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Speaker 3: Oh this was painful, very painful. That's coming right up.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks and Mady Fermanent. We're broadcasting

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Speaker 3: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now, without further ado,

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Speaker 3: let me introduce to the world today, mister football, my friend,

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Speaker 3: mister Bucket Brooks. Bucky, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm great, Andy. What's going on? Man?

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Speaker 5: How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to make you a little happier because I

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Speaker 3: know it's a little said down there Jacksonville with the

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Speaker 3: Jags and losing, but you know it's over. You got

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Speaker 3: to move on and that's the way it is. But

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Speaker 3: it can't be any worse than what happened in Seattle

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Speaker 3: yesterday with the forty nine ers. I mean that, and

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Speaker 3: I say was painful. That was painful, but so is

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Speaker 3: the second game. But let's get into this for a second.

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Speaker 3: Forty one to six Seattle over the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 3: and everybody's saying, do you know, and I know our

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Speaker 3: producer Brandon Sandy's a big forty nine fan. The injuries.

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Speaker 3: This is more than injuries. This is a great freaking

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Speaker 3: football team in Seattle, and that defense is like the

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Speaker 3: Legion of Doom that it's maybe better than the Legion

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Speaker 3: of Doom. I have never seen that. And they started

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Speaker 3: it right off with that ninety seven yard return for

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Speaker 3: a touchdown. I mean, this team had no flaws, at

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Speaker 3: least yesterday had no flaws.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's yesterday, and that's all that mattered.

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Speaker 4: They're the best team in the stadium by a wide margin.

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Speaker 5: And knocking off the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike McDonald has the Seattle Seahawks playing at a

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Speaker 4: high level. This team is rock solid offensively, defensively, special teams.

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Speaker 4: They made the trade Forshi Shashid doing the regular season,

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Speaker 4: and then you got to see Am Donald, who didn't

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Speaker 4: throw on Thursday or Friday, but he showed up and

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Speaker 4: played well even though they were able to keep him

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's a really good team.

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Speaker 4: They knocked it off, but it means nothing if they

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Speaker 4: don't win next weekend, it just means nothing. Just means

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Speaker 4: they had a great Division round performance.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know. And it's funny because you know the

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Speaker 3: big story going into the game with Sam Donald with

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Speaker 3: the oblique injury he comes out, he plays, he goes

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Speaker 3: twelve to seventeen point twenty four in a touchdown. And

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Speaker 3: what I'm noticing more and more in these playoff games,

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Speaker 3: you know they pit quarterback versus quarterback, and that that's

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Speaker 3: the selling that's the selling line. It really is that.

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Speaker 3: That's what the TV networks do when they say quarterback

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Speaker 3: versus quarterback. It's more than that. It's defense. And yesterday

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Speaker 3: that Seattle defense was smothering, you know, Christian McCaffrey, how

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Speaker 3: to get going? Yesterday eleven carries for just thirty five

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Speaker 3: yards is the best defense in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: Teams are running like three point five yards of carry

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Speaker 3: against this defense. I don't know if it's the personnel.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the coaching combination of both.

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Speaker 3: How do you stop a running back like a McCaffrey

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Speaker 3: like that? How does this defense work? Tell me you

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Speaker 3: are a defensive guy. It's so good, little man.

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Speaker 4: Their violence, their physicality is next level. They played with

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Speaker 4: great effort. Mike McDonald is a terrific x's and o's coach.

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Speaker 4: He can make you play left handed because he's willing

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Speaker 4: schemes and game plans and just completely throw you off. Now,

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Speaker 4: I would say the Diners, the version of the Niners

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Speaker 4: that showed up yesterday was compromise. You don't have George Kittle.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're kind of limping into the contest. You

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Speaker 4: they didn't have the same kind of perimeter threats that

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Speaker 5: But they did a really good job of locking.

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Speaker 4: In on Christian McCaffrey and U Check and having coverages

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Speaker 4: and shifts and different things that Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 5: Does to throw you off. It's just a well.

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Speaker 4: Constructed team and their personnel and their scheme matches up,

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Speaker 4: which is why they're very, very difficult to beat.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now, for for those making excuses for the forty

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Speaker 3: ball club. Right now, but the forty nine Ers met

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Speaker 3: the Seagawks for the third time yesterday on September seventh.

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Speaker 3: The forty nine Ers won seventeen thirteen and just two

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Speaker 3: Seaguks thirteen to three. So the forty nine ers end

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Speaker 3: the season scoring I combined twenty six points in three

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Speaker 3: fewest points scored by any team among seventy six single

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable what they've done. And look, I know the

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Speaker 3: game was in Seattle. I'm watching on TV. It was

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Speaker 3: really hard to even hear the announcers with the sound

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Speaker 3: you've played there. I'm sure. How bad is that? What

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's a very difficult environment to be in.

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Speaker 4: It's one that when the twelves are rocking and rolling

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's a very tough environment.

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Speaker 4: And I go all the way back to the heyday

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Speaker 5: The early twenty tens.

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Speaker 4: When I used to go up there and watch those

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Speaker 4: rivalry games between the Seahawks and the Niners, and it

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Speaker 4: was rockets. You could even hear yourself think it is

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Speaker 4: only gotten better. It's only gotten better up there, the team,

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Speaker 4: the crowd, the way they're connected, the city and the franchise.

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Speaker 4: And then just because this team is so good, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they have it going on. There's a very difficult environment

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Speaker 3: Okay, now, now we got to bring on our executive producer. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Brandon Deutsch is a tremendous forty nine Ers fan, and

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Speaker 3: I get it. On the seventh of September, the forty

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Speaker 3: nine one, seventeen thirteen in Seattle, all right, and they

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Speaker 3: were healthy but still an old Brandon, I condolences to you.

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Speaker 3: I know you're down on the dumbs, but you gotta admit,

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be tough to admit that Seattle is

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Speaker 2: Of course, But if if Nick Bosa, Fred Warner and

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Speaker 2: it's a different story. I mean, momentum is everything. Andy,

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Speaker 2: they scored on the first play of the game, the

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Speaker 2: game was over. I knew right then. The Niners are

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Speaker 2: a horrible football team when they don't make the first punch. Historic,

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 3: If that game may have been in San Francisco. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying that the forty nineers would have won, but

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Speaker 3: I think a little bit of different story would have

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Speaker 2: He still would have lost in San Francisco with this

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Speaker 4: But yeah, there's a lot of IFFs and things that

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Speaker 4: I remember Mike Tomlin said, if my auntie had my

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Speaker 5: I just I just don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what we're talking about. Like, yeah, like

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Speaker 4: that's a tough one to go into the offseason.

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Speaker 5: Smarting from a beatdown like that.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt, and I'll tell you why. Now. The

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Speaker 3: saying it was easy to tell which team had thirteen

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Speaker 3: on a short week. If that an opening round win

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Speaker 3: at the Philadelphia Eagles the forty nine ers, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I get it. You know there's a team resting, but

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Speaker 3: and I'm with you, man, And they were injuries all

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I'd rather lose like that then

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Speaker 3: don't know. Take your pick. What would you rather do? Buck?

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're playing, I think I'd rather get

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want to lose, period, Like there's no

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Speaker 4: If you're the Niners, you feel your heartbroken because.

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Speaker 5: You didn't feel like you had enough to come to

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Speaker 4: You didn't have enough firepower to give yourself a fighting

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Speaker 4: If you're the Buffalo Bills, when you lose a close game,

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Speaker 4: it's all of the regret from the opportunities or the

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Speaker 4: it's a difficult thing. But look the finality of losing

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Speaker 5: It still sucks. It's crummy.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. Okay. So we look now

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Speaker 3: at the at the Seattle Seahawks. They got a host

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Speaker 3: the winner of today's game between the fifth seed of

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Speaker 3: in their first one since twenty fourteen. All right, so

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Speaker 3: good for them, all right, and not good for Brandon,

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Speaker 3: But there we go. But the next game, the second game,

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Speaker 3: which may have been one of the best football games

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Speaker 3: credit to the National Football League this is one of

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Speaker 3: their better seasons over the last five six years. I

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. That's another story for another day. But

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Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills, they suffered yet another another playoff loss.

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Speaker 3: And next year when the Buffalo Bill's got a camp

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Speaker 3: and Josh Allen gets under center, he's gonna be thirty

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Speaker 3: So join the club with Joe Burrow joined that club,

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Speaker 3: Josh really so. The lost yesterday, and the loss came

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Speaker 3: with a lot of controversy Denver's thirty three thirty overtime

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Speaker 3: Sew McDermott, Do we have the coach? Do we have coach?

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Speaker 3: Can we hear what he had to say on that

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Speaker 6: I called a time out to try and slow it down.

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Speaker 6: It would just it would seem logical to me. The

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Speaker 4: That you could call that a reception by Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 5: But to me, it look, I don't know what all

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Speaker 4: It's not a catch if he doesn't finish for the

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Speaker 4: the flag. Now his was closer to being like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, we can let that go. But the last

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Speaker 4: I mean so, I mean, like, yeah, there's something to

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Speaker 4: be inconsistent. We don't like the stoppaging play because it

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Speaker 5: They're not a lot of flags.

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Speaker 4: They let people play unless it's egregious and both of

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Speaker 4: playing Manda Man. Sean Payton was obviously trying to take

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Speaker 3: Well, I will tell you this much. Take a whine

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna win games when you have five turnovers

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Speaker 4: That's extremely difficult. I feel like I feel like I let

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Speaker 5: It's a long season.

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Speaker 4: I hate what ended, and that's uh, let's go stick

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Speaker 3: I tell you what you hear that you gotta feel

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Speaker 4: No, it certainly hurts, and I feel for him to

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Speaker 4: Against the Broncos, I feel like he and his teammates

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Speaker 4: the interception that was controversial in those things. But let's

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Speaker 4: be clear, the Buffalo Bills tricked that game off. The

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Speaker 5: So Sean McDermot and everyone can be upset.

