Speaker 1: Oh mate, tonight it's gonna be so much fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we'll get like a few beers for later.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I might just grab some ale or something.
Speaker 1: What's that like? Beer? Okay, I'm just gonna get some
Speaker 1: bud light. Yeah, of course you are.
Speaker 4: Good morning. Welcome to the No Dunks Podcast on the
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Speaker 4: you're a Survivor fan. Okay, great start by me today, stumbling,
Speaker 4: tumbling all over these words. I'm already upset with the
Speaker 4: lee because I think there's a delay. Maybe there's not.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's me. Oh my god. Guys, quick note about
Speaker 4: all eleven games. That's what we're gonna try and do today.
Speaker 4: Will this be a four hour long podcast? Yeah, probably,
Speaker 4: but we'll do it our best to give it a
Speaker 4: quick little pace lee get us started. Yiannis and Middleton
Speaker 4: helped the Bucks defeat the Lakers one o nine, one
Speaker 4: oh two.
Speaker 3: What do you got Yeah, I haven't got a quick
Speaker 3: hit it for you guys, because honestly, this.
Speaker 4: Was the don't you fucking do play by play?
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do play by play, but honestly, watching
Speaker 3: Yannis last night, I mean this sends a message to
Speaker 3: the rest of the No. Middleton came back. He looked okay,
Speaker 3: didn't look his best, but he was okay, shot the
Speaker 3: ball and just added another layer there. But this is
Speaker 3: all about Yannis. Forty seven points on only twenty three shots,
Speaker 3: three for four from the free three point line and
Speaker 3: eight for eleven from the free throw line. And the
Speaker 3: Lakers were like, I don't want to defend this guy.
Speaker 3: No one wanted to defend him. Anthony Davis is like,
Speaker 3: I'm not doing all the scoring and having to defend
Speaker 3: this guy because Jannas. This is what Yannas when he
Speaker 3: saw Anthony Davis, he drove at him, he bodied him,
Speaker 3: he dirked him, and at one point Yannas was coming
Speaker 3: down in transition and Dwight was on the court, and
Speaker 3: so was Anthony Davis, and they both did the old
Speaker 3: yeah you get him, you get him. Yannas just stepped
Speaker 3: into a three. Now, his three is still a part
Speaker 3: of his game that he's working on, but when he
Speaker 3: steps into it with confidence in the rhythm like that
Speaker 3: he can take that shot and knock it down early
Speaker 3: in the game, fine, but oh my god, Like if
Speaker 3: you're the Lakers last night, this was one of those
Speaker 3: games where the Lakers theoretically were in this game. They
Speaker 3: led in the fourth quarter, but they never really felt
Speaker 3: like they were going to win this game because they
Speaker 3: just did not have an answer for a guy who
Speaker 3: just was doing what he wanted. If you look at
Speaker 3: the box score, Jannis only had nine rebounds and three
Speaker 3: assists by his standard, quite moderate game, but he just
Speaker 3: had such control and domination of this game that it
Speaker 3: was never really in doubt. And that's the problem here
Speaker 3: for the Lakers. It was just like, we're fighting hard,
Speaker 3: we're doing what we can, but we don't have Yarnas.
Speaker 3: Our best player is Anthony Davis. He was fine, but
Speaker 3: Yannis was just incredible. And as I say, Chris Middleton
Speaker 3: coming back hit a couple of threes. They certainly could
Speaker 3: use his extra offense out there. But it's just it's
Speaker 3: such an incredible difference when you have Yannis in control
Speaker 3: like that, and the Lakers and Frank Vogel and everyone
Speaker 3: was just like, we have literally no idea how to
Speaker 3: stop this guy. No, no team is like, oh we
Speaker 3: can stop Yannis. I mean when he's like that. But
Speaker 3: what I love about the evolution of his game is,
Speaker 3: you know, taking what the defense gives him. Okay, Anthony Davis,
Speaker 3: you're going to come up. They set a screen and
Speaker 3: there is literally no help defense whatsoever. He just takes
Speaker 3: those gigantic steps in and then just drops the ball
Speaker 3: into the basket a couple of times. Okay, Anthony Davis
Speaker 3: is going to face him one on one, boom, get
Speaker 3: out the way. I'm just going to go inside and
Speaker 3: have either a dunk or a layup. And then again
Speaker 3: when Davis did sort of push him back a little
Speaker 3: bit in the paint, as I say, he dirked him. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, Yannis was just on his game last night.
Speaker 3: Incredible performance. Closer in the final score than I felt
Speaker 3: the game was, but really just a fun fun watch.
Speaker 3: A little bit of shack in there, a little bit
Speaker 3: of Steph Curry, a little bit of Kevin Durant, a
Speaker 3: little bit of Dirk, a little bit of James Harden
Speaker 3: all rolled into.
Speaker 4: A but really number, there really was number.
Speaker 3: I mean, can you imagine if prime shack was just
Speaker 3: pulling up in transition for threes? I mean, that's kind
Speaker 3: of what it was. And then again, like I say,
Speaker 3: Janna says, point Yanna's and it's like set a screen
Speaker 3: and Davis is like, there's no way on fighting around
Speaker 3: the screen. Someone else can deal with him, And Yannis
Speaker 3: just said, okay, there's a layup, so beautiful game to watch,
Speaker 3: fun game to watch. Yannas incredible. The Bucks slow stuf
Speaker 3: haven't been playing all that well, but no need to
Speaker 3: really worry when you say performance like that last night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they have their big three sort of back
Speaker 4: here now with Middleton, Drew Holiday and you honest where
Speaker 4: you called Anthony Davis fine? I want more slander. I
Speaker 4: want more hate for ad. He's dropping the ball here
Speaker 4: with Noel Lebron. Where the hell is he? He has
Speaker 4: like one game? Yeah, it feels like every four or
Speaker 4: five games at this point, and a lot of the
Speaker 4: other time task seems a little like checked out Lollygagon.
Speaker 4: If we're being honest, I thought this guy's top seventy
Speaker 4: five all the time. He does not look like a
Speaker 4: superstar on most nights right now, again with no Lebron,
Speaker 4: that's my opinion.
Speaker 2: I guess he's a little bit like me. According to
Speaker 2: Charlie Tuesley in the stream, Charlie says Task is falling asleep.
Speaker 4: Oh geez, maybe AD.
Speaker 2: Is the difference between Ad and Yannis. It's quite a
Speaker 2: parent you know, watching this game. Yannis is a regular
Speaker 2: season monster, and there's always the debate in the playoffs
Speaker 2: since Ye's the best player in the game, is he
Speaker 2: the best player of the game. That's when Anthony Davis
Speaker 2: and Lebron, who has taught him very well, turn it on.
Speaker 2: But regular season Jannis is indestructible. He's just a different
Speaker 2: guy in the regular season. So Anthony Davis is not
Speaker 2: stepping up while Lebron is out. I honestly think Lebron
Speaker 2: has just taught him to bide his time during the
Speaker 2: regular season and be ready for the playoffs. Anthony Davis
Speaker 2: is coming off a postseason where he was not right
Speaker 2: when they lost to Phoenix in the first round. That's
Speaker 2: probably part of it, and he's a little bit in
Speaker 2: chill mode. And I'm sure he's not entirely thrilled with
Speaker 2: the Lakers construction roster construction where he has to guard
Speaker 2: Yanis one on one, but Jannis is ready for every
Speaker 2: single possession out there. There was the GQ article we
Speaker 2: touched on yesterday where Yanni said, listen, I just need
Speaker 2: a challenge every single season. I think he's just telling
Speaker 2: the front office I don't take regular season games off.
Speaker 2: You see me, I'm a different animal out there. I
Speaker 2: will not chill, and you as a front office can't
Speaker 2: chill either, which is what the Lakers are doing. I guess,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of like the Bucks are getting it
Speaker 2: together with all their healthy guys. If the Lakers do that,
Speaker 2: I think they you know, they'll be fine. They just
Speaker 2: want to finish top four, and they're definitely within that range.
Speaker 2: I think a good sign for them is that they're
Speaker 2: such a top heavy team. Their fourth highest player, Taylor
Speaker 2: Horton Tucker, had a team high twenty five and twelve.
Speaker 2: So if you're such a top heavy team, your your
Speaker 2: next guy's got to play pretty well, and they gave
Speaker 2: him an extension. The guy hasn't even played eighty two
Speaker 2: regular season games in his career, but he's playing pretty
Speaker 2: damn good since he's come back from injury twenty three
Speaker 2: and seven and shooting forty nine percent from the floor
Speaker 2: and hitting three so he could be a starter in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So yes, Anthony Davis is disappointing for sure,
Speaker 2: just like me, Charlie Tuesday falling asleep over here. But
Speaker 2: I get it. I get Lakers fans worrying. But isn't
Speaker 2: it just chill mode. I mean, that's what Lebron does.
Speaker 2: And then I think his taught his guy very well.
Speaker 4: Lee, you got the trifecta time I swift.
Speaker 3: These leaf blowers do not stop until ten oh five,
Speaker 3: whenever we stopped the show.
Speaker 4: That's been light YEP shows on.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: On the ground.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least we know they're actually just blowing something.
Speaker 4: At least though, all right, let's keep it going. We
Speaker 4: got too many games, Trey, You're up next, book or
Speaker 4: scored twenty four. Sons beat the MAVs for their tenth
Speaker 4: straight victory. Phoenix Suns on fire.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw a hater in the stream team earlier
Speaker 5: pre complaining that we were only going to be talking
Speaker 5: about the Bucks and the Bulls, and that we were
Speaker 5: going to ignore the Sun's ten game winning streak. And
Speaker 5: let me tell you, complaining two hours before a show
Speaker 5: starts really makes me not want to talk about the
Speaker 5: Suns winning ten straight games. But here's a bone throw
Speaker 5: for you. No Dantis for the MAVs. So it only
Speaker 5: took one quarter of real basketball for the Sons to
Speaker 5: get their tenth straight win. Six Sons scored five or
Speaker 5: more points in the fourth quarter to pull this one out.
Speaker 5: Chris Paul had six points and seven assists in the quarter,
Speaker 5: DeAndre eight and didn't miss a shot. He went four
Speaker 5: for four in the fourth got a sweet dish from
Speaker 5: Chris Paul for one of those assists.
Speaker 2: That was nice.
Speaker 5: And Devin Booker hit a three under a minute to
Speaker 5: ice things for Phoenix.
Speaker 4: This was a.
Speaker 5: Quality, professional win for the Suns. They didn't play great,
Speaker 5: but they executed down the stretch to get the win.
Speaker 5: I hope you're happy, Rexamus Prime. That one's for you,
Speaker 5: Rexamus Prime. Ten straight wins, you had to play one
Speaker 5: quarter against the team missing their best player.
Speaker 6: Congratulations.
Speaker 4: Moving on, Yeah, I mean we had Booker in the thumbnail.
