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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys blowing out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield, exploding down the sideline. This he is Hanging

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Speaker 1: with the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets

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Speaker 1: its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly,

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Speaker 1: and Shannon.

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Speaker 2: Gross Thursday, one o'clock in Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 3: That can mean only one thing.

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Speaker 2: That you are looking live at a very covered up

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Speaker 2: Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Fort Center the Star, Frisco, Texas,

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Speaker 2: where they get ready for some tennis this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big old tennis tournament this weekend. It is sixty.

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Speaker 2: Degrees unbelievable weather, got rid of the rain. The highest

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Speaker 2: sixty three, the lowest fifty.

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Speaker 4: That is Nate, He is Kurt, This is Shnnon in

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Speaker 4: the back of Chris keepings live and local.

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Speaker 5: I am Salt and Pepper Poppy.

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Speaker 4: Together we make Hanging with the Boys the sports talk

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Speaker 4: equivalent of the Brell people.

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Speaker 2: When we speak, brought to each and every day by Wingstopper,

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Speaker 2: Flavor gets it. Wee we're in trouble. When we got

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Speaker 2: Jesse on the how many days.

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Speaker 3: Are you on?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 5: What's today?

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Speaker 2: Thirtieth thirty thirty days of a liquid only fast and

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Speaker 2: he's got more energy than Nate Newton.

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Speaker 3: We are in for a long.

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Speaker 7: Long that, ain't it?

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Speaker 6: Sometime you upset about the coach some no, sometime when

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Speaker 6: you're listening. You know, this is what I gathered. Kurt

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Speaker 6: came in, spoke, You came in, spoke to Jesse. Everybody

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Speaker 6: speaking to one another.

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Speaker 7: How you doing?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 7: No, no?

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Speaker 6: And you know Kurt asked about it, You asked about

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Speaker 6: it fasting, and it didn't take more than thirty seconds

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Speaker 6: for it became about you.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, so Jesse.

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Speaker 7: Short nails. But that's why I'm saying it quiet, like

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Speaker 7: I would break this to the.

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Speaker 3: How's it going there, Jesse? Till Saturday? You said, how

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Speaker 3: you feeling.

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Speaker 5: Spiritually? I feel amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god. Just the revelations that have been

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Speaker 4: revealed to me.

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Speaker 3: It's been so it enlightened you as you go through this, right.

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Speaker 4: Because because it's not just I don't eat, right, It's

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Speaker 4: not just like I just don't eat, but I like

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Speaker 4: every morning at five am, I do a mile and

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Speaker 4: a half prayer walk. So I go and I walk,

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Speaker 4: and I pray. I'm listening to praise and worship music,

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Speaker 4: and like my entire walk is a prayer walk. And

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Speaker 4: then throughout the day, in place of meals that I

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Speaker 4: would have normal meal times, I either listen to a sermon,

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Speaker 4: I pray, I listen to a word, So I'm constantly

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Speaker 4: feeding my spirit all day long. And in those prayers,

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Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. So you know, when

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Speaker 4: you ask for those things, you know the sacrifice is

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Speaker 4: not eating, and I'm getting answers from the Lord in

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Speaker 4: those other areas. So it's been like the body wise,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm probably down like nineteen pounds.

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Speaker 3: You look good. That's a good walk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my arms are looking a little Look,

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Speaker 4: I gotta do some more push ups. I gotta do

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Speaker 4: I feel great. Of course, the natural detox of the body,

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Speaker 4: I get really really tired around like five thirty six o'clock.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm done by time you go to bed.

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Speaker 5: I'm into bed like eight thirty. Really I'm I'm exhausted.

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Speaker 4: Like when I get done, you know, because these shows

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Speaker 5: So when I get home, you're done, I'm done.

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Speaker 4: Like, I'll get me a sip the juice, a sip

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Speaker 2: And I'm just like, so, this is a spiritual journey

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Speaker 3: Tell them what you do and why you do it.

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Speaker 4: So the fast originated from when I was poor and

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Speaker 5: And I remember one of the guys.

