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Speaker 3: What is up?

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Speaker 2: Metstup listeners?

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Speaker 1: Back here for episode number thirty seven of the met

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Speaker 1: stub podcast, the Casey Stangele episode of course, famous number

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Speaker 1: thirty seven New York Mets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not a lot great going on here in Mets Land.

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Speaker 1: You would have thought after the trade deadline and facing

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Speaker 1: the Reds and just how this Mets team has been playing,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot to look forward to here. Back

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Speaker 1: in black, the jerseys, everything Carrasco making his debut. You

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Speaker 1: would think that there was a lot to be excited

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Speaker 1: about in New York Metsland, but this weekend was terrible.

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Speaker 2: This weekend was awful.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have thought of a worse way to welcome

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Speaker 1: Injavey Bias to the Tri State area, to Queens, to Flushing.

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Speaker 1: We had a miserable, miserable weekend. So me and James,

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Speaker 1: of course are going to talk about the games during

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Speaker 1: the series, the trade deadline, as well as the Kamar

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Speaker 1: Rocker news, because well we have some Kamar Rocker news

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Speaker 1: and it's not great. You've probably heard it already, so

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Speaker 1: we'll give our two thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: James co host James Giano Jeter had no range me

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Speaker 1: up podcast. You can find the video form of what

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Speaker 1: we're doing right now. James, it's a dreary day. I

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Speaker 1: feel like in Metsland, we brought back the black jerseys

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Speaker 1: and it's almost symbolized some negative feelings here.

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Speaker 2: Little death, almost.

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Speaker 3: Nigerian pole bears. That's what we are right now. But

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Speaker 3: this is one of the worst weeks of the entire

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Speaker 3: met season. This was a willpon week.

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Speaker 2: This was a huge, huge willpon week.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's a term we've seen on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: huge willpon week.

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Speaker 2: I mean it got started with the trade deadline basically

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Speaker 2: this weekend. That was the big thing.

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Speaker 1: Friday, the Mets were expected to be aggressive buyers, pitching, hitting, bullpen,

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Speaker 2: So little hypocritical of me. I always say I will

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Speaker 1: I've said it. I can't really back down from that.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. That's super similar logic to why I

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Speaker 2: And we don't even have the one that we just

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it was about to go through. We traded

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Speaker 1: Also, like crazy the names that the Mets have taken

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like to go off PCA's prospect status too.

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Speaker 1: It's not a sure thing either with him, like it

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Speaker 1: Is so hard to get a guy who's a guaranteed

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Speaker 1: But there's still a lot of people who aren't sold

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Speaker 1: We know what we've given up in the past, and

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Speaker 3: Definitely. I always had a little bit of trouble seeing

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Speaker 2: It just feels like a cano contract that I'm not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been cool for Steve Cohen to

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Speaker 1: Last thing here about the trade deadline. Do you think

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Speaker 3: I definitely think so, honestly, Yeah, I do. And we

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Speaker 1: Imagine being the Padres. You thought you had Max Scherzer

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Speaker 3: Right now. I think that most people around baseball will

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Speaker 1: It felt like they just ran in and broke everything.

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Speaker 3: That, no, none, And I think the Mets probably also

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a shame. So Friday trade deadline, that's

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Speaker 3: strike two. But there was no point in that at

438
00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,000
Speaker 3: bat where it felt like Michael Conford that was putting

439
00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,880
Speaker 3: pressure on Sunny Gray, not even for a moment. And

440
00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,520
Speaker 3: the worst part of about it is that Carlos Carrasco

441
00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,960
Speaker 3: settled beautifully afterwards. If CONFORDO even could have just hit

442
00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,960
Speaker 3: a fly ball and we could have had the vibes

443
00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,840
Speaker 3: back with the lead after surrendering a home run, I

444
00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,600
Speaker 3: feel like we would have cruised to a victory. But

445
00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,520
Speaker 3: there was just no chance of that happening.

446
00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Conforida strikeout sucked. A double play would have been

447
00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,160
Speaker 1: great there. Unfortunately, Jonathan VR then hit into a double play,

448
00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,960
Speaker 1: almost beat it out, almost beat it out if he

449
00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,240
Speaker 1: had two bounces on that ground ball. He hit too

450
00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,120
Speaker 1: hard of a ground ball that's caused the double play.

451
00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,119
Speaker 3: Too good of a groundball. Good for VR. Yeah, but

452
00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,199
Speaker 3: I jinxed the Mets lineup. You've been calling me the

453
00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,879
Speaker 3: Jinks for a couple weeks now, and I was like

454
00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,000
Speaker 3: slapping you on the back, saying we're back. I lined

455
00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,240
Speaker 3: up his back. Can't stop this lineup. We're hitting machines.

456
00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,480
Speaker 3: And that was it.

457
00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,720
Speaker 1: But to be fair, the guys who had gotten to

458
00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,040
Speaker 1: the plate have been hitting recently. Nimo McNeil, Alonso and

459
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,560
Speaker 1: Don and Dom Dom's been a little streaky here and

460
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,919
Speaker 1: there whatever. Still not having a great year, but compared

461
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,760
Speaker 1: to Michael Confordo, he's an all Star.

462
00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,680
Speaker 3: We had four straight hits and all four guys ripped

463
00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,440
Speaker 3: the cover off the ball. Yeah, and then Can ruined

464
00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,240
Speaker 3: the whole thing. And I want to talk about before

465
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,800
Speaker 3: we lament the ending of this game, I want to

466
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,720
Speaker 3: talk about Carrasco because this was a very big bright

467
00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,920
Speaker 3: spot for the team, especially coming right on the heels

468
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,480
Speaker 3: of de gram news and right on the heels of

469
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,640
Speaker 3: the trade deadline not getting an impact pitcher. He does

470
00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,000
Speaker 3: seem like he's going to be an impact pitcher for

471
00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,880
Speaker 3: us going forward. He threw four innings, which was our prediction.

472
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,040
Speaker 3: Two times through the batting order. They had four strikeouts

473
00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,320
Speaker 3: in just a one run on India's solo blast. Because

474
00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,000
Speaker 3: that was really a blast. I wanted to undersell that

475
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,520
Speaker 3: home wind was blowing in. Yeah, the wind was blowing

476
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,080
Speaker 3: in from left field and India just cut right through

477
00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,800
Speaker 3: it like a fighter jet. But one major adjustment that

478
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,840
Speaker 3: Carlos Carrasco made in this start with the Mets. This

479
00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 3: seems like it's going to be a change from going forward.

480
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,240
Speaker 3: Is the usage of his sinker or to seem fastball.

481
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what people called it. I didn't really

482
00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,080
Speaker 3: I couldn't really glean anything from the pitch physics after

483
00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,399
Speaker 3: the game, like the movement whatever. But Savant listen as

484
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,120
Speaker 3: a sinker, So that's I'm gonna call it right now.