Speaker 4: It was in the title of the show coming up,
Speaker 4: Like he said, two hours later, there you go, Suns
Speaker 4: though incredible ten straight that is wild task your up
Speaker 4: next year. Lillard rallies the Blazers to the one twelve
Speaker 4: one oh seven victory over Trey Kirby's Chicago Bulls. I
Speaker 4: think the Blazers are back to five hundred. They are
Speaker 4: they not?
Speaker 5: Are?
Speaker 2: Yeah? A weird season for them, seven to one at home,
Speaker 2: one and seven on the road. I talked to Jason
Speaker 2: Quick yesterday on the Athletic app. He's been covering the
Speaker 2: team for twenty four years.
Speaker 3: You think about that.
Speaker 2: That's older than probably Rexhimus Prime or are these people
Speaker 2: listening to our show at twenty four freaking years? Anyways,
Speaker 2: he painted a pretty bleak picture when I talked to him.
Speaker 2: He said, Nurkic isn't mentally tough enough. He's not that
Speaker 2: building block that Portland thought he was. Robert Covington is disappointing.
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna go to the bench eventually for this
Speaker 2: here little it's time to break up the CJ Dame backcourt.
Speaker 2: According to him, like people have been saying, he went
Speaker 2: deeper to say that some positives. Chauncey Billps is the
Speaker 2: guy that should be leading them moving forward as their
Speaker 2: head coach. He's playing well. And Damian Lillard, even though
Speaker 2: he's coming on recently, he was questionable going into last
Speaker 2: night against the Bulls. Well, he did play and it
Speaker 2: looked bad, very bad for the Blazers in the first half.
Speaker 2: They're down twenty points, and then things changed when Nurkish
Speaker 2: went to the bench in the third quarter, Larry Nance
Speaker 2: came in. And Larry Nance was their big offseason signing.
Speaker 2: I know, not a huge offseason signing for a lot
Speaker 2: of people, but he did a little of everything because
Speaker 2: this team just needs everything. He's sixteen to nine, three assists,
Speaker 2: three steels, played defense, initiated things, and then he went
Speaker 2: to the free throw line with sixteen seconds left. The
Speaker 2: Blazers fans were chanting Larry Larry, and I'm not sure
Speaker 2: that's been done before in his NBA career, So that's
Speaker 2: pretty cool for Larry Nance to have that happen. It
Speaker 2: is still a strange team where Larry Nance kind of
Speaker 2: has to be the savior and Nurkic played well when
Speaker 2: he came back into the game, but they don't get
Speaker 2: performances from enough guys on a regular basis, But Dame,
Speaker 2: you playing not a great game for him to Dame
Speaker 2: playing and being himself is good enough to get this
Speaker 2: team to five hundred, and that's what they're going to be.
Speaker 2: They may not be a top five team, but I
Speaker 2: don't know if Chauncey Bilbs pushed the right button with
Speaker 2: Larry Nance, and I don't know if he can push
Speaker 2: another button with niciir Little coming into the lineup. It's
Speaker 2: still a team that's in flux while this investigation into
Speaker 2: the front office is going on. But you know, when
Speaker 2: you got Dame Lillard top seventy five, I heard he's
Speaker 2: one of the top seventy five best, he's seventy six.
Speaker 4: I was corrected on here Ad and him.
Speaker 2: How horrendous a situation where you got a top seventy
Speaker 2: six in year seventy five here, But they're going to
Speaker 2: be fine, and that's I wasn't overwhelmed by this team.
Speaker 2: But they've got enough guys to be a playoff team
Speaker 2: in the West, which shows you how great Dame is.
Speaker 4: We know Trey was staying up late to watch some
Speaker 4: Blazers bulls. Would you see just quickly there Trey from Chicago,
Speaker 4: ultimately giving up that big lead.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen every Blazers game, but that felt to
Speaker 5: me like the best defensive quarter they'd played. In the
Speaker 5: third quarter, basically, when Larry Nance Junior checked in, it
Speaker 5: was almost like what the Bulls have been doing to
Speaker 5: other teams. Their bench has really brought the energy and
Speaker 5: that has flipped the script in a lot of Chicago's wins.
Speaker 5: Didn't happen last night. The Blazers played a lot harder
Speaker 5: in the third quarter. They looked completely disinterested in the
Speaker 5: first half. Like Lillard looked terrible in the first half.
Speaker 5: He looked like he did not want to be out there.
Speaker 5: Turned it on a little bit in the second, but
Speaker 5: it was really Larry Nance Junior, like tass Is saying,
Speaker 5: the Bulls were just playing sloppy, playing lack of daisical.
Speaker 6: I think they had ten turnovers in the third quarter.
Speaker 5: That gave the Blazers a ton of confidence, so that
Speaker 5: when Nurkic came back in, the Balls didn't have an answer.
Speaker 5: They were missing Booch big time last night. Still had
Speaker 5: a chance to win it down the stretch, just not
Speaker 5: quite good enough execution. DeRozan slipped and fell again. I
Speaker 5: know he likes to wear old Kobe's, but yeah, gotta
Speaker 5: check the treads on those, I think beforehand. And Zach
Speaker 5: Lavine had a wide open three that could have tied
Speaker 5: the game, and he missed it pretty badly. He was
Speaker 5: kind of off in the fourth quarter as well. Balls
Speaker 5: just didn't play good enough in the second half to win.
Speaker 4: All right. Our next game here, lou Dort dropped your
Speaker 4: Dort's in the stream team all Caplocks. He scored thirty
Speaker 4: four as the Thunder beat the Rockets one to one
Speaker 4: eighty nine, his fifth straight game here scoring twenty points
Speaker 4: at least, and in the final five minutes he took over,
Speaker 4: he scored nine down the stretch. I saw Andrew Schlecht
Speaker 4: tweet this morning. Dort ranks fifth overall in scoring for
Speaker 4: the twenty nineteen draft class. For this season, lou Dort
Speaker 4: was undrafted. It's John Moran, It's Tayling Horton. Tucker's only
Speaker 4: played in three games, Tyler Hero, Darius Garland, and then
Speaker 4: lud Dort, which is pretty wild. I needed to apologize
Speaker 4: to OKAC fans because back on October twenty fourth, I
Speaker 4: wondered on Twitter is okay, see going to win ten
Speaker 4: games now? The answer to that is absolutely yes. They
Speaker 4: started ozh to four, which had me tweeting that, and
Speaker 4: now they're six and eight, so they've turned it around.
Speaker 4: They beat the Lakers twice, it's like the Magic playing
Speaker 4: the Necks for whatever reason. They beat the Spurs, they
Speaker 4: beat the Pelicans, they beat the Kings and now the
Speaker 4: shitty Rockets. So I think they have proved provenly that
Speaker 4: the Thunder have that they are not in the bottom
Speaker 4: tier of the NBA. They are one step above a
Speaker 4: lot of these other teams. And you know, I know
Speaker 4: Thunder fans are pretty happy with that, especially with the
Speaker 4: way Dort was playing last night, and he's on a
Speaker 4: nice little run right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Josh Giddy had another double double as well.
Speaker 3: He did He's been playing really well. And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: All those teams you mentioned there, like they should beat
Speaker 3: the Rockets, and they did and the Kings as well.
Speaker 3: So you know, the Lakers though, they were two good wins,
Speaker 3: two quality wins, no doubt about that. So good on
Speaker 3: the Thunder. Because I was with you there, I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where they're going to get their ten
Speaker 3: victories from But right now, I guess they're on pace
Speaker 3: for closer to probably twenty and that's good for them,
Speaker 3: So they are fine to watch. When you see Doughty
Speaker 3: out there, he's got Does he bring you back the
Speaker 3: Kung Fu headband? Am I seeing that? I'm not sure?
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's all energy, all hustle and uh again
Speaker 3: for a guy undrafted and he's on that tiny contract too,
Speaker 3: he is really giving way more value than he's getting
Speaker 3: for his for his in return.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm heading down to the Fortress on Monday night
Speaker 4: here in Atlanta to watch Sga and Dort the human
Speaker 4: cinder block kick on the Hawks. Yeah. I want to
Speaker 4: go see them play in person and getting as well.
Speaker 4: Like you said at a beautiful yeah, left handed fling
Speaker 4: passed dame to what grell That guy with the three
Speaker 4: names name Jeremiah.
Speaker 6: Robinson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I always want to say Earl first too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2: Call him Earl.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're on pace for thirty five wins though, yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought they'd be.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I also thought they'd definitely be the worst team in
Speaker 2: the league. Good four to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, it's instead the Rockets or the Pelicans. I
Speaker 4: guess Rockets have lost thirteen straight. Should John Wall maybe
Speaker 4: be playing? I mean at this point, like it's pretty embarrassing,
Speaker 4: Like they're getting hammered by some of the teams that
Speaker 4: they should at least be in games with. Now they
Speaker 4: beat the Thunder, there's the one win about a month ago,
Speaker 4: but uh, this is this is really really bad and uh,
Speaker 4: you know John Wall could technically be playing and he's not. Okay,
Speaker 4: a good dork game there Lee Magic. It rallied late
Speaker 4: to beat the Knicks one O four ninety eight to
Speaker 4: stop a three game slide.
Speaker 3: Well, if you only to see the Magic play the
Speaker 3: Nicks in Madison Square, God in this season, you think
Speaker 3: the Magic are a pretty good team. They're a weird team.
Speaker 3: You look at their front court starting lineup. They got
Speaker 3: from Wagner at six ten, They've got Barmber at what's
Speaker 3: seven to two, and then they've got Wendell Carter about
Speaker 3: seven foot as well. Like that's a weird front court.
Speaker 3: And then you've got Cole Anthony and Jalen Suggs in
Speaker 3: the back court. But really the story of this is
Speaker 3: the same problems are there for the next in that
Speaker 3: their starting unit and their bench unit are just playing
Speaker 3: completely different basketball. We've talked a lot about Evan forty eight.
Speaker 3: This stat came from Tommy Beer this morning. Evan Fournier
Speaker 3: has been benched for the entire fourth quarter in six
Speaker 3: of the last seven Knicks games. He's played five out
Speaker 3: of a possible eighty four minutes during that seven game stretch.
Speaker 5: So it's all Marlos Boozer stint right there. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: get to start, you get to play through three quarters,
Speaker 5: and I do not want to see you try to
Speaker 5: guard anybody in the four.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Knicks, you know, Derrick Rose has probably
Speaker 3: been their most consistent player again this season, and he
Speaker 3: had a couple of errors late last night. Jalen Suggs,
Speaker 3: I thought it was actually really good for them, getting
Speaker 3: a couple of steels. He said he was a football
Speaker 3: or he used to play football, and he said he
Speaker 3: was picking off plays like a football player. I don't
Speaker 3: know what position he plays, but read them well and
Speaker 3: finished strongly. So yeah, the magic at a second win
Speaker 3: in Madison Square Garden. Really solid performance from a team that,
Speaker 3: again we've seen them just be terrible at home, but
Speaker 3: something about being in Madison Square Garden gets the best
Speaker 3: out of these guys and Cole Anthony was bing bonging
Speaker 3: the crowd after the game. Didn't have a great game himself,
Speaker 3: but a very impressive win. And something's going to have
Speaker 3: to change there for the Knicks. Whether it's forty a
Speaker 3: out of that starting lineup, I'm not sure, but it
Speaker 3: seems that would be the most likely switch up right now.
