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Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that fail?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craiggriolu, Paul Calvic, and three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch.

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Speaker 4: So we don't do it a lot, but every now

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Speaker 4: and again we will take this show on the road,

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Speaker 4: and that's exactly what we have done this week live

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Speaker 4: from Indianapolis. The twenty twenty four Scouting Combine is where

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Speaker 4: this week's Cardinals Red Sea Report, presented by your Ticket

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Speaker 4: to Great Seats is taking place. Unfortunately, for my two

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Speaker 4: co hosts, there just wasn't any room for either Paul

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Speaker 4: calbyc or Ky van Bosch to make the trip out

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Speaker 4: to Indianapolis. So my apologies to both of you, and

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Speaker 4: more so, do you kV be because now you're stuck

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Speaker 4: with Paul by yourself for a full alcohol Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough in any with Paulie.

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Speaker 6: But I heard you're lacing up the tennis shoes and

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Speaker 6: you're gonna get your forty time there, Craig, it's don't

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Speaker 6: even know.

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Speaker 4: If i'd I don't know if i'd break a five

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Speaker 7: And a half.

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Speaker 8: No, you wouldn't. I can tell you that right now.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate that it would be six plus.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 8: You're a long strider, but that's not gonna help you.

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Speaker 8: I can tell you that right now, run Green Run.

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Speaker 8: That would not happen and would not be to your advantage.

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Speaker 8: Although we'd love the video. It would go viral, there's

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Speaker 8: no doubt about that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, don't need to see that.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the biggest news is you'll appreciate this, Paul.

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Speaker 4: It's the weather we landed Monday night, seventy one degrees.

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Speaker 4: It's now the same temperature as it is in Tempe

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Speaker 4: right now as we speak here on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 7: I don't care how good the weather is.

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Speaker 8: If you're talking about the weather, that means there's not

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Speaker 8: much else going on, and that's simply not the case.

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Speaker 8: I might come on, Craig, we need answers out there.

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Speaker 8: What's the vibe or the Bear's gonna trade away?

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Speaker 7: Number one?

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Speaker 8: Are they gonna trade away justin fields? What's going on?

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Speaker 8: How about the Cardinals? Of course they're taking bo Nix

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Speaker 8: number twenty seven? Are you kidding me? It's already flying

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Speaker 8: around and they haven't even hit the field in the

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Speaker 4: Come on, we will hear from or I should say,

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Speaker 4: GM Mony Austin Ford is scheduled to speak to the

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Speaker 4: assembled media here coming up at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 4: Later on this afternoon, it will be head coach Jonathan Gennon,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully we'll get some updates on what MANI has

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Speaker 4: general managers and head coaches want is to make any

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Speaker 4: real news. You should bears, no news as far as

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Speaker 4: what they do with justin field. Sean Payton at the

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Speaker 4: going to happen with Russell Wilson, but that's their problems.

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Speaker 4: We deal here with the Cardinals, and a year ago

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Speaker 4: we did have a chance. This was the first time

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Speaker 4: for Monty austin Ford as a general manager to be

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Speaker 4: in this offseason and really prep and form a team

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Speaker 4: that he envisions. Last week on Arizona Sports ninety eight

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Speaker 4: seven FM with Bickley and Marada, austin Ford on this

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Speaker 9: Last year was such a whirlwind. You know, everything was

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Speaker 4: In all of those logistics and all those concern Earns Kyle,

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Speaker 4: they're done and now it's just mainly focused on the

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Speaker 4: A year ago, JG still didn't even have a complete

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Speaker 6: And and we've seen changes all throughout the season and

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Speaker 6: out a very detailed plan that he had a great

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Speaker 6: excited to see what this next you know, month to

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Speaker 8: I mean, Craig, you know, let Monte cook, but he

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Speaker 8: was in someone else's kitchen last year. He didn't have

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Speaker 8: all his utensils, he didn't all his oven worked. Okay,

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Speaker 8: now he has the home field advantage, Now he can

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Speaker 8: truly get in there. He revamped the evaluation system how

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Speaker 8: the Cardinals grade players. It's more accustomed to what he

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Speaker 8: let MONTI cook. He has his own cook book right now,

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Speaker 8: really curious, to Kyle's point, exactly what that means, especially

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Speaker 8: when you're armed with eleven picks, more than any other team,

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Speaker 4: And then you also factor in free agency. The salary

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Speaker 4: But you get the sense that Mani really focuses in

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Speaker 4: build through the draft with that in mind. Earlier, I

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Speaker 4: analyst Daniel Jeremiah on the Cardinals on where they are positioned. Paul,

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Speaker 4: you mentioned it eleven picks, but right now, most top

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Speaker 10: Overall, that's an awesome position. Yeah, I mean it's pole

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Speaker 4: Full interview coming up with Daniel Jeremiah, myself and Danny