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Speaker 4: and I was like, wait, so you want me to

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Speaker 4: not eat food? And at that time it was seven

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Speaker 4: days of water, seven days of just juice and water,

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Speaker 4: seven days juice, water, fruits, investables, seven days, juice, water, fruits, investables,

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Speaker 4: and like chicken and then you finish out the thirty

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Speaker 5: And he was like, man, listen.

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Speaker 4: You need you You're you asked you actually to get

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Speaker 4: at security, working at T Mobile.

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Speaker 5: You need a miracle.

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Speaker 4: So he was like, if you if you want, if

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Speaker 4: you want something that you ain't got, y'all be willing

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Speaker 4: to do something that you never done. And I start

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Speaker 4: that I got from Kevin Best telling me that these

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Speaker 4: And so I said, Okay, this is if this is

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Speaker 3: We got a deal.

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Speaker 4: We got a deal. And so I'm like, every year

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Speaker 5: It's like keep going with juice and water?

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Speaker 4: I'm like me, I'm looking around like you gotta be

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Speaker 2: So is it is it a audible voice you hear

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Speaker 5: It's in my head. It's in my head.

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Speaker 4: And then you feel it like it's you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, like you you just feel that, like because

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at him like, oh, I'm like, boy, you know,

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Speaker 4: fourteen days of this liquid's cool, I get to get

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Speaker 4: the fruits and vegetables, necks, I get a solid you.

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Speaker 7: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: It was like nah, keep going, like keep going, and like.

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Speaker 4: In that timeframe, I had like this amazing burst of

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Speaker 4: and I was like I went about twenty one days.

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Speaker 4: It was like nah, I keep going and it's finished

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Speaker 4: this thing out. And so it's been. It's been.

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Speaker 5: It's been a joyous ride.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: One of the one of the we've talked about. We

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Speaker 2: Kind of bothering you for a while now has been

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Speaker 2: purged out of your life.

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Speaker 3: Did that happen after you started the fast or before? After?

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Speaker 3: There you go keep it going, yes, same like you.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's a way maker. He's a way maker.

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Speaker 4: He listen when he moves mount and he gets mountain.

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Speaker 3: Good for you.

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Speaker 5: It's all good.

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Speaker 2: It's very admirable. I would love to do it. Bringing

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Speaker 2: it back to me, I'd love to do it.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think I could. You could have no way,

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Speaker 3: There's no way. I don't think I mentally I might

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Speaker 4: Didn't And you know what that tells me. That tells

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Speaker 4: me that there is something, there's not something in your

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Speaker 5: Because if you believed.

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Speaker 4: Like I believe, and I'm not not pick your religion,

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Speaker 4: that's that's on you.

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Speaker 5: I believe in Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: But if you believe that what he say he is,

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Speaker 4: he is, he is I am that I am, then

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Speaker 4: that that thing could be changed by I buy the

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Speaker 4: Lord and it requires a sacrifice. Then you don't have

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Speaker 4: anything in your life right now that's worth sacrificing. That's

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Speaker 4: that you're willing to sacrifice for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's or I'm too comfortable.

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Speaker 5: That's okay. But they'll may come a time or day

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Speaker 3: To I'll be like, I ain't I'm not eating.

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Speaker 3: Do that four days in Mexico?

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Speaker 7: Liquid?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, different kind of same result, probably different kind of.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why we were talking.

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Speaker 5: You were praying or something. We might not have been praying

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Speaker 3: Result out the back end. Result in the front end.

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Speaker 5: You might have been yelling, oh lord, oh Lord.

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Speaker 2: So you will be eating by the next show? Yes,

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Speaker 2: And what is your first meal going to be? Saturday morning?

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Speaker 4: Like the big meal is going to be I want crab,

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Speaker 4: legs and shrimp.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to get a seafood for breakfast.

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Speaker 4: No breakfast is going to be baking an egg something

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Speaker 4: like okay, yeah, but like the big meal is going

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Speaker 4: to be. And I've been kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 4: little bit away here, put the way here. It's gonna

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Speaker 4: be It's gonna be a two hundred dollars plus meal

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, oh yeah, yeah yeah, oh yeah, you enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Oh I will probably pay for it later that day

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Speaker 2: with that's fine, that's fine.