Speaker 3: Get a manual in there, I think. But another bad
Speaker 3: loss for the Knicks. Look like they we're going to
Speaker 3: have that avalanche run, had the big lead in the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, couldn't close it out.
Speaker 4: Oh when Albi Toppin was splashing threes, Madison Square Garden
Speaker 4: was going bonkers again, I was like, yeah, they're going
Speaker 4: to do this, They're going to pull this game off,
Speaker 4: and yeah, goods to the magic. I mean, do you
Speaker 4: see Franz Wagner's bunk in trance shit? Yeah, Oh it
Speaker 4: caught me by surprise, Like that was on guys in
Speaker 4: like a tight game, was like a couple of minutes
Speaker 4: to go. I mean, MSG like gasped, whoa.
Speaker 5: I thought it was also impressive for him to make
Speaker 5: that move after look like Bob Coosey handling the ball.
Speaker 4: All the time.
Speaker 5: The guy is not a fluid athlete, but he gets
Speaker 5: up and slams hard.
Speaker 4: So the front Yeah, for sure. Anything to add task
Speaker 4: to that game. The Magic rallying there to beat the
Speaker 4: Knicks in MSG. Yeah, what like the Thunder oddly had
Speaker 4: the Lakers number. It appears the Magic have the Knicks
Speaker 4: number too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got freaky Franz. You got Jalen Suggs out there,
Speaker 2: guys who don't put it together every night, but when
Speaker 2: they do it's special. Along with Cole Anthony and Mobomber,
Speaker 2: as League calls him, there's there's a there's a lot
Speaker 2: of talent along with Wendell Carter. But yeah, they can't
Speaker 2: put it together all the time, but you have Franz.
Speaker 2: Wagner is going to have a nice little dunk tape
Speaker 2: when this season is done. I mean he plays off
Speaker 2: guys pretty well. You can't, yeah, really create for himself.
Speaker 2: But it's great slasher, great pick where he he was
Speaker 2: drafted this year of me some Fronz.
Speaker 4: Next one, Hornets beat the Wizards ninety seven to eighty
Speaker 4: seven for their fourth straight victory. Trey, what do you
Speaker 4: got from this? What's your take on it?
Speaker 6: If I were given this game a name.
Speaker 5: It would be BrickOS for sickos, because you had to
Speaker 5: be a sicko to watch this absolute brickfest. The Wizards
Speaker 5: went eight for forty two from three, that's nineteen percent
Speaker 5: the winning team. The Hornets ten for thirty two, a
Speaker 5: whopping thirty one percent from three point land. For the
Speaker 5: full game, Charlotte shot forty four percent and the Wizards
Speaker 5: shot thirty seven. Basically, the Hornets zoned up in the
Speaker 5: second half and the Zards couldn't shoot him out of
Speaker 5: it thirty six points in the second half for Washington.
Speaker 5: The worst culprits were their point guards. You brutal spencer
Speaker 5: Dinwiddie twenty nine minutes, didn't score over five on the night.
Speaker 5: His backups, Howel Netto and Aaron Holiday five combined points
Speaker 5: on two of twelve shooting. None of those point guards
Speaker 5: scored until the fourth quarter. LaMelo, he had a lot
Speaker 5: of points. He went four of eighteen from the field,
Speaker 5: somehow got a career high fourteen assists. He must have
Speaker 5: had an assist on every basket that the horn has made,
Speaker 5: but a weird one. Four straight wins for the four Nets,
Speaker 5: a nice recovery after five straight losses.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I made a big reaction there when you said
Speaker 4: didn't when he went for zero points, because for the
Speaker 4: first time in a long time, I decided to play
Speaker 4: a little daily Fantasy sports last night, so I was
Speaker 4: building my roster. I was like, Didnwitty, he's been playing, well,
Speaker 4: you can put him in on the cheap, you know,
Speaker 4: saved some money. I can play Giannis, I can play.
Speaker 4: I went with Towns. He didn't have a monster game
Speaker 4: and then zero points. There's a reason why you don't.
Speaker 4: I don't play this. It's like, ah, and it's always
Speaker 4: looks bad because I'm in a league and all this
Speaker 4: guy's the NBA expert. I finished dead last last night.
Speaker 4: Fuck didn Witty?
Speaker 2: You killed?
Speaker 5: Yeah? That was clearly his worst game of the year.
Speaker 5: He just looked like he's just jilling.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Bradley Beal was back. Maybe he's trying to let him
Speaker 5: kind of get his feet under him. Bial had an
Speaker 5: OK game, but Didn't Witty incredibly passive. He must have
Speaker 5: known you had some money on him.
Speaker 2: I guess, So how many guys were You're dead last?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it wasn't look he wasn't my only
Speaker 4: bad pick.
Speaker 6: It was don't get me wrong. I picked the higher
Speaker 6: roster of truck.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's the one where like you're building your roster with
Speaker 4: a certain amount of money, right, so Jannis is like
Speaker 4: the highest ranked so whatever he goes for, like I
Speaker 4: don't know what it was like thirteen k let's say,
Speaker 4: and then you got to try and find the gems
Speaker 4: at thirty five hundred to five thousand, and I don't know.
Speaker 4: I went with did with you? I thought he'd be
Speaker 4: well play well.
Speaker 2: It's like a division of like ten teams or twenty
Speaker 2: teams or.
Speaker 4: There were six. There were six, six guys playing last
Speaker 4: night with their lineups.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you weren't ten thousand.
Speaker 4: That's a dead last. No no, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 4: let's play it. Yeah, that's true. That would have been
Speaker 4: bad if I was dead last out of ten thousand entries.
Speaker 4: I was dead last out of six.
Speaker 2: Entries, only five guys making funny and no big.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 4: That's true. All right, our next one here, Anthony Edwards
Speaker 4: closes out the Timberwolves one oh seven ninety seven win
Speaker 4: against the Sacramento Kings. Oh yeah, it was the King's
Speaker 4: Wolves Bowl task. What do you have?
Speaker 2: Yeah, another Battie Ricos for Sikos. As Trey said, it
Speaker 2: was ugly. Anthony Edwards finished the job and it provided
Speaker 2: the best quote as well. He's just quotatious. I don't
Speaker 2: know how the Wolves came back and won this thing.
Speaker 2: They were allowing the Kig just to grab every offensive
Speaker 2: rebound in the first quarter because the Kings were missing
Speaker 2: all their shots. They had twelve offensive rebounds in the
Speaker 2: first sixteen minutes of this game. Had those possessions where
Speaker 2: you just see those those balls bounce off and get
Speaker 2: multiple shots. They had a couple possession, two possessions where
Speaker 2: they had four shot attempts. But head coach of the Wolves,
Speaker 2: Chris Finch, woke them up at half. This is how
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards put it. He said, you got Finchy in
Speaker 2: there yelling. It's calling him Finchy. Yeah, that one's free
Speaker 2: ule And he said, that's not him. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. When he doing that, we got to tighten up.
Speaker 2: He banging on the door. We got to tighten up.
Speaker 2: We can't have Finchy in here acting out a character.
Speaker 2: We for sure had to find a way to rebound.
Speaker 2: They did that. They came back and they beat a
Speaker 2: Kings team who is now out of the play in
Speaker 2: tournament picture. Those two teams should be battling for a
Speaker 2: playing tournament spot.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: The Wolves have the Spurs coming to town on Thursday,
Speaker 2: which is another team that's sort of in that mix.
Speaker 2: But they're focused on following up a win, following up
Speaker 2: win with another decent performance because last week in LA
Speaker 2: they beat the Lakers and then they followed it up
Speaker 2: with a big fart game against the Clippers. And I
Speaker 2: guess they partied it up in LA because Anthony Edwards
Speaker 2: said this after the game taking They'll be taking a
Speaker 2: different approach after this one, they said, he said, quote,
Speaker 2: We're going to stay in the house, get on the
Speaker 2: video game, call a couple of teammates, Torre and Prince
Speaker 2: Patrick Beverley. Let's play Call of Duty till you get sleepy.
Speaker 2: You get sleepy for sleep It's a different routine tonight,
Speaker 2: for sure. So I guess they partied. Now they're going
Speaker 2: to get sleepy together virtually. I guess that's the plan.
Speaker 2: And the story really is Luke Walton, head coach of
Speaker 2: the Sacramento Kings, they lose how many more games games
Speaker 2: can it last? I know you tweeted out the Tristan
Speaker 2: Thompson speech postgame skeets where you're saying, you know, no
Speaker 2: mother coach should have to motivate you to play basketball.
Speaker 2: It's not up to Luke Walton for us. Tristan Thompson
Speaker 2: plays for the Kings, by the way, he shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be Luke Walton. And that's the problem. I
Speaker 2: guess when Tristan Thompson's the vocal leader, it should be
Speaker 2: coming from the starting unit. Anyways, they're not playing hard.
Speaker 2: The Wolves walked all over them, and this can't go
Speaker 2: on all season. I know, if Luke Walton gets them
Speaker 2: to play some games in there in the play in tournament, sure,
Speaker 2: but now they've dropped out. Okay, see has freaking taken
Speaker 2: their spot officially, and so Luke has got to be
Speaker 2: on the hot seat for you know, the coming month.
Speaker 2: I mean, if they're out of it in the coming month,
Speaker 2: then I don't see how you keep going this way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say seek out Tristan Thompson's postgame interview.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like a two minute rant where he
Speaker 4: is saying he is talking for all the guys in
Speaker 4: the locker roo though he is my favorite part, you
Speaker 4: know about you know, playing with a little more energy
Speaker 4: and a little more effort, and that it's not on
Speaker 4: Luke Walton. I mean, I guess he's He's right, I
Speaker 4: get what he's saying. But it would be nice if
Speaker 4: your coach could maybe have a defensive game plan inspire
Speaker 4: you to like give it your best effort out there too,
Speaker 4: Like both could be true. Yeah, I don't think he's
Speaker 4: going to be around long here, Luke. They have these
Speaker 4: are games, Like they had hopes when they went on
Speaker 4: this road trip because of who they were playing, that
Speaker 4: they would like maybe have a winning road trip, maybe
Speaker 4: even go undefeated on the road trip, And of course
Speaker 4: the exact opposite happens here, so that's not good. As
Speaker 4: for Finchy firing up his team, do you think he
Speaker 4: threw a kettle over the arena?
Speaker 3: I think that's the only way at everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Luke Walton should try that.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I just anytime someone says Finchy, I
Speaker 3: just have to resist putting up some sort of quote
Speaker 3: or mame or video of the of the Finchy from
Speaker 3: the office, because it's just perfect. Chris Finch, the Finchy all.
