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Widen report says, Now, of course, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.280 we basically already knew this, but it's a report from 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:58.160 investigative reporter Jason Leopold over at Bloomberg, who says that 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.360 Deutsche Bank failed to promptly report to US authorities more 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.920 than two hundred and fifty million dollars a quarter of 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.640 a billion dollars in suspicious transactions tied to Jeffrey Epstein, 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.640 including funds used to pay women in Russia and other 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:17.959 Eastern European countries, according to a new report from Ron Wyden, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.960 now that report itself is really long and really dense. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:23.800 In fact, this is the last element. We can toss 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:25.920 this up on the screen. This is going to be 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.800 a D three. Widen, after giving this to Jason Leopold, 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:35.039 released this full it's nearly one hundred page report going 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:39.800 through exactly what they discovered and Widen's team rights. The 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.600 investigation revealed how major compliance failures at several Wall Street 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.200 banks enabled Epstein for years by failing to report or 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.880 choosing not to report his suspicious financial transactions to federal 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:54.040 law enforcement. These banks allowed Epstein to send cash payments 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.360 and wire transfers to his victims, friends, and collaborators around 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.000 the world. The bankers who needed to be asking questions 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.640 didn't ask them. Jeffrey Epstein's crimes were hiding in plane sight. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.640 Widing goes on to say they found quote significant evidence 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.040 that JP Morgan Chase. Deutsche Bank of America violated federal 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.919 anti money laundering laws by failing to screen and report 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:20.399 Epstein's suspicious financial transactions in a timely manner. They went 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.480 through records that were at the Treasury Department. You may 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.840 actually remember Widen very publicly going through some of those records, 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.680 I think it was last year, and internal bank records 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.840 that showed top executives at major banks were aware of 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.880 Epstein's suspicious financial activity for years, but withheld information from 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:41.040 the government and protected Epstein from federal scrutiny. So there 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:42.680 are a couple of things going on there, first of all, 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.160 not properly screening Crystal, and second of all then withholding 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:51.919 information from the government, failing to report information to the government, 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.800 And Widen points out they failed to conduct appropriate due 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.040 diligence on more than one hundred and seventy million dollars 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:02.240 in payments to Epstein from Leon Black. They say the 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.040 documents show that even after JP Morgan formally terminated Epstein 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.760 as a client, which people may remember is like a 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.880 story involved in exactly this conversation, due to human trafficking concerns, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.280 the bank still waited years to report his activity to 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.560 regulators and top bankers eagerly continued to work with him 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.600 informally through other channels where he could continue to be 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.320 a source of referrals for other ultra wealthy clients. So, 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.400 christ I think the big picture here was already known 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.480 that essentially a lot of these banks were in bed 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.519 with Jeffrey Epstein, and we're looking the other way, failing 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.240 to report information to the government, failing to do their 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.440 due diligence as required by law and by decent human beings, 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.840 of course, with some of these transactions. But what Widen's 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.560 doing here, I think, is really putting some meat on 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:50.240 the bones of what was already broadly known. This is 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:51.600 a very big deal. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.160 Yeah, No, I mean this follow the money piece is 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.840 extremely important because it gives us a glimpse into how 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.160 this all, how this whole network operated, and how it 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.480 was able to persist for so long. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:04.400 Yeah. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.920 Bank of America they reported they're one hundred and seventy 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:11.120 million dollars in Epstein related transactions connected to Leon Block Black, 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.360 but they did so five to seven years after they 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.720 took place. The bank said some of those transactions had 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:23.520 quote no apparent economic business or lawful purpose, you know, 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.120 The other question here is whether there should be criminal 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.800 charges or some sort of charges filed against those who 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.720 were involved in these decisions, because banks are under a 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:36.599 legal obligation to report this type of suspicious financial activity. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:41.680 So they appear to have failed in meeting those legal obligations. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.719 So someone should look into if something could be done 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.360 there after the fact. And so you see the way 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.839 the network operated though. I mean, number one, all of 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.520 these banks, they're making too much money with Epstein, so 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.880 and he's not only from his own transactions, but also 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.279 he would bring in Elon Musk for a meeting, he 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.320 would bring in Israeli officials for meetings. He would try 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.280 to bring in high net worth individuals to these various banks. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.760 So he was a golden goose in terms of client 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.480 development and relationships. So they were making too much money. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.920 And then some of these people had direct personal entanglements. 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.800 You know, there's all kinds of very disturbing emails between 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:24.760 Leon Black and Jeffrey Epstein that would are highly suggestive 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.039 of some quite disturbing activity that they may have been 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.159 partaking in. So that's the way that this whole thing 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.560 would operate. And if he got a couple people in 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:38.080 high places at these institutions, who were you know who 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.560 he had some sort of black mail material, some sort 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.120 of a personal relationship with, then he could get his 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.760 way and he could encourage them to turn the other cheek. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.240 And they were highly incentivized to do so anyway, because 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:49.480 of the money that was being made. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:49.920 Right. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.760 And remember, jess Daley is all over the Epstein files, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.719 and particularly in his capacity at JP Morgan. Obviously he 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.280 was the CEO of Barclays resigned Epstein problems back in 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.760 twenty twenty one, but he was at JP Morgan for 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.839 like what three decades. Refers to his friendship with Epstein 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:11.479 as quote unquote profound, calls him family in the emails 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:16.200 that were released recently. Melanie Stansbury, Democrat from New Mexico, 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.800 has said, we have email documentation that in twenty ten 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.039 Staley was requesting and interacting with Jeffrey Epstein to procure 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.719 women that he had sexual encounters with. And when he 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.680 was asked in the committee hearing that they had at 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.640 the time what happened and to describe those encounters, he 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.400 could not recall. So Staley is, like I said, all over 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.200 the Epstein files. Some of these other guys are all 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.680 over the Epstein files. Remember JP Morgan did settle what 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.680 three hundred million dollars, some three hundred million dollars back 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.560 in twenty twenty three with Epstein's victims. But that two 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.480 hundred million dollar lawsuit. Interestingly enough, isn't that the number. 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:54.719 That's the number of that's the Deutsche Bank in Jason 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.440 Leopold's report based on the Widen report, that's just the 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.719 suspicious transactions that Deutsche failed to promptly report to US authoria. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.880 It's just a cool quarter of a billion dollars. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:05.880 Yeah, it's nothing in. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:07.920 That world, Crystal. It's nothing to worry about it at all. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:09.479 A quarter of a billion dollars. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:10.480 Yeah. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.760 Well, we've also we've got not only got a high 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.480 finance story here, we've also got a media story. We 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.800 can put this next piece up on the screen. So 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:23.400 Widen apparently was interviewed about this whole investigation back in 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:28.680 March by then sixty minutes correspondent Sharon Alfonsi for a 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.240 segment the news program was reporting about Wall Street Banks 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.600 and the US Virgin Islands government's relationship with Epstein. Two 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:39.200 months later, CBS News fired Alphonsi after she publicly criticized 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.400 their leadership and Barry Weiss's editorial decisions involving a different segment, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.840 she reported neither the Widen interview nor that broader Epstein's 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.800 story has aired. Spokesperson for CBS News confirmed that Alfonsi 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.560 had interviewed Widen for potential segment in March, but said 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.480 the story did not come together for airing during the 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.880 Sixty Minute season that concluded in May. This bookesperson would 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.960 not comment on any plans for the program's next season. So, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:10.000 just to put that all together for you, sixty Minutes 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.560 had recorded an interview with Widen on exactly these financial 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.680 potential crimes and certainly cover up of the Epstein relationship 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.880 and suspicious transactions. Not only did they spike the segment, 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:28.200 but they fired the correspondent who conducted the interview. So 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.480 pretty extraordinary revelations here about what is going on behind 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.760 the scenes at CBS News. Because, you know, if you're 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.040 interested in doing real journalism, if you're interested and also 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:43.600 a topic that the public has great interest in, this 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.959 seems like a prime opportunity for you to dig in 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.000 and you know, show what was going on here. But 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.200 they decided that this was not worth their time. 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:53.680 Interesting, Yeah, we'll see. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.880 I mean I went and checked the archives on CBS News, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.120 not sixty minutes yesterday, because minunderstanding is that sixty and 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:04.760 it's kind of operates as its own premiere product within 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.640 CBS News, and CBS does have one of the best 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:12.520 reporters on Epstein, Beat Rutnik, who published that great report. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.880 This was before Barry Wise took over the network analyzing 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.920 the security footage from the cell, and he's continued to 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:24.760 do excellent, I think, really challenging reporting on Epstein. But 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.920 this is a sign, obviously now that sixty minutes is 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.760 a place to be watched. I did go back and 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.240 look at the sixty minutes archives recently, not a ton 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.160 of Epstein coverage. Obviously there once a week, but just 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.720 in the last year or so, they haven't done a 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.800 ton over at sixty minutes on Epstein. But CBS at 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:46.760 least does have a reporter that seems to still be 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.040 on the beat a lot to be doing what they're doing, Crystal. 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.040 It's a sign, though, to keep an eye on what's happening, 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.160 no question about that, because there are a lot of 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.680 people who have convinced themselves that can get away with. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.079 I mean it was ABC News, right, it was Amy 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.320 Robock at ABC News, who I think was James O'Keefe 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.320 got video of her saying that the network squashed her 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.360 Epstein reporting, and I think she said I had it. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.040 She was like, I had all of this years before 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.760 some of it blew up into public media. So it's 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:20.120 it's definitely not beyond these networks to come in and 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.760 try to put their thumb on the scale for people 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:23.320 in their orbit. 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:24.480 Yeah. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:28.000 No, they didn't want to compromise their access to the 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.320 Royal family in advance of wedding or whatever was going. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:32.000 At the time. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:36.160 Yeah, I can't can't have that so sorry, sorry victims, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:40.120 Sorry world who doesn't want to continue to have a 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.959 pedophile canbal have massive power in our system. We got 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.600 to cover the Royal wedding, so that's more going to 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:47.200 take precedence. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.160 Yeah, it would hardly be surprising if a network was 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.600 putting its sum on the scale to downplay or suppress 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.280 any of this reporting. But we'll continue, obviously to keep 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.080 an eye on CBS News as we have been doing 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:03.719 so Chris. Unfortunately, we have another abuse scandal to talk 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.640 about today, in the case of Max Miller. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.080 So we have been tracking the political fallout and alleged 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:17.280 abuse allegations against Republican Representative Max Miller, who gave a 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:23.040 I guess fiery speech rebuttal of against these allegations on Sunday, 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.120 doubling down staying in the race. Today is actually the 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.400 deadline to replace him on the ballot, so it doesn't 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.440 look like that's happening. The only Republican who has said 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.320 that he should no longer be in Congress is his 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.679 own father in law, Senator Bernie Moreno. Max Miller went 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.640 on Jake Tapper Show yesterday for a combative interview. We'll 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.840 show you some of those highlights, but Emily, you got 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.520 a glimpse into some of the local political valance here 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.160 and how Republican voters in his district in Ohio are 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.000 processing these allegations. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.800 Yeah, you know. So, I host a show right after 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.040 Megan Kelly and Serious exem every day where we just 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.520 take callers who have reaction to news of the day. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.760 And a guy from Max Miller's district in Ohio said 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.200 he was from the district, called in yesterday Trump voter 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.080 and give us a little bit of reaction how he's 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.040 personally thinking about how the community is thinking about whether 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.000 or not they'll go and actually vote for Miller amidst 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.200 these very very ugly allegations, and they continue to mount, 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.880 by the way, just the way that his campaign and 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.839 potentially his House office that's another scandal in the making, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.480 have handled these allegations. It's stacking up. So we could 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.040 take a listen here. I believe his name was George 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.280 in Ohio. How he described his reaction in the district 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.000 yesterday on Serious XM. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:45.319 I calling because Max Miller is actually my congressman, and 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.600 oh wow, I don't think that I can actually vote 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:53.160 for this guy. Yeah, he's a strange dude. A lot 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.199 of stuff comes out in the local media that doesn't 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.040 make the national news. He's had troubles before like this, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.880 and he really hasn't been a great congressman. He's basically 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.959 just been a rubber stamp for whatever Trump wants. I mean, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.640 I've been a Trump voter, but I'm not too enamored 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.880 with him at this point. But I hope the Republican 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.280 Party finds someone new within a day to put up 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.440 because I don't think this guy will win. His opponent 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.680 is pretty strong. I don't know exactly that I would 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.199 vote for his opponent either. I mean, just sit this 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.720 race out home, because Ohio's in deep trouble with the 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.679 Republican Party here. But that was my point. I don't 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.640 think I can vote for this Max Miller guy. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.120 Pretty interesting and you know, as comments not only about 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.160 Max Miller, like listen, even before this, we had some 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.520 issues with this duties just not doing a great job, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.839 but also saying that the Ohio, Ohio as a whole, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.480 is having some issues with Republican leadership and you know, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.760 him being a Trump voter and being dissatisfied with that. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.920 And I do think Ohio is one of the states 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.760 Iowa is really been screwed by the Trump agenda, but 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.280 I do think Ohio is a state that has really 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.760 suffered from some of the choices that Trump has made, 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.520 both economically and obviously in terms of the war, etc. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:05.839 Yeah. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.400 I had another woman from Ohio calling a couple of 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:12.120 weeks ago and say she thinks Republicans are cooked in Ohio, 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.559 that it's actually looking like Cherry Brown is going to win, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:18.160 and that Ohio is going to go Democrat in the 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:22.360 fall because of the economy and the Iran war in particular. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.000 So there's something happening on the ground, there's no question 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.520 about it. And Max Miller is right now. Apparently even 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.080 the president according to an Axios report that leaked somehow, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.840 maybe this is Trump World trying to undermine Max Miller 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.400 without publicly saying he should step down. Trump doesn't want 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.720 to do that if you're a loyal Trump guy like 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.440 Max Miller is, which the caller also mentioned by the way, 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.520 a Trump voter's saying he's been a rubber stamp for 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.600 Trump and not pushed back enough. Kind of interesting. But 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:54.640 on a call, Trump told Miller that quote, things aren't 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:59.320 looking good and said his reelection would be tough. According 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:04.640 to three sources on this story, in access from Alex 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.480 Eisenstatt and Mark Capudo about a conversation Trump had with 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.640 Max Miller on Monday night, and Christal, we have video 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.840 of Max Miller going on CNN to defend himself in 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:20.720 front of Jake Tapper just yesterday. He's tripling down on 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:21.280 all of this. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.240 Yeah, quite defiant and just as a reminder here to 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.120 set up this exchange. You know, the most of many 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.880 of the allegations have come from his ex wife, including 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.360 she claims that he threw scalding water at her, that 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.600 he held a gun to her head, that there was 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.680 other physical violence and threats. She suspects that he may 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:46.680 have broken their young daughter's collarbone. So really very serious 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.760 allegations here. But there are two other women who've also 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.840 alleged that he abused them. One is Stephanie Grisham, who 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.200 was in the first Trump White House, who said, you know, 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.640 she was constantly afraid of him, that he threw her 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:03.480 up against the wall and slapped her when she suspected 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.600 him of cheating on her. And then there was a 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.520 girl at the time in high school who alleges that 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.040 he threw her down the stairs and what she described 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.320 as being one of the darkest days of her life. So, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:20.080 in any case, Tapper confronts Max Miller with these allegations, 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.760 effectively saying, don't you realize how hard it is for 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.960 us to accept all of your dismissals when you have 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.760 three separate women who are telling very similar stories about 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.840 your behavior towards them. Let's go ahead and take a 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.920 listen to how he handled that exchange. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.560 There are now three women, three women who have accused 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.720 you of violent behavior. Politico published a report in twenty 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.280 twenty one that says, when you were in high school, 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:44.960 you quote pushed a girl out of the dorm of 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.200 his room and she fell down some stairs after he 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.920 became enraged when she resisted his attempts to touch her, 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.240 according to three people who were there and many more 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.200 who heard about the incident in the aftermath. Now you 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.040 deny that, but the woman in question told Mother Jones 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.400 reporter Abby Vasulis just days ago that it had happened 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.480 and was quote one of the more traumatic nights of 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:02.880 her life. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.280 Now that I'd love the whole on individual to go 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.520 on the record, because I. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.760 Hold on because I'm not done with the list of 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:11.720 women that have accused you of violence. Then there is 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.040 former White House Press secretary Okay, you were young. Then 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.920 there's a former White House Press Secretary, Stephanie Grisham, who 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.120 was your ex girlfriend. She accused you of being abusive 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.320 and having a violent streak. She wrote in her book, quote, 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.560 I could do nothing right by him. I would wake 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.880 up every morning shake it with shaking with anxiety about 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.240 his mood that day. I had seen his temper before 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:30.159 and it had scared me. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:30.880 Unquote. 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.679 She has recently filed a temporary restraining order against you 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.199 in a defamation case. And now there are these claims 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.760 from your ex wife, Emily Marino, And I guess the 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.359 question is, are all three of these women who don't 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.119 know each other, are all three of them lying? 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:44.320 Yes? 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.639 It's very easy. And I can tell you why. Every 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.560 single time and people have asked me, you know, what 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.479 are you going to do? Are you gonna drop out 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.320 of this race? Are you going to resign? You know, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.320 are you going to get out before the deadline? And 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.600 my answer to you, Jake, is no. And I can 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.359 tell you why. Twenty sixteen, when President Donald J. Trump 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.400 faced the most extreme allegations in the world that hit 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.919 him day after day after day, and people in the 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.359 media have very much like yourself and others said that 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.920 he would have no shot at winning, that he should 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.160 not be the president of the United States. But guess 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.919 what he stayed in and he was resilient. And what 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.840 the American people can see is that they can see 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.320 that somebody is fighting who is resilient, and that is 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.439 a quality that the American people cherish. And so for 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.480 no second am I going to sit here and continue 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:33.720 to be debased by false and baseless allegations and be 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.760 pushed out of his seat. I have worked so hard 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.800 to represent and done a terrific job for our community. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.240 You know my record in Congress on the ways and 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.000 means and Hou's foreign affairs and bringing back money for 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:47.159 our district and standing up for the Ukrainian people and 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.960 also voting to protect Obamacare during this entire time. This 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.240 is why no one's attacking me on my policy, Jake, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:54.040 because they can't. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:55.720 I've been a good legislator. 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.760 All they're trying to do is create rumor mills without evidence. 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.960 It's all hearsay, do you all hear say? 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.800 Kind of interesting the issues he chooses to highlight there, 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.439 which are all sort of like democratic coded issues. Standing 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.800 up for the people of Ukraine and protecting Obamacare gives 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.120 you a sense of the kind of populist area in 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:17.040 Ohio that he represents. But Emily, what did you make 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.639 of his appeal there too? I'm like Trump. You know, 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.920 Trump had all these allegations against him, and what people 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.440 love about him is that he stood strong and this 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.040 is the quality that the American people admire. Because it 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.320 seems to me that that is very much pitched at 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:31.160 Trump himself. 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:32.879 I was just going to say, yeah, my reaction is 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.639 that is directly to the audience of one Donald J. Trump. 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:40.080 He obviously was coming off of a conversation he had 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.480 with Trump over the phone the night before, at least 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.480 according to Axios, and Trump was telling him it's gonna 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.239 be tough. So now you have Max Miller making a 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:54.360 pitch that sounds just directly tailored to the one person, 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.640 Donald Trump, but the actually tying this back to that call. 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.960 What's interesting is, I'm not sure that's really enough to 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.080 have just the Trump stamp of approval. I'm not sure 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.840 that's really enough right now for Max Miller. I don't 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.480 know that that can carry you anymore where you have 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:16.400 a weak economy, a war that continues to rage on 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.040 Trump is not on the ballot itself, So I don't 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.720 actually even know that maintaining Trump's support, I mean, obviously 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.240 that allows him to maintain the support of kind of 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.719 the official party apparatus for now, because Trump is the 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.359 leader of the Republican Party, so it all comes downstream 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.800 of that. But I just I'm not sure that it's 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.199 as big as a dub as he thinks it is. 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.160 And Crystal just in the kind of subjective sense, he's 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:48.160 being accused of emotional instability, like at the very very least, 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.040 we have tapes that are coming out and all of 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.760