Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black
Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition All the Smoke. We're on this
Speaker 1: NYC run because you already know. We got some representatives
Speaker 1: over here. Man, one of the best podcasts in the
Speaker 1: game and a million dollars worth of game Me Me, Me, me,
Speaker 1: million dollars world time out. Why did you shake his hand,
Speaker 1: y'all to see you all day? I'm not shaking his hand.
Speaker 1: That's a little too much. No, you want to hug
Speaker 1: hug you. Let's get a group on, y'all. We're not
Speaker 1: doing man, welcome to the show. You already know who
Speaker 1: they are. But Gilly and Walla, man, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I forgot when you came from. Forgot where you came from.
Speaker 1: And he liked to hug it out. But I just
Speaker 1: like the hunt people. That's as a prison hug. I mean,
Speaker 1: uh man. We both pretty much got starting this game
Speaker 1: at the same time. And it's dope to see. Obviously,
Speaker 1: people you kind of sell on the same level. You know,
Speaker 1: we kind of both respectably in our in our categories
Speaker 1: have kind of risen to the top. When been like
Speaker 1: for you guys. For me, man, it's just been you know,
Speaker 1: chasing it, you know, trying to get a use more
Speaker 1: game with HA got its attention, motivation and education, you know,
Speaker 1: and just and just really trying to get the coach
Speaker 1: at the interviews that they're looking for and the content
Speaker 1: that they're looking for. That's all we we about. You know.
Speaker 1: We won't do a lot. We just to be older,
Speaker 1: so we chill, you know, we we you know, go,
Speaker 1: We just basically documentary life, you know, turning camera on
Speaker 1: a documentary life, So get the interviews that people want
Speaker 1: to see and give them to the world. Saw while
Speaker 1: where you were sitting at a while ago, um, sitting
Speaker 1: down got out. Did you ever picture it was gonna
Speaker 1: be like this? I'm sure you had an idea of
Speaker 1: what you could do. You think I knew that. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out get with because and I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna live. I ain't had I wasn't It wasn't overstructure.
Speaker 1: I ain't no overthinking. I ain't no super plan. I'm
Speaker 1: just a doer. Uh and uh. I got came home,
Speaker 1: was doing my thing on social media. I actually started
Speaker 1: my my Instagram in jail. I had a wireless hot
Speaker 1: spot in an I pod touch down. I did from
Speaker 1: thirty I mean from a seventeen and thirty seven two
Speaker 1: on Robbie's Too Fine on by Leasia's had got sense
Speaker 1: to nineteen and a half to fifty two years since
Speaker 1: did twenty. Came home and violated twice. Huh violated, I said,
Speaker 1: I got I since the nineteen and they had. I
Speaker 1: had two different cases. I got since the nineteen they
Speaker 1: had the fifty two years. I came home, but I
Speaker 1: was already doing my thing on Instagram in the cell.
Speaker 1: They ran in my cell one day, caught me with
Speaker 1: a five cell phones. I started selling phones and shoot,
Speaker 1: they got turned into the tech communications. Yeah, so so
Speaker 1: uh I was just I was. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know, ain't nobody on social media because I used
Speaker 1: to just talks the dudes in the yard trying. This
Speaker 1: was two thousand and thirteen and fourteen I had the
Speaker 1: cell phone and then I got caught fourteen and I
Speaker 1: came home two thousand seventeen. Okay, I mean, really respect
Speaker 1: your grind, you know, obviously being a fan of getting
Speaker 1: to know you more. But like you said, you're not overthinking.
Speaker 1: You were talking to me and Jack before we got
Speaker 1: on camera about just how you hit the ground running
Speaker 1: and your motivational speaking. You're out here running in motherfucking
Speaker 1: monsoons giving people game My life like worth all that
Speaker 1: energy and and and thoughtfulness. Cover from one of my
Speaker 1: homies told me I was the happiest, happiest dude in jail.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, you're the happiest name jail man.
Speaker 1: Eight jobs, listen, I said after the wrestling team. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't capital. You know, I'm not gonna say all that.
Speaker 1: I will say this, I didn't listen, Listen. I had
Speaker 1: a lot of jobs. I had a lot of jobs
Speaker 1: so I could move around the prison. You know. I
Speaker 1: worked in the warehouse. I worked in none of the
Speaker 1: job No, I'm just saying I was. I was a
Speaker 1: chef in the jail. I didn't do that one. I
Speaker 1: thought about it, but I didn't do that. That was
Speaker 1: a little whatever. But I usually just so. One day
Speaker 1: my home, he said, yo, you always have. I said,
Speaker 1: you know why I'm I know why I'm here. I
Speaker 1: did my crown. I ain't no innocent man. So I'm
Speaker 1: doing my time and I know I'm gonna go home.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna be here mad at the world because,
Speaker 1: like I tell people, I wasn't in jail. I was
Speaker 1: in yail. I wasn't in prison. I was in you know, Princeton.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in state Pen. I was in Penn State.
Speaker 1: I was getting my mind together, doing reading, watching things
Speaker 1: on TV magazines, smut, definitely foreign magazines. That was. That
Speaker 1: was a big study of mine. Um, just live in
Speaker 1: life and just study. You know, you have to be
Speaker 1: you have to have the gift or gab and be
Speaker 1: a finessa to have all them jobs and all the connections.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't. All I had to do is
Speaker 1: one thing I had to move the lock in my
Speaker 1: next move when I went and did a job. See
Speaker 1: one thing about dude, especially from our culture, niggas don't
Speaker 1: like to work. They're lazy. I'm not gonna be straight up.
Speaker 1: I'm the type of dude if I come in here,
Speaker 1: I gotta run this joint. I'm gonna run this thing.
Speaker 1: And if you had the way to get out the way.
Speaker 1: So my work out there was so good that supervisor
Speaker 1: tell superviol like, yo, I'm trying to get that at
Speaker 1: a job. I'm gonna call over this dude. So you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you gotta move. You
Speaker 1: gotta move the lock in your next move. I'm I
Speaker 1: start off in nineteen cents, so I said, damn, okay,
Speaker 1: the highs you go with forty two cent. When I
Speaker 1: get to forty two cents, I'm working for a pay
Speaker 1: raise that don't exist. I'm just a grinder because grind.
Speaker 1: If you grind out anywhere on the earth, you're gonna
Speaker 1: fucking win. Now if you're gonna bullshit, you want to
Speaker 1: be lazy, you want to be cool, you want to
Speaker 1: be uh lit, you ain't got ship coming. So my
Speaker 1: whole thing is like I don't care where I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go at. I'mna just grind and anything gonna pay off.
Speaker 1: You know, for the future of podcasting, what comes to
Speaker 1: your mind when we tell you, like, you guys are
Speaker 1: the future in your genre of podcasting? What does that
Speaker 1: mean to you? Because I know when me and Jack
Speaker 1: got in the game, we were at my house smoking
Speaker 1: in the bag and I was like, you want to
Speaker 1: do a podcast? We didn't really even know what it was.
Speaker 1: I'm sure probably similar to you guys, like what is
Speaker 1: it really? But at the end of the day. It's
Speaker 1: just y'all being y'all. So when we said, like, you
Speaker 1: guys are setting the bar for the future of podcasting
Speaker 1: in your genre, what does that mean to you? I
Speaker 1: just think, uh, I think we're setting it because me
Speaker 1: and Gil came and from people knowing us, we made
Speaker 1: it look so easy to where do you see us
Speaker 1: just all these dudes is cutting the cameral. You don't
Speaker 1: see the side of us setting the company up, making
Speaker 1: sure s your trademarket, paying taxas, going to be an ate,
Speaker 1: buying thousands, thousands of thousands of dollars worth of equipment.
Speaker 1: You know, me sitting there learning and ship myself. When
Speaker 1: I came over, listen, we're saying, you know what, we're
Speaker 1: set in the studio. We're gonna get this building. We're
Speaker 1: gonna down here, we're gonna build this room. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get on sign, We're gonna do this, We're gonna get this.
Speaker 1: So it was like people don't see that part, but
Speaker 1: we make it look so easy where it is you
Speaker 1: can take a phone and the app and start a podcast.
Speaker 1: And that's our whole thing, Our whole thing that people
Speaker 1: is just do that ship to me a podcast and that,
Speaker 1: but people did talking about a certain topic of issue
Speaker 1: or whatever. That's all this ship is to me. So
Speaker 1: we're not gonna overdo it. The only thing is different
Speaker 1: from us even it's gonna be me and him or
Speaker 1: we will get the people that you like and we're
Speaker 1: gonna give them to give you a million dollars worth
Speaker 1: the game. But based off their experience, you was able
Speaker 1: to give million illars worth the game because you didn't
Speaker 1: make millions. You didn't made it happen. You got you
Speaker 1: got stuff that you could tell, you know, on life
Speaker 1: on sports. So that's all we do and it's simple.
Speaker 1: Now you don't have to do that. You can talk
Speaker 1: about you can you can have a podcast talking about furniture,
Speaker 1: and I don't think people understand that. You can have
Speaker 1: a podcast, uh, having fictional stories. You can have a
Speaker 1: podcast talking about cars. You can have a podcast talking
Speaker 1: about anything anything. People don't people people try to from
Speaker 1: our coach and we looked at the same thing. Oh
Speaker 1: let's talk about rap, Oh let's talk about sports. Oh
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. In order to be taken to
Speaker 1: the next level in this game, you gotta bring something
Speaker 1: new to where's you can put ads up against that
Speaker 1: ship to where it's okay. If I'm talking about furniture,
Speaker 1: you know, many furniture companies probably want to put ads
Speaker 1: on that ship table. And I don't think people understand
Speaker 1: the business side. They're just looking at like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: just talking. No, this shn't been the side. Baby. We
Speaker 1: believe in what we sell them right, willing to invest
Speaker 1: whatever it takes instand whatever and to our ship for
Speaker 1: our ship to go. You know what I mean. A
Speaker 1: lot of people be one foot and one foot out.
Speaker 1: Even the people that got money, they're gonna use somebody
Speaker 1: else money that. Yeah, well, we don't wait on nobody. Man,
Speaker 1: be like, no, that's what we want to do. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's sign a production car, okay with you'a okay, look
Speaker 1: we want your TV. Come on, let's go. Let's get
Speaker 1: it what you want. Okay. We don't play no game
Speaker 1: because we're living in the world wars though, uh technology
Speaker 1: cut the middleman out. I'm not. I'm not playing no
Speaker 1: games and waiting for nobody. We gotta sit here because
Speaker 1: you know, you got agencies, you've got talent, as you
Speaker 1: gotta companies. Anybody want to be sitting here wait and
Speaker 1: talk about the formula. My life wasn't no fucking formula
Speaker 1: or no blueprint that somebody else lived My life. My
Speaker 1: life was me getting up. I'm successful because I got
Speaker 1: up and I just done all that structural ship. I
Speaker 1: ain't know nothing about that overthink, overthinking ship. But we
Speaker 1: don't even believe. We won't even subscribe to that ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You want to do something to do this because this
Speaker 1: and because you think about that ship too much? Man,
Speaker 1: we just go man, you know, And it's simple as
Speaker 1: if you want to shoot the movie, you can shoot
Speaker 1: it on here. If you got a couple of hours,
Speaker 1: go get with a production company. If you ain't got
Speaker 1: no money for no production company, who to due to
Speaker 1: your neighborhood. That's a good videographer, and who now to edit? Listen, man,
Speaker 1: I got this cover. It's simple cutting the middle man,
Speaker 1: because you'll sit there and you'll be waiting all this
Speaker 1: super deep ship. I gotta get it this, I gotta man,
Speaker 1: it's more. Motherfucker's in your pocket, man, don on yourself.