Speaker 4: Right, we'll keep it going here. Decent pace. Corey Joseph
Speaker 4: led the Pistons to a ninety seven to eighty nine
Speaker 4: comeback win over the Pacers. Yeah, let's talk Pacers, Matt, Really,
Speaker 4: let's talk Pistons.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Definitely another breakos for Sikos. Not a pretty game. I
Speaker 4: watched a decent amount of this one. What was wrong
Speaker 4: with me? Both teams shop below forty three percent from
Speaker 4: the floor, under thirty percent on three pointers. But tassh
Speaker 4: watching this game just couldn't help think of you, man
Speaker 4: Clutch Cad. It continues. Cunningham entered the game about halfway
Speaker 4: through the fourth quarter. Detroit is down too, so it's
Speaker 4: a close game. What does he do? He knocks down
Speaker 4: a smooth turnaround jumper to tie the game up. Really
Speaker 4: really nice. This guy plays in control, especially as a rookie.
Speaker 4: He followed that up with a little drive into the paint,
Speaker 4: drew a double team, really weird double team being honest
Speaker 4: from the Pacers, kicked it to a wide open Corey
Speaker 4: Joseph splashed the three Pistons had the lead back. Then
Speaker 4: Cad extends the lead thanks to a little beautiful dry
Speaker 4: and like double clutch finish inside and then sort of
Speaker 4: finally here he floated through the lane and then kicked
Speaker 4: the ball to the corner for a Frank Jackson three
Speaker 4: and Detroit was back up five. They held on. He
Speaker 4: missed a couple bunnies too that probably actually hurt his
Speaker 4: like clutch shooting, you know, a game within five in
Speaker 4: the final five minutes. But he was great and he's
Speaker 4: playing well. I saw Detroit bad boys task. They're wondering
Speaker 4: what do they call him? Is it? Here are their options,
Speaker 4: clutch cad, Caid clutch, clutch cating ham or Caid clutching ham?
Speaker 2: What was it? Clutching katingham?
Speaker 4: I do like I do like Caid clutching ham.
Speaker 2: He was like, I hope he's coming a Thanksgiving dinner
Speaker 2: because I would love for him to be clutching a
Speaker 2: ham coming in. I would love that cam underrated ethics
Speaker 2: it is it is ham sucks.
Speaker 4: No sucks.
Speaker 5: Ham is the worst meat that is commonly served at
Speaker 5: any meal. No, it's there's a reason. There's a reason
Speaker 5: people are like, nobody wants ham, maybe at Easter, but
Speaker 5: even then you're like, it's only Easter.
Speaker 6: Get that ham. Agree, as I'm.
Speaker 4: Concerned he was great, and the Pistons one we got
Speaker 4: to get The poll up is is Ham overrated?
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 5: You know what?
Speaker 4: Is good? My final note from this game, I tweeted
Speaker 4: it last night. Frank Jackson's mustache is incredible. This guy
Speaker 4: looks awesome right now, Ryan Wolstott, he tweeted at me,
Speaker 4: it's like he's time warped from the eighties and even
Speaker 4: his jumper looks like it's from that era. So anyway,
Speaker 4: it's it's a beautiful looking stash. It's inspiring me. I
Speaker 4: still owe a bunch of pick and payoffs. I still
Speaker 4: plan on maybe getting rid of the beard and showing
Speaker 4: up here one of these days, probably for our final
Speaker 4: show with a mustache. But yeah, what do you think
Speaker 4: of that?
Speaker 5: Sad boy?
Speaker 3: I do think it does look like nighties NBA basketball
Speaker 3: player for sure.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't watch a whole lot of this one,
Speaker 3: to be honest. I saw the Paces and I saw
Speaker 3: the Pistons. I was in the NFL red zoning it
Speaker 3: last night, and I've just keep my eye on the
Speaker 3: score and I'm like, yeah, the Paces lose that one.
Speaker 3: Come on, the Paces should be better than the Pistons,
Speaker 3: but they're They're weird. They are very pieces are a
Speaker 3: weird team the more.
Speaker 4: I've watched them here the last couple of days. But good,
Speaker 4: good wins from.
Speaker 2: Yeah Pacers are what I just want to jump in.
Speaker 2: I love I love the mustache. I'm a big Frank fan.
Speaker 2: I always thought he could pull off the Rick Fox run,
Speaker 2: which is like being a sporting player, hit some threes,
Speaker 2: look extremely handsome, and win some championships, you know, own
Speaker 2: an E league team after his career is done. He
Speaker 2: can do that. He can pull the Rick Fox. I think, uh,
Speaker 2: and I just hope I hope teams don't start doubling
Speaker 2: Kate because that could be the end of clutch kating
Speaker 2: Ham Kat and clutching Ham. That could be the end
Speaker 2: of it. Just stop. I think there should be a
Speaker 2: rule implemented. I mean, it's the Pistons. Just let them,
Speaker 2: let them hold the ball up.
Speaker 4: It sound like it sounds like Devin Booker here.
Speaker 2: No double team, Yeah, well kind of. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you can't beat the Pistons without doubling Kid, then you stink.
Speaker 2: And that's that's what could happen. In the last six minutes.
Speaker 2: Even the Pistons broadcast put up the stat as he
Speaker 2: was coming into the game. He's six of eight in
Speaker 2: clutch situations coming into this game, and yeah, he missed
Speaker 2: a couple bunnies or whatever, but yeah, he's he's so
Speaker 2: good and it's so fun to watch him in those
Speaker 2: final minutes hold the ball. But if you're an opposing coach,
Speaker 2: I mean, get it out of his hands.
Speaker 4: Well, but that's he will willingly give it up though.
Speaker 4: This is what's great about him, especially he does not
Speaker 4: like force his shot. I mean, he's athletic enough that
Speaker 4: I'm sure he feels like he could get his shot
Speaker 4: a lot of time against a lot of these defenders.
Speaker 4: But he plays with, you know, in the flow of
Speaker 4: a game, and he's not like gunning for numbers by
Speaker 4: any means, because those aren't going to blow you away.
Speaker 4: But he's been one of the more impressive rookies in
Speaker 4: a really good rookie class. As we've talked about a
Speaker 4: couple of times. I thought he was awesome again down
Speaker 4: stretch here, And yeah, I mean, maybe the f the
Speaker 4: game plan will be to run more guys at him,
Speaker 4: but then you know, it's Corey, Joseph and tre Lal's
Speaker 4: game and Jeremy Grant had a big Bucketlely too. Okay, wow,
Speaker 4: we're going to do this. Maybe here three games left.
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler triple double in his return hit top the
Speaker 4: Pelicans won thirteen ninety eight. Lee, Was this one of
Speaker 4: those ones that you were checking in on last night?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, the Pelicans in the last week have actually
Speaker 3: been somewhat competitive against the Nets last Friday night that
Speaker 3: was kind of close and Nets pulled out. They've got
Speaker 3: to win against the Grizzlies. They led by nineteen against
Speaker 3: the Wizards the other night before losing, and they actually
Speaker 3: started off this game pretty well as well against the Heat.
Speaker 3: But I feel with the Pelicans. Teams look at them,
Speaker 3: and you know how we talk about sometimes that a
Speaker 3: bad team can sneak up on other teams and get
Speaker 3: a few wins. I think that's what's happening. People look
Speaker 3: at the Pelicans. I think we're going to beat this team.
Speaker 3: But it's a little bit hard sometimes to get that
Speaker 3: motivation at the start of the game because New Orleans
Speaker 3: did come out firing. But you've sort of just knew
Speaker 3: the Heat we're going to come back. No, Kyle Lowry
Speaker 3: here for the Heat. I expect you will be back tonight.
Speaker 3: And then Tyler Hero started and hit a crazy going
Speaker 3: for an alley oop, but actually just went in on
Speaker 3: the fast break three pointer. He is such a good
Speaker 3: shoot of the ball, but not much to take out
Speaker 3: of a Jimmy Butler. Yeah, the triple double with almost
Speaker 3: the Jason Kidds style triple double with the ten rebounds,
Speaker 3: ten assists.
Speaker 4: The Heat were a better team.
Speaker 3: They just really did look like they were kind of
Speaker 3: asleep in the first half. When it was winning time,
Speaker 3: they came out and got the job done. But yeah,
Speaker 3: for the Pelicans, they can at least say they've been
Speaker 3: respectful in this last week as far as competitiveness goes
Speaker 3: and getting one win against the Grizzlies, but they just can't.
Speaker 3: They don't have the talent, they don't have the depth.
Speaker 3: I don't think to really be able to get too
Speaker 3: many wins this season. Zion I think is back. They
Speaker 3: were saying can do start doing five on five stuff,
Speaker 3: So that's a good sign for him, but still feels
Speaker 3: like he's at least a month away right now from
Speaker 3: any real on court action.
Speaker 4: In regards to Jimmy Butler, I checked this morning he
Speaker 4: jumped Kevin Durant on Basketball Reference MVP tracker. That big
Speaker 4: performance there last night got him up to third. It's Curry,
Speaker 4: Jokic Butler right now, one two three again according to
Speaker 4: Basketball Reference. Okay, two games left here, Trey Harden and
Speaker 4: the Nets outlast the short handed Cavaliers one O nine
Speaker 4: to ninety nine. What do you got from this one?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Nuts got up pretty big in the first half
Speaker 5: in this one, stretched out to twenty three points.
Speaker 6: A first half lead. It's not real though.
Speaker 5: Calves played hard enough in the second half. They hit
Speaker 5: some shots, made it close, but completely out gunned in
Speaker 5: this one.
Speaker 6: Really.
Speaker 5: No Evan Mobley, no Colin Sexton, no Jared Allen, no
Speaker 5: Lowry Markinin, no Lamar Stevens evens. Meanwhile, the Nets had
Speaker 5: four twenty points scorers. Harden had twenty seven, LaMarcus Aldridge
Speaker 5: twenty four, Durant twenty three, Patty Mills twenty. I'll be honest,
Speaker 5: getting a little worried about the caves here. That's five
Speaker 5: straight games scoring less than one hundred points, and that
Speaker 5: all started once Colin Sexton went out for the season.
Speaker 5: They're missing is off the dribble game. They're missing his
Speaker 5: transition game, getting Jared Allen back from an illness is
Speaker 5: certainly gonna help. He'll put pressure on the rim. But
Speaker 5: it's still a couple of weeks uh for Evan Mobley.
Speaker 5: And in the next month the Cavs play the Warriors, Nets, Suns, Heat, Jazz, Bucks,
Speaker 5: and Bulls. They're gonna have a tough goal. But here
Speaker 5: missing one their best perimeter offensive players. Feels like we
Speaker 5: might be getting a repeat of last year's Cleveland Cavaliers
Speaker 5: season where they get off to a hot start, the
Speaker 5: young guys are looking good, and then as the season
Speaker 5: wears on, injuries happen and the team just kind of
Speaker 5: falls off. But it's been it's been a fun first
Speaker 5: month for the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 4: It's true we talked about them a lot. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: Rubio All Star chances took a hit maybe there last
Speaker 4: night and might continue to. But what are you going
Speaker 4: to do to us? It was it was a fun
Speaker 4: couple weeks.
