1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharp or Square, presented by hard Rock bet. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: We are part of the Volume podcast network. This is 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: the show that makes the square sharper and makes the 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention all off season long, because we 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: will be dropping a lot of knowledge about futures, including 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: a little bit in today's episode. I am Chad Melman. 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: I am joined by my bff, my companion, my co host, 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: my compadre professional letter Simon Hunter Ello. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: Simon Chad, how are we doing? 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Look, it's the off season for football now, there's still 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: a ton to talk about. Like I was, I have 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: been on the road, no joke. It's February twelfth today, 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: since the season began. I have been since the year began. 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: I have been in Atlanta for the Peach Bowl, Miami 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: for the National Championship Game. Then I was in Philly 16 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: to see my older kid, DC to see my younger kid, uh. 17 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: And then this past weekend I was away for the 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl doing reporting on my book. And I'm going 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: away to LA for NBA All Star this week. Come back, 20 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: go back to California for a trip, come back, go 21 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: to Boston for Sloan. I don't feel like it's the 22 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: off season. Simon, I feel like it's it's busier than ever. 23 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, for football, I would say as a pro usually 24 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: I do disappear for two three weeks here because this 25 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: is our little offseason, and uh then obviously dive right 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: back in the combine and the NFL Draft, and you know, 27 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: the NFL now really is three sixty five that kind 28 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: of never ends. 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: So I'm with you. 30 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: It's the type of life now where it's always in 31 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: the back of your mind, and even when you're doing 32 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: other stuff, you're always thinking and am I missing something? 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: Should I be betting some team's futures right now? And 34 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: just like everyone else, you know, I'm can't wait for 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: the draft obviously, but my favorite day is when all 36 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: the books start leaking those week one lines. 37 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, like we. 38 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: Said, people, our diehards obviously will listen to the old offseason. 39 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: If you're just a football fan and you're checking it out, 40 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: definitely check in on our future show we Talk NFL, 41 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: just because we do give out good info. I mean, 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: last year we gave out our favorite long shots for 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: each division. We gave out the Patriots, we gave out 44 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 3: our give it, gave out sound reasoning about why we 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 3: did like the Patriots, and you know, like we said, 46 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: every division, we're not gonna nail, but we'll go through 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 3: everyone obviously and just try to give a preview about 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: what we're seeing this upcoming season. 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like we always talk about. It's we 50 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: talk other sports obviously. 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: We have really smart guests on that predictular sport worts 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: and you know, even looking ahead this year off season 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: wise for the NFL, I can't wait. Right We got 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: the Olympics right now, and then we have the World 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 3: Cup in the summer, so we have all of our 56 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: major sports in America, but we have a lot of 57 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: great other sports going on right now that I want 58 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: to get action on. 59 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a fun time right now for a 60 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: sports fan. 61 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: It's fun anytime to be a sports fan. I mean, 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: our jobs are so silly. Speaking of silly, it's our 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: traditional NFL offseason mailbag episode. So we get a lot 64 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: of questions throughout the year and then especially once the 65 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: season is over. So Matt Mitchell's been going through the 66 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: mail bag and compiling them. We're going to look at 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: them today. If you ever have any questions for us, 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: you can always DM me and Simon at the various socials. 69 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: You could also just email producer Matt Mitchell anytime or 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: Square at gmail dot com. We love to hear from you. 71 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: We love answering questions, We love interacting with the folks 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: who are listening and watching Obvious One. Everyone's been talking 73 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: about it for the past forty eight hours. I mean, 74 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: this is this is what's crazy about media. There is 75 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: It's like there is no rest, there is no celebration. 76 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: I was flying back on Monday from where I was 77 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: to back to Connecticut, and I had a layover and 78 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in one of the lounges and they got 79 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: first take on and I swear to god, Cam Newton 80 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: and Ryan Clark and dan Orlowski were doing first take 81 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: from Disneyland, and they like, they looked like they were 82 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: gonna throw down about who were the better quarterbacks than 83 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold in the NFC. Ryan Clark looked like he 84 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: was about to cry about it. Cam Newton was apoplectic 85 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: about it. Dan Orlowsky was literally standing up. And I'm 86 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, you guys just can't care that much 87 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: about who you're saying are better quarterbacks in the NFC 88 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: than Sam Donald? Right, now who, twelve hours earlier had 89 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: won the freaking Super Bowl, the one of the best 90 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: postseason performances we've ever seen. The voice of reason on 91 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: the show. The only person who was calm was stephen A. 92 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: Smith. 