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Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Tom Holman

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Speaker 1: started off the day bright and early eight am Eastern

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Speaker 1: seven am in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: As a guy who used to get up early for radio,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt

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Speaker 1: buck when I was on live at five am Central

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Speaker 1: every day for five years, nobody in media elsewhere was awake.

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Speaker 1: I have been on radio row for five am starts

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Speaker 1: when I was the only guy there.

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Speaker 2: Media hates getting up.

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Speaker 1: Early in the morning, So I actually loved Tom Holman

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Speaker 1: starting off the day and setting the agenda for the

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Speaker 1: entire day with what I thought was an incredibly fantastic

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Speaker 1: performance at his press conference. And we're going to get

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Speaker 1: into that. President Trump right now is having a live

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Speaker 1: cabinet meeting. It has been going for about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Judging by how these cabinet meetings have gone in the past,

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Speaker 1: he may be talking for a couple of hours. The

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Speaker 1: most transparent and open administration that we have ever seen,

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Speaker 1: answering questions on every object under the sun. We will

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Speaker 1: discuss that when we as we are continuing to move

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Speaker 1: through the program. But Buck, I would say major blockbuster

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Speaker 1: revelations on Alex Pretty, the hero nurse who was alleged

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Speaker 1: to have been completely killed with no idea. It was

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Speaker 1: just a quiet standby protester. And this video that came

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Speaker 1: out was it is echoed across the entire Internet such

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Speaker 1: that I think it's hard for reasonable people who are

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Speaker 1: not in complete left wing silos to not say, my goodness,

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Speaker 1: this guy.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: I encourage you if you haven't seen the video, I

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Speaker 1: understand a lot of you may not be active on

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Speaker 1: social media.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: About ten days before the shooting, this pretty character was

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Speaker 1: out on the street screaming, I don't even think we

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Speaker 1: can play the video because there's so many curse words

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Speaker 1: in it. At ICE agents to basically fight him, with

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Speaker 1: a lot of expletives included. He then spits on them

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Speaker 1: and he kicks out the tail light of the vehicle

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Speaker 1: that they are in. The ICE agents get out of

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Speaker 1: the vehicle, they tackle him, and this, to me is

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Speaker 1: a good example of toxic empathy because one billion percent

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Speaker 1: the guy should have been arrested for attacking the vehicle,

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Speaker 1: for assault on ICE officials.

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Speaker 2: For his behavior.

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Speaker 1: This was not a mentally stable individual, and anybody who

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Speaker 1: watches this is going to have a hard time believing.

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Speaker 1: And I want to play this, Anna Navarro cut seventeen

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Speaker 1: on CNN. This whole narrative much like the mom who

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Speaker 1: just dropped her kids off story. It's completely gone up

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Speaker 1: in smoke. But here was Anna Navarro saying, this is

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Speaker 1: the perfect guy, the guy you want to date your daughter,

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Speaker 1: the man you want your son to be. This is

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Speaker 1: embarrassing for her in the wake of this latest video,

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Speaker 1: Cut seventeen.

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Speaker 3: They killed the wrong guy, right because this is the

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Speaker 3: perfect guy. Alex Petty is the guy you would want

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Speaker 3: to date your daughter, the guy you'd want your son

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Speaker 3: to grow up to be a decent human being, who

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Speaker 3: was serving humanity, serving sick veterans. Who is you know,

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Speaker 3: there is nothing that has been said about that man

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Speaker 3: that isn't wonderful. And so they can't malign him. They

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Speaker 3: can't malign him because we have the videos.

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Speaker 1: All right, Buck, this video came out. I know you've

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Speaker 1: been reacting to it. I've been reacting to it. My

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Speaker 1: hope is my mother in law staying with us because

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Speaker 1: her power is still out.

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Speaker 2: She said.

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Speaker 1: Nobody who needs to see this video is going to

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Speaker 1: see it, So there may be wisdom from my mother

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Speaker 1: in law there. But what were your thoughts when you

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Speaker 1: saw this video of hero nurse Alex pretty well?

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Speaker 4: First off, on the CNN side of this, if you

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Speaker 4: think that she's going to be embarrassed by the truth,

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Speaker 4: you don't understand the nature of CNN. As I put

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Speaker 4: on X, this is her job. Her job is to

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Speaker 4: lie to make the audience believe whatever they want to believe.

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Speaker 4: So she did her job. There's no shame in lying

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Speaker 4: at CNN as long as their pleasant lies that libs

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Speaker 2: That is the gig.

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Speaker 4: And as for watching this video, it's interesting, Clay, because

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Speaker 4: we were trying to be as we always try to be,

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Speaker 4: about all of this. And yet yesterday several times I

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Speaker 4: alone a lunatic, and that was quite obvious even from

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Speaker 4: just the initial exchange. Now, while you have Anna Navarro

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Speaker 4: and you have MSNBC pretending that he's much more handsome

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Speaker 4: than he was, which by the way, shouldn't matter at all.

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Speaker 4: But it matters to that audience because they're creating a

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Speaker 4: this is myth making they are engaged in. But then

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Speaker 4: you turn on this program and we're saying, well, the

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Speaker 4: guy's clearly a lunatic, and then video comes out showing yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's clearly a lunatic. But we were saying that before

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Speaker 4: the video came out, because we actually do analysis here

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Speaker 4: and use deductive reasoning and think things through and care

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Speaker 4: about being right and be honest with you all the time.

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Speaker 4: So it's just interesting to see how quickly this thing came.

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Speaker 4: Yet again, there are people, especially you know, I would

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Speaker 4: say Monday Clay, there are a lot of conservatives maybe

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Speaker 4: put that in quotes, A lot of people on the

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Speaker 4: right put that in quotes.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I think we need to like really reassess everything.