Speaker 2: It's great. I mean, I feel a little bit better
Speaker 2: than last year and the year before that we had
Speaker 2: the B line situation. This year, it's more like you
Speaker 2: lose your top scorer in Collin Sexton. He lose rookie
Speaker 2: of the year leader in Evan Mobley. There's other injuries.
Speaker 2: Feels a little bit more understandable, you can wrap your
Speaker 2: head around. But yeah, they miss calling sexon big time.
Speaker 2: If you're you can't. As much as I'm a Ricky
Speaker 2: Rubio fan, speaking of handsome men, you can't be relying
Speaker 2: on him to drop twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: You just can't.
Speaker 2: And they they are. They're really banged up, even besides
Speaker 2: those two guys I mentioned. So yeah, it's not looking good,
Speaker 2: but you know, at least they got a good start here.
Speaker 4: Our final game the balanced Hawks, they won their third
Speaker 4: straight beat. The Celtics won ten ninety nine. Tass Have
Speaker 4: the Hawks turned it around here?
Speaker 2: They have, But they beat a team in the Celtics
Speaker 2: that just can't hit shots. You know how people say
Speaker 2: it's amazing to go watch warm ups at an NBA game.
Speaker 2: NBA players don't miss. That's not the Celtics. The Celtics
Speaker 2: miss a lot, even wide open shots. If you look
Speaker 2: at the deep into the stats wide open three point
Speaker 2: shots for the Celtics where an opponent is six feet
Speaker 2: or further away, they're still only hitting one in three
Speaker 2: of those shots. So they went on this three game trip,
Speaker 2: and they failed to score one hundred points, even with
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, you know, dropping thirty four here against the Hawks.
Speaker 2: They obviously missed Jalen Brown, but they may not have
Speaker 2: the roster to hit freaking shots around these guys. Is
Speaker 2: it play aaron Ne Smithmore, who I like but you know,
Speaker 2: doesn't play a lot for this team. He's small, he hits.
Speaker 2: He was fifty percent shooter in college a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago from three point Land kind of has done
Speaker 2: a good job of getting guys to play hard defensively,
Speaker 2: but there's just wide open shots and they are seriously
Speaker 2: clanking them over and over and over again. To me,
Speaker 2: one of the best things to watch as a longtime
Speaker 2: Raptor fan is Damon Stodommeire on the bench. He's an
Speaker 2: assistant to Ima Udoka and he's a cool looking guy.
Speaker 2: I like the look. And if you want to go
Speaker 2: back to suits for Damon Stodomire, I'm okay with that
Speaker 2: because I think he looks great in a suit. These
Speaker 2: are old coaching photos of Damon Stodomire, obviously not wearing
Speaker 2: it now with the Celtics, but he looks like a
Speaker 2: good good suit wear. Maybe it's because he's five ten.
Speaker 2: You know, there's not a lot of long limbs. But
Speaker 2: I don't know. He looks good.
Speaker 4: I saw you tweeting about Frank Vogel and his quarter
Speaker 4: zip last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Have you started to turn on coaches looking like schleps
Speaker 4: out there on the sidelines? You want this these nice.
Speaker 2: Looks, Leppie, huh, I just like Frank's dad face?
Speaker 4: Really okay? Yeah he was very Yeah, all right there
Speaker 4: it is all eleven games, a note about all of them.
Speaker 4: I know some of you were upset. Didn't talk long
Speaker 4: enough about your team. Oh well, you'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Actually no, you won't. It's our last show, so joke's
Speaker 4: on you. We'll take our first break care when we
Speaker 4: come back the up down report. I was gonna say,
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Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 4: I see? Oh, oh, I see what's happened here?
Speaker 5: Yeah, j.
Speaker 4: That's a horrible last show. I was stumbling and bubbling
Speaker 4: at the beginning. Lee's Wi Fi always sucked. Now JD's gone.
Speaker 4: We just looked at demon Stodamer's beautiful suit for a couple.
Speaker 5: Of Let me take a quick pull of you three
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do it.
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
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Speaker 4: All right, back with no dunks. Hold on by a
Speaker 4: thread here. I think JD's with us. He said his
Speaker 4: power went out. Are you back? Yeah? Everything, Okay, something
Speaker 4: got unplugged.
Speaker 7: The circuit got broken. We got guys working in the
Speaker 7: house here, so yeah, hanging on by a thread is right.
Speaker 4: That's all right. We'll make it through it. Also, when
Speaker 4: I think of Metallica, the first two names I think
Speaker 4: of Lee are you and Samuel L. Jackson. Now, okay,
Speaker 4: let's get into the ump down report. Yeah, the updown
Speaker 4: Report got a few questions for you guys. You can
Speaker 4: throw some thumbs on it, thumbs up or thumbs down.
Speaker 4: Do the same to the stream team. Jady sometimes has
Speaker 4: a chance to share some of your responses. First, one
Speaker 4: Staple Center get a new name. Starting Christmas Day, it
Speaker 4: will be Crypto dot Com Arena, The downtown LA home
Speaker 4: of the Lakers, Clippers, NHL's Kings, WNBA Sparks, will change
Speaker 4: its names after twenty two years of operation. According to
Speaker 4: multiple reports, Crypto dot Com pays seven hundred million dollars
Speaker 4: over twenty years to rename the building. Okay, see you later,
Speaker 4: Staple Center up or down on this trey get us started,
Speaker 4: Staple Center getting renamed Crypto dot Com Arena.
Speaker 5: Totally totally sideways on this one's keets. On one hand,
Speaker 5: Crypto dot Com Arena, that's a major down. You can't
Speaker 5: put dot com in a title. It's ridiculous. But on
Speaker 5: the other hand, to me, Staple Center neither an iconic
Speaker 5: building nor an iconic name. Many iconic things happened there.
Speaker 5: It's been around for twenty two years. I have shirts
Speaker 5: that are older than the Staple Center, So to me,
Speaker 5: it's an office supply store.
Speaker 6: In twenty twenty one, there.
Speaker 5: Was an episode of The Office made saying how office
Speaker 5: supplies are outdated, and that was made in two thousand
Speaker 5: and seven. Nobody goes to Staples, Nobody uses Staples.
Speaker 6: Do you have a stapler in your house?
Speaker 4: Skeets, I doubt it, I actually do, But does it
Speaker 4: ever we are used? No?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you're right, most people probably do have Staples.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that being said, when it comes to Crypto,
Speaker 5: it's up only all things considered. I honestly hate the
Speaker 5: dot com. But calling something the crypt which is what
Speaker 5: a lot of Lakers fans have been saying, objectively cool,
Speaker 5: But you're trading a brand for a brand. This is
Speaker 5: like I couldn't believe that Lakers fans were upset that
Speaker 5: they were changing the name from Staples.
Speaker 4: Yeah, where it was a little weird. There was a
Speaker 4: lot of Twitter talk about this. Yeah, but Lee, what
Speaker 4: do you think thumbs up or sums down on Crypto
Speaker 4: dot com arena? Uh, just stay on or up?
Speaker 3: But I really can I just can't believe how upset
Speaker 3: people get out of the name of an arena, Like,
Speaker 3: who gives a shit what it's They're not changing the
Speaker 3: team name from the Los Angeles Lakers to the Los
Speaker 3: Angeles like wild Dogs or something like that. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can understand, And then like.
Speaker 4: Who cares?
Speaker 3: Man, what the hell the name of the arena is?
Speaker 3: No one cares. Nobody's going to go, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I can't go to all Lakers game now anymore. I seriously,
Speaker 3: they just wonder They say, you said seven hundred million
Speaker 3: over twenty years. I'm like, they could easily pay that,
Speaker 3: but the way Crypto is and I don't quite understand,
Speaker 3: they can also be completely bankrupt next week. So I
Speaker 3: don't really know how this is going to work out.
Speaker 3: But of all the things going around getting people upset
Speaker 3: on Twitter, I'm just like, seriously, you care that much?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 6: What does it matter?
Speaker 3: It's like in Snatch when and he says, what, I
Speaker 3: call you a bullet tooth. Bullet tooth Tony. You can
Speaker 3: call me Susan if it makes you feel good. That's
Speaker 3: really what it should be.
Speaker 6: Just call the arena or.
Speaker 4: Whatever Lakers Clippers today, come on down to the Susan.
Speaker 4: The lazy Susan's not there around Hey, what gate are
Speaker 4: we It's on the other side of the building. Tass
Speaker 4: thumbs up, thumbs down. Staple Center being renamed Crypto dot
Speaker 4: Com Arena.
Speaker 2: God, I love it. I love you dot Com. I'm
Speaker 2: going out of the Crypto dot Com Arena. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: dot com really kills it, you know, Uh, the Staples Center.
Speaker 2: It shows that people stop affiliating it with a brand
Speaker 2: after a while. It's now just the name of the arena.
Speaker 2: I think that's why they're so pissed. It's I had
Speaker 2: forgotten honestly, you know, since they renamed it. I guess
Speaker 2: it was nineteen ninety nine. Looking back, I'd forgotten that
Speaker 2: it was named after Staples. It just kind of became
Speaker 2: the name of the arena, the name that it was
Speaker 2: changed from before the forum. Now that was a great name,
Speaker 2: but now it's Stapleson. Now it's crypto dot com. And
Speaker 2: they paid in cash. They paid in dollars. That's the
Speaker 2: weird part. Why didn't they pay in cryptocurrency? I mean,
Speaker 2: if you want to sell it, you know, except except
Speaker 2: crypto and what was it, seven hundred and fifty mil
Speaker 2: the equivalent center mill?
Speaker 4: Yeah, good for them. I saw ghost face Ziller, Tom Ziller.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to get your take on this because
Speaker 4: it caught me by surprise. He wrote in his newsletter
Speaker 4: Trey that according to him, by his count, Ziller, there's
Speaker 4: only four good NBA arena names Madison Square Garden, Ball Arena,
Speaker 4: Smoothie King Center, and Little Caesar's Arena. Uh what, I
Speaker 4: know you read the same thing or he saw his tweet. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what was your reaction to to Ziller's list? There, Madison
Speaker 4: Square Garden Okay, I think we all agree.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: There's one great name for an arena, Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 5: That's the only great one still going right now, though
Speaker 5: I will agree that you could you could slot these
Speaker 5: next three into good ball. Arena is just great because
Speaker 5: it's basketball Smoothie King Center. That's the meme name out there.