Speaker 1: Put it out. And if you got an audience, the
Speaker 1: audiences where the money, you know? I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: care if you got this or this company. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: they need your audience. And just like M like, I
Speaker 1: know that should ain't scripted, but that's he did on
Speaker 1: his own. When you go to the car dealership, when
Speaker 1: you go to the shirt place, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's on your own. That's scripted. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's the hustle that that that's probably
Speaker 1: lost today. You know what, you don't understand that type
Speaker 1: of hustle, but that's but that's people understanding business Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you move the needle. Okay, how can we make this
Speaker 1: relationship work? Okay, I'm gonna need I'm gonna need some
Speaker 1: of this company. Yeah yeah, it's equity out of it. Okay, equity.
Speaker 1: I need some money and I need some equity. So
Speaker 1: now when when i'm when i'm representing, I'm not representing
Speaker 1: from the company. I'm representing. Yeah, that's me speaking for
Speaker 1: all of us. Yeah, because that's my ship too. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. So for us, man, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't really never overthink ship man, because a lot
Speaker 1: of times that be people feeling you because you're going
Speaker 1: to do something. They want to do something to heppen Man,
Speaker 1: do that ship. And the way to go is you'll
Speaker 1: think about it. Okay, this is what I want to do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drink this water. Then I'm sitting back and
Speaker 1: thinking I'm thirsty. Why they ain't drink they water? Now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna weight do they drink they drink? That ships dumb? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And everybody is valuing a bunch of people opinion. It
Speaker 1: ain't do nothing. But listen, you're not telling me. You're
Speaker 1: not telling me how to how to make this table.
Speaker 1: If you never made no tables, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: hear it. Just because your fears and their securities and
Speaker 1: your show comings on life, that ship ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: to do with me. Say that ship. That's huge because
Speaker 1: people the negativity comes from fear. Fear from that person,
Speaker 1: be fear on you and turn into negative conversation because
Speaker 1: they're scared. They're scared to go out there and get it.
Speaker 1: And whatever you got to say about me, guess what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Waller was a dick kid, while a little goofy wall
Speaker 1: a little crazy. Oh hold up, that ain't none of
Speaker 1: my business. If I'm worried about what you're saying. The
Speaker 1: mind of your business now ain't got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with me. And I hope that whatever you're saying about me,
Speaker 1: you're putting that ship out there to the union. It's
Speaker 1: going social media talk about because hey, this is your
Speaker 1: marketing team left. Please please don't the work you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So you know, I think people like
Speaker 1: we're living in the world is technology, whereas though comments
Speaker 1: got too much power, people fair comments more than they
Speaker 1: fear guy in this world, I'm talking about comments like
Speaker 1: you know, they it breaks in my whole light and
Speaker 1: shadows my whole life a couple of comments. So now
Speaker 1: we're living in the world where everybody fearful. So it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, is that the comment could be a sixteen
Speaker 1: year old boy in Nova Scotia a fake page. They've
Speaker 1: never done that, but they put that negative energy or
Speaker 1: it's just like I like to call it a transformation
Speaker 1: of energy, because like we could all be sitting in
Speaker 1: here and we're all happy, were busting it up, and
Speaker 1: somebody could walk in with some negative energy and it's like,
Speaker 1: what's up the whole change, the whole room, up, the
Speaker 1: whole rule up. Now we're sitting here. We ain't he
Speaker 1: got the same energy because his energy the whole room.
Speaker 1: Y'all done a lot of interviews Man Floyd, Kadine, Shock
Speaker 1: Ice Cub. What's the best interview to y'all y'all done
Speaker 1: up to date that had y'all all for me? It's
Speaker 1: got it. You know, I'm um. My first love before
Speaker 1: my wife and was basketball, so it probably would have
Speaker 1: had to be the k D or you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying because I'm um. Yeah, he grew up, you know,
Speaker 1: he grew up like a rap groupie. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, the loving something that never loves you. You
Speaker 1: was a bum you went to D League college. I
Speaker 1: got was he was a bum like but he was
Speaker 1: in love with it. Wasn't love with different you like
Speaker 1: I was. He wasn't love it was I wasn't you
Speaker 1: see how said that was my O G See I
Speaker 1: look that rappers as like t D was my own
Speaker 1: cool you know what I mean? It's easy. He was
Speaker 1: my own with these dudes, my owncles and ship and
Speaker 1: cousins and ship. I didn't look at him like y'all did.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna just say this, how could you love basketball? Basketball?
Speaker 1: You never loved you was a bom. You went to
Speaker 1: DV College. You went your college. Nobody nobody here here
Speaker 1: know what your college is. You said you went to
Speaker 1: shout off to everybody's going to college, educating yourself in Combrini.
Speaker 1: But you went to college that nobody know you was
Speaker 1: a baby. If you didn't go to New d one.
Speaker 1: You keep talking about my college and didn't go to
Speaker 1: New d one club back and get you. You ain't
Speaker 1: going to know d one gonna come back again, come
Speaker 1: back again. You don't go to New d one school.
Speaker 1: He man because he was a bumbling let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question and won't let you. But what up here?
Speaker 1: He from basketball? That ship? Do we know I'm asking
Speaker 1: you a question? Yes, dude, Yes, because he can sit
Speaker 1: him right now when the name a bunch of hood
Speaker 1: legends in his hood, that's like no he but he
Speaker 1: got cooled up. I got, I got, I got uh
Speaker 1: locked up. When I was in college, who's your game? Like?
Speaker 1: Who's my game? But I was about to I would
Speaker 1: like that, yeah, yeah game. While you messing that, Why
Speaker 1: are you messing that man? Name us chips? Tell him
Speaker 1: who my game? Like you know who my man is
Speaker 1: telling Stanley Roberts. No, No, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: even know. You already know. You already know college. It
Speaker 1: was nice in college, it was you already you already
Speaker 1: know who. You already know who. Who's your game like
Speaker 1: in your opinion, you already know. Come on, san Kemp,
Speaker 1: stop playing. You already new that who you know that
Speaker 1: you That's when San Kemp is nothing to like was
Speaker 1: running calling your prod. That's my Kim got like t
Speaker 1: kij and you gotta camp you like you just hate
Speaker 1: on me. Man, Why are you gonna convenion yourself to somebody?
Speaker 1: You'll have nothing that ought to have been showing Kemp.
Speaker 1: Kemp got like fifteen and ain't got to do with
Speaker 1: his kids. I'm telling this game was like that, like
Speaker 1: you're shooting blakes, Pops won't come out like everybody I mentioned.
Speaker 1: You know when I say when I talk about sporting,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like Dee Brown and I'm he always said,
Speaker 1: well that's thing was all right, but like they be
Speaker 1: his favorite players. Like I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just I just I'll be worried about your hood
Speaker 1: game by your attire. No, it's a color scheme. Because
Speaker 1: you know they can't. A lot of them insensitive to colors.
Speaker 1: So when I come, they thinking straight up, they're like, oh, here,
Speaker 1: don't know. I only don't know what's going on. So
Speaker 1: if I come on and it didn't you did come
Speaker 1: on the field. See that's what I ain't said. If
Speaker 1: y'all said the court, now listen, and then it's this too,
Speaker 1: This is this a lot of teams. Did you see
Speaker 1: me winning? On? One thing about me? My teams change
Speaker 1: every year. Okay, like Milwaukee's my fucking squad right now.
Speaker 1: I've been with every I'm just being straight up. I'm
Speaker 1: not staying with nobody. That's don't want no championships. The
Speaker 1: Lakers is like, that's hound rocking. I'm not sitting there
Speaker 1: waiting for no team to win. Why does not do
Speaker 1: stupid this year? I gotta wait to the final shot.
Speaker 1: But walking I'm still holding right now on the strip
Speaker 1: for real, because they say my game was like kids
Speaker 1: too on back in the day. Tip But like I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta stay your turn of ship. Let me
Speaker 1: let me tell you a question we asked right. We
Speaker 1: had we had a basketball play on the podcast, right,
Speaker 1: and we asked them who career. Would you rather have
Speaker 1: Robert Dory video playing or Charles Barkley? You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was a great player, but he didn't
Speaker 1: win new rings. You know what this man said Barkley
Speaker 1: once he said, I don't drinking? Who was on Robert?
Speaker 1: Or I had? Like you keep getting being a locking
Speaker 1: those bullish bullish point champagne or you don't point that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm not a stripper, man, Why would I want that
Speaker 1: ship me? Mike? You know, I don't know what was
Speaker 1: going on the blocking room. You're gonna do spring you
Speaker 1: down with Champagne? What type of wow? I'm not going
Speaker 1: to I'm not going through that ship. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to here spraying the Champagne on me? Man? What the
Speaker 1: fund is going in? Some players that probably made fifteen
Speaker 1: to ten All Star games that would rather be round
Speaker 1: old right now, that that don't have no championship, don't joint,
Speaker 1: they want to bro It's some players. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of play to matter you. I'd rather be Barkley to
Speaker 1: Parkley to fucking leg you. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: post career Barkley the way he's shaped, but like it's
Speaker 1: partner's a legend. People love Robert. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna front. I'm not stuff back in bag. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: just dirt. Like if you told me, I got a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for r too. But if you told
Speaker 1: me you want to be Barkley or Robert Royal, I
Speaker 1: say Barkeley. But that's what his reasons. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is either, but I don't want thank you.
Speaker 1: He's with me. But you wouldn't want win the championship
Speaker 1: because you want won Champagne. And if I do win
Speaker 1: the championship, experience of Champagne, championships are amazing. Like I
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, somebody spray you now. I got
Speaker 1: sprayed down a by Tim dr from Champagne. That was
Speaker 1: the best Champaigne shower. Whatever my kids do it, and
Speaker 1: I'll take another Champagne shower. I'm celebrating. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if you're looking at what's wrong? I got I got
Speaker 1: a confession to expected. I got one confession to me.
Speaker 1: There wasn't Barkley Barkley. Barkley Barkley especially that one of
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite players. Barkley is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite players. And I was a Phoenix Suns fan.
Speaker 1: They didn't win. Dan Marley Sais camballis you know the
Speaker 1: whole team that was my squad at that time. Putting
Speaker 1: it out there kJ kJ that was my guy because
Speaker 1: they said my game similar is too. But I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a lection. But listen, I'm gonna say this too.
Speaker 1: That's the only team I probably really liked it didn't win.
Speaker 1: I liked it them for a minute. They didn't win.