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Speaker 4: No, we do not need to reassess deporting millions of

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Speaker 4: illegals who don't have a right to be in the country,

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Speaker 4: And we certainly don't need to reassess prioritizing the deportation

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Speaker 4: of true public safety threats, scary violent criminals in many cases,

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Speaker 4: rapist murderers, et cetera. Who are in the country illegally

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Speaker 4: and already have deportation orders, and who Democrats are harboring

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Speaker 4: and sheltering and obstructing law enforcement efforts to deport Yes,

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Speaker 4: this is some people fell for this, and I sit

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Speaker 4: here and I go, you know, these are like it's

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Speaker 4: the same routine from the live media over and over again.

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Speaker 5: No, now you finally, you finally have to agree with

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Speaker 5: us because of.

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Speaker 2: How horrible this.

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Speaker 4: No, no, sorry, that's not going to work this time,

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Speaker 4: didn't work last time or the time before that, not

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Speaker 2: But I think it just goes to show you, man,

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Speaker 2: they will do anything.

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Speaker 4: They will lie, they will cheat, they will steal, they

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Speaker 4: will use AI to give someone a square jaw and

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Speaker 4: a winning smile, whatever they have to do to get

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Speaker 4: the easily fooled, the low iq and the cowardly to

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Speaker 4: go along with the abandonment of this central effort of

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Speaker 4: a Trump administration. So I just I feel very good

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Speaker 4: about the analysis we did here on this. By the way,

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Speaker 4: I still think he's probably gonna get a huge judgment

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Speaker 4: that doesn't change that, okay, but we all know what

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: You know, we all know that this guy was quite

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Speaker 4: truly literally asking for it in that video.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sold me you you know, mf and this and

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Speaker 2: cursing and everything.

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Speaker 1: Resmen, we pull that for the team and edit the

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Speaker 1: but I do think the vile nature of his interactions

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Speaker 1: with Ice, this audience should hear what he was screaming.

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Speaker 2: On that video.

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Speaker 1: Again, we've got FCC restrictions, so we'll edit out the

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Speaker 1: curse words. But yes, look, and do you agree with me,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that if that guy, if he had

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Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance he might well still

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Speaker 1: be alive. Because one of the things that unfortunately happens

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Speaker 1: when you allow violent crazy behavior to continue, you incentivize

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Speaker 2: And look, this is why I said. People got mad

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Speaker 1: Some people were like, oh my god, hell, this is

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Speaker 1: why I said, Tim Walls and Jacob Fry have blood

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Speaker 1: on their hands because this guy thinks he's a hero

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Speaker 1: and he is taking direction from them.

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Speaker 2: And so the family.

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Speaker 1: By the way, for anybody out there who is questioning

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Speaker 2: The family has acknowledged it's him. There is zero.

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Speaker 1: Dispute that he attacked ICE agents in the time leading up, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I bet there's a bunch of other videos of him

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Speaker 1: engaging in behavior just like this. He wanted to have

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Speaker 1: a confrontation with ICE. It's why he had the gun,

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Speaker 1: It's why he behaved the way that he did. And

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Speaker 1: you know, frankly, I just it's a reality of where

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is the reality of the situation unfolded,

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Speaker 4: unfolding before us. Clay is the I had to convince

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Speaker 4: everyone this guy as we heard that one preposterous clip

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Speaker 4: That wouldn't change It wouldn't change a word of it. Now,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. This guy was supposed to be. Oh,

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Speaker 4: it could have been your dad. It could have been

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Speaker 4: door neighbor. This guy's an American as apple pot. No,

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Speaker 4: he's actually a lunatic who runs at cops and spits

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Speaker 4: in their faces and kicks their cars because he doesn't

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Speaker 4: want the enforcement of completely legitimate laws passed by the

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Speaker 4: United States Congress enforced by people like Barack Obama, I

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Speaker 4: might add, among other Democrats. We might get to some

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Speaker 4: I know people want to be here, but you got

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Speaker 4: the martyrs of a left or maniacs and their heroes

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Speaker 4: are actually often criminals, frauds, maniacs themselves. So this is

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Speaker 4: something that I think is a reminder for anybody who

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Speaker 4: started to fall for this. Look, it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 4: the shooting wasn't possibly an overreaction by ice under the situation.

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Speaker 4: We got to have a full investigation, we got to

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Speaker 4: see all the body camera footage. But this guy was

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Speaker 4: truly asking for exactly what we saw, which is multiple

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Speaker 4: violent encounters with immigration custom enforcement.

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Speaker 2: If you play this game.

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Speaker 4: With cops and you get shot, you asked for the

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Speaker 4: dangerous situation to happen, and what that is. Unfortunately, how

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Speaker 4: this tragedy came to an end.

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Speaker 1: And for anybody out there to build on Buck who said,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, we've got to consider, Oh we've got

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Speaker 1: to pull out of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this is unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: This is I think a strong evidence yet again to

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Speaker 1: wait and see. Most of these people are engaging in

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Speaker 1: violence behavior and trying to incite this kind of outcome sadly,

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Speaker 1: and Democrats bragged about wanting it in July. The other

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Speaker 1: Walk back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show President Trump

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Speaker 4: Prescient moment to talk about manufacturing delusion, which is available

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Speaker 4: been because it's not that they couldn't prove the Duke

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Speaker 4: lacrosse players. I know, we're going back to what two

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Speaker 4: thousand and five. I'm looking it up right now because

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Speaker 4: I was. It's not that they couldn't prove the Duke

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Speaker 4: lacrosse plays were you know, it's not a not guilty thing,

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Speaker 4: it's they were innocent. Okay, they weren't even said that,

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Speaker 4: they weren't even there. The whole thing was absurd. Two

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Speaker 4: thousand and six, two thousand and six, close fast forward.