93 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: That was it. Everyone else was losing their shit. Stephen A. 94 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: Smith was like, guys, guys, this is what it is. 95 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: This is why Dak Prescott can't be listed as a 96 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: better quarterback than Sam Donald right now in the NFC. 97 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: My point for all this is, I've given it some grace. 98 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: We like to celebrate, but now it's Thursday. It's time 99 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: to start talking about NFL season futures. Super Bowl sixty 100 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: one odds at hard Rock Bet right now, the Los 101 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, the Seattle Seahawks, the Buffalo Bills at plus 102 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: eleven hundred. The Rams and the Seahawks are both at 103 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: plus nine hundred. Those are the shortest odds right now. 104 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: The Ravens plus looks like thirteen hundred Packers plus fourteen 105 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: hundred Eagles. Simon there at plus fourteen hundred. Have you 106 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: looked at any of these yet? Have you given any 107 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: serious thought to these? Yet? Not? 108 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: Really? 109 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: Like I did put a single bet on the Chiefs 110 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: because the book did hang them at fifteen to one, 111 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: and it's like, all right, can't I can't walk by 112 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: that number and not bet, even though I really do 113 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: think the Chiefs feel like they might be in the 114 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: middle of a little bit of a rebuild here because 115 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: they haven't drafted too great, but the coaching they have 116 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: and the quarterback, I just feel like they if any 117 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: team can find a way, we know it to them. 118 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: And at fifteen to one, I know Pat's coming off 119 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: a serious injury here, but that one fell too egregious. 120 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: And yeah, for long shots, I'm already oh for one 121 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: this year, I said it was kind of a fun 122 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: bet to throw a flyer on Cleveland at like fifty 123 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: or one hundred and fifty to one. They've only gotten worse. Yeah, 124 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: Jim Schwartz is out the building. It's all bad there, 125 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: so that I'm definitely moving off that position. Jumped out 126 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: to me, our guys shuck one hundred and twenty five 127 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: to one Saints for Super Bowl. I thought that was 128 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: a little bit of interesting. And the Panthers are one 129 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: hundred and ten to one. 130 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: I thought that was a little interesting. 131 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: So the NFC South, they're just the two teams that 132 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: popped out to me right away, And I know some 133 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: proso bet the Giants at seventy to one. 134 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: I don't feel like that's good enough. 135 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: I feel like I need eighty or ninety to one 136 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: if you've betting on Dart to stay healthy for a 137 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: whole season with a new coaching staff and horrorball. So 138 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: if people want to know what pros if take a 139 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: position on, I know a couple of pros if taken 140 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: a position on the Giants. 141 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: Not so much these little long shots I've talked about. 142 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're bringing that up there. You just mentioned 143 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: a couple of things that are in the questions that 144 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: people have been asking us about, and we're going to 145 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: get to it in a second. One is about the Chiefs. 146 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: One is about coaches that were on coaches that were 147 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: off Harbaugh, Mounken, there's other coaches, you know, Michael Floor 148 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: just signed with Arizona, Clint Kubiak going to the Raiders. Like, 149 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of new names and 150 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: old names and new places that we're going to get to. Look, 151 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: you've got the two AFC South teams, the Texans and 152 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: the Jags at twenty to one. The Bears twenty two 153 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: to one. I won't get sucked in with the Bengals. 154 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: I won't get sucked in with the Colts. I won't 155 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: get sucked in with the Chargers. I'm Lions curious at 156 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: fifteen to one if their defense ever stays healthy. They've 157 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: got a new offensive coordinator. That's intriguing to me. I'm 158 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: looking for second year coaches. I should reframe that because 159 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: I probably will get sucked in with the Jaguars. I 160 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: like the second year coaches who I think had proven 161 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: in that first year they understand how to build a system, 162 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: and they showed improvement over the course of the year. 163 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: The Jaguars had that can you get over Trevor Lawrence? 164 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: The Texans have shown it. Can you get over CJ. Stroud? 165 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: The Broncos? Can you get over Bo Nicks? I'm curious 166 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: why you didn't mention any of those three teams all 167 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: at twenty to one. 168 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: I just don't like the value. 