked like 149 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: we can't do that on the media side of things. 150 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Now we can't do it. But I would give an 151 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: example because remember, I think we took Joe Burrow through 152 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: that process, and I think Joe Burrow walked us through 153 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: what his preparation was. He talked about, well, I'm taking 154 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: online classes, so I'm able to just really live at 155 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: the facility. I'm able to come in here, I'm able 156 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: to go do my treatment, do whatever football obligations that 157 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm able to really live in the film room and 158 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: really study and digest and dissect all of those other 159 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: things that I need to do to prepare um. You 160 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: then talk to other people, Well, who are some of 161 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: the guys that you've solicited as your mentors to kind 162 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: of help you along the way. Have you reached out 163 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: to anybody, What did you learn from them in terms 164 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: of preparing that stuff really really matters? And then to 165 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: go further, because you talked about being able to sit 166 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: down with the prospect like we would if we were scouts. 167 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: She said, you wuld sit down with him a couple 168 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: of times throughout the course of the process. But you 169 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: know the other thing that we would do DJ. We 170 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: would go and we were dig up their high school 171 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: coach and talked to the high school coach, were talking 172 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: to their high school guidance counselor, We were talked to 173 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: some other administrators in the building. In high school, we 174 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: would do the same thing at the collegiate level, academic counselors. 175 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: People that are around them, what are they like, how 176 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: do they carry themselves? When did they show up in class? 177 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: What are their grades? Like? What do they do? I 178 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: use Justin Herbert like people kind of laugh, right because 179 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: now everybody wants to jump onto Justin Herbert train. Well 180 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: I knew, No, it wasn't like that. We had this conversation. 181 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: We both had some concerns and we paused a little 182 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: bit about man, I don't know this and that. But 183 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: then the pro day DJ I was like, man, like, 184 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, like typically we would be really excited about 185 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: a guy who has a four oh and a very 186 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: difficult and challenging degree major, who also was a three 187 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: sport athlete in high school, who also signed up to 188 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: go to a four and eight team and turned them 189 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: around to be a Rose Bowl champion, Like, those are 190 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: the things that we talk about. He had adversity along 191 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: the way and worked through it. Um, he wasn't playing 192 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: necessarily his best his junior so he goes back his 193 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: senior year and then you dig into it and so 194 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: now you're like, okay, I see it. And then as 195 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: you told me the story, he found out five minutes 196 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: before kickoff. Oh, by the way, you're the starter after 197 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: the coin toss. What yeah, get in and go play. 198 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: And now you're looking at him and he breaks the 199 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: Ricky record for touchdowns. I think it it changes, or 200 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: maybe it reaffirms what we should look should be looking 201 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: for in the quarterback. Yes, the talent is one thing, 202 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: but the other stuff matters. And now DJ because we 203 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: talked to Daniel Jones in that draft, and we did 204 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the three sixty and we went behind the scenes and 205 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: we talked to his mom and his high school coach 206 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: and all that, and everybody say like, he may not, 207 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: he may not figured out, but he's gonna try like 208 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: the Dickens to get it right. And so the reason 209 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: why Daniel Jones can exist with the Giants, and it 210 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: may not look perfect, it is because everybody in the 211 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: franchise at least knows that he isn't invested in the 212 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: process of winning as they are, and so you give 213 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: those guys every opportunity to turn those things around, as 214 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: opposed to someone who may be like, oh, you know, 215 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: it's a hobby, it's not my four time gig. Like 216 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: I like it, but I don't love it. Yeah, Like 217 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: it's too hard. It's too hard to win in this 218 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: league to have someone like that as your CEO. Well, 219 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: I think that we need to distinguish between guys who 220 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: like and guys who love right when we talk about 221 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: the game, and I think back, I heard this. Somebody 222 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: gave a talk on marriage one time and it said 223 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: there's a difference between being able to live with someone 224 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: and not being able to live without someone. That is 225 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: absolutely true. And I'm like, that's it, man, because it's 226 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: like live with someone, okay, that can work. Like we 227 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: can we can exist, we can co exist. That can work. 228 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: But not like, man, you take this away from me, 229 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I mean, that's that would crush 230 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: me if you took this