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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into a special on location edition at

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live here on a Tuesday. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker with you, and we are coming to live from

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Speaker 2: the New Era Cap World headquarters at one sixty Delaware

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Speaker 2: Avenue in downtown Buffalo. Kind of cool to be downtown,

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Speaker 2: it is. I made the actually made the in with

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Speaker 2: my wife. She works right up the street from here,

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Speaker 2: so we carpooled, which we never do because she's coming here.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Orchard Park. So kind of cool. I

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Speaker 2: got an opportunity to do.

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Speaker 1: That with you. Like we're out of here at three. No,

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Speaker 1: it's more like me staying late with her. That's probably

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: She works, Let's just say she works significantly more hours

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Speaker 2: than you or I. So there it is as it

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Speaker 2: should be. Well O, careful now, careful now, let's hope not.

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Speaker 2: We're here at New Era Cap one sixty Delaware Avenue.

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Speaker 2: We're right in the showroom. And Steve, I don't know

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Speaker 2: about you, like you know how you got friends that

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Speaker 2: are sneaker heads. You know, they got like fifty pair

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Speaker 2: of sneakers and whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'm a hathead.

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Speaker 2: I my wife will be the first to tell you

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Speaker 2: I have way too many caps in our closet. I

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Speaker 2: don't think there are ever too many. Even though I

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Speaker 2: have only one head, have like sixty caps.

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Speaker 1: Got I've got an inordinate amount of hats. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's timely I should say this now what we have

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Speaker 1: season tickets to Saves, right, So we go to the

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Speaker 1: Sabers game for a while it was like, hey, they

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Speaker 1: play good, it's the I keep the same hat on.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, superstitious. I get a new hat. How many

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Speaker 1: saves hats do you think I've got? I got a

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Speaker 1: ton of sa Yeah, you've probably got quite a few.

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Speaker 1: I got a ton of Sabers hats.

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Speaker 2: So New Era Cap, as we all know, is the

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Speaker 2: official on field hat of the Buffalo Bills. But here's

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Speaker 2: the cool thing. This is one of the main reasons

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Speaker 2: why we are here today. New Era Cap and feed

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Speaker 2: More Western New York are teaming up to support the

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Speaker 2: local community here at holiday time. Feed More obviously a

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Speaker 2: hunger relief nonprofit serving Western New York. They support children,

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Speaker 2: working families, veterans, people with disabilities, and older adults. Last year,

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Speaker 2: they serve nearly one hundred and sixty six thousand individuals.

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Speaker 2: So this initiative is going to run in the Buffalo

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Speaker 2: new Era store here at one sixty Delaware from Wednesday Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: December seventeenth, through Wednesday, Christmas Eve. Customers can donate two, five,

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Speaker 2: or ten dollars at their checkout. One hundred percent of

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Speaker 2: those donations going directly to feed More Western New York

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Speaker 2: to support the local community. So another way to support

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Speaker 2: is through volunteering, and for more information on that, you

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Speaker 2: can go to feed more wny dot org. So kind

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Speaker 2: of a cool partnership that New Area caps doing here today,

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Speaker 2: so we wanted to kind of amplify that message by.

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Speaker 1: Being here with the show today.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to stop by between one and three,

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Speaker 2: feel free to do so this afternoon. Come in, say hi,

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Speaker 2: take a look at the inventory, because I got to

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Speaker 2: tell you, every time I come in here, I feel

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Speaker 2: like half the wall.

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Speaker 1: Is brand new stuff. Yeah, it's like never the same.

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Speaker 1: I've it's been a long time since I've been in

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Speaker 1: this store. Because you know, you can get we get

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Speaker 1: hats at the stadium and I wear bills hats mostly,

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Speaker 1: and I go to the saber store in the in

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Speaker 1: the arena a lot, this has got, This has got

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Speaker 1: I don't know, sixty percent of the stuff seventy percent

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Speaker 2: And I think the cool thing is like caps have

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Speaker 2: advanced to a to a place where they're multi seasonal now,

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Speaker 2: like right, I mean, we got a couple on the

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Speaker 2: table here, like this one. You want ear flaps, like

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Speaker 2: you can wear this to a Bills game and be

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Speaker 2: plenty warm, Like you pull the flaps down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got your ears, got the ear muffin. This

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Speaker 2: I had one of those at high school. It was

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Speaker 2: big when I got the corduroy was the look back then.

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Speaker 2: That was the way that I remember. All that stuff's

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Speaker 2: in here. Plus, as you know, New Era provides caps

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Speaker 2: for every single sport you can possibly think of, college football, baseball,

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Speaker 2: of course, golf obviously, So it's really cool to see

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Speaker 1: It's not you know, you just want to walk around.

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Speaker 1: It's like a it's it's a store now, it's like

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Speaker 1: a museum. It's like a museum area too for the

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. It's a great store to come into

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Speaker 1: and it's right here on Delawares.

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Speaker 2: So pop in if you're in the area or you're

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Speaker 2: on your lunch break and you want to swing by,

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Speaker 2: come by, say hi, and if you make a purchase,

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Speaker 2: make a donation as well and help feed more Western

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Speaker 2: New York in the process. We've got some news and

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Speaker 2: some injury news when coach McDermott addressed the media late

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Speaker 2: new kicker for this week's game. Matt Prater comes down

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Speaker 2: he is not going to be able to kick in

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Speaker 1: I saw it. He was. He kind of came off

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Speaker 1: Actually it was a kickoff and he kind of hopped

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Speaker 2: So there's a very good chance the Bills could have

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Speaker 2: because they got to get that guy on the practice

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Speaker 2: field working with Wishnowski the holder, obviously Reid ferguson the snapper.

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Speaker 2: You got to get that operation down, Pat. I mean

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Speaker 2: not that it's an insurmountable task, but you want to

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Speaker 2: have the services of defensive tackle Jordan Phillips, who left

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Speaker 2: last week's game with an ankle injury and did not return.

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Speaker 2: He is down for this week's game as well. On

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Speaker 2: after missing last week's game, linebacker to l Bernard cornerback

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Speaker 2: Christian Benford, coach McDermott saying how they progress through the

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Speaker 2: practice week will better determine whether they can return for

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Speaker 2: while back coach McDermott also said that wide receiver Mcole Hardman,

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Speaker 2: after his initial appearance with the team, could have his

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Speaker 2: practice window opened this week, though that decision has yet

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Speaker 2: practice window to practice and then hopefully ultimately returned to

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Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even if, Yeah, he's close to being ready right now,

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Speaker 1: because that the four weeks is ample time to come

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Speaker 1: back from a muscle pull and in your calf. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he'll be ready to go that twenty one day window.

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Speaker 1: They won't need all of it, yeah, any.

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Speaker 2: But you're wondering what the decision is there at the

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Speaker 2: receiver position because they have six on the roster right now.

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Speaker 1: And Gabe is on the practice squad. No, no, Gabe's

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Speaker 1: on the active roster. He got elevated a couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: So they have six on the active rosters, So I

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Speaker 2: don't know they're gonna carry seven maybe maybe not, So

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Speaker 1: We'll have to see what the ultimate decision is.

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Speaker 2: The Week sixteen playoff scenarios are out, and here is

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Speaker 2: what needs to happen for Buffalo to punch their ticket

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Speaker 2: to the postseason for the seventh straight year. The Bills

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Speaker 2: can clinch a playoff berth this weekend if they beat

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Speaker 2: the Browns and the Colts lose or the Texans lose.

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Speaker 1: Right now, don't worry about the tie scenarios because that

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Speaker 1: adds like six layers of difficulty. Don't need that. Buffalo

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Speaker 1: wins and either Houston or Indianapolis lose, now, don't push

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Speaker 1: your faith in Houston's playing La Raiders. They're not going

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Speaker 1: to lose, or the Las Vegas Raiders. Yeah, those two,

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Speaker 1: and they're playing both teams, and so they in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: but they're still not going to beat the Texas, right,

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Speaker 1: but Indianapolis is playing the Niners. Yeah, they're hosting them

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football with Philip Rivers, so that's a possibility. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if the Bills can beat Cleveland this weekend and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not anticipating Houston playing at home against the

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Speaker 2: who by the way, Steve, I know people knock on

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Speaker 2: the Browns all the time and their lack of offensive punch.

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Speaker 2: They're not the worst offense in football the Raiders are.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders average fourteen points per game. Yeah, they're last

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Speaker 1: It's they're hot garbage right now. They can't get it together.

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Speaker 1: They got some players and stuff, and I know they

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Speaker 1: have some elite players, and Carroll is a really good

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Speaker 1: It's it's and they already fired their offensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: you can understand why. And Greg Olsen is there? Are

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Speaker 1: not Greg Olsen? Yeah? Is it Greg? He moved?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's right, he's I was worried I was naming

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Speaker 2: the broadcaster and former tight end. But he's His name

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Speaker 2: is Greg Olsen too, he just spells it differently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's been around the block a couple of

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Speaker 1: times in the NFL, a lot of it with the

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Speaker 1: getting another chance there. So yeah, they maybe now and

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Speaker 1: after it's been a couple of weeks, maybe they'll start

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Speaker 1: getting some things together and learning what they can do

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Speaker 2: We want to remind you this week's game at the

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Speaker 2: Browns is presented by the bfl O Store, official retailer

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. So those were the Bills practice

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Speaker 2: Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine. Uh, let's flip it over

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Speaker 2: though to around the NFL, which is brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of that, Colt's forty nine Ers matchup on

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Speaker 2: Monday night, Football Indie head coach Shane Steiken confirmed that

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers will again start at quarterback after their narrow

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Speaker 2: defeat in Seattle last weekend. Rivers was eighteen of twenty

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Speaker 2: seven passing for one hundred and twenty yards with a

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Speaker 2: touchdown and a pick Rivers could soon have a new backup. However,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, who has been on injured reserve all season long,

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Speaker 2: have to see what comes of that. I can't see

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Speaker 2: They have twenty one days to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine two quarterbacks on the game day roster

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Speaker 2: It's in twenty sixteen against the Rex Ryan led Bills.