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Speaker 5: But my sacrifice is worth it. Okay, yeah, that's my good.

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Speaker 3: Good for you.

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Speaker 4: If anybody wants to donate to the cost, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be a it's gonna be a two hundred dollars meal

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Speaker 4: for me.

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Speaker 3: Good for you. I commend you on your dedication and service.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. So Kurt, how you been hair? Hair looks good?

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Speaker 3: You got very Jimmy Johnson esque hair looking today?

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Speaker 4: I don't know you like looking like Bryan Shot and Hirod.

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Speaker 4: I just saw him in the cast the Brian Shot cut. Now,

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Speaker 4: I've gotta get the visor for you. Got to get

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Speaker 4: your advisor.

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Speaker 3: Dude, you should let your hair grow after what you

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Speaker 3: went through. You should let that. You should sacrifice your barber.

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Speaker 8: Bill he regulator, sacrifice the proprietor of all right, Nate,

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Speaker 8: how are you sacrifice?

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Speaker 7: How much y'all as slain me what osmosis mean?

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Speaker 9: You know, is there going to be a Zeke Elliott?

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Speaker 9: He has to play that kind of thing, you know.

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Speaker 9: I I have hope, more hope than I did when

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Speaker 2: got a lot to say, and I don't want to

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00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: lose my thought process because I have a feeling he's

450
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: going to fill up the whole rest of the segment.

451
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: So make this about me, Nate real quick, which I

452
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: usually wait till the end, but I'm going to go now.

453
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give him a chance.

454
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm not not excited, not through old wasn't excited about

455
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: any of the candidates really, like to me, Kellen Moore,

456
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer, whatever. You didn't get in on the Ben

457
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 2: Johnson sweepstakes. You didn't get in on you know, some

458
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: of these other guys. So I'm I'm going to wait

459
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: and see. I'm not gonna sell my Cowboys loyalty yet.

460
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 5: Like, I'm you planning the trip to Mexico next January?

461
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that's that didn't matter who you hired.

462
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm planning that trip.

463
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: I will not be here, especially now that I don't

464
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: have to be here for you know, full time work.

465
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: I can actually take off and do it from down

466
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: there if I have to. But yes, I would be

467
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: going on that trip next year.

468
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm not excited. I am shocked.

469
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: I am like completely shocked that they didn't go after

470
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: Kelling Moore, like as much as they liked him when

471
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: he was in the building, and the way Jerry talked

472
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: about him like, I can't believe they didn't let that

473
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: because there wasn't a line waiting for Brian Schottenheimer, Like,

474
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: I don't know why you wouldn't pursue that unless he

475
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: just blew you away right And now the fans probably

476
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: would have burned their jerseys if you'd brought kelling Moore

477
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: back and made him the head coach. I don't know

478
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: if this hire is much different than that for the

479
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: from the fan basis perspective.

480
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 3: But what I like about the hire is what I

481
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: don't like about the hire.

482
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: I like that he's familiar and you don't have to

483
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: teach Dak Prescott doesn't have to learn a new system,

484
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 2: which I know Jesse has his opinions about you get

485
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: paid money, go go learn it.

486
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: I like the continuity.

487
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: I like that everybody that I've talked to in the

488
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: organization really likes the guy, and they say he's a

489
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: great seems like a great person, and he's like he said,

490
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: he brings people together.

491
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Speaker 3: He he you know, he's he's a people person.

492
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Speaker 7: He's a culture.

493
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: Builder, which we talk about that all the time.

494
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: That's what you need, is what proof do you I

495
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: don't have any that's that's what I'm saying. That's what

496
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: I don't like about is the same thing familiarity. You're

497
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: not letting, you're not There's no fear, like you said

498
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: power right, there's no fear.

499
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 3: There's the same old, same old.

500
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: And some of these players on this team need to

501
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: need to be told you don't go do your job.

502
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna sit, or you're gonna be somewhere else, or

503
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: you're not playing or whatever. And I don't think there's

504
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: no fear. You bring in somebody from the outside and

505
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: there's a what's this guy gonna do? Like you talked about,

506
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: they're texting each other.