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Speaker 4: They gave the ball away five times, four of those

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Speaker 5: That's why they lost.

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Speaker 4: So I give Bo Knicks a ton of credit because

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Speaker 4: But here's why I give Sean Payton credit for handling

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Speaker 4: But it's not over for the Broncos. This is just

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Speaker 3: Right And you know what, this year, to me, the

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Speaker 3: quarterback is the most important position right now in football,

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Speaker 3: let's move along now, because we have asked Bucky in

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Speaker 3: about ten twelve minutes from now. But the National Championship

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Speaker 3: game is said for Monday night in Miami with the

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Speaker 3: Hurricanes of Miami University against the Hooshis of Indiana, and

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Speaker 3: they have there have been some questions with the overnight

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Speaker 3: success of the Hoosias, okay, and they were asked those

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Speaker 3: questions by our own Brady Quinn and Brady Quinn is

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Speaker 3: on many of these Fox sporots Whady Affiliates daily at

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Speaker 3: six a m. Eastern with Jonas Knox and LeVar Arrington

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Speaker 3: and the two pros and a cup of Joe. And

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Speaker 3: here's what Brady had to say about the Indiana Hoosiers.

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Speaker 8: Mackgan, we had him, We had literally there you go

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Speaker 8: and stayed at him. Had they make the plays down

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Speaker 8: the stretch? Yeah, so's there's some people out there who

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Speaker 8: like floating this conspiracy theory, and I'll just I'll address

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Speaker 8: this because this is what happens. I think when you

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Speaker 8: see a team that's so dominant or beating teams and

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Speaker 8: changing narratives right like they're the only team that's gotten

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Speaker 8: a buy in the playoff in the last two years.

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Speaker 8: They expanded that has moved on. That has won and

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Speaker 8: moved on. So they changed that in narrative because everyone's like, well,

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Speaker 8: if you get a buy, it's not to your advantage.

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Speaker 4: You know you're gonna want to buy.

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Speaker 8: Well, Indiana changed that, and then if you looked at

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Speaker 8: the rematches, at least of the power for teams not

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Speaker 8: you know, Ole miss playing Tulaine again.

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Speaker 3: All right, that was Brady Quinn on his podcast and

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Speaker 3: before the season began, buccket you know that no one

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Speaker 3: saw Indiana anywhere near the national title conversation. And it's

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Speaker 3: been fifty eight years since to who's his last one

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Speaker 3: a Big Ten championship, let alone compete for a national title.

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Speaker 3: So the rivalry and the fans have held back. They're

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Speaker 3: accusing Indiana of cheating during this historic run. And what's

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Speaker 3: your take about all of a sudden Indiana zooms to

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Speaker 3: the top of college football. My thing is that Kurt

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Speaker 3: Signetti had won anywhere he went elon James Madison's winning now,

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Speaker 3: but all of a sudden, now the skeptist are saying

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Speaker 3: that Indiana's cheating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't say the cheating. I don't know how

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Speaker 4: you accuse him of cheating. I think what he's done

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Speaker 4: is he has a recipie in a formula that has been.

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Speaker 5: Easily repeatable wherever he's gone.

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Speaker 4: And some of Indiana's rise to prominence has been jump

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Speaker 4: started by the fact he was able to bring over

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Speaker 4: thirteen guys from James Madison when he originally came over

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Speaker 4: two years ago, and those guys formed the core.

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Speaker 5: And look, we.

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Speaker 4: Can talk about like what they do x's and o's,

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Speaker 4: but from a cultural standpoint, by bringing those guys over,

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Speaker 4: he was able to get the culture jump started because

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Speaker 4: he had a crew of guys that already knew the

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Speaker 4: expectations and everybody could follow their lead. And what happened

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Speaker 4: last year's success like jumping onto the scene, and even

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Speaker 4: though they lost in the playoffs, they got a taste

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Speaker 4: of it. Well, they had a lot of players come back.

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Speaker 4: They drop in a quarterback in Mendoza. They have a

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Speaker 4: system that is well thought out, carefully constructed, as time

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Speaker 4: tested because the coordinators offensive and defensive coordinators have been

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Speaker 4: with him throughout this entire journey from small college ball

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Speaker 4: all the way up, and so they just understand who

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Speaker 4: they are and they do a great job of teaching.

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Speaker 4: I would say that he should get even more credit

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Speaker 4: for the coaching job that he's done and the fact

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Speaker 4: that he's playing with the more experienced and mature group

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Speaker 4: of players. People are acting like he's playing with thirty

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Speaker 4: year olds. That's not what he's doing. But he is

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Speaker 4: playing with a bunch of fourth and fifth year seniors.

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Speaker 4: And as we've seen in March Madness, the older teams,

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Speaker 4: the more experienced teams, are the ones that win because

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Speaker 4: no talent, no matter how talented the eighteen year old,

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Speaker 4: the five star eighteen year old is, he cannot match

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Speaker 4: up physically with the twenty three year old guy who

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Speaker 4: has played a bunch of snaps at a collegiate level.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the question that's been floated out there now they

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Speaker 3: say it's odd that now Indiana, they've had four games

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Speaker 3: this year with the first or second play of the

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Speaker 3: game for them defensively has been a pick six. Okay.

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Speaker 3: And there's a thought or an idea, they say, and

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Speaker 3: it's been floated out on social media that they might

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Speaker 3: have some coaches leaking this stuff out because they've got

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Speaker 3: someone on their defensive staff who has a cyber intelligence background.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means. I really don't.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying that there are coaches in the coaching

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Speaker 3: profession are out there to help out Indiana. Is that

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Speaker 3: what it is? But they did ask but Elliott, the

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator of Indiana, and they talked about the interception

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Speaker 3: against Oregon. When cornerback de Angelo Pons that pick on

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Speaker 3: the first play from the scrimmage, he said that they

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Speaker 3: already knew and it tells an Oregon's offense and defensive

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Speaker 3: film sessions. They study, that's what they do, said Pons.

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Speaker 3: Knew what was going to happen. He read the quarterback's eyes,

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Speaker 3: he recognized the receiver's alignment, and he recognized the release,

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Speaker 3: and he broke on the ball. That's it. They studied,

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Speaker 3: They study hard. That's what they do.

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Speaker 4: That is what they do. And you know why they're

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Speaker 4: able to do it is because those guys have been

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Speaker 4: around the block a few times. When you're Pons and

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Speaker 4: you're a senior and you've been in college football four

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Speaker 4: or five years, you've seen all the things that you

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Speaker 4: can see. You begin to understand what we talk about

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Speaker 4: a dB HASH split alignment, meaning where a player a

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Speaker 4: wide receiver alignes in relation to where the ball is

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Speaker 4: on the hash marks can tell you a lot about

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Speaker 4: what route you can anticipate. So on those plays it

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Speaker 4: was a condensed split. It was tight. You can see

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Speaker 4: where it related to Normally, if you're lined up tighter,

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Speaker 4: that means you're gonna run an outbreaking route. You line

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Speaker 4: up wider, you're gonna run an end breaking route. He

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Speaker 4: was sitting there playing the route, and also the zone

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Speaker 4: that they had called had him playing in the flat.

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Speaker 4: And so they just do a great job of disguising

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Speaker 4: and understanding where they fit in the defense. And to me,

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Speaker 4: I think they just are great at executing what they're

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Speaker 4: asked to do, more so than some highly advanced cybersecurity

588
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: tactic that they're stealing plays and those things. Everything is

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Speaker 4: on tape for you to see. Is your job to

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Speaker 4: pick up the tails, meaning the clues to let you

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Speaker 4: know what is about to happen based on anything.

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Speaker 5: Line I meant.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you can see receivers break the huddle and you

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Speaker 4: can tell the ball that's going to do because they're

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Speaker 4: rubbing their hands or they grabbed a towel, or an

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Speaker 4: offensive lineman sets very light on his fingertips so you

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Speaker 4: know he's about to pass it, or pull all those

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Speaker 4: things that they're on the tape. Your job as a

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Speaker 4: coach and players to uncover it so he can give

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Speaker 4: you an advantage.

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Speaker 3: Okay, before our friends and Hoosier fans on twelve sixty

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Speaker 3: AM in Indianapolis called crazy, let's just say this. The

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Speaker 3: level of detail is nothing new on the coach course Signetti.

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Speaker 3: His program takes and this is what's been written about him.

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Speaker 3: His program takes an almost obsessive approach to preparation. He's

606
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Speaker 3: constantly self scouting, he's constantly breaking tendencies and hunting for

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Speaker 3: any small giveaway opponents might show. And there's been no

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Speaker 3: evidence of wrongdoing, no NCAA investigation, And at least one

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Speaker 3: coach who faced Indiana this year brushed the room his

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Speaker 3: office Asdine quote Asenine saying the who's a really fing

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Speaker 3: good that's what the coach said, and extremely well coached.

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Speaker 3: And I believe I believe that. I mean, look, there's

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Speaker 3: jealousy out there. Everybody wants to knock down the guy

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Speaker 3: on top. Indiana's on top right now, and there's a

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Speaker 3: reason they're on top. That got good football coaches and

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Speaker 3: good football players, and they work hard at it. That's

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Speaker 3: what they do.

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Speaker 5: That is what they do, and that's what makes it

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Speaker 5: so tough.

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Speaker 4: And people are having a tough time figuring out how

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Speaker 4: the Hoosiahs are so good. And I would say a

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Speaker 4: lot of it is coaching. When I watched them play

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Speaker 4: Oregon both times, even Dan Lanny talked about them being

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Speaker 4: out coached. And it's the execution. You don't see them.

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Speaker 4: We talk about beating themselves. You don't see them have

626
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Speaker 4: missed assignments or blown coverage that lead to big plays.

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Speaker 4: They're a very good tackling team. They do a really

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Speaker 4: good job in the preesta phase of moving around on defense. Offensively,

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Speaker 4: they run a system that is quarterback friendly, easy to execute.

