1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 3 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. We are coming off of 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: a short night of sleep. It's after a thrilling Packers 6 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: come from behind victory to twenty two over the Detroit 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Lions on Monday Night football lambeau Field a walk off 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: field goal by Mason Crosby. There is so much to 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: talk about with this game and how it unfolded and 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: how the Packers came out with the victory. Where do 11 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: you want to start, my friend? There are three rules 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: that I live by, Michael. Never speed in school zones, 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: always tip your waiter waitress, and never apologize for a victory. 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: The Green Dave Packers did just that on Monday Night football, 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: and I was talking to a number of players about 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: this in the locker room afterwards. Was it the prettiest game? No? 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: Were there missed opportunities? Yes? Were they beaten by three 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: in the turnover battle? They were, But at the end 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: of the day, the defense got the stops that they 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: needed to keep Detroit out of the end zone, and 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: just enough playmakers made plays for Aaron Rodgers in this 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: offense to pull out the victory. I don't know how 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: you felt about it. I felt like this was one 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: of Aaron rodgers finest hours. He did not have Davante 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Adams for the second straight week. Geronimo Allison leaves the game. 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: I just thought he put on a masterclass about not 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: only how to play the quarterback position, but bouncing back 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: from adversity. A number of different instances in that game 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: where a lesser quarterback, a less experienced quarterback could crumble 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: underneath that drop touchdowns, interceptions that probably shouldn't have been in. 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers rose above it, and he found a guy 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: that had twenty one offensive snaps to his NFL career 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: resume going into this game in Alan Lazard made some 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: incredible catches down the stretch. Yeah, I think that's as 35 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: good a place to start as any as with Alan Lazard. 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: You said it, the twenty plus offensive snaps he'd played 37 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: in his NFL career. He had one catch for seven 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: yards to his name as an NFL player, and it 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: wasn't even from Aaron Rodgers. It came in week seventeen 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: when Rogers was out with a concussion last year in 41 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: what really was a meaningless game against Detroit that the 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Packers got it handed to him that day to wrap 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: up a rough eighteen. But Alan Lazard I mean listening 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: to Rogers in his postgame press conference talking about how 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: he went to Alvis Wood at the wide receiver's coach 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: with the Packers down by a couple of scores in 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and said, hey, put number thirteen in 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: the game, Let's see what can happen here. And then 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: third and five from the thirty five yard line when 50 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: you're down by nine points. He had just tried to 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: go to Lazard, tough play in traffic down the seam, 52 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: almost makes a great catch, gets broke and up. Next 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: play goes right back to him one on one down 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: the sideline with Justin Coleman, who had had the big 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: interception of the deflection of Darius Shepherd at the goal 56 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: line on the Packers previous possession. The throw is right 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: on the money, Lizard makes the catch, tumbling into the 58 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: end zone, and suddenly a star is born. Not only 59 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: with that touchdown, but then Lazard catches three passes for 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: thirty yards on the final drive, two of those that 61 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: moved the chains to help set up the game winning 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: field goal. This Uh, this young receiver from Iowa State. 63 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: He didn't make the fifty three man roster out of 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: training camp. He was on the fifty three the day 65 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: before the opener when Darius Shepherd had a hamstring injury 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: and couldn't place who was only on the practice squad 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: for a few days. At the end of the day, 68 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: West the Packers are lucky that this six ft five 69 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: receiver out of Iowa State was not claimed on waivers, 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: because otherwise he's not even here to be able to 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: make those plays at the end of a week six 72 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Monday night games, they roll the dice a little bit. 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: It was one of the first thing that actually was 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: the first thing that Aaron Rodgers kind of acknowledged when 75 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: he was speaking at the podium. But the fact of 76 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: the matter is they did the same thing with Geronimo Allison, 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Jake Crumero, a number of these players that have been 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: on the bubble before and you know, been on the 79 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: practice squad. But they brought him right back up right away. 