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Speaker 4: Shrek here on Cardinals cover two on Wednesday. But you

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Speaker 4: look where the Cardinals are positioned at number four, at

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Speaker 4: number twenty seven, Kyle, and right now, all the mock

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Speaker 4: do Daniel Jeremiah's point, Kyle, Cardinals can sit there and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the value of having your franchise quarterback

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Speaker 6: in place. This is how you build a team. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's there's no question Kyler Murray is the quarterback of

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Speaker 6: the present. Kyler Murray is the quarterback of the future. Now,

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Speaker 6: it's just a matter of adding talent around him, adding

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Speaker 6: can add you know, some really talented players, some young

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Speaker 6: So yeah, again, you know, there's so much mystery and

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Speaker 6: But just based on the things that Monty and his

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Speaker 6: And and you know, it's I think a lot of times,

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Speaker 8: You know, Craig double ding on the interview there with

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Speaker 8: what I think Moni's phone is ringing in that Cardinals

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Speaker 4: There is a quarterback tax if that's what a team

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Speaker 4: to perhaps waiting until twenty twenty five. NFL scouting combine

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Speaker 11: With the forty first pick and the twenty twenty three draft,

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Speaker 11: the Arizona Cardinals select bja old Jelori linebacker LSU.

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Speaker 8: All right, so one of the top edge rushers still

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Speaker 12: Yeah, let's sit as a linebacker, but he's going to

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Speaker 5: That's what he did at LSU.

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Speaker 12: This is back to more of a loose, fluid rusher,

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Speaker 4: Flash back ten minutes ago when the Cardinals with the

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Speaker 7: In the second round.

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Speaker 7: Anias Williams with the announcements.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jeremiah with the analys sis the Cardinals selecting a

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Speaker 4: in bj Ojulari. Year one not too bad four sacks,

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Speaker 6: Pick, right, And yeah, you really got a glimpse of

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Speaker 5: Just based on his ability.

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Speaker 6: I thought, you know, his Daniel Jeremiah's analysis pre draft

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Speaker 6: this team sorely needs. You know, There's there's no question that,

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Speaker 8: You know, Craig at Kunner reminds me of Zach Allen

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Speaker 8: all know the importance. It's quarterback. It's get to the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: We talk about it at nauseum. The latest I saw

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Cardinals ranked twenty ninth and pressure rate according

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Speaker 7: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: Question, a position of need. Is it a deep position?

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Speaker 4: When we talk about the draft again, we are here

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Speaker 4: both back in Tempe as we continue this week's edition

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Speaker 4: of the Cardinals Red Seat Report, presented by Your Ticket

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Speaker 4: to Great Seats.

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Speaker 7: Where is this draft the deepest? Again?

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Speaker 4: Earlier today I had a chance to speak with NFL

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Speaker 10: College game is just spitting out wide receivers left and right,

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Speaker 10: I don't know that this draft is a great depth draft.

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Speaker 10: It's a it feels to me like a three round draft.

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Speaker 8: All right, and there you go. That's the combine and

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Speaker 8: there's a lot going on right there. And we'll reconnect

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Speaker 8: not kidding when it comes to that whole Daniel Jeremiah assessment.

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Speaker 8: The two positions that are the deepest, whether it's receiver

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Speaker 8: And both areas do they not? If you're maniacin for it.

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Speaker 8: talking about how he's going to take a wide view

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Speaker 9: are all things that we're gonna consider.

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Speaker 8: There you go, many Austin Ford on ninety eight to

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Speaker 8: seven FM. Last week, Greg Griolu Indianapolis at the NFL

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Speaker 8: Draft combine, and Moni is scheduled to meet the media today,

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Speaker 8: so we'll see if we get any more insight into that.

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Speaker 8: But the fact, Craig that the Cardinals, you know, you

443
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Speaker 8: can look at him and say, all right, corner tackle, center,

444
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Speaker 8: wide receiver d line. I truly think he lets the

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Speaker 8: draft come to him, especially armed with that many picks.

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Speaker 4: You have so many needs, Paul that at this point, yeah,

447
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 4: you always hear best player available, But I really do

448
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Speaker 4: think that's the case with wherever the Cardinals are selecting,

449
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 4: and you always hear more bites of the apple. You

450
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Speaker 4: want as many different draft picks as possible, as many

451
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Speaker 4: different chances. These are all lottery picks, and you never

452
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Speaker 4: not all lottery picks are successful. You don't always win

453
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Speaker 4: each and every time. But the Cardinals with eleven picks,

454
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Speaker 4: dare I say maybe trying to get some more, maybe

455
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Speaker 4: especially on that day two, early in day three, trying

456
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Speaker 4: to build up this roster not only on the offense

457
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Speaker 4: but defense. And then what we saw a year ago

458
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Speaker 4: in the draft room you referenced it earlier many Austin

459
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Speaker 4: Ford from three to twelve to six, and then watching

460
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Speaker 4: that in Cardinals' flight plan. Just how calm MONI was

461
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Speaker 4: during that entire time. Here's owner Michael Bidwell last week

462
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Speaker 4: on ninety eight seven FM Arizona Sports, Bickley and Morada

463
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Speaker 4: talking about what he saw in the draft room.