Speaker 1: They disappointed me. But most of my teams won. Chips.
Speaker 1: You pick them in the front of the house. Pick
Speaker 1: I'll pick him. Listen, I'll wait till they win. I
Speaker 1: just had both of my jerseys prepared, expecially it's going
Speaker 1: down and if it's I get emotional because I had
Speaker 1: this attachment with the victory. Remember to the Lakers when
Speaker 1: I cried, I called you crying. I was happy. Okay,
Speaker 1: So moving on the simble. I love the Sember. You
Speaker 1: guys are gonna start going on tour, and tell us
Speaker 1: about your tour and uh the cities you guys playing
Speaker 1: On December We're in d C, d C. Then December,
Speaker 1: then the Sember fifth, we're in New York City. Then
Speaker 1: December seventh, win in Baltimore, and it goes when we're
Speaker 1: going to l A, We're going to San Francisco, We're
Speaker 1: going to Chicago, We're going to Atlanta. We're getting seven
Speaker 1: cities in like two weeks. We're not playing, man, you
Speaker 1: know I need some v I P. We're not coming.
Speaker 1: We got you, We got you man, We're gonna be
Speaker 1: in the trip in Atlantic. What we want be gonna
Speaker 1: do it up man, mat if that you're gonna pull up,
Speaker 1: sit down on the couch with it. We have some
Speaker 1: fun talk about life whatever. So how did you guys
Speaker 1: come across that? No, we just we we already one
Speaker 1: thing about us. We did our own show in Philly,
Speaker 1: sold out in Philly our first year we did one,
Speaker 1: the crowd was maybe I think it was seven hundred people.
Speaker 1: The second one we did, I think the crowd was
Speaker 1: a thousand people, and then the met was thirty five.
Speaker 1: Just out right yeah yeah. I had to bring it
Speaker 1: easy out. Yeah yeah. So you know, we just just
Speaker 1: trying to keep elevating. That's big though. We might have
Speaker 1: some ship for y'all. Two are you guys working with
Speaker 1: a group that does that or you guys put all
Speaker 1: that together? Now, we we got we got help put
Speaker 1: it together. We might have some ship to talk about. Two.
Speaker 1: We're going on tour and when we're doing we're hitting
Speaker 1: in two. But we're bringing ourselves a musical act in
Speaker 1: the comedians, so just kind of making like an evening.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, well that's when we did at the met
Speaker 1: We sold the net out just just on us first
Speaker 1: of all. But then yeah, it's a problem was magic.
Speaker 1: So imagine you think you're just coming to watch us
Speaker 1: on the couch and didn't get there. And we we
Speaker 1: bring out Ja, the kids, we bring our fabulous we
Speaker 1: bring out beanie and free ways, we bring out sm
Speaker 1: be ready, and then we brought out yeah that's tough
Speaker 1: stuff me and then with me, this is good. It's
Speaker 1: Theally sent Kanye the video of me and said I
Speaker 1: didn't knew you was in Philly, and Kanye said that's iconic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's up. That's one thing I will say. I just
Speaker 1: watched his his interview on Drink Champs, and you can
Speaker 1: say whatever you want, but I just think the more
Speaker 1: and more I watched him, like the David Man. He
Speaker 1: was saying some off the washing once in a while,
Speaker 1: but more times or not, he's on point. He's on
Speaker 1: point more times than not. His on point Kanye happy
Speaker 1: both y'all from Philly. I didn't know until we were
Speaker 1: doing our research, you guys, the first cousins, I don't
Speaker 1: even know that. That's dope, my little cousin, my little
Speaker 1: cousin ship Okay, little bit used to change it, but
Speaker 1: he's on. No, I'm only right the funk out forty
Speaker 1: five okay, Okay, So talking about him to the storm,
Speaker 1: should God give me a solar change something, you guys,
Speaker 1: influences coming up in Philly in the early eighties, minds
Speaker 1: was you know Barkley Dr J. You know his was rappers, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he always wanted to rap. He knew that since he
Speaker 1: was I didn't. I didn't. Yeah, he didn't know if
Speaker 1: the skills man, he had it on the rap side.
Speaker 1: He was what I said, he didn't hand. He was nice.
Speaker 1: He was he was a little key. Yeah. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a better nie. He was a better thief than
Speaker 1: he was rappers. He was better yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's
Speaker 1: I'll think. I think growing up in the ghettos of America,
Speaker 1: all of us have an outlet. Some of it is sports,
Speaker 1: whether football, whether it's basketball, few baseball and some of
Speaker 1: our outlets be the music these outlets is with um.
Speaker 1: The music be the soundtrack to the struggle and it
Speaker 1: being release when you're going through what you're going through.
Speaker 1: Especially in the eighties, it was like to me, my
Speaker 1: release was when I'm listening to publicanting me or whoever
Speaker 1: I was listening to, that was the soundtrack to my struggle.
Speaker 1: That when we could listen to this music or or
Speaker 1: you go to the hoop court. Because ship was really
Speaker 1: in the eighties, I don't think you know now like
Speaker 1: a lot of kids, I tell him, I say, y'all
Speaker 1: don't even understand how good y'all got. This Ship is
Speaker 1: like a like we couldn't even a fan or dream
Speaker 1: about living in this world. This is just like a
Speaker 1: different world that y'all got growing up in the Uh
Speaker 1: How we be how now we ever to be in
Speaker 1: a position to give them a better life than we had.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of these dudes and grow up
Speaker 1: and see that you know, they mom smoking coke or
Speaker 1: they or they and got to come over the house
Speaker 1: because their mom on drugs and she even lost the house.
Speaker 1: And you gotta share clothes and sharing a bid and
Speaker 1: turning up you know, the TV with the pliers and
Speaker 1: the antenna is the cool hangar and just trying to
Speaker 1: refrigerate and get break down. You gotta put the stuff
Speaker 1: on the roof of you an apartment. So the music
Speaker 1: was That's why I love hip hip hop and just
Speaker 1: it was the music that had you think of somewhere else.
Speaker 1: When your mom played that music and she was cleaning
Speaker 1: the house and she was happy, he was happy. You
Speaker 1: didn't know what you was gonna eat. You know. The
Speaker 1: welfare moment was another. He was in another place when
Speaker 1: you heard your mom playing Luther Vandra. Oh my love,
Speaker 1: she's sweeping and you mopping. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: She's gonna put it together. She might got the next
Speaker 1: I was mopping. You didn't clean. I was mopping up.
Speaker 1: Get my ass whipped. That was a different story. You know.
Speaker 1: That's when you had an ass. They don't do them
Speaker 1: joint stuff. You know now you go to jail. Yeah, everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it is what it is. But like that,
Speaker 1: that was that even just to the breaking. I put
Speaker 1: the heads and feet on one. Motherfu kids when he
Speaker 1: was growing up. Literally they played hands. If you don't
Speaker 1: use small person, shut up. At the end, of the day.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it was like everybody
Speaker 1: had they released and you know, you know I had
Speaker 1: to escape sports or music. It was mine just listening.
Speaker 1: So you grew up in and out of juvie. You know.
Speaker 1: Obviously we talked about the bid. What was the turning
Speaker 1: point with the turning point hit you while you was
Speaker 1: in prison or did it hit like when did it
Speaker 1: hit you where I was in prison, Because you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta think. I first got a locked up June
Speaker 1: thirty of nineteen nine. That was a eleven for like
Speaker 1: a couple of days north North Philly. I got locked
Speaker 1: up for robbery and uh, mr family because my life, yeah, everyone, yeah,
Speaker 1: my life. It just went from near June thirty, nineteen ninety,
Speaker 1: I got locked up, but I got locked up another
Speaker 1: the week after that. By September nineteen nine, I was
Speaker 1: sent away for a year and I went on to
Speaker 1: spend five years in the juvenile system. And uh then
Speaker 1: when I was turned seventeen, I just turned seventeen in October.
Speaker 1: I had got I had got locked up for the cases,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to spend in the twenties. So since
Speaker 1: I've been on the planning, I spent more time incarcerated
Speaker 1: than I did. Freaks like this the first time in
Speaker 1: the history in my life since I was eleven, since
Speaker 1: the first time I got locked up, that I've ever
Speaker 1: been out of prison longer than the year. I make
Speaker 1: the five year mark on February seventeen, February eighteen, two
Speaker 1: thousand twenty two. So it's like, this is this is
Speaker 1: the first time. So you know, when I was in jail,
Speaker 1: what happened to me was I ain't shaking hand for
Speaker 1: not going to jail that long. Shut up like hugs.
Speaker 1: The reality is he starts that, yeah, my Selly, but
Speaker 1: that's another story. Listen, but uh I needed to hug sometimes.
Speaker 1: Selly hugged me. Police, you come up to my I'm spoon,
Speaker 1: we'll be out of this and we had our clothes
Speaker 1: when that one counts nothing that wouldn't be bad. But
Speaker 1: that's another story. But I'm gonna I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say this stuff. Uh what what? What
Speaker 1: What happened was, man, what really happened was when I
Speaker 1: was in jail, I realized that I was Uh I
Speaker 1: was in prison for living a lie, meaning and the
Speaker 1: in the ghettos of America. If you're not selling drugs,
Speaker 1: if you don't get no money, if you're not doing nothing,
Speaker 1: you're square. You're a lane, and you could be prayed.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people is out there, they're gonna
Speaker 1: operate outside of the law to be accepted as cool
Speaker 1: and put and it fortifies you and make people think
Speaker 1: that you're dangerous. The whole time. I had a conscience
Speaker 1: because when we used to do ship, just like, damn,
Speaker 1: why we do that? Why we do this? While we
Speaker 1: do that? And uh So when I got the prison,
Speaker 1: I woke up one day yeah yeah, that too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was like when I was in prison, I
Speaker 1: woke up one dawn, I was like, yo, I'm in
Speaker 1: jail for being somebody. I'm not like I did all
Speaker 1: this ship to be accepted by idea, the idea of cool,
Speaker 1: the idea of uh you know, fitting in. Because when
Speaker 1: I was young, only the pretty girls in my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: only people they talked to with the drug dealers, they
Speaker 1: pulled them to say, these bands with the jury on,
Speaker 1: and you never got accepted. And one thing that I
Speaker 1: loved about, one thing that I knew when I understood
Speaker 1: about America growing up, is that America loved a successful criminal.
Speaker 1: They praise him and they put him on the pedestal.
Speaker 1: So when I watch, if you ask the judge, a lawyer,
Speaker 1: copper district attorney or United States prosecutor, what's your favorite movie,
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, guy, father scar Fees. Where criminals is
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Like they're worshiped and they put on
Speaker 1: this pedestal. If you don't get caught, you go ahead
Speaker 1: because they are themselves that too. But it's like corporate
Speaker 1: yea too. So I'm sitting back as a kid and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at everybody fantasize about these criminals. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I gotta be a criminal. That's the most important person
Speaker 1: out here. It's not the police man, he don't get
Speaker 1: no props. But the dude that's selling the dog and
Speaker 1: got the car, or that's winning, or they come and
Speaker 1: you know, got the corner store and take care of
Speaker 1: old ladies and neighbor, take of the people. He got
Speaker 1: respect and he's feared. At the same time, he's the
Speaker 1: most respective person in America. So I'm like, I got
Speaker 1: to grow up to be. But once I learned that
Speaker 1: that idea was this, an idea, this and we and
Speaker 1: we fantasized about that. I'm like, all right, Okay, no,
Speaker 1: this ain't gonna work because it ain't no in between.