away. I can't live without this. 231 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: And there you know of those quarterbacks are like if 232 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: you take the game away from them, man, I'm not 233 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you don't want to be you know, 234 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: so uh uh, you know. So we we're saying, we're 235 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: saying in relative terms. In relative terms, I see myself 236 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: working as a salesman, you know what I mean, Like 237 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: this is this is everything to me and I can't 238 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: imagine that's ever being taken away from me, and I'm 239 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: gonna do whatever I can to protect it. That, to 240 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: me is the kind of commitment that you need. And 241 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: that just so everyone understands, quarterbacks are hill to a 242 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: different standard than everybody else on the team. And so 243 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: when we can look at some guys who can go 244 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: and do like the brand building and some of the 245 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: other stuff, and they can be out and doing all 246 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: the other stuff as position players, like that's great, but 247 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: that's not the same level of expectation that is put 248 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: on them as opposed to the quarterback. And everyone said, well, 249 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: why is that that's not fair? Well, it's the quarterback. 250 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: The quarterback is the most important position in football, is 251 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: the most important position on the team, and they have 252 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: to make sure that they treat their position with reverence. 253 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: And if you don't respect the position like that, like 254 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: we we can't we can't rock with you, we can't 255 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: ride with you. As our QB one and I think 256 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: that is what we're saying. And I think, now this 257 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: is what potentially can happen. And I'll say this, like 258 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: Justin Fields will get a little bit of the backlash 259 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: under the way In Haskins thing. Some of that is 260 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: due to their higher states, and and and and so like, 261 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: I just think it's important that what we do in 262 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: our business and what we should always do, is we 263 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: grade each individual based on who they are, not based 264 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: on all that other stuff. And I think that is 265 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: going to be important because they're gonna be some lazy 266 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: takes and narratives that go out about that. And I 267 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: don't think that is necessarily fair to just the Fields 268 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: of anybody else who comes behind those guys that are 269 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: higher state. But I think it's important that there's gonna 270 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: be a height and awareness of how much do you 271 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: love it? Do you really love it? And how important 272 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: is it to you? I will say for those guys 273 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: that came back because Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence both 274 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: at the opportunity to opt out and not play, I 275 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: think that speaks volumes about their love of the game. 276 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: In their teammates, I want I want to just I 277 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: want to finish that thought, I mean, interrupt their buck. 278 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just the thoughts going through my head 279 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: here because I know we both love this documentary so much, 280 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: so I want to just go back in and role 281 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: play it real quick, because I'm gonna give you the 282 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: line of the trainer and you can give me the 283 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's response, They just lose. They just lose a 284 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: painful series. In the postseason, the trainers getting ready to 285 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: go on a little bit of vacation after the Game's 286 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: getting his plans together as Hey, Mike, just give me 287 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: a heads up man, when you want to start working 288 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: out again. When should we get together? And Michael Jordan's said, what, 289 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you say? Tomorrow? Tomorrow? Tomorrow? 290 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: But I think that's serious, like that, Oh yeah, like that. 291 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: That's different, man, That's just different and and like and 292 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: that that's to obviously be the greatest basketball player of 293 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: all time, took that type of commitment. Um, but to 294 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: play the quarterback position, it's the closest thing we have 295 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: to that. Like you, that guy has to be more 296 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: committed than any boy else in your football team. It 297 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: has to be. And so I would say this, Um, 298 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: especially giving the reverence to the late grade Kobe Bryant, Like, 299 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: we're looking for people who have the Momba mentality, right, 300 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: It's an obsession. It's an obsession to play the game 301 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: and play the game at a high level. You talked 302 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: about it is one thing to live with it. It's 303 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: another thing to be like, I can't live without it. 304 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Like that's how it has to be. And we can 305 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: talk about these quarterbacks and when you look at like 306 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: man Drew Brees has eleven and a puncture lump, but 307 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: he couldn't wait to get back onto the field. Like 308 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: that's the level of commitment that you're talking about. Tom 309 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: Brady in his forties, when he has all the money 310 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: in the world, all the things in the world, supermodel wife, family, like, 311 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: every reason to be done with