WEBVTT - Oklahoma Slam with Brandon Adams 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.640 You're listening to the Sportsman's Nation podcast network powered by 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.520 Interstate Batteries from your truck to your trail camera. Interstate 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.440 Batteries as you covered. Visit your local Interstate Batteries store 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:17.880 today or online at Interstate Batteries dot com. Interstate Batteries 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:27.240 Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:31.200 of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.800 host into the world of hunting the icon of North 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:40.080 American wilderness to batter we'll talk about tactics, gear conservation. 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.400 Will also bring you into some of the wildest country 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:51.640 on the planet. Chasing the Battery. 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We're 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.320 at the Bear Hunting Magazine Global headquarters and we have 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:36.560 a awesome guest in the office today, Mr Brandon Adams 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:41.120 from Oklahoma. I also have uh, also have Colby moorehead 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.640 of Bear Hunting Magazine here and so bear Tech Bear 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.919 Huney Magazine, bear Tech is here. And I'll tell you 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:53.760 why Brandon is here. For Brandon, I'm gonna give a 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.479 little introduction of you, of what I know of you, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.320 and then but I want you to I mean, this 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.040 podcast is gonna be about talking about some stuff that 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.960 Brandon is doing, some projects. Brandon's the new bear hunter, 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.839 uh and broader than that. But so Brandon Adams, he 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.360 is a he's been with Major League bow Hunter, which 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.279 is a show on the Outdoor Channel channel Dang Sportsman's Channel, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:22.080 Sportsman's Channel for many years. So Brandon has been on 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.599 the show, a hunter, on the show, a videographer. He's 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:28.560 also the he's the producer of the show. So that's 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.040 that's kind of what you do. So and I met 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.919 Brandon a couple of years ago through a friend of 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:39.800 ours that introduced us because Brandon, he's from Oklahoma, but 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.039 you're really not from the part of Oklahoma where the 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.600 bears are, and so you we we got connected about 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.440 Oklahoma black bear hunting and you were gonna be doing 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:53.840 some hunting and uh so that's how we met, right, Yeah, 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.000 probably three years ago or something. Uh no, it was 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:58.599 the beginning of it's been a little over a year, 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.200 is that all we ended up? Like I've known you 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.120 for three that's right. As much as also April that's 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.440 really ap is not a hopefully because a is my 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:13.200 wedding anniversary and this year is my tenth. Thank you. Yeah, 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.800 you would know if it was. I would definitely on 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.000 My wife would definitely let me know about it. Uh 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:24.040 But yeah, we we met last year, Tim, so little 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.040 over a year. But I text you so much and 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.400 ask you so many questions that it's felt like three years. Yes, yes, 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.160 well that's that's what it is. Man. You've texted me 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:38.240 three years worth of friendship. Now you know what. It's awesome. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.599 But anybody that's wanting to I mean you you asked 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:47.159 good questions, so that's good. But okay, tell us Brandon 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.840 give me. I think a lot of people I was 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.280 interested when I met you a year ago, uh to 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.080 learn how you got involved with Major League bow Hunter 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.280 and kind of how just kind of your story. So 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.480 why why don't you tell us your story of how? 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:05.760 Because you you make live in full time of the 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.520 outdoor industry. That's just what you do. And uh so 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.480 give us, give us the story of how you got 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.000 hooked up with these guys. Oh boy, where do we 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.520 want to start this story? Uh? Okay, I'll start the 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:21.480 abbreviated version of my history. Um. I started filming Hunts 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.360 whenever I was a kid. Wait, wait, this story is 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.680 supposed to start. I was born in the small Show. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.560 I was born in central Local. I was born in 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:31.240 late eighties in California. Oh no, no, no, I I 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.280 wanted it to be I was born in the small 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.120 tar paper Shock and the foothills of Oklahoma. Nope, Nope, 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:41.440 I was I was born on We'll we'll edit this 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.400 and uh we'll have a cooler story later. No, but 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.400 I was born in California, actually on a military base. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.240 Bounce around in the military, my army bratt, bounce around 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.080 for a little bit, and ended up back in central Oklahoma, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.880 which is where my family is from. But I've been infatuated. 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:55.880 I was fortunately very fortunate to grow up on a 0:07:56.040 --> 0:08:00.160 farm and ranch. So, uh, that's fortunately a couple of ways. One, Uh, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.080 it is stealed upon me a work ethic because I've 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.600 been working since I was nine years old, you know, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.640 talking about eighteen hour days as a you know, eleven 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.440 twelve year old hall and hey, you know, doing hey 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.560 and doing the ranch stuff. And um, luckily to have 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:18.040 that you know in my blood, and yeah, exactly, because 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:23.400 it's super easy to stand out, uh in a world 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.520 of office people that aren't used to working hard. You know, 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.040 office work is super easy to me because I grew 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.199 up doing you know, working on my back. Uh. Super 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.679 lucky there, and also super fortunate to have all that 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.520 land to go stomping around just some animals, hunting, fishing. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.680 If it was in season. In Oklahoma, I was hunting. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.800 And it was lucky to have a a family that 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.439 not only supported me, but encouraged me um to get 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.200 out there as much as possible. And I grew up 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:51.760 playing sports. So I was a super busy kid. I 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.640 don't know how my parents did it, honestly, but I 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.960 was always infatuated. I mean literally from a ten eleven 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.520 year old kid, and I was in I took a 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.960 VHS camera, you know, one of the big shoulder cameras 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.640 that my mom and dad had up in the closet, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.040 and I would take it out and I would film 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.880 hunting stuff. I'll go outside and filming birds. I go 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.240 outside trying to film deer out in the backyard. And uh, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.760 I remember hooking up VCRs in a line with you know, 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.719 like the r C A Jackson. You used them in 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.040 a line to take raw footage into and create you know, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:31.000 quote unquote edited VHS. Yeah, which I mean this was 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.960 in the nineties, so there was definitely higher technology around, 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.679 but that's what I used. But I actually, I'll tell 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.559 you this. Uh not a lot of people know this, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.920 but whenever I was ten years old. This is true. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.040 I had Yeah. Well people don't believe this, but I 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.360 had a buddy who was also my age, who knew 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.840 HTML code as a ten year old, and he taught 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.840 me how to write HTML code. And as ten year 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.080 olds we created websites, you know in the nineties. Uh 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.600 Mine was called Okay White Tales for Oklahoma White Tales. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.040 He was a big turkey hunter and so his was 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.199 called Turkey Hunting HQ. Well it was, it was not. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.480 We didn't own the domain. It was dot zero catch. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.920 It may still be online, Honestly, I haven't logged on. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.559 I don't even know. So if you go to Okay 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:22.160 White Tales dot zero, like the number zero catch dot com, 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.320 see some of your old work. But here's the thing. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.880 I went under a pseudo name. So I went under 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.719 Brandon Jones. Yep, that's that's a true story as a 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.400 ten eleven year old, a ten year old. You we 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.079 want to know. I know you own a magazine, but 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.199 you want to know something funny about what I think 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:45.959 about outdoor writers. And this proves my story. Um, I'm 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:51.000 not gonna say too much, but I read everything I could. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.839 I get a fatuate of things and and I was 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.760 reading everything I could, you know, magazines, books, which at 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.920 the time there was hardly any you know, hunting books. Uh, 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.520 but I was everyone I could, and I was just 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.880 regurgitating that. So I was able to put down on 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.599 you know, pen and pad articles that I was just 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.000 regurgitating things that I had read previously. So they would 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.199 be putting these on your website, They're on They're on 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.319 my website. Yes, I'm sure I don't know what I 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.680 truly don't know what's on there, but there is definitely 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.480 tips on there from a ten or eleven year old 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.000 Brandon Adams. Uh, now, how old are you that, Brandon, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:32.040 I'm trying I turned thirty Saturday. Actually, yeah, so I'm 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:33.960 I'm on the right side of it. Would have been 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:38.120 the late nineties. Yes, ninety I was trying to quit 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.839 in the internet. I mean, that's really about when the 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.800 Internet really started coming to people. It was a little 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.720 more mainstream, but totally not mainstream. That's why we went 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.360 inner a pseudent name, because it was like, I mean, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.719 I was ten for one, and it was you know, 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.319 everyone was afraid of losing their identity, and you know, 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.599 it was just new. No one knew what it was uh, so, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.440 like I said, one in Brandon Jones and he went 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.880 under his names. I don't know, I don't want to 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.360 say his name, but he went under his suder name too. Uh. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.000 But anyway, there there's regurgitated articles on that website if 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.520 you can find it. But anyway, from there, it led 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.679 to getting my hands on a newer you know, a 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.079 newer camera as a high eight camera and um my 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.120 button different. Buddy and I we started shoot competitive archeries, 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.160 traveling the country doing that, and then that led to 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.320 us to filming each other's hunt in the fall. Uh. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.880 That led to Uh, there was a local TV show 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.360 and out of Olcahoma City that was taking applications for 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.839 a pro staff and this was in the early two thousand, 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:39.840 mid two thousands, and Uh, I applied us without asking him. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.599 Actually it was a two. And this is really I 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.640 did live by my age. I was. I've always been. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.000 This is true. I don't know. I'm not gonna lie 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.440 lie about this, but I've always lied about my age. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:56.520 I always feel uh discriminated against because of your because 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.880 I've always been young. You know, even one day that'll change, 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.920 I know, And I am really I mean I'm really 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.360 looking forward to my thirties because you just turned thirty. 