Speaker 1: It ain't between. You see that and you think it's
Speaker 1: in between. Ain't in between dead in jail. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't see any old happy drug dealers that my pops
Speaker 1: with the selling drugs and motherfucker's is either gonna be
Speaker 1: dead or in prison retired. Kicked my feet up. I'm
Speaker 1: a drug dealer. I did my whole list. You don't
Speaker 1: see that that's gonna happen. So what I try to
Speaker 1: do is I said, I'm gonna go to Instagram when
Speaker 1: I go home, and I'm an tell these these young
Speaker 1: cats you know, learn from my story but don't live
Speaker 1: my story. So I'm gonna share my story with him
Speaker 1: on my journey and just put it out there to
Speaker 1: speak in prison too, though, yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's where I was starting, in the prison yard.
Speaker 1: Now I ain't gonna see Martin, but that's where it started.
Speaker 1: But it was like, yeah, that's strong handle to take up.
Speaker 1: But it was like, I mean, that's strong. To see
Speaker 1: more of the month and that's still strong. But it's
Speaker 1: like the beat of it, as I said, when I
Speaker 1: come home, I said, anybody on here is um it's cool.
Speaker 1: They got money. So I said, I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: be able to compete, like I told Because I said,
Speaker 1: I gotta be able to compete with the timeline, Attention
Speaker 1: is worth worth more than anything, worth more than money.
Speaker 1: Attention is the new currency. So I said, what I
Speaker 1: gotta do is when I'm coming down this timeline they
Speaker 1: tend to span is short, so I gotta do something
Speaker 1: to grab your attention to make you stop. I ain't
Speaker 1: got no jury on, I got no big car. I
Speaker 1: know you know, I ain't no Buttoneggi girl on Instagram.
Speaker 1: So when I'm coming out of that timeline, I might
Speaker 1: be running across the highway, I might be jumping off
Speaker 1: the roof and might be laying on the ground with
Speaker 1: catch up on my head telling you don't wait, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna stop you to give
Speaker 1: you this message. And that's all it was about. Because
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to be cool. When ain't nobody want to
Speaker 1: tell these these kids in the in the cities like
Speaker 1: that ship ain't cool. Ain't nothing cool about going to jail?
Speaker 1: It's cool to have a job, it's cool to be smart. Like,
Speaker 1: it's really cool to be smart because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, we grew up in the ghetto.
Speaker 1: Everybody was laughing at the dude sneaks was messed up
Speaker 1: walking to school holds and his pan didn't have it all.
Speaker 1: But right now, right now, there's revenge of the nerds.
Speaker 1: Look at me. Now, it's revenge of the nerds. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The nerds run everything. Everybody that we thought,
Speaker 1: everything that people think the Nerds wasn't cool. But they
Speaker 1: run technology. They won Facebook, they want testing that everything
Speaker 1: that we worship and we subscribed to they run that.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you gotta tell these young kids in
Speaker 1: the city, like, yo, man, that cool net list ship,
Speaker 1: that ship is momentary. You better focus on being smart.
Speaker 1: Think is running this ship out there. And if you
Speaker 1: could think, you know what I mean, You're gonna run
Speaker 1: the game out here. And that's what it's about. Let's
Speaker 1: talking about major figgers, talking about the group. How you
Speaker 1: got with the group. I started the group, Um, Grandma House.
Speaker 1: He didn't listen. You know, it was crazy. He didn't
Speaker 1: even want to, Like, he didn't even know how hot
Speaker 1: he was. I was like the manager of the hype
Speaker 1: man today. I'm like, listen, cause you're sounding some paper.
Speaker 1: I came up with the name and a Dandy Basement,
Speaker 1: so we were Grand Baseman and we because he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't. He just didn't want to rap. And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I played. I was in college. I played this time.
Speaker 1: I was nineteen, no earlier, I might have been seventeen
Speaker 1: something like that. And my whole thing was this, I'm
Speaker 1: going to him. I'm reading all the magazines. I'm deep
Speaker 1: into hip hop. I'm talking about more more West Coast
Speaker 1: hip Hop rap page more. So I already knew when
Speaker 1: Master People was coming about a Richmond and I used,
Speaker 1: told you, we gotta set this label up. We gotta
Speaker 1: do this. He's like, dude, like, I'm like that ayn't
Speaker 1: got in the card. It was like, cause, listen to
Speaker 1: this now, this is nine six. I had to warm
Speaker 1: up to this ship. Ninety five. This ship came on.
Speaker 1: I'm the first game to play. Sound like he's shipping
Speaker 1: night turning ship off. Man, don't cousin telling you this
Speaker 1: that ship first. Dude, Like, man, you like this rap
Speaker 1: ship too. But I didn't go up rap, and I
Speaker 1: grew up playing basketball. I need to add, what was
Speaker 1: the record store one? There? So tough? Me? I was
Speaker 1: a kid. I never seen the rap videos growing up.
Speaker 1: Did you feel what I'm saying? I never had cable,
Speaker 1: So for me, it was you go to school. You
Speaker 1: from school, you got basketball practice. After that, you might
Speaker 1: go home, drop your ship off. You're gonna play some
Speaker 1: more basketball. You and then you the street side of
Speaker 1: this ship. Yeah. Absolutely, you know. I was born for
Speaker 1: that's my government, you know what I mean? So I
Speaker 1: played it for for us. You know. It was like, ah,
Speaker 1: I wrote my I wrote my first rap in college,
Speaker 1: playing around, fucking around with one of my some of
Speaker 1: my homies who has flipment, and we just used to
Speaker 1: smoke some weed, wrap some ship, crazy falling, funk out, laughing,
Speaker 1: and then one day they was like, let's write something
Speaker 1: to come back and record it. And it just so happened.
Speaker 1: When we came back, I was the first one to record,
Speaker 1: and all the nigga was like, Yo, nigga, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I'm literally I'm like, now, ain't a fucking rapper man?
Speaker 1: I need is tripping man? That ship was hot. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, y'all tripping that talking about I'm not a
Speaker 1: little rapper. Then he heard the Bruce show. Because this
Speaker 1: nick was taking me every minute to my cousin. He
Speaker 1: only got one rap. He only got one rap. That
Speaker 1: what he needed. But he hot, you're not crazy, that
Speaker 1: ship said, he always sent the one it was listening.
Speaker 1: It was it was a wide. It was the one
Speaker 1: rap he didn't even know, but he thought he was
Speaker 1: just so good. So when I played Massive Pene, I'm
Speaker 1: like listen because what was the record store blowing every tree?
Speaker 1: Shout out of trek Wallace where he used to work at.
Speaker 1: What was the record store? I went continuous, Sure that
Speaker 1: was there was the other one, but it's on board.
Speaker 1: They had these bins and these bends. They had like
Speaker 1: tapes that was cheap. They was from all over though,
Speaker 1: So I used to grab a lot of West rapp
Speaker 1: before take so tr you. When I grabbed that, I said, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: And I heard Massive Peeple this when they had to
Speaker 1: draw a mob be through the hood and all that
Speaker 1: shout out to Master pe the first boy to play
Speaker 1: you in Philly. He was listening, I gotta get with
Speaker 1: Massive Pickle. I played, I'm like yo, this boy making
Speaker 1: his own money. He's independent, these bulls coming out, so
Speaker 1: he like, see, that's one thing I can give them. Though,
Speaker 1: like as a young like Wallow, all of us might
Speaker 1: we might have been seventeen eighteen, Willow might have been fifteen,
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't have thought while it was fifteen. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying, Like he was always tall. Then
Speaker 1: nigger got a tattoo on his neck. Fuck bitches take money.
Speaker 1: That's when niggas didn't even get tattoos like this said, right,
Speaker 1: it was just faded. You can see b TM. That's
Speaker 1: when I was young crazy. I was crazy, you understand.
Speaker 1: I was likeift so glad and you know we all
Speaker 1: we all young, but he the youngest, but he wanted
Speaker 1: the trollest. Then he got a tattoo. So you're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, he ain't. You know, you wouldn't even think
Speaker 1: he was fourteen. You wouldn't even think he was fifteen.
Speaker 1: You feel, take money? Yeah, that was my mindset. That's
Speaker 1: what we was on. Bro. I just wanted to ain't
Speaker 1: getting money and that's all you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it was like but that music ship, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: because I've seen something early like me. I always looked
Speaker 1: to I didn't look to I looked to rappers younger,
Speaker 1: but as I grew up, I looked at CEOs and
Speaker 1: I started understanding what was going on when you got Master,
Speaker 1: Little Jay, Sugar Knight, Tony Draper. I was worried about them, dude,
Speaker 1: because because when I've seen that was going on, I've
Speaker 1: seen you go to New York, You're gonna sign to
Speaker 1: some label. But these dudes are creating their own opportunities
Speaker 1: early in the game depend of Ship, so it was
Speaker 1: like it was like yo, you know, and then you know,
Speaker 1: then the babies and everybody else came and it was
Speaker 1: like so many other and so my own thing was
Speaker 1: like yo, cause this dude is that we're getting to
Speaker 1: the studio. I'm taking the studio. I got my man
Speaker 1: to the studio getting samples, and I said, come on,
Speaker 1: we got rap rap rap, like he said. Song I
Speaker 1: Ever Done was number one on the radio and Philly
Speaker 1: on the Countdown not e do power that the number
Speaker 1: two Destiny's Child. I was a local artist and my
Speaker 1: song was number one on the Countdown for weeks on
Speaker 1: top of weeks. And you gotta understand, I wasn't a rapper,
Speaker 1: so literally I went to the studio and at this
Speaker 1: time he didn't got locked up. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But now I'm starting to believe in this ship. Like
Speaker 1: whole week, everywhere I go, every time I rap, motherfucker's
Speaker 1: just losing his mind, going crazy. Like I only got
Speaker 1: bro I got signed. I probably had like fourteen raps. Man.
Speaker 1: It was a whole fucking bit war going on between
Speaker 1: all the record. The third song I ever did that
Speaker 1: that we put to the radio was called Love for Gilly.
Speaker 1: I want to the student. I went to the studio.
Speaker 1: I said what I'm gonna what I'm gonna rap about
Speaker 1: the nigga. Marcus Graham said, rap about what you got
Speaker 1: love for what you don't got love for? I'm a
Speaker 1: smart motherfucker's that was easy. Yeah, I can do that.
Speaker 1: Turn some beats on. Listen to some beats. I like
Speaker 1: this beat right here right wrote my ship. I was
Speaker 1: always a fast right. I always put that ship together fast.
Speaker 1: They don't even know what I'm about to come with.