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Speaker 4: You know that they didn't bring any charges against the

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Speaker 4: accuser who lied, and that is a crime, and they

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Speaker 4: knew that she lied, and then she went on and

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Speaker 4: murdered somebody, stabbed them to death. Now you can say, okay, well,

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Speaker 4: one thing doesn't Actually I think it would have been

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Speaker 4: better off if she had had to face the music

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Speaker 4: on trying to ruin people's lives. I think it wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be better for her to have to look in the mirror,

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Speaker 4: maybe spend a year or two in prison for what

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Speaker 4: she did instead of getting fifteen to life, which is

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Speaker 4: I think what she ended up getting for murder, for

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Speaker 4: stabbing a guy to death. You hit on something that

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Speaker 4: I want to continue to hammer and I think should

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Speaker 4: be standard in America.

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Speaker 1: If you accuse someone of a crime, it could be

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Speaker 1: a sex crime, it could be any crime, and you

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Speaker 1: are able to be proven to have lied, which actually

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Speaker 1: is becoming very common now because there's lots of text

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Speaker 1: message evidence. You know the technology. As such, you should

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Speaker 1: be charged and face the exact same punishment that the

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Speaker 1: person would have faced if you had been able to

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Speaker 1: convict them.

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Speaker 2: In other words, if.

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Speaker 1: You accuse someone of rape and you made that up,

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Speaker 1: like the Duke Lacrosse case, when you are proven to

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Speaker 1: be a liar, as happened in Duke Lacrosse, she should

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Speaker 1: have faced the exact same punishment that all of those

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Speaker 1: Duke Lacrosse players would have faced if they had been convicted.

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Speaker 2: And there's a mutuality.

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Speaker 1: I think there should be a mutuality in the law

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Speaker 1: because we have to treat lies as more consequential because

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Speaker 1: again to your point, buck process as the punishment when

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Speaker 1: we could once you're a guy, if you're accused of rape,

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Speaker 1: they put your name out everywhere, everybody sees it. You

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Speaker 1: may get kicked out of school, you lose your job,

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Speaker 1: everything else, and of this administration. Yes, and if it

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Speaker 1: later comes out that it isn't true, there are absolutely

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Speaker 1: no consequences for the one. And because we have a

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Speaker 1: rape shield law in place, so the mutuality of a danger,

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Speaker 1: the mutuality of potential punishment doesn't exist. I think we

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Speaker 1: should have mirror laws. That's fine if you if you

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Speaker 1: commit a sexual assault, you should go to prison for

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Speaker 1: the rest of your life or however long the statute show, right,

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Speaker 1: But if you make it up, you should be prosecuted

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Speaker 1: in charge to the full extent of the law.

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Speaker 2: You're you're walking though into.

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Speaker 4: I mean, by the way, I agree with you, but

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Speaker 4: you're walking into a level of nuance that a lot

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Speaker 4: of people are going to immediately skip past, which is

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Speaker 4: they're going to say, now, no one's gonna want to

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Speaker 4: file a rated claim or whatever. It's not if you

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Speaker 4: can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the offender did it,

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Speaker 4: that's the standard. It's it can be proven beyond any doubt,

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Speaker 4: beyond a reasonable doubt that you lied about the entire thing. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that's that's a very high standard. But in the situation

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Speaker 4: like like the Rolling Stone case, another very very well

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Speaker 4: known one. Well, I mean, now that wasn't a that

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Speaker 4: didn't go to a criminal case. But I'm just saying,

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Speaker 4: in a situation where someone just completely.

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Speaker 1: Fabricates across as the perfect example to your point, like

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Speaker 1: that woman lied, Those women lied, they should have been

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Speaker 1: prosecuted to the full extent of the law. There might

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Speaker 1: be someone alive if they had done it, and again,

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Speaker 1: this is proving that you lied, proving that uli. It

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Speaker 1: is a hard standard, right, so there's still an ability

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Speaker 1: to lie. But if you get proven to lie, there

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Speaker 1: should be way more can I just say than just

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Speaker 1: oh the guy the guys.

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Speaker 4: It was that is, but the actual bi statute, they

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Speaker 4: should have been prosecuted by statute the d but they

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Speaker 4: decided not to because of all the stuff.

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Speaker 2: So it is illegal to do it. They just decided

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Speaker 2: not to bring the charge.

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Speaker 4: Why are we talking about this pretty How is this

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Speaker 4: guy still running around doing this stuff. You can spit

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Speaker 4: in an ice officer's face and kick the tailight of

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Speaker 4: and and face no consequences. You can attack government vehicles

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Speaker 4: and personnel and face no consequent at all.

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Speaker 2: That's where we are.

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Speaker 4: It's weird because I remember with January sixth, if you

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Speaker 4: walk into the Capitol building for less than a minute,

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Speaker 4: asked Julie Kelly. And she followed these cases all so closely,

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Speaker 4: and she followed them when a lot of people had

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Speaker 4: kind of forgotten about them, by the way, which is

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Speaker 4: one of the reasons why we have so much respect

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Speaker 4: for Julie on this show.

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Speaker 2: And we tried to elevate these cases.

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Speaker 1: I donated a bunch of buddies so they could get

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Speaker 1: warriors for people who have forgotten.

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Speaker 4: It was you're rich, so but you know it was.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy what they were doing to these people.

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Speaker 4: Crazy what they were doing to them, and there was

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Speaker 4: no tears for them whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: From all these people walked inside of ropes inside of

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Speaker 1: the capital. Many of them did, and were prosecuted to

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Speaker 1: the full extent of the law. Guy kicks out a

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Speaker 1: tail light and spits on ice agents and nothing.

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Speaker 2: Happens to him.

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing too, by the way, Buck, because I just

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Speaker 1: checked my email to get ready to do this read

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Speaker 1: and I have equal parts reactions to us talking about

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Speaker 1: this Alex pretty character and also people fired up about

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Speaker 1: your Natalie Portman take. So you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: range In the first forty five minutes, I have side

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Speaker 1: by side emails from Alex Freddie take. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: read this this email from a guy who has fired

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Speaker 1: up big Natalie Portman fan base evidently out there.