485
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,119
Speaker 3: He has not thrown it more than for about a

486
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,120
Speaker 3: fifth of his pitches in the last eight years, since

487
00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 3: he came back from missing all twenty twelve with an injury.

488
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was Tommy John rotel Craft.

489
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,720
Speaker 3: I can't remember, but I do remember being hurt and

490
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,359
Speaker 3: missing a season.

491
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember. That was before I cared about

492
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 1: Carlos Carrasco.

493
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Speaker 3: Honestly, well, being a fantasy baseball player, I've cared about

494
00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,159
Speaker 3: Carlos Carrasco for a clean decade. Was I happy with

495
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,639
Speaker 3: this guy? That sinker had three riiffs on eleven swings,

496
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,160
Speaker 3: which is a lot for a sinker. It doesn't seem

497
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 3: like a lot of the wives, but that's a lot

498
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,120
Speaker 3: for a sinker, especially only in four innings of work.

499
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 3: The Reds put it in play five times, they hit

500
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 3: three ground balls, and all five balls in play were outs.

501
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 3: It did not allow one hard hit ball. Carrasco himself

502
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 3: only allowed three hard hit balls for the next four

503
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 3: plus innings after the India League off home run. This

504
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 3: was as encouraging as of a debut as I possibly

505
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 3: could have hoped for, given the length of his absence

506
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 3: and the uncertainty regarding his health. And I just really

507
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 3: wish that this lineup and our bullpen could have picked

508
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,479
Speaker 3: him up more than they did.

509
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody picked up Carrasco.

510
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 1: And you thought that first inning, man, I was like,

511
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 1: holy crap, here we go. Like the first inning had

512
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 1: the feelings of like that's what a good teams does,

513
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 1: that's how they respond, Like that is why this Mets

514
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,159
Speaker 1: team is.

515
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 2: Gonna win the NL East.

516
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 3: It felt like a turning point and they potential turning.

517
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,360
Speaker 2: Play and they crumbled through the frigging shoes of Michael Conflorida.

518
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 2: I'm so I hate to I said, I hate to

519
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 2: be a dead horse, but my god, I'm so so

520
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,400
Speaker 2: with him. And I never thought I was gonna get

521
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,439
Speaker 2: to this point. I thought at some point he was

522
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 2: going to figure it out. I thought at some point

523
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 2: he was.

524
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: Gonna remember how to be even an okay baseball player.

525
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 1: He shouldn't even be starting in the outfield at this point.

526
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 1: He's he's killing this line, he's killing this team.

527
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 3: Definitely not against lefties, and I think the Mets have

528
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 3: made that adjustment. I doubt you see Michael Conford though

529
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 3: against the left handed pitcher moving forwards w C plus

530
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,959
Speaker 3: against lefties this year.

531
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Speaker 2: It's a fifty Jesus Christ.

532
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 3: That means Michael Conford though, is fifty percent worse than

533
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 3: replacement level right now, that's horrible.

534
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 2: That's not even a triple A player. That's like, it's

535
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 2: shockingly bad. He's just for a guy who's so good, Like,

536
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 2: what the fuck happened? Has he crumbled under the pressure

537
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 2: of a contract year he had to have?

538
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: I tweeted out today, I was like, I can't remember,

539
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 1: and someone replied with Cody Bellinger, so yes, but I

540
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 1: can't remember. Yeah, I can't remember a player as talented

541
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 1: as Michael CONFORDO just seemingly forget what he's doing, Like

542
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: he almost has like the yips of hitters, where it's

543
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 1: like I don't know how to hit.

544
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I don't know.

545
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 1: I don't know how to swing his swing at the

546
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 1: game today, which is just jumping forward a little bit randomly.

547
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 2: Looked her is terrible?

548
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 3: Is he hurt?

549
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: Is something wrong? Is he not his? Is his mental state? Okay?

550
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: Like if you told me that Michael Confordo was on

551
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen team and did all those things and

552
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 1: had this great year last year, I would laugh on

553
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 1: your face and be like, all right, yeah, good story.

554
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: He looks terribly.

555
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 3: He has no clue, No, he has no approach. The

556
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 3: question now I want to ask you is, let's say

557
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 3: he continues this season still kind of meandering where he

558
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: is like he is okay, like a little bit better

559
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 3: but still not great. Do you even extend him qualifying offer?

560
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: Do you want this guy on the team next year

561
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 3: for eighteen million dollars?

562
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 2: I'm done.

563
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm out on Conforda completely. I told you at the

564
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: deadline list, Drake Confordo. I feel like I couldn't have

565
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: been more like right in that if the Mets had

566
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: an opportunity to move him, they should have because I

567
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: don't know.

568
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: I hope he proves me wrong.

569
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Speaker 1: I hope he come back to that episode number thirty

570
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: seven of the Mets Up Podcast, and this is a

571
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: turning point for Michael Canforida.

572
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 2: But damn, I am not feeling good about that.

573
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 3: When I was at the game today, I just I've

574
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: haven't been to a Sunday afternoon game in very long

575
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: and I forgot. It's just the park is filled with children, yes,

576
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 3: So my section was just full of disgusting. We need

577
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: like children the whole game. There was this little but

578
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: some of them were nice, But there was just a

579
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: girl in front of me who had ice cream all

580
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 3: over her body and I was just like seething uncomfortableness

581
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: for her parents around her, like they were holding her

582
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 3: like arm and leg each and just like wiping ice

583
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 3: cream off of her body and off of the chairs

584
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: as a chocolate dripped down the decorative helmet. But there

585
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 3: was one little boy, like like a row or two

586
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: over Q kid. He was keeping the book definitely incorrectly

587
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: cause I don't think he could write, but he had

588
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: a book and a pencil, and he was wearing like

589
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 3: a regular Mets jersey and on the back like it

590
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: was like a jersey that had the Mets on it

591
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 3: blue and orange, but the back there was no number embroidered,

592
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: there was no number painted, there was no number printed.

593
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 3: It were pieces of paper color then that were cut

594
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: out from construction paper and color then blue and orange.

595
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 3: It's like can four though thirty. And I know for

596
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: a fact that this young man wanted them. Michael could

597
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 3: Ford though jersey be a couple of months ago, were

598
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, and his dad, knowing that

599
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: he wasn't gonna be with the team any longer, was

600
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: not gonna shill out the money to buy a youth

601
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: small jersey for his kid that was gonna grow out

602
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: of it. For a player that was gonna leave the team,

603
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 3: it was like, let's have a fun idea, let's make

604
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: our own Jery's. That's definitely what happened there. That's just

605
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: kind of how we feel con forurther right now, he's

606
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 3: almost like a dead man walking.

607
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 1: Now, he feels like a dead man walking. The booze

608
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: are getting louder and louder loud with every single at bat.

609
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: And I hate booing guys, typically, I really do, But boy,

610
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: oh boy, he deserves yeah boo today I did. I'm

611
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: I literally I'm so fed up because he's not even

612
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: making an attempt to change anything. And that's what drives

613
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: me crazy with players.