169 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: They're all so clustered, and I just with those type 170 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: of teams, I have a feeling if. 171 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: One of them start zero and too, I get way 172 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: better value. 173 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 3: And that's that's what I'll be picking because this year 174 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: the books have simply said we have no idea, right 175 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: usually have. This year, we have a team that's plus 176 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: five hundred plus four hundred odds on Super Bowl Favorite. 177 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: The Silks are double that, they're plus eight hundred. Like 178 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: that's really telling, by the books about how wide open 179 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: everything is. So you know, I talk all the time. 180 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: I'm wide open about what I look for with people 181 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: and how what's been great and beneficial to me long term, 182 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: where I find success in winning offensive line defensive line. 183 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: If I'm making a Super Bowl. 184 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: Future of bed right now, if I only can make 185 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: one bet, you must pick a team that either has 186 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: a dominant offensive line or a dominant well known defensive line. 187 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: And sounds very lazy and boring, it's held true. It 188 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: feels like almost every year. I mean, you could say 189 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: that Patriots are a little fluky, they'd have a great 190 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: offensive line. I think they had a pretty dominant defensive 191 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: line in many ways, right. 192 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: They had a really good defense. And by the way, 193 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: you're let me just reiterate your point. Last year it 194 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: was the Eagles dominant offensive line, dominant defensive line. This 195 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: year the Seahawks dominant offensive line, dominant defensive line. When 196 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: the Chiefs were winning. They had a really good defensive line, 197 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: Like that's. 198 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: Not you have their Hall of Famer on your offensive 199 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: now and. 200 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: The better offensive lineman of the year. 201 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 202 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: So it's like that's it sounds like I'm being a 203 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: dead horse here, people, But look for that. That's something 204 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: that the general population, they still overlook it. They don't 205 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: realize how important it is, and they're just all blinded 206 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: about the big names, right Like I was honestly tempted 207 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: to take you know, josh Alla eleven to one, twelve 208 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: to one right now, Like that's very tempting. This guy 209 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: is the best. He played on a broken foot. If 210 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: he didn't have a meltdown in that Denver game, they 211 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: could have easily won the Super Bowl this year. Like, 212 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: he would have gave real problems to that Seahawks defense 213 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: his running style and his deep armaability, Like you saw 214 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: the Seahawks their real achilles was being beat downfield on 215 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 3: certain type of passes. That's why Stafford could rip them right. 216 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: Those two tight end sets they dominate the Seahawks. Guess 217 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: who runs a ton of two tight end sets? 218 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: The Bills. 219 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: So we're looking for an AFC team that could challenge 220 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: the Seahawks team. The Bills got er up there. The 221 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: only reason I'm not giving them out is just it 222 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: doesn't feel like it's enough. 223 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: Value here for me. 224 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: Like if if they had an established number one receiver, 225 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: that feels like good odds to me. But without a 226 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: number one receiver I can truly trust still, which I 227 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: think is something they will address. I don't know if 228 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: I can be putting money on money on the Bills yet. 229 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: Well. That leads directly into the second question from our fans, 230 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: which is, we've got ten new head coaches in the 231 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: NFL this upcoming season. Of those ten situations, and I'll 232 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: read them, let's pick two we love and two we hate. 233 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Micha Lafloor previously with the Rams. Falcons, Kevin 234 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:12,359 Speaker 1: Stefanski previously with the Browns, Baltimore Ravens, Jesse Minter Buffalo Bills, 235 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: Joe Brady Cleveland Browns, Todd Munkin, Clint Kubiak coming from 236 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: the Seahawks to the Raiders, Jeff Haffley going from the 237 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: Packers to the Dolphins, John Harbaugh from the Ravens to 238 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: the Giants, Mike McCarthy from the Cowboys to the Steelers 239 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: and then Robert Salah to the Titans. I've got over there. 240 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: I hate. I just hold on. 241 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say one thing. Sure, I've got a 242 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: countertake on the one I hate the most. 243 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: That's why you stop me. Jesus Christ, Chad uh Yeah, 244 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: for the two I hate. 245 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how anyone has confidence in 246 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 3: Arizona or Miami. Those feel like total teardown rebuilds. How 247 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: do you have faith into it? He's just regressed every year, 248 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: his head injuries, his body's breaking down, and Kyler's got 249 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: ex teammates telling Jets ownership do not bring this guy in. 250 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: This guy does not love football, does not care about football, 251 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: is a bad teammate. 