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Speaker 4: They do a great job of getting the ball to

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Speaker 4: play makers. They have older playmakers that have made their

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Speaker 4: way up. It is a really good team that can

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Speaker 4: get at you and do it a ton And it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be interesting to see how they play against Miami

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Speaker 4: because Miami's defensive coordinator work with Signetti at Jamu used

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Speaker 4: to be as defensive coordinator, has a familiarity with the

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Speaker 4: head coach and the offensive coordinator. They run variations of

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Speaker 4: the scheme that they employ. It will be a really

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Speaker 4: good matchup and I'm excited to see it. I think

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Speaker 4: this is exactly what college football needed. We needed some

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Speaker 4: new names in the puzzle. And it's interesting since the

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Speaker 4: money has been above board and everyone's spending money, it's

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Speaker 4: interesting how the new teams pop up as opposed to

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Speaker 4: the old teams that were always there, i e.

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Speaker 5: The SEC And it seemingly.

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Speaker 4: Is a correlation between, oh, well, you can't cheat, these

647
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Speaker 4: teams can't pop up, and so it's been.

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Speaker 5: Refreshing to see new teams pop up.

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Speaker 4: And do it.

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Speaker 5: And I'm excited about the championship game on Monday.

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Speaker 3: I am too. I tell you what. The one thing

652
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Speaker 3: I'm not too happy about is the game is in Miami.

653
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Speaker 3: Is kind of a home game for Miami. But it

654
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Speaker 3: just happened to work out that there like that. It's

655
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Speaker 3: a happenstance right there. But you talk about the money situation,

656
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Speaker 3: everybody's talking about, like Ohio State had thirty five million

657
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Speaker 3: dollars for their roster. You know what they paid in

658
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Speaker 3: the year. Years past, they were paying under the table.

659
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Speaker 3: At least now they're paying over the table. It's legal,

660
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Speaker 3: there's no difference, right They were given out the bagmen.

661
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Speaker 3: Years ago they were doing illegal payments, so now at

662
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Speaker 3: least it's it's upfront. But the point of the matter is,

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Speaker 3: if you're upset about anything, you should be upset about

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Speaker 3: the college basketball. And I said money is the root

665
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Speaker 3: of all evil? Whose college basketball right now? With the

666
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Speaker 3: FAI I claimed more than twenty nine games were fixed

667
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Speaker 3: in twenty three twenty four and in twenty four to

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Speaker 3: twenty five, one of the biggest gambling conspiracies in American

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Speaker 3: sports history. Why because the guys of the players at

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Speaker 3: the big schools are getting money. And the schools right

671
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Speaker 3: now that are kind of cited are schools that maybe

672
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Speaker 3: these kids are not getting big in il money, so

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Speaker 3: they were approached by the gamblers to throw the games.

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Speaker 3: That's basically what's happening right now. You've got schools like

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Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan involved with the situation. I mean schools that

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Speaker 3: you never would have believed that would be involved in

677
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Speaker 3: gambling and throwing games. Nickels State, Tulane, East Carolina, Northwestern State,

678
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Speaker 3: to Caine, Saint Louis Lassell. That's why, because these kids

679
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Speaker 3: are not making big nil money, so the gamblers could

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Speaker 3: approach them, right Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's what it is. It's not.

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Speaker 4: Fair across the board when it comes to the amount

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Speaker 4: of money that you can give up. So you're seeing

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Speaker 4: some of that happen, and it's going to happen because

685
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Speaker 4: there's so many different things factors that have gone into it.

686
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Speaker 4: Daily fantasy kids, having more access to gambling on their phone,

687
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Speaker 4: all that plays into it. So it was only a

688
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Speaker 4: matter of time before those things started to happen.

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Speaker 3: How does it stop and what does it do for

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Speaker 3: the credibility of the sport? Right now? When you're watching

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Speaker 3: a game like yesterday Cincinnati University, since I beat the

692
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Speaker 3: number two team in the country, Iowa State, is there

693
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Speaker 3: any question people not scratching, like, how does that happen?

694
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Speaker 3: Right now? I mean, there's gotta be some credibility problems

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Speaker 3: in the game itself.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know about credibility. I just think

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Speaker 5: it's tough.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's tough right now because the talent

699
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Speaker 4: is even across the board now, everyone's not just loaded

700
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Speaker 4: up going to the blue bloods. That's just made it

701
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Speaker 4: where you're gonna have more upsets in those things. But

702
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Speaker 4: the gamblers are gonna be there because of the things

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Speaker 4: that we have. It's not even they're looking. Guys are

704
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Speaker 4: looking for quick money and they find themselves getting jammed

705
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Speaker 4: up with some of these gamblers and bookies and those things.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Fermer.

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Speaker 3: We're live for the Fox Bus Radio studios. And of

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Speaker 3: course everyone has questions because there's only one man with

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Speaker 3: the answers. Ask Bucky, all right, ass Bucky right around

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Speaker 3: the bend right now, in about twelve minutes before the

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Speaker 3: top of the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday. He

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Speaker 3: is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, and we're live from

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Speaker 3: the Fox Bus Radio students. It's time for ask Bucky

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Speaker 3: Brandon Deutsch? Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 4: Let's do it?

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Speaker 3: All right, Bucky, you got Brandon putting you on the

717
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Speaker 3: hot seat right now.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it done, alrighty So forty nine Ers linebacker

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Speaker 2: Eric Hendricks, he was praised on TV last week for

720
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Speaker 2: being very special, played pretty well against the Sea Oks

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Speaker 2: Agon though I don't know if anyone truly played pretty

722
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Speaker 2: well when you give up forty one points. But I digress.

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Speaker 2: Why are the forty nine Ers his fourth team in

724
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Speaker 2: the past four years, Bucky, he's.

725
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Speaker 4: An older player despite going to one Pro Bowl. Sometimes, man,

726
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: when you're older player, it's hard to stick around. And

727
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Speaker 4: he does show some signs of decline in terms of athleticism,

728
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Speaker 4: waning speed in those things. But what you lose in athleticism,

729
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Speaker 4: you can gain an experience and expertise. And for Robot

730
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Speaker 4: solid in that defense of simplified defense, he's allowed to

731
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Speaker 4: play faster because he knows what's going on. He doesn't

732
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Speaker 4: have to think. That's why he's able to play as

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Speaker 4: a veteran player.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, all right, I got another one. Indiana. They've

735
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Speaker 2: been known or they've been criticized the last few weeks

736
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Speaker 2: of having an older roster. They signed Billy Gowers, an

737
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Speaker 2: Australian punter via the Transfer Bolder Portal. He's twenty nine,

738
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Speaker 2: almost ready for social Security. According to Andy, what are

739
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Speaker 2: your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Lookiamy, that's pretty common signing an Australian kicker and punter.

741
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Speaker 4: That's kind of what they do in terms of being

742
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Speaker 4: twenty nine. If he's others to play like, that's what

743
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Speaker 4: it is. I don't think anyone is really gonna be

744
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Speaker 4: fussing over a twenty nine year old punter. It would

745
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Speaker 4: be different if he was a traditional position player, but

746
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Speaker 4: a kicker punter, no one really cares about it like that.

747
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Speaker 3: Buckay, I got one for you. I don't want to

748
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Speaker 3: bring up any bad memories about the Buffalo game last

749
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Speaker 3: week with the Jacksonville Jaguars. But after the game last week,

750
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Speaker 3: Lynn Jones an assistant editor with the Jacksonville Times. She

751
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Speaker 3: was in that postgame media session after the loss of

752
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Speaker 3: the Bills, and she shocked the media world by praising

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Speaker 3: coach Liam Cone in front of the group and they

754
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Speaker 3: all gasped. It went viral because you know, there's no

755
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Speaker 3: cheering of the press box, and there's a situation where

756
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Speaker 3: you ask questions, not really command someone. What's your thought

757
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Speaker 3: on I thought it was beautiful, I really did. But

758
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Speaker 3: what's your thought on that move with Lynn Jones?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Look, I thought it was overblown by the people that

761
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Speaker 4: were weighing in. I think you have to be in

762
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Speaker 4: that area to understand. Lynn Jones speaks for the people

763
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Speaker 4: who works for an independent African American paper. She was

764
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Speaker 4: just Look if you saw Liam in that moment, very

765
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Speaker 4: much like you heard Josh Allen. He was distraw and despondent,

766
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Speaker 4: and I think in her grandmotherly nature, she felt that

767
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Speaker 4: she gave him basically a virtual hug by throwing praise. Look,

768
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Speaker 4: I think the reporters that were up at arms need

769
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Speaker 4: to get over themselves, like we all do a great

770
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Speaker 4: job in terms of that, but there are a lot

771
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Speaker 4: of whack questions that are lobbed out in these pressers.

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Speaker 5: And Liam, it was at the six.

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Speaker 4: Minute mark, and do you know that there were any

774
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Speaker 4: other questions after that that He's they have twelve minutes

775
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Speaker 4: and no one else had anything.

776
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Speaker 5: They had exhausted all the questions, so it was fine.

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Speaker 2: All right, I got one morning, and he's gonna like

778
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Speaker 2: this one. John Armall won a Super Bowl right fired

779
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: by the Ravens. Mike Tomlin won a Super Bowl fired

780
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Speaker 2: by the Steelers. Covin Stefanski, two time Coach of the Year,

781
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Speaker 2: fired but then got hired. It looks like by the Falcons.

782
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: Yet the lone coach in that AFC North Division, Zach

783
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Speaker 2: Taylor the Bengals, remains. How does that happen?

784
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Speaker 4: Because the Bengals don't pay coaches that don't work for them,

785
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Speaker 4: and they refuse to pay him being fired, so whenever

786
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Speaker 4: his contract ends, that's when they'll have a parting of

787
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Speaker 4: the ways. But the Bengals are cheap. Now, I will

788
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 4: say this about Kevin Stefanski. I am blown away by

789
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Speaker 4: the love that he gets on the street for being

790
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Speaker 4: a good coach. I am blown away. I know he's

791
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Speaker 4: a two time Coach of the Year, but his record

792
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Speaker 4: is upside down. He's had two winning seasons out of six.