614
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

615
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: Whatever he's doing hasn't worked all year and he still stinks.

616
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: He hasn't made an adjustment, That's what it is. No

617
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: adjustment's been made to his game. And I think, while

618
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: you can't physically prove it, he is stunk all year.

619
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: If you stink all year from a guy who is

620
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: an All Star caliber player, something is physically wrong. There

621
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: is something fundamentally wrong with the way that you're playing baseball.

622
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 2: Freaking hit righty. I don't know. He can't play much

623
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: worse than he is lefty right now.

624
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: I can't vouch for that, but I don't. But what's

625
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: the adjustment? Like Makunfortho's always succeeded by like taking pitches

626
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 3: and working at bat.

627
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: And like he still is. He's still taking pitches well,

628
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: he still doesn't chase, but he just doesn't hit like

629
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: his Baseball Savant page is so confusing because he does

630
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: all the like patients and I thinks extremely well, it

631
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: doesn't swing a miss a lot and doesn't chase, but

632
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: he has he has to take the most called strikes

633
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball and he's been out for like

634
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: three weeks. I'd eve never seen someone look as at

635
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 1: as many pitches down the middle as Michael Gonfordo. Something

636
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: has to be fundamentally wrong with his hands or his load.

637
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: It's almost like he doesn't know how to play baseball.

638
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: I'm so over him.

639
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: I think you saying the the hitting yips is like

640
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: pretty on point, because his Baseball Savant page is like

641
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 3: kind of handsome, and his like ex wOBA is well

642
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: above league average, which is a shocking revelation. It's been

643
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: trending downwards for his last like twenty four the play appearances,

644
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: as every Mets fan cans out because he's been way, way,

645
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: way off. But he's not whipping, he's not chasing, he's

646
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: walking a lot. He's hitting the ball hard, he's getting

647
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: barrels at an above average.

648
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: Rate, and like the smart baseball player would tell you,

649
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: or the smart baseball fan would tell you, like it's

650
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: gonna come, It's gonna be okay. I'm I've been beating

651
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: that drum from so fucking tired of waiting. Where is it, dude?

652
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: Like the fact that in the biggest year of his

653
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: career he has crumbled so hard tells me, this dude

654
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have an ounce of confidence in his body.

655
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: And I think that Gary ron Keith, they've alluded to

656
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: that for a couple of years now, that there's just

657
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: something about con four though, where he doesn't have it,

658
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: like the end I talked about with Hobby, Like there's

659
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: something about Michael Confordo's game, his personality. I won't speak

660
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: to his work, that work ethic because I have no idea.

661
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: I'm not in the gym with these guys, but he

662
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: just has never been able to take the step that

663
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: Mets fans have expected basically since that twenty fifteen run,

664
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: his incredible sensational rookie second half. I don't know, maybe

665
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 3: this is better off and let this guy go. Yeah,

666
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 3: you gotta get back to this game though, because we're Rambley.

667
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeahm I that was my Conforido rant I needed it.

668
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: I needed to just spew garbage out of my mouth

669
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: because I was so frustrated with him.

670
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: But anyway, back to.

671
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: Game one, let's get to it, because it wasn't really

672
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: Michael Conforda's fault that we lost.

673
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: No, he could he could have helped.

674
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: He could have helped. He definitely could have helped.

675
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: He didn't the bullpen, Okay, I mean Cashro Drew Flow

676
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: it was our right. I mean Cashtro gave up that

677
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: weird hit to uh Jesse Winker down the line.

678
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, he gave up a run, but like it wasn't

679
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: like it was more of like a bad luck run

680
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 3: than like this guy got crushed run filthy pitch too. Yeah,

681
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: neither of them were sharp though, So.

682
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 2: Andrew Flow gave up the home run to Joey Vada,

683
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: which Mets fans no chance? Overrated Joey Voda?

684
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: Why Why were Mets fans chanting overrated? How Joey Vado

685
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: was adequately rated? He's possibly underrated. We have guys on

686
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: our team that could get overrated. Chance, Joey Vado is

687
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: having an unbelievable year. He's the hottest player in baseball.

688
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: Overrated is just the wrong terminology to use. And boyd

689
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: to make us pay.

690
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: And then he let everybody know what his name was

691
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: on the back of his jersey when he touched him play.

692
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joey Vado was a showman. He's a handbone. He

693
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: hyped up the crowd deservedly. So, I mean for an

694
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: old man, he could still like act pretty impish, which

695
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: is whatever. I'd give him credit for still having fun.

696
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: And the Reds have put together a little hot stretch

697
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: here where they put themselves back in a thick of it.

698
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: So it's probably a really good mood in that clubhouse.

699
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Something I wish I could feel.

700
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: It would be cool to have a positive feeling here.

701
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: What was interesting was that Anthony Bonda came in this game,

702
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: which off the rip. You're like, that's a close game,

703
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: but all right, whatever, any pitchin in look good in

704
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: the eighth inning, did fine, but then the Mets punted

705
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: the ninth And this is the theme of this series,

706
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: as we will get to game three eventually. Why why

707
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: why pitch Anthony Bonda for a second inning in a

708
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: three run game? Two three run game?

709
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: Whatever it was.

710
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: I'm getting the score right now because I think it

711
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: was either four to one or three to one. I

712
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: believe it was four to one. I'm just gonna clarify.

713
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: But we called this the Casey Stangle episode. You may

714
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: as well have called it to Jim Trestle episode, because

715
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: Luis Rojas was all about the punt, all right. It was, Yes,

716
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: it was three to one. Entertain it's even worse.

717
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: That's like way worse run game against the Reds bullpen,

718
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: which is like bad bad.

719
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: You're talking to Philly heat Hembry. Philly's bad.

720
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: Well, it's not Phillies bad because at least they're smart,

721
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: Like the organization is intelligent, and they're getting more out

722
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: of guys, like they've turned Heath Hembry into a plus reliever.

723
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: I'll give credit for that all the credit in the world, honestly.

724
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 3: But Anthony Bonda going out with the ninth inning and

725
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: just getting absolutely shelled completely ruined any chance the Mets

726
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: had to win. And of course we rally in the

727
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 3: ninth after that.

728
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: And interesting to note as well, Anthony Bonda pitched against

729
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: the Reds in that game in Cincinnati. This is the

730
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: second time they've seen Anthony Bonda in like two weeks.

731
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: And Anthony Bonda doesn't have the greatest stuff in the world.

732
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't let the lineup see him that much. Also,

733
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: fast forward to Game three, Jeff Hartlee b also.

734
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 2: Pitched in Cincinnati.

735
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: The next appearance for him was against the Reds in

736
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: Game three in another punt situation, but anyway, punted it

737
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: tons of runs in the ninth The Mets are out

738
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: of it, and of course the Mets rally in the

739
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: ninth and score a couple runs and the ball game

740
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: would have been completely different if we.

