WEBVTT - Iran After the Fall: Who Leads Next? 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.960 Hour two Sean Hannity Show told Free it is eight 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:04.760 hundred and nine four one Sean, if you want to 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.680 be a part of the program. I mean, this was 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:14.400 a spectacular day today for both Israel and the United States, 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.840 and what they've been able to pull off today is remarkable. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:23.200 Israel striking Iranian leadership. They were there to choose Ali 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:29.760 Hamani's successor. More than forty more senior Iranian officials leaders killed. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.919 Since you know, Operation Epic Fury began on Saturday and 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:38.479 this was supposed to be the next generation, Israel leveled 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.559 the building where the clerics gathered to select Iran's new 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.760 supreme leader. Here to talk about the future of what 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.120 Iran may look like. The president thinks this could go 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:55.280 on four to five weeks. Ali Reza ja'far As the 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.320 day is with us is the deputy director of the 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:03.400 National Council of Resistance of Iran, and hue Hen Gobody 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.800 is the spokesperson for the People's mo Den Organization of Iran. 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.400 And welcome both of you to the program. I guess 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.400 I'll start with you Ali Raza. Let me ask you, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.600 where do you see this going and do you see 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.240 a new leadership emerging now that the clerics get taken 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.040 out in massive numbers. This is now the second massive 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.520 attack against the leadership. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.319 Thank you so much Sean for having me on your show. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.840 I fully agree with you that this regime must be 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.840 brought down by the people of Iran, and they're not 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.480 going to leave this scene now. In terms of the 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:44.840 affid the death of Harmony, the process for choosing the 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.600 next leader, I think in reality that's a much process 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:54.200 because after the death of Harmony, this is really the 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.360 end of the religious theocracies. This is the end of 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.559 the regime. No matter who they're going to put in place, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:05.200 how much temporary oxygen is left for them, this era 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.600 is over. The game is over now. The question is 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.200 how would the change happen inside the country by the people, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.120 And I fully agree with you at the end of 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:19.280 the day, it's those resistance forces on the ground we've 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.880 been confronting the revolution guards that are going to determine 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:29.040 the future of the country. Interestingly, just last week on Monday, 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:36.000 five days before the Comedy is Death, the forces organized 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.200 forces of the main RNI in opposition movement, the majority 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:44.680 how the MEK launched a massive strike against the headquarters 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:50.440 of the supremely their comedy inflicting heavy casualties on the 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.680 Revolutionary Guards and one hundred members of the MEK were 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.639 either killed or arrested, but another one hundred and fifty 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:02.120 managed to leave the country. And most importantly, the leader 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.800 of the movement, the president of the ANCIRA, is a woman, 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:12.320 missus Mariam Rajavi, who called for She announced the provisional 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.800 government for the transitional period to transfer sovereignty from the 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.880 repressive rulers of Iran to the elected representatives of the 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.880 people of Iran. And she and her message made it 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.800 very clear that when it comes to the armed forces 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.600 to take sides with the people of Iran, when it 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.680 comes to revolutionary Guards, because they've been heavily involved in 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.960 keeping this system in power, they need to lay down 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.080 their arms and surrender to the population now. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.440 Shue Hen Gobodi, I know you put out an ex 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:51.200 post talking about Mariam Rajave and New Kingrid to describe 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.400 this woman as the woman led resistance of the Iranian 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:58.120 regime when they fear the most, and women in the 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.120 political arena can be very potent transformational figures and of 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.880 transformational force. He said, I know this firsthand from almost 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.440 fifty years of challenging you know, in the challenging field 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.720 of politics. Is this somebody a dark course that maybe 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.359 the world doesn't know about now that could rise to power. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.279 Yes, Sean, First of all, thanks for having me in 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.360 your show. Yes, definitely. You see, Madame Mariam Reggevi has 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.119 been fighting, as you said, for almost more than fifty 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:31.560 years against post the child's leadership and the Mullah's tyranney, 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.880 and she has established a very viable alternative, the National 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.880 Council of Resistance of Iran, in which sixty percent of 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.599 the senior officials are women. And actually she has introduced 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.320 a ten point plan for transferring sovereigny to the people 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.120 of Iran, and that plan basically calls for separational government 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.839 and religion, for gender equality, universal suffrage, and non nuclear 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.000 run mutual amicable aiming the relationship for the rest of 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.880 the world. And they telling me for thousand parliamentarians, including 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.560 majority members of the US House of Representatives in a 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:08.640 bipartisan way, have endorsed her plan. And she has also 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.440 you know, has a very strong network of activists inside Iran. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:17.200 So in fact, she has been basically establishing the groundwork 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:22.479 for the transitional period and a blueprint or roadmap for 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.560 that time, so there will not be any chaos when 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.680 the Mullas are out and Iranian people take control of 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.719 the country that belongs to them first and foremost. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.000 Well, we do have to worry about holdovers, don't we. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:38.599 There are still probably remaining loyalists to the dead clerics 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:43.560 and supreme leader. That probably will be problematic moving down 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:43.920 the road. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.240 Now absolutely, yes, you have a very good observation there. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.400 But you see, when the history has shown us that 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.359 when basically it becomes quite evident that the Mullas have 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.640 reached the end of the road, and they are growing 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.400 signs to that. As you know, the rats jump the 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.680 ship and that has been the case in many many 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.880 cases in the history, and I'm sure it will happen 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.120 in Iran, and as Ali Reza said, we have airs 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.080 on army. It will be on the side of the people. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.039 But the IRGC has to surrender to the people. But 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.440 to your point in specific, there has an uptick of 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:20.159 activities of the resistance units in the past couple of 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.120 years and particularly the last few weeks, and they take 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.440 on you know, the besiege, you know, Para military offices 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.839 and a lot of the regime signs. So indeed, the 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.680 Evenian people at the end of the day will overcome 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.360 the IRGC and overwhelm them, and that's the only way 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.320 that they can arrest the control of the country and 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.279 a new day in Iran. So I totally agree with 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.680 you that the key factor at the end of the 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.480 day would be the Rnian people and the organized resistance 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.760 who have to overwhelm IRGC, who still decides to be 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.240 on the side of the Mulas and take the country 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:55.560 back Ali Raza. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.920 They're not going to be able to do that with slingshots. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.080 At some point, the people that you know had taken 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.840 to the streets and massive numbers that were slaughtered by 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.440 the tens of thousands. You can't win a revolution with 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.520 a sling shot. At some point they are going to 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.760 need to be armed to take out the remaining loyalists 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:15.880 that would exist. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.920 I agree with you, Sean, but the problem regarding Iran 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.560 over the years has not been that the people didn't 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.080 have arms. We had several problems. Number one, there was 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.760 this policy of appeasement by the West that's constantly. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.440 It's a massive problem that they haven't been armed. That's why, 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.880 you know, when Ali Hamane, you know, sent out the 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:42.240 guards to quell the the people that were out there protesting. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.920 They were mowed down. They had no way to defend themselves. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.640 No, no, My point is that now this situation has 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:53.240 changed and the people the resistance are armed. You know, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.800 I just mentioned about the massive You're. 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.640 Saying that the majority of the resistance is armed, and 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.200 if so, how have they been armed by the Curds. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.760 No, not the majority, but a good number from are 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.239 actually armed. You know, you had two hundred and fifty 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:13.880 of them attacking the headquarters of the Supreme Dealer. However, 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.720 the once the momentum shifts, there is plenty of arms 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.560 inny On. We had a lot of reports during the uprising, 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.640 the process last month that people were number one, disarming 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.520 the revolutionary guards, second attacking the places where they had 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:34.800 their arm depot and ammunition, taking away arms from them. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:39.240 Plus adding to that, you have areas where you know, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:44.400 the minorities, the nationalities have easier access to arms. You 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.800 mentioned the Kurdish region, there were you know, the border 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:53.480 regions are probably more accessible to arms. So that's that's 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.240 the life. I think once the momentum shifts, you will 0:08:56.320 --> 0:09:00.800 see how everyone is actually looking for it, and they'll 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.360 find a way to do it. But the most important 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.440 element is that you need to have an organization on 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.880 the ground, and just the arms itself doesn't help you. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.440 The good news is that that organization does exist. You know, 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.760 the main opposition movement the m K, which is the 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.200 same movement that exposed all the major nuclear sides of Irana, 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.760 and they have a history of fighting the regime over 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:29.640 the years and they have tremendous organizational capabilities. They were, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.439 you know, they had an army, a powerful army, resistance 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.679 army known as the National Liberation Army of Iran. They 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.880 know how to fight the iatolas. The most important thing 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.480 is the once the policy is shifted in favor of 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.720 those who are standing up against the regime, that are 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.920 you know, recognizing the legitimacy of those underground to fight 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:56.120 the Vision Guards. You can see how much in space 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.480 it creates for the younger generation to join for with 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.440 the resistance. You needs to underground with the NEK to 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:07.920 expand the networks. Even that during the uprising in January, 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.120 we saw many evidences of that that a lot of 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.040 the young people joined the organized force on the ground 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.000 and even though the regime killed so many people, but 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.880 they actually expanded the recruitment and there are more people 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.000 on board with this movement than they were even two 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:30.400 months ago. So that's the the you know, the the 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.600 momentum shift that really changes everything. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.520 Schuhan, I would argue that the best thing that could 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:43.320 probably happen is they overwhelm the remaining Revolutionary Guard forces 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.440 and get into the munitions, cash and and take out 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.120 as many of their weapons as possible. Do we have 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.600 any indication about how many people remain loyal to the 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:59.240 now dead regime that may be carrying out more murder 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.280 of innocent p pulled the way they had been in 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:02.640 the lead up to this conflict. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.440 Obviously I don't have an exact figure, but I think 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.160 what you said, Sean makes a lot of sense that 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.040 at one point what you said becomes inevitable, as we 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.920 saw in the last days of people getting of the 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.880 previous deicatortion. You've been around during the shots, this is 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.560 exactly what happened. With the big difference at this time. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.920 This is much more organized and much more focused. And 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:28.920 one indication is that as we witnessed in the fortieth 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.720 ceremonies of those who were slain and thousands of one thousands, 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.440 as you mentioned, is that this mood of rage and 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.280 people waiting for the moment to take things in their 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.160 own hands. And now this being more organized, obviously the 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.760 tactics will be decided as the situation on the ground dictates. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.800 But as I mentioned, even in the past few days, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.160 despite you know what's going on, we have seen an 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.760 uptick of activities of resistance units, you know, going after 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.400 this pasiege, which is like the local militias controlling the 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.800 areas taken over by the resistance series. So things are 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.760 moving in that direction, and I'm sure at one point 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.920 the power of the people who were much more organized 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.960 around any kay would overwhelm a r DECI and over 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.079 still hopes, you know, to clean on the Iotolo's rule. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.520 But that they projective is exactly the way you said it. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:25.400 Are they raiser? Where does love uh sit in this 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:26.560 equation if at all? 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:27.000 Well? 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:31.720 The only connection of Alavi has to Iran, his father, 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:37.240 the dictator that was deposed by a genuine popular revolution. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:42.359 Millions of people came to the streets over through that dictatorship. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.720 Why because Shaw had the sixty police of Arcs that 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:50.920 put intellectuals in jail. Shah built the notorious event prison. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.880 He dissolved all of the political parties that were legion 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.320 to him anyways and created one single party you called 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.440 Rasais and asked everyone to either join that party or 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.840 go to jail, or get your passport and leave the 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.880 country for good. He was extremely corrupt and that really 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:13.760 led to the revolution. So he is actually representing the 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.520 past of Iran. No one is interested in that. Every 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.600 time that he's interviewed and he's asked about his father, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:25.640 the rule of his father and grandfather, he says that, basically, 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.480 that's a different narrative. I'm not going to talk about 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.120 the past. I'm always about the future. He refuses to 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:37.079 reject the dictatorship of the show. Second, we talk about 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.680 the national minorities in Iran. You know about at least 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.840 forty percent of the Irnian population or the Kourgs, the Valuchis, 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:49.760 the Arabs, the azari Is, the lawyers and others. All 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.439 of them were We haven'tly opposed to the path Avi 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.800 dynasty that badly suppressed them. You know, there is a 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.599 Residents show Muhammad Zaphandabi as bad as you know, the 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.959 College theocracy and they're all opposed to it. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.440 Interesting, j Well, I want to see how this plays out. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.880 I mean, our hope is that there'll be a democratic Republican, 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.439 a duly elected government, and people will be able to 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.480 hear from various factions and hopefully choose a better path 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.480 for their future. But that's going to have to happen 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.840 from within. That's not going to be America that does it. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.840 That's not going to be any country in the region 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:25.600 that does it. It's going to be up to the 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.920 Iranian people what kind of future they want, that's for sure. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.680 And obviously there'll be some varying political factions that will 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.960 be fighting for the hearts and minds of the people 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.000 of Iran. I hope they choose wisely. This may be 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:44.720 their only opportunity. Thank you both, appreciate it. Thank you 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:49.480 Ali Rasa, Thank you Shuhn. We appreciate you both being 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.680 one of us. Quick break right back, we'll continue on 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.760 the other side. It was fascinating to get an inside 0:14:54.960 --> 0:15:00.400 glimpse into the negotiations, especially after Midnight Hammer and fourteen 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:04.560 bunker buster bombs by Donald Trump taken out and obliterating 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.880 Iran's nuclear sites. This after Israel, you know, wiped out 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:13.680 their their nuclear scientists, wiped out their air defense systems, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:18.440 their ballistic missile systems. I mean, just absolutely decimated the country, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:23.520 both Israel and the US. In that first effort maneuvers, 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.280 you know, they controlled the entire sky. This goes back 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.640 to last June, and you know, and then the you 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.920 would think the Iranians might have learned that they're they're 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:38.160 just outmatched. They learned nothing. And here's Steve Whitkoff, Middle 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:42.440 East envoy, describing in detail him and Jared Kushner meeting 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.040 with the Iranians and saying, you can't have nuclear weapons. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.680 Donald Trump has been very clear, but they just cling 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.640 to this notion. We're clinging to the notion that they could. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.000 Well how did that end up for them? Listen, the 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.560 world's number one state sponsor of terror is getting dismantled 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.560 right before a very high is history in the making. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.600 This is the very same regime that tried to assassinate 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.880 President Trump, not once, but twice. They have now lost 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.720 their supreme leader Ali Kameni and almost everyone else in 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.520 his inner circle forty total. Trump told ABC quote, I 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.760 got him before he got me. They tried twice. I 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.560 got him first here with more on what led up 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.520 to this operation Epic Fury. Our special envoy to the 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.160 Middle East front of the program, Steve Wikoff, is with us. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.680 All Right, you're in the room with these negotiators, and 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.360 I know you you are a deal maker. The President 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.960 wanted a deal. You odd a lot of latitude in 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.640 that room. Bring us inside that room. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.440 First of all, Sean, thanks, good night, good evening, and 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.240 thanks for having me. So just to give you a 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.640 little bit of a taste for how these three days 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.640 of negotiations went. Three separate times, Jared and I opened 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:59.040 up with the Iranian negotiators telling us they had the 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:04.080 inalienable right to enrich all their nuclear fuel that they possessed. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.200 That's how they opened up. We of course responded that 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.560 the President feels we have the inalienable right to stop 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:16.320 you dead year tracks. They then went on to say 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:24.359 that beyond the inalienable right to enrich, that that was 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.280 going to be their starting point, and Jared and I 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.800 just sort of looked at ourselves flum mixed, and said, well, 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:31.959 we're really in for it now. 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.040 Well let me get a little in the wheeze if 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.879 we can. My understanding was you got to a point 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.720 where you were discussing enriched uranium at much very low 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.080 levels for civilian purposes, although I don't think they really 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.160 need it, because they have all the energy they'd ever want. 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:54.000 But did that come up? Was that offer made to them? 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:59.800 We discussed with them ten years of no enrichment whatsoever, 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.480 and we would pay for the fuel. And it was 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.520 flatly rejected. And the presidents says for you that to 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.240 have a good faith negotiation, pardon me. 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.240 You're saying that we would give it to them, and 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:13.960 they rejected it. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.440 They actually had that, and they rejected that, which told 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.359 us at that very moment that they had no notion 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.760 of doing anything other than retaining enrichment for the purpose 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:26.560 of weaponizing. 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.520 You made a statement last week and when I heard it, 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.520 and I've known you for a long time and you 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.440 are a friend, and when you made the statement that 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.600 in fact, they may be a week away from possibly 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:45.480 having capability at that moment, I interpreted that to mean 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.800 it's go time, It's over. Was I wrong? Was that 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:50.120 the moment that it was over? 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.880 Well, I don't know if that exact moment it was over, 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:58.040 but I know this. They have ten thousand roughly kilograms 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:02.280 of fissionable material that's broken up into roughly four hundred 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:07.439 and sixty kilograms of sixty percent enriched uranium, another thousand 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.840 kilograms of twenty percent enriched uranium, and the balance is 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:16.760 at three point sixty seven. They manufacture their own centrifuges 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:21.119 to enrich this material, so there's almost no stopping them. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.159 They have an endless supply of it. The sixty percent 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:30.000 materials SEAN can be brought to ninety percent that's weapon grade, 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.840 weapons grade in roughly one week, maybe ten days at 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:38.040 the outside. The twenty percent can be brought to weapons 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.680 grade inside of three to four weeks. And let me 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.359 say this, because I forgot this small little detail. In 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:51.080 that first meeting, both the Iranian negotiators said to us directly, 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:56.720 with no shame, that they controlled four hundred and sixty 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.560 kilograms of sixty percent and they're aware that that could 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.800 make eleven nuclear bombs. And that was the beginning of 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:09.359 the negotiating stance. So they were proud of it. They 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.920 were proud that they had evaded all sorts of oversight 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.639 protocols to get to a place where they could deliver 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:16.919 eleven nuclear bombs. 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.040 What I wouldn't do to be a fly on the 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:25.720 wall in that room, because Steve, you're a negotiator. You've 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.960 run the most successful businesses, built some of the most 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:33.320 beautiful golf courses. It defies all logic and reason for 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:37.480 them to sit there as if Midnight hammered never happened 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.199 and dictate to you that the one thing that President 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.360 Trump insisted on, they can't get a nuclear weapon. They're 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.360 going to go forward anyway. How stupid are they were? 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:48.760 They they're done, They're gone. 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:52.440 Now, well, well it was pretty silly, but they thought 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.680 they could strong arm us. You know, President Trump sent 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.399 me and Jared there to really determine on his behalf 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.639 whether they were serious about doing a deal that that 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:09.119 addressed his objectives, which are elimination of their of their 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:14.800 missile program, elimination of their advocacy and support for proxies 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.960 which is destabilizing the entire Middle East, elimination of their 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.800 navy so we can have freedom of the seas and 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:26.040 not be threatened with the shutdown of the Gulf of Hormus. 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:30.960 And finally, no nuclear enrichment that can get them to 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.199 weapons grade, which means no nuclear bomb. And we went 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.720 in there and tried to make a fair deal with them, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.600 and it was it was It was very very clear 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.600 that it was that it was going to be impossible, 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:44.920 probably by the end of the second meeting, but we 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:46.920 then went back for the third meeting just to give 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.440 it the last college try, and of course they thought 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:55.399 they wanted us to report positivity. It was it was 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:56.760 not positive that meeting. 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.600 Oh, Steve Woodcoff, I know you've been plying all over 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:04.000 the globe, and you know at on your own dime. 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:05.680 I think people do need to know that if you 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:10.000 don't mind me telling people serving your country, serving the president, 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.919 doing your best to bring peace to the world. They 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:17.480 brought this action on themselves. You gave them every opportunity 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.800 to take the exit ramp off. They decided not to. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.760 But we really appreciate you sharing all that with us. 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.639 Steve Witcoff, Middle East m Boy, Thank you, sir. That 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.479 was Steve Whitcoff, the Middle East don Boy describing the private, 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:35.280 behind the scenes meetings, telling the Iranians, under no circumstances 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:39.400 can they have nuclear weapons and they just flat out refused. 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:43.200 This is after Operation Midnight Hammer, so they've they brought 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:46.240 all of this on themselves. We'll get to your calls. 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.480 Coming up next eight hundred nine poot one. Shawn is 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.920 on number Also my interview with Prime Minister net and 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:55.080 Yahoo coming up in mere moments. Let's get to our 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:59.439 busy phones. Philip is in Texas, Philip, God bless Texas. 0:22:59.440 --> 0:22:59.720 How are you? 0:22:59.840 --> 0:22:59.879 So? 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:00.760 We are glad you called? 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:03.080 Oh, thank you very much, Sean big fan. 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.000 What's going on? I appreciate it. What's happening? 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:09.760 Oh? Also, I've got a couple of SIGs myself, so 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.399 I agree with you there. It's kind of funny. I 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:18.399 actually uh and live in Dallas, but in usin right 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.000 now for to hear my father. But was at the 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:27.680 on Saturday, the the Iranian protests against America and the Gallery. 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:32.399 I drove by it. Unbelievable, people holding signs, screaming, yelling, 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:37.040 down with America, down with Israel, down with Ice. Most 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:41.119 almost all the women were in tight beads covered up, 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.040 just you know, screaming and yelling. Then I went I 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:51.760 went to Sundays stand with Iran's rally. I'm Jewish and 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:57.560 there were Jewish people. There was the Christians, Catholics standing 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:01.280 with Israel, staying with Iran. They had people screaming, thank 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:05.360 you Donald Trump, thank you Bb you know, and you're 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.960 sitting there looking at the overall people. I had a 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:10.560 woman come up to me and say, you know what, 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.240 for the first time, I don't have to say I'm Persian. 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.840 I can say I'm a Ranient. And and the thing 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.320 is for me was it was so funny. It was 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:23.120