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Speaker 1: You think Aaron Rodgers goes to Mike Tomlin say hey,

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Speaker 1: bit of a rhythm. Offensively. They're protecting Aaron a little better,

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Speaker 1: although he went down a couple times last night as well,

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Speaker 1: and he's got some answers quicker into the snap. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it looks like the Steeters are finally, you know,

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Speaker 1: they stopped wobbling on their offensive feet.

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Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos plays safety Brandon Jones on ir Monday

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Speaker 2: with a pectoral injury. It's a significant loss for one

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Speaker 2: of the league's best defenses. He was the team's third

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Speaker 2: leading tackler, plays ninety three percent of the defensive snaps.

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Speaker 2: He left Sunday's game against the Packers, which Denver won

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Speaker 2: in the second half, and did not return. I was

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Speaker 2: reading the article on this injury and they're talking like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's a tough blow for Denver.

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Speaker 1: You know they lost him.

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Speaker 2: They also lost Patrick's or Tan for three games earlier

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Speaker 2: this season, and I'm sitting there going you lost one guy,

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Speaker 2: one starter for three games, and now you're gonna lose

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Speaker 2: this guy for the rest for the last three games

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and you're whining about how shorthanded the

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Speaker 2: Denver defense is. Seriously, go look at the bills injury

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Speaker 2: list on defense.

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Speaker 1: Come on with that.

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Speaker 2: So that's around the NFL presented by Coalida Health. Topic

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Speaker 2: a discussion for you find folks today out there in

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Speaker 2: the listening audience is one that I think is kind

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Speaker 2: of on everybody's radar to a certain extent. What do

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Speaker 2: you believe is the best way for the Bills to

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Speaker 2: get off to a faster start. We know that slow

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Speaker 2: starts have been a problem, particularly on the road, and

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Speaker 2: they often find themselves in a halftime hole that they have.

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Speaker 1: To climb out of.

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Speaker 2: How do you see them best remedying that situation? Eight

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Speaker 2: oh three, five point fifty one eighty eight, five point

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five point fifty. We're gonna lead off here

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Speaker 2: before the break with Sam in Lakewood.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Samuel?

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Speaker 3: Have they announced this one?

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Speaker 6: They will be playing the Jets at home the last game.

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Speaker 2: No, they have not done that, and where it is

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Speaker 2: we probably will not know until about seven to eight

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Speaker 2: days before the game, So probably won't know till about

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Speaker 2: the end of next week, like maybe a day or

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Speaker 2: two before the Eagles game. We'll find out whether the

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Speaker 2: Bills are playing on Saturday or Sunday in Week eighteen.

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Speaker 2: And obviously a lot of that will hinge on what

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Speaker 2: happens elsewhere around the league, because look, the NFL is

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Speaker 2: after the most eyeballs and the most drama.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of us.

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Speaker 2: Remember two years ago the Bills got moved to Sunday

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Speaker 2: night because they were playing the Dolphins for the division, right,

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Speaker 2: so they want we're putting that in prime time now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not anticipating Bills Jets to go to prime time,

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Speaker 2: but I guess my point is if the Bills Jet

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Speaker 2: game and the outcome hinges on someone else's playoff fortunes,

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Speaker 2: they may wait until Sunday at four to play that game, or.

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Speaker 1: They may put them on Saturday to get it out

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Speaker 1: of the way because some of the something else will

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Speaker 1: be on the line, or they want the Bills, they

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Speaker 1: want the Bills result before, say, the Patriots have to

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Speaker 1: play to get in, you know, if they don't win

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Speaker 1: against the Jets on final weekend, you know that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. So yeah, all that's in the mix. They're

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Speaker 1: going to push it until the very last moment. And

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Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, also that the week seventeen, the

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Speaker 1: week a week from this Sunday, the Week seventeen games,

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Speaker 1: a ton of the prime time games that they were

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Speaker 1: thinking were really going to be important are stinkers. So

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Speaker 1: the matchups for Week seventeen have been you know, the

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Speaker 1: airs out of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think the Bills are going to

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Speaker 2: move because I think that's a Fox protected game. It's

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Speaker 2: a four to twenty five kick, it's in that prime window,

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Speaker 2: and I think they protected that game as you would expect,

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Speaker 2: you know, Josh Allen against the defending Super Bowl champs.

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Speaker 2: So I believe Fox protected that game. So that thing's

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Speaker 2: not moving. In case you're worried about that and attending

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Speaker 1: This is a conversation we're having. This is I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've been doing this long. You've been covering the team

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Speaker 1: for a long time, and I know fans out there

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Speaker 1: will kind of get what I'm saying. We're into this

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Speaker 1: two games, three games left, and it's like, okay, where

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Speaker 1: are we at? I you do this ten thousand foot

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Speaker 1: view and it's a mess right now. The Bills are

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Speaker 1: gonna get in and now it's all about, okay, you

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Speaker 1: really are curious as to what other teams are gonna do.

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Speaker 1: And then this game this year, these last few three games,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we've ever seen the AFC Conference

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Speaker 1: stirred up as much as we are this year.

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Speaker 2: Well it's because not only is the division race tight

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Speaker 2: still in two divisions, the South and the North on

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Speaker 2: the AFC side, but the wild card race is just

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Speaker 2: as tightly packed with all three teams. I saw this

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Speaker 2: on We're all going to be jocking for position.

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Speaker 1: I saw this today. This is the first time in

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Speaker 1: since two to three that in the AFC Conference from

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Speaker 1: the twelve months before there are four different division leaders

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Speaker 1: than a year before. No, okay, four division leaders are

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Speaker 1: different than they were twelve months ago at this time,

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Speaker 1: so it's this is really interesting. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be really fun coming down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by former Bill Center Mitch Morris.

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Speaker 2: It's time for our weekly visit with him from the Armchair.

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Speaker 2: Mitch Morse.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Mitch.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, first off, because Steve was beside himself at

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Speaker 2: halftime of this game on Sunday, how were your emotions

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Speaker 2: at the break there as the team headed to the

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Speaker 2: locker room down twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question. I think I shared Steve's

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Speaker 7: sentiment and reached for as many libations as I possibly could.

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Speaker 7: I was trying to numb the system and also just

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Speaker 7: decrease the heart rate, and all that did was spike

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Speaker 7: it for that second half comeback. It was a beautiful game.

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Speaker 7: You know, I know the sentiment's been shared the second

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Speaker 7: half team, but holy cow, what a contest, dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you I heard what James Cook said. Listen.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was really calm. It was we just said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: this is not who we are. Let's go out and

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Speaker 1: play our game. And I get that. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: been a part of those locker rooms as well. But

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Speaker 1: x'es and O's wise, certainly, And I was telling Brownie this.

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Speaker 1: I watched the replay, the condensed version of this game

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Speaker 1: a couple of times, and the Bills weren't struggling to

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Speaker 1: move the ball, they were struggling to execute and they

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Speaker 1: were getting into you know, third down really quick. They

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Speaker 1: had the first three drives were almost non existent. They

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Speaker 1: only got four drives in the entire first half, and

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Speaker 1: when they finally got out of their own way, they

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Speaker 1: scored a touchdown and went on to score four more

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Speaker 1: right after halftime. So I don't know that there's that

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Speaker 1: many offensive adjustments that they were looking for, But defensively,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I might have to be convinced that

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Speaker 1: they didn't have a little bit of work to do

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Speaker 1: over there.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, you hear the tale of two

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Speaker 7: halves being said, and my goodness on offense to your point, rather,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think those first few drives like that,

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Speaker 7: it wasn't that there wasn't anything there right like that,

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Speaker 7: Brandon Cook's catch was so close to being a man.

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Speaker 7: And then of course there was a late third down

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Speaker 7: where they brought just like a really great pressure against

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Speaker 7: the five man protection. Of course, then we get going

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Speaker 7: and inversely, you know, they were scoring on every drive

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Speaker 7: and then we finally stifled him. You hear about rolldecks

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Speaker 7: of defense, has making adjustments, and I guess he tried

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Speaker 7: to lull him into a sense of security for this one,

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Speaker 7: because I got nothing fancy for you guys, besides the

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Speaker 7: fact that I was just one heck of a second half.

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Speaker 7: And I think one of those things that they did

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Speaker 7: in those big moments in those second half is they

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Speaker 7: showed them different looks and they didn't show them the

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Speaker 7: same thing over and over again. And I guess that

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Speaker 7: gets them into a sense of complacency because it was

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Speaker 7: two different It was two different games truly, from first

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Speaker 7: half second it definitely was this is the second half team.

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Speaker 7: I guess it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One of the guys that sparked them, though, was Ray Davis,

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Speaker 2: who for the last three pretty much since the Houston

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Speaker 2: game when he took the ninety seven yarder back for

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Speaker 2: a touchdown, has led the league in kick return average,

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Speaker 2: and he only helped his average on Sunday, but clearly

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Speaker 2: provided a spark.

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Speaker 1: For this team to start the second half.

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Speaker 2: And we were talking about it yesterday Mitch special teams

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Speaker 2: coordinator Chris Taber and some of the wrinkles he put

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Speaker 2: in the kick return game, notably Ray Davis single returner

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Speaker 2: Ty Johnson not next to him. Reggie Gilliam is an

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Speaker 2: up man and even Alec Anderson is an up man

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Speaker 2: on that second half kickoff.

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Speaker 7: What a tale we talked about tail two halves. You

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Speaker 7: can be in part of a game, it can be

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Speaker 7: part of a season. I remember this being a huge

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Speaker 7: talking point early on. And then what do you do?