Speaker 1: I go right in there. I got love for FuG
Speaker 1: niggas and FuG nuss never want to smoke, move poppers
Speaker 1: and dine sippers. Drug dealers, credit card counterfeitis, my niggas
Speaker 1: locked up and all of my broke niggas. I got
Speaker 1: love for wild parties and wide bodies, sweaters by money
Speaker 1: killers like John Gotti, bad women in short dresses, be huge, breastless,
Speaker 1: the bucky y'all wagon with the triple head, wrestless. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of time and shine your blind and Gilly
Speaker 1: got love for other niggas, baby moms and what if
Speaker 1: they nor lot Gilly was a crime and be no
Speaker 1: men left head, then y'all get the death chair in
Speaker 1: the top three. But I might be the best head
Speaker 1: little rugby to Berlins and my guess ill roll after that,
Speaker 1: you know the booth looking at that MoU like what
Speaker 1: half of that right now? Ye six nineties seven, you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So it was like, alright, okay.
Speaker 1: Once that ship hit the radio and he was calling
Speaker 1: requesting that ship now stop, and I just keep hearing
Speaker 1: number one love, I'm like, that's hardest fun. And you
Speaker 1: know what happened? What's so crazy? It's like the same
Speaker 1: way major major figures got started, in the same way
Speaker 1: me and I was with the game I started because
Speaker 1: I'm the dude that to sit back, me and Gil
Speaker 1: see one thing that's good about We listened to intermation. Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm the one that said, I'm the one that's excited
Speaker 1: about getting the logos done and all that said, shout
Speaker 1: out the nick Riche for creating man I was with
Speaker 1: the game logo. I'm like, I'm gonna get the logo Jo.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the Lloyd trademark. There can the count
Speaker 1: set up the LLC, go get the band. I'm not
Speaker 1: all guilt. I just need you to show up. He's
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm gonnadude, that's gonna handle the equipment. Alright,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set up anything. Listen, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: call with attorney. We gotta go to the banks. You
Speaker 1: gotta do this. I'm not dude what you said. We
Speaker 1: even gotta be in the room. I ain't gotta be
Speaker 1: in the room when I'm in the room. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: because I called him and I said, Yo, I'm driving
Speaker 1: from Baltimore. I mean, and when I'm driving, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I said, listen, I'm gonna say you this
Speaker 1: sort to read this. Spotify Allocate four and the millions
Speaker 1: with spots some ship like that. I said, that was
Speaker 1: like in April. That was in April, just that year.
Speaker 1: They only probably put four in a million out for
Speaker 1: I said, yo, we're missing out on the like. He said,
Speaker 1: all right, come on, let's get it. I said, all right,
Speaker 1: bet I called me back. I called him back. I
Speaker 1: called Gil back leader on that day. This was like
Speaker 1: eight in the morning. I'm talking to him. Driving from Baltimore.
Speaker 1: About one o'clock, I called him. I said, signed that
Speaker 1: docum sign. I had the LLC, I had a trademark
Speaker 1: going in. I had all this stuff. The stuff was
Speaker 1: basically already done. I had every think the logo. I
Speaker 1: locked down the YouTube, I locked down the Twitter, I
Speaker 1: locked down the Instagram. I'm talking about all the hours.
Speaker 1: I said, there anything now that is that simple. I
Speaker 1: locked anything now, you know, I mean we know our roles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know our roles. You feel what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: know our roles when it when it when it comes. See,
Speaker 1: that's why he's working like that, because he knew he
Speaker 1: know Gil Gil don't want to do this ship. He's
Speaker 1: been doing this, enjoy doing so long. He don't even
Speaker 1: want to do love doing this ship. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: handle that ship. I love it, so you don't even
Speaker 1: gotta be bothered. But Gil also been in a ship
Speaker 1: load of rooms, handling a ship load of business. So
Speaker 1: the experience from either way is you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And one thing about him, he's a researcher. You could
Speaker 1: you can mention somebody right now with as you talking,
Speaker 1: He'll be googling. M Yeah, because I listened to people.
Speaker 1: And if I don't know, I don't know. That's what's
Speaker 1: so good about him. Here tell me ship. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I tell him, she don't know. We just listen, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, one thing about him in the history
Speaker 1: of life, I'm talking about the human existence. He like
Speaker 1: in the top He might be in the top fifteen
Speaker 1: and seventeen dickheads in the history of life. But when
Speaker 1: I tell him something here listen, that's what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, this dude has been a dickhead forever you
Speaker 1: notice do you see them Instagram? But here listen. He'd
Speaker 1: like damn, because you're right, I didn't lovable dickhead. You're
Speaker 1: still a dickhead, though, So I'm talking to extraordinary histories.
Speaker 1: You gotta understand, all right, that's what That's what great.
Speaker 1: Everybody that's in our space that's loved, it's a dickhead.
Speaker 1: Charlemagne's a dickhead. Wendy Williams is a dickhead. Um um,
Speaker 1: these two are dickheads. When we talk about Howard Sterns
Speaker 1: the ultimate dickhead, like, what do we talk that's what
Speaker 1: it takes to be loved in this space. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta not give a funk what number you think
Speaker 1: I will be out of the top hunter. People don't
Speaker 1: really look at you like that. But you know me,
Speaker 1: I know the truth you truth me, be, truth me,
Speaker 1: be on the dickhead scale. Oh you don't know. You
Speaker 1: don't A little came from jail just to think this
Speaker 1: is thing. This is why you say this because I'm
Speaker 1: the dude like I'm not playing the games. Somebody do
Speaker 1: some dumb ship be cutting them off gither like he
Speaker 1: doesn't hit Like, what's so bad? Is right? I get
Speaker 1: all the flash, but I'm really the nice one, know
Speaker 1: the fucking bro. Soon as somebody do something wrong, You're like,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be problematic, fire him right now. I'm like no, no,
Speaker 1: like nod up being right though, but try ni but
Speaker 1: up the three straight bull three. He always go to three.
Speaker 1: I'm like I told you, I want to be even
Speaker 1: sleep good at night, so I'm gonna give you more
Speaker 1: through times the funk up and every time you funk up,
Speaker 1: we're gonna sit down. We're going at this, bro, Why
Speaker 1: would you do that? And I'm like him, he won't.
Speaker 1: He just saying that in he says, I'm the super
Speaker 1: Bowl was the one, but did we get out of there?
Speaker 1: So in everybody in mind? Why looks cool? Why don't
Speaker 1: even see that? And he just said, Gilly is the
Speaker 1: one that's getting the second time, why would you do that?
Speaker 1: You know we don't. Why would you the third time? Listen,
Speaker 1: I got nine ship the whole time. He never said
Speaker 1: nothing of the neating, but behind closed doors he gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm the dickhead superviolsable to come through. You've been in
Speaker 1: the break room three or four extra minutest next time,
Speaker 1: next time, next time, my man. Listen, man, you right
Speaker 1: there talking to the girl. May just go home for
Speaker 1: the day, don't about I've seen you next week, next
Speaker 1: I see you next week, last time, next time? It
Speaker 1: would be ye him, I mean, he'd be lying I
Speaker 1: am about you. You find out you got this unique
Speaker 1: ability to to to to make people move. You end
Speaker 1: up going with cash money, but it never really materializes.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, when I heard about you first,
Speaker 1: because I'm straight West Coast, so when I first heard
Speaker 1: about you, it was it was you know, writing for
Speaker 1: Wayne allegedly or it was alleged at the time, and
Speaker 1: whatever happened with all that. In the cash money situation,
Speaker 1: I mean, I want the cash money, you know. I
Speaker 1: met them backstage. Shout out to them because they gave
Speaker 1: me an opportunity because I I was supposed to perform
Speaker 1: a Powerhouse. I went through some issues with some other
Speaker 1: record labels. I got tooken off Powerhouse. Cash Money found
Speaker 1: out about it. They didn't think that ship was cool.
Speaker 1: They let me perform, you know, rock that ship or
Speaker 1: you know, Stunned told me, you know, get out your
Speaker 1: situation with Tony Draper because at the time I was
Speaker 1: signed with schwave House. You know, he said like, I
Speaker 1: got to ask for you, you know, to come on over.
Speaker 1: The cash Money said, you know it is real. You
Speaker 1: act you get killed, playboy. This is the deal. I
Speaker 1: want the dome, the bricks, the keys to the wh
Speaker 1: Come on that that ship. Come on, man's not little
Speaker 1: mill of me boys man with tripping, don't know nothing
Speaker 1: about that. But so you know, I'm rapping my basketball
Speaker 1: player when I when I when I you know, I
Speaker 1: called Drake and shout out to draper Man because that's
Speaker 1: my brother for life man to this day. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked a few times, you know, the really ceo
Speaker 1: man I ever met my life man shut up, shout
Speaker 1: out the Drake Man. But he was like, yeah, Gilly,
Speaker 1: you know if you want to go over there and
Speaker 1: let me roll out over there. And you know, it
Speaker 1: was it was an experience, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I wasn't willing to sell my publisher, so I never
Speaker 1: had album come on, you know, but that was God
Speaker 1: get me to this point, right And you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's crazy how our life worked because you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of time, the same people that was was kind
Speaker 1: of you know, holding you back back then, trying to
Speaker 1: make sure you don't you know, maybe the same people
Speaker 1: that be doubling back as you know, and then and
Speaker 1: I don't even hold it again to him. I'm like,
Speaker 1: come gonna sit down on the couch me and you know,
Speaker 1: you've got some cowboy ship going on. But I ain't
Speaker 1: mad at you because you can't blackball god. Nig You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. So it's amazing how y'all soon
Speaker 1: a katrillion records. But I'm hotter than you niggas right now.
Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? How does that work? I don't make mistakes?
Speaker 1: How does that work? Allows the besttball players feel? So
Speaker 1: I just look at it as though, No, God didn't
Speaker 1: give me that money right now at that time. He
Speaker 1: didn't give me the what I was supposed to get
Speaker 1: at that time because I was you probably wouldn't enjoy it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna enjoy it. I wasn't ready. I would have
Speaker 1: been in prison or something. I'd have been running around
Speaker 1: here in super duper creamy out of gets room. So
Speaker 1: now I feel like I get my jest do now.
Speaker 1: It took a little later in life, but you just
Speaker 1: keep working and you keep putting that staying consistent, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna get was meant for you. Standing don't want
Speaker 1: money from shut up man. You know, I'm just trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to labor. We were talking about so you
Speaker 1: was he was on Breakfast Club and had an opportunity
Speaker 1: for a group to work with j Rockefeller didn't end
Speaker 1: up working out. You said that was might have been
Speaker 1: a little small rift there. What happened that situation? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean we just didn't sign you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: They put together a deal so explained. You know, we
Speaker 1: were supposed to sign with Initially, we were supposed to
Speaker 1: sign with Rockefeller as a group. You know one thing
Speaker 1: about me, Yes, always had my business in line. So
Speaker 1: I had a solo deal with Suave House, Tony drakeon
Speaker 1: it in my contract. That had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: my group ship taking my group somewhere else. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was initially supposed to be with
Speaker 1: over over at the Rock, But you know the paperwork
Speaker 1: issues when the paperwork come back is you know, they
Speaker 1: don't say what it's supposed to say in our eyes
Speaker 1: and maybe in their eyes it said what it was
Speaker 1: supposed to saying. In my eyes, it didn't say what
Speaker 1: it was supposed to say. So we just turned the
Speaker 1: situation down and that actually opened the doors up for
Speaker 1: state property. Okay, okay, it makes sense. Thoughts on the Dreking,
Speaker 1: Kanye squashing or man for me man. For me, you know,
Speaker 1: when two guys like that is beef and for me,
Speaker 1: it just don't make no sense because it's like y'all
Speaker 1: too and the richest niggers on the planet. But then,
Speaker 1: what's the problem, what what what's the issues? I'm confused.