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Speaker 13: What he did last year demonstrated he's a true pro.

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Speaker 13: He absolutely handled that thing masterfully as if he was

466
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Speaker 13: a ten year veteran general manager. And the amount of

467
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Speaker 13: plates that we had spinning while we are on the

468
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Speaker 13: clock was just remarkable. I had never seen anything like

469
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Speaker 13: it in my life, and I'd seen a lot of

470
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Speaker 13: trades go down throughout my lifetime, but that was amazing.

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Speaker 4: And this right now here in Indianapolis, Kyle, that's where

472
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Speaker 4: a lot of these conversations can now really take place.

473
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Speaker 4: Maybe some over the phone before you arrived at Indianapolis,

474
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Speaker 4: but now you've got general managers face to face, walking

475
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Speaker 4: the halls, running into one another and maybe tossing out

476
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Speaker 4: a scenario or two that perhaps plants the seed for April.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's exactly what happened last year. New to the job,

478
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Speaker 6: he had already had most of these conversations. You could

479
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Speaker 6: see when you could hear him when he got on

480
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Speaker 6: the phone, Hey, is that deal still in place. That's

481
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Speaker 6: not gonna be enough. We need a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: And the best thing about where we sit, particularly with

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Speaker 6: the fourth pick, is we are not a force seller

484
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Speaker 6: or a force buyer. You know, we don't have to

485
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Speaker 6: get rid of the pick. We're happy going right there

486
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Speaker 6: taking the best player available, possibly taking an elite wide

487
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Speaker 6: receiver or an offensive tackle. But they will have a

488
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Speaker 6: player that will be able to contribute to this franchise

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Speaker 6: immediately and for the foreseeable future at four. But since

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Speaker 6: we are not a four seller, you know, we can

491
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Speaker 6: leverage teams against each other. We can take the best

492
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Speaker 6: deal available, and if we don't like it, we just

493
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Speaker 6: picked the player we like.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're not.

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Speaker 6: In a situation because of the amount of picks we have,

496
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Speaker 6: because we have two first rounders, because we have six

497
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Speaker 6: picks in the first three. I mean, we can just

498
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Speaker 6: you know, continue to build with those picks unless somebody

499
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Speaker 6: knocks our socks off with an offer, like Pauli said,

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Speaker 6: and then you know, you can either accumulate more picks

501
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Speaker 6: in this draft and next year's draft or the following

502
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Speaker 6: draft and really take advantage of the value that somebody

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Speaker 6: is willing to give up to get up to that

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Speaker 6: number four pick.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Craig, the wide receiver spot is so deep,

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Speaker 8: I could easily see the Cardinals training out of four

507
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Speaker 8: going down to middle of first round. One of these

508
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Speaker 8: teams desperate, right they cash that in then middle of

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Speaker 8: the first round they go corner, they edge twenty seven overall,

510
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Speaker 8: they get the tackle, there's so many tackles, and then

511
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Speaker 8: at thirty five they get Hey, I don't know Oregon

512
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 8: receiver Troy Franklin six ' three, a burner, he's been

513
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Speaker 8: the number one receiver for bow Nicks each of the

514
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Speaker 8: last two years. I mean, he's a big play dude

515
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Speaker 8: with a big frame, and he's an afterthought right now

516
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Speaker 8: because of Marvin Harrison, Milik Neighbors, and Roma Dunza. You

517
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Speaker 8: might not get one of those elite three, but you

518
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Speaker 8: could still really get a game changer, a playmaker receiver

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Speaker 8: at thirty five overall, and.

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Speaker 4: The game is won and loss at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jeremiah his brand new top fifty prospects, seven offensive

522
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Speaker 4: linemen in his top nineteen. Is that where the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: focus would pick number four. This is the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 4: right to do a network.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna send Cooks out to the left and two

526
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Speaker 2: receivers to the right. Shotgun formation for Dak Prescott followed

527
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Speaker 2: to his left. Prescott the pass straight drop fire, middle

528
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Speaker 2: of the end zone. Pickoff, Kaizer White quit the interception.

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Speaker 2: Man that Mike do in Dallas. Wow, Paizier White in

530
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Speaker 2: the middle of the end zone. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: Presscott ever saw him.

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Speaker 3: Shock the world. Kaizer shock the world. What a great

533
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Speaker 3: job dropping off into coverage. Dak Prescott trying to hit

534
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Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks over the middle of the field and Kaizer White.