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Speaker 7: You make adjustments and Ray Davis becomes one of the

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Speaker 7: most explosive kick returners in the NFL. I mean he

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Speaker 7: is the most explosive kickoff return in the NFL, setting bills,

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Speaker 7: you see franchise records, and honestly is an offensive player

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Speaker 7: more than anything. There is something to walking onto that

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Speaker 7: field with good field position. It definitely plays a psychological

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Speaker 7: role in giving you a little more confidence. Ray Davis

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Speaker 7: is giving this offense as much confidence as a few

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Speaker 7: first downs because he is giving these guys a few

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Speaker 7: first downs. He's flipping the fuel. He's not There's not

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Speaker 7: this arduous seventy five or eighty yards that this offense

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Speaker 7: has in that game. Really it's sixty yards at the most.

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Speaker 7: It seems like if the guy is really humming, so

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Speaker 7: kudos and him kudos are that special teams coordinator. If

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Speaker 7: you can get Alec Anderson on kickoff returns, he's a pig, savage,

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Speaker 7: he's a lunatic. You get him on there, dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's how you know they're doing the right things and

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Speaker 7: looking not only the personnel, but the person because that

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Speaker 7: man wants to and he loves violence and that's a

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Speaker 7: violent part of the game, Steve, and it's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yah, I'll tell you this. That's right. You have a

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Speaker 1: big man on special teams who's a tough matchup and

650
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Speaker 1: who wants it. It's a hard matchup because a lot

651
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Speaker 1: of special teams philosophies around the athletics and you know,

652
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Speaker 1: the speed and the coordination guys keep their ballants not

653
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Speaker 1: getting But if you get a big dude out there

654
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Speaker 1: who wants it and can play, it's really a tough

655
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Speaker 1: matchup for the other side because there they won't have

656
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Speaker 1: a guy that big who can do it, who can

657
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Speaker 1: match up. When so all of a sudden, even if

658
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: you know somebody's getting taken out by that guys, and

659
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Speaker 1: if he's on the coverage team, same thing.

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Speaker 7: Last few weeks, we're looking at this, it just seems

661
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Speaker 7: like this special team's unit wants it more. It's no

662
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Speaker 7: statistics behind it, it's just all I can like, do

663
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Speaker 7: you see a team that's playing harder on special teams?

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Speaker 2: Well, Steve made this point yesterday and he's probably gonna

665
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Speaker 2: make it again here because I think it's one hundred

666
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Speaker 2: percent accurate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I think they're starting to get a

668
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Speaker 1: feel for the rhythm of the game. They're also What

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Speaker 1: happens too, Mitch, is it's like the offense, like you

670
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Speaker 1: and the offensive line and stuff, and you're blocking for

671
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Speaker 1: a guy like James Cook who all of a sudden

672
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Speaker 1: is this guy, and it elevates your play and your

673
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Speaker 1: desire and your motivation and all that. It's the exact

674
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Speaker 1: same thing for a kick return unit. If you're up

675
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Speaker 1: there blocking on the front line of kickoff and you

676
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Speaker 1: know you've got a Ray Davis back there who can go,

677
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: and he's leading the league, and you got this thing

678
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: moving and you're contributing to a good team in big games. Man,

679
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: it elevates the other ten guys on the squad, and

680
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: you can tell that it's starting to feed on itself

681
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Speaker 1: for the Bill's return.

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Speaker 7: Game, I can that's amazing. Yeah, well said, very well

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Speaker 7: said I.

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Speaker 1: Got something to ask for you. Say, we've seen a

685
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Speaker 1: lot at the end of the game. We've seen the

686
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Speaker 1: highlight one hundred times of Joey Bosa not deflecting the

687
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Speaker 1: pass and sending the Pats offense off the field for

688
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Speaker 1: the last time. But to seal that win, I want

689
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Speaker 1: you to talk because this will be your forte the Bills.

690
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's two minutes and with every snap of

691
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Speaker 1: the ball and every time out that the New England

692
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Speaker 1: Patriots take, it's getting less and less likely that they're

693
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Speaker 1: going to be able to win the game. But you

694
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Speaker 1: still have a chance to ice it. And the Bills

695
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: run this play on third and two to tie Johnson

696
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Speaker 1: on a quick hand off as he's the full back

697
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Speaker 1: off set to the right and the hand is off

698
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Speaker 1: quick to him and he gets it. That tell me

699
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Speaker 1: about walk through that play because that's the final play

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Speaker 1: that put him into kneel down formation.

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Speaker 7: It was my favorite player of the day, Steve. Out

702
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Speaker 7: of all the plays that we saw the offense run,

703
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Speaker 7: it was my favorite because, like you had said, this

704
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Speaker 7: was such a momentous play. Yes, it was a tale

705
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Speaker 7: of two halves, but who didn't feel like the New

706
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Speaker 7: England Patriots could find something at the very end and

707
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Speaker 7: get going. They had to get this third down, and

708
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Speaker 7: it was a dive like this is a team, dude,

709
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Speaker 7: the Bills. We see this, and for weeks and months

710
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Speaker 7: I would have told you that they live on outside

711
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Speaker 7: zone and that's what they live and die on. They

712
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Speaker 7: do not run between the tackles. This is this is

713
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Speaker 7: the epitome of running between the tackles. A dive right,

714
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Speaker 7: like a full back dive like Ty Johnson's the full

715
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Speaker 7: back in this and they run a six. The Patriots

716
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Speaker 7: come out in a six to two defense where the

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Speaker 7: you know, they have three guys in the left, it's

718
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Speaker 7: a goal line defense. They come out in a goal

719
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Speaker 7: line defense. They maneuver it and then they run between

720
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Speaker 7: the a gaps where Osiris horns Actually is a very

721
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Speaker 7: good kind of leverage twist out block. It's it's just

722
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Speaker 7: a grimy play. Connor, Dave and Dion have to keep

723
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Speaker 7: their guys inside. They do, and then they just book

724
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Speaker 7: what we call book, which is leave. The safety comes

725
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Speaker 7: into that linebacker position. The tight ends do a fantastic job.

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Speaker 7: Everyone's on the same page. And it's grimy as hell,

727
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Speaker 7: and it's something that this team really hasn't run. But

728
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Speaker 7: it's also one of those weird attitude plays. Man, it's

729
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 7: a dog ass attitude play. These dudes are gonna run.

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Speaker 7: We know what defense you're in. You're in a defense

731
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Speaker 7: to stop the run. You know we're gonna run, and

732
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Speaker 7: we don't give two deadli's. This is what we're gonna do.

733
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Speaker 7: And it was you could see the elation on the offense.

734
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Speaker 7: Of course, they were exhausted because it was a grinder

735
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Speaker 7: of a game, but then they were able to kneel

736
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Speaker 7: it out. The greatest play in football is victory formation, baby,

737
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Speaker 7: and they were able to do that.

738
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Speaker 2: After that griming, you already touched on the defensive effort

739
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Speaker 2: and how varied the play calls were in the second half.

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Speaker 2: It had Drake May as indecisive as I have seen

741
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Speaker 2: him all season long. So credit the coaching staff for

742
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: spinning the dial on him consistently, not one series to

743
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Speaker 2: the next, literally one play to the next. He did

744
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: not get the same look twice for a long stretch

745
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Speaker 2: in that third quarter and even into the fourth quarter,

746
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Speaker 2: And then you had guys executing and making plays. You know,

747
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Speaker 2: whether it was Milano coming on an a gap blitz

748
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Speaker 2: or Bosa dropping out and Milano's the blitzer. Milano came

749
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Speaker 2: through in a big way and looked like twenty twenty

750
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Speaker 2: two All Pro Matt Milano. Ten tackles, two sacks, forced fumble.

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Speaker 2: That's that was a welcome Matt Mlano sighting.

752
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Speaker 7: Oh, Chris, it was, of course, I have to I'm

753
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Speaker 7: not gonna be able to take off my Homer best

754
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Speaker 7: on this because Matt's one of my favorite teammates ever

755
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 7: been around. But the guy turned back the dials.

756
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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 7: He was playing confident, he was playing lights out. He

758
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 7: was playing fast, decisive, physical, violent. To your point, this

759
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Speaker 7: was twenty twenty two Matt Milano, and it was poetry,

760
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Speaker 7: my friend. We were seeing him make sacks, I mean

761
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Speaker 7: more than anything. There was even plays that he didn't

762
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Speaker 7: make the tackle, but he was playing in the backfield.

763
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Speaker 7: When you have a linebacker playing in the backfield, through

764
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Speaker 7: and through, and those two secs, to his credit, were

765
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Speaker 7: just effort. I'm a big boy, I'm gonna come in here.

766
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna out effort you in a divisional game where

767
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 7: it's a hat and T shirts. You guys think that

768
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Speaker 7: I'm washed up. Whatever the national narrative whatever the narrative

769
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 7: is from the defense, I don't care. This man came

770
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Speaker 7: out to play and in the last three games has

771
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Speaker 7: had twenty tackles, four tackles for loss, whatever you want

772
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Speaker 7: to call it. We had talked about Shaq Thompson a

773
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Speaker 7: few weeks back or these past few weeks, giving some

774
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Speaker 7: interjecting some energy into this. Well, shoot man, the baton's

775
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 7: been passed or it's been shared at least by Matt Mulano.

776
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Speaker 7: And as a guy who has a vested entrance and

777
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Speaker 7: interest rather in the person, I can't be happier.