507
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 12: How is he?

508
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 3: What's he doing? What's there's fear? There's no fear.

509
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Like what I'm worried about is the lack of daisical

510
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: stuff that was going on before.

511
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna keep going.

512
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: It might even get worse because it's the same internal

513
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: machine and it's the same nothing has changed about the processes,

514
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: and the fear now could be completely wrong. We could

515
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: get to training camp and we're like, whoa this all

516
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: this has changed. But it's like I like it, but

517
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: I don't like it for the same reasons. But I'm

518
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: gonna sit back and wait, and you're right, there's no

519
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: proof of anything. I'm gonna sit back and wait and watch,

520
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: and then we'll reevaluate it next December and see where

521
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: we're at. And nobody, you know, everybody was nobody until

522
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: they were somebody, So we'll see. I'm not I'm not

523
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: ecstatic about it. I'm not thrilled about it. But now done,

524
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: give the man a shot.

525
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: Let's let's see what happens.

526
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we have to just live with it.

527
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm in different.

528
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 8: You know.

529
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Speaker 4: My biggest thing is and it's it's shoty. He will

530
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: he will have to pay the back taxes of.

531
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Speaker 5: Previous failures. And and I say that because.

532
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 4: If you want to, if you want to sell to me,

533
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 4: or to the fan base, or to anybody, but to me,

534
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 4: that you're doing things different, if you're doing things that

535
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 4: will put you in a significant position to be contending

536
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 4: for the Lombardi, because that's that's the goal at the

537
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 4: end of this all, no matter who you hire, the

538
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: goal is to put your team in the position to

539
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: win the Lombardy.

540
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 5: And then you hear the phrase is like.

541
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: Continuity through the change, and I thought Clarence Hills was

542
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: kind of spot on us on the on the DLL

543
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 4: show that he did earlier.

544
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 5: With me, it's almost an oxymoron because we don't want

545
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 5: the same thing.

546
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: You don't want the same result for sure, we.

547
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 5: Don't right like, yeah, there's change, but I want there

548
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 5: to be a shake up.

549
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: I want them to have to go on new learners,

550
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: learn new things, be uncomfortable, be uncomfortable in the change.

551
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: I think that would light a fire under certain people.

552
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: Now we all have to wait to see what the

553
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: results are, but there's nothing that we can kind of

554
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 4: really hang our hats on that says that this will

555
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: be the guy. And then when we start looking at

556
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 4: Todd Archer did an article or did a story this

557
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 4: morning they talked about you know, he kind of went

558
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 4: behind the scenes on how this thing was broken down.

559
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 4: And Jerry Jr. Was a guy who was really pushing

560
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 4: for Brian Schottenheimer and even in that when they brought

561
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: Ann for an interview, it was to bring them in

562
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 4: to be their offensive coordinator. And that goes that to

563
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: me that those are the tre t LEAs that you

564
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: read and you go, oh, so this was a planned

565
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: situation where the Jones just wanted to still build their

566
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: staff their way, and that's probably why they stayed away

567
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 4: from guys like Aaron glenn And and Ben Johnson, because

568
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: those guys, to Nate's point, those guys were coming in

569
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: in one team power yeah, saying you know, and even

570
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 4: some of the coaching things now like there is no

571
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 4: coalition between Ibra Flusen and and and Brian Schottenheimer. They

572
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 4: don't they don't have no history together, they didn't work

573
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 4: together back in the day. A lot of people are

574
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 4: thinking and believing that that's that's who the Jones wanted

575
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: to hire. A guy that has been familiar with the

576
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 4: Jones is have been on this side already. You know

577
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: that that lettle that level of phil merit and continuity

578
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: that they know, and that they could say, hey, we

579
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: we brought you in and now we can kinda you know,

580
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: do the thing we do behind it. So even like

581
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 4: even that looks like a situation where and then you

582
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: hear things like, well, you know, during the time when

583
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 4: he was the offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer and Jerry said

584
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 4: about it. He said there were times in meetings where

585
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 4: he bit his lip and had deference to Mike McCarthy.