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Speaker 4: That is wrong. Curious and Pucker, I think, Puck can

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Speaker 4: they probably they probably like sinners too.

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Speaker 2: Buck's wrong.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about sinners. I haven't watched it, but I

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Speaker 1: think I appreciate Natalie Portman's work. Storm's like one this

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I may needed a tee off

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Speaker 6: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 6: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay

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Speaker 4: Welcome in everybody to the Thursday edition, second hour of

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Speaker 4: the Clay Travison Buck Section Show. And we have a

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Speaker 4: government shutdown on the horizon. Everybody, government shutdown? Could happy,

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Speaker 4: oh boy shutdown?

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Speaker 8: Oh no, Oh my gosh, what are they gonna death?

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Speaker 8: It could happen this Friday, I think, is when we're

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Speaker 8: talking about this, right, isn't that the latest? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 8: just letting you know we're watching it. We'll see there'll

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Speaker 8: be a bunch of stuff going on on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 8: Also today, Tom Homan having a really strong showing at

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Speaker 8: this press conference.

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Speaker 2: We want to get to that with you in a

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Speaker 2: little bit. But we had a really interesting call.

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Speaker 4: If he's still with us, because I gotta say this

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Speaker 4: to me, this is one of those moments, the Duke

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Speaker 4: la Crosse case. I understand it was a long time ago,

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Speaker 4: and like I said, Stephen Miller was on cable news

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Speaker 4: as a college student standing up for these kids. So

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Speaker 4: it's amazing how the world the turns in life comes

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Speaker 4: full circle. But we have a guy who says he

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Speaker 4: is from Durhamer, North Carolina and was a detective. Well,

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Speaker 4: I'll let him tell us. John, you're calling in from Durham,

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Speaker 4: North Carolina. What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Yes, sir, I just want to say I was not

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Speaker 9: in involved in the case. I was assigned to the

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Speaker 9: security detail on the day when Miss Mangum actually admitted

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Speaker 9: that she had made it all up. And that day

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Speaker 9: there were members on if like I say the name

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Speaker 9: or not, but of the New Black Panther Party that

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Speaker 9: was there marching and complaining. And then once she said

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Speaker 9: that and people in the courtroom, they didn't apologize to

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Speaker 9: du students that were accused. They just got up and left.

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Speaker 2: What was the Uh?

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Speaker 1: That story in two thousand and six, I think is

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Speaker 1: maybe the beginning of identity politics.

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Speaker 2: It was a pre social media era.

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what that case would have been

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Speaker 1: like in a social media era.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But how long did that stretch on?

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Speaker 1: What was that like being a detective involved in any

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Speaker 1: way in that area during that entire process.

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Speaker 9: I will tell you that some of my fellow detectives,

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Speaker 9: and especially the lead detective, and that as well as

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Speaker 9: some of the assistant district attorneys handling that they had

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Speaker 9: a lot of for lack of better words, PTSD because

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Speaker 9: of that, because they had been accused and of all

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Speaker 9: these things and being racist and all this that and

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Speaker 9: the other. And when the truth came out, it was like,

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Speaker 9: no apologies. It was just like, Okay, were you hearing.

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Speaker 4: Were you hearing from your colleagues in Durham law enforcement

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Speaker 4: that you know before it became like you said, the

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Speaker 4: woman came out in court and just said she made

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Speaker 4: the whole thing up. But there were I remember the

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Speaker 4: prosecutor's name was was Mike Knifong. Were the law enforcement

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Speaker 4: officers that were your you know, your comrades down in Durham.

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Speaker 4: Were they all pretty much aware that this was like

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Speaker 4: a hoax? Or was there a lot of well we

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Speaker 4: got to wait and see, We don't know.

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Speaker 9: It was more wait and see what comes out in court. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: let the evidence speak for itself.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, John, thank you for calling in interesting voice

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Speaker 4: from the past on this one. But Clay, that was

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Speaker 4: also there are some moments where I remember just being

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Speaker 4: thinking myself like I'm I'm a conservative or I'm right

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Speaker 4: wing or whatever, and that was one of them.

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Speaker 2: I remember I was.

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Speaker 4: I was dating a young young lady at the time,

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Speaker 4: and she got very angry at me when she found

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Speaker 4: out that I did not believe the accuser at all.

676
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Speaker 4: So that caused a big fight, and I was like, well,

677
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Speaker 4: I believe in reality and all the things that I'm

678
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Speaker 4: hearing about this do not match up with reality.

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Speaker 1: So mean, it's one of the biggest failures in the

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Speaker 1: history I think of the entire investigative proceedings ever, right,

681
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Speaker 1: I mean, to have the case go to the point.

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Speaker 1: Remember they shut down the entire team season. They and

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Speaker 1: again this is I feel like a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have forgotten about this story, but to me, it really

685
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Speaker 1: kind of represented the beginning of identity politics taking over

686
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Speaker 1: sports because it was I think two black strippers alleged

687
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Speaker 1: these awful series of crimes by the gang.

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Speaker 4: Rape by a bunch of white duke lacrosse players. A

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Speaker 4: gang rape, that was what the allegation was.

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Speaker 1: And then they charged all these guys and many of

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Speaker 1: them weren't even there, right, I mean, like the evidence

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Speaker 1: they had one of them a few miles away at

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Speaker 1: an ATM machine and they knew it and they didn't care,

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Speaker 1: and so all of this was based on the fact

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Speaker 1: that they were black women and these were white men,

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Speaker 1: and this was just the.