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Speaker 1: Well, Mitch I before we came on, we just had

779
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Speaker 1: a quick conversation at the end of our last segment

780
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Speaker 1: that you that this point of the season, the AFC,

781
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: the conference is so wide open. All four divisions have

782
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: a different leader than they did twelve months ago, this

783
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: late in the season, and there's a ton of teams

784
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: in the hunt to get in the wild card when

785
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: the division. All of that and the conversation shifts give

786
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Speaker 1: us an idea of what the mentality is inside the

787
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Speaker 1: locker room when you're trying your best just to keep

788
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: your head down, think about this game, think about doing

789
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: your job, preparing for the Cleveland Browns this weekend in Cleveland.

790
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: But there's so much going on in the league, and

791
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: you don't know which team you're gonna face in four weeks,

792
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: let alone these last three games are set in four weeks.

793
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: You're pretty sure you're gonna be playing somebody, and you're

794
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who it is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Steve, you know, I always loved Christmas football time because,

796
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 7: of course you understand who you are as a team.

797
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 7: Things have kind of settled down in regardless to practices,

798
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 7: kind of cut back a little bit. You're just kind

799
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 7: of in the flow. That being said, there is so

800
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 7: much fun known in the season, but I feel like

801
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 7: in the past the Bills have had so much unknown,

802
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 7: whether it's having to win out to win the division

803
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 7: or make the playoffs, whatever your mind, it seems in

804
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 7: that building or maybe in the NFL, when things are

805
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 7: going well, your mind seems to come as chaos and

806
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 7: as the stakes get higher, right, And I think that's

807
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 7: the sign of good football teams. It was every time

808
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 7: I was in that you know, one Bills, you know,

809
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 7: I was in One Bill's drive, it seemed that as

810
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 7: everything around us, the narratives or whatever kept going. Closer

811
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Speaker 7: to Christmas, that's when everything calmed down for us. That's

812
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 7: when we just stuck to our game plan. That's when

813
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 7: we stuck to what we knew. What we knew worked,

814
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 7: and then let the chips fall where they may. It's

815
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Speaker 7: the biggest cliche around that, God bless you just worry

816
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 7: about yourself and then let everything else be dictated by

817
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 7: folks who you know are outside of the building.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Mitch, Thanks for the time.

819
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Speaker 2: As always, we'll catch up with you next week, right

820
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: before Christmas, So no Christmas wishes just yet from us

821
00:42:59,480 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: to you.

822
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: Will do that next week.

823
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 7: Hey, sneak a few hats for me, guys.

824
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thanks, all right, we'll do a weekend.

825
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: That's Mitch Morris joining us for his from the Armchair

826
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Speaker 2: segment presented by Ray Moore and Flannagan.

827
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Speaker 1: We take a break here.

828
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Speaker 2: But when we come back, we'll discuss game day mentality

829
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Speaker 2: for the Bills as they prepare for the Cleveland Browns

830
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: here in week sixteen coming up. We'll do that when

831
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Speaker 2: we return. As we are coming alive from the New

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Speaker 2: Era cap Headquarters one sixty Delaware, stop by and see us.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you on the other side.

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Speaker 2: Game day mentality is presented by Best Self, Best Self

835
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Speaker 2: Behavioral health official mental health partner of the Buffalo Bills,

836
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Speaker 2: and Steve I think the game day mentality has to

837
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: be lock it in from the beginning, especially coming off

838
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: an emotional divisional win last week and now you're playing

839
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Speaker 2: a three and eleven team. It's just human nature to

840
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: be harder to get up for a team like that.

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00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: You need to stack wins here, Yeah, you do. And

842
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: I think the when you play a team like Cleveland,

843
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: every all these teams are the same, but they're also

844
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: all unique, right. I mean, Cleveland's got a guy you

845
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: gotta know where he is all the time, and Miles

846
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: Garrett keep him off of Josh. Start there and then

847
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Speaker 1: see if you can run your offense. I think I

848
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: think the key to getting off to a faster start

849
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Speaker 1: for most of us who are just fans if your

850
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: offense looks good and nothing else really matters, because then

851
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: the pressure's all on their offense and they've got to

852
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: do everything right to beat your defense. I think the

853
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: Bills defense, I don't think it's gonna change its spots now.

854
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna have to be a playmaking, turnover

855
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: driven defense that you get into crucial downs and on

856
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: certain situational football stop like third and long or fourth

857
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: down conversions, you got to win. That's what ice the

858
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: game last week with Bosass. They made plays. That's what

859
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: this defense is going to have to be about going forward.

860
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: And the more that they do, the easier it'll be

861
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: on the offense, and the and the less you know,

862
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: the fewer tall buildings and Josh will have to leap

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Speaker 1: in a single bound.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I just it's part of our topic

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Speaker 2: of discussion today and we'll get to the phone calls

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Speaker 2: in just a second here. But they got to get

867
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: off to a better start. They're playing a dangerous game

868
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: getting into these first half holes. They've been able to

869
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: climb out of them each of the last two weeks,

870
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Speaker 2: but eventually your number is up.

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Speaker 1: The words that people are using, it's not finger I'm

872
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: putting finger clotes up. It's not sustainable, right. I get that.

873
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: The offense is what it is. They can put it together.

874
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: They've got weapons, they've got a great offensive line. I mean,

875
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: the whole thing. The offense is going to click when

876
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: they need it to click. Certainly, Josh gives them some

877
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: plays on the periphery that nobody else can give them,

878
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: which gives them that little bit larger margin of error.

879
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: But defensively, as we've seen, they've got the guys that

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Speaker 1: can get it done when they're when the coaches can

881
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: get it together. But they've got to They gotta have

882
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: some knowledge about the game, you know, they got to

883
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: work into it. They can't show up and just overpower

884
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: somebody physically. You can't. You don't have anybody who's gonna

885
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: win a one on one up front. You know. They

886
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: got to do it together, and so that means they've

887
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: got to be on the same page. They've got all

888
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: this stuff about marrying the coverage with the front and

889
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: all of that stuff is true, but they've got to

890
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: be They've got to catch the offense doing something or

891
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: get the offense to do something. They're not good at

892
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: it, and this last week it was spinning the dial and

893
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: giving them different looks and Drake May having to tap

894
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit, Matt sending some extra pressure

895
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: doing that out of looks they didn't expect. Plus Milano's

896
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: squeezing through a double team and getting a sack, you know,

897
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: tipped passes Drake May not being able to run the

898
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Speaker 1: football out of the pocket. So when they got into

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00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: the game and they started figuring out what the Patriots

900
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: could do and what they could take away, the defense

901
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: became really good enough physically, good enough, manpower, good enough, scheme,

902
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: good enough, and you know, they absolutely shut him down

903
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Speaker 1: in the second half. Yeah, I get the sixty five

904
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Speaker 1: yard or which is a backbreaker in normal games, but

905
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Speaker 1: that you know, that defense really put together a good half,

906
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: So it's in the tank. But some things that they

907
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: have to do it in a way that gets them

908
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: to that rather than just showing up, flipping a switch

909
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Speaker 1: and out manning everybody every offense.

910
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Speaker 2: So that is game day mentality presented by best self.

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00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: zero five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty and to Chuck in Hamburg, what's up, Chuck?

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Speaker 4: Chris?

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Speaker 3: I think everybody should give Bobby Babbitts the props because

916
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Speaker 3: he made Drake May look like a confused baby raccoon

917
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Speaker 3: in the second half.

918
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Speaker 1: He okays an analogy.

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Speaker 3: Teams cover two, cover four. He made Zones look like

920
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: man the man. He made man and man look like zone.

921
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: He confused that poor baby in the second half. If

922
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Speaker 3: we could do that against Cleveland in the first half

923
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Speaker 3: against Shador, who's another baby, we should be fine. Josh

924
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: should be able to get into rhythm anytime he needs

925
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Speaker 3: to in that game. And yeah, now that's as telling

926
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Speaker 3: his props for taking care of his buddy Dawson starting

927
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Speaker 3: his daughter's college fund already, because the way he sends

928
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Speaker 3: in the Rock is the last two weeks Dawson made

929
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Speaker 3: his bonus two hundred thousand dollars for a brand new

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Speaker 3: daughter's college funds.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Yeah, thanks Chuck. Don't

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Speaker 1: dismiss the Cleveland defense. It's a good group.

933
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Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz, former Bills defensive coordinator, still playing that wide

934
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Speaker 2: nine scheme, and it's effective, especially when you've got a

935
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Speaker 2: guy like Miles Garrett screaming off the edge. But you're right,

936
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Speaker 2: they really did spin the dial on Drake. May never

937
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Speaker 2: gave him the same look more than twice in that

938
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Speaker 2: second half. And it's like I said earlier, he was

939
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Speaker 2: as indecisive as I have seen him in his year

940
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Speaker 2: plus in the NFL. He was even and he was

941
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Speaker 2: off the mark too. On some of his throws. As

942
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Speaker 2: you say all the time, Steve, you got to play

943
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: well on that day. Drake May did not play well

944
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Speaker 2: on that day.