793
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Speaker 4: I don't get it. I'm being honest with you. I

794
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: don't get it. But maybe it turns out better. And

795
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Speaker 4: Atlanta didn't din in Cleveland because I haven't seen any

796
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Speaker 4: of the magical, mystical stuff that he's supposed to bring.

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Speaker 3: All Right, I got a football question, obviously a field

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Speaker 3: question for you. The Packers quarterback carrying through Valentine he

799
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Speaker 3: was celebrating last week he had accept it a Caleb

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Speaker 3: Williams pass at his own team's twelve yard line in

801
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Speaker 3: a playoff game. Okay, he was tackled by the Bears,

802
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: but Williams from Green Bay's forty through the pass on

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Speaker 3: fourth down. Now, if Valentine simply just let the ball drop,

804
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Speaker 3: the Packers would have had the ball first and ten

805
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Speaker 3: on their own forty instead of their own twelve. Why

806
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Speaker 3: didn't he do that? I know, the spur of the moment.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he was shot or is he just stupid? I

808
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Speaker 3: don't get it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess time score situation. Like I'm honestly, sometimes

810
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: in the game, in the moment, you don't think about it.

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Speaker 4: On fourth now, end of game, hail Mary situations. We

812
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: talked about that, but we just don't talk about like

813
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Speaker 4: in the middle of the game, like hey man, drop it,

814
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Speaker 4: don't pick it. Like here's the other thing. That's the reality,

815
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Speaker 4: and every interception matter is when it comes to negotiating

816
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Speaker 4: your contract the next time around. And so you want

817
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Speaker 4: them all. You want them all. And because people don't

818
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Speaker 4: remember how you got him, they just remembered they look

819
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Speaker 4: at the stadline that you got him. So sometimes I

820
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 4: can play a part in it. You just go and

821
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Speaker 4: get him whever it's there.

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Speaker 3: I'll give it. I'll give Valentine a benefit of doubt.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he was thinking about his stats with

824
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Speaker 3: the interception, and I don't think he was thinking clearly

825
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Speaker 3: about getting the ball on the forty instead of the twelve.

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Speaker 3: The ball was in his hands, he adccepted it. That's

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Speaker 3: what you do, and you know, an interceptions and an interception

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Speaker 3: still the team takes over. That's basically what it's all about.

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Speaker 3: So that's what you do. Yeah, you gotta take it.

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Speaker 3: You got to score, take it, take it.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I never knew that interceptions count on the contract.

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, whatever you do, it's like like ratings

834
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Speaker 4: and clicks and downloads, it all counts. And so that's

835
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Speaker 4: why guys are picking off. And even though we tell

836
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Speaker 4: guys a knock it down on the hill, Mary, they're

837
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Speaker 4: like coach, they all count.

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Speaker 3: There we go, Bucket Brooks, Andy Fumman, he was wrong,

839
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Speaker 3: Honey admits it. That has so much more aware How

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Speaker 3: Fox Football Sunday coming up here next? Oh, the one

841
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: big question for Monday night. That's coming right out. Good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Football Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman.

843
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Speaker 3: Of course we're broadcasting live on the Fox Sports Radio studios,

844
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Speaker 3: and of course as well, be sure to subscribe to

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Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: thumbs up. I kind of comment the way, let us

849
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Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, mister football, how are you. What's going on?

852
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Speaker 3: It's a great time of year to be a football fan.

853
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, a great time of year. You love playoff football.

854
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 4: You have college football playoffs, the National Championship on Monday,

855
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Speaker 4: you have the NFL playoffs.

856
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 5: Look yesterday and today. So it's a great time of year.

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Speaker 5: Love it.

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Speaker 3: You know what, you talk football. But I gotta go

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Speaker 3: back for a second. I heard Steve the Sega with

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Speaker 3: the sports update at the top of the hour, the

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Speaker 3: ant man Anthony ed which puts in fifty five for

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Speaker 3: Minnesota yesterday they lost the game. You know, I'm listening

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Speaker 3: to like these accomplishments and it just rolled off your tongue.

864
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: To me, that's amazing. I mean, you put that fifty

865
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: five points for a backcourt guy. I mean some of

866
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: the greatest things in sports. You're throwing three touchdowns, running

867
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 3: for over one hundred yards in a game, I mean,

868
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: hitting four home runs, pitching on no hitter. These are

869
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: accomplishments we just mentioned. But you know you played the game.

870
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: To me, you're probably more in awe hearing about these

871
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: accomplishments than a schmuck like me. I mean, I just

872
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: read them off and say, well, he did this to this.

873
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 3: But with you, it's like you got to be saying

874
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: to yourself, Man, Anthony Edams, fifty five, I would have

875
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: loved to have seen that, because that's one hell of

876
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: an accomplishment. Fifty five points And I didn't tell you

877
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: how many shots he took. I don't care. He's scored

878
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: fifty five points in an NBA game. That's that's pretty

879
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: damn good.

880
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be a certain sense of

881
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 4: respect that maybe a player will give to another player

882
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 4: when you see them do things that are uncommon in

883
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: the league because you understand that he's playing against the

884
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 4: best of the best. To drop fifty on the best

885
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: of the best in the world is a tremendous accomplishment,

886
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: and to do it at a skill level. And if

887
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: you go into an NBA game, you said, either course

888
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 4: at or in the arena where you really can see

889
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: how big these guys are. Yeah, nothing short of remarkable.

890
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 4: Hats off to Anthony. Ra was on a great night.

891
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm hearing stories that these guys that we

892
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: talked about bow Nicks playing with the injury. I'm seeing

893
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: the guys going to the sideline, yes stay getting oxygen.

894
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: You know, the average fan doesn't care. They pin the

895
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 3: stands with the cameras during the games, and you see

896
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: half of these guys that are drunk with beer in

897
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: their hand. I mean, it's like twelve degrees outside the

898
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: drinking beer. I don't know why, but they are. They're

899
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: drinking beer, and like they're booing and they're yelling. And

900
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: I saw some of the Buffalo fans in the stands yesterday,

901
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: It's like back off. I mean, these guys they get

902
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 3: paid big money, but you know what, they are the show.

903
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: They deserve it. They deserve that money. You know, if

904
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: there's money to be had and you're splitting up a pie,

905
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: you know what's the game all about? The game is

906
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: all about these guys. It's not about the owners or

907
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: anybody else. They are the performers and the story. You know,

908
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: you go to a concert, that's the performer. They get

909
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: the big money. Athletes are performers. Sorry to say it,

910
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 3: that's just the way they are. Sometimes they don't perform

911
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: that well. You know, James Cooks had a couple of

912
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: drops yesterday, you know, Josh Allen, you know it didn't

913
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: have a good day. Two interceptions and four turnovers, but

914
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: they still are the performance. That's just the way it is.

915
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's still there, and that's part of

916
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 4: what it is, you know that drives you like you

917
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 4: have to be in the arena. You have to be unafraid,

918
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 4: unbothered by the outside opinions when you step in there,

919
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 4: because you know what you're doing. You're taking on a

920
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: great challenge and risk in putting yourself out there at

921
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: a time when so many other people won't do it

922
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 4: or are unable to, and so you can't worry about

923
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: the criticism. You just got to put your best foot forward.

924
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 4: You got to put your best effort out there, and

925
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 4: you have to be able to live with the results.

926
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: No doubt. And now, look, I'm going to say this. Now,

927
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm going to put the spotlight on you, Bucky bro

928
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: because it takes a big man, a real big man,

929
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: to admit that he's wrong, and it takes even a

930
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: bigger one to write about it and now talk about it.

931
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: That's why, Bucky Brooks, I'm saying this, but I'm not

932
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: embarrassing you. Bucky Brooks is the best in the business

933
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: when it comes to talking football, and I don't want

934
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: to hype you up too much because what's going to happen.

935
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: I'm going to lose you as a partner because people

936
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: are going to start realizing how good you are and

937
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: how intelligent you are at the game of football. I

938
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: watched the CBS pregame show yesterday and I was wondering,

939
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: what's going to happen because Matt Ryan wasn't there. He

940
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: left to become president of the Atlanta Falcons. And I'm

941
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: saying that I think Kirk Cousins was doing the show,

942
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 3: and I'm saying feeling yeah, And I'm saying, why isn't

943
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks on there? You know? But is it your agent?

944
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: I should have been your agent because you would have

945
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: been on there. But how does that work? Can you

946
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: explain that to me? Does CBS reach out to guys

947
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: or is there a pool of guys or agents call

948
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: the TV? How does that work?

949
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 5: Well, there are a few different ways that it goes.

950
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 4: First, prominent players always get first dips, first bite to

951
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: day apple. Prominent players, particularly quarterbacks always get that because

952
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: there is a belief in TV and involved that the

953
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: quarterbacks are the smartest people, so they have a feel

954
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: for the game unlike others. I would say that's not

955
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 4: always true, but that's how it is. So first, prominent

956
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 4: players go to the front of the line. Second, you'll

957
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 4: have agents who will pitch new clients to people, and

958
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: you'll go to auditions or you do like freebies or

959
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 4: guest appearances to get yourself out there so people can

960
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: see what it is, so you can get a feel

961
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: for the business, the executives can get a feel for you.

962
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: And then it's about trying to balance out when it's

963
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 4: time to make decisions, it's trying to balance out the

964
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 4: group that's at the table, you know. So sometimes it'll

965
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: be a host, a former coach, an offensive player, a

966
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 4: defensive player, or whatever. Sometimes it's that, and then maybe

967
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: you mix in a personality with the group. But you're

968
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: trying to get the right group to balance off one

969
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 4: another that has the chemistry to make it educational but

970
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 4: also entertaining, because that's what it has to be. It

971
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,479
Speaker 4: has to be entertaining while you're teaching me the game,

972
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 4: and some people have the ability to make that happen.