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Speaker 4: Dictims sealed the Cardinals home win, first win for head

536
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Speaker 4: coach Jonathan Gannon twenty eight to sixteen Cardinals. With the victory,

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Speaker 4: as we say, welcome back, it is the Cardinals Red

538
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Speaker 4: Sea Report presented by Azeki Your ticket to great seats,

539
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Speaker 4: Craig Reel, Lupaul Calvc and Kyle Vannenbosch myself here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: So out of the twenty twenty four NFL combine. By

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Speaker 4: the way, GM Money Austin Ford, addressing reporters as we speak,

542
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Speaker 4: will give you the latest as it becomes available as

543
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Speaker 4: we shift our attention from the draft to free agency.

544
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Speaker 4: Kyle Money well spent. When you talk about Kaizer White

545
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: a year ago. He led the team in tackles despite

546
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Speaker 4: missing the last six games of the regular season because

547
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Speaker 4: of a biceps injury.

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Speaker 5: But Kaizer White.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot of money was spent in free agency

550
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: a year ago, but a big chunk of that went

551
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Speaker 4: to Kaizer and it paid off.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Look, he was a home run to me. And

553
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Speaker 6: he was a guy that JG had worked with and

554
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Speaker 6: Nick Rolis had worked with that they identified not just

555
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 6: his ability, not just I mean, we saw what he

556
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 6: can do on a football field east sideline to sideline.

557
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 6: Brings a lot of energy, a lot of juice. He's

558
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Speaker 6: but he's a culture guy. He knew what Jonathan Gannon

559
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Speaker 6: was all about. He knew what Jonathan Gannon knew what

560
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Speaker 6: Kaizer White would bring to this locker room, the type

561
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Speaker 6: of leadership, his work ethic, his energy, and you know,

562
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Speaker 6: they identified him as as a guy that they wanted

563
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Speaker 6: to bring here. And as far as Monty asen for

564
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Speaker 6: it and his approach to free agency last year, you know,

565
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Speaker 6: there's no guarantee it will be the same approach this year.

566
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Speaker 6: But you know there is some inherent risk with free agency.

567
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Speaker 6: But but what he did was they identified some undervalued vets,

568
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 6: some vets that weren't maybe Tier one free agency guys,

569
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Speaker 6: which is where most of the money goes to. The

570
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Speaker 6: guys that could step in be rotational type players both

571
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Speaker 6: offensively and defensively, be role type players. And you know

572
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Speaker 6: that's the biggest thing with where this team is at now.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm not sure that we're in a situation

574
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Speaker 6: where we need to throw the bag at one elite player,

575
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Speaker 6: whether it be an elite pass rusher an elite wide receiver.

576
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Speaker 6: I think we just need to fill holes. You know,

577
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Speaker 6: if you can find a veteran cornerback that can be

578
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Speaker 6: a starter, If you can find a veteran defensive lineman

579
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Speaker 6: that can be a starter. If you can find either

580
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Speaker 6: a starter on the offensive line or a rotational guy,

581
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Speaker 6: and you start to check some boxes, and then you

582
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 6: have a little bit more freedom in the draft to

583
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Speaker 6: try to supplement where the holes still remain, Where we

584
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 6: can add a guy from the college level that doesn't

585
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 6: have experience, but can also be a rotational player that

586
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 6: can maybe add some elite athleticism. Then then I think,

587
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 6: you know, the team starts to really take shape for

588
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Speaker 6: next season.

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Speaker 4: There is money, though, available, Paul, because the salary cap

590
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: for next season announced at more than two hundred and

591
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: fifty five million per team. That is a significant jump.

592
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: Now it jumps for every team. The Cardinals with more

593
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: than fifty million in cap space, are they going to

594
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Speaker 4: use all of it? I don't know if that is

595
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Speaker 4: the mo for GM, MONTI, Austin Ford, but I do

596
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Speaker 4: think it's going to be a little bit more active

597
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Speaker 4: than we saw a year ago.

598
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Speaker 8: Look, they also have to account for Kyler Murray and

599
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 8: the cap hit sixteen million last year, and this is

600
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Speaker 8: the year where it bolts up significantly over fifty one

601
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Speaker 8: million dollars in terms of your cap hits. So the

602
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Speaker 8: fact you got a more than thirty million dollar increase

603
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Speaker 8: in the salary cap from last season this season, that

604
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 8: is opportune. That is great timing for the Cardinals. Doesn't

605
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Speaker 8: mean though, that they're gonna head out and they're gonna

606
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Speaker 8: take a look at the one hundred and one top

607
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Speaker 8: free agents on NFL dot Com that came out this week,

608
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Speaker 8: and so yes, we can all dream about number one

609
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Speaker 8: Chris Jones or number three Josh Allen or number four

610
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Speaker 8: Christian Wilkins, the big d tackle from Miami, Brian Burns

611
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Speaker 8: out of Carolina, the edge guy Lagerious Snead out of

612
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Speaker 8: Kansas City. But odds are most of those guys are

613
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Speaker 8: going to stay with their current teams. It's gonna be

614
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Speaker 8: the second tier. I'm with you, guys, it's gonna be

615
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Speaker 8: the Kaisier White of this year. But if you can

616
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Speaker 8: find that guy off the edge, if you can find

617
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Speaker 8: that guy like the Bears when I got Montes sweat,

618
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Speaker 8: it really does just set your entire defense. So we'll see,

619
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Speaker 8: maybe they've identified someone out there who they can trust

620
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Speaker 8: to invest in, who they think checks that box.