945
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Speaker 1: I think on the second half, I think you have

946
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Speaker 1: to give full marks to the Bills defense because May

947
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: looked pretty good in the first half and they took

948
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Speaker 1: it away from him. And yeah, I think the confusion

949
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: for the split second that it took May to sort

950
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Speaker 1: through what they were doing was just enough to give

951
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Speaker 1: the Bills the edge. And and I'll say this too,

952
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Speaker 1: Milonald got the two sacks, they sent some extra pressure

953
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Speaker 1: and all of that, but the secondary without Christian Benford

954
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: held up. They really held up against New England, and

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00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: that that was big. We didn't I know, a lot

956
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: of people were ringing their hands with Christian Benford out

957
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: with the toe injury. But man o'man Trey White and

958
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: Max Harrison and Tarren Johnson they made some plays. Now,

959
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: certainly they got some hay made on them in the

960
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: first half, but when they got it together and everybody

961
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: got on the same page, they had what it took

962
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Speaker 1: to shut it down. It was impressive.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but we are coming

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Speaker 2: your in didn't reaction social post when you provided your

991
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: own personal opinion update on the NFL MVP race and

992
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 2: how Josh Allen has taken the whip down the stretch

993
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: here and has climbed in to the race with three

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Speaker 2: regular season games to play your thoughts.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's just been very impressive this last stretch. And

996
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 8: you guys know I've said this, there were moments I

997
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 8: just didn't think Josh was playing good enough to really

998
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 8: warrant being in that conversation. I didn't think he played

999
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 8: good in some games. But I'll go back to the

1000
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 8: context of what's going on in this run that they're on,

1001
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 8: and obviously twenty one to nothing down on the road

1002
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 8: versus a good football team, a division rival who's having

1003
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 8: a great season, and of course going down twenty one nothing,

1004
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 8: it takes a lot of people. But there were some

1005
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 8: big time plays. I mean, I don't know if there's

1006
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 8: any bigger than that touchdown pass the Knox, but the

1007
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 8: ball to Cook down to really start that second half

1008
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 8: after the huge kick return, the dump off to Knocks

1009
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 8: on that little ball fake. And so it's a really

1010
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 8: big performance by Josh. And I'll continue to reiterate. While

1011
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 8: very good offensive line, you can make the case it's

1012
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 8: the worst wide receiver group in the NFL, certainly for

1013
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 8: a contender. Yet they're scoring almost at will. When they

1014
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 8: need to have it, they find ways to have it

1015
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 8: or make it happen. Cookie's been great, the defense was great.

1016
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 8: But what Josh is doing right now, I would say

1017
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 8: it's probably a you know two at the top between

1018
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 8: him and Matthew Stafford. As Drake May's still in it, Yes,

1019
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 8: is Jordan Love and McCaffrey's still in the conversation for sure,

1020
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 8: But I think with three weeks to go, it's it's

1021
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 8: probably one of those two guys. If you had to

1022
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 8: ask me today, who would I vote for it today?

1023
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 8: If I had to, I'd still probably lean Stafford. But

1024
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Speaker 8: I think Josh is right there.

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00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: We've kind of shifted our conversation because of you know

1026
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: that time of year. We've got three games left, looks

1027
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: like there's kind of a line of demarcation, you get

1028
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: to Houston at the number seven seed the AFC, I

1029
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: was telling Brown in this all four divisions in the

1030
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: AFC have different leaders than they did twelve months ago.

1031
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: All four divisions are being led by a different team

1032
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: this year. And it's it's wide open now, certainly the

1033
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: five and six seed in the In the AFC, it's

1034
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: it's the Chargers and the Bills, both of whom have

1035
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: only four losses. And then it gets down to Indianapolis

1036
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: with six Houston with five. Do you think there's gonna

1037
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: be any more shifting between Houston and Indianapolis? Looks like

1038
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: they're leaking oil and Houston doesn't. So are you how

1039
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: sure are you that the top seven teams with Denver,

1040
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: New England, Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, the Chargers, Buffalo, Houston? How you

1041
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: know how set in stone do you think the playoffs

1042
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: are right now? On the AFC side, Yeah.

1043
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 8: They feel pretty much set in stone. For six out

1044
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 8: of the seven, Steve, I'd say the only one that

1045
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 8: probably in my eyes, realistically can fluctuate would be it's

1046
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 8: Burger Baltimore, depending upon who wins more than likely that

1047
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 8: Week eight team game, and that probably determines who's going

1048
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Speaker 8: to be that division winner. They're not going to get

1049
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Speaker 8: two in the division, but I do think six out

1050
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 8: of those seven are a set. Now, could you know

1051
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 8: New England falloff and Buffalo win the division? Sure doesn't

1052
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Speaker 8: seem likely, but it feels like that the playoffs for

1053
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 8: the most part are set outside of the AFC South No.

1054
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Speaker 1: Excuse me, right, yeah, North, Yeah, I know. You also

1055
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: commented on this on social media and on NFL Live.

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Speaker 2: The defensive play calling in the second half really varied,

1057
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Speaker 2: huge variety of stuff. It's as indecisive as I have

1058
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Speaker 2: seen Drake May in his year plus in the NFL.

1059
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Speaker 2: And to the player's credit, they also executed. You can

1060
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Speaker 2: have a great play call, but you need the guys

1061
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 2: to execute as well. But I can't remember the last

1062
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Speaker 2: time I saw a three d lineman, three linebackers and

1063
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Speaker 2: you know, five dbs. I'm looking at some of these

1064
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: formations and I'm saying, okay, that's a new one.

1065
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Speaker 1: All right, haven't seen that Joey Bosa is dropping out?

1066
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: What is going on here? So I can only imagine

1067
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Speaker 1: what Drake May was thinking in real time. What do

1068
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: you make of Bobby Babbage coach McDermott really kind of

1069
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: spinning the wheel and never really letting Drake May get

1070
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Speaker 1: comfortable there in the second half.

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Speaker 8: Here's reason why they win that game. It was a

1072
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Speaker 8: masterclass when it comes to rolodex we call that. You know,

1073
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Speaker 8: it's just flipping through the roll indecks of play calls.

1074
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Speaker 8: It's a masterclass on being multiple and I agree that.

1075
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Speaker 8: You know, there's moments when you can tell the youth

1076
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Speaker 8: of Drake shows up a little bit. And candidly, Chris,

1077
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 8: I was surprised because in the moment I was thinking

1078
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 8: to myself, if I was commentating that game JJ Watt was,

1079
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 8: I would have said, this is where having a guy

1080
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 8: like Josh McDaniels is a huge benefit for Drake May.

1081
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 8: Because Josh has been around and seen it for so long,

1082
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 8: and from second down to third down that eight different

1083
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 8: times they had it, there wasn't the same look once.

1084
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 8: And there's two ways to really impact a quarterback when

1085
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 8: it comes to really his play. You can either speed

1086
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 8: them up or slow them down. And they don't have

1087
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 8: the horses to speed them up. That's a Houston style

1088
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 8: of defense, so slowing him down is making him think

1089
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 8: an extra two tenths of a second, giving that cast

1090
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 8: of doubt of what he's looking at. And the reality

1091
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 8: is this team is built to allow the coverage to

1092
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 8: help the rush rather than the rush to help the coverage.

1093
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 8: It's a very good cover unit. And I'll go back

1094
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 8: to shoot. I remember two weeks ago against Cincinnati being like, Yo,

1095
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 8: they covered good. They just got beat with great throws,

1096
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 8: and I think you saw it again. Their coverage unit

1097
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 8: is high end.

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00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1099
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: To that point, though, the one thing that perplexed me

1100
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: is you still had a lead in the early stages

1101
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: of the second half, and can you explain why McDaniels

1102
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: completely abandoned.

1103
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,959
Speaker 1: The run game there?

1104
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: I mean, they just went away from it completely and

1105
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: they had success in the first half.

1106
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I think part of this is, you know,

1107
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 8: because we got into it with Marcus Spears yesterday about

1108
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 8: that three rushes. So I think they only had three

1109
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 8: series in the second half. I believe they had the

1110
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 8: ball for like seven minutes. So like their first series,

1111
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 8: they get a first down, they throw the ball on

1112
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 8: first down, New England does. It's incomplete. So now you're

1113
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 8: in that second and ten world. That would probably be

1114
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 8: a time like, hey, maybe pop a run, they don't

1115
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 8: a nice coverage rotation. Now we're in third and long

1116
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 8: hunt it. They get the ball again, Henderson rips off

1117
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 8: the long run, so they score, and then I believe

1118
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 8: the third time they got the ball was only like

1119
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 8: a minute or something left in the clock, And so

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00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 8: I think part of it was because Buffalo got the

1121
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 8: ball long drive. So I just don't think they had

1122
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 8: a ton of opportunity New England to actually run the football.

1123
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 8: And there's maybe a snap or two where I can

1124
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 8: sit there and say, should have tried to pop a

1125
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 8: run there. Other than that, a part of it was

1126
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 8: just they did not have the football to really tried

1127
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 8: to re establish that run game, and they popped off

1128
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 8: a long run and won.

1129
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's for the entire second half. They had five possessions,

1130
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: but only one of them was it was of any worth.

1131
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: It had seven plays in it. They had a two

1132
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: three and ounce, and they had past scoring drive that

1133
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: had a one play scoring drive that, if you look

1134
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: at the big picture, actually crushed them. Their defense was gassed,

1135
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: had to come right back out on the field and

1136
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: it was as though that he hadn't hit any break. Uh.

1137
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: It was really weird to think about. But yeah, they

1138
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: had four possessions in the second half that were three

1139
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: four plays or less one of four plays, two three

1140
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: and outs, and a one play scoring drive. They really

1141
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: didn't have that much information to work with, and I

1142
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: couldn't believe, but he was. I said, somebody say it.

1143
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: They were right. That one place scoring drive crushed them.

1144
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a great point. I would love to know

1145
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 8: the plays before that one place scoring drive and after,

1146
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 8: because I think the drive right before that one place

1147
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 8: scoring drive I want to say was it felt like

1148
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 8: a fifteen play drive, so then the one play and

1149
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 8: then another probably ten plus play scoring drive. So yeah,

1150
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 8: I just think it was thirteen from Buffalo. It was

1151
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 8: a perfect storm of possession.

1152
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1153
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: Fast forwarding to the Browns Dan obviously for the Bills offense,

1154
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: it begins it ends with Miles Garrett.

1155
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: First, what have.

1156
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: Most teams attempted to do to try to at least

1157
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: slow him down to some degree? And what do you

1158
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: think the Bills personnel can do that could work at

1159
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: least at times, because nobody ever truly stops Miles Garrett.

1160
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, every play there's four hands on him, two sets

1161
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 8: every play, run pass, first down, third down, I don't care.