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Speaker 2: New York Times leaned in on it.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what settlement those guys got, but

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Speaker 1: it was one of I imagine it had to be

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Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars that those people who were

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Speaker 1: alleged to have committed the crimes got, And I give

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Speaker 1: credit to him. I think ESPN did a really good

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Speaker 1: documentary on this case that one of the spokespeople for

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Speaker 1: for the Duke lacrosse team, one of the players, came

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Speaker 1: out and said, I believe the phrase was there was

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Speaker 1: a series of fantastic lies when they arraigned them at

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Speaker 1: the courtroom. I mean, they were as outspoken as they

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Speaker 1: could possibly be. Sort of the greatest miscarriages of justice ever.

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Speaker 1: And what I would say in general is if a

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Speaker 1: story completely fits your narrative worldview, and I would even

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Speaker 1: put it into context of this ridiculous thing that we

712
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Speaker 1: saw with elon Omar the other day, I am very

713
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Speaker 1: skeptical when the best thing that could happen to someone

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Speaker 1: is a crime, and the crime happens to them, Like

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Speaker 1: remember about Jesse Smollett, being a racial and sex victim

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Speaker 1: in that manner would have been the greatest thing that

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Speaker 1: could have ever happened to his career. Ever, when the

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Speaker 1: best thing that could ever happen to your career is

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Speaker 1: you're a victim of a crime, and you allege you

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Speaker 1: were a victim of a crime, my alarm belts just

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Speaker 1: go off skeptically. And this case, I mean, from the

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Speaker 1: get go, it just didn't add up. Also, Duke University

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Speaker 1: turned on the students right away. Way the student body

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Speaker 1: at Duke turned on the students right away. They fired

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Speaker 1: the coach, I believe, Clay. I mean, think about that.

726
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Speaker 1: No one thought the coach. The coach didn't do anything.

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Speaker 4: The coach wasn't you know, the coach at the Steam.

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Speaker 1: They shut down the team this season, they didn't get

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Speaker 1: to play all based on these stripper wise, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, it's one of the one of the worst things

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Speaker 4: that any any university has has done in the twenty

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Speaker 4: first twenty first century with regard to the identity politics stuff.

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Speaker 4: It was a it was a huge, huge national case

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Speaker 4: New York Times. If you go back and read the editorials.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I'm sorry the News covered, not just

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Speaker 4: the editorials. It's just dripping with the sanctimonious lib like

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Speaker 4: white you know, privilege and and and a story of

739
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Speaker 4: race and class clashing on the Duke University campus and

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Speaker 4: all this sort of sort of stuff. And it's like

741
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Speaker 4: or you could look at the evidence which made it

742
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Speaker 4: very clear that these kids didn't do anything, or you could.

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Speaker 2: Do that would have collapsed faster.

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Speaker 1: In a social media age, with so many people able

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Speaker 1: to dive into the play, I think it would have

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Speaker 1: played out.

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Speaker 4: I think you almost have to. You almost have to

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Speaker 4: break up social media into like a.

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Speaker 2: B C A D.

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Speaker 4: By the way, it's not BCE A D E don't

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Speaker 4: ever fall for And that tells you a lot if

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Speaker 4: anyone uses that stuff. Columneur, it's like before X and

753
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Speaker 4: after X acquisition. Right, there's like the there's the pre Elons.

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Speaker 4: The pre Elon social media era was an absolute uh

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Speaker 4: you know, a communist tilted propaganda funhouse.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 4: I mean we could operate in it as some capacity,

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Speaker 4: but when things got really hot, they would always just

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Speaker 4: make sure that their side was winning. Now, yeah, I

760
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Speaker 4: think I think now that you would have a really

761
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Speaker 4: big problem trying to suppress that That's why Elon doesn't

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Speaker 4: get enough credit for this. By Elon and Trump our buddies. Again,

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Speaker 4: I told you that would happen, Remember when they had

764
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Speaker 4: their little tiff. We we came here. Just I don't

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Speaker 4: think we get enough credit. We tell you things and

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Speaker 4: then they come true like ninety nine percent of the time.

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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about predicting who's gonna win an election.

768
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Speaker 4: That's always you know, that's always a coin flip. But

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Speaker 4: when you're looking at issues like this that require you

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Speaker 4: to understand the personalities involved.

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Speaker 2: People like Elon, it's all destroyed with him and Trump. No,

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Speaker 2: it's not. It's gonna be fine, right, they had a

773
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Speaker 2: little thing. Elon and Trump.

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Speaker 4: You're talking about two guys whose egos could withstand multiple

775
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Speaker 4: nuclear strikes and they'd be fine.

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Speaker 2: All right, these guys are They're gonna be just fine.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think that Elon doesn't get enough

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Speaker 4: credit even to this day Clay for changing really really

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Speaker 4: internet culture because they're just needed to be one. There

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Speaker 4: needed to be one. The Democrats are still scrambling. We

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Speaker 4: see them scrambling even with the pretty thing. Why do

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Speaker 4: you think they have to run so fast and tell

783
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Speaker 4: the stories as quickly as they do because they know

784
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Speaker 4: that they've only got a short window before they're getting

785
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Speaker 4: mocked for lying about stuff, so they have to hammer

786
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Speaker 4: it so fast right away every time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think this also, you know, kind of ties

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Speaker 1: in with the GROC, which we have talked about. I

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Speaker 1: really do believe and not a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: talking about this, that AI is going to be in

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Speaker 1: terms of just providing information. I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be so utterly important what the feed is to provide

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Speaker 1: that information. And GROC has completely changed the game. All

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Speaker 1: we needed was one algorithm that just was down the

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Speaker 1: middle of the road, and GROC will give you data

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Speaker 1: that frankly, Chat GPT won't. I asked the question of GROC,

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Speaker 1: and I would encourage you to go check it out,

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Speaker 1: you know, just getting basic racial data on crimes, who

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Speaker 1: is committing murders, who is dying of murders from a

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Speaker 1: racial perspective, if you want to look at it. A

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Speaker 1: lot of Chat GPT won't do it because they're afraid

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Speaker 1: of what the data shows. GROC is trying to just

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Speaker 1: give you the truth and let you react to it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that is we are going to see

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Speaker 1: in the decades ahead that Elon buying Twitter was a

807
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Speaker 1: huge win for the marketplace of ideas on a level

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Speaker 1: that I don't think buck people are really even grappling

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Speaker 1: with yet in terms of how much of a difference

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Speaker 1: it has made. By the way your boy I was

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Speaker 1: going to play this, we'll get into Tom Homan two.