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Speaker 4: The word active in free agency, Just what does that mean?

622
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Speaker 4: Manty Austin Ford last week on ninety eight seven FM

623
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Speaker 4: Arizona Sports Station talking about free agency with Bickley and Marada.

624
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Speaker 9: We are definitely going to be active in free agency.

625
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Speaker 9: You know what does that mean. I can't spell that

626
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Speaker 9: out for you right now. I don't know what that

627
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 9: means like because we don't completely control that. Right There's

628
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 9: a market and there's players that we think are going

629
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Speaker 9: to be available right now that two weeks from now

630
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 9: are not going to be available. So you know, free

631
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Speaker 9: agency is full of unknowns in that respect, and also

632
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Speaker 9: you know there's dangers in free agency. You know the

633
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 9: nature of free agency is you end up overpaying. But ultimately,

634
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 9: we're going to build this team and what we're going

635
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 9: to be moving forward, We're going to build this thing

636
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Speaker 9: through the.

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Speaker 4: Draft, even though there is money to spend. You just

638
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: heard it. Free agency is you overpay. There are no guarantees,

639
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 4: but there is money available. Owner Michael Bidwell on that,

640
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Speaker 4: just that fact last week with Bickley and Marada.

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Speaker 13: I'd go back to the extension of Kyler Murray. You

642
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 13: know where we started spending on the foundational parts of

643
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Speaker 13: this roster, and when you look at going into this

644
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 13: free agency period, I don't know exactly where we're going

645
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 13: to spend, but Moni knows he has the resources to

646
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 13: go out there and get the job done. And so

647
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Speaker 13: we've talked about that at length, he's going to be

648
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 13: smart about it. But we know we're close, and we

649
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Speaker 13: also know that there have been some changes in the

650
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Speaker 13: NFC West and it's time for us to really take

651
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Speaker 13: advantage of this opportunity.

652
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Speaker 4: And they're right there, Paul is the caution. Yeah, just

653
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Speaker 4: because there's money to spend doesn't mean it's going to

654
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Speaker 4: be spent, at least maybe on a high price free agent,

655
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Speaker 4: where according to many, it's hey, let's build through the

656
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Speaker 4: draft and then free agency is about filling holes.

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Speaker 8: You know, the best indicator of future performance, you know,

658
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Speaker 8: would be the past, right, And so what did the

659
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Speaker 8: Cardinals do? The most money they invested in last year

660
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Speaker 8: was Kaizer White. But they knew Kaizer White from the Eagles.

661
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Speaker 8: Jonathan Gannon Nick rawlis, they knew him inside and out.

662
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Speaker 8: They felt comfortable in investing in that free agent knowing

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Speaker 8: they weren't over pain, knowing they wouldn't get a guy

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Speaker 8: who would just go through the motion. And so I

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Speaker 8: think the same thing applies here. Are they capable of

666
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Speaker 8: paying big money to guys?

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 8: Are they willing? I'm guessing not unless they have certainty

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Speaker 8: and not only the player, but the mentality that that

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Speaker 8: guy fits this culture, that the guy is a dog

671
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Speaker 8: and he's a baller, and he'll come in and he'll

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Speaker 8: lead the way. I think in that circumstance, yes, they

673
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Speaker 8: would be willing to invest big money.

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Speaker 4: And then you have to figure out who's going to

675
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Speaker 4: be available, Kyle, because already earlier this morning here in Indianapolis,

676
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Speaker 4: Ravens GM Eric Tacosta said, Hey, if we can't work

677
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Speaker 4: out a deal with defensive tackle Justin Madobuke won't franchise

678
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Speaker 4: tag him. So all of a sudden, there's another one,

679
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Speaker 4: much like a Chris Jones who likely is headed back

680
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Speaker 4: to Kansas City, another one of those need positions on

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Speaker 4: the defensive line. But are those players available? Are they

682
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Speaker 4: just going to be likely headed back to their original teams.

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Speaker 9: We have a lot of needs, we do, and that's

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Speaker 9: a product of just the nature of the NFL. Every

685
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Speaker 9: year there's turnover on the roster. You know, we have

686
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Speaker 9: our own group of free agents that we have to

687
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Speaker 9: work on bringing back, and you know, we have to

688
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Speaker 9: see if there's other free agents out there that we

689
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Speaker 9: think would be a better fit for us moving forward.