1162
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 8: It's a little bit kind of what at least you

1163
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 8: hope the plan against a Houston would be. But it's

1164
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 8: harder to do against Houston with two ridiculous guys in

1165
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 8: the outside and very good on the inside. So a

1166
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 8: lot of teams are just four hands on them. A

1167
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 8: lot of teams are moving, you know, they're constantly moving

1168
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 8: the quarterback. They're not having him be in the pocket

1169
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 8: and standstill. The ball's coming out relatively quickly. They're trying

1170
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 8: to kick the ball to the perimeter, and so this,

1171
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 8: you know, it's a talented defensive unit that has had

1172
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 8: moments when they've played very high end football. It's not

1173
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 8: only Miles Sweassenger. Their rookie linebacker has been fantastic. He's

1174
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 8: probably in the conversation for a defensive rookie ar year,

1175
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 8: even though the team performance has been really poor and

1176
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 8: the secondary's good coverage unit. So but Miles, you know,

1177
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 8: the team that I would tell you probably did the

1178
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 8: overall best job was Pittsburgh probably two months ago. Pittsburgh

1179
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 8: doubled them every single play and they moved the quarterback

1180
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 8: outside the pocket probably eight to ten times that game.

1181
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 8: If you don't allow him to ruin the football game.

1182
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 8: This is a game that you know, you should have

1183
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 8: some decent success offensively.

1184
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: When you look at the other side of the ball.

1185
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: Of course, Shaduor Sanders has gotten a lot of conversation about,

1186
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, not where he was drafted, but the fact

1187
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: they had like five guys playing quarterback. They traded away

1188
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: their opening day starter mid season. I mean it, I mean,

1189
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: you're right you a movie script would be would be disbelievable.

1190
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have any credibility the way they've run their

1191
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: quarterback room. But Shaduur's in there now. He's had flashes

1192
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: of pretty good play. What is their offense trying to

1193
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: do around shador to give him some success? And you

1194
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: know where are their strengths?

1195
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, Steve number one, I'll tell you, Like the strength

1196
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 8: is him throwing the ball down the field. He's a

1197
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 8: really good deep ball thrower, and that's something that they

1198
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 8: want to try and consistently do. He's confident in it.

1199
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 8: Isaiah Bond is a guy that he's got a good

1200
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 8: connection with when it comes to kind of seeing it

1201
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 8: the same way and tracking the football. That's what they

1202
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 8: want to do now. Tommy Reese is taking over as

1203
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 8: their play caller. Little bit more creativity with some of

1204
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 8: their pre snap stuff, but from a pass game perspective,

1205
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 8: that's kind of what they want to do. The other

1206
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 8: part pass game wise, rookie tight end Harrold Fannin is

1207
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 8: a little bit like a Kincaid for Bills fans. Very

1208
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 8: good athlete. They like to try to create match teams

1209
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 8: with them. They're constantly moving him to create those choice routes.

1210
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 8: I can go out, I can go in, I could sit.

1211
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 8: He's a very smart player, savvy, really good route runner,

1212
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 8: so like matching him up is going to be a

1213
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 8: big deal. But there's also a rookie running back in

1214
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 8: Quinn Shawn Jenkins who's fantastic. He's got great balance, his strong,

1215
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 8: outstanding burst, its touches. They'll throw them the screen game,

1216
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 8: they'll hand them the football off. You're gonna have to

1217
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 8: tackle well, both in between and out on the perimeter.

1218
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 8: In between the tackles and outside the premier. It's a

1219
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 8: very good young class in Cleveland and those are some

1220
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 8: of their rookies. So yes, Chador is part of it,

1221
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 8: but you gotta pay attention to Judkins.

1222
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Judkins a great tackle break here you have. If

1223
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: you're the first guy to him, you got to get

1224
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: him on the ground or at least hang on and

1225
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: wait for help, because he is a load and Fannin's

1226
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: their leading receiver this season.

1227
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: Dan appreciate the time. As always, We'll let you get

1228
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 2: out of here and we'll catch up with you next week.

1229
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 8: Thanks guys.

1230
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: All right, Dan Orlowski, ESPN NFL analyst joining us as

1231
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: he does every Tuesday, and his appearance is on One

1232
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Caesar's Sports Book. Yeah, Fannon came

1233
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: from right down the road, bowling green out. Yeah, he's

1234
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: right down the road. So in state kid, much like

1235
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: quin Shawn Judkins Ohio State. You know, like they they

1236
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: drafted a really good class there, like in a couple

1237
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: of years that they can hang on and develop some

1238
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: of these guys. They have some talent at the skill positions.

1239
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: I just don't know if that coaching staff is going

1240
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: to be the one coaching them next year.

1241
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: That's that's the issue.

1242
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: Three and eleven. You know, another down season, another lost

1243
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: season really for the Browns. But I'm curious as to

1244
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: the matchup with inspect Steve to You heard Dan say

1245
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: one of Schudor's strengths is the deep ball, and we

1246
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: know the Bills defense plays top down. They don't give

1247
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 2: you anything cheap or deep, so he's gonna have to

1248
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: settle for more underneath stuff. He cannot sit there and

1249
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: tap the ball and hope something deep opens up down

1250
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: the field.

1251
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. Yeah, the Bills are really good

1252
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: at it. I mean they didn't give up any deep

1253
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: balls yet last week that amounted anything. The one on

1254
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: the opening series shouldn't have been caught and it wasn't

1255
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: a catch.

1256
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 7: Uh.

1257
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: And remember Todavius was really good in the corner of

1258
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: the end zone on Mac Collins when they both went

1259
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: up for and he came down and knocked it away.

1260
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: And then of course the other long ball, Tore Davis

1261
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: actually came up with an interception. Now Max Max was

1262
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: susceptible to it, but they were going against two weeks

1263
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: ago with Jamar Chase and te Higgins. Those are different Cats.

1264
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, that it might that game against Cincinnati might

1265
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: entice the Bengal of the Browns to try it. But yeah,

1266
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: you got to feel good about that. Those are hard

1267
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: passes to complete. They're really difficult to complete even when

1268
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: you're good at it. Yeah, they're hard to complete, particularly

1269
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: when a defense expects it or at least puts that

1270
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: as the number one priority. So it's uh, yeah, obviously

1271
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: the Bills are the better football team. But the Browns,

1272
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean, any team, you know, they can catch lightning

1273
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: in a bottle, have a couple of things to go

1274
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: their way, and all of a sudden, they get some confidence,

1275
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: and you lose a little confidence, particularly in the road environment,

1276
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: and the game turns against you. So I think that's

1277
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: kind of the scenario of the Browns and the Browns

1278
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: fans kind of have to hope for. But this Bills

1279
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: team's playing really well right now. Yeah, particularly the second

1280
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: half of that game and against the Cincinnati Bengals. They're

1281
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: just they know what they've got in the tank. And

1282
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: I'll bet at this point it feels to the Bills

1283
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: players like we got it when we need it. Yeah.

1284
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: I just checked the forecast for Sunday in Cleveland. No

1285
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: priests in the forecast high of thirty eight, low of

1286
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: twenty seven, supposed to be overcast. There is some wind

1287
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: that's supposed to be a factor at the very beginning

1288
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: of the game, but that's supposed to dissipate as the

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Speaker 2: afternoon moves along.

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Speaker 1: It's going to feel like a day at the beach

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Speaker 1: after some of the stuff they've been going through. Hey, right,

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Speaker 1: there have been some Cleveland road games. I Blizzard, I

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01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: did that game for CBS, me and Gus. Yeah, oh

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01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: my god, that thing was a joke. And then there

1295
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: was another one where the wind was just insane. I mean,

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01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: I realized the stadium is right there on the lake,

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Speaker 1: but holy crow like, I'm up in the press box

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Speaker 1: looking down there going I am game that got moved

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Speaker 1: to Detroit, yes, two years ago, but that was a

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Speaker 1: home game. I was supposed to be here. Yeah. Still

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Speaker 1: though our weather was the problem, not Cleveland. It goes

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Speaker 1: with the matchup though, right, well, yeah, it's all par

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Speaker 1: for the course, right, It's all pretty much the same

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. We're both on the lake. We know

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Speaker 1: what we're in for.

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Speaker 2: But it looks like it's going to be for Cleveland

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: and Buffalo terms relatively tank on Sunday for a mid

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01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,479
Speaker 2: December Bills have had.

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Speaker 1: Two snow games in a row, although the New England

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: game that was snow and it didn't.

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Speaker 2: They have a heated coil system under their field, so

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Speaker 2: the snow never accumulates on their field.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's what we'll have in the.

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Speaker 2: New place because they've got that heated coil system under

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01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: the grass field, so it shouldn't accumulate. Although I wonder

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01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: how sloppy it'll get, because if you're melting the snow

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01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: into a grass surface, do you have to worry about it?

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Speaker 1: Getting a little money? They may have do they have

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01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: they have expert drainage, but well, yeah, the drainage is

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Speaker 1: one thing, and I know there's it's possible too now

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01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: that you put a vacuum pump on something and it'll

1322
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: suck the water out of it and dry it out

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01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: if you want to cow. I don't know if we've

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Speaker 1: got that or not. They've got to have it. Let's

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: go technology with a capital T. Either way, that's that's

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Speaker 1: for another day. It is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to take a break here, but we

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01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: will get to the phone calls when we get back.

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01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: So if you're holding at eight O three five fifty,

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Speaker 2: stay where you are. We'll get to you when we return.

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Speaker 2: You're on a Tuesday edition of One Bills Live out

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Speaker 2: here at World Headquarters for New Era CAP one sixty

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Speaker 2: Delaware Avenue, Come by and say hi and make a

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Speaker 2: hat purchase and a donation of Key Moore.

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Speaker 5: Western New York.