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Speaker 1: Your boy Scarborough said, we're talking about things that are

813
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Speaker 1: going to echo for decades. Your boy Scarborough said, I

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Speaker 1: think twenty years from now, our kids and grandkids are

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Speaker 1: going to be looking back as a defining moment in

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Speaker 1: the country's history.

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Speaker 2: Alex pretty being shot.

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Speaker 1: Did you see this cut twenty Joe Scarborough maybe the

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Speaker 1: wrongest man in media.

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Speaker 10: Listen, friends, probably ninety percent of them probably voted for

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump, and something happened this past week where even

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Speaker 10: they would see what the DHS was saying, what Christina

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Speaker 10: was saying about a thirty seven year old man who

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Speaker 10: got looked like an execution to me, executed in the

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Speaker 10: streets of America a few weeks ago, a three seven

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Speaker 10: year old woman whose final words were I'm not mad

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Speaker 10: at you, and he shot her at point blank range

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Speaker 10: through her window twice and killed her. I think twenty

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Speaker 10: years from now, our children and grandchildren are going to

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Speaker 10: be looking back and this is going to be a

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Speaker 10: defining moment. And I will say, you know, I hope

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Speaker 10: and I pray that the President the people around him

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Speaker 10: use this moment to understand that things have been pushed

834
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Speaker 10: too far. They need to start bringing this country together.

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Speaker 2: Nope, incorrect. I think in a week nobody's going to

836
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Speaker 2: be talking about Alex.

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Speaker 1: Pretty I tell you right now, as soon as that

838
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Speaker 1: video came out of Alex Peretti yelling at kicking the

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Speaker 1: tail lights out, screaming curse words at the Ice agents

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Speaker 1: and spitting on them, it vanished. I mean, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you right now, they're not talking about it on the

842
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Speaker 1: mission PC.

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Speaker 2: They're not talking about him on see it in. It

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Speaker 2: just is like a story never happened.

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Speaker 4: Clay had vanished, Like on MSNBC when there's a mass

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Speaker 4: shooting and they find out that guy was yelling a

847
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Speaker 4: lahuac bar, all of a sudden, gotta talk about sports

848
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 4: or something else, like they got to move onto something else,

849
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Speaker 4: not something they want to get into.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. So it is true.

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Speaker 1: My mother in law pointing out they're not playing the video,

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Speaker 1: you know, the story is bad for democrats when suddenly

853
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Speaker 1: CNN and MSNBC they move on to a new story

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Speaker 1: and just pretend that Alex Pretty didn't exist.

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Speaker 2: We got to play.

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Speaker 4: The other thing is you need the visual too, so

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Speaker 4: maybe it won't work as well on radio. That's one

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Speaker 4: of the frustrations that we can have of it, which

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Speaker 4: is also why you should subscribe on our YouTube channels.

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Speaker 4: You can watch these things afterwards, or you can watch

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Speaker 4: the video of it. But if you've seen the side

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Speaker 4: by side kind of inter into Elizabeth Warren of Eliza's

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Speaker 4: Warren being like Proddie.

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Speaker 5: What's the obsolute, the greatest human being, the most kind, loving, warm,

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Speaker 5: and you can see him like kicking the car, like

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Speaker 5: spittle coming out of his mouth, f bombs dropping, like

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Speaker 5: punching at the cops, like it's just like no I

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Speaker 5: ever would have heard a fly just believed, and putting

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Speaker 5: milk in little saucers for kiddy cats in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: It's it's incredible. If you haven't seen it, it really is good.

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Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, maybe we could well at least

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Speaker 4: pull that audio for you. You could hear it and

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Speaker 4: just think about the video. If you haven't. By the way,

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Speaker 4: do we have the video up at claan buck. Just

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Speaker 4: to make it easy people find, we should probably put

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Speaker 4: the pretty video up at clayandbluck dot com.

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Speaker 2: People can see it, because once.

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Speaker 4: You see it, you'll just go okay, Yeah, there still

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Speaker 1: He wanted a confrontation, he was seeking it for weeks,

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Speaker 1: We've got some good news for you before we dive

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Speaker 1: So we are excited about this. It's a thanks to

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Speaker 1: That is starting a little bit over a week from now,

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Speaker 2: As well, it will be the five.

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Speaker 4: Year anniversary of the clay in Buck shows as it exists,

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Speaker 4: so probably a good a good target date for us

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Speaker 4: to have all three hours of video would be on

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Speaker 4: the five year anniversary, so maybe we can make that happen.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna get me like flowers or chalkit or anything? Clack? No,

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Speaker 2: I'm bad enough at getting gifts for my wife. So

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Speaker 4: You certainly don't get anything. You don't even pretend. He

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Speaker 4: I'll get you something nice.

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Speaker 2: It's very sad.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not a gift guy, like my presence is

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm also a like I said, I'm a you know,

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Speaker 4: give me, give me my nephew's five to two nine

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Speaker 2: That's my version of get I don't do the other stuff,

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Speaker 2: did you? Actually this is funny.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to Tom home and our friend Jesse

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Speaker 1: Waters had a segment where we were talking about Sidney

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Speaker 1: Sweeney's new lingerie company in advance of Valentine's Day, and

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Speaker 1: he had I think it was Lydia moynihan on from

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Speaker 1: the New York Post who does good work, and he

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Speaker 1: asked her, good move, bad move for a husband to

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Speaker 1: buy Sidney Sweeney lingerie for his wife, because on the

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Speaker 1: one hand, it's nice, it's Valentine's Day, here's lingerie.