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Speaker 9: So you know, I do think that, hey, we have plenty.

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Speaker 5: Of room for improvement.

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Speaker 9: We're we're never going to turn down good players, and so, like,

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Speaker 9: I don't think we're in a position right now to say, hey,

694
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Speaker 9: we're just gonna target this, We're gonna target that. We're

695
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Speaker 9: gonna go look at talented players that fit what we're

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Speaker 9: trying to do, both culturally and also on the field.

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Speaker 4: And Kyle teams are a bit more apt to bring

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Speaker 4: their own free agents back because it's the known, rather

699
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Speaker 4: than going out and trying to put someone in a

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Speaker 4: system that maybe they're not quite familiar with.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the big thing.

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Speaker 6: Like, if you target somebody, if there's a player you

703
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Speaker 6: really like, yes you will pay, and you will even

704
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Speaker 6: pay a premium, but that you know, the risk is

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Speaker 6: that you overpay for a guy. You've got to find out,

706
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Speaker 6: you know, not you can't just even look at tape.

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Speaker 6: Tape is huge, but you've got to find out how

708
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Speaker 6: does this guy practice? You know, what is he all about?

709
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Speaker 6: What motive him? If money is this player's number one

710
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Speaker 6: motivator and he gets that big contract, what does that mean?

711
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Speaker 6: What does his first year with your team look like?

712
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Speaker 6: What does the second year with your team look like?

713
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Speaker 6: Is he a long term fit? Or does this guy

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Speaker 6: just want to win? Does this guy want to help

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Speaker 6: be a part of the culture, be a part of change,

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Speaker 6: be a leader in the locker room, stand up in

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Speaker 6: front of his teammates, and take responsibility and ownership of

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Speaker 6: this team. Those are the type of players you want,

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Speaker 6: and those things are much easier to find with guys

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Speaker 6: that have been in the league for a number of years.

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Speaker 6: You can, you know, you can talk to your friends

722
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Speaker 6: around the league, you can talk to former teammates of

723
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Speaker 6: that player, get a feel for what makes this guy tick.

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Speaker 6: Is he somebody that is going to be a good fit.

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Speaker 6: Just like again going back to Kaiser White, you know

726
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Speaker 6: he is the player example of what Jonathan Gannon is

727
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Speaker 6: looking for. You know, he and Buddha Baker and you know,

728
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Speaker 6: you can see the building blocks on this team already

729
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Speaker 6: in place. How many more building blocks can we bring?

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Speaker 6: Can we bring in more leaders, and can we bring

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Speaker 6: in guys that are going to bring other players around,

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Speaker 6: Because let's not forget with the number of draft picks

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Speaker 6: this year, with a number of rookies that were thrown

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Speaker 6: into action and played last year, this is still, regardless

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Speaker 6: of what we do in free agency, going to be

736
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Speaker 6: a very young team, and this team needs leadership. They

737
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Speaker 6: need veterans that have been there, done that, possibly even

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Speaker 6: had playoff success, so that when this team turns that corner,

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Speaker 6: when this team, hopefully this year, gets into the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: they've got guys with that experience that some of these

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Speaker 6: younger players can look to and lean on late in

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Speaker 6: the season when the games matter the most.

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Speaker 8: Here's what scares me, Craig, is that there's always that

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Speaker 8: one team and that one player. And two years ago

745
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Speaker 8: it victimized the Cardinals. Christian Kirk got eighteen million a

746
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Speaker 8: year from Jacksonville, seemingly.

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Speaker 7: Out of nowhere. So all right, what does that mean

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Speaker 7: for this year?

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Speaker 5: You know?

750
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Speaker 7: Is that Hollywood Brown.

751
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Speaker 8: Who ended up number twenty four on the nfl dot

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Speaker 8: com Top free Agents list.

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Speaker 7: What does that mean?

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Speaker 8: Is some team going to look at the film and go, Wow,

755
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Speaker 8: he should have had a lot better year than he did,

756
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Speaker 8: And is some team willing to overpay? They never underestimate

757
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Speaker 8: how some teams overestimate the impact free agency can have,

758
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Speaker 8: and that's how they end up overpay.

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Speaker 4: Only takes one team. I don't think it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. When you talk about a splash in

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Speaker 4: free agency, but we will wait and see. Free agency

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Speaker 4: begins March thirteenth. We continue here in Indianapolis, the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four NFL scouting Combine. This is the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 4: Radio network.

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Speaker 2: All right, back to throw, Lob's it from your side,

766
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Speaker 2: and what a beautiful grab by McBride.

767
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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray just flicked a p into.

768
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Speaker 2: A thimble looking date firing far side and it's caught

769
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Speaker 2: inside the forty by Brown down to the thirty. Great

770
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Speaker 2: throw by Kyler Murray. Just drop the dime snapped to

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Speaker 2: Murray and he's gonna keep it running left. He's at

772
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Speaker 2: the five pennies into the end zone. Before the touchdown,

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 5: Is packed Coby.