252 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: So nightmared, nightmare, nightmare. 253 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: If I was an Arizon or Miami fan, I just 254 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: I don't see a future, especially in their divisions. So 255 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: I feel bad for them. And you know, I guess 256 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: Tadd Mulkins a horrible higher too by the Cleveland. But 257 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: for just we're going just too. I would say Arizona 258 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: Miami that just feels like total lost causes. 259 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: You ready for my take? I'm not a John Harbaugh guy. 260 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: That's fair. 261 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: I mean, he's someone said he's a better looking Mike McCarthy, 262 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: which I totally agree with. It's like we hype them 263 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: up because they won a Super Bowl years and years 264 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: and years ago, and that's carried them now for fifteen years. 265 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: So I agree with you he's a little overrated. 266 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I think he'll improve the culture. I think he'll make 267 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: them better players. I think he'll keep them in more games. 268 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: I clearly we have never been that impressed with his 269 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: decision making in the game. More importantly, his offenses are 270 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: pretty unimaginative, meaning he doesn't go out and hire guys 271 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: that inspire a ton of confidence, and we saw that 272 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: with the Ravens. I mean, he's had the single greatest 273 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: weapon in the NFL for almost a decade, a guy 274 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: has won multiple MVPs, and consistently in the playoffs, they 275 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: will do the exact opposite thing of what they need 276 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: to do to win those games, and then he'll come 277 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: out and defend the offensive coordinator in the play calling 278 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: to the point where it's It's reportedly one of the 279 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: reasons why he left is they wanted him to fire 280 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: Todd Monkin and he wouldn't do it. So I'm just 281 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a hardball guy. I'm not that much of 282 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: a believer. I actually think Mike McCarthy to the Steelers 283 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: is more interesting. The one that I love is Clint 284 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Kubiak to the Raiders. I mean, we saw it all season, 285 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: and we saw a lot of it in the Super Bowl. 286 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: The guy was a magnificent play caller and took a 287 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: very good talent in Sam Donald and put him in 288 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: positions to succeed. He's going to have Brock Bauers with 289 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders. He's going to have Ashton Genty with the Raiders. 290 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: He's going to have Colton Miller, who missed most of 291 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: the year as an offensive lineman for the Raiders, their 292 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: best offensive lineman. He's going to have him back. And 293 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: then they're going to get Fernando. Now, I'm not being 294 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: crazy irrational about what I think a rookie quarterback can do, 295 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: but I do think if there's going to be any 296 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: rooky quarterback who can marry with what Kubiak did, we 297 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: saw a really, really good comp with Sam Donald. So 298 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: I like that choice. It gives it a little bit 299 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: of shine and momentum in Las Vegas. 300 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I'll go with Minter to the Ravens. 301 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: I think they're trying to correct the errors of their ways, 302 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: which is letting Mike McDaniel's walk out that door. 303 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: And you know they know they mean Mike McDonald's. Mike McDonald. 304 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: Yes, when they let one of the best defensive minds 305 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: walk out that door and Minter, you expect he is 306 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: going to be that type of guy, right, Like he's 307 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: going to be this great defensive mind that could come 308 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 3: in and set up that franchise now defensively, because that's 309 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: what's been missing with the Ravens, right, They just the 310 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: last two years, their defense has been subpar since he left, 311 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: and you know Minter might come in and totally change that, 312 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: which is what they need. And you know, if if 313 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 3: it is over for Lamar, right, if he does get 314 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: banged up again next year, and he did, they just 315 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: can't rely on him once again. 316 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 2: He's he's just inconsistent. 317 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: You know, that's the kind of coach you want to 318 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 3: be in there evaluating quarterbacks going forward because obviously this 319 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: guy knows quarterbacks because he's such a great defensive mind. 320 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: So I did really like that hied by the Ravens, 321 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: And again I like the higher becase how much I 322 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: hate it. I'm gonna go with Mike McCarthy. I hate 323 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: the higher times a thousand. I can't believe they're going 324 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 3: from Tomlin to McCarthy. So I have a history when 325 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 3: I hate hires, usually that's a great hire by that organization. 326 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go the other way on it. 327 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: Where Pittsburgh they've been so great at hiring these coaches, 328 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: who am I to doubt them and question them. I 329 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 3: did not understand that hiring at all. And I know 330 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: he's a local guy and he absolutely loves Pittsburgh and 331 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: he grew up rooting for them and all that noise. 