586
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 5: Well, I don't want a guy that's gonna just sit

587
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 5: back there and shut up.

588
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: If if what I gotta say is going to help

589
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: us be better, I'm gonna say it. I ain't gonna

590
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 4: sit back there and bite my tongue and have defference. No, hey, hey, hey, listen,

591
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 4: that's wrong. If we we should do more emotion this week,

592
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: we should do thing like so, so those type of

593
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 4: things that I hear and I'm going good. So now

594
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: so again, are you gonna still bite your lip when

595
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: you want something done?

596
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 6: Now?

597
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: Are you still gonna have difference because you're going to

598
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: deference to the the GM and the owner and.

599
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 5: So and so like that, you know what I'm saying?

600
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: Like now, when when when when it comes time to

601
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: your point where hey think, hey you lay for the

602
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 4: plane again, you're not you're not?

603
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: And then you hit it, No he is? You have difference?

604
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 6: Then?

605
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 4: Right, you bite your tongue then, because if that's the case,

606
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: the continent that you're talking about, it's not gonna change,

607
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: it's gonna be the same thing. So that that's my

608
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: whole thing about it. And we could all be absolutely right,

609
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: or we can all be absolutely wrong. But again, it's

610
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: just that if we're all looking for something different, we're

611
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: all looking for a change that will get us to

612
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: the next level. I would like to be working this

613
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: time next year. I would like for our show to

614
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: still be weekly this time next year. I would like

615
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 4: for us to be having meetings about all right, listen, uh,

616
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 4: hanging with.

617
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: The boys will be in radio row, let's go.

618
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

619
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Speaker 4: I just don't feel like he gives that to this team,

620
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: especially when you look around with what the rest of

621
00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: the league is doing.

622
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 9: Like they kept talking about this is a risky move,

623
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 9: This to me, is one of the most comfort.

624
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: Far away from risk.

625
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 6: The bottom line and that power band for me, covers

626
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 6: a lot of things. You know, not only the coaches

627
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 6: we didn't hire and what they were seeking. I want

628
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 6: to see your power and your culture.

629
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: See.

630
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 6: To me, culture has a different meaning for every player,

631
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 6: for every person. I want to see what your culture is.

632
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 6: When they start OTAs, I want to see who is practicing,

633
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 6: who is not practicing. When you have certain meetings, I

634
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 6: want to see who was at the meeting and who

635
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 6: was excused. When we go to training camp, I want

636
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 6: to see who's practicing and who's not practicing those all

637
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 6: of these things, because what your team lacks, it's continuity.

638
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 7: So it starts when you walk out on the field.

639
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 7: For OTA's who's at practice.

640
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 6: Don't start judging him just when the games start. He

641
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 6: gonna tell you who he is through the whole training camp.

642
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 6: I challenge y'all make it the training camp. Let's see

643
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 6: how this thing go, because if it's the same way

644
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 6: coach McCarthy did it, you basically gonna get a worse result.

645
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's it's the higher that I didn't

646
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: know who the name was and the person, but it's

647
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: the higher that I expected, because the only thing I know,

648
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: you know, my time around here is the family likes familiarity.

649
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: They like people that are connected.

650
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: You can see by the way they're putting staff together

651
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: now with ebra flues coming back right, there's that connection there.

652
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: That's why it caught me off guard when they hired

653
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy because he had no ties, he had no connections.

654
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: It was kind of out of left field.

655
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: But everything else there's always been a well, he was

656
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: a coach with this coach, and we're really good friends

657
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: with this coach, and we got good feedback from this

658
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: coach and this there's always that there was no risk

659
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: in this right and I don't think as many risks

660
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: as mister Jones takes in the business world. And that's

661
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: how he made his money and he was able to

662
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: buy this team was you know, he talks about it

663
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: all the time. He taking chances, rolling the dice. When

664
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: it comes to the football side, they play it very very,

665
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: very very safe. I mean, look at the free agent

666
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: market since Brandon Carr.