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Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bill's, in partnership with the NFL, the National

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01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: Federation of State High School Associations, and the New York

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01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 2: State Association of Certified Football Officials, wish to honor five

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Speaker 2: football officials from the Rochester Chapter as the Crew of

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01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: the Month for November for enhancing the student athlete experience

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Speaker 2: for high school football players in the region. The men,

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Speaker 2: with nearly one hundred combined years of officiating experience include

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Speaker 2: David Cohan, Darren Tyson, Billy Bow, Scott englerth and Brian Labagan.

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01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 2: The crew is recognized as the highest ranking crew in

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Speaker 2: the Rochester area for their excellence, consistency, and integrity. Congratulations

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Speaker 2: got to get back to the phones at eight O

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Speaker 2: three zero five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 2: two five point fifty is We've been asking you, what

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 2: is your remedy for the Bills to get off to

1350
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,839
Speaker 2: a faster start in football game? Slow starts have forced

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01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: comeback efforts to the phones. We go into Tom on

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01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 2: the West Side, what he got for his town.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, that's an amazing story you're in. I could

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 4: spend all day in there and buy the fifty to

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01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 4: fifty one hats. You could buy a footed hat. That's

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Speaker 4: why I know I'm at seven and a quarter and

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01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 4: the word to Ryan, Happy victory Tuesday. And to answer

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01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: Samuel's question, I'm gonna put on Steve's tenfoil hat and

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01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 4: predict that's gonna be a one o'clock game. Now, as

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01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 4: far as it getting Sunday in the game this week,

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01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 4: when the Bills started out Sunday, you told me what

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01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 4: you saw. They weren't playing a lot of twelve thirteen personnel.

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 4: They were trying to run the ball out of out

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Speaker 4: of an RPO. And when even when they did play

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 4: the twelve thirteen percon so now it seemed like Cook

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01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 4: he was always trying to run off. He was trying

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01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 4: to run to the weak side instead of using the

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Speaker 4: blockers to his advantage. In the second half, they did

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Speaker 4: a much better job of that. Now, as far as

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Speaker 4: the defense goes, I still think we got to stick

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Speaker 4: with mostly the four to three because we have to

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Speaker 4: stop the run. Now, you can disguise that by having

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: one of the linebackers drop back in under the nickel

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Speaker 4: position and then move up into the four to three.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead and tell me what you guys saw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as far as Cook goes, I'm gonna

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01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: be one of the last people to criticize that guy's

1378
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: vision and decision making because ninety nine times out of

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Speaker 2: one hundred, he's making the right call. And if he

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01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 2: doesn't see anything front side and he only sees a

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01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: corner out there on the backside, he believes he can

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: outrace the corner to the edge, and more often than

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01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: not he has this season, And so I'm not gonna

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01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 2: knock him. The personnel usage, I mean, defensively in that

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01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 2: game last week, every time the Patriots brought big personnel

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: on the field, they matched it with base defense and

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: then otherwise played nickel and very little time in that

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01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: game last week, or at least less than they usually do.

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Speaker 1: I thought, the only thing I noticed about the run

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01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: game last week is they didn't run the toss at all.

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Speaker 1: They ran it inside the tackles. Now, certainly Cook didn't

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Speaker 1: always go inside the tackles, but that's where the point

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01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: of attack was. They were not afraid to run up

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Speaker 1: inside all day and that's what they did. Cook was,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the you know, he didn't have he

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Speaker 1: didn't have any long runs the other day. I mean

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Speaker 1: his longest run of the day was like twelve yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was twelve yards. He had twenty two carries and

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Speaker 1: along was twelve. So he was getting hit and it

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: was a traffic a traffic running day. But he ran

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Speaker 1: up in between the tackles almost exclusive all day. Now.

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Speaker 1: He bounced it a couple of times, of course, but

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Speaker 1: that's where they were. That's their game that was their

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01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: game plan, and it worked. So what you gotta know

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Speaker 1: is when you when you're running it in there like that,

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: they the back usually and I know Thurman was really

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Speaker 1: good at this, and I imagine James is too. He

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Speaker 1: knows exactly where it's supposed to go. He knows of

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Speaker 1: what it's supposed to look like. But they never tell

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Speaker 1: the running back, the guy with the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 1: how to run it. This is where we think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be, here's the ball. Do what you think and

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01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: that's that's universal. That's universal. Uh So, uh, James Cook

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Speaker 1: did an excellent job last week, not only keeping it

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Speaker 1: inside when he needed to, but also being patient. There

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01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: was a couple of times when he stopped just shy

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01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, let the blockers develop and get

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Speaker 1: to the second level, and then he burst and stops.

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01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: He's he's great. So I don't know, I don't have

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01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: a problem with anything that he did. Uh last Sunday,

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Speaker 1: And I think the running game plan, I think it

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: worked exactly like they wanted it to, exactly like they

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01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: wanted to and for most of the game too. That

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Speaker 1: includes the first half when they were able to stay

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01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: on the field and not for nothing.

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Speaker 2: That's a number three run defense in football. Yeah, I

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01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: mean they're giving up eighty seven yards a week on

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01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: the ground. It's the third best tally in the league.

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01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: And the Bills got one hundred and twenty I think

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Speaker 2: on them right total.

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Speaker 1: Or something like that. Well, Josh had a bunch oh

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01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: that's right, count and Joshing Ty Johnson and yeah, they

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: had one hundred and twenty between Ty Johnson and James

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: Cook and then Josh threw in forty eight. Right to

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Speaker 1: Bob in Syracuse.

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Speaker 6: What's up, Bob, Hey, guys, just a question in a combat.

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Speaker 6: My first comment, I have a tremendous amount of respect

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 6: from Craig Closel. But at the same time, I just

1439
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 6: don't understand how you could justify saying that the Bills

1440
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 6: are limited in talent when you have the number one

1441
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 6: rushing offense in the NFL, probably the best tight end

1442
01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 6: combination in the NFL talent wise, and probably a couple

1443
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 6: of the best tackles and guards and centers. You know,

1444
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 6: there's a lot of talent. Maybe I'm mistaken, but there's

1445
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 6: a lot of talent there. I think. I don't I

1446
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 6: don't understand that. But my other comment is directing towards Steve. Steve,

1447
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 6: you were a an excellent kickoff return specialist and later

1448
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 6: in your career, especially especially on part returns kick returns,

1449
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 6: and you ran a lot like Ray Davis does, and

1450
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 6: he hits the hole. He just there's absolutely zero hesitation.

1451
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 6: He runs straight north and south and that's what. And

1452
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 6: he's fast, and he's he's and he's quick in agile,

1453
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 6: and he's a weapon. But I'm just wondering, and please

1454
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 6: give me some insight on this, if you can. He

1455
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 6: seems to hesitate a little bit in the backfield, and

1456
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 6: I'm just curious why, And maybe it's just stupid question.

1457
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 6: He doesn't employ some of the same north South running techniques,

1458
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 6: and he doesn't get a lot of looks now and

1459
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 6: he got a lot of looks last year. And I

1460
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 6: just I know James is playing fantastic, but I think

1461
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 6: Ray could be a whap and if he's used properly,

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01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 6: I'll let you let's your comment on it. Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, they're they look a lot, they

1464
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,759
Speaker 1: look similar, but they're not. Kickoff return is very different

1465
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: from playing running back. And yeah, I don't think it's

1466
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: I don't think Ray is not getting touches because at

1467
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: running back because of anything he's doing or not doing

1468
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: or not doing. I think it's I think it's what

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01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: James and Tyre doing that has set that. Plus his

1470
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: emergence is of return guy. It I know this is fact.

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01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: If you got a return guy, the less you give

1472
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: him to do offensively or defensively if he's a dB,

1473
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: the better he'll return kicks. You got to leave him

1474
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 1: that and that alone has to stay on his plate

1475
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: and very limited in what you give him outside of

1476
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: the kick return and duties, because once you get outside

1477
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: of that, you spend so much time thinking about what's

1478
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: outside of your kick return dues. You get your time, yeah,

1479
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: and it just it really quickly. Your kick return duties

1480
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: dropped down the priority list and they just you're just

1481
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: not as good. You got to concentrate on it to

1482
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 1: be good at it. Ray is good at it.

1483
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 9: Uh.

1484
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: I know that kick he took back sixty five yards

1485
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: or whatever it was to, you know, to open the

1486
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: second half. I mean he didn't deviate. It looked like

1487
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: he weaved a little bit. And that was it. One

1488
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: thing he did do and one thing that I did,

1489
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: and I found very effective that I've not seen guys

1490
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: do that. It was really effective for me. And maybe

1491
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm just old. I always used to like to take

1492
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: one or two steps hard as soon as I caught

1493
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: the ball and then go back to and then change direction.

1494
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: Just take two or three hard steps to the to

1495
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: the opposite side of the returns going to and then

1496
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: cut and go. You as a kick returner, you have

1497
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: time to do that, yeah, because the guys are you know,

1498
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: there's so much ground there and by doing those two

1499
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: or three hard steps, and I know this is a

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Speaker 1: coverage guy. You all of a sudden, man, you are

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01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: hell bent on getting over there where he takes those

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01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: two or three hard steps. In reality, the return's going

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01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: the other way, and all you do as a return

1504
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: guy is set up every coverage guy to be blocked.

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: And I don't see guys doing that now. One of

1506
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: the things I saw, and the reason I brought it up,

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01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: is I saw Ray do that subtly when he caught

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01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: the ball bringing it out for the opening second half.

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01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 1: He took a couple of hard steps left and then cut.

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01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: It would look more like a weave, but when you

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01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 1: see it from the end zone, it was a hard

1512
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: left look and then he came back right a little bit,

1513
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: and you'll see that it really set the coverage guys up.