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Speaker 2: Downside, it means.

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Speaker 1: That the husband has definitely you've been checking out Sydney

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Speaker 1: Sweeney in her new lingerie in advance of giving the

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Speaker 1: see Lydia moynihan's full answer because it was such a

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Speaker 1: funny question that I had to give a hat tip

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Speaker 1: to the waters crew. So that is actually a really,

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Speaker 1: really good question. So that is floating around out there.

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Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, the reason why the show is

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Speaker 1: expanding is because you guys have been so fantastic in

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Speaker 1: being fans of the program and chasing us down wherever

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Speaker 1: we go, and so we're excited to be on one

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Speaker 1: wanted to do for some time because we just want

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Speaker 1: to make this show as easy for you guys to

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Speaker 1: accept the access no matter where you are across the country.

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Speaker 1: And again, we know a ton of you are truckers,

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Speaker 1: and probably the amount of time that you spend some

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Speaker 1: one state to another is substantial. So that will be

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Speaker 1: an easy way to be able to follow the show,

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Speaker 1: and we hope that you guys will be able to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of that. Now, let's play a couple of

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Speaker 1: these cuts, Buck, because both you and I thought Tom

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Speaker 1: Holman was masterful in the way that he has addressed

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Speaker 1: everything surrounding the attacks that have been taking place in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: and he said a lot of different things. This would

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Speaker 1: be substantial in a positive direction. This is cut six,

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Speaker 1: Holman says. Attorney General Ellison says that they will start

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Speaker 1: to turn over violent criminals now, because I think if

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Speaker 1: this follows through, this is actually a hugely important win

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Speaker 1: for everybody in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: Cut six.

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Speaker 11: I also pleased to announce I had a very good

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Speaker 11: meeting with Attorney General. Attorney General Ellison, and he has

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Speaker 11: clarify for me at county jails may notify ICE other

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Speaker 11: release dates of criminal public safety risks, so ICE can

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Speaker 11: take custodum upon their release from the jail. Look, I've

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Speaker 11: said this many times before. I've set it for the

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Speaker 11: last several years. Give us access to the illegal alien,

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Speaker 11: public safety threat, and the safety and security for jail.

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Speaker 11: It's common sense. Is safer for the community, it's safer

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Speaker 11: for the agent, and they're safer for the.

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Speaker 2: Alien, he says.

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Speaker 1: Cut tin here, Buck, We're not surrendering our mission at all.

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Speaker 1: We're just doing it smarter Tom Holman, This Morning Star going.

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Speaker 11: To enforce an operations. I've done many, many of them.

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Speaker 11: It just makes us safe for everyone when we know

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Speaker 11: exactly what we're looking for. What is this criminal history,

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Speaker 11: what is this immigration history? Version live is the impartment

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Speaker 11: complex versus the house? You know, it just makes us

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Speaker 11: operation cleaner, more efficient, and it's proven less violeance when

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00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 11: we know exactly what we're getting into and we can

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Speaker 11: take the necessary precautions to keep everybody safe. You know,

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Speaker 11: some of the operations that I've been involved in, we

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Speaker 11: know there's children in the house based on Survannic, so

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Speaker 11: we know you've got to be a little bit different

1059
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Speaker 11: when you go into that house because it's going to

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Speaker 11: be children presence. So target enforcement operations Wavering Bowers done it.

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Speaker 11: I think we got to wait for a little bit

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Speaker 11: and we're going to go to make sure we do

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Speaker 11: target enforcement operas. Okay, look, and I'll say it again,

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Speaker 11: we are not surrendering our mission at all. Doing the smarter.

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Speaker 1: One more cut cut eight. Criminals are a priority, but

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Speaker 1: if you enter the country illegally, you're not safe from

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Speaker 1: being targeted and or being deported Cut eight.

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Speaker 11: You're a country legally you're not. You're never off the table,

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Speaker 11: you know, but we're priorization doesn't mean forget it, but

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Speaker 11: you forget about your must Let me let me say this.

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Speaker 11: If the message we send as you can enter this

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Speaker 11: country legally it's a crime, don't worry about it. You

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Speaker 11: can have your do process, show up and court, not

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Speaker 11: chopping court, get order and moved. Don't worry about unless

1075
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Speaker 11: you commit a serious crime, you're good to go. If

1076
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Speaker 11: that's the message we sent to the world, you're never

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Speaker 11: going to fix this problem.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a masterful performance, Buck. I loved

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Speaker 1: him setting the agenda. Tom Holman to me and I

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Speaker 1: think you're an agreement on this. Should be the front

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Speaker 1: facing uh spellkes person for all issues relating to the

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Speaker 1: border and enforcement of our laws here.

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Speaker 4: He should be the guy who is making the most

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Speaker 4: important strategic level decisions about all things going on with this.

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Speaker 4: Obviously in the name of and with the stamp of

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Speaker 4: approval of the President, but he should be the point

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Speaker 4: guy on this, you know. I mean, he should be

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Speaker 4: the equivalent of the Secretary of War, except he's the

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Speaker 4: Secretary of Deportation. I mean, this should be the guy

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Speaker 4: who and I know people have said he's the he's

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Speaker 4: a czar, and he's kind of yeah. But you know,

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Speaker 4: there's been a lot of DHS. Secretary Nome. Look she's

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Speaker 4: got When DHS is such an unwieldy bureaucracy as it is, Clay,

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Speaker 4: you've got Secret Service under DHS. I think I think

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Speaker 4: now like it's hard to even keep up, but that

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Speaker 4: it changed. All this change from when I was in

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Speaker 4: the CIA. You've got Coast.

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Speaker 2: Guard, his coast Guard in DHS.