it. But here he is. 312 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: You talk about being on the beach throwing the ball 313 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: in his paths. That's I mean, that's how it has 314 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: to be. DJ. You have to be obsessed with it. 315 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: It has to be the thing about it. And I'm 316 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: looking at um. Mark Brady put in in the comments 317 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Look, I don't have to do this. It 318 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: is who I am and that is it. I want 319 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: that person be like, no, no, no, no, I'm the 320 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: QB one. This is what it's about. And so I 321 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: think that's the lesson that I will learn from. And 322 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Dwayne Haskins can't turn it around, 323 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that he can't, but I'm saying all 324 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: the optics and the narratives and stuff, he is going 325 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: to have to work as hard as he has ever 326 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: worked to get back some of what was lost when 327 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: he was let go from the Washington football team. And 328 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: we will see really how much he really really loves 329 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: it now that he's down and out. Yep, that's very true. 330 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna give you the list of these 331 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: games in the a f C. Just pick one. If 332 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: there's one that jumps out here that you're intrigued by. 333 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: It's weird because some teams are gonna be sitting guys. 334 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: You know, I've already heard that Mason Rudolph's gonna started 335 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, So, uh, Steelers, Brown's, Ravens, Bengals, Dolphins, Bills, Jags, Colts, Titans, Texans, 336 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: any of those, any of those gets your interests there. 337 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: The Browns, the Browns, get my interests right, because this 338 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: is gonna be a difficult game. It's gonna be a 339 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: challenging game for the Cleveland Browns. UM coming off the 340 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: loss to the Jets, understanding what's at stake, They're playing 341 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: a rival that has really kicked them around, and even 342 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: though the backups will be on the field, the backups 343 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: will see this as an opportunity for them to play. 344 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: And Mason Rudolph being the starter, you don't get big Ben, 345 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: are you mature enough to take care of business when 346 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: you couldn't take care of business the previous week? And 347 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: so I'm interested to see how that goes. I'm looking 348 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: forward to seeing how Baker Mayfield responds. And I'm also 349 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing how Kevin Stefanski handles this. He 350 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: got sideways because he didn't have a score wide receivers 351 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: and they threw the ball around the yard obviously more 352 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: than you would anticipate giving that situation. How did the 353 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: Browns handle the pressure that will be on them? Because 354 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: DJ I can say this, UM, going back to nine 355 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: when I was the Jacksman Jaguars, we just needed to 356 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: beat the Atlanta Falcons to get into the playoffs and 357 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: we're going on a six game run. We have won 358 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: a ton of games, and we had backed ourselves into 359 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: all we had to do is win and we're in. Yeah. 360 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: The press shop that you feel in that game agains 361 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: the team that has really nothing to play for is different. 362 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: How did the Browns handling the pressure having to win 363 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: to get in. I can go back to the last 364 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: time the Browns had double digit wins because I was 365 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: there in two thousand and seven, um, and there was 366 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: a ten and six team Cleveland Browns did not make 367 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: the postseason. And the reason they didn't make the we 368 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: didn't make the postseasons because we lost to a terrible 369 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: Bengals team. And I want to say it was let 370 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: me look up the exact I think it was the 371 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: second to last week at the season. Yes, uh, let 372 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: me see here. We lost to the Bengals nineteen to 373 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: fourteen in the in the second to last game of 374 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: the year. And they had they were terrible. They had 375 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to play for the Bengal. They they were 376 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: a they were six and nine or they were five 377 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: and nine going into that game. The Bengals were and 378 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: just completely laid an egg and it would just slept 379 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: walks through the game, had everything that they think about. 380 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: The Browns hadn't done anything since they come back in 381 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: This is a chance to do something um and didn't 382 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: get it done. So and inside the division it's just weird. Man. 383 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: You can say it looks like a cupcake, but it 384 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: never ends up like that, and it never ends up 385 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: like that, and so you have to have an extreme 386 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: amount of focus and maturity to be able to go 387 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: and do it. And I think for the Browns, I 388 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: think they learn their lesson last week against the Jets 389 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: and hopefully they can take those lessons and apply them 390 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: accordingly against the Pittsburgh Stills for them to get in, 391 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: because obviously, I mean, you'd like to see them get 392 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: into the mix. This is a team that hasn't been 393 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs in a minute, and I think their 394 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: team that could be problematic four teams if they get in, 395 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: just because of the running game and some of those things. 