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: And I remember talking to Allen about that that week after, 81 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: and sure there was some disappointment involved with not making 82 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: the initial fifty three. That was a big goal for him, 83 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: but he also saw the end game when he resigned 84 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: with the Packers. And there's a lot you know, everybody 85 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: wants to make comparisons about players like you know, player 86 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: A plays like player X from But the thing that 87 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: I like the most of aut Alanas artist he has 88 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: a very similar temperament to Davante Adams. This is an 89 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: ultra confident athlete. He might have been an undrafted free agent, 90 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: he might have spent a majority of his first rookie 91 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: season on the practice squad of the Jaguars, but he 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: feels like he belongs and he was just waiting for 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: that moment. I thought you saw him, you know, show 94 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: those attributes. Throughout the preseason, he made some credible catches 95 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: in at slate, but very productive in the month of August, 96 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: no question about it. He made a legitimate run out 97 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: of roster spot and uh, I know it wasn't an 98 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: easy decision for the Packers, but decisions are tough. Fortunately 99 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: it worked out that he wasn't claimed. He came back. 100 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Rogers talked about how he's done nothing but work hard. 101 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: He didn't let the disappointment affect him and uh, and 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: he came up big when his number was called, and 103 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: that's what I really liked about. I mean, as you mentioned, 104 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Rogers throws that contested passed to him. He was asked 105 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: in his Pope Lazar was was asking his postgame scrum, like, 106 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: did you say anything to Rogers, like, you know, to 107 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: throw it back to me? He said, I just kept 108 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: throwing it, telling to throw me the ball. And you 109 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: know he wasn't throwing at every play. He was obviously joking, 110 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: but that's just the way he's wired. And I think 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: he even it was your column that he had retweeted 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: this morning, um saying he's made for this, this is 113 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: the moments he's made for, and he echoed those comments afterwards. 114 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: He's incredibly humble, he said, this is a huge dream 115 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: come true to be able to have four catches for 116 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: sixty yards in a touchdown, all in the last ten 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: minutes of a game, only playing seventeen offensive snaps, and 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: yet having that production. But at the same time, like 119 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: as markisveld Is Scantling, other guys said in the locker room, 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: this isn't surprise anybody. Al Lazard has been calling his 121 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: shot since he got to Green Bay and he had 122 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: a chance to show what he could do on Monday night. Well, 123 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: and Rogers said after the touchdown on the final drive 124 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: for the Packers, Lazard was coming back to the huddle 125 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: and telling Rogers what routes he wanted to run. He 126 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: was getting a feel for the coverage, what the Lions 127 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: were running, what he was comfortable with, and how he 128 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: could get open. Rogers said there was one moment where 129 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: La Fleur was in between two different play calls when 130 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: there was a time out or they were discussing something 131 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: on the sideline, and Rogers told him to go with 132 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: the one that included the route that Lazard had told 133 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: him he wanted to run. And the Packers got a 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: first down out of it, and the ball keeps moving 135 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: down the field. Just great execution by a green Bay 136 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: down the stretch. Yes, the illegal hands to the face 137 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: penalty on Trey Flowers, his second one of the game, 138 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: certainly factored into the Packers being able to run out 139 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: the clock and not give Matthew Stafford a chance. Going 140 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: the other way, the Lions would have had ninety seconds. 141 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: I think we're so if that third down penalty is 142 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: not called, and then you have to kick the field 143 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: goal a little bit earlier with Mason Crosby. But but boy, yeah, 144 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: you drain the last sixty six off the clock fourteen 145 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: plays seventy seven yards from the Packers perspective, you can't 146 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: draw it up any better. Yeah, I remember seeing this 147 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: to you in the press box right around I think 148 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: it was too forty one remaining, like, oh, could the 149 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Packers legitimately run this thing? They could run it out. 150 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: There are three things I want to mention here. Okay, 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: first and foremost, I've been really hard on officiating this 152 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: year in the inbox and obviously here. The review process 153 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: is something that is driving me bonkers. But the job 154 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: of referees itself, I don't envy them, especially in two 155 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. I want no part of that. If we 156 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: want to have more conversation about that tomorrow, we can 157 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: discuss that then. But the bigger point I want to 158 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: make is that I'm sure there's gonna be a lot 159 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: of people in Detroit, a lot of people in Michigan 160 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: that are upset. They feel like they, you know, they 161 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: got it taken away from a little bit. The fact 162 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: of the matter is Mike because Detroit didn't finish drives, 163 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: and that's where the Packers ultimately beat them. That's why 164 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: they were able to overcome the three turnovers. It wasn't 165 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: the officials or the penalties that it's the fact that 166 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: Detroit had to settle for five Matt Parator field goals 167 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: um including some in the red zone. You have to 168 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: be able to finish off drives if you're gonna win this, 169 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: like the Green Bay Packers have found that out too. 170 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: You look at the NFC Championship game five years ago, well, 171 