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Speaker 4: Now, I think it is ICE obviously, is Customs and

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Speaker 4: Border Patrol is and there's a a TSA. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's all these agencies that are all together under this

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Speaker 4: DHS banner. I think that a Secretary Nome can handle

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Speaker 4: some more of that broad mandate. And on this issue

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Speaker 4: of the deportations, you want to see Tom Holman. This

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Speaker 4: guy's done this for over for thirty something years. He

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Speaker 4: knows everything. He knows every trick that people try to

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Speaker 4: play in the public arena to lie about this stuff.

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Speaker 4: He knows the reality that the Border Patrol agents face

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Speaker 4: and that ICE agents face either with Border or Interior enforcement.

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Speaker 4: It's just the guy you want to This is what

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Speaker 4: you want you want somebody who has the knowledge of

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Speaker 4: the experience and the leadership capability to get this entity

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Speaker 4: to function for its mission the way that it should.

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Speaker 4: So I felt that way about him along, and he

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Speaker 4: did a phenomenal job in the press conference. And I

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Speaker 4: think the more that Trump entrusts this mission to Tom Homan,

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Speaker 4: the better will because he knows he knows how to

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Speaker 4: make the case, and he knows how to also expose

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Speaker 4: if some mayor or police commissioner wants to play game

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Speaker 4: A games, he'll establish what the statutory problem with that

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Speaker 4: is and he'll take it to the public play in

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Speaker 4: a way that everyone can understand and everyone can see.

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Speaker 4: There's obstruction going on here, and that's I think really critical.

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Speaker 1: And all of this is I thought, just really well

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Speaker 1: done in terms of setting the agenda. I think we

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Speaker 1: have one more cut. Team was telling me that they

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Speaker 1: think we should play and that was cut five, which

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Speaker 1: I don't think we played yet.

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Speaker 2: One more there.

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Speaker 11: In my meetings with folks so far, and most important

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Speaker 11: to Governor in the ag the Mayor Fry, we didn't

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Speaker 11: agree on everything. I didn't expect to agree on anything.

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Speaker 11: One thing we all agreed ian was US immigration customers.

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Speaker 11: Forcement is a legitimate law enforce agency. There's a duty

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Speaker 11: to enforce the laws and acted by Congress and keep

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Speaker 11: the community safe. Like I've said many times for the

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Speaker 11: last several years for this administration, jurisdictions that refuse to

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Speaker 11: cooperate with federal immigration authorities are sanctuaries for criminals. Sanctuary

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Speaker 11: cities are sanctuaries for criminals and endangers the residence of

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Speaker 11: the community.

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Speaker 1: The numbers out there buck ice arrest and Minnesota eleven thousand,

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Speaker 1: which sounds like a pretty substantial number. Now, obviously population

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Speaker 1: factors in here, but let me give you a number

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Speaker 1: Texas eighty eight thousand. We haven't seen a single story

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Speaker 1: about resistance to ICE or border patrol in the entire

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Speaker 1: state of Texas. Eighty eight thousand arrests. In Minnesota, we've

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Speaker 1: seen eleven thousand arrests. Now, the population obviously is much

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Speaker 1: higher in Texas, but it isn't eight times the population.

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Speaker 1: I don't think of Minnesota so on a per capita basis.

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Speaker 1: There are lots of states out there that are participating

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Speaker 1: in a functional and effective way and others that are not.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's worth paying attention to and recognizing

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Speaker 1: now Fry, there does seem to be a difference of

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Speaker 1: what people say publicly and what they are saying privately.

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Speaker 1: Based on the way that this talk went. Mayor Fry

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Speaker 1: just said in address to a bunch of other different

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Speaker 1: mayors that ice needs to be banished nationwide. So again

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Speaker 1: cut thirty six, Abolish ice is becoming an actual Democrat argument,

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Speaker 1: which I don't think plays well for them.

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Speaker 2: Cut thirty six.

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Speaker 4: Despite what you.

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Speaker 12: Made here on different media channels, crime is down in

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Speaker 12: virtually every category and virtually every neighborhood of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis is a safe city. It is less safe when

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Speaker 2: chiosin is supreme. It is less safe when families do

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Speaker 2: not feel comfortable going to school.

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Speaker 12: Or buying food at the grocery store because they're worried

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Speaker 12: that their very family might get ripped apart. It is

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Speaker 12: less safe when we have roving fans of agents marching

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Speaker 12: down the street just looking for somebody who might be concerned.

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Speaker 12: I gotta tell you, everybody is concerned when you have

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Speaker 12: that kind of occupation. And so we've been very clear

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Speaker 12: the Operation Mets Research needs to end this kind of

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Speaker 12: conduct and siege needs to stop, not just in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: It needs to stop nationwide. I would love just here. No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's some mayor, he's a moron, and this

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Speaker 4: is how about No, I would love this is where.

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Speaker 1: Actual data would be fun. What is the number that

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Speaker 1: Jacob bry thinks is an appropriate and allowable and permissible

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Speaker 1: number of illegal immigrants in the country. Nobody ever asked

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Speaker 1: this question of the people out there that are dancing

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Speaker 1: around and spending a lot of time arguing that there

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Speaker 1: needs to be no enforcement from Ice. Okay, what's the

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Speaker 1: number that you think would be too many? Would fifty million?

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Speaker 1: One hundred million? Should we just make Latin Americans, everyone

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Speaker 1: in all of Latin America able to come.

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Speaker 2: Here and live.

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Speaker 1: Where would you draw the line and say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense, and there's never really an announcement

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Speaker 1: or comprehension or discussion of that. Look, I'm headed out

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Speaker 1: I don't think we Hopefully I am not wrong in this,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think we have a great affiliate in

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Speaker 2: It's one of the cities we need to hit.

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Speaker 1: You'll be able to listen on satellite radio now, though

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Speaker 1: I guess in San Francisco, in Dallas and other cities

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