667
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: We talk about it all the time. They don't take chances,

668
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Speaker 2: try to put all the puzzle pieces in perspective, here,

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Speaker 2: one major puzzle piece that there was, you know, some

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Speaker 2: concern from the fan base. It's probably the one hire

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Speaker 2: or extension that Jerry's made over the past decade two

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00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: decades that I think everybody's on board with, and that

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00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 2: was Will McClay getting an extension.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to Will, welcome back.

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Speaker 5: We saw him in the luntroom.

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Speaker 2: So what are y'all's thoughts on that? I think Will's

733
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: done a great job. And you know, that's been the

734
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Speaker 2: one consistent thing that I think has stayed good over

735
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: the years is being able to find talent. Yeah, you're

736
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: gonna miss here and there, and you can debate, you know,

737
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: the last draft and all that stuff, but I think

738
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: for the most part Will and his staff has done

739
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: a really great job of finding guys.

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Speaker 3: What do you think? What your thoughts?

741
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 6: I think you got to get better when when you

742
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 6: stand pat on drafting, developing and paying them you have

743
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 6: to follow through the drafts. Last few and I'm talking

744
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 6: about first and second round picks have been just okay

745
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 6: guys that we have developed, Uh, we don't get them

746
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 6: on the field, and then we find out by the

747
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 6: time we get them on the field, it's too late.

748
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 7: So you know, it's very much too that we got

750
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 7: guys that.

751
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 6: Are playing prominent roles on playoff teams this year that

752
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 6: we drafted, we developed, and now other teams are.

753
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 7: Taking advantage of Lawrence so we can't And it ain't

754
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 7: just one.

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00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 6: Or two guys. It's four or five, six, seven, eight guys.

756
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 6: And so now we got twenty six guys that are

757
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 6: eligible in some form of way to leave this team.

758
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 6: Let's see how many we keep and do we keep

759
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 6: the right ones? Uh, I don't know if we'll have

760
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 6: any control and who they keep and who they don't keep.

761
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 6: Maybe he's just over the draft and pro personnel. But

762
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 6: we need to do a better job and holding on

763
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 6: to some of these guys, and I'm hoping it helping

764
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 6: Coach Shottenheimer. I ain't gonna call him Shotty because in

765
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 6: my in my neighborhood, that's a bad name. So Coach Shottenheimer,

766
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 6: I hope you do a better job. You say you

767
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 6: connect connect these these these guys together, whether it's an

768
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 6: awesome Richard starting for you and planning and being a

769
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 6: vital part. You know, are saying, hey, you know, if

770
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 6: we're gonna compete, let's compete and put the.

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Speaker 7: Best players out there.

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Speaker 6: I'm I can't wait till and I know I'm going

773
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 6: a little bit further than y'all asked for, but I

774
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Speaker 6: want I want to see o t as.

775
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 7: I want to see everything you do.

776
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 6: Because if you say you're a connector you're a people person,

777
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 6: will put the best players on the field. And that's

778
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 6: that's bill the team, and that's hold on to some

779
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 6: of our guys, because if we lose twenty four out

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Speaker 6: of twenty six guys, that's that's not very good job.

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Speaker 4: I think Will McClay I am happy or for Will

782
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Speaker 4: just because I know him personally, right, So you always

783
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: want to see a guy that you know personally. And

784
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: since Will has taken over in you know, the scouting

785
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: and the draft and all that kind of stuff in

786
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen, I mean through the draft, he's found and

787
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 4: drafted fifteen Pro Bowlers, six All pros. Now, that's great,

788
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 4: and some of the names that we cheer for or

789
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 4: have cheered for, fantastic. The problem is it's like in

790
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: this league, you're only good is the last draft that

791
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Speaker 4: you had, and so what happened in twenty fourteen to

792
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen don't make for what's needed

793
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five. And the last couple of drafts

794
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 4: for Will has been kind of those that when you

795
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: talk about hit or miss, it's been more of the missus.

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00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: So you know he has but one thing I will

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00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: say about it, and maybe this is just maybe I'm

798
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: going way too far, but when you talk about him

799
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: having a five year deal, and this was the first year,

800
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: to my understanding, that he was in on the coaching higher.