Speaker 5: You know, it's not actually great, but somehow Smoothie King
Speaker 5: has stuck around for a long time, when like you know,
Speaker 5: Talking Stick didn't stick around for a long time, like
Speaker 5: the Suns are now. The Footprint Arena also very weird,
Speaker 5: and Little Caesar's Arena. I was out on this one
Speaker 5: until Ziller posted the picture that has the little Little
Speaker 5: Caesar guy on top of the arena, so I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: that's good. And the other one I would add, I
Speaker 5: would say that the Charlotte Hornets playing the Spectrum Center,
Speaker 5: and that just sounds like a classic name for an
Speaker 5: arena to me, the Spectrum Center, so I would elevate
Speaker 5: that to a top fiber as well. But in general,
Speaker 5: it's Madison Square Garden and then all the rest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lee, you are an NBA die hard, But I
Speaker 4: have a feeling if I were to quiz you on hey,
Speaker 4: can you name all the arenas in the NBA, my
Speaker 4: gut says there's five or six, maybe seven. You would
Speaker 4: have no clue about it, or you would think is
Speaker 4: still named X and it's been changed, like like okay,
Speaker 4: sever example, do you know what not.
Speaker 3: The Chesapeake Arena is.
Speaker 2: No, that's the thing Chesapeake.
Speaker 4: I know, yeah, No, it's something I don't even know
Speaker 4: off the top of my head to have to look
Speaker 4: it up, but I know it's something different. It's like,
Speaker 4: is it like pea or something. I don't know it's
Speaker 4: it's it's yea. It goes back to what you're saying.
Speaker 4: It's like a who cares? Yeah, yeah, Peak Arena is
Speaker 4: what it is. That's it.
Speaker 3: That's right, yeah yeah. When you say like, oh okay,
Speaker 3: But otherwise that's why it's just not memorable at all.
Speaker 3: Like no one's like, oh my god, I love that
Speaker 3: corporate giant sponsoring that arena. That makes me feel so good,
Speaker 3: Like ah man, yeah.
Speaker 4: Do you have a favorite named arena though, besides Madison Square, going.
Speaker 3: What in the world or in the world a well,
Speaker 3: like soccer's got some great let San Sero in Milan,
Speaker 3: that one's a great one in the bernabout in Madrid,
Speaker 3: the New Camp Barcelona, Old Trafford that's a great one. Anfields,
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah so but they still sell out as well.
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think Old Trafford has sold out.
Speaker 3: But like Arsenal became the Emirates, they used to be
Speaker 3: at Highfield, that's the Emirates. So yeah, I mean money talks.
Speaker 3: It's the same in the Australian leagues. You know, we
Speaker 3: used to have you know, traditional ground names and then
Speaker 3: you know, money comes and talks and they changed the
Speaker 3: name and that was like twenty five years. Got to
Speaker 3: remember people like, oh my god, you can't change the
Speaker 3: name of this and then it's just like you just
Speaker 3: get used to it and life goes on.
Speaker 4: Well, I think like the Packers are one of the
Speaker 4: teams in the NFL that like refuse to uh change
Speaker 4: the name of lambeau Field. I think I have that right,
Speaker 4: Does that sound right, Trey, where like they've been the
Speaker 4: Bears are soldier Field Soldier Field. Yeah yeah, so you
Speaker 4: know some of them want to stay traditional and not
Speaker 4: slap that brand on it. But anyway, funny, funny topic
Speaker 4: there again. Thanks to everybody for the thumbs upper thumbs
Speaker 4: down on that one. Let's keep it going with this
Speaker 4: next one. Following a week of strong play from the
Speaker 4: NBA's newest class, there's been a little movement atop the
Speaker 4: NBA Rookie Ladder over on NBA dot Com. Caid Cunningham
Speaker 4: has entered the top five, Josh Giddy climbed a run
Speaker 4: to number four, and the Raptors energetic forward Scottie Burns.
Speaker 4: He has jumped ahead of the Calves now injured big
Speaker 4: man Evan Mobley at the top of that ladder leaderboard.
Speaker 4: So up or down on that one task on Barnes
Speaker 4: right now being number one on the NBA dot COM's
Speaker 4: Rookie ladderboard.
Speaker 2: Some huge thumbs up. Why the heck not? As it's
Speaker 2: it's sort of by default because Evan Mobley is out.
Speaker 2: But if you look at the numbers, Scottie Barnes is
Speaker 2: a little bit better than Evin Mobley's scoring the ball
Speaker 2: even efficiency, which is surprising him. Mobilely, a big man
Speaker 2: doesn't have the field goal percentage that Scottie Barnes has,
Speaker 2: shooting fifty one percent for a wing. That's very impressive
Speaker 2: for Scottie Barnes. And you know down the line the
Speaker 2: numbers are really really really similar, and Scotty Barnes is impressed.
Speaker 2: I wonder, though, if you asked all thirty gms who
Speaker 2: would you rather have a few years from now, I'd
Speaker 2: still think it'd be like seventy thirty for Evan Mobley.
Speaker 2: But I'm of course excited that Scotty Barnes is looking
Speaker 2: the way he is. He's so fricking confident. The raps
Speaker 2: are running out those three you know, six nine to
Speaker 2: six ten six eleven wingspan players and ogn Andobi, Pascal
Speaker 2: Siak and Scotty Barnes at times. Scotty's playing the five
Speaker 2: at times like Van Mobley, but he can be a
Speaker 2: point guard you're holding the ball and carry the ball.
Speaker 2: So I think the reason why you don't pick and
Speaker 2: Evan Mobley for a Rookie of the Year is what
Speaker 2: you're seeing with Scotty Barnes because big men don't have
Speaker 2: the opportunity as much as guys who handle the ball
Speaker 2: like Scotty Barnes does. But Evan Mobley is just a
Speaker 2: freak of a player because he can do guard type things,
Speaker 2: and Scotty Barnes is showing he's kind of similar. He
Speaker 2: can do guard type things, even though he's able to
Speaker 2: play at center. So at this point, I think most
Speaker 2: gyms would still take Evan Mobley long term, but because
Speaker 2: of the injury and because Scotty is honestly he's playing great.
Speaker 2: He's so so good. It's the clubhouse getting crowded though.
Speaker 2: You know, it used to be Evan Mobley's and now
Speaker 2: the injury has changed things. Kate Cunningham is coming along
Speaker 2: as we've talked, and Scotty Barnes is in there. I
Speaker 2: still think it's it's more of a you guy race
Speaker 2: with Barnes and Mobile and Keid will be there in
Speaker 2: the end, but you know the Jalens are still lagging behind,
Speaker 2: but it's still a fun race.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lee, what about Barnes at number one right now?
Speaker 4: Would you have him there?
Speaker 3: I'd probably still have mobiley because I think Mobley's not
Speaker 3: going to be out that long and he's been better overall.
Speaker 3: I think he's had a greater impact. But yeah, Scotty
Speaker 3: Barnes has been great. It's been a really good class.
Speaker 3: I think there is probably six or seven guys who
Speaker 3: have had a big impact on their team. Talked about
Speaker 3: Josh Giddy already. Jalen Gren started off pretty hot down
Speaker 3: there in Houston, and then Jalen Suggs. Even last night
Speaker 3: he started to show signs of getting it together.
Speaker 4: So I think it's great.
Speaker 3: It's really good to see so such a deep class
Speaker 3: and maybe it does just come down to who plays
Speaker 3: the most games really, so hopefully Mobiley isn't out for
Speaker 3: too long because I've really enjoyed watching him. But Scotty Barnes,
Speaker 3: he's easily the fan favorite I think overall on the
Speaker 3: number one leaderboard there. The Raptors fans absolutely love him,
Speaker 3: and why not. He's great, Trey, What do you got
Speaker 3: on this one?
Speaker 6: I don't have much to add.
Speaker 5: Scotty Barnes is lead and a rookies in scoring and rebounding.
Speaker 5: So even though Evan Mobley is out, I think that's
Speaker 5: a lot of the reason he wants a number one
Speaker 5: I'm here for it. He's been, at worst the second
Speaker 5: best rookie so far this season. Number one is out,
Speaker 5: so slot Scottie into number one right there. I will say,
Speaker 5: I think Cad Cunningham is going to be coming for
Speaker 5: that number one spot pretty soon. I think we will
Speaker 5: see him at the top of the leader board before
Speaker 5: Evan Mobley returns.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I guess one guy that was
Speaker 4: there earlyly was Duarte with the Pacers. Who's who's come
Speaker 4: back to earth a little bit. He had that very
Speaker 4: hot start and he was getting a lot of minutes
Speaker 4: because of injury there too, and he was really clicking.
Speaker 4: From three percentages that started to tick down. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's still forty three point shooter. That's great, but just
Speaker 4: overall from the floor, it's come back, come back down
Speaker 4: a little bit, but that's fine. He'll probably be in
Speaker 4: the mix for a top five. Franz Wagner. We talked
Speaker 4: about Josh Giddy, we talked about They're all there. Tessa's right.
Speaker 4: It's a very good class, very strong class right now.
Speaker 4: Final one in the Updown Report. Despite getting crushed by
Speaker 4: the Warriors on Tuesday night, Brooklyn Nets the title favorites.
Speaker 4: According to Bett MGM it tweeted this out yesterday. It
Speaker 4: seems a little odd to me, and we're showing you
Speaker 4: the favorites right now on YouTube. Nets are at plus
Speaker 4: two sixty to win. The Chip Lakers are next at
Speaker 4: plus six fifty. The reigning champs Milwaukie Bucks sit at
Speaker 4: plus seven hundred, and then the Warriors come in at
Speaker 4: fourth on the odds a little longer at plus seven fifty.
Speaker 4: So the Q for everyone here in the stream team
Speaker 4: listening later. You can tweet at us at New Dunk's
Speaker 4: encor Let us know your answers in the YouTube comments
Speaker 4: up or down on the Nets Remaning betting favorites to
Speaker 4: win the title.
Speaker 3: I'm down on that, you know, from what we've seen
Speaker 3: so far, and you mentioned it just the other night.
Speaker 3: The Warriors looked a much more complete team than the
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets, and they've still got Klay Thompson to come back. Now,
Speaker 3: he may take some time to adjust, but he certainly
Speaker 3: knows how they play, knows the system, so it's not
Speaker 3: like he has to learn how the Warriors play and
Speaker 3: they just look better. I think they've got the MVP
Speaker 3: so far of the season in Steph Curry, and they're
Speaker 3: getting contributes from other guys as well. Cavon Looney's been okay,
Speaker 3: Kaminga had some nice plays for them coming off the
Speaker 3: bench as well. So I think the Nets are I
Speaker 3: don't even think they're the favorite in the East. I
Speaker 3: still have the Bucks as the ultimate favorite there, so yeah,
Speaker 3: I would not have money on Brooklyn right now. Now, again,
Speaker 3: it's a long season. Things can change, of course, and
Speaker 3: maybe Kyrie comes back at some point, who knows. But today,
Speaker 3: with what we've seen, I would have the Warriors as
Speaker 3: a favorite, and I certainly wouldn't have the Lakers as
Speaker 3: second favorite at all. If you're gonna put money on
Speaker 3: the Lakers, just donate it to charity. I don't think
Speaker 3: they're a very strong team right now in the West.
Speaker 3: I think the Suns are better than them. I think
Speaker 3: the Clippers are better than the Lakers right now.