973
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 4: To take the x's and o's and to make them

974
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: fun and come to life, or to take complex and

975
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 4: convey it to the viewer in a simplistic fashion. It

976
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: requires a lot to get it done. And yeah, there

977
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: are a lot of people out there, a lot of

978
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 4: former players, a lot of people on TV that want

979
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: to be on bigger platforms, and so it's a very

980
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 4: competitive field.

981
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: All right, So I get the quarterback situation. We're going

982
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: to say, I had Boomer and I love Boomer. When

983
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: I got rid of Boomer, they thought maybe he was

984
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: too old, so.

985
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: The older Yeah, I mean for a long time it

986
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: was him and Phil Simms. Now that's what's odd is

987
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 4: to have two quarterbacks on the thing. Like you typically

988
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: like to balance it out, right. You want a quarterback

989
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: to give the offensive perspective. You may want a coach

990
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: to talk about the entire team, how you get the

991
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: team ready. You may have a defensive player to balance

992
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: it all out. So now you have all the person

993
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: infectives covered. But yeah, like sometimes it can age out.

994
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 4: You're trying to be hip and young, and I mean

995
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 4: the dynamics are changing, you know, and the linear television phase.

996
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: So they went from Boomer to Matt Ryan, and now

997
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they got I guess Kirk Cousins.

998
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: But I wasn't impressed. I mean I like him, I

999
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: really do. I watch him on Hard Knocks. I thought

1000
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: he was great, but I don't Maybe it's for a show,

1001
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 3: maybe it's nervous, I don't know. But you got to

1002
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: get a guy with a little more life, a little

1003
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: more personality, you know.

1004
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean, like it's a tricky thing, as

1005
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 4: you and know, trying to tell someone an aspiring radio host,

1006
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 4: how difficult this business can be, right, Like, it's tough

1007
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: to manage all the things that you have to manage

1008
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: when you're hosting and throwing back and forth and timing

1009
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 4: and people in your ear telling a you got to

1010
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: rap and all this. There's a lot to it. And

1011
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 4: what you're hoping is that your natural personality comes out

1012
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 4: on camera while you're juggling all the responsibilities and those things.

1013
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: And the only way that you become I would say,

1014
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 4: good at TV is you have to do a lot

1015
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 4: of TV, just like the only way to become good

1016
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 4: at radio, you have to do a lot of radio.

1017
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 3: The more reps like the reps, Yeah.

1018
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 4: The more reps leads to that experienced parlads into expertise

1019
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 4: and all that other stuff. But it takes time, and

1020
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 4: people a lot of times don't have the patience. That's

1021
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 4: why you need to be ready for the big job

1022
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 4: when you have an opportunity to handle the big job.

1023
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: And I think Mike Thomas going to be in that desk.

1024
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: I think he's going to replace the former steel of coach.

1025
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: Because you're talking about age. I enjoy him, I enjoy watching,

1026
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: but I think he's getting up there as well. So

1027
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 3: I think he's mad a guy.

1028
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 4: Yeah he's fifty fifty three, but he's a dynamic personality.

1029
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: And let's be honest, his resume. People can say whatever

1030
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 4: they want about his resume. His resume is right there.

1031
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 4: He's time for wins with Chuck. No, he has a

1032
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: super Bowl on his resume, and once you're a super

1033
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: Bowl champion, they have to call you champ forever. No

1034
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: losing seasons on his ledgers. So when you put him

1035
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 4: I'm on TV. No matter what you think about him,

1036
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 4: he has credibility, so you have to listen. And then

1037
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: when you think about just his way with words, he'll

1038
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 4: be a star on TV and he may never go

1039
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 4: back to coaching. This may be it because he may

1040
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: find Hey, man, it's a lot easier to do this thing.

1041
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 4: I can sit here and work on my weekends and

1042
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 4: I can live my life, my kids, My daughter's his

1043
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: daughter is a gymnast down at Georgia, has two other

1044
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 4: kids on social media. Yeah, yeah, that place. So like

1045
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 4: maybe for him, maybe it's time. And if he gets

1046
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 4: away from it for a year, he may never want

1047
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 4: to come back to the rat race.

1048
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to get too personal. It's none

1049
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: of my business. You're my buddy. But I'll ask you

1050
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: this question, how are you aspiring to get like in

1051
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: a situation like CBS or Fox and on TV or

1052
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: you kind of content what you're doing.

1053
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: Well, I mean you never contend, But like, man, whatever

1054
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 4: path is out there for me, it'll happen. You can't

1055
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 4: run around and chase all those things I have learned, Man,

1056
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 4: be where your feed are. Be really good at this,

1057
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 4: So be great on Sundays with Andy, and if anything

1058
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 4: else comes out of that, it comes out of it.

1059
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 5: But you can't run around, Chason.

1060
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 4: I'll say this, like when we talk about dreams, you're

1061
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 4: already living the dream because you're on Red this is

1062
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 4: a national show. Like you're already doing some cool things.

1063
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 4: I write things that are on a national, big platform.

1064
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: So like, all of this stuff is cool. I do

1065
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 4: TV at Infront Network. All this stuff is cool. Whatever's

1066
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: out there for me, I'd be out there.

1067
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: For me down the line, I think what's gonna hurt?

1068
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: I don't mean to pick or anything, but the fact

1069
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: that the position that you played, I mean, when you

1070
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: think about it, that they want high brow position, they

1071
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: want running backs, they want receivers. Gronk is up there

1072
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: a tight end. They want the position played, you know,

1073
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: the key positions, rather than the secondary position, which is

1074
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: kind of dumb, but that's just the way it is.

1075
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 3: I mean, some of the real facts have been great

1076
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 3: running backs. I don't see them on TV.

1077
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, some of that look, I think in the end,

1078
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 4: because I worked for years with Marshall Falk and your

1079
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: Hall of Fames. Michael Irvin was a wife receive, marsh

1080
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 4: Fulk was the running back, Prime was a DV. Sometimes

1081
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 4: it comes down to what you did as a player,

1082
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 4: being a gold jacket guy, but also how good are

1083
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: you conveying knowledge on TV? Shannon Sharp was excellent, Solomon

1084
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 4: Wilcox who you know very well in Cincinnati was terrific.

1085
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 4: Solomon and Sterling helped Sterling Sharp helped me a ton

1086
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 4: in the TV business.

1087
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 5: There are a lot of good guys that are out there.

1088
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just a matter of getting the right break

1089
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: for people to appreciate you and to blow past some

1090
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: of the stereotypes that exist when it comes to who

1091
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: we think would be good in TV versus who actually

1092
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 4: is good in TV.

1093
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 3: And you know what's funny you talk about the Thursday

1094
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: and Night crew, I mean, really and truly that's a

1095
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: very unusual crew. You got a journeyman quarterback and alignment

1096
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: do doing it.

1097
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 5: So it's uh and Richard Sherman like, that's what you have.

1098
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: Like they opted for I would say they opted for

1099
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: personalities because Ryan Fitzpatrick was a big personality. People behind

1100
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: the scenes were talking about him, kind of be into

1101
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: jokes to the frankster. Richie Sherman was bold and boisterous

1102
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: as a player. Andrew Whitworth, to me, probably comes off

1103
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 4: as a bit of the savant. He can tell you

1104
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: what's going on within the trenches and how it works

1105
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: offensively and defensively. Those things happen and you have Tony Gonzalez,

1106
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: who's the Hall of Fame tied end. So you're trying

1107
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 4: to balance out those things to make sure that it's

1108
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 4: an entertaining watch for the viewer while also being able

1109
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 4: to meet some of the hardcore football heads that are

1110
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: tuning in and those things. It's a balance and it's

1111
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: a constant battle to see if you can get it right.

1112
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 5: As an executive.

1113
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 3: Well, I'm waiting to see you up there on TV

1114
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: prior to the game, and you will be there. I

1115
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: know that, and that's why you're the best. You are

1116
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: the best at what you do.

1117
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 4: I know that.

1118
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: But I'm talking about the clown who does the college

1119
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: draft for the Full Letter Network. He'll never admit a mistake.

1120
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: Most people don't. You did, and you did it on

1121
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: NFL dot Com. I want to go into that for

1122
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: a second because I'm going to give the airways now

1123
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 3: to mister Bucket Brooks. So why would you go public

1124
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: and say I made a mistake? I mean, I mean

1125
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 3: most people wouldn't do that, and you did. You did.

1126
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: The former NFL player that you are, you said that

1127
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: you made a mistake on the I guess evaluation and

1128
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: some of the players of this season ten of them

1129
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 3: in fact, So why would you do that?

1130
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: Look, man, I think part of the job as a

1131
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 4: scout is you have hit some missus guys that you

1132
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 4: make opinions on, and then you have to come back

1133
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 4: and realize, like, oh okay, man, I was off on him.

1134
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: And the best evaluators that I've been they're willing to

1135
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 4: look raise their hand and say, hey, man, I screwed

1136
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: that one up. I thought he would be this based

1137
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 4: on what he had done, but clearly he's something else.

1138
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 4: So let me give him as flowers and give him

1139
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: his just do. I think it's important to do that

1140
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 4: because you need as an evaluator, you need to be

1141
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: accountable for your opinions, and you need to be able

1142
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 4: to honestly reflect and review so you can learn and

1143
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 4: become better the next time around.

1144
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: And some of the player that you listed, I mean,

1145
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 3: you know obviously you weren't alone. I mean, Caleb Williams

1146
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 3: is on that list, and I think he was number

1147
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: one Chicago Bess quarterback, the number one overall pick. And

1148
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: you know he's come to life, maybe because of his coach,

1149
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson. I don't know, but I remember back in

1150
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: the summer didn't he write a book and he said

1151
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 3: that Chicago is a place where quarterbacks going to die.

1152
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 3: I mean really and truly, and now I guess that

1153
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 3: that is not the case. But what what made you

1154
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 3: turn the corner? And what have you seen the Caleb

1155
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: Williams that say well, I didn't know that before.