775
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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray drop in trouble, moving to his left and

776
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Speaker 2: he spins away from a defender running to the right

777
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Speaker 2: at the twenty five alf a thirty at the forty

778
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Speaker 2: alf a fifty and dives to the forty five yard

779
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Speaker 2: line in Falcon territory a first down gate of thirteen.

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Speaker 2: That's the Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 7: We remember.

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Speaker 4: So glad, gentlemen, that we do not have to worry

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Speaker 4: about the quarterback position. Potentially three quarterbacks one, two, three,

784
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Speaker 4: dare I say maybe four in the top ten Cardinals

785
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Speaker 4: do have their franchise quarterback. As we say, welcome back.

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Speaker 4: It is the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by Seekik

787
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Speaker 4: Your Ticket to Great Seats, Greig Reallu, Paul Calvici, and

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Speaker 4: ky Vinibosh myself here in Indianapolis out of the twenty

789
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Speaker 4: twenty four NFL scouting combine. I mentioned guys that earlier

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Speaker 4: GM Money Austin Ford was going to address reporters here

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Speaker 4: at eleven thirty. Well he has done that, and what

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Speaker 4: did he have to say? Well, I bring in our

793
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Speaker 4: colleague Danny Surrett here joins me from Annapolis on what

794
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Speaker 4: MONI had to say to the assembled media.

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 14: I'm excited to talk with you guys about what we heard.

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Speaker 15: So he talked a little longer than all full twenty

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Speaker 15: minutes instead of the fifteen, which was pretty nice.

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Speaker 14: There were a lot of people out there.

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Speaker 4: So big takeaway from what MONI had to say.

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Speaker 15: Big takeaway too early for phone calls about whether or

802
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Speaker 15: not the Cardinals are going to trade down out of

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Speaker 15: that fourth overall pick or what they might be doing.

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Speaker 14: Awesome. Ford said that that's not going to come till April.

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Speaker 15: He didn't want to make it clear they're going to

806
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Speaker 15: make their own fair share of phone calls after approving

807
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Speaker 15: last year. They are willing to stay put, they're willing

808
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Speaker 15: to trade down, they're willing to trade up, So lots

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Speaker 15: of possibilities out on the table. He did not get

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Speaker 15: into specific scouting reports. You know, there was one question

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Speaker 15: asked about wide receiver Marvin Harrison Junior out of Ohio State,

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Speaker 15: so Monty had a few good things to say about him,

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Speaker 15: but did make it clear he wasn't going to go

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Speaker 15: going to go into specific scouting reports. So not much

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Speaker 15: more to bring back on that front specifically.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think Paul that's any surprise. As as

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Speaker 4: a gentlemenaser likes to do, you kind of keep those

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Speaker 4: things close to the best.

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Speaker 7: No doubt.

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Speaker 8: Did anyone ask them speaking a receiver and or offensive

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Speaker 8: tackle with those positions being so deep soloaded and Daniel

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Speaker 8: Jeremiah reminded us of that in your conversation earlier, guys,

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Speaker 8: did anyone ask him, does that mean the Cardinals might

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Speaker 8: be more app to wait a little bit later either

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Speaker 8: trade down still get receiver or tackle and or maybe

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Speaker 8: take one at number twenty seven.

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Speaker 15: No, but I do think that is a realistic option, Paul,

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Speaker 15: because of the depth and the fact that wide receiver

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Speaker 15: and offensive tackle are so deep and high needs for

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Speaker 15: this Cardinals team that you would imagine that that would

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Speaker 15: be a topic of discussion as the front office and

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Speaker 15: the coaching staff and everybody is going through this evaluation processes.

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Speaker 15: That would make a lot of sense. Is it can

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Speaker 15: make sense if you want to take a tackle at four,

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Speaker 15: if you stay there and take a wide receiver at

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Speaker 15: twenty seven or kind of flip flop those.

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Speaker 4: As far as players currently on the roster and will

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Speaker 4: be on the roster, we hope will be on the

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Speaker 4: roster this upcoming season in twenty twenty four. As far

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Speaker 4: as the current state of the Arizona Cardinals, player specific

841
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Speaker 4: or any theme that Moni was asked about or.

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Speaker 15: Touched on, sure I had asked about xav and Collins

843
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Speaker 15: and that fifth year option that's coming up. Cardinals will

844
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Speaker 15: have a bit of time before they decide on that,

845
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Speaker 15: and just asking if a year is enough time to have.

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Speaker 14: An evaluation to make that decision.

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Speaker 15: Since Collins only moved outside had one four a year

848
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Speaker 15: one full year as a pass rusher, and Mani said,

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Speaker 15: you know, they haven't come to that decision quite yet,

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Speaker 15: but he did like what he saw from.

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Speaker 14: Collins with that position change, who continued to make.