741
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: Run not couples. Yeah, did feel like more, but because

742
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 3: just how few runs the Mets have scored and how

743
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: listless and lifeless the offense seemed. But it just sucked

744
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: that we could have possibly had situation just to get

745
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: the tying run to the plate if you throw loop

746
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: or logo or may. I wish they would try harder

747
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: for a comeback win.

748
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: It was super weird, and I know it wasn't in

749
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: great scenario because Carasco only went four, but you knew

750
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: that coming in. You gotta be smart.

751
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the plan.

752
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: It's bad. It was bad.

753
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: Like I like to commend Rojas for good times, also

754
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: have to take shots in for bad times. This this

755
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: is one that definitely is a shot worth at Rojas

756
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: because I can't in my mind run through any scenario

757
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: where that made sense.

758
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: No none, whatsoever. And we're very fair to Luis Rojas.

759
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: I like to take pride in our fairness to our manager,

760
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: someone the running for manager of the year. But we've

761
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: gone very long in Game one, in the trade deadline.

762
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: You gotta get to the game two here.

763
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Game two. Let's talk about Game two.

764
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: Great game, cool game, Hall of Fame inductions before the game,

765
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: we got what John Matt Lack, Ron Darling, Edgardo Alfonso

766
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: when Al Jackson got in.

767
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: So that was a cool little group.

768
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: I love Edgardo, John Mattlake, Garda, Alfons of Ron Darling.

769
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: Those are all very underrated players and like Mets lower

770
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: and Baseball Lord, those guys all had a collection of

771
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: years where they were like near I want to say,

772
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: like the top of the league. But these guys were

773
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: all like perennial all star types who were not able

774
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: to put it together for the extended stretch that you

775
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: think of for league. Great. These are all good players.

776
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm happy for them to get their their recognition they deserve.

777
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Edgardo had a little some of the old

778
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: two thousand Mets there with him too. Ray Rodoniez got

779
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: a little teary eyed when he was talking Spanish to

780
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: his parents back in Venezuela.

781
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 2: It was nice to see. I love Fonsi.

782
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: So it's good, especially when the organization slided him so

783
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: badly a couple of years ago when he won the

784
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: league as the Brooklyn Cyclones manager, and the Will Pond said, hey, thanks,

785
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: you're out. See you smell you lator, But good to

786
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: see how Edgardo in the Hall of Fame. Game started off,

787
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: of course classic, Jonathan India gets on base, because why

788
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't he.

789
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: That's what he does.

790
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's really really good, really quite quite good.

791
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: This was a hit by pitch, so we're not gonna

792
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: give Jonathan India too much credit for just take getting plunked.

793
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: But the guy lives on base all series. Like you

794
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: could not get him out. He was impressed.

795
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: He owns the Mets. He had something to do with

796
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: that getting hit by pitch. There was some skill involved

797
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: in that, somehow has to be. But besides that, Richell

798
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: actually had a pretty nice start again doing what rich

799
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: Hill does every single time.

800
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and on the other side that Wade Miley was

801
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: the exact same way, just doing Wade Miley things like

802
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: it didn't feel like anyone got the hold of a

803
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: ball until like the fourth inning of this.

804
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: Game, and which you would think against two soft asson

805
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: lefties you would. But both of these teams, I don't

806
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: want to say struggled because no one struggles against either

807
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: of these guys. But no, they didn't play great base.

808
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: No, it was. It was a frustrating game to watch

809
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: him be a part of it was very annoying, especially

810
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: where the Mets actually do get on the board. Brand

811
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: Dreurie gets a hit because that's the only thing that

812
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: guy knows how to do. R drives me with a

813
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: sack fly and instantly the next inning, Jhenio Suarez, the

814
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: man who can't hit anything, the man whose bat is slow.

815
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: This guy talk about Michael Knforla forgetting out of hit.

816
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: This is a ridiculous season in the career of Jhenio Swarez.

817
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: He looked like a prime bounce back candidate after a

818
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: bad COVID season when he had like a blazing hot

819
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: three weeks to end the year, take the Reds into

820
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: the playoffs. He's hitting one seventy right now, and he

821
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: hit a shot off of Rich Hill.

822
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: Bad pitch calling. They went three high and away fastballs

823
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: to au Haineo in a row. You can't do that

824
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: to a guy like au Hayes Swarz.

825
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

826
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't care how bad he is or how slow

827
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: his swing is. Richill throws eighty three.

828
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: You can't throw three high and away fastballs to a

829
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: guy like Aujano Suarez. You just can't do it.

830
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the guy who throws eighty three complete

831
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: tangent right here. But the wild stat I saw today.

832
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: Jay Hat made his Saint Louis Cardinal's debut today because

833
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: the Cardinals pulled j half the trade deadline because they're

834
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: still apparently going for it. Don't know why, don't know how.

835
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: Jay had joining the Cardinals' rotation, became the first member

836
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 3: of said rotation as it currently stands to have an

837
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: average fastball philosophy of over ninety miles an hour. Oh

838
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: my god, Ja Happ is the hardest throwing Cardinals starting

839
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: pitcher in That's embarrassing. Yeah, so we are lamenting the

840
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: Mets and how bad that we have looked. Seemed just

841
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: bad vibes all week. At least Ja Happ is not

842
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: our hardest throwing.

843
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: Starting but that would be really disappointing.

844
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: Take that one to the bank. Let's get back to

845
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: the game.

846
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Aujdeo Suarez, nuke. Kyle Farmer hit a shot too,

847
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: because Kyle Farmer's like the hottest hitter in baseball along

848
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: with Joey Vado and we both had to face them both.

849
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, if anyone out there plays fantasy baseball, Kyle Farmer

850
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: is an exquisite stream. This week, they're playing seven games

851
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: at home and in the Great American small Park against

852
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: the Pirates, and I want to say, the Cardinals some

853
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: other beat team with bad pitching, but pick them up

854
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 3: if you're in a deep league and you just need

855
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: to need some help get back to the game. I'm

856
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: tangent brain right, No, yeah, I don't want to think

857
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: about the mess.

858
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Well, don't want to think about them too, because they

859
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: were lifeless against Wade Miley. For some reason or anything,

860
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: it fits the narrative that we've said all year long.

861
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: Mets cannot hit soft tossing lefties.

862
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: And we can't hit curveballs because a stat that you

863
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: shared with me off air was that Sonny Gray just

864
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: threw his highest percentage of curveballs all year against the

865
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: Mets on Friday night. Wade Miley was throwing exclusively junk

866
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: for the seven innings he pitched. For Wade Miley to

867
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: be on a man for seven innings, like I don't

868
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: know someone, there's someone a team like needs an amputation,

869
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: like there has to be something dramatically wrong with the

870
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: hitters on the other side, except that no, hither he

871
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: fucking threw he raised under three this year. I don't

872
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: get it.

873
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's confusing.