332 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: But this, this to me was bizarre. I mentor I 333 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 3: thought would go to Pittsburgh. That to me for like 334 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 3: a Pittsburgh guy, a young, smart defensive mind, come in 335 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 3: and be the coach there for twenty years. Instead they 336 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 3: went with a McCarthy, a journeyman. Now at this point, yeah. 337 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: Bizarre, bizarre, bizarre, bizarre hire. 338 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: And especially the fact that after Rogers leaves, now you're 339 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: having Mike McCarthy. I value with your quarterback, and he's 340 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 3: gonna be the guy that's dictating your next quarterback. So 341 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: I don't know where you're at with that one. But 342 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: again I like it because how much I hate it. 343 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: So my two favorites were Kobiak and Minter full stop 344 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: super excited about those. My second tier with Salah to 345 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: the Titans. Stefanski intrigues me. Joe Brady feels uninspired and 346 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: like the leftovers in Buffalo. For some reason, they couldn't 347 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: get anything better. I don't know what the situation is there. 348 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: I agree with you about McCarthy and the Steelers. They 349 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: have always been a team that goes out and gets 350 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: a super young talent Chuckno, Bill Kawer, Mike Tomlin, and 351 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: then that person is in the job for twenty years. 352 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: That's obviously not going to be Mike McCarthy at sixteen 353 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: years old or whatever it is. So it was interesting 354 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: to me that they sort of went away from that. 355 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: But the flip side is, I do think he's a 356 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: really good offensive coach, and we've seen what he can 357 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: do when he has a semblance of a competent quarterback. 358 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: And I think they're playing I think they expect Aaron 359 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Rodgers to come back. I think they want to get 360 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: as much juice out of the can as the end 361 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: of that era with that defense, and this is going 362 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: to give them the best opportunity to do it. I 363 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: also think there is that one's ever going to stop 364 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: going to Steelers games, but there are rumblings on that 365 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: from that fan base about how unimaginative the offense has 366 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: been and that it's been super hard to watch these games. 367 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: And with McCarthy at least you're getting a little bit 368 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: more creativity and a little bit more offensive expertise. So 369 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. It's not in align with what 370 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: they've done historically. It's not a forward thinking here's our 371 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: future for the next twenty years coach. But I don't 372 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: hate it. He's been a good coach and he's wonted 373 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: a lot of play he's won a lot of games. 374 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: It's fair. 375 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm again I'm super negaive and down on him where 376 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: I look at all the stuff he does in the 377 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: playoffs chat talking about imaginative he is offensively, his offenses 378 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: have always laid an egg in the playoffs between. 379 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers Dak. 380 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. 381 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, but. 382 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if Harble is as involved in the 383 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: offense like McCarthy is. Like we're talking and you're in 384 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh fans. 385 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: I get it. 386 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 3: Being five hundred every year and losing the first run 387 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: of the playoffs probably got old right. 388 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: It was a long run. 389 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: You guys might have after this McCarthy run, four or 390 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: five years bottom of the barrels, you might become the Browns. 391 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: Now you might be three and fourteen, four and fifteen 392 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: every year. Like again, I get what you need to change. 393 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: I am worried about the way this Pittsburgh organization is 394 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: going right now. So yeah, it's I'm with you. I 395 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: feel like the two best hires definitely Raiders in the Ravens. 396 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: They knocked at the park, QBIAC excited to see what 397 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: we can do with Frenanda. 398 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: Mendozo Simon, it's like your professional podcaster because you just 399 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: mentioned Cleveland and one of the questions, what team is 400 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: currently in the worst overall situation Arizona, New York Jets, 401 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. I think it's got to be the Jets. 402 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: I think with Lafleur in Arizona, you're getting a guy 403 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: who's got a really good pedigree, and you've got a 404 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: fresh start. And even if you do try to figure 405 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: out how to get rid of Kyler, you got Jacobe Prissette. 406 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: There there's some semblance of something, and you've got optimism. 407 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 1: I think in Cleveland terrible situation. It's on par with 408 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: the Jets, but you still got an elite defense and 409 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: if Todd Munkin can figure something out, you'll be in 410 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: some games. I think the New York Jets are poisonous. 411 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the worst organizations in sports. 