Speaker 1: I was chick, I want to say, he said, I'm
Speaker 1: that's what. That's what, that's what the day it is like, Bro,
Speaker 1: we're successful, we win and life is in our favorite
Speaker 1: What the fund are we mad at? What do we
Speaker 1: beefing for? What is My house is probably a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifteen thousand square fucking feet. What the fucking am
Speaker 1: I mad about? That? Sound like a prison? That's a prison. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's how big nigga's houses. You start sweating when we
Speaker 1: walked into it. When we drove into the baby, Crist's
Speaker 1: longest privacy, he had prison walls. Yeah, you can start sweating.
Speaker 1: We're going into a nigger house. He starts sweating. You
Speaker 1: got you got balls? Like a prison? Twenty X fuck
Speaker 1: him up himself. It's crazy, y'all. Like an end right now? Me,
Speaker 1: Who's who got the best record? The Warriors? I'm talking again,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm just you know, for me. I'm a
Speaker 1: Sixer fan, but I think Steph Curry taking the MVP
Speaker 1: t s he is bacon he bacon ship. Do you
Speaker 1: think that not to cat you off? Jack? Do you
Speaker 1: think that Ben Simmons can be uh, the branch can
Speaker 1: be you gotta go. I think Ben Simmons is an
Speaker 1: extreme disappointment. Man. You know when you say when you
Speaker 1: say you would rather go to mental protocol then step
Speaker 1: on the fucking court and play basketball what you've been
Speaker 1: doing your whole life. Let's just keep it real. You're
Speaker 1: scared to step on that fucking floor in front of
Speaker 1: them Philadelphia Sixer fans and nigga. That's what it's about.
Speaker 1: He's been because if we would have shipped your ass
Speaker 1: to Sacramento, guess what you would have been doing playing
Speaker 1: nicka m h. You that scared to step on that
Speaker 1: Philadelphia seventies sixers hardwood floor, that you would say, bron
Speaker 1: Send need a mental fucking protocol. He'd been handicapped from
Speaker 1: the jump, bro because the coach he had is somebody
Speaker 1: that knew him as a teenager as a kid. So
Speaker 1: when he got there, they just let him be him.
Speaker 1: They never they never forced him to work on this
Speaker 1: game or a jump shot. So now he's at the
Speaker 1: point now where it's been talked about a couple of years,
Speaker 1: but now as at the point where everybody seeing and
Speaker 1: then you see it's affecting the ability of the team
Speaker 1: to be successful, right, So not allow Okay, either you're
Speaker 1: gonna shoot or we gotta get rid of you. But
Speaker 1: they shouldn't done that when he first got there. Bro,
Speaker 1: you's know what I'm saying. But for me, it's not
Speaker 1: even the fact of shooting a jump shot. It's the
Speaker 1: fact of always being on attack. At six ten, one
Speaker 1: of the most athletic, one of the most fastest people
Speaker 1: in the league, you got the ball, being on an
Speaker 1: attack and being aggressive. You feel what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: don't have nonhing, But you can't be a point guarding
Speaker 1: on that team with the dominant big man and not
Speaker 1: be able to shoot. That's what that affects your offense.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Cause when it swing swinging you,
Speaker 1: you're not you're out on the block and they swing
Speaker 1: swings you in the corner and you're gonna shoot it.
Speaker 1: What's the point of the dumbling n B. But but
Speaker 1: I also knew that when Joel and b and Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons played together. It ain't another two teammates in the
Speaker 1: league that is one is remotely as many games as there.
Speaker 1: They got the highest WHI percentage out of any two
Speaker 1: players when they played together in the n b A
Speaker 1: I'm a status this year at a great six of
Speaker 1: fans two they won the most games out of in
Speaker 1: the next and the next duo is thirty something games
Speaker 1: behind them, step and who might have to fact check that, yes, please,
Speaker 1: because step Clay won a lot of games, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like they had they had a
Speaker 1: real chance. I think when they had surrounded those two
Speaker 1: with a bunch of shooters, that's all you need. But
Speaker 1: slowly but sure they got rid of these shooters and
Speaker 1: that exposed Ben in the vility. And then Bro, you cannot, like,
Speaker 1: how can you not take a shot? Your second best
Speaker 1: player on our team? You don't take a shot in
Speaker 1: four playoff games in the fourth quarter. You got who
Speaker 1: for every game you never took a shot in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Bro, to the point where we gave you
Speaker 1: the ball under the basket, you got a dunke and
Speaker 1: you pass it to somebody, but you're not holding yourself accountable.
Speaker 1: You're not saying, you know what, I fucked up. Let
Speaker 1: me hit the gym, let me get better, Let me
Speaker 1: get mentally stronger and physically stronger. We've seen Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: lose to the Pistons year after year after year. They
Speaker 1: fuck Jordan's up, and Jordan said, you know what, let's
Speaker 1: get the team to come. We gotta get stronger, we
Speaker 1: gotta hit this fucking weight room we got and then
Speaker 1: they came back in one. I feel like this new
Speaker 1: generation and these niggas got too much control. Man for
Speaker 1: real Niggas, Oh, I don't want to be here no more.
Speaker 1: I wanna Man Niggas was just happy to be in
Speaker 1: the league and be making some money and playing basketball.
Speaker 1: Man for real, Man Man Niggas, Niggas is like, it's
Speaker 1: it's almost like you use the competition, you use the fierceness.
Speaker 1: You lose all of that because everybody honies, everybody friends,
Speaker 1: everybody's cool, everybody's no rivalries. Really, No nigga Bird ain't
Speaker 1: like Dot. Niggas didn't like Bird, Isaiah Thomas, and niggas
Speaker 1: didn't like Boston Celtics. We got real basketball. These things
Speaker 1: gonna they'd be out there and they'd be team means
Speaker 1: they out there, I mean they'd be on the opposite team.
Speaker 1: They got the other team. It's a different Generationia Thomas said, Man,
Speaker 1: me and Magic's best friends. Man, they threw the balling year.
Speaker 1: I want to full lampy body slam me. Yeah. Friends,
Speaker 1: that's how we was friends off the court, but on
Speaker 1: the court this war. So for me, it's just like
Speaker 1: like you got a guy who it's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: him physically when he was ten years old, you didn't
Speaker 1: have no mental problems playing basketball. To me, I thought
Speaker 1: basketball was our safe haven. When I thought basketball was
Speaker 1: when we're going through all the crazy ship that life
Speaker 1: bring to you. When you step on this court for
Speaker 1: this three hours, nothing else matters. So that's what I
Speaker 1: thought basketball was. I didn't even know basketball could give
Speaker 1: you some fucking mental problems. I thought that was some
Speaker 1: life ship. I didn't know that. Oh I ain't been
Speaker 1: hitting my foul shot, so I'm mentally fucked up now.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that could happen. Because this is
Speaker 1: a game, bro, this is something we played since we
Speaker 1: was kids, that we fell in love with. That if
Speaker 1: you had a bad game, if you were. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure you've been in the league. I'm pretty sure your
Speaker 1: had stretches when y'all had five six bad games? Did
Speaker 1: you ever say I need help now? So you understand
Speaker 1: about why go to the State? Is my team right now?
Speaker 1: I've been there since Latrellague. But I would say this too,
Speaker 1: shout out to Ben Simmons. I like the game player,
Speaker 1: I like this game all that. I'm a sports analyst,
Speaker 1: right and I analyzed body language. Listen, then I know
Speaker 1: it ain't you. God River stopped that dumb ship. I
Speaker 1: believe it's doctor. I don't think it's him. I don't
Speaker 1: care what nobody's saying. There's some sho ship going on.
Speaker 1: I've seen him look at me one time, and the
Speaker 1: look was not nice. It was nasty. Look. I just
Speaker 1: that's what I believe. You know how long I've been
Speaker 1: in the league. Listen, I don't care about how long
Speaker 1: you've been in the league. I don't you know. That's
Speaker 1: why you're just gonna put that. Do you know how
Speaker 1: long leave that young bow along? He messed his game up.
Speaker 1: Doc Doc Brent Brown, the coach was there, got there,
Speaker 1: got bullying that bull That's why I got mental issues,
Speaker 1: doctor mess his mind. Really, doctor, the best thing that
Speaker 1: happened to him. Really, listen, Doc was on that Pistons
Speaker 1: team you're talking about. Doc is a tough dude. He
Speaker 1: was not. You got the SA You got Doc Rubbers
Speaker 1: over there. That's what he needs on the Celtic, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's what he needs coaching. You're
Speaker 1: talking about coaching right now. But he got sound Cell
Speaker 1: over the winning Doc Brothers and south to Cell. They
Speaker 1: can really help this kid. Bro, That's two of the
Speaker 1: best people you can have on your For me, man,
Speaker 1: I just look at it as a cop out, man,
Speaker 1: and anybody that's saying send me to a ship, tend
Speaker 1: me to the worst team in the league. I don't
Speaker 1: want to leave with this championship team right here. That's
Speaker 1: just a fun up sixty ain't new championship team. Ain't
Speaker 1: got that's just a messed up and championship team. And
Speaker 1: was playing we only even win't getting paid when we
Speaker 1: want That's what he was meaning for. Oh, Bro, you
Speaker 1: mean to tell me, Bro, I'm gone. You mean to
Speaker 1: tell me, Bro, you getting paid thirty two million dollars
Speaker 1: to play basketball and you mentally fucked up because they're
Speaker 1: taking some of his money right from not getting on
Speaker 1: the court. He shouldn't be taking some of this that
Speaker 1: you gave us the hot take earlier about I think
Speaker 1: Steph's taking the m v P. I can't ask him
Speaker 1: this question because he's gonna who You feel like it's
Speaker 1: gonna un the championship this year. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to beat Golden State. I feel like
Speaker 1: when they get the kid wise men back because he's
Speaker 1: a defensive he's a he's a rin protector, and he
Speaker 1: can finish a little bit, and he got a little
Speaker 1: fifteen and seventeen footed that he can can knock down.
Speaker 1: I feel like the boy's gonna be up. They already
Speaker 1: running the ship. Imagine when they get clean cleanland man.
Speaker 1: Let's be for real, man clean like a lion sitting
Speaker 1: there looking at goddamn seventeen, will the beast walk up
Speaker 1: on I'm saying he can't wait to get and they playing.