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.560 I turned I haven't turned thirty. I turned thirty Saturday. Really, yeah, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.600 I've got a good I've got a good quote about 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:17.160 Daniel Boone's life, about a man's thirties. I have to 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.280 share with you, like I don't want to miste. The 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.680 thirties are like, thirties are a good decade. I'm coming 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.640 out of my thirties. Well, I'll be forty in September. 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.360 Well you did it. Yeah, yeah, I made it out 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:35.439 my twenties. So well I haven't I've made a Saturday yet. Uh. Well, 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.080 this is the this is the good version. I wasn't 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.040 sure what version we're gonna get. Yeah, we got the 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:47.440 HTML code, we got the website ahead. I always so. Yeah. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.280 So I was sixteen whenever I applied for for this 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.760 pro staff. But I so, I told him I was seventeen. 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.240 Why I did that? I have no idea. Also, fun fact, 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.520 when I met my wife, I was seventeen going into 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.679 my senior year, which would have been the next year. Uh, 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.280 I told her I was eight team because she's older 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.520 than me. You know, I was going into my scene. 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.920 What did you know how she found out. I was 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.720 on the phone with her and then on my cell phone, 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.839 and then the house phone rang and it was a 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:18.719 I think it was a college recruiter, like for a 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.160 sports or something. It could have been, I don't as 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.520 a recruiter some kind. And he was asking me a 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.200 bunch of questions, and I put my wife or my girlfriend, 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:27.960 you know, down like this, and I was talking to 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.240 this recruiter. I was on the phone for them like 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.520 ten minutes, and that's all kinds of questions about myself, 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.080 including my birthday, and mind you, that was like one 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.160 of the first questions. And then we talked for like 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.520 five minutes, ten minutes, and then I hang up with him, 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.320 and then I picked the phone. She said, when did 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.840 you say your birthday was? What year did you say 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.760 you were born? And I was like, oh, and she yeah, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.240 So she's three years older. She's three years and two 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.280 weeks older than me, which means for two weeks out 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.040 of the year, including right now, she's four years older 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.960 than me. So kind of just gave away my wife's age. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:07.680 But sorry, babe, I love you. Uh But anyway, the 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.240 point was is I did lie about my age. There 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.960 we got accepted on the pro staff. Was again I've 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.320 I've been very blessed and very fortunate throughout my life 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.840 to have opportunities, but also been very fortunate to take 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:23.520 advantage of opportunities. And our first year on uh pro 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.520 staff for this local TV show, which at the time 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.440 was just now getting into remember the Men's channel m 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:32.760 O R. It turned into uh I believe it turned 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.480 into Sportsmans Channel. Yeah. Um, anyway, we were, we were 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.880 that show was just going on the Men's channel, and 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.520 my partner and I, my hunting partner and I we 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.200 had a really good first year and that set up 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.960 set us up really good for uh, you know, the 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.320 upcoming season, and uh that next year we had another 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.640 I had a really good year and we we split up, 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.720 and then the owner of the show that was on 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.880 asked me if I wanted to film him, you know, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.400 as a full time field producer, and I was like, oh, yep, 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.800 And so that next fall I I filmed him, which 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.000 was so my first year actually getting a paycheck in 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.760 the outdoor industry was two thousand and eight. So this 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:16.880 is uh, what does that even eleventh season? Yeah, well, 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:22.080 twelve season, Uh yeah, going into my twelve season nine, 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.880 um or eleventh, No. Seven was the first year I 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.840 filmed him. Anyway, the point is I've been filming professionally, 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.560 quote unquote professionally since he was seven. I've been in 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.400 the outdoor industry since oh five. So how how did 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.600 you get in with the major league? So the owner 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.640 of that company, we were in cahoots with this other 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.960 company called Buck Commander with Matt Duff and Chipper and 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:51.640 you know, a bunch of rochy and lanky and Tombo Robertson. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.960 Uh Willie we Uh was in goods with them. And 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:57.640 the show that we were on and the show that 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:02.320 they were on, they wanted to focus they are you know, 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:03.880 there was a group of them that was, you know, 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.680 die hard bow hunters, and they wanted to make a 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.719 show that was just about bow hunting and was educational. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.679 And that was where Majorie bow Hunter was born. Uh. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.000 And so at the time I was producing the other show, 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.480 and uh, they asked me if I could produce this 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.560 show too, Major Lee bow Hunter. And mind you, I 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.200 only had a year or two of experience, but I 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.320 was like, sure, why not? Who needs to sleep? You know? 