412 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: I think they're desperate. I think they're grasping. I think 413 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: they don't really know what they're doing. I think players 414 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: don't want to play there. I think their ownership is sour, 415 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: and their quarterback room right now is justin fields and 416 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: I forgot who else, Tyrod Taylor, it doesn't matter, it 417 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, and no, and and they're not really in 418 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: a position to get a good quarterback because it's not 419 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: a front loaded quarterback draft. 420 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: No, it's a horrible draft. Again, no district for name 421 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: and dooza in a normal draft. Here it's he's there 422 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: by no means a slam dunk number one right like 423 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 3: he is not that. 424 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know how you don't pick Arizona. 425 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 3: They're in a division with right now the three best 426 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: top with top five coaches in the NFL and Shanahan, 427 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: McVay and McDaniels, McDonald McDonald. I don't know what they 428 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: can do. I just don't know how Arizona can get 429 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 3: out of this. It's so bad. And you know, they 430 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: didn't make the right move going from Rosen obviously to Kyler, 431 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: but that was a bust and it set him back. 432 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: It's a waste of six seven years. Now they have 433 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: to do that once again. So yeah, it's it's a nightmare. 434 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: Like we just said that that. I just can't get 435 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: over how good their division is and the coaches where 436 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 3: the Jets. I don't know if as bad as it 437 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: is for them, there is an avenue where they can 438 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 3: get They have all this draft capital now, they can 439 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: get the coach, they can get the quarterback the next 440 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: three four years and change this thing. I don't see 441 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: how Arizona does that next three four years. I don't 442 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: know if a quarterback or the right coach can fix 443 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: that team because that division is just so brutal, fluky 444 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: things happen. 445 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: Can they steal division? 446 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 3: Sure, but them being consistent, Like we've talked about the 447 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks. 448 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: And you know them in the Eagles. 449 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: Right now in the NFC, there are the two teams 450 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: that have now won multiple Super Bowls in the last 451 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: ten years. Like they're the cream of the crop the NFC, 452 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: where the AFC has just been so dominated by the 453 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: Chiefs and the Patriots. It's just hard for me to see, Like, 454 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: I don't know the Jets, that's the Jets thing. 455 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: I'm with you on. 456 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: But Arizona, I have all the teams I feel the 457 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: most hope is just lost on that right now, which 458 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: I just I don't want to beat them while they're down. 459 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: I know they're the biggest losing organization in the history 460 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: of the NFL, but my god, their ownership is just 461 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: so bad. 462 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Their ownership is terrible. By the way, the Bidwells, you 463 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: know how they made other money, m I do. 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A couple of personal questions. One more football question, 498 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: you know. Ben Solak put out an article this morning 499 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: on ESPN dot com about free agent QBS. We were 500 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: just talking about the Cardinals. Daniel Jones, Malik Willis, Gardner, 501 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: Minshew Kirk Cousins may be released. Kyler Murray is potentially 502 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: available to is potentially available. Nothing here feels exciting to me. 503 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: The only one that feels remotely exciting that I'd be 504 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: interested if my team got him and didn't have a quarterback. 505 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: I guess is Malik Willis. But you just said it 506 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: about Kyler. Two was pretty ineffective unless it was Mike 507 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: McDaniel's coaching him. So it feels like a desperation moment 508 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: if you don't have a quarterback. 509 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Sam Donald's experiment obviously worked, but if 510 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: said he. 511 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: Had won fourteen games the year before, like he had 512 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: shown some potential. 513 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: Sure, But honestly, though, if you put Sam Donald on 514 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals this year, they win five games. He 515 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: was not great this year and like that played out right. 516 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: He had the most turnovers in the league, so they 517 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: went to a super conservative offense. That's what the big 518 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: change was for them. And you know the playoffs, he 519 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: really didn't need to do much to the fort Niners game. 520 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: He was all world in the Rams game, that's why 521 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: we give him so much credit. And then he wasn't 522 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: so great in the Super Bowl. And that to me, 523 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 3: that isn't a line with a guy from you can 524 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: rank him from number twelve to number twenty, like he 525 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: is in that range of quarterback where on the right day, 526 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: Sam Donald can be a top five guy. On the 527 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: wrong day, he can be a bottom twenty five guy. 528 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: And you're gonna get a mixed back with Sam Donald. 