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00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: Normally he takes care of the draft and personnel pro personnel,

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00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: This was one of the first years that he was

804
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 5: in on the coaching higher and.

805
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Speaker 4: I kind of thought to myself, are we foreshadowing a

806
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: little bit with this type of situation where listen, Jerry's

807
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: eighty two years old, and I know that he's young

808
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 4: and hard and young in spirit and mind.

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00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 5: But eventually you have to say enough is enough.

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00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's five years from now,

811
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: and either sides or the Good Lord says your time

812
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: here is done. Like he's closer to the grid, than

813
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 4: he is to the youth. So either retirement or the

814
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 4: grave is has to be imminent in the future. And

815
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 4: now you would believe that Steven would step into that

816
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: spot of president and owner of the team. I know

817
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 4: they'll all have their shares, and Jerry and Charlotte and

818
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: all them, But does Steven say, okay, will start getting

819
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: your teeth cut in hiring staff, start getting it on

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00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 4: what we're doing on hiring staff. Because when I become king,

821
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: this is what I'm planning to do. I'm just gonna

822
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Speaker 4: be owner and president and maybe promote you just to

823
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: be the GM and now allow you to kind of

824
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: handle those day to day things from there. I don't know,

825
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: I could be crazy. It could be if your last

826
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: name ain't Jones, you ain't gonna hold one of these top, top,

827
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Speaker 4: top level positions. And they got some grandkids that are

828
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 4: in the pipeline that may step up in those spots.

829
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: Jerry may leave, Jerry Junior may lead the marketing department

830
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: and say all right, I'll come over, and you know

831
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Speaker 4: him and Charlotte made this.

832
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Speaker 5: I don't know, but I don't.

833
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm for satled them with that, but they've done

834
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 4: something this year that they have not done. And maybe

835
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: that comes with the responsibility of in this new deal,

836
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: we will give you more money. So when more money

837
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: come to more responsibilities, so on and so forth. But

838
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 4: I'm I'm happy for Will, but he needs he needs

839
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 4: to have one of those home run drafts, especially in

840
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: this year, because you have a lot of There isn't

841
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 4: a position that you don't have a need for, like literally,

842
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 4: i mean quarterback.

843
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 5: But there isn't a position that you don't have ane.

844
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Speaker 2: And if you miss, if you miss on three drafts

845
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: in a row, you wreck, you wreck, You're setting You're

846
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: setting yourself back. That's one draft care you're set back

847
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: for what the next eight to ten years to catch

848
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: back up.

849
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Speaker 4: Especially for an organization that doesn't spend actively at the

850
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: high end and free agency. Right, So, like you can

851
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: kind of miss in the draft, but you're like, all right, cool,

852
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go spend some money over here to kind

853
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: of supplement us missing there. It's more like like Nate said,

854
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 4: it's all about draft developed pay those guys, and that's

855
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: how they kind of work their system. So if those

856
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: guys aren't hitting, they ain't going out there bring top

857
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 4: level free agency and to supplement the misses that they

858
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 4: have in the drive.

859
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Speaker 3: You wind up with three superstars on your team that

860
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: and no help. Like that's what you got right? All right,

861
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: real quick before we get out of here.

862
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Speaker 2: Ibra flus as the DC Jesse, you got some some

863
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: ties with him, you spent some time with him.

864
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Speaker 3: Any thoughts indifferent on that as well.

865
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Speaker 7: In your tone good luck.

866
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 5: Not good luck?

867
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Speaker 7: I just don't.

868
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 4: I mean at that time, I mean it was a

869
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: decent was you know, linebackers coaching that don't really matter

870
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: in the grand scheme of things.

871
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: He had Sean Lee keep Brooks.

872
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 7: Way to go, brother, I'm gonna tell ya something in.

873
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Speaker 3: This on a high note, Nate, come on in this

874
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: on a high note.

875
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 7: About that.

876
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 6: If this is gonna be different, you got this is

877
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 6: not a you can talk, you know. He he did

878
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 6: a great uh opening. I mean they opened with him.

879
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 6: Normally they let mister Jones open. He opened it up.

880
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 7: I mean he he started from I mean.