1156
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 4: His ability to close in the fourth quarter. I think

1157
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: that's really important for all the things that we evaluate

1158
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 4: quarterbacks on. And I know people don't like quarterback wins

1159
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: as a stat but it matters. Can you close the

1160
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 4: game out when your team needs you in the fourth quarter?

1161
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 4: Seven game winning drives, fourth quarter comebacks, Kayleb Williams.

1162
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 5: We saw look in the playoffs like they were down twenty.

1163
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: One to three. He leads him back and he made

1164
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: plays when the game matter. We can talk about a

1165
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 4: complete is not being what we wanted to be over

1166
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: the course of the regular season, but if you look

1167
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 4: at his fourth quarter statistics and the way that he

1168
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 4: plays in the fourth quarter, you can't deny that he

1169
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 4: has a special.

1170
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 5: Quality to him.

1171
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 4: And when we talk about quarterbacks, and that's why it'd

1172
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 4: be fascinating to watch Fernando Mendoza on Monday Night against

1173
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: Miami if they're in a situation where he's down and

1174
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 4: he has to make some plays what we expect from

1175
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 4: elite quarterbacks in the fourth quarter.

1176
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 5: That's when you're at your best.

1177
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: Anybody can do it when the game is kind of

1178
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 4: like whatever, it's not, But when it's under pressure, your

1179
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 4: team is down and they need you to make a

1180
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 4: series of throws, can you make them? Can you come

1181
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 4: through in the clutch. Keathy Williams has displayed that he

1182
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 4: can do that. I didn't know if he would be

1183
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 4: able to stay within the confines of the system that

1184
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson has, But what I'm seeing is when he

1185
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 4: plays out of structure, when the game is on the line,

1186
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 4: he has a knack for making plays.

1187
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because you're not alone. A lot

1188
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: of people felt the same way that he was going

1189
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 3: to be a bust. And I'll tell you what I

1190
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: thought that. I'll tell you why I.

1191
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: Didn't think he was going to be a bust. I

1192
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: didn't think he was a bus.

1193
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: I didn't tell you what because the quarterback position is

1194
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: a leadership position. And I remember he played in the

1195
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: USC and after a game he went to the stands

1196
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: with his parents and started crying, and I thought the

1197
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: NFL scouts are going to see that and say, I

1198
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: don't know if I want him to be my leader.

1199
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 3: I don't think he's got leadership qualities, and that I

1200
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: was wrong. I mean, but I'm not going public. I mean,

1201
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: I've just mentioned it now, but a lot of people

1202
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: saw that. I don't think it was a good look

1203
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: on him crying in the stands after a game like that.

1204
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he talked about playing with his dog

1205
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: or his cat or anything like that. There are a

1206
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 4: lot of people that talked about different things. And I

1207
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 4: think what we also have to accept is today's generation

1208
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 4: of the generation of players today, they're different. Whether it's

1209
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: you know, those things that you saw, whether it's like

1210
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 4: whether they paint their fingernails or do anything, whether it's

1211
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: the fashion that they wear to and from the games,

1212
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 4: all of those things are different. But and I heard

1213
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 4: Mike Rabel say that, and I think it's really interesting.

1214
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: He said that I can coach people with different personalities,

1215
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 4: but not different mentalities. If in their heart they are

1216
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 4: all about ball. They love it, they love the competitiveness,

1217
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: the preparation, the process, doesn't really matter where their personality

1218
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 4: is away from the game. But when it comes to playing,

1219
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: are these are they alpha dog competitors? Yes, and I

1220
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 4: can say when I look at Kayler Williams, he's an

1221
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 4: alpha dog competitor on Game bad.

1222
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 3: I'm shocked at the number two guy on your list

1223
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: of ten where you said that you were wrong, and

1224
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 3: I hate to use the term you were wrong, you're

1225
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: just miscalculated. That sounds a little better, really, Derrick Henry.

1226
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you knew this guy was going to be

1227
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 3: there because the guy is like he's like a machine.

1228
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: He really is. But he rush for almost sixteen hundred

1229
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: yards this year.

1230
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 5: He's over thirty.

1231
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: He has a million carries on his ledger, like you

1232
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 4: not to be supposed to be over thirty Russian for

1233
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 4: sixteen hundred yards.

1234
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: But wait a minute, but I saw that move a

1235
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: couch on a commercial for insurance couch.

1236
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 4: Yes, he's doing all those things or whatever, but at

1237
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: that age, this should be a sign of decline. And

1238
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: let's be honest, the Tennessee Titans wouldn't have moved on

1239
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: for Derick Hemery. They thought that Derrick Kmy would be

1240
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: able to do the things that he's doing. You just

1241
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 4: keep waiting for the epic fall off and it just

1242
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 4: hasn't come and so I was wrong. Normally a thirty

1243
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: ish back man they fall off, and they fall off

1244
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 4: in a hurry. Sixteen hundred yards, seventeen touchdowns. Yeah, hats

1245
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 4: off to him. Terrific season.

1246
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: I'll say this, he felt like twenty six yards shy

1247
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: of James Cook's lead leading total of sixteen to twenty

1248
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: one according to your stats. And I will tell you

1249
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 3: this much, if in fact the offensive coordinator of the

1250
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: Baldemore Ravens was a little smarter, he would have broke

1251
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 3: the record this year. He would have got the title

1252
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: because there were several games ended up put the ball

1253
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: in his belly and I should have. And when I

1254
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 3: started doing that towards the end of the season, they

1255
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 3: started winning again. I mean he was left out of

1256
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: the offense on several games. He really was. I think

1257
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: one game he had something like eleven carries.

1258
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 4: Remember, yeah, like it's I mean, it's one of the

1259
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 4: more fascinating things. Why Todd Munket didn't use him, utilize

1260
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 4: him more. And I will say this, the Ravens didn't

1261
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 4: achieve or realize their potential as a team because I

1262
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 4: think they didn't play the way that they should have

1263
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 4: played with the personnel. And I know as an older quarterback,

1264
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson wants to be more of a thrower than

1265
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 4: a runner. But this team has always been in his

1266
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 4: best when they ran the football with not only Derrick Henry,

1267
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 4: but when Lamar Jackson running. And Lamar Jackson hasn't been

1268
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: the same. Some of these minor bumps and bruises and

1269
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 4: injuries have.

1270
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 5: Taken him off the lineup. It's hard, but yeah, Dereck

1271
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 5: Henry is terrific.

1272
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 4: He deserves all of the credit for being a guy

1273
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 4: that nearly captured his third NFL rushing title.

1274
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: Well, it's amazing, it really is. All right, he's Bucket Brooks.

1275
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: Get him on X at Bucket Brooks at Andy Furman,

1276
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 3: FSL will read them, will read, tweet them if they're

1277
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,840
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1279
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1280
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio studios, and we got the blame game

1281
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 3: at the end of this hour. But with one team,

1282
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,680
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1283
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1284
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1285
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Speaker 3: off to the air. Okay, we got the Blame game

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Speaker 3: coming up at about ten minutes from now. But I'm

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Speaker 3: going to do this kind of strange. I know it's

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Speaker 3: Fox Football Sunday, but I'm going to turn the baseball

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Speaker 3: for a minute if I may, If I may, And

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Speaker 3: you can say, why why are you doing that? All right?

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Speaker 3: Because this winter's best free agent is joining the best

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Speaker 3: team in Major League Baseball. Kyle Tucker. Maybe he didn't

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Speaker 3: even hear the guy. Twenty eight year old former Astro

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Speaker 3: and Cubs outfielder has agreed to sign with your team

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Speaker 3: bucket of Dodgers four years, two hundred and forty million

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Speaker 3: dollars and according to my math, I guess that's sixty

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Speaker 3: million a year. All right, So now, the media, here's

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Speaker 3: the story here. Now, the media and the public, they're

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Speaker 3: balking at the Dodgers. They're balking at major League Baseball

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Speaker 3: because they want a salary cat, they want to make

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Speaker 3: baseball more competitive? Is the Dodgers ruining baseball because they

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Speaker 3: got all the money they're doing that? And the usual suspects,

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Speaker 3: the Red Sox, the Yankees, the Dodgers, those are the

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Speaker 3: teams going after this player right now. Okay, But here's

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Speaker 3: my question. Here's the question which has never been brought up,

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Speaker 3: I don't think by anybody else. Remember when Kevin Durant

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Speaker 3: left Oklahoma City to eventually get a ring with the

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Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors, everybody was dumping on Kevin Durant. I

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Speaker 3: want to know who's in fault of here? Is it

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Speaker 3: the system? Is it the Dodges? Is it Kyle Tucker?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't blame Kyle Tucker. If they're going

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Speaker 3: to give him more money, you know, go where the

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Speaker 3: money is. That's what people do. So why are they

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Speaker 3: blaming the Dodgers? And why are they blame me? Major

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Speaker 3: League Baseball? And I know Kevin Durant, he got a

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Speaker 3: lot of heat. He got the heat, but now the

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Speaker 3: Dodgers are getting the heat. So help me out with

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Speaker 3: this situation.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think a big part of it is just

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Speaker 4: the amount of money that the Dodgers are able to

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Speaker 4: spend right now. They've been able to creatively package some

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Speaker 4: of that on deferred deals where they're paying guys later

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Speaker 4: in life for their compensation.

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Speaker 5: But right now, the Dodgers are cash cow.

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Speaker 4: They're everything that the Dallas Cowboys should be. The New

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Speaker 4: York Knickerbockers should be teams in big markets.

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Speaker 5: That have a lot of cachet.

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Speaker 4: They should be able to operate like the Dodgers, and

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers are crushing it because what they're doing is

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Speaker 4: they're collecting all the stars in a way, Andy, whatever

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Speaker 4: reminds me of it reminds me of the old LA

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Speaker 4: Lakers philosophy when the Lakers have done Because let's be honest,

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Speaker 4: there weren't many players that the Lakers drafted and developed.

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Speaker 4: Kobe was won, but normally what the Lakers would do

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Speaker 4: is they would look around the league and say, oh, man,

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Speaker 4: that's a star over there. Let me go.