396 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: But as as we were learning the more we were 397 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: around the league, you have to earn what you get 398 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: in this league, and so they're going to have to 399 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: earn their way into the postseason tournament. Yeah, so we'll 400 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: see if the Browns can get that done. We touched 401 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: on a little bit there at the top. We've got Alabama, 402 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, We've got Clemson, Ohio State, Um, Notre Dame. 403 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Notre Dame has got a lot of 404 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: NFL players, and I'm probably like everybody else, I believe 405 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: they're probably gonna get their was blown off just because 406 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: Alabama's got too much firepower. Um, but there are gonna 407 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: be it's gonna be a great tape to watch. It's 408 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a great tape to watch for all the 409 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: NFL players are gonna see that game. Yeah, I'm hoping 410 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: what happens for Notre Dame is I'm hoping that, um, 411 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: because they hear all the conversation that everyone kind of 412 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: expects them to get blown out in the playoffs because unfortunately, 413 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: like that's what's happened. Like they played tough teams in 414 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: the playoff, and when you're in the playoff, you're dealing 415 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: with one of the Big Four. I mean, that's that's 416 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: what it is. And the Alabama game isn't a great 417 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: matchup for them, But um, I'm looking to see where 418 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: they're able to stack up when it comes to this 419 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: measuring state because this goes all the way back to 420 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: the two thousand twelve National Championship game where Brian Kelly 421 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: said that they had to change the recruiting model and 422 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: how they built their team based on the way that 423 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: they were hammered by Alabama in that game. And so 424 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: let's just see what it looks like some many years later. 425 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: How had they closed the gap at all when it 426 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: comes to being able to compete against those teams. Yeah, 427 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: it'll be interested to watch that one. Then Clemson Ohio State. 428 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: We already said Justin Field has got more on the 429 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: line than anybody else. Um, you know, I look at 430 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: that Ohio State team, that the guy I want to 431 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: keep an eye on, a Shawn Wade who has not 432 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: played that great, A lot a lot expected of him 433 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: coming into this season. You get tested against this Clemson 434 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: passing games. So that'll be fun to watch, yeah, DJ, 435 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: because I think the transition and I know sometimes this 436 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: gets lost, particularly in the war room, where we we 437 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: just kind of think anybody can be a nickel corner 438 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: as opposed to an outside corner, two completely different job descriptions. 439 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: And Sean Wad maybe a guy that is better suited 440 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: to play inside one is his comfort level to the 441 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: quickness that he has. The short airy quickness is different. 442 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: You're also typically are dealing with a different animal on 443 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: the inside, maybe not necessarily a bigger, more physical guy, 444 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: maybe a quick guy. And he's able to shadow and 445 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: the physical challenges kind of work in his favor, whereas 446 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: on the outside sometimes, man, you deal with those big 447 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: monsters that can move you around and get you off 448 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: the spot. There's a different um set of techniques that 449 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: are required. He hasn't made the transition well. And so 450 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: he is a guy that was highly regardless, highly thought 451 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: of coming into the year. And so now, um, I 452 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: look at some of these other corners, and by the way, 453 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: I did do a little corner study, and I did see, 454 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: um this thing. I looked at j C. Horn closely, 455 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: I can't see eignment. Um look, man, he's he's He's 456 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: a son. J C. Horne is the son of a 457 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: former teammate of mind, Joe Horn. We were together in 458 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: Kansas City, and interesting everyone would think about Joe Horn 459 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: being the wide receiver. I know that Joe Horn was 460 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: also a defensive back. In Kansi they practice meant defensive back, 461 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: and maybe he shared some of those things that he 462 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: learned in the individual with his son, because when I 463 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: look at his son, his son is really complete in 464 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: terms of when I watch him. I think the one 465 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: thing to divide it because typically cornerbacks kind of come 466 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: in two categories. There to shut down variety or that 467 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: the ball hawk variety meaning shutdown guys are typically knows 468 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: and those they can press, they do a great job 469 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: putting their hands, They're physical, they do things. Your ball 470 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: hawks are typically guys they like to play from off. 471 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: They can vision include the quarterback or whatever. J C 472 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: is a little different because he can do a little 473 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: bit of everything. He him go up and challenge you. 474 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: He can play off. He is very explosive in terms 475 