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Speaker 15: Good strides, who played the whole year, and does expect

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Speaker 15: to see a big jump as Collins continues to get

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Speaker 15: more comfortable. He said that when it comes to making

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Speaker 15: a decision on those fifth year options, it's not just

856
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Speaker 15: about thinking. Twenty twenty four also twenty twenty five and

857
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Speaker 15: the other specific players. Yes talked about Kyler Murray and

858
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Speaker 15: the good feeling to feel confident in your franchise. Quarterback

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Speaker 15: Mania A. Sipport had nothing but good things to say

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Speaker 15: about Kyler's performance and the confidence he gave this entire

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Speaker 15: offense when he made his return. We did talk a

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Speaker 15: little bit to the general manager about the offensive line,

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Speaker 15: DJ Humphries, who tore his ACL late in the year,

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Speaker 15: and how his rehab is coming. Austin Port said that

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Speaker 15: it's a hard injury, unfortunate timing, but Humphries is in

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Speaker 15: the facility every day grinding through rehab. And I asked

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Speaker 15: about the versatility because right after the season ended in

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Speaker 15: the locker room, rookie right tackle. Paris Johnson Junior said

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Speaker 15: he was going to.

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Speaker 14: Train on the left side a little bit this year

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Speaker 14: just in.

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Speaker 15: Case that's where this front office the staff decides they

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Speaker 15: want to see Johnson play next year, especially because we know,

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Speaker 15: although we don't know how long Humphries will be out,

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Speaker 15: we know that he will miss a good portion of

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Speaker 15: the season and Mania Austin Fort said like he is

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Speaker 15: all for versatility, especially on the offensive line, because the

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Speaker 15: more you can do, the more positions you can play,

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Speaker 15: the more valuable you are. So Austin Ford said that

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Speaker 15: he likes the fact that Paris Johnson Junior is training

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Speaker 15: on both sides this offseason.

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Speaker 4: On the subjects of Xavi and Collins, let's bring in

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Speaker 4: Kyvnabosh that you jump from year one to year two, Kyle.

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Speaker 4: We always talk about rookies, but how about players changing

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Speaker 4: positions like Xavion did a year ago, going from inside

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Speaker 4: to outside.

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Speaker 5: I think it'll be huge. I mean, the biggest thing.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's a lot of things that go into it,

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Speaker 6: but it's just you see things differently.

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Speaker 3: Things.

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Speaker 6: You know, blockers are on you much quicker. You know,

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Speaker 6: when you're standing in the middle and off the ball,

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Speaker 6: you've got time to dissect what is happening in front

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Speaker 6: of you, and people aren't necessarily on top of you immediately.

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Speaker 6: But when you are on the on the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 6: you know, you've got to make decisions quickly. You've got

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Speaker 6: to engage quickly, you've got to figure out what they're

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Speaker 6: trying to do immediately, and all of those things, you know,

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Speaker 6: slowed down for him a little bit last year, but

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Speaker 6: you can expect it even more. And you know, the

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Speaker 6: other big thing was, you know, I think he was effective.

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Speaker 6: I think he pushed the pocket. I think you know,

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Speaker 6: he he's strong enough, He's obviously has all the physical

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Speaker 6: skills to get the job done as an edge rusher,

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Speaker 6: but he's just got to find his move. It took

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Speaker 6: me several seasons to even figure out what my best

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Speaker 6: move was and to perfect it. And then once you

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Speaker 6: do that, then you can build a counter off of it.

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Speaker 6: But to go out there and say I've got to

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Speaker 6: move that, they've got to contend with that.

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Speaker 5: They've got to figure out how to block.

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Speaker 6: And you know, he's got another full off season to

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Speaker 6: work on that and continue to develop his pass rush plan.

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Speaker 6: But I expect him to take a pretty big leap

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Speaker 6: also in his second year on the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just three and a half sacks for Zaban a

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Speaker 4: year ago. We'll see what that number perhaps looks like

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Speaker 4: next season. Danny, good stuff, appreciate it. We'll continue our

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Speaker 4: coverage out here from Indianapolis all week long. Kyle, Sorry,

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Speaker 4: you had to deal with Paul for the entire hour

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Speaker 4: by yourself.

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Speaker 5: That's a right stretch your hamstrings before you run.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna have a lot more questions for both you

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Speaker 8: and Danny on Cardinals Underground and Darren Rban. All right,

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Speaker 8: we're gonna put you guys to work, so it's not

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Speaker 8: all just play out there in Indy Special.

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Speaker 4: Thanks everyone behind the scenes. Jim on one Hundro, Cody Fitcher,

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Speaker 4: Alnerini for Paul Calvici, Covenabosh, Danny Sirek. I'm pragerial Lou.

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Speaker 2: It is caught by McBride.

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Speaker 5: Hey, it's a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Boot a Baker with the sack strip the ball. Hurry's

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