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Speaker 3: Get Yeah, let me get it.

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Speaker 5: Let me get Kareema d Jabol, let me get oh,

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Speaker 5: you know what, I like that.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's go get whatever prominent star is out there.

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Speaker 4: When they come up, we'll make sure that we get them.

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Speaker 5: And that's what the Dodgers have done.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, it works because in l A

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Speaker 4: l A like stars, we like going to the games,

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Speaker 4: we like knowing who the star players are. We love winning.

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Speaker 4: And right now the Dodgers have done it. And the

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Speaker 4: more they win, the more obsessive it goes to.

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Speaker 5: Winning, uh even more, and.

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Speaker 4: So back to back, maybe trying to make a three

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Speaker 4: peet whatever it is. The Dodgers are willing to spend

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Speaker 4: the money to make it happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. And you know what, by spending

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Speaker 3: their money like that, you do two things. Number One,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna be more competitive. You can probably gonna win.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna win their you know, the Third World Series,

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Speaker 3: no doubt about that, but you're making the fans happy.

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Speaker 3: That's what fans want. They want to support a winner.

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Speaker 3: They love a winner. And when a team wins in

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Speaker 3: a city, and you know this, and the team wins

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Speaker 3: in the market, everybody's upbeat and everybody profits by that.

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Speaker 3: The restaurants, the hotels, everybody who walks around with a

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Speaker 3: step that's kind of a different than when the team.

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Speaker 3: I know what it's like in Cincinnati on Mondays after

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Speaker 3: a Bengals loss, people are down the dumps. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why. You know, they live and die with their teams.

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Speaker 3: That's what they do. But the point of the matter

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Speaker 3: is that when a team wins in a town, it

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Speaker 3: benefits everybody economically, socially, you know, your attitude's better. It's

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Speaker 3: just just a better place to live when they win.

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a better place to live. And the Dodgers,

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Speaker 4: they have gone and even added a little more flavor

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Speaker 4: to the mix. So as you know, La is a

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Speaker 4: very divers city, a lot of different cultures and ethnicities

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Speaker 4: and those things.

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Speaker 5: When you look at the Dodgers team, man, just look at.

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Speaker 4: The mashup of ethn nessities and cultures that you have.

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Speaker 4: You have showne Otani. You know what I'm saying. You

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Speaker 4: have Mookie Bets, you have all of these other players,

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Speaker 4: and so when you go to a Dodgers game, the

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Speaker 4: Dodgers reflect the diversity of the city. And I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying that that was intentional, but i am saying that

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Speaker 4: certainly plays in where they have these them nights, where

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Speaker 4: they have whatever Babblehead Knight for Tani. It is all

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Speaker 4: of Little Tokyo, all of in the stands. And so

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Speaker 4: they have been able to cash out on the field

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Speaker 4: as a championship team, but cash out at the register

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Speaker 4: because they're able to appeal to different parts of the

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Speaker 4: city to come out.

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Speaker 5: To the games and do that and we talk about.

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Speaker 4: Sports entertainment, they have found a way to kind of

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Speaker 4: bridge the gap between those and in keeping the city actively.

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Speaker 5: Involved in a winning program that also looks like the city.

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Speaker 3: But I'm still confused why that this guy is not

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Speaker 3: getting heat, that Kyle Tucker is not getting the heat

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Speaker 3: that Kevin Durant got when Kevin bolted Oklahoma City to

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Speaker 3: basically get a ring with the Golden State Warriors. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's just I think it's the player, not

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Speaker 3: the system as much depending upon who the player is,

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Speaker 3: because he left Oklahoma City and it was not a

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Speaker 3: good look, you know, And most of the people don't

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Speaker 3: even know who the hell Kyle Tucker is. They really don't.

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Speaker 3: They don't follow baseball. I don't think with the fine

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Speaker 3: tooth comb that they follow maybe the NBA or certainly

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Speaker 3: the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, they certainly don't do it like that.

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Speaker 4: But I will say, yeah, there has some KD feel

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Speaker 4: to it in terms of like how he left one

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Speaker 4: team to go to another. But it worked out, and

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Speaker 4: he's gonna have to play because there's gonna be some

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Speaker 4: high leveraged moments where they're gonna need him to play

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Speaker 4: at a high level. But the one thing that's probably

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Speaker 4: appealing to him he doesn't have to do all the

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Speaker 4: heavy lifting by himself. When you play on a team

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Speaker 4: for the Stars and you got Freddy Freeman and Mookie

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Speaker 4: Betts and some of the other guys that can hold

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Speaker 4: their own, well that's exactly what you want. Now I

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Speaker 4: can just come and play freely. That's appealing to some guys.

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Speaker 4: They don't have to do too much.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, it really is. I mean, I just I

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Speaker 3: don't understand why the Dodgers are getting to blame and

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Speaker 3: not the player. But that's you know, that's going to

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Speaker 3: be the story. That's just gonna be the story because

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Speaker 3: the other teams you don't reminds me of that. I know,

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Speaker 3: it's a weird comparison. It reminds me of the Toush Push.

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Speaker 3: Every team in the league is upset of the Toush Push.

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Speaker 3: Why because they can't stop it and they don't do it.

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Speaker 3: So now every team in Major League Baseball is made

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Speaker 3: at the Dodgers because they're spending a lot of money

1442
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 3: and they're winning. That's basically it's envious, jealousy and his stupidity.

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01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 3: That's basically what it is. Maybe it's a big jump

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01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 3: that I'm comparing the tush push in the NFL to

1445
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 3: the Dodgers signing big contracts, but to some extent it

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Speaker 3: is the same. It's just jealousy and envy, that's what

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely some envy there because you know,

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 4: people don't like the fact that they have the cash

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01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 4: to be able to pay for these guys to make

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Speaker 4: it happen.

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01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 5: But if you're a fan, you love it.

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01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 4: You always want to feel like your team is competing

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 4: to win the chip, like they are invested in trying

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 4: to win the entire thing. And you can't question that

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01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 4: when it comes to the Dodgers, man, they are all

1457
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 4: in on trying to get it done because they're invested

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 4: in those pieces.

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Speaker 3: I think it's great. It's funny because again, I live

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Speaker 3: in the Cincinnati area. I mean, everybody's talking about NFL

1461
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 3: playoffs and great games and what their team may be doing.

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Speaker 3: In Cincinnati, they're talking about the draft section area. They're

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Speaker 3: doing the mock drafts. I can't handle it. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't even reached the Super Bowl yet

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Speaker 3: or the division championship games yet, and they're talking draft

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Speaker 3: draft picks. Ninth pick, ten pick, who are they going

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Speaker 3: to go after? Forget it? I mean, come on, I'd

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Speaker 3: rather talk baseball here to talk about draft picks. I mean,

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Speaker 3: but that's just what it basically is. The season's over.

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Speaker 4: Here, yeah, I mean, the season's over. But mock drafts

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01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 4: are a clickbait. And even though we're doing mock drafts

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 4: without even knowing the coach in some instances as a

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Speaker 4: general manager, it doesn't matter. Fans want to see which

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01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 4: players are being tied to their team.

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Speaker 5: The one thing that the league has done.

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Speaker 4: And let's think about the turnarounds that are in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs this year.

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Speaker 5: The Jags, the Bears, the.

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Speaker 4: Patriots, all teams that had double digit losses. They right back,

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Speaker 4: They're right back. They want a division. And you have

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Speaker 4: this quick feel that, man, if we get a first,

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01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 4: a good like a couple of good players, we can

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01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 4: turn this thing around quickly and not only just get

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Speaker 4: back to the postseason, we might be a super Bowl team.

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Speaker 4: That's why the rabid fan base are consuming all the

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Speaker 4: draft content that you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mentioned there's a coach that has an addiction. Okay,

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01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 3: and he took over a team with more losses than

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Speaker 3: any other team in college football. His name is Kurt

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01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 3: Signetia in Indiana. He is a creature of habit. Get this.

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Speaker 3: Every day of every week, he orders rice and beans

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01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 3: and chicken. He skips the rest of the toppings. He

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01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 3: has a slice of guacamole. His order costs him ten

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Speaker 3: dollars and ninety cents, seven hundred and fifty calories at Chipotle.

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Speaker 3: He's got sixty four thousand points at Chipotle, which turns

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 3: out to about sixty four hundred dollars on burrito bowls.

1497
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 3: It's unbelieved every day, and he's got an assistant coach

1498
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: or a team manager that goes out and gets him

1499
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 3: to lunch every day in Bloomington, Indiana Chipotle. He's going

1500
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 3: to be doing national Chipotle commercials pretty soon. I'm sure

1501
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 3: he is.

1502
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 4: But he's very much like his boss and mentor at

1503
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 4: one point, Nick Saban. Nick Saban, He's the same thing

1504
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 4: every day, has a little debbies oatmeal cake at some

1505
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 4: point over the course of the day. That's where they are.

1506
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 4: They are creatures of habit. But you know this an

1507
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 4: I'm sure in your preparation process because I see the

1508
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 4: emails that you send when you come down with the

1509
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 4: rundown and those things. Look, every person who's great at

1510
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 4: their job or their field, they have a routine and

1511
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 4: some structure to how they go about preparing for the

1512
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 4: day or going today. So for Signetti, his habits extend

1513
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 4: beyond what he does when it comes to football. His

1514
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 4: day is very regimented, scheduled. He likes what he likes

1515
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 4: and that works for him, and it works for a

1516
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 4: lot of different people who are kind of built like that,

1517
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 4: those type A personalities. Sometimes they do fall into the

1518
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 4: routine thing when it comes to what they eat, when

1519
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: they eat, where they eat, et cetera, et cetera.

1520
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 3: I can't believe you're comparing me to Kurt Signetti, which

1521
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,839
Speaker 3: is a column, but I thank you for that.

1522
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. Radio.