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:32.160 We could do that when I'm dead, when I'm forty. Uh. Yeah, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.280 that's what you've been researching. Yeah, but anyway, that was 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.960 that was I've been around Majorie bow Hunter since the beginning, 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:44.120 literally the very first they start, uh we started filming 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:50.120 in we're back. We're actually filming for season ten right now. Yeah, 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.000 so I'm putting together the episodes for season nine. We 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.399 filmed last you know fall, and then you're about to 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.960 start filming season so we'll be filming uh not next week, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.520 with the week after that or some in the field 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.840 stuff for some you know, putting together some properties and 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.080 stuff that will be four season ten, which is really 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.280 cool to be producing the show that long and be 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:14.040 a part of the show that long. And uh, since 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:15.800 I started as a producer as a film producer and 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:20.040 then a producer, and then that led to I kind 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.040 of stepped down as film producing. I just did the 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.200 producing part and I kind of i'd say over Sue, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.479 you know, I make sure that the film producers got 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.080 what we what I needed to make a show. And 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.840 then since then, I've taken over a lot of day 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.800 to day operations at Major Lee bow Hunter. You know, 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.920 we're fortunate to have a good mark, you know, I 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:43.159 Major Lee bow Hunter is real strong logo, and so 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.360 I I had a lot of business stuff. I had 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.760 a lot of you know, behind the scenes, not just 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:52.440 on the TV's TV show side. So yeah, it's uh, 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.800 I've been like I said, I've been very fortunate to 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.120 have the opportunities. I've been very fortunate to take advantage 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.800 of the ones I've got. Well, it's evidence extremely hard 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:04.240 worker even that you're here. Drove three hours today to 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:06.960 to compare and meet with us, but also to work 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.840 on this project that we're gonna talk about here in 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.280 just a minute. And and that's really what it takes. 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.080 You know, when I when I meet people that are 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:17.639 professional videographers and you we when we talk about like 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.920 working in the outdoor industry to create content. I think 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:26.600 sometimes people the general feeling sometimes of people that are 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:30.480 professionals from people who are not professionals can sometimes be 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.719 sort of negative, maybe not negative, but just like like, uh, 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.920 just thinking that maybe people not understanding people's motivations and 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:46.040 what I what I like to see and somebody like 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.600 you is I mean, you're a passionate hunter. I mean 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.000 that's that is your motivation for all the work that 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.280 you've done. And now granted the work side of it. 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.520 I mean, like you're technically skilled and you learned a 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:05.560 lot of these skills, but really the fuel for all 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.560 that was the desire to work inside of an industry 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.520 that you loved. And I mean just that that just 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.320 being a being a hunter. I think sometimes people see 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.320 people that are professionals, especially television and television guys have 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.280 the have the bad rap, and I think it's because 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.359 some people maybe are jealous. I don't know, but but 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.000 like I mean, I don't know. I just want to 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.639 say that because sometimes I hear guys people talking about 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.040 producing television shows and sometimes like the hunting side of 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.080 it gets lost. But I don't see that getting lost 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.920 inside of you. I mean, like you're you're, you're, you're, 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.880 you love it, You're passionate about it. When I set 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.520 out to I mean I truly did set out to 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.520 be in this industry. I set out to make a 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.359 living in the outdoor world. I don't know how I 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:52.800 was gonna do it. I'm gonna be a guide. I 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.600 didn't know if I was gonna you know, I don't 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.280 know what I was gonna do. I stood up at 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.960 my senior year in high school. I stood up in 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.800 like this leadership, uh you know, counts are meeting or whatever, 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.520 in front of all the leaders of my hometown and 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.520 told them that I wanted to be a professional hunter 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.760 and they all laughed. Now I'm kind of a cut 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.479 up and you know, make people laugh, you know. Anyway, 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:16.760 so they laughed, and I wasn't joking. And to say 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.080 that that didn't have a little put a little grit 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.200 in my belly, you know, to to make it, make 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.680 me work. You can go harder? Uh would it? Would 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.720 it be a lie? But like I said earlier, you know, 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.080 not that long ago. I was fortunate to grow up 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.040 on a farm to learn a good work ethic and 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.760 that has led well into the century. And the negative 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:41.359 uh connotation uh people have for celebrities, and that's a 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:45.040 that's a terrible world. But for the it's actually probably 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.920 getting worse because of the world of social media. You know, 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:53.600 people put influencer, public figure, whatever, I think they're more 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:57.399 than they're not. Some people are in it for different 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:01.280 motives than others. But I truly love, I truly love 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.200 making a living and uh providing for my family. Yeah, 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:07.760 not only you know, by the animals I bring in, 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.399 but yeah, from the financial. But the other thing that 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.320 I think people don't understand is that it took a 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.440 tremendous amount of sacrifice. Like they might see you now saying, oh, man, 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.520