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: of getting to the break point. And I think he 476 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: is a very physical tackler. I think that is very 477 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: very impressive. The game against Alvin is one that that 478 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: shows up he men, he plays and so he's a 479 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: really good player. But I think what's unique this year 480 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: in the cornerback class the number of bloodlines and sons 481 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: Elijah Molden, Sante Samuel Jr. Past certain the second um. 482 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys that are that are 483 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: hoping to carry on the carry the family business. We 484 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: gotta get tray off the diamond, man, We get tray 485 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: off the diamond thrown back there in the secondary. Let's go. 486 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: He wants no parts of it. He thinks is he 487 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: thinks it's a little it's a little weird that he's 488 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: he's a smart one. He's on the he's on the 489 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: baseball diamond. He's smarter than we are. Trey is contend 490 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: to stay out the in the outfield with his double 491 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: set of batting gloves and spending stunflower seeds and all 492 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: that other stuff and talking about myself. But I do 493 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: think it's interesting. And I had a chance to go 494 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: back and look at Caleb Farley. I think I think 495 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: because out of sight, out of mind, you can tend 496 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: to forget how good a players. I went back and 497 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: actually looked at the notes that I wrote on him 498 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: from a little last year, like the preseason study, and 499 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you know, like this is a good player. 500 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: He has instincts. I still believe he's more of a 501 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: guy that is probably better for me, kind of like 502 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: the Xavier Rhodes comparison. I think Xavier Rose has been 503 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: really good in Indianapolis system because now he can play 504 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: some man but like some zones, some eyes, some visions, 505 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: and physicality, some tackling. I think he has a lot 506 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: of that, and I think he's a very very solid player. 507 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to break down all these quarterbacks. 508 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: I think this class is very very I think it's 509 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: very good. I don't know if it has like that 510 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: that top five player, but I think it is really 511 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: loaded with first round guys that you feel great about 512 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: if you pull the card. Yeah, that's why I'm hoping. 513 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: You know, Look, we'll see what happens. We assume that 514 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: in Alabama will win. If they do, let's let's get 515 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: a chance to see Patsirtain get up against the white outs. 516 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: He would see and whoever comes out of fun that'll 517 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 1: be Flider. Oh yes, yeah, we'll see that. We'll see him. 518 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add before we jump out 519 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: of here, buck Now, I said, Oh, I think DJ 520 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: is really important. I think we should pay attention to 521 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: the running backs. I think um in the playoff, look 522 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: at the running backs. Travis and ten people talk about 523 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: na Naja Harris has been getting some attention. Let's look 524 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: at those guys and see where they stack up. Because uh, 525 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: we it's easy to fall in love with the quarterbacks 526 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: and pass catches. These two, these running backs that we 527 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: could see and this thing also, uh who was a 528 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: mastertigue but also came up. Who's the guy Trey Sermon 529 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: that came up from Ohio State really played big in 530 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship game. Just look at some of 531 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: these guys and see any of these guys kind of 532 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: stand out of pop when we get a chance to 533 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: barely put our eyes on them. You know how much, um, 534 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: you know how much I love Josh Jacobs and I 535 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: had a big grade on Josh Jacobs and and he's 536 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: done a great job. Pro bowler. I believe this year 537 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: I want to see a Pro Bowl player. I like 538 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: Naja better. So well, we can talk about that because 539 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: I I like him, and I will say, he just 540 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: catches the heck out of it. Man. He hasn't even 541 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: scratched the surface in terms of how he can catch 542 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: the rock out the backfield. He is is uncommon to 543 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: see a big guy that can run routes like he can. 544 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: He can run. He's a route runner. He's different. It 545 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: would be exciting to talk about him as we get 546 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: closer to the process reminds me a lot of Matt Forte. 547 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: He's not as fast as Matt, but that's exactly who 548 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: he is. That is a good cop, That is a 549 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: great cop because Matt Forte being a big guy that 550 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: could catch the ball and run routes. That is a 551 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: great comparison Matt Forte and Naga Harris. Yeah, well look 552 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: forward to those games. We'll have you covered here on 553 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: the recap once we get a chance to watch him. 554 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for us today. I want 555 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: to wish you guys all a happy new year here 556 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: and with afford to catching up because soon here on, 557 00:25:46,560 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: move the sticks, we'll see then without a got work 558 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: to move thout