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: and I was gonna say just a couple of weeks 172 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: ago against the Philadelphia Eagles. The Packers are in the 173 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: same kind of situation in terms of, yes, you're lamenting 174 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: the fact at the end of the Eagles game that 175 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: there's not past interference called on the past of Valda 176 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: scantling at the goal line that leads to the deflection 177 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: in the interception. Everybody could see the pictures. Everybody knows 178 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: that it's past interference. But at the end of the day, 179 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: the Packers had plenty of other chances to win the game. 180 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: You can't sit there and cry about a call or 181 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: a no call or whatever it is when you have 182 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: those opportunities. The Packers knew they had their chances against 183 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles. They didn't get the job done. They licked 184 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: their wounds, and they've come back and found a way 185 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: to win two more games. Yeah, and the Lions legitimately 186 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: did shoot themselves in the foot at several turns. Look 187 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: about it like having twelve men on the field for 188 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: a field goal opportunity. That's an excusable four points that 189 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: you have to know what your personnel is when you 190 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: go out there in that unit. There was an instance 191 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: where you know, Matt Floor took a time out because 192 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: they had twelve defensive players on the field. They were 193 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: switching out from a base defense to their dime. I mean, 194 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: that's stuff that you understand. A field goal operation of protection. 195 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: You have to know what your job responsibility is the 196 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: coaches field goal block on the sideline and it's supposed 197 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: to you have to know who the eleven guys are 198 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: that are going in a game. So the point I 199 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: want to kind of close up on this whole discussion 200 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: with is Detroit came out of the gate and had 201 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: two huge plays right away. The flee flicker to Kenny 202 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: Galladay for sixty six yards and then Marvin Hall had 203 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: his fifty eight yard touchdown or fifty eight yard pass 204 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: that led to a touchdown on that drive ten points 205 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: right off the bat. After that, they did not have 206 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: another play of more than twenty five yards the mainder 207 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: of the game, the Agreemat Packers had five. So that's 208 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: what it came down to me, and I wrote about 209 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: this in Packers dot com with our with our locker report. 210 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: It was lazard as you wrote about in your column. 211 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: It was Jamal Williams coming back after missing two weeks, 212 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: comes back as a hundred four yard Rushi performance was 213 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: a stabilizing presence for four quarters for this team. Uh 214 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: and then obviously slid down late, so you want to 215 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: go in the end zone to to allow Mason Crosby 216 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: to hit the field goal. It was Crosby making three 217 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: big field goals, the biggest of which was the twenty 218 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: three yarder to win it. And then also you have 219 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: to tip your cap to this to this auxiliary players, 220 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: the the Marcedes Lewis is having two catches for fifty yards, 221 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: the will Redmond's playing safety Chandon Sullivan played safety in 222 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: this game. Jannon Sullivan's not listed as a safety. I mean, 223 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: it is just when you get that's the biggest thing 224 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: that really separates this team. I feel, as opposed to 225 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: where the Packers were at last year, is that if 226 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: the starters go down, they just have guys that are 227 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: more experienced and a little behind them. And I think 228 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: that's what's allowed them in the instances when everything doesn't 229 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: go right, to be five and one at this point, Yeah, 230 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: I want to get back to that point in a minute, West, 231 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: but I can't forget about our sponsored business. Select Cousin 232 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: Subs locations are now offering delivery. 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Unfortunately, Aaron Jones becomes the star in 242 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Dallas with four rushing touchdowns. Well, what happens on Monday night? 243 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones fumbles the ball. Aaron Jones drops a wide 244 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: open touchdown pass. This game can humble you. And it's 245 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: what you said. It's having those other guys who can 246 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: step in and pick up the slack. And Jamal Williams 247 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: did that. He had a forty five yard run to 248 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: set up a field goal, the longest rush of his 249 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: career by twenty yards. He ends up with a hundred 250 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: and four yard performance. He keeps his wits and his 251 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: head about him when everybody has said in the huddle, okay, 252 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: we're not scoring a touchdown. We want to run the 253 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: clock down and kick the chip shot field goal. The Lions, 254 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: you know, part the ways from the eleven yard line. 255 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna let him walk into the end zone and 256 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: he sits down on the three and yeah and bypasses 257 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: the touchdown so that the Packers can execute the final 258 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: drive and the final plays the way they need to, 259 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: so that Matthew Stafford doesn't get another crack the other way. 260 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: I can't say enough about what Jamal Williams did in 261 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: this game. On top of the fact that