874
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: He's a guy who just continues to pitch well despite

875
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: not really having anything that good, and he owns the

876
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: Mets because of course. But that being said, hovey Bia

877
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: is making his debut. Saved the day a little bit here,

878
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: and it should have been a tie game. But Jonathan

879
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: VR boneheaded gets picked off a second base and only

880
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: makes it two run home runs, so the Mets are

881
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: down four to three. But hovey BIA's huge home run

882
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: needed that badly.

883
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the effect of the Hovey brinks. This

884
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: is gonna be the whole Hobby Bye's experience because he

885
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: will make these crazy, splashy plays that are fantastic, and

886
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: as we'll see in the game, he'll do some real

887
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: bonehead shit. Sometimes as a baseball fan, you're just staring

888
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 3: at the television asking what the fuck is going on.

889
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: He has a flair for the dramatics. He likes to

890
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: be the center of attention. It's not that he's a

891
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: selfish player, but he wants to make something happen every

892
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: single time he's at the plate, and lucky for us

893
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: in the sixth he did with his first summer on

894
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: as New York.

895
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: Met Yes and Richel's at the game at that point,

896
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 3: and my guy yan CDZ and Yarry's familia had very

897
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: strong innings to keep us in the game. Opposite of

898
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: the Friday Night where Drew Smith and Miguel Castro felt

899
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: like they were well, not that they felt like they

900
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: actually each gave up runs to push us further out

901
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: of it, which is a very very important move for

902
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: this Mets team to keep some energy and keep some

903
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: vibes make them feel like they could win. And then

904
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: Seth Lugo came in and for probably the fourth or

905
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: fifth time in the last couple of weeks, he was

906
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: ineffective and it's started him get me a little scared.

907
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: He is looking shaky. He just doesn't have the strikeout stuff.

908
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: It feels like right now, it feels like everyone kind

909
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: of knows what's coming. I don't know if he's tipping pitches,

910
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: but he's not fooling anybody. If feels like right now.

911
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: I love the tipping pitches accusation, Oh.

912
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: You got it.

913
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: You always throw it if they know what's coming. I'm

914
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: not gonna go as far as say they're banging trash cans.

915
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those guys. But pitchers do tip pitches.

916
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: We saw it with you Darvish. You Darvish literally, I

917
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: granted they were cheating as well, but you Darvish literally

918
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: looked human. And he's because he was tipping pitches like

919
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, here's my fastball, here's my curveball.

920
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: Was obvious.

921
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: The irony about Lugo's stuff is that his spin rates

922
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: are like, not only as good as they've ever been,

923
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: but better in a way. He's the most spin on

924
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: any curveball in baseball, and his fastball ourpms are up

925
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: over ten percent this year compared to last. There's just

926
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: something else, and maybe he is tipping them. Maybe it's

927
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: a command issue. I don't really know what's going on

928
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: right now, Seth Lugo. But actually I just looked at

929
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: his baseballs on page and for some reason, he's exclusively

930
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: throwing fastballs in the lower part of his own. That's

931
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: not that.

932
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like he got spots to throw fastballs.

933
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: No middle middle low. Yeah, seems very bad.

934
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: Well, luckily for us, Aaron Loop Loop there it is,

935
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: bailed him out again because Aaron Loop is that friggin guy.

936
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: He's so good.

937
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: He's like touched by the grace of God right now

938
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: because he got out of this inning to no merit

939
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: of his own. He picked off job. Yeah you know,

940
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I was gonna give him to credit. A

941
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: great move from the sidewinding lefty and then Kyle Farmer

942
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: is just standing in no man's land and allowed pie

943
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: Alonzo to make I believe the first heads up defensive

944
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: play of his entire career, like running straight at him

945
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: across the time minch like like a little kid. It

946
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 3: was funny. People was so excited move around a little.

947
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: Bit and that was huge, and it kind of gave us,

948
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, the vibes of like, Okay, there's a little life.

949
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: Not that we were dead, but hey, here's a little life.

950
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: Here we go, things are going our way. The Mets

951
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: can bring it back. May did pretty good, start off

952
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: a little shaky, but the guy loves drama. Walk the

953
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: lee left man to get two strikeouts while sweat is

954
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: dripping from the brim of his hand. I'm sure if

955
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: you were hanging around Jerry's familia as much as Trevor

956
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: May has this year, you'd probably, you know, pick up

957
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: a walk or two from him, which led us to

958
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: the ninth inning. We had some craziness in the ninth inning,

959
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: of course, lots of it. Our boy McNeil getting it started.

960
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Nice walk. Gotta love McNeil. He's playing such good baseball,

961
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: he's so freaking back.

962
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: Such a good baseball. And nith Henbry was throwing similar

963
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: to way Miley's just junk left and right. He was

964
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: putting sliders off the plate over and over and over

965
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: and over. It took a few for Jeff to fall

966
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: off before he got the hard earned walk, and that

967
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: was really big leeloff walk. They always knows something goods

968
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: gonna happen.

969
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: It's worth noting that Giorme came in to pinch run

970
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: for McNeil. We saw this in Game one as we

971
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: were at the game. McNeil is just not going to

972
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: be able to bust it. He's not gonna be able

973
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: to do it. He's not going to whatever it is

974
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: that the Mets staff has told him. McNeil will not

975
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: run a ball out hard the rest of the season

976
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: because seemingly it looks like he might pop the hamstring

977
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: again if he does.

978
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as little teaser here, Luis Giromy did come

979
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: around to score and he popped his hamstring. And now

980
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: in the il, so thank god that we acquired Hobby Bias,

981
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: because we wouldn't even have anyone to play enough defense

982
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: to be a shortstop right now.

983
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: And speaking of Hobby Bias, let's talk about his at bath.

984
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: In the ninth Yeah, right, coming up right next to

985
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: Luis Gyora, Meg got the second on a pass ball

986
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: prowal play by Thomas Stevenson. A guy who you don't

987
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 3: like it all behind the plate.

988
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: Oh, I like just because the personal reasons to dislike him,

989
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: un followed me on Twitter. Fuck that guy, that's fair.

990
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: Where's Where's Spike? Podcast? Like, I accept Spike, It's okay,

991
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 3: it's fine. But Hobby Bias, I tweeted this other early

992
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 3: in this episode, is going to be the full Hovey

993
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: Baia's experience. He gets a really easy ride to three

994
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: and oh. We should have done some research for the podcast.

995
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: I would love to know how many three and oh

996
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: counts Hobby Bias has ever experienced in his life, and

997
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: Heath hembury like he does all game like this new norm.

998
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball just throws him a junk slider low

999
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: and away, three.

1000
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: Not close, and Hobby just flails. Hobby tried to hit.

1001
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: He tried to hit the game winning home run. He

1002
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: was like, I can't win the game if I walk.

1003
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I can only win the game if I gotta hit

1004
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: a walk. First base is empty, yourman is already on second.

1005
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm not helping anyone if I watch.