1523
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 3: I have a list. I have a list every day

1524
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 3: and if I don't check out, if I go crazy,

1525
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 3: I gotta do these crazy things every day. That's what

1526
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,799
Speaker 3: I do. I mean, and I send out stuff to everybody.

1527
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 3: You know. I guess people at Fox Sports Radio know

1528
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 3: that I sent clippings out to people. I mean, I'm

1529
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 3: I'm a big consumer of the postal system. And I'll

1530
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 3: tell you why I say that. And my wife gets

1531
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: on me for that. She says, it shows your age

1532
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 3: that you're ope you snail man. I said, no, no.

1533
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 3: I met a guy yesterday. He's a publisher of a

1534
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 3: nonprofit magazine and I sent the material and he says

1535
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 3: he goes through one hundred and fifty emails a day

1536
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: from nonprofits in the region. And I said, well, that's

1537
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 3: why I kind of emailed to you. But I also

1538
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: mailed to you in the mail, I said, A. It's

1539
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: going to end up in spam sometimes, but b you know,

1540
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 3: you don't have time to read it all, you know,

1541
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 3: and when you get something in the mail, you're going

1542
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: to open it just out of curiosity. You know. It's true.

1543
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 3: You know, when I was on a radio every single

1544
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 3: day back in the day in Cincinnati at seven hundred

1545
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 3: WLW Radio, I would send a thank you note to

1546
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 3: every guest that I would get on, every coach that

1547
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 3: would go on with me, Bobby Knight, Serena Williams, you know,

1548
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 3: whoever was on. I would send Bill Belichick. And that's

1549
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 3: why he developed kind of relationships with these people. You know,

1550
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 3: people take the time out there. I little thank you note.

1551
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 3: I think it goes a long way. I really do.

1552
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 4: So, Yeah, it does.

1553
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 5: It matters well, I.

1554
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 3: Said Signetti a cigar A couple of weeks, cigar, I

1555
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 3: haven't heard back from him.

1556
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 4: But he's no smoking on Monday. He's no smoking on Monday.

1557
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 3: Great, he maybe he will. I hope he does. We'll

1558
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: see what happens there. So we'll see what happens. All right.

1559
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 3: We move on now, he's Bucky Brooks on any Firman.

1560
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 3: We are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and

1561
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 3: of course, the blame game is all right, the blame

1562
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 3: game coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firmer,

1563
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 3: and we have Fox Football Sunday. Fox Sport's ready about

1564
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 3: twelve minutes before the top of the hour. Top of

1565
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 3: the hour will be eight am on the East coast.

1566
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 3: And you know what, the Swollen Dome himself, Mike Harmon

1567
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 3: will be joining Greg Cosell on many of these saying

1568
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio affiliates at eight am Eastern time following

1569
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: us today. But right now it's time for the blame game. Brandon,

1570
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 3: it's you. Let's do it. You're not a liar.

1571
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: Let's well, I'd prefer to be a liar if the

1572
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: Niners had won.

1573
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 4: Maybe.

1574
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 3: You know, you're like everybody, you're a homer. You're stopping already.

1575
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, your team lost. That's just the

1576
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 3: way it is. You're upset that bucket, is it true?

1577
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 3: He's probably more upset than half the players on the team.

1578
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: All they want to do is wait till Tuesday when

1579
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 3: pay day comes. I get that check.

1580
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's Unfortunately, you know, the unfortunate thing is

1581
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: only one team wins in the end, so you know,

1582
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: only one team can It wasn't yours, wasn't It hasn't

1583
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 2: been my thirty years, So it's okay.

1584
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 3: Get football. Can I tell you something one set? Yeah,

1585
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: I was with you last week when we talked about it.

1586
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: Then I thought about it. I said, you know, I'm

1587
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 3: an idiot because I hate the forty nine ers because

1588
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 3: they beat the Bengals twice in the Super Bowl. All right,

1589
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 3: And and there's a player and this is a true story.

1590
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 3: There's an avenue in Cincinnati called Montana Avenue, And I said,

1591
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,520
Speaker 3: I wrote, I wrote an oddbed piece in the Cincinnati

1592
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: Inquirer at the time that you take the sign down.

1593
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 3: There should never be a Montana Avenue in Cincinnati.

1594
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 4: Sorry for.

1595
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 2: The PTSD you get from that. I wasn't alive during

1596
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: those Super Bowls, so I'm.

1597
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 3: Not look at your history. Yeah, I know.

1598
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: Well that's all we have in the last thirty years

1599
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 2: have been failures, all right.

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01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 3: And last but not least, did you get the book

1601
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 3: that was written? But my good friend walk Purty about

1602
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine Ers, great book. I need

1603
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 3: to get it go online. Used to be a sports

1604
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 3: editor in the Cincinni Inquire that he wrote for the

1605
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 3: San Jos Mercury News. He just wrote a book about

1606
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. Get that book. It's a wonderful book.

1607
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 2: I will, all right, So back to the blame game.

1608
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: Football's king ever wonder why other sports don't get you know,

1609
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: the radio sports talk radio ignores hockey, soccer, and to

1610
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: some extent, baseball. Who do you blame for that?

1611
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 3: Bucky? Let's go Bucky first.

1612
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 4: They ignore me because they don't rate. No one talks

1613
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 4: about them, like the numbers of the numbers when you

1614
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 4: look at the number is for NFL games and what

1615
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 4: they draw twenty to twenty five.

1616
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 5: Million viewers on any game.

1617
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 4: They can't do that, So it's not a lot of interest.

1618
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 4: Even though we act like we're interested, we're not because

1619
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 4: our view and habit show that we're more interested in football.

1620
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 5: Football is key.

1621
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 3: The real answer is this, and that's a nice politically

1622
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 3: correct answer and statistically it's correct. The reason why they

1623
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 3: don't talk about it and they don't even give the

1624
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 3: scores on TV at eleven o'clock because these announcers can't

1625
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 3: pronounce their names. They can't pronounce the soccer stars names.

1626
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 3: Or the hockey players' names because they're half of them

1627
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 3: are French or European, So rather than look like a fool,

1628
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 3: they just ignore it. That's the real reason.

1629
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: I yeah, I do think baseball and soccer are getting

1630
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: more popular the last few years. But obviously football is

1631
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 2: king in America. The NBA was playing games in Germany

1632
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 2: speaking of international in England the other day. They want

1633
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: a global footprint. Why don't they try and clean up

1634
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: the game here, like perhaps extending the three point line.

1635
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: It's getting out of control. Who do you blame about

1636
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: the officiating and the rules in the NBA in the

1637
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: current NBA.

1638
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: Well you got to go to the commissioner, okay, And honestly,

1639
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 3: there are so many problems locally. I mean, you know,

1640
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 3: the players sitting out and also this three points the

1641
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 3: other day, I think there was a combined like ninety

1642
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: three three point shots taken. What happened to the game

1643
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: of basketball? That was a beautiful game. It was like

1644
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 3: poetry in motion. The Golden State Warriors have it going

1645
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 3: at a time they kind of went away from it

1646
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 3: a little bit. Golden State, but I'm talking about the

1647
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 3: old Celtic teams with the weaves I remember Bill Russell

1648
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 3: once said, we only have six set plays. That's what

1649
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 3: he once said. I mean, right now, they have no

1650
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: set plays. You go to the park and see the

1651
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 3: kids do the same thing the NBA is doing, even

1652
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 3: of threes. It's disgusting. Hey, Adam Silvas, bring it back

1653
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 3: from Germany, bring it back from England. Clean up the

1654
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 3: game here, please.

1655
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, the game is just different. It's just not an

1656
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 4: entertaining game to watch. It's a lot of three point shooting.

1657
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 4: Everyone is trying to play the same style. There's no

1658
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 4: like playing style, so it's hard to like match up.

1659
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 4: So from a tactical standpoint, everyone just looks alike. It

1660
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 4: does a matter if your team is hitting or not.

1661
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 4: It's just not an exciting product.

1662
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,440
Speaker 3: Accept the Pistons to Detroit. Pistons of count basketball.

1663
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: Detroit Business might win a championship this year. I know, right.

1664
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: Miami University of Ohio is eighteen and zero in basketball,

1665
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: not ranked in the top twenty five last week. Who

1666
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 2: do you blame for that? That seems ridiculous to me.

1667
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 4: I would say lazy voters not being able to pay attention.

1668
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 4: They are undefeated. I saw they won eighteen or whatever.

1669
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 4: Nineteen in row. Yeah, they should be able to get

1670
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 4: some love. I mean they're probably going to replace my

1671
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 4: targets in the top twenty five this week after we

1672
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 4: lost to cal and Stanford and back to back games.

1673
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 3: So yeah, they beat Buffalo in over time last night,

1674
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 3: said in nineteen and oho, you know what, I'll tell you.

1675
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 3: You can talk about the voters, but the voters have

1676
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: to be given the information who the teams are and

1677
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 3: what they're doing. I blame the PR guy. I'm a

1678
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 3: PR guy at heart. I blame the sports information guy

1679
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 3: at Miami. Get the word out, Get the word out.

1680
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Travis Steele's doing a great job. He could

1681
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 3: be coaching the year and it'll be coaching with your

1682
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 3: team not ranked. How embarrassing would that be? Really?

1683
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1684
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's Stanford. That Stanford combo guard

1685
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: is nasty. Great college player, very very good player. But

1686
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 2: North Carolina will be fine. They got a top five pick.

1687
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 3: All right, you got anything else? Because I don't know

1688
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 3: if we have any time. I don't think we have

1689
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 3: any time either. Do what do you guys got any

1690
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 3: final words of wisdom and Brandon, get some tissues out

1691
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 3: and cry if you want to It's okay.

1692
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: Next year we'll win the super Bowl. It's fine, well

1693
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 2: you think.

1694
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 4: Always next year.

1695
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't worry. Draft starting to morrow on tape.

1696
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 3: Got that in tape, No doubt about that, all right,

1697
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 3: coming up next week. Got Greg Cosel at the swollen

1698
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 3: door of Mike Calmon right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1699
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 3: Stay here, keep it locked.