Speaker 2: The Jazz.
Speaker 3: The Jazz are always a bit hard to tell because
Speaker 3: I think they're a better regular season team, but they've
Speaker 3: got some issues in the playoffs. So no, I would
Speaker 3: not have the Nets as the favorite. I've got the
Speaker 3: Warriors and then the Bucks as my top two.
Speaker 4: Okay, what do you think tas The.
Speaker 2: Thing that the Nets have gone for them is last year,
Speaker 2: Remember we all said the Nets can't play defense, They
Speaker 2: can't play defense, you can't wait a champion jib like that. Well,
Speaker 2: now they're playing really, really, really solid defense to start
Speaker 2: the year, and they're tied for the number one seed
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference, which is shocking. With the way
Speaker 2: that they've looked. They've beaten a lot of poor teams
Speaker 2: and they've yeah, they've lost to the good ones, as
Speaker 2: we saw with the Golden State Warriors. But is this
Speaker 2: offense just a mediocre offense? No, and that's what they're
Speaker 2: playing with right now. So when their offense catches up
Speaker 2: with their defense, I can understand why they're a favorite
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference. And so that's I think that's
Speaker 2: a good sign for them. They got a lot of
Speaker 2: new parts, but they're still playing defense. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: would what same thing that Li said, obviously that they
Speaker 2: are not playing like the Warriors or whoever. But I
Speaker 2: still think that they they should be a favorite to
Speaker 2: come out of the East, you know, with the with
Speaker 2: the Bucks, and it's amazing that they're tied for the
Speaker 2: top of the Eastern Conference, as underwhelming as their wins
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 4: Trey, what do you think up or down on the
Speaker 4: nets still being favorites.
Speaker 5: I'm with these guys. I think the Warriors are the favorites.
Speaker 5: They've been the best team in the league through the
Speaker 5: first month of the season. They've got the end, they've
Speaker 5: got a potential, and I would say likely defensive Player
Speaker 5: of the year in Draymond Green, and theoretically they're gonna
Speaker 5: have Klay Thompson at some point, So I think the
Speaker 5: Warriors should be easy favorites here. But Task makes some
Speaker 5: good points. The Nets are an uninspiring eleven and five.
Speaker 5: It's almost similar to the Mavericks, where you're like, what's
Speaker 5: wrong with this team? How do they keep winning all
Speaker 5: of these games? They'll keep playing defense. They could get
Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving back at some point, but I will say
Speaker 5: that's the impressive thing for the Nets.
Speaker 6: They've been so good this season.
Speaker 5: That we haven't really been talking about Kyrie being mising
Speaker 5: from this team since the season actually started. So I
Speaker 5: got the Warriors in a landslide as the favorite right now,
Speaker 5: but the Nets are still good at basketball.
Speaker 4: I saw a sports media watch tweet this morning the
Speaker 4: Warriors Nets game from this past week second most watch
Speaker 4: NBA game of the season, and Golden State has played
Speaker 4: in three of the top five, five of the top seven,
Speaker 4: and six of the top eleven games thus far, so
Speaker 4: people want to see Steph Curry and the Warriors play.
Speaker 4: Here's a question from at DJ underscore Rod also by
Speaker 4: way of twitterly, but it's a little interesting if you're
Speaker 4: the Warriors right now, you think you're championship material, would
Speaker 4: you consider trading be it a Wiseman, A Kaminga, A
Speaker 4: Moody so one of your really young guys for another piece?
Speaker 4: And if you did, who would it be? Right suggested?
Speaker 4: You know, is it somebody to defend Yolkich in a series?
Speaker 4: Is it a rolling big man? Is it a pick
Speaker 4: and pop big man?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What do you think of that question? From right?
Speaker 3: A very hypothetical. I probably wouldn't trade Kaminga. I think
Speaker 3: he's shown some really good flashes early on. I think
Speaker 3: Wiseman is probably the guy if you because he was
Speaker 3: the number two pick, you know, a bit of an
Speaker 3: up and down season. If you could replace him. I mean, again,
Speaker 3: a guy who I've sort of talked about, Mo Bamba,
Speaker 3: didn't get extended by the Magic and he's been good
Speaker 3: for them. I mean, he's another guy who can protect
Speaker 3: the rim if that's what you're looking to add and replace.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I haven't obviously looked into the trade
Speaker 3: machine for anything like that. But I think the Warriors
Speaker 3: are okay as long as you've got Draymond there, you know,
Speaker 3: sort of controlling the defense. I'm not sure there's a
Speaker 3: deal out there that really does improve them short of
Speaker 3: like someone just giving you, you know, an obvious upgrade
Speaker 3: at that position. So I'd probably just stand pat, I think,
Speaker 3: and ride with what you've got because, as I say,
Speaker 3: you're getting Clay back, Clay's a good defender. Clay's going
Speaker 3: to help the offense. Their defense has been very good
Speaker 3: so far anyway without without those guys, so.
Speaker 4: Like Elite right now, we haven't seen a defense like
Speaker 4: this great terms of numbers wise, like in ten years
Speaker 4: they saw going around.
Speaker 3: Defensive reading and that's without you know, a room protector
Speaker 3: per se like, so I don't really need one at
Speaker 3: the moment.
Speaker 4: The last thing Warriors fans and the Warriors themselves want
Speaker 4: is bet MGM to make them the total favorites, because
Speaker 4: I think they're really leaning into like the disrespect angle,
Speaker 4: like the what about us? You forgot about us? Well,
Speaker 4: you hear Draymond Green says all the time, and he
Speaker 4: just had a quote flying around. I think he's got
Speaker 4: a new podcast where he's like he's saying all that,
Speaker 4: He's like, we have an MVP guy, and you don't
Speaker 4: you don't think anything of us, you know, we have
Speaker 4: Clay coming back, one of the great shoes ever. You
Speaker 4: have me Defensive Players of Year guy that should always
Speaker 4: be in the conversation. And he's like, you've just like
Speaker 4: you've you've overlooked us after the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: you got tired of us, you know, going to the
Speaker 4: finals every time. I'm saying, like it, Actually, it's like
Speaker 4: beneficial to them to be like that underdog status. So
Speaker 4: they want to remain probably at third, fourth, fifth on
Speaker 4: the bet MGM like title favorite odds. I think it
Speaker 4: does some good. Try.
Speaker 5: Yeah, then if that's the case, they should start losing
Speaker 5: some games because they keep going thirteen out of fifteen
Speaker 5: every win. Eventually they're going to be known as the favorites.
Speaker 5: They're on pace for like sixty five wins at this point.
Speaker 5: So flying under the radar isn't quite working when you've
Speaker 5: got the loudest offensive player out there. Like this story
Speaker 5: about Steph Curry, I think it was in the Wall
Speaker 5: Street Journal that his swishes were not swishy enough for
Speaker 5: him is honestly just ridiculous. He's like, yeah, you can
Speaker 5: get a swish if you missed the center of the
Speaker 5: hoop by five inches. So I tighten it down, and
Speaker 5: I was shooting for a three inch or one inch
Speaker 5: radius on my shots. Only Steph Curry can do this,
Speaker 5: so they might want to sit him down if they
Speaker 5: want to not make the favorites anymore.
Speaker 4: It's possible. All right, We're gonna take one more break
Speaker 4: when we come back. We got tweeted the night, We
Speaker 4: got pick them results and a little bit more fun.
Speaker 4: So don't go anywhere, Okay, back with no dunks. I
Speaker 4: just saw on the stream team here, Lee, you'll be
Speaker 4: happy to know that Hootski went to a concert last
Speaker 4: night and the band leader, I guess, yelled, Saint Louis,
Speaker 4: you are the life of the party.
Speaker 6: Who was it?
Speaker 3: Who was he watching?
Speaker 2: Of course, let's just.
Speaker 4: Leave it at that. That's perfect. Let's get to tweeted
Speaker 4: the night.
Speaker 2: Tweet out the night. Wow.
Speaker 6: A couple of tweets of the night here for you.
Speaker 5: The first one, just a quickie, comes from Matthew Connor,
Speaker 5: who tweeted me yesterday and said, just said, feel like
Speaker 5: we need more sloppy Joe talk. Okay, who's the sloppy
Speaker 5: Joe of the NBA. Joe Ingles probably got a sloppy
Speaker 5: look to him sometimes.
Speaker 6: A weird thing. I feel like we need more sloppy
Speaker 6: Joe talk. I do like a sloppy Joe, but that
Speaker 6: one's for you. Matthew Connor.
Speaker 4: What can I ask you? And I only asked, what
Speaker 4: do you consider a sloppy Joe?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Well, like the real thing, not ground beef.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like a like a sloppy barbecue. He kind
Speaker 6: of sauce. I want it me.
Speaker 5: I will accept two forms bummed up, closed face style
Speaker 5: or you can go Steve Kirby style, open face sloppy Joe.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're getting more beef in that one.
Speaker 5: So man, okay, this guy's getting more sloppy Joe talk
Speaker 5: than Is there another definition of slop that I'm missing?
Speaker 4: No? Well, no, no, I asked, because maybe we found
Speaker 4: Nora's a burner Twitter account. She asked me like two
Speaker 4: days ago that sloppy Joe's and I don't think she
Speaker 4: ever had them growing up, Like I know, I'm not
Speaker 4: sure sloppy Joe a fine Armenian dish as they're having.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, yeah, slappy Joe we had,
Speaker 4: you know, we had those, and that's exactly how I
Speaker 4: described it. But I think she thought maybe it was
Speaker 4: more like almost not like a meat loaf, but like
Speaker 4: in a tray. And I'm like, no, I don't, I
Speaker 4: don't think so. Not sloppy and we had it the
Speaker 4: way you had it. Yeah, yeah, I mean you want it.
Speaker 5: You want there to be bread, but you want that
Speaker 5: bread when you pick it up to almost disintegrate, just
Speaker 5: covered in sauce.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Cool, cool, cool, cool cool.
Speaker 4: I'm glad we all hit on sloppy Joe's hey with
Speaker 4: more food talk because I brought it up. I don't
Speaker 4: know if it was yesterday the day before. I brought
Speaker 4: up grilled cheese sandwiches and how I dip them either
Speaker 4: in tomato soup because it's a nice combo of course,
Speaker 4: tomato soup and a grilled cheese sandwich, or sometimes ketchup
Speaker 4: dipping the grilled cheese and ketchup. I had people reacting
Speaker 4: like that was the most insane thing I ever heard, really,
Speaker 4: and I was like, am I crazy? Because you guys
Speaker 4: didn't seem to think that was all that crazy, even yeah, Trey,
Speaker 4: like you were like you've done that, especially as a kid.
Speaker 5: I'm sure I would dip a grilled cheese into any
Speaker 5: tomato product, maybe even to a sloppy joe.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine it probably be pretty good.
Speaker 4: Actually, i'd be delicious, I think. But anyway, people were
Speaker 4: like baffled by that, So I guess in some parts
Speaker 4: of the world, I'm sure it's maybe perplexing. But test
Speaker 4: did you ever dip a girl cheese sandwich and.