1006
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: The joke before this year was that VR was allergic

1007
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: to walking.

1008
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: Hovey bias might actually get anphylactic shock if he walks.

1009
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: Gotta get a fucking EpiPen for these guys. I swear

1010
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: the god.

1011
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: He had such an awful at bat. He had such

1012
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: a good APPA and so quickly went bad. And like

1013
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: you said, that is the hobvier by his experience. Mets fans,

1014
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: buckle up. It's not changing anytime soon. This is what

1015
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: he does.

1016
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 3: Howie has started to call working in a bat from

1017
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 3: two to three two the nemo. Working in at bad

1018
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: from three to zero to three two is.

1019
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: The bias, especially when you're swinging. If he's like taking strikes,

1020
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: it's different. You could take things on the corner waiting

1021
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: for your pitch. When Hobby Bias swings at three balls,

1022
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: three more balls, he got thrown six balls in the

1023
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: bat and struck out.

1024
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: The three to one pitch was hit the ball. It

1025
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: was a fastball that like kind of missed the black

1026
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: and got a little bit more plate than Henry thought,

1027
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: and Hobby put a nice hack on it. Of course,

1028
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: his shoulder like flew out and he tried to pull

1029
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: a home run. If he just went with it with

1030
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: it's a nice double in the gap. But this is

1031
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: the Hobby Bias experience. This is what they got, and

1032
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: this we're gonna have to deal with now for the

1033
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: rest of the season.

1034
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: I like in the notes you put he's legit anti

1035
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: giy Orme.

1036
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: He is. He's everything the opposite of Luis ki Ormey.

1037
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: If like, he's like the Antichrist to you're.

1038
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: Killing it with the notes here, McCann folded like a

1039
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: cheap share Like I.

1040
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: Wrote these right when I got back from the game

1041
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: today and I was pissed.

1042
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was really There's a lot to talk

1043
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: about in that one. But yeah, McCann, the horrible at

1044
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: bat awful, just did not even competitive at all, not.

1045
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: Even close to being competitive. If he literally folded like

1046
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: a cheap shair. There's sometimes when James McCann comes to

1047
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: the plate, he's like his elbows out up and he's

1048
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: like really focused in. And there's sometimes when trains mc

1049
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: can't come to the plate and says if he was

1050
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: a junior varsity ball player, there's no semblance of any

1051
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: kind of approach or understanding or seems like maybe even confidence.

1052
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: Sometimes he was nowhere close to Heath Henbry, which is

1053
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 3: a sentence I just said. But luckily for us, Dom

1054
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: clutched the fuck up great at Batti, big hit, adjusted

1055
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: to the garbage that Heath Henbry was throwing, smacked up

1056
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: the middle, ties the game up. He's like three or

1057
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: four foul balls. Even the pitch he hit was low

1058
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: and away. He just barely got barrel on it, just

1059
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: just enough to.

1060
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: Get it over second base, which leads us now to

1061
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: the tenth inning. Edwin DIA's time. Edwin Diaz had those trumpets.

1062
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: Everyone was feeling good, everyone's feeling great, except Edwin, which

1063
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: is kind of the norm now to start the game.

1064
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't really like coming out of the gates hot anymore.

1065
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: No, no, no wild pitch.

1066
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: But the third pitch of the na which, to be fair,

1067
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: that's a pass ball. Nito did it job with that pitch.

1068
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: I was really confused watching this game, because as this

1069
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 3: game was happening, I was like moving from bar to bar,

1070
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: and I was getting a little bit drunker and a

1071
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: little bit drunker. Was neither window game the whole time

1072
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 3: Because mcannon just hit and Anito suddenly catching.

1073
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: I believe it was a pinch it. No, it couldn't been,

1074
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: because Needle caught it night before.

1075
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, neither was catching on Friday night.

1076
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: I actually don't know.

1077
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: I was like mystified. I was so confused, So why's

1078
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: Neo back there? No, Jason mccannon started. They brought Nito

1079
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: in in the tenth inning as defensive replaces a catch

1080
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: Edwin d just to catch Edwin Dias on the perto

1081
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: Rican connection, because as we've talked about all year me

1082
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: jokingly you very seriously broad Baseball Classic, Edwin suddenly dropped

1083
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: down from the rafters and arrived just ripping an air

1084
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: guitar on the mound, just dominating people left and right.

1085
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: He was so sick with his backup against the wall.

1086
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: He was nuts.

1087
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: He was like, wait, wait, give us some pressure, give

1088
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: us some pressure, first and third, nobody out.

1089
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: Now I'm ready. He's like, it's not a safe situation.

1090
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: It's a tie game.

1091
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: He's like, let me load the bases, or let me

1092
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: get let me get the guys on first and second

1093
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: whatever it was, or first and third.

1094
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: Actually my bad, ye.

1095
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 3: Because yeah, the past ball and then immediate wals. I'm

1096
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: not just saving. I'm not just getting out of an

1097
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: ending here. I want to make a.

1098
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: Fun theatric theatrics WBC and then the bottom of the tenth,

1099
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Jury does what he does best, and that's mere.

1100
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: Moments before brand Drewy got the base hit, I was

1101
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: texting you in all caps and texting my dad and

1102
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: tweeting why isn't brand Jury bunting? The men's needed one

1103
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: run and we had a guy in second nobody out

1104
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: because of the actually ending rule, and brand Drew just

1105
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: swung away to get to two strikes. I was like,

1106
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on?

1107
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: Whatever you're saying near the Jakes, man, it's unbelievable.

1108
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: I love this power I have, but I have to

1109
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 3: make sure I use it for good rather.

1110
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: Than it's pure. You can't force it. Your jinx is

1111
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: so pure. Yeah, they're really natural Jaxes, but fun game

1112
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: that felt really good after really disappointing Game one. That

1113
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: Game two one was like, Okay, there they are, They're

1114
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: the boys.

1115
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: Could you imagine where we'd be if that didn't happen? Oh?

1116
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: I would. I don't know.

1117
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: If I'm recording an episode tonight, I might just fall

1118
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: asleep not answer texts. I might be like James the

1119
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: Black Jerseys man, it's the end death despite being in

1120
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: first place, but literally that.

1121
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: Was happening today in the game people. I guess this

1122
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: is gonna be a nice transition to game three, because

1123
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: this felt like it may have been the worst game

1124
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 3: of the year. Cityfield had this weird blend of being

1125
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: really hot but also kind of cold. The weather was weird,

1126
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: the sun was weird. The vlatymer through the eras I

1127
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: just hate him within anything in the world now, and

1128
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: people would be kind of getting ordinary in the stand Restless, Yes, restless, upsetting,

1129
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 3: Max fucking shrock ococks game cocks five hits? Are you

1130
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: kidding me?

1131
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1132
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: Is he is? He gonna get five hits the rest

1133
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: of his middle league career.

1134
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: Of course, he's a game of gock. He's talented.