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00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 6: Inspirational, all that is good into the fourth quarter with

882
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 6: two minutes left, you down by three, you own the

883
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 6: or you on your thirty and we need to take

884
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 6: this thing.

885
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 7: In Philadelphia to show that we're competitive.

886
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Speaker 6: What you're gonna do, Bro, You think the speech gonna help,

887
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 6: you think putting these players in the proper position and

888
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 6: keeping the right ones gonna gonna gonna give us what

889
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 6: we need as fans.

890
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 7: That's my deal.

891
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 6: I'll be watching you, mister Schottenheimer. I'll be watching you

892
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 6: because that's that's what you left me.

893
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

894
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 6: With everybody else, we can put something on Ben Johnson creative.

895
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 6: This guy, oh, a task master. This guy, oh, he

896
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 6: runs everything. We know everybody who was out there, We

897
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 6: don't know this guy. So we have to stay neutral

898
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 6: as media. And now we have to have a critical eye.

899
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 6: You know it, don't don't nothing come with him? But

900
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 6: he learned by watching, by doing, just by seeing and

901
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 6: never and never took control of anything. So we'll see.

902
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 6: And I just think the fans deserve to kind of

903
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 6: know what they're getting. But just like us as media,

904
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 6: we don't know what we're getting. So we can't be

905
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 6: super critical or we can't be over the top. We

906
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 6: know you can make a good speech, but can you

907
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 6: coach these men?

908
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: And one last little tidbit on that life is completely

909
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: different when you're just a coordinator and to when you're

910
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: in charge of everything.

911
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 5: Practice plans, travel uniforms, you know, like, there's so many

912
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 5: things you're gonna practice. I'm dealing with off the.

913
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 4: Field stuffcause some of my players got this stuff going on,

914
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: and I got this guy upset, and you know, and

915
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: and Ibra Fluis, he runs a pretty basic defense, so

916
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: he gonna have to do something. You're gonna have to

917
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: do some crisis management when some other guys in that

918
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 4: defense saying, Hey, I don't want to keep standing in

919
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: this stagnant spot that you normally run your regular players.

920
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: And I'm used to being moved around and I'm used

921
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: to being shown off in a way that this ain't

922
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: really So how do you handle crisis management? How do

923
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 4: you handle all of these things? The media podcast is

924
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 4: it's a lot that comes with being the head coach.

925
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 4: So those attention and details that are needed when it

926
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 4: comes to being the play caller and the head coach

927
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 4: for a guy who's never done it.

928
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we watch them, well said, we're watching, so are

929
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: the fans.

930
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 7: So University takes you got eyes on you.

931
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: There you go, There you go, Jesse, good luck on

932
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: finishing out.

933
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate.

934
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: We also got to say to our guy, to our guy,

935
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 4: Kyle and and uh and Jack Williams. Lucas his birthday Saturday.

936
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: Lucas is turning three. All right, Lucas is turning three,

937
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: So happy birthday.

938
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 7: Being the.

939
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Eat some ice cream for you on Saturday. Jake to Yeah,

940
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: good luck cake tps.

941
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 5: I'm watch out, Kate, Kate, Kate, get it ready for Saturday.

942
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 5: I'm bringing that big. I'm bringing that that that that

943
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 5: super Bowl packed from wing stop.

944
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: Man we go so Jesse will be uh well hydrated

945
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: and man.

946
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 6: I just been busier and Jesse park Yeah.

947
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: This weekend, baby, hold up on Tuesday. Next Thursday, Chris,

948
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 3: get us some wings in here on Thursday so Jesse

949
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: can eat.

950
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 7: Kirk.

951
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: Good seeing you, Nate, Hey, I like I like serious

952
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: no Bsny.

953
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 7: We buy tickets every year every year. Hey, I'm more

954
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 7: than just talking about this day.

955
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: Chris, thanks for keeping us all the air jazz and

956
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: Josh thanks for keeping him company.

957
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: Chris strapped back now, I don't know, strap up the

958
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: back pat Chris. We coming?

959
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 7: We out?

960
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: Oh, hanging with the boys. We Out.

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