Speaker 2: Ketch up my new people and new people who you
Speaker 2: knew me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, I can see why. It's a
Speaker 2: pretty pretty clear divide those who do and those who don't.
Speaker 2: I can understand why people who wouldn't hang with those
Speaker 2: who did, you know erst I.
Speaker 3: Think, Yeah, I seem to recall like when momm used
Speaker 3: to make us toasted sandwiches, they were ham, cheese and
Speaker 3: ketchup like, so.
Speaker 4: It was yeah, so I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't then dip as well on top of that,
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't also find it offensive if someone was
Speaker 3: doing that, if they didn't have ketchup already in the sandwich,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't or I wouldn't wouldn't try to fight them
Speaker 3: or anything like that.
Speaker 4: You know, there are a shocking amount of people saying
Speaker 4: that this is insane. Just a grilled cheese, grilled cheese
Speaker 4: dipping ketchup.
Speaker 6: That's a no note, just bat I.
Speaker 4: Thought everybody did that. Not everybody, but a lot of
Speaker 4: people did this or and even if it's not for you,
Speaker 4: it's not crazy to do.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think I saw the front man of the Blowfish
Speaker 5: Hootski was saying that dipping a grilled cheese into ketchup
Speaker 5: number two way to eat a grilled cheese. Obviously you
Speaker 5: would want to dip it in a tomato soup first. Yes,
Speaker 5: a ketchup is just like a very, very thick soup,
Speaker 5: the thickest soup you can imagine.
Speaker 4: Did you have another tweeter?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: I thought we were just gonna get a quick little
Speaker 5: bit of sloppy Joe in there and move on to
Speaker 5: the next one. The next one comes from Tyler Rickey
Speaker 5: Times and Barrett Sports Media. It's from a talk radio
Speaker 5: show in Philadelphia, and the caller on this radio program
Speaker 5: won't let anything.
Speaker 6: Get in the way of his Ben Simmons.
Speaker 5: Take hi, James, We're doing great, James.
Speaker 6: What's on your mind?
Speaker 2: Bro? Oh not bad? So ione just hit my car?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they are driving off.
Speaker 4: It's okay, what nose plate? Anyway, I'll write it.
Speaker 6: Damn, get your license plate. I'll get I'll get you.
Speaker 6: Read the license plate over the radio.
Speaker 7: No, oh yeah, that's wrong.
Speaker 4: They swarped into my lane. No way, anyway, I'll call
Speaker 4: about it. I'll call about Ben Simmons.
Speaker 6: What, James, you just got in a car accident? You
Speaker 6: caught about Ben's.
Speaker 1: He annoys me more than someone hit my car and
Speaker 1: driving off.
Speaker 5: At the end, Ben Simmons annoys me more than somebody
Speaker 5: hitting my car and driving off. I guess my question
Speaker 5: to you, what's more annoying a hit and run accident
Speaker 5: or your team star having a month's long trade request
Speaker 5: hanging over their season.
Speaker 6: It's a tough call.
Speaker 5: What you got.
Speaker 3: I don't know who was in the taxi with me
Speaker 3: in San Francisco and the new season required to it,
Speaker 3: but someone did bang into us and drove off. Does
Speaker 3: anyone remember that.
Speaker 7: I thought they got I was in the cab when
Speaker 7: that happened.
Speaker 3: Yea yeah.
Speaker 7: And because we were such dicks about it too, because
Speaker 7: we were in such a hurry, we just got out
Speaker 7: and ran away, like basically just got out and ran
Speaker 7: to another cab, Like I remember Matt, and it was
Speaker 7: me you and Matt. I think, and it was just like, okay, well,
Speaker 7: good luck with all of this, see you later. We
Speaker 7: got what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Anyway?
Speaker 7: That's true, that's true, But I mean we could have
Speaker 7: stayed to be witness, says, I guess, but I think
Speaker 7: it was the Cabby's fault. Actually that would have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the other car did just drive off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So it was it was like, all right, what is
Speaker 3: this guy gonna do? Chasing down? We didn't want to
Speaker 3: be on one of those like five Alive, you know,
Speaker 3: helicopter cams is a chase going downtown in San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Via my Good says that James may have had something
Speaker 4: to do with this little te offender.
Speaker 7: He was on his phone, Yeah, on a radio show.
Speaker 4: It's okay, it's okay. I finally got through to this
Speaker 4: radio station. It's fine. I didn't see him and we touched,
Speaker 4: but he's got it's okay, it's I don't know, that's
Speaker 4: my guy.
Speaker 2: But that wasn't james fault.
Speaker 1: Was.
Speaker 2: He's a die hard. He's a die hard Sixers fan.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't have insurance, so he's like not just
Speaker 2: just let it go, man, I'm gonna have to scratch
Speaker 2: just to scratch.
Speaker 4: Man, it's nice to hear sports radio talk though. That's
Speaker 4: exactly what I think. Sports radio talk sounds like it's
Speaker 4: like this the perfect stereotype. But it's true. It turns
Speaker 4: out like just that gravelly voice. Let's tax shot. Hey,
Speaker 4: hey read me.
Speaker 6: His license plate?
Speaker 5: Is that illegal to read somebody else's license plate on
Speaker 5: the radio?
Speaker 4: There's probably regulation, probably, Yeah, it doesn't. It sounds like
Speaker 4: the woman sort of jumps in there. I don't do that. Actually,
Speaker 4: great great stuff, great tweets of the night. There sloppy
Speaker 4: Joe talk and sloppy driving talk. Sloppy hey, there it
Speaker 4: is there, it is okay pick the results from last night,
Speaker 4: brought to you by Bett MGM. It was the Kings
Speaker 4: and Wolves. I was calling it what the disappointing Bowl,
Speaker 4: especially with Fox going against Beasley, two guys on my
Speaker 4: top ten most disappointing players this season. If you missed that,
Speaker 4: check out yesterday's podcast. But in the end, Minnesota gets
Speaker 4: it done, pulled away late. Anthony Edwards did hit some
Speaker 4: big shots, So that's a victory. Four task. He's ten
Speaker 4: and three in the month of November. That's a win
Speaker 4: for Lee. He's eight and five, and I needed that
Speaker 4: one because Trey and I had different picks last night.
Speaker 4: So I got it. I'm six and seven and so
Speaker 4: is Trey after losing with the King. So what's tonight's game?
Speaker 4: There are six on in the association?
Speaker 2: Six a nice heavy Thursday nights. Skeed, how do they
Speaker 2: do it? How do they keep making heavy schedule nights?
Speaker 2: There isn't one kind of lighting up at some point.
Speaker 2: I don't know either way. Yeah, surprising six games, the
Speaker 2: Whiz slowing down. Trey talked about the the Sico Missos.
Speaker 4: What was that one called brid Ricos for.
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: So they're going to face the Miami Heat and even
Speaker 2: though the Wiz at the top of the Eastern Conference,
Speaker 2: there's seven and a half point dogs going into Miami.
Speaker 2: Miami seven and a half point favorite. So, in the
Speaker 2: words of that radio host, what you.
Speaker 6: Got, bro?
Speaker 2: What's on your mind?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 2: Skeets is taking the Washington Wizards. All the three of
Speaker 2: us are riding with the Heat. Jimmy b is back
Speaker 2: tripped dub last night and they're seven and a half
Speaker 2: in my favorites. That's a big, big line. So Skeatzy,
Speaker 2: you think that they can lose by seven or less
Speaker 2: the Wizards do. I.
Speaker 4: I just swerved because I didn't want to see all
Speaker 4: of us have the same pick. And there was a
Speaker 4: lot of love for the Heat and the Slack Channel
Speaker 4: this morning. So yeah, sure, it's a big enough line.
Speaker 4: I sort of like my gut said Miami would cover,
Speaker 4: but you never know in this league. Didn't what he
Speaker 4: can't have an over again? Right, Yeah, I'll take Washington
Speaker 4: to at least try and keep it close. It's a
Speaker 4: big game obviously between Trey and I here as we
Speaker 4: we're starting, I was gonna say we're starting to run
Speaker 4: out of dates in November, but it's only November eighteenth.
Speaker 4: My goodness, it was a lot later than that to me.
Speaker 4: Must be all that daylight savings a JD. All Right,
Speaker 4: so good luck, especially to the Washington Wizards. Keep it
Speaker 4: close for your boys, Skeatzy fun. Last show wild, I'll say,
Speaker 4: last show to go out on. You know, power going
Speaker 4: out and some hiccups at the beginning, but we power
Speaker 4: through it in the end. Lee, you're off right like
Speaker 4: you're headed overseas. You're going to England. Now the tour
Speaker 4: is over, You're done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be in beautiful sunny, cloudy, drizzly cool Manchester
Speaker 3: for tomorrow's show.
Speaker 4: So wow, so you had tonight?
Speaker 3: I head out tonight, yes, add sources close to the scene,
Speaker 3: what'sapp chat may have secured tickets to a big soccer
Speaker 3: match on Saturday afternoon in Liverpool, may have may have
Speaker 3: so well, yeah, we're waiting for confirmation from old Uncle Treg.
Speaker 3: But might have some tickets of Liverpool Arsenal Saturday afternoon,
Speaker 3: so looking forward to that if it comes through.
Speaker 4: Old Uncle Treg. What do they play at, old stuff?
Speaker 3: This one is at Anfield, a huge game, huge.
Speaker 4: Game that's Saturday. But so you're flying to England tonight.
Speaker 3: I'm flying to England tonight, yes, and.
Speaker 4: Hope to be on tomorrow's shows. JD.
Speaker 3: This is really for JD. I've booked a podcast studio
Speaker 3: in Manchester, an official studio, to do tomorrow's show.
Speaker 7: So wow.
Speaker 4: I mean so it's definitely not gonna work because we're no.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably gonna work better than it works here.
Speaker 3: So it's an official, actual studio designated for podcasting type
Speaker 3: stuff and recording, so.
Speaker 4: We'll see you gotta have to give us a tour
Speaker 4: of this please tomorrow well, we'll see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well, have a safe flight. Thanks. We'll hopefully
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Speaker 2: for some gear. Everybody's selling gear these days, everybody. I
Speaker 2: was watching Survivor forty one yesterday. Then I'm scrolling through
Speaker 2: my feed. We've got football Danny McCrae. He's selling Survivor
Speaker 2: forty one gear. Just a classic Survivor forty one shirt.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like I played in the like like
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just sort of like a Toronto Raptor
Speaker 2: shirt or like a tut No, it's more like a
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, twenty two NBA season shirt, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like surviving for you?
Speaker 7: I guess not.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm talking to the diehard's here. You guys
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's just kind of a strange shirt anyway,
Speaker 2: everybody's selling you. That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 4: Embrace the day. People.
Speaker 1: You could stay.
Speaker 2: Every day.
Speaker 4: And dang you happy every minute.
Speaker 1: It's been so long with your fana, it's happened already.
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