1135
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: Today sucked Today was terrible. Me and James both at

1136
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: the game. Uh, that bucket hat man, gotta.

1137
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: Burn that thing, I know.

1138
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, just for the listeners at home, if anyone's taking

1139
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: the seven line or the l r R to the

1140
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: Mets games. This year, you've seen the guys selling the

1141
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: bucket hats on the platform, the stairs, walking down from

1142
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: the train station to the entrance the city field. And

1143
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: I've been eyeing those bucket hats all year. I love

1144
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: bucket hat especially keep the sun out, kind of fashionable.

1145
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: They let let people know you're there to have a

1146
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: good time. You know, no one is ever upset in

1147
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: a bucket hat besides me today and on Friday night.

1148
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: So I bought the bucket hat. Haggled, of course, because

1149
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: he got to haggle with those guys. You have five

1150
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: dollars off, really just a few whole day feels better.

1151
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: And that bucket has now zero to two and the

1152
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: Mets have scored a total of three runs when I've

1153
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: been wearing it. I'm giving it one more shot.

1154
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: It's bold, that's bold. I don't know about that one.

1155
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: I'll allow it. I'll allow it.

1156
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's not why the Mets loss. The Mets

1157
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: loss because they couldn't hit Vladimir Gutierre's. He was no

1158
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: hitting us through five innings.

1159
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 3: Yes, they were swinging out of their shoes against the

1160
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: guy who they had annihilated less than ten days ago.

1161
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: Now, granted, the Mets hit a lot of great American

1162
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: ballpark home runs today. They loved literally in the first

1163
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: n Yeah, loved a good warning track shot against Vladimir

1164
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: Gutierre's and there were some hard hit balls. But the

1165
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, honestly, going an inning hitless

1166
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: against Vladimir Gutierres is disrespectful to everyone who's ever played

1167
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: the game of baseball. Like, guy's so not good yet

1168
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: the Mets couldn't figure him out after owning him in

1169
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: his first start.

1170
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: He didn't change anything. He wasn't any different, No.

1171
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 3: And you could definitely feel Rojas's frustration after the game.

1172
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: He was like, I don't know where our approach was.

1173
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: We got to this guy very recently. It just felt

1174
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 3: like no one was really up there with a plan.

1175
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, that's kind of scary.

1176
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: He's so right. He couldn't have hit the nail on

1177
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: the head more. There was no plan in this game.

1178
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: Again, outside of the guys who were playing well, which

1179
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: is McNeil, Alonso, Dom Smith, even everybody. Everybody else felt

1180
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: like they had no clue what was happening today.

1181
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: I think that the Mets are undergoing some kind of

1182
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: phenomenon with Kevin Pilar. If we could have like a

1183
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: bar graph showing who appreciates Kevin Pillar, and we like

1184
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 3: rank it by age demographics, it's like zero to nineteen

1185
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: nineteen through twenty five, twenty five through thirty three and

1186
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: thirty five, and all the old guys love Kevin Pillar

1187
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: so much. Is when Kevin Polar got that seeing eye

1188
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: single at the end of the no hit bit, my

1189
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: dad's like, need more guys like that in the lineup.

1190
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: I was like, if you watch the guy hit for

1191
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: the past two months, he's been struggling. He can hit

1192
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 3: the broad side of a barn.

1193
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: He is h He's a clutch player. He gets the

1194
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: big hit you know when you need it.

1195
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: He gets some nice at bats every once in a while,

1196
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: but by no means do the Mets need more of him?

1197
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: Because that would be more guys who have an OPS

1198
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: of like six twenty.

1199
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do respect the show. Like Kevin Pilar. He

1200
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: put his body on the line today for that that

1201
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: double in the gap. I think that might have been

1202
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: one of the shrock shots i'll call them. Looked like

1203
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 3: the face was going into the ground. I was really

1204
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: shit in my past for a second. I was there

1205
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: at the game of my family and my mom's like,

1206
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 3: is he okay to do that? Like, I honestly don't

1207
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: even know.

1208
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: That's such a mom comment of like, oh my god,

1209
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: I hope he's okay.

1210
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I hope he gets the ball.

1211
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: Oh this offense, man, it is just like it is

1212
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: causing me to drink tonight. I'm having a little adult

1213
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: beverage because I'm like, I want to forget this game.

1214
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: It was so bad.

1215
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: It was so miserable, and Stroman didn't even pitch bad,

1216
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: like he he was more than capable today.

1217
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a good enough performance to win on

1218
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: a different day. He just got max shocked. Like, I

1219
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: don't know what else to say about this. He ran

1220
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: with the sinker slider splither combination that he's been very

1221
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: successful with this season. Still mostly sinkers, but it was

1222
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 3: like in the forty percent range rather than the fifteen

1223
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: and sixties. He's worked with some of the starts where

1224
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: he struggled more so. The slider especially was just completely filthy.

1225
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 3: He had six widths on thirteen swings with it, five

1226
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: call strikes. The csw rate was over forty percent. Like

1227
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: he was good. It was sucked to couldink of that

1228
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 3: that sixth inning, especially because Miguel Castro came in and

1229
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: promptly walked the eight and nine hitters to bring in

1230
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: a run. But the offense just needs to pick him up.

1231
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 3: Coming back to City Field has taken all of the

1232
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: juice out of this offense. Everything that we had gains

1233
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: between that last game in Pittsburgh heading the Cincinnati and

1234
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 3: what even was that other serious? But that weld played

1235
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: on Pittsburgh. No, Pittsburgh Cincinnati and then we came home. Yeah. No,

1236
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: there was a weekday series. Wasn't there before with the

1237
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 3: five game Braves?

1238
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: No?

1239
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: Who the mess played last weekend the Reds. No, that

1240
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: was a weekday series. They played the Pirates the first

1241
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 3: weekend after the all spreak. This is great.

1242
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: That held the Mets play.

1243
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: They played the Pirates the first three after the break.

1244
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: Then they went immediately to Cincinnati, and then they had

1245
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: an off day, and then they played someone last weekend.

1246
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 3: I know they did. Who was it?

1247
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: The Blue Jays at home?

1248
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: The Blue Jays at home, That's what it was. The

1249
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: offense went cold there, yeah, against like subpar pitching. So

1250
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: it seems like the mess just can't hit into the field,

1251
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: which is a conversation we should be having in two

1252
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: thousand and eleven.

1253
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: No, like the offense is just stinking and Canfordo again

1254
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: had another terrible day.

1255
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: I don't know why. Why's JD. Davis not playing?

1256
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: I know Drewry's the hot bat right now, but where's JD.

1257
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: Davis? They never play JD with Stroman on the matters

1258
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: because there's gonna be grounded.

1259
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: He didn't play it all this series, though he didn't start

1260
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: a single game.

1261
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: That is true. I don't know. Maybe you should have

1262
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: played the rich Hill game. I don't know. They're never

1263
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: gonna play them Stroman. They're like the guy has just

1264
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: a lead brick attached to his left hand. He can't

1265
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: field anything.