Speaker 1: If they come back, they're gonna be on one. And
Speaker 1: we already knew he's gonna come back because he one
Speaker 1: of them kids. He put the work in and he
Speaker 1: feel disrespected to he didn't at the top sevent He
Speaker 1: feel disrespected, and I feel do he Probably he's the
Speaker 1: second greedest shoot of all time in my opinion, no question.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. So I feel like if
Speaker 1: you second to do anything in the league, don't you
Speaker 1: should probably be in the the fucking top seventy five.
Speaker 1: And you got championships as well, and you big reason
Speaker 1: why y'all won the championships. You should have been m
Speaker 1: VPN any one of them champions. Absolutely. So for me,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't see nobody beating Golden State. What
Speaker 1: about y'all? I like going to State. I'll go to
Speaker 1: State nets in the finals. Kyrie there going nets as
Speaker 1: through boxing Blue Tennessee. I CVS boy, stay boy, you
Speaker 1: got a cool boy. Fighting was going down Philly Unification.
Speaker 1: Brandon Figure Rollers, Yeah, we was there. He was killed it.
Speaker 1: I was gonna tape kid was killing Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I think. Um, I think, man, we just need the
Speaker 1: best fighting the best, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I think the these young kids, man is on a
Speaker 1: different different level. Man the ground boots and it's the
Speaker 1: Devin Haines, the till Febo Lopez the Shaker. Steven says
Speaker 1: that Chris cool boy, I mean the cool boys stuff
Speaker 1: that Chris Kober's man. These kids is fifteen fights in man,
Speaker 1: winning belts man. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: fighting veterans already dodging Boots all there because Boots hit
Speaker 1: too hard. Man, Boots to first way, the biggest wealth
Speaker 1: the way, the bigger than everybody. Errold's made bigger than
Speaker 1: all of them. Then he's different. He's different man. Boots
Speaker 1: always been different man. But Boots dad is different. Boots
Speaker 1: Dad right now with sixty six years old, get in
Speaker 1: the ring and sparred his fighters and put hands on him. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's different right now. So you know, Boots reminds me
Speaker 1: of Floyd because he was born in a boxing tip,
Speaker 1: his pop box. His two brothers was professionals. His two
Speaker 1: brothers was the ship. You feel what I'm saying. They
Speaker 1: just succumbed to the hood ship when you get nineteen
Speaker 1: and no you popping you. Yeah, but this his brothers
Speaker 1: was the ship. You feel what I'm saying. Don't want
Speaker 1: to saying everything they did wrong. He was the one
Speaker 1: that was right there at all the fights. He liked
Speaker 1: this four years Ludi in the gym five years Ludi
Speaker 1: and the gym. Then he got a nephew right now
Speaker 1: who like he liked four years old. If you look
Speaker 1: at him, I just told Boots in the gym, he's
Speaker 1: the only person that's gonna be better than you. He
Speaker 1: four years old. He already in the gym thing combinations.
Speaker 1: They got him sparring six years older. Like, so it's
Speaker 1: like that's the family bro that kid. Don't smoke, don't drink,
Speaker 1: don't go wow, don't do ship will go to the
Speaker 1: gym and home. That's it. Question thoughts on that, because
Speaker 1: I know there's athletes in similar situations. It's just their
Speaker 1: life mission. We were fortunate enough to make it, but
Speaker 1: we enjoyed the process. Not saying these people are not
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy. But you just mentioned like the kind of
Speaker 1: regiment he's on. What do you think about that? I mean,
Speaker 1: some people are just straight, straight, working don't enjoy the
Speaker 1: pleasures of it. Some people can work and enjoy the pleasures.
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts? I feel like when you when you
Speaker 1: when you in sports, when you you know, like y'all,
Speaker 1: I feel like, man, the most important thing man is
Speaker 1: is to to get your money. Man. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like Boots right now, you know, or
Speaker 1: any boxer right now. You're young. You hope you got
Speaker 1: the talent. God bless you with that talent. Now it's
Speaker 1: up to you to put the hard work in and
Speaker 1: finish the jabballs. This is what we're talking about. This
Speaker 1: is a thirteen fourteen year thing. That's when it's over.
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna missed the ship for the rest of
Speaker 1: your life because everybody missed the de warded crowd, everybody
Speaker 1: missed the six eight from the university. Yeah, y'all miss
Speaker 1: that ship. We all missing a little bit. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, but but I always tell him,
Speaker 1: it's these next ten twelve years the most important years
Speaker 1: of your life. You do these right said from you
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. If you want to
Speaker 1: have four chicks and Mexico phon when you're dick in
Speaker 1: the Russian headlock, he could do that. If you want
Speaker 1: to run around here like he was a married many train.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, if you want to run around
Speaker 1: her like Floyd Mayweather with twenty two women walking into
Speaker 1: all your invention, you could do that. Because you work.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that. But you first got to
Speaker 1: achieve your goals to be able to live. So you
Speaker 1: gotta do what you don't want to do now to
Speaker 1: do what you want to do later. Feel me looking
Speaker 1: back from you guys. First episode that aired in April nineteen,
Speaker 1: Are you guys happy with what you've accomplished in the
Speaker 1: progress you continue to make. I'm just I'm just happy
Speaker 1: with barstool Man, Barto Man, the best partners we could
Speaker 1: have ever possibly got with, because one thing I liked
Speaker 1: about them is they know how to measure tomorrow. A
Speaker 1: lot of people look at you right now and uh,
Speaker 1: when they look at you right now and they're basic,
Speaker 1: Oh as you as you as you at the top
Speaker 1: right now, and they can't see tomorrow. A lot of
Speaker 1: these companies, a lot of people they don't have the
Speaker 1: vision and understand this technology and understand group and say, okay,
Speaker 1: they right here now, imagine what they're gonna be five
Speaker 1: years from now. Imagice. A lot of people just say, oh,
Speaker 1: they're not hot this day. They're hot, they're warm, but
Speaker 1: we we don't have the resources to make that, you know,
Speaker 1: to give them they haven more ammunition to amplify them more. Uh,
Speaker 1: And they did. They understood. They got with us, We
Speaker 1: talked to him, we sat down. I think we had
Speaker 1: one million uh Monday when we went to the office.
Speaker 1: Then then David erica E money came down to us
Speaker 1: and we got it done. It wasn't it wasn't no bullshit.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not meeting to meet. We're not doing
Speaker 1: all these meetings. When you got the numbers, are you're
Speaker 1: doing it. We'll be talking about Jerry McGuire showing me
Speaker 1: the money power of social media and how vital it
Speaker 1: is today. And like you said from the beginning, I
Speaker 1: mean getting your ship off. Now, you gotta get like
Speaker 1: like one thing about social media it makes the world
Speaker 1: small because everybody is connected. But it's also as a
Speaker 1: tool that you can utilize to get your message. I
Speaker 1: don't care if you're selling rocks. I don't care if
Speaker 1: you're selling rice. I don't care if you you're just talking.
Speaker 1: It's a place where is though. It can amplify anything
Speaker 1: you got if you're willing to put the work in
Speaker 1: the build. It's yeah, it's basically your own thing and
Speaker 1: it's about building now. It's about you're going to be
Speaker 1: discipline enough to build whatever you're going it's gonna you
Speaker 1: gotta service these people every day. You gotta service your
Speaker 1: audience and understand that you work for your audience. The
Speaker 1: audience don't work for you. And once you understand that,
Speaker 1: you you got to build your audience and overserve some time.
Speaker 1: Because we're living in the world where's though one minute
Speaker 1: on social can change your life forever one day and
Speaker 1: because that minute could turn into a day, and that
Speaker 1: day could turn into and they can take But a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't have nothing to land on. You
Speaker 1: know how. You have people that we hear about they
Speaker 1: didn't they wasn't putting the work. They just stumbled across
Speaker 1: that moment. So by you not putting the work, when
Speaker 1: they go, the people don't hand them to the double
Speaker 1: back of land on because you don't have nobody or
Speaker 1: work there. So you got two types of people. Got
Speaker 1: the people that go and they stay because they got
Speaker 1: something to go back to. They're gonna go back to YouTube.
Speaker 1: Oh this guy they've been doing this. Then some people
Speaker 1: they go they got a moment and a little hot
Speaker 1: people burn them out and then it's over. So you
Speaker 1: gotta be able to build something and you gotta super
Speaker 1: serve your audience you gotta take care of because our
Speaker 1: attention span is like this. They can forget about you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: If you don't come tomorrow, they're gonna forget about you.
Speaker 1: You gotta come every day. On social you gotta bring
Speaker 1: that fire whatever you got going on, and it's gonna help.
Speaker 1: You know. Social media, it builds you when you when
Speaker 1: you work on it, it grows you. It's also ego crush,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Crushes acrushes millions of people's
Speaker 1: egos every day because people are out here measuring their
Speaker 1: life man to other. Motherfucker's on in awful illusions. This
Speaker 1: ship is magical too. It's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: illusions that they're using. You will sit there and watch
Speaker 1: Instagram and use a a lot of these relationships, a
Speaker 1: lot of the success as productions. You will watching production
Speaker 1: on Instagram and you will measure your life with what
Speaker 1: you're doing and not doing. Yo. You're watching the movie,
Speaker 1: You're watching the production like they produced that. It took
Speaker 1: time to get that here on. It took time to
Speaker 1: they're going bar that car. It took time to take
Speaker 1: the pictures in that hotel or that airbnbat. It's a
Speaker 1: time it's a time to the photograph, to get the
Speaker 1: pictures and edit them and send them back. People do
Speaker 1: photo shoots just Instagram. Absolutely some time going to And
Speaker 1: that's like you was getting off the jet, like it
Speaker 1: took time for that after you landing the Southwest. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a time for that. Shout out Southwest, fly Southwest
Speaker 1: a lot. So at the end of the day, Southwest,
Speaker 1: plug him up, him up, show me love. Oh, we
Speaker 1: got deals right there. I'm gonna negotiate that. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's what it's about, partnership, know people, to
Speaker 1: know people, to know people. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: that you'll be looking at the produce highly Hollywood like
Speaker 1: produce illusion and you would say, oh, I'm not living
Speaker 1: I'm not doing enough like me. Oh God, please you
Speaker 1: you talk. Don't stop taking that ship to God, to
Speaker 1: stop talking to God about these illusions down here. You
Speaker 1: keep talking to guy. Leave God the funking you you're
Speaker 1: talking to guy like you're back to this. I gotta
Speaker 1: take care to blind, I gotta take care of homeless.
Speaker 1: I gotta take it a little back. You back. Didn't
Speaker 1: I tell you about this last week? You're back asked
Speaker 1: me about some worldly things that I already put. God
Speaker 1: put anything on the planning for you, all the twols.
Speaker 1: You need people the connect with it. But leaving it
Speaker 1: was alone because he gotta take here to the babies.