529 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: What's been consistent for him is he said two years 530 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: now where the Vikings had a top three defense and 531 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: then Seattle had a top three defense. And if you're 532 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: a team you know we've talked about it in Minnesota 533 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: that has a good defense with a great defensive mine 534 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: of Flores, go out there, get him Mac Jones, go 535 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: out there and get him a leak, like give go, 536 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 3: go get someone the challenge JJ, because you got your 537 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: number one receiver coming out there and just shitting on 538 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: the kid. And now they've un followed each other on 539 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: social media and it's like that's a whole can of worms. Right, 540 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: you do need to if you're the Vikings, go out 541 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: there the new GM they bring in, and go get 542 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: a guy that we've just talked about. Go trade for 543 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: Mac because Mack has one year left on his deal 544 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: in the forty nine ers, go make a deal fourth 545 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: round or whatever you need to do, go get him. 546 00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: Same for him my leak. 547 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: Like I just we both saw like he changed going 548 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: from Tennessee to Green Bay. Like you designed an offense 549 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: around him, were using his legs, rolling him outside the pocket. 550 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: He is a weapon. Now can he hold up? 551 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: I would say it's not looking great where he basically 552 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: had limited snaps, and you take him had multiple little 553 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: injuries and those little limited snaps. 554 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: So I'm with you, Chad. 555 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: There's not much out there like there's that's and that's normal, right, 556 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: There's it's rarely anything out there. That's why Pittsburgh they 557 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: were fighting over Aaron Rodgers. That's how dark it was 558 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: last year. So yeah, it's sam Don a very unique 559 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: situation and that was, you know, something that I wish 560 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: I'd taken advantage. 561 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: I know we had fans reach out. 562 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: They bet I believe sixty to one of the Seahawks 563 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: when Gina Smith was still their quarterbacks. 564 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just never know. 565 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: You just never know. Still Murray seven stripes, you just 566 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: never know. Simon, we talked about this on Tuesday. You 567 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: happily trolled all the Patriots fans with all their takes 568 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: and all their chirping for the Super Bowl. Next season, 569 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: they have a first place schedule. You assume Drake Mayo 570 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: be healthy, well, Camp will be healthy, They'll still have 571 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: the same coaching staff. What is your prediction for next 572 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: year when they have their first play schedule. 573 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: I would obviously expect the major aggression. We've also seen 574 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl hangover is very. 575 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: Real's a losing team, especially. 576 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 2: Moving team especially. 577 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, like the teams that can get away with it, 578 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: they usually had Tom Braid or Patrick Mahomes and that 579 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: was it. Any other team that didn't have those two 580 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: guys usually have total meltdowns in season. And last year 581 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: you saw the Chiefs had their meltdown of season the 582 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: first time ever. 583 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: And what is it those the year after they lost 584 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. 585 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: So you know, I was being gracious saying they could 586 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 3: maybe get the five hundred, maybe become the seventh seed 587 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: next year, just because the schedule is so brutal going 588 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: through it. I mean, they play your division, chat like 589 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: your division is not easy. 590 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: By any metrics. 591 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, if you're the Patriots and I'm a fan 592 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: of their team, I'd be over the moon. 593 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: You have a twenty free year old quarterback, almost one MVP. 594 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: You have two really good coaches McDaniel's and obviously we 595 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: know Varyebel as a genius. And you know, when I 596 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: look at their team and I say, well, they have 597 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: sixty million dollars in cap to spend. If craft's not 598 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: cheap and spends that money, spend some on the offensive line, 599 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: spend some more, either on the D line or a linebacker, 600 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: they could easily win their division again. But we just 601 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: I think we're both in the same page. We expect 602 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: major regression. So I'm excited to whe the books Hangler 603 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 3: were total at I feel like a nine and a 604 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: half would be right. But if it opens anything above that, 605 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: if it opens a ten, hammer hammer, hammer that under. 606 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they opened a ten and 607 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: a half given the hype, you know, just wouldn't It 608 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. All Right, those are our questions today. 609 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna have more. As a reminder, we'll have new 610 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 1: episodes as of Sharper Square Tuesday Thursday during the NFL season. 611 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: Accept accept the last week of February. We're all taking 612 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: one week off. This has been Sharper Square, part of 613 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: the Volume podcast network. 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