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Speaker 1: Let's dive right in which Big Three championship was more

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Speaker 1: special and why I got my answer? Let me hear yours.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's a great one.

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Speaker 1: Can we go first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because I'm going with the first one.

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Speaker 2: You go first. I got my own reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the first championship was the most special one because

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Speaker 1: I hadn't had one yet, you already had that's one.

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Speaker 1: So it's always be my favorite one. Two. If we

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Speaker 1: don't win that championship, who the fuck knows what happens.

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Speaker 2: We ain't getting the number two.

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Speaker 1: So so for me, number one by the last slide,

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Speaker 1: just because even even when we went through that season,

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Speaker 1: right you go. You you have the ending of the

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Speaker 1: season like we had before, which is Dallas awful, right, lockout,

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Speaker 1: gets late start, get the bumping, Chris Bosh goes down, right,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Love, I mean Kevin Love. I'm talking about Cleveland, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, uh Cleveland, but Chris Bosh goes down. You

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Speaker 1: looking to close out. How epic that Lebron James game was,

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Speaker 1: and then the winning So the first one, the first

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Speaker 1: one for me, it's I mean, obviously it's close, right,

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Speaker 1: you get you don't you don't want to favor to

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Speaker 1: me favorites and when you're talking about your children. But

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Speaker 1: we just don't know if there's a second one. We

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Speaker 1: so you're a legend. I'm not. That's that's why.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of clutting the championship starting to run together.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the second one, the second one, just

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Speaker 2: because I've never been in a situation where we lost

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Speaker 2: game one and okay, see walking back in the locker

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Speaker 2: the craziest ship in where we had literally just lost

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Speaker 2: But obviously if everybody understood you know what, Okay, she

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Speaker 2: good basketball team, a good young basketball team. So even

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Speaker 2: though we had Lebron and we had d Wade, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they had their own big three, and it was a

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Speaker 1: So you think, you think too against San Antonio was

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Speaker 2: For me, it was I was already used to win

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Speaker 2: already won. You know, I was used to winning already,

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's a little different from me. But

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Speaker 2: the second way, you know, the second one started off,

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Speaker 2: when you lose game one in a playoff series, especially

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Speaker 2: We go down two, we're in trouble. It was none

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you man, like you try to express

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Speaker 1: Listen what playoff basketball and NBA Finals basketball is And

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Speaker 2: Of the world. You want to take a lott walk,

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Speaker 1: It's broke as my body was. I think I was

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Speaker 2: You have to have that structure, that coach of those

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Speaker 1: What was y'all reaction in the moment when Ray hit

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Speaker 2: Shit, I was like, Ray, get them goddamn get them

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Speaker 1: And that was a crazy That was a crazy game. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: Man, it's it's it is. It was a gumbo soup

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Speaker 1: From that team, man, whether it was a culture, from

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Speaker 1: There was so many things, man like. It's changed me

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Speaker 1: as a as a person, really.

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Speaker 2: And that's the biggest thing that you know, I think

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Speaker 2: you said because anything that I do in life, You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. When it comes to business and

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Speaker 2: I understand having those uncomfortable but worthy worth it having conversations.

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Speaker 2: I understand what it means to push somebody to be

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I understand what all those

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Speaker 2: feel like, you know, and I understand how to do

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Speaker 2: those things because of being around that group. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Because what peop don't understand. As much

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Speaker 2: as I might have wanted sometimes CB's minutes, or sometimes

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Speaker 2: you might have wanted more minutes, we all cared for

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Speaker 2: each other, you know what I'm saying. Outside the basketball court,

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Speaker 2: you wanted to see CB do well. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying it's crazy though for even even

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Speaker 1: though yes, even though it was basketball, it's like it's

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Speaker 1: really like it's such a blessing. And again this is

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Speaker 1: not to be corny or anything about it. Like with

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Speaker 1: that team, it was it was like going to a

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Speaker 1: It's like it's getting free schooling. And I mean that

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Speaker 1: There's common denominators, man, and you see it. And when

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Speaker 1: had some seasons in Miami even though you're here the

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Speaker 1: whole time, that weren't so successful. I'd seen it. I've

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Speaker 1: seen being really bad, and you start seeing why you're

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Speaker 1: like it was literally like getting schooled and getting like

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Speaker 1: you're taking Ray Allen who's been doing this forever. Right,

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Speaker 1: you have James Jones who who attacks it completely different,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, you got Lebron who brought it every single day.

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Speaker 1: You see d in those moments Chris Bosh, who was

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Speaker 1: like our practices were fucking more lit than games, Like

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Speaker 1: we should have sold tickets to those And.

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Speaker 2: I think people would understand. I think if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 2: Brohn made a quote the other day and he talked

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Speaker 2: he was just saying that a group of dogs dogs,

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think people understood how talented we were.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people understood how hard we were, how

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Speaker 2: It was a reason why Spoke put me on the

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