it was 262 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: his first game back in the whatever was eighteen days 263 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: since he had taken that shot against the Eagle. Yeah. 264 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: The other thing I love about this to talk about 265 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: the cat, you know, willing itself not to eat, the 266 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: Canarian situation. I asked Williams about that after the aim 267 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean is that is it difficult to turn that 268 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: switch off because you are just trained your entire football life. 269 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: Now I understand there's some instances where I remember I 270 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: think it was Brian Westbrook a number of years ago, 271 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: or whoever it was, where they're running and then they 272 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: they're wide open. They could just john you know, go 273 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: right into the end zone and they stop at the two, 274 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: they slide, they give themselves up. Jamal Williams is right 275 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of the battlefield there and the Sea's part, 276 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: as he said, and he had to make sure he 277 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: got down. He did say, it is a little tough. 278 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: It is tough not to want to score. But then 279 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: you have to remind yourself what you're doing. That's the 280 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: benefit to the team not going into the end zone, 281 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: being smart in those instances. And Rogers said, hey, he 282 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: probably wanted to dance. He's a dancing light. He wants 283 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: to do is celebrate. I mean jokingly, of course, but 284 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: you can, right And no matter how much it's communicated though, West, 285 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: my point is that you have to keep your head 286 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: about you have to keep your wits about you in 287 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: a highly charged, highly competitive, intense moment there because his 288 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: number one priority, of course this ball, security to not 289 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: fumble the ball, and then all of a sudden everything's 290 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: wide open and has the presence of mind to go, no, 291 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going into the end zone here. We're going 292 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: to do this the uh, the right way, the best 293 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: way to give us the chance to win, and uh 294 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: and the Packers come out with the victory. I was 295 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: really just really really impressed with Jamal Williams start to finish, 296 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: and I don't want to jinx him here, and I'm 297 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: sure obviously fans will say I am now. I mean, 298 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: he's gone basically over three and fifty career touches, three 299 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: and fourteen carries, two and sixty four receiving yards without 300 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: a fumble in his NFL career to this, didn't had 301 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: a fumble, lost without a fumble. I mean, and here's 302 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: the thing about Jamal Williams. A couple different points to 303 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: this one. He's a fun guy. Everybody understands that. You know, 304 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: he's he's joking, he's jovial. He's throwing footballs with kids 305 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: before games. He was really introspective after the game. Any 306 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: can be really introspected. There was a little huddle with myself, 307 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Bill Hubert, Ryan would he's a different personality, but he 308 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: is a very He is a very smartful guy. He 309 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: is an incredibly intelligent guy. And it was when when 310 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: he pulls back all that stuff, it was really interesting 311 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: to just hear him talk about football. And and Ryan 312 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: had asked him a question. It was a good question, 313 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: basically saying everybody talks about Aaron Jones, does that frustrate you? 314 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: And he said it doesn't frustrate him because he knows 315 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: the player he is. He's confident in the player he is. 316 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't care if he's running, blocking, passing, catching the football. 317 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: He he's a confident football player. And it ties into 318 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: what he said last week too, when myself and others 319 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: are asking, I mean, how can you have a hit 320 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: like that like you took against Derek Barnett and just 321 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: go back out there and put it behind you? And 322 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: he said, that's my mentality. It's not bravado, it's not 323 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: a statement, it's not a line that he's trying to 324 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: give people. He legitimately just wants to play football and 325 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: he's an as to use his own words, he's an 326 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: all around back. He can do it all. And I 327 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: think when you really look at what he's given this 328 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: offense over the last two and a half years, every 329 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: single time they've needed to turn to Jamal Williams for injury, 330 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: for opportunity, for game situation, he's responded and you made delivered. 331 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: There's no question you made such a great comment last 332 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: night too, when we watched him after he win in 333 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: for Aaron Jones. You need five yards, He's gonna get 334 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: you five yards, man. I mean, he just was dragging 335 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: piles and then he has a forty five yard carry, 336 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: his longest by twenty yards in his NFL career. Uh, 337 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: he just found ways to make plays and he ended 338 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: up with his second career hundred yard rushing day. Yeah. Well, 339 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: we'd be remiss if we didn't also give due to 340 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: the Packers defense here. You mentioned it earlier, the two 341 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: big plays over the top. Early. I looked at my 342 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: play by play as I was putting some things together 343 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: in the wee hours of the morning after the game 344 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: and finishing up our coverage on the website. Five minutes 345 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: into this game, the Detroit Lions had a hundred and 346 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: thirty two yards of offense. In the last fifty five 347 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: minutes of this game, they only added a hundred and 348 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: sixty seven yards to that total. I mean, what the 349 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: green Bay Packers defense did over the last fifty five 350 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: minutes of this ball game was incredible, and they almost 351 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: stopped him on the goal line stand there. Highly questionable call. 352 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: You had the two side judges, the one the one 353 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: is signaling that it's a stop, and Cleet Blakeman, the referee, 354 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: actually signals first down in the Packers direction. The side 355 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: judge on the other side is signaling touchdown, and suddenly 356 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Cleet Blakeman turns on his microphone and says the ruling 357 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: on the field was touched on moments after he just 358 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: signaled first down Green Bay. There was no discussion, there 359 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: was no huddle. Suddenly it's a Detroit Lions touchdown. Highly questionable. 360 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: The replay clearly inconclusive, so they're just gonna stand with 361 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: the call in the field based on the way the 362 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: rule is written. But my point is what the Packers 363 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: defense did in this game, holding the Lions to five 364 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: field goals, almost got the goal line stand. Two of 365 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: those possessions for the Lions started in Green Bay territory, 366 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: and the Packers defense gets the stop, and yeah, it 367 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: ended up ended up being a long field goal, but 368 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: they didn't even give him a first down um green 369 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: Bay's defense. As Aaron Rodgers said after the game, the 370 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: team got punched in the mouth in the earth least 371 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: stages of this game. But they responded. They and they 372 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: didn't just respond, they responded quickly because that thirteen to 373 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: nothing deficit was wiped out by early in the third quarter. 374 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: It was thirteen to thirteen. I remember turning to you 375 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: looking at how much time was on the clock in 376 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: the third quarter. I was like, all right, it's thirteen thirteen, 377 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: there's twenty seven minutes left. May the best team win? 378 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: Here we go. Yeah, it's just to touch on really 379 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: quickly with the goal line thing. I found it really 380 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: funny that didn't seem to make it into the group 381 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: pool for the you know, the Yeah, there weren't there 382 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: weren't There weren't any questions about how that decision was 383 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: made with no discussion amongst officials who had disagreed with 384 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: what they had seen on the field. But we digress. 385 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: But you do wonder if it's one of those things 386 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: where Cleet thought, Okay, well I'll get reviewed. But I mean, yeah, 387 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: there was no way to tell once it got to that. 388 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: But Cleet was the one that actually had the vantage point. 389 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: The other guy was looking at shoulder pads. Be that 390 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: as it may. Let's move forward here the Packers defense. 391 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: This is what's so important about the confidence that they have. 392 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: It's not I've said this several times this year, but 393 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: it's not a synthetic confidence. It's not something that they 394 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: just put on a Phase four and try to act 395 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: like they got swagger and then when they get punched 396 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: in the maut they curl up in the corner and 397 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: and quit. They really truly believe every single time they 398 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: go on the field, regardless of what happened the last series, 399 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: that they're going to get a stop, that they're going 400 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: to get a takeaway, that they're gonna make a big play. 401 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: And this comes in many different facets. Michael, the run 402 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: defense had struggled the last few weeks. I was talking 403 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: to Dean Lowry about this after the game, they admit 404 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: that they needed to play better. They did against Carrie 405 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: on Johnson and guy that was just coming off us 406 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything on the ground in this game against 407 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City two weeks ago. The pass rush when they 408 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: needed to get to it. And this is a question 409 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: I asked Hermon Williams the third down right now for 410 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: the Packers, that dime package when they get guys in 411 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: third and to medium, to third and long. The confidence 412 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: that that unit plays with three sacks there, Preston Smith 413 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: one and a half of those, sharing one with Kyler 414 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: Facral and Sadarius Smith getting another sack as well. Thirteen 415 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: and a half sacks on the year now for the 416 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: Smith brothers. Incredible. And then just the will to bounce back. 417 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: Kevin King bouncing back from a rough first quarter Gire Alexander. 418 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: I still don't know if he gave up a pass 419 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: in this game. You just ask him about it afterwards. 