Speaker 1: He gotta take here the elderly, gotta take care the
Speaker 1: mentally ill. But you keep hinling and be like, oh
Speaker 1: you're back again. Did I tell you? You keep hidling
Speaker 1: about you keep finding about you when the Lamborghini people
Speaker 1: try gonna pray to God for all these worldly things
Speaker 1: I wanted. I wanted channel bad. Come on, man, not
Speaker 1: people they're you know, they're they're worse likes and comments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a sass and destroying relationships. It's destroying relationships. And
Speaker 1: like it's destroying relations because anything is a measurement. Oh oh,
Speaker 1: you know you know Jack but his girl the lamborghine
Speaker 1: or Jack? Oh, now you've got women that How are
Speaker 1: you trying to press the dude to get the Lamborghinia?
Speaker 1: You're read the nurse Shorty and Do is a mail man,
Speaker 1: but you're putting pressure? Are you sending them that stuff?
Speaker 1: At work? He's like, how I post? How you posed
Speaker 1: to take that? You send a picture? Uh? College sense
Speaker 1: to buying money back between that anchors and sending that
Speaker 1: to huh, why why why you? Why? Why you gotta
Speaker 1: do that? Why all that? It's a different situation then,
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm just I can't speak for anybody,
Speaker 1: but I just speak for the brothers, and it's like
Speaker 1: we're living in the world now where for so long
Speaker 1: the system was they had a marketing campaign against us
Speaker 1: saying we wasn't ship. Then the media had a marketing
Speaker 1: campaign saying it was a ship. Now the black women
Speaker 1: saying waiting ship. So it's like, what the funk? Thanks
Speaker 1: some especially social media, it's like out there, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't a ship. That's what makes the world go
Speaker 1: right around. But it's like, man, a situation now where
Speaker 1: it's you're in a situation now where's doing is taking
Speaker 1: up beating out here? Especially on social media that ain't
Speaker 1: just had some bunch anybody hitting anybody hurt? Oh it's
Speaker 1: crazy ship. Yeah yeah, I think I think the dig
Speaker 1: is bad at her right now. Quick hitters, Quick hitters.
Speaker 1: First thing to kind of up, y'all can work together
Speaker 1: on these top five rappers in the game right now.
Speaker 1: You gotta problem to have them all on y'all show
Speaker 1: Top five rappers in the game right now. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have one of my favorites on y'all showed you recently.
Speaker 1: Who is in your opinion? Oh with my opinion, in
Speaker 1: your opinion? The Baby, the Baby, fuck so little Dirk,
Speaker 1: Little Dirk, Jada kiss He's hot. That's my golly bag
Speaker 1: Yo on one money bag Yo, s T h R.
Speaker 1: How you ain't gonna miss Yeah, you can give your
Speaker 1: list next. Um disrespect man. I'll be representing the young
Speaker 1: now run around listening to the young Niggers. Man, s T.
Speaker 1: That's my dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't get break.
Speaker 1: Came and stay in my house for two days. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing we heard for two I don't know
Speaker 1: who he was. I could see all the songs. Now
Speaker 1: I look back, my list could be Uh. Of course
Speaker 1: you went through dreasy drink. Shout out because I still
Speaker 1: be listening. Shout out to Shout out to your family.
Speaker 1: Ainybody back. It came Cree and Memphis. Shout out to y'all. Um,
Speaker 1: you got that's crazy because I'll be listening to all
Speaker 1: the types of stuff like the Baby. I've been listening
Speaker 1: to that new draw. Uh what else I've been listening
Speaker 1: to new I'll been listening to said right now, right now? Okay,
Speaker 1: I like you know, I don't wick I like your song?
Speaker 1: Oh always uh one, I got like the same list, yes, CG.
Speaker 1: But but I listen. I listen to you, you know,
Speaker 1: I listen to Drenk. I listen to all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So I can't just get fired. But I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: be able to get fired. There's too many each of
Speaker 1: your dream interviews past the present, the dream person to
Speaker 1: happen on your show, and Michael Jordan's you dinel wow
Speaker 1: do yeh. It's more for you build your own starting
Speaker 1: five of current NBA players to go head up against
Speaker 1: each other. Oh no, so both of you guys, you're
Speaker 1: starting fives to play. You guys are the coaches. Oh
Speaker 1: I got you, I can kill you. Oh I got
Speaker 1: steps at the point, right, I got all right? Who's
Speaker 1: your point? We'll go back and forth, so you don't
Speaker 1: what's my man? Damon little? Okay, Okay, who's your two?
Speaker 1: My two would have to be I'm gonna go. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with it, go to stay back court. I'm
Speaker 1: like shooting, I'm picking old. Let me get what let
Speaker 1: me get? Uh I need uh durant, you don't even
Speaker 1: know what I'm not. I'm just picking my time were
Speaker 1: now we're going back and forth. Who see back when
Speaker 1: I played, it wasn't no twos and ones. I'm listen
Speaker 1: said definitely when it was father, ain't no no understand
Speaker 1: you're talking about this, ain't no DJ and I'm that
Speaker 1: you got you got, I got my man and I
Speaker 1: got damn it little, I'm gonta stand the sext. You
Speaker 1: got my three, I'm putting um, you got two shooters already.
Speaker 1: Well know I'm going defense for Connick please as well.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm going to three. I'm going. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: going Luca thought I just knew he was going bro Yo.
Speaker 1: I gotta pick my the man my team last year.
Speaker 1: Uh my man, honest a team. I'm stacking on him before.
Speaker 1: I'm going Damn, that's hard. I'm killing me. I'm killing
Speaker 1: him already. How are you? How are you gonna miss?
Speaker 1: I'm killing you, Katy. That's just length. I got shooters, man,
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of buckets. Nigger, that's length. That's fifty points.
Speaker 1: Twe that's sixty points. You're done. I killed them. He
Speaker 1: posted no sports hold on my four. You can move
Speaker 1: him to the four. Bron, who your next pick? What's
Speaker 1: the boy? I need to currently hear boy from Atlanta
Speaker 1: that shoot that. Yeah, I put him on the team too.
Speaker 1: So you got Tray young dame from Atta. And then
Speaker 1: I'm going, I'm going, Joel, you're in trouble with your
Speaker 1: last pig. That's your trouble because Tray small, Tray and Day.
Speaker 1: First of all, Clay play defense, because locking up Clay,
Speaker 1: locking up Joel and b play defense. Ron Ron the
Speaker 1: block shots. Bron play defense. But he used to be
Speaker 1: more lazy. That's one of them dudes. I like. On
Speaker 1: the next week for the playoffs, step Is, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick my last one. I think one of
Speaker 1: them tall boys. I don't know. Somebody wanted them, but
Speaker 1: my team busted joke. See yeah, damn yeah, get him
Speaker 1: do him go listen listen, I've seen it get different.
Speaker 1: Is my team moved the ball? You got all dominant
Speaker 1: need to need the ball in their hands to shoot.
Speaker 1: No Steph can come off a pick. Clay Clint can
Speaker 1: get sixty points on four dribbles. He don't need the
Speaker 1: ball so that so that loosens up Lebron being able
Speaker 1: to have the ball a little bit more. He could
Speaker 1: facilitate Steph and Clint coming off. Man, you gotta be
Speaker 1: kidding me. You ain't got a shot. What albums do you?
Speaker 1: Can't you listen to our repeat No Skills? One album
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Speaker 1: the world. He's from London. His name Sampa as m
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Speaker 1: One album that I can listen to. I gotta meet Sample.
Speaker 1: I got you, but I heard him. I got to man.
Speaker 1: One album I canna listen to front the Back probably
Speaker 1: would be uh reasonable doubt what I've been on that
Speaker 1: heavy the past? Crazy said that. Yeah, preasn't heavy heavy
Speaker 1: knock the hustible doubt. What's some game or advice you
Speaker 1: would give your listeners? Are listeners right now? Just do it? Man,
Speaker 1: whatever you whatever you're trying to do in life, do
Speaker 1: that ship man, stop watching life pass you by like
Speaker 1: a fucking him to accord on the E Way man,
Speaker 1: stop overthinking ship, do do and figure out as you
Speaker 1: do with it. My thing is uh number one, pick you,
Speaker 1: pick you, and if you feel it, live it. Don't
Speaker 1: double back when you're feeling. If you if you feel it,
Speaker 1: if you feel that you want to wear this, if
Speaker 1: you feel that you want to do this, go ahead
Speaker 1: and live it because you got If you want to
Speaker 1: be a graphic designer, go on YouTube and learning, Uh,
Speaker 1: whatever you want. If you want to wear certain clothes,
Speaker 1: if you want to you know, hey, your hair and
Speaker 1: line whatever, whatever your thing is out there in life.
Speaker 1: Don't let nobody put their insecurities and fears of the
Speaker 1: idea of the life that you have for yourself. Just
Speaker 1: go out, especially especially to young kids. Um. I know
Speaker 1: it's hard because you've got people out there that's that's
Speaker 1: gonna say something about you on social media or that's
Speaker 1: not gonna approve. Stop looking for approval from people. You know,
Speaker 1: we're looking for approval to live like. You don't need
Speaker 1: permission to live. Get out there and live your life
Speaker 1: every way possible. I don't care what you are, I
Speaker 1: don't care what you think you want to do. Just
Speaker 1: live it. You know what I mean? Because you feel it,
Speaker 1: and that's who you are. You know. Last question, man,
Speaker 1: if you can have a duo on all the smoke,
Speaker 1: who would it be? But before y'all answer the question,
Speaker 1: you'll have to help us get y'all answer on the show.
Speaker 1: Y'all have to bark pretty high with yourself though. So
Speaker 1: is there another duo out there you can think of
Speaker 1: that will have? Know what you mean, what that will
Speaker 1: be on this show? I mean we've got the too,
Speaker 1: you know, it's only one I can think of that
Speaker 1: that we with. Like when you said due, I probably
Speaker 1: think like two people that it's Nor and FM. Yes,
Speaker 1: who are you saying? Who are you thinking? Man? Knuckleheads Dash,
Speaker 1: Miles and Rich? Yeah? What they thought though too? That Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't know them. That's why I
Speaker 1: said I can make the call. We can get that done.
Speaker 1: And and and you know, I just like the fact that, man,
Speaker 1: we all in different lanes, man, and we all got
Speaker 1: love to each other, and we're all embracing each other.
Speaker 1: And it's it's no competition. Man, we're grown man, right,
Speaker 1: we actually just so that's me setting away example of
Speaker 1: how we're supposed to be a lot of them. I
Speaker 1: was older than you that's crazy. No you O, he's fifty.
Speaker 1: I'm forty three. I didn't know I was over, he said.
Speaker 1: He just shut the hell up. He even pithy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got to pull up about to google the ship.
Speaker 1: He really fifthy. He put that out there too, lying,
Speaker 1: ain't he got my fucker's really walking up? What say
Speaker 1: you fifty on the gram this morning? Funny ship? When
Speaker 1: you'll see when you'll see people that look like y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all post it on y'all page. Bro, I don't gotta
Speaker 1: see it because all my following was sending that ship
Speaker 1: to me. Gil, I've seen you out here in Buffalo
Speaker 1: while who did this? Man? Some thirty seven seven on
Speaker 1: seven said you did that? Like you said. They got
Speaker 1: new people that knew people that knew people, the thirty
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Speaker 1: gonna say my networks was two million. You got me
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Speaker 1: ain't push ninety six and we want to thank you
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