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01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: It really impacts him because they know everything's full speed

1515
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: if you if you give him a direction, they got

1516
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: to cut the angle right, so they got a plant

1517
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: and go hard, and he came back the other way

1518
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: and it gave him a crease that he took advantage of.

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01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: I will say that Ray by nature is a north

1520
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 2: south runner, and so I think that helps him on

1521
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 2: kick return when it is time to hit the hole

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01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 2: because he's used to doing that as a running back.

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01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 2: It's not the same thing, but the same skill set

1524
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 2: is required to do it well, and so I think

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01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 2: his north south running style benefits him on kick return.

1526
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing, because the caller was asking,

1527
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 2: why doesn't he adopt some of what James does and

1528
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 2: you know, bounce it or wait and then stop. And

1529
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: he is not the same stop and start athlete that

1530
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 2: James Cook is, nor is he got the.

1531
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: Same speed as James. James can get back.

1532
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 2: James can stop on a dime get back up to

1533
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: top speed in two steps.

1534
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: It might take Ray four.

1535
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 2: And a lot of times when he does try to

1536
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 2: bounce a run outside, he can't get the corner because

1537
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the same elite quickness, speed and elusiveness

1538
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: that James has. So he when he sticks to downhill

1539
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: running and they call downhill in between the tackle plays

1540
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 2: for him. I believe that's when he's most effective.

1541
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things I think the Bills are

1542
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: suffering in right now is their punk return game. Shakir's

1543
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: back there, and he's on the field a ton offensive

1544
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: exactly right, They're they're missing some opportunities and even even

1545
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: the thing you gotta do if you're Khalil, whether you

1546
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: return or not, you gotta field it. He's not he's

1547
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: letting the ball bounce too often. Now, they got a

1548
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 1: couple of bad kicks or whatever. But you gotta field

1549
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: the football every time you can get to it and

1550
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: far to catch it if you have to. But you

1551
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: can't let the thing hit the ground. And and because

1552
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: he's so much involved in the offense and has such

1553
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: a role, he can't concentrate on that. Well, that's where

1554
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: Mikole Hardman might come in. Handy coming off. You need

1555
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: a guy, yes, you need a guy that is focused

1556
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: on the return game and he can think about the

1557
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: decisions he makes, think about the time in the game.

1558
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: I said it yesterday and I still believe it. One

1559
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: of the best things that Ray Davis did yesterday, aside

1560
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: from the return. He kept that other kick in the

1561
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: end zone after after the sixty five yarder. Just taking

1562
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: the let's go out and let the offense come back out.

1563
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: Get him on the field now, don't take a chance

1564
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: on something bad happening, either getting tackled inside the twenty,

1565
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: blowing the momentum, giving their team some momentum, or god forbid,

1566
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: fumbling or fumbling it. Yeah, just taking knee, let the

1567
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: offense come back out and pick right up where it

1568
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: left off. So all of that stuff goes into the

1569
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: hopper of being a good return guy. And I think

1570
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: on the kickoff side, obviously Ray Davis is doing a

1571
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: great job, but because Khalil is committed to the offense first,

1572
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: and he should be. You know, they're missing something in

1573
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: the return game, in the punt return game to Rick

1574
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: in Denver and Nex, what's up Rick?

1575
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 9: Hey, guys. You know, one of the things I've noticed

1576
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 9: over the last three games is that they start off

1577
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 9: the first half in a four man front, and then

1578
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 9: in the second half they start running a lot of exotic,

1579
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 9: you know, blitzes, and I'm not sure why they don't

1580
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 9: start blitzing earlier.

1581
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: You know.

1582
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 9: The other thing, too, is Ryan Nielsen came over from Jacksonville.

1583
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 9: I don't think the guy gets enough credit because his

1584
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 9: fingerprints are all over a lot of the second half adjustments.

1585
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 9: I mean, I know we talk a lot about Babbitch

1586
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 9: and McDermott, but I think Nielsen needs quite a bit

1587
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 9: of credit as well, So I'd like to see him.

1588
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 9: You know, Look, they don't have to blitz on every

1589
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 9: single play, but I mean, in the first half of

1590
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 9: some of these games, stop staying in a standard four

1591
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 9: man front, you know, and then dropping eight back into

1592
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 9: coverage or seven, I mean into coverage.

1593
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think, Trick.

1594
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 2: I think in an ideal world, Rick, you know where

1595
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: the base philosophy of this defense lies is to try

1596
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: to get pressure with their front four, and I think

1597
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 2: they try to start every game establishing that. When it

1598
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, they make their adjustments. It might be nice

1599
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 2: to see some of those happen sooner in the game

1600
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 2: than halftime, because it is evident that this coaching staff

1601
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: can adjust and make the necessary changes to make their

1602
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 2: players more effective out there.

1603
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 1: On the field.

1604
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 2: I actually asked Bobby Babbage that question probably about three

1605
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: weeks ago now, because this pattern has been pretty much

1606
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 2: in existence from the beginning of the season. They always

1607
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 2: play better in the second half on offense and on defense.

1608
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 2: I said, how do you go about making better calls

1609
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 2: earlier in games to help your players be more effective?

1610
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 2: Series like, we're working on that. But I also think

1611
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: you can plan and prepare as much as you want

1612
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: for your opponent that week. They're still going to have

1613
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: stuff in that opening script that you have not seen

1614
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: prepared for, you know what I mean, And so you're

1615
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: playing the adjustment game right from the start, and to say, well,

1616
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: why don't they make those adjustments at the beginning, because

1617
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: you don't know what they're gonna run until you see

1618
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: them run those first ten or twelve place.

1619
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: That's right. I think one of the reasons they're so

1620
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: good at the adjustments is because they're so good at

1621
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 1: dissecting what they're seeing, and you can't make the adjustments

1622
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: until you've seen it. I you're right, And I think

1623
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: also I think I said this yesterday on about the offense.

1624
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: We had a caller coming in saying, you know, they're

1625
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: a little predictable in it, and said, yeah, yeah, you're

1626
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: throwing out different packages all the time in the early

1627
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: part of that game to find out what they think

1628
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: of your personnel packages. Are they matching it or are

1629
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: they not matching it? And then if you're in this

1630
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: personnel package and this is what you have always done

1631
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: out of this package, you give it to them, see

1632
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: what they think, and see what they do, and then

1633
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 1: you attack them where with a compliment to that play

1634
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: or something on later in the game. So it's easy

1635
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: to understand why your side of the ball, your side,

1636
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: either side defense or offense. Your team gets better on

1637
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball as the game progresses because

1638
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: you get an idea of what the other team is

1639
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: worried about and then you can take advantage of it.

1640
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: And then so that's that's you know, that's simple. That's

1641
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: simple logic, but much more difficult to It's really hard

1642
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: to execute, particularly when the ebb and flow of the

1643
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: game gives you, you know, eleven plays in the first

1644
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: half or whatever, first quarter of the game and you

1645
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: don't have enough information to make adjustments. So it's it's

1646
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: a it's a double edged sword. Just you know, you

1647
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: just got to get on top of it.

1648
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: Break time for us here one final segment ago we'll

1649
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 2: try to squeeze in a phone call as we are

1650
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,599
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Speaker 2: more wny dot org. So that thing starts tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: runs through Christmas Eve. So you know you got your

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Speaker 2: Christmas shopping done and you want to help those in

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Speaker 2: need in your.

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Speaker 1: Western New York community. It's a good way and an

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Speaker 1: easy way to do it. And if you haven't got

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Speaker 1: your Christmas shopping done, come down to the New Air

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Speaker 1: Come down here, two birds with one st They got

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Speaker 1: some great stuff here. And thanks for New Air for

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01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: having us in here today. It's been great. Yeah that

1680
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: Dan Rofsky Mitch Morris on the show today. It was

1681
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: a great show and uh fun to be downtown here

1682
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and so we look forward to turning the

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01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: page and full on God in the Cleveland this weekend.

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01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 2: Got a couple of minutes to rip off some tweets

1685
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,719
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1687
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: Best way to get off to a faster start. Dean says,

1688
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: don't be so vanilla on opening drives and stick with

1689
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: base defense till they get a look at opposing team's

1690
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:43,839
Speaker 2: game plan. On offense, Harold says, take the opening kickoff

1691
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: and run the ball to keep the defense off the

1692
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: field early. Frank says, feed Cook in the run game

1693
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: and let it open up the play action plus the

1694
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 2: d to get a stop or two in the first half.

1695
01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 2: Believer says, swing pass to Cook to start the offensive series.

1696
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 2: Blitz on the first defensive play to jump start the d.

1697
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Especially this week facing a rookie quarterback Sean McDermott, defense

1698
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: do have a lot of success against rookie signal callers

1699
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: since he's been head coach of the Bills.

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01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: That's right, and he even as a defensive coordinatory had

1701
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: good success in Carolina. So I'm yeah, it's amazing that

1702
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Cook is sprinkled in through a lot of these you

1703
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: know how to get give him the ball on the ball, Hey,

1704
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: Good players make you great. Good players make you good.

1705
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: Great players make you greater. And James Cook, the more

1706
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: you give it to him, it's never a bad thing.

1707
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: The guy can really go. I'm he's been a huge plus.

1708
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Frank has a defensive message. He says, get off the blocks,

1709
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: fill the gaps and tackle. Sounds like a coach. I

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01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: like how you put Frank's voice in your voice.

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01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 2: That's what I pictured him sounding, right, That's how Frank sounds. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's it for us here at the New Era Cap Store,

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Speaker 2: but again starting tomorrow through Christmas Eve, come down, buy

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Speaker 2: a hat, make a donation, help the people that feed

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Speaker 2: more Western New York. That's it for us today, back

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Speaker 2: on the practice field with the players tomorrow and Ray

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Speaker 2: Davis on the show We'll see it one