420 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: They just the defense in the way the which they play. 421 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: It's not phased by what's happened, even if they ends 422 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: up being an adverse situation. If I remember correctly, I 423 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: think Preston Smith got a sack, they ended up having 424 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: the muff punt, and they gave the ball back to 425 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: Detroit at that's where they ended up getting the three 426 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: and out. They just aren't phased. I just thought the 427 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: adversity defense in this game in the way that the 428 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: Packers didn't relent even after they did get punched in 429 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: them all, that's what tells you the true character of 430 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: a unit. Yeah, well here's one for you, Wes, because 431 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: the one thing the defense did not do was get 432 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: a takeaway in this game, and so the Packers lost 433 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: the turnover battle three zero. As I got down rushing 434 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: down from the press box to the media auditorium setting 435 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: up my computer for Matt Lafleur's postgame press conference, it 436 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: takes a few minutes for him to get in there. 437 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: I was searching for some stuff on the internet. I 438 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: found a website that indicate it had all the stats 439 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: that since two thousand and five, NFL teams with a 440 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: plus three turnover margin in a game one one point 441 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: four percent of the time. I mean, the odds against 442 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: the Packers being three oh down in the turnover margin 443 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: to come out with victory are pretty astronomical. But you 444 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: can overcome that when those three turnovers for the other 445 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: team only produced nine points with your defense getting those 446 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: kinds of stops and then you make the clutch plays 447 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Yes, did the Packers get some 448 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: breaks with the officials. Sure, they got the breaks in 449 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: the second half that Detroit seemed to be getting in 450 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: the first half. That's how it shakes out. Everybody's going 451 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: to talk about the ones at the end, and yes, 452 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: I think we'll get to the officiating stuff tomorrow. But 453 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: there were a lot of odds stacked against the Packers 454 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: in this game, and they found a way to win, 455 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: and in a way West that's starting to become the 456 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: theme of the nineteen Green Bay Packers is find a 457 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: way to win. Because all five of these victories in 458 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: the first six games, they've all come in some little 459 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: bit of a different way. There hasn't been one formula 460 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: that they've just gone out and said, Okay, this is 461 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: how it works and this is how we're gonna win. 462 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: They've had to win different ways and they've done it. 463 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: And let's be honest, Mike, last year they found ways 464 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: to lose in different ways and that's what ultimately lead 465 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: them to be in the position that there were was 466 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: just that one week they'd have something. The next week 467 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: it will get strained out, an official call here, a 468 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: fumble there, and the record was what it was. You 469 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: have to win the games, you have to persevere through it. 470 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: Truman Williams, Brian Bulaga, guys who have been through it 471 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: spoke to that afterwards and what this really can tell 472 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: you about a team and ultimately pushing forward the rest 473 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: of the way. I do want to mention, just very quickly, 474 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: Mike Petton. I think you need to take your cap 475 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: off to him as well. And we give Mike Petton 476 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: a lot of credit in the media for the job 477 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: he's done in Green Bay. I thought one of the 478 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: things that he did really well in this and again 479 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: we can talk about it later this week, but they 480 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: gave a variety of third down looks as well. They 481 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: gave times where they put seven up on the line 482 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and sent three. The big play late that 483 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: ended up force I think they got a sack off 484 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: of they went with all seven. Yeah, seven guys came 485 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: after the quarterback. He set the rush up perfectly to 486 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: be able to pressure the quarterback, which, as we had 487 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: talked about at nauseum last week was the thing that 488 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: Packers had not done against Matthew Stafford during this recent 489 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: losing streak. Yeah. Well, the Packers at five and one, 490 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: all alone atop the NFC North. Still no team in 491 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 1: the NFC North with a losing record, the Lions at 492 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: two two and one, the Bears at three and two, 493 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: the Vikings at four and two, the Packers at five 494 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: and one, and uh three other teams I believe in 495 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: the NFC right now with five wins. So, as I 496 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: said an insider in box this morning, hang onto your hats, folks, 497 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: this one is just getting started. And it is and 498 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a really tight race for the division. 499 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a really tight race in the NFC 500 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: for the wild card. I mean, there are no sleeper games, 501 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: and Packers have to be back up on it going 502 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: up against another team coming off of bye week this 503 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: Sunday in the open writers, all right, well, we will 504 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: follow up on more from this Monday night thriller on 505 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: tomorrow's show, but for now we have to call it 506 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 507 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on 508 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: Packers dot com, Subscribe to us, Like us on iTunes 509 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: and other podcast services. On Twitter, He's at west hot 510 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. 511 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, everybody, We'll see you next time.