1266
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, we need a bat right now. At

1267
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: some point we gotta give up a little defense, I

1268
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: think to score some runs.

1269
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: We just got the bat. We have half hear behind

1270
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: his man. I don't fucking know what to say. Losing

1271
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: our minds right now.

1272
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: I am like just so down after this performance this weekend.

1273
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Cashtro walking Vladimir Gutierres with the bases loaded is on

1274
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: four pitch despicable. There was Jeremy Hefner took a mid

1275
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: at bat mound visit too well. He was like, yes,

1276
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: give me a second, and it didn't even look like

1277
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: he talked to Rojas like I'm going out there, I'm

1278
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna rip a head off and it was quick, it

1279
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: was prompt.

1280
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 2: It did not work.

1281
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it didn't work even a little bit.

1282
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: That was such a demoralizing moment. The game was completely

1283
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 3: over at that point. And even though it wasn't actually

1284
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: over because the Mets were only down for to one,

1285
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: I believe it was heading into the ninth inning. We

1286
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: call on Jeff Hardlieb to take us to the bottom

1287
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: of the ninth I have not felt the air leave

1288
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: the stadium quicker than that little punt action. There there

1289
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: you go, viewers, Yeah, you can watch Mark stand up

1290
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: and have poor punting for him. Jim Tress will be

1291
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: ashamed in use well good.

1292
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad because I'm sick and tired of fucking punting.

1293
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: Can this team enough?

1294
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: I get it?

1295
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: No, I don't get it. Actually I lied. I don't

1296
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: get it. I don't understand why we did it. The

1297
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: rest of all pins thinks, why are we punting against

1298
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: him in a three run game?

1299
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: I don't know why Jeff Hardleeb is on this roster

1300
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 3: and we just acquired Trevor Williams. Like, maybe we want

1301
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 3: to keep Trevor Williams stretched out because we need him

1302
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: to start, But what are you saying there?

1303
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: Pirates didn't want Jeff hart Leeb.

1304
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: The Pirates said, I don't want you get off my team,

1305
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: and the Mets were like, oh you, yes, pitch.

1306
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Lup only threw four pitches on Saturday and didn't

1307
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: pitch on Friday. He under could have thrown one of

1308
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: the ninth innings either today, Sunday or Friday night to

1309
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: keep us in these games. It was really again, we

1310
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: give Rojas credit when he does things well. I was very,

1311
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: very perturbed by the way he used this bullpen both lost.

1312
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: I was at a game with the Reds fan today

1313
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: shout out to Will. He was like, who is this guy?

1314
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: Why are they throwing him? Why are they pitching this guy?

1315
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: And when they will and when he gave up the

1316
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: runs because he stinks, he was like, I can't believe

1317
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,959
Speaker 1: they punted in a three run game against our bullpen.

1318
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 3: Right after we took advantage of their bullpen the day

1319
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: before to win a game, Like, was anybody watching? Is

1320
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: anybody paying attention to now?

1321
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: And we scored in the ninth in Game one two

1322
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 2: And the cherry on top.

1323
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 3: Of everything was fucking Justin Wilson, fresh off his DFA

1324
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 3: from the New York Yankees, coming in to close it

1325
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: out against us. A woman behind me in my section

1326
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: was like, is that the same Justin Wilson? I was like,

1327
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: you fucking bet it is.

1328
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: And boys, he having a rough year, but he got

1329
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: three outs today.

1330
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, got three outs, got three outs. We needed that.

1331
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: I was a nail on the coffin the Mets offseason.

1332
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: Didn't resign Justin Wilson. Little did we know that.

1333
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: He'd come back to haunt us. Cincinnati Reds uniform shit series,

1334
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: shit fucking series. Part of my French But it is

1335
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: just it is down in the dumps time for me.

1336
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: Now, this is the most negative episode we've had. I

1337
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: think by far, maybe those Red Sox episodes in April,

1338
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 3: but I can't even count those. I feel like I've

1339
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: grown twenty five years since then. We're doing at least

1340
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: thirty the episodes since the fucking Red Sox came to

1341
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: Cityfield in April. We couldn't hit.

1342
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: The thing that was disappointing about this series is the

1343
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: Mets got beat, yes, but they played bad, bad, bad baseball.

1344
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: There was nothing redeeming about this series, almost except Carlos

1345
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: Carrasco's debut and McNeil being hot.

1346
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 3: I think you're being a little too dreary about that.

1347
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: I think that the Mets didn't hit super well this series,

1348
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: but there were a couple of good baseball things to play.

1349
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: Hovey Bias made an incredible thrown relay tonight to Nail.

1350
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't know was that Farmerswaz, who's one of the

1351
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: slowest human beings on the planet.

1352
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: He has such a candon it's crazy to watch it.

1353
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: Lot.

1354
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: It was ninety one miles an hour. That throw.

1355
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: That's sick. It's a howitzer, and we pitched well, all

1356
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: of our real relievers pitched pretty fine, including Anthony band

1357
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: of the first inning and also Anthony Goodbye the Anthony

1358
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: BANDA thank you for the work you've done. DFA. Hope

1359
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: you see him again sometime. I think we will. That's

1360
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: something I pick him up. I don't know, but it's

1361
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 3: just the bats man Like the defense wasn't bad, the

1362
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: baseball wasn't bad. Fundies, we were clutched. It was just

1363
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: the fucking bats couldn't come through, especially in a weekend

1364
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: where the vibes were so high fans were in the building.

1365
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: Black jerseys. We've been talking about this shit for fucking months.

1366
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: I feel like such an idiot for being excited about jerseys.

1367
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 2: Those jerseys look so friggin good too. Yeah, Michael Colfordo

1368
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: looked great in it, and boy did he do him

1369
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: a disservice.

1370
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: I have tickets to the next black jersey game on

1371
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: August thirteenth against the Los Angeles Dodgers. That should be fun.

1372
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: Geez, little fun, little tidbit of info here about the

1373
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: black jerseys. People wondering why the Mets waited so long

1374
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: to unveil them during the season. Major League Baseball is

1375
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: a really dumb rule where if you want to put

1376
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: a jersey in your rotation, you know, talking about home, road, away, alternate's,

1377
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. It has to be sent

1378
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: to the league two years in advance for approval, so

1379
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 1: we will not see these jerseys in rotation probably until

1380
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three, whatever it is, which

1381
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: is nonsense. First off, Major League Baseball, who loves to

1382
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: cry poor basically just said we don't want to make

1383
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: more revenue because we don't want to have these jerseys

1384
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: be in rotation. There should be a guy who like

1385
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: part of his job, because it really shouldn't take up

1386
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: more than five minutes. Is like, you approve baseball jerseys,

1387
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: Oh the Mets. This isn't a frat kid making a jersey. Yeah,

1388
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: this is a pro look approved. I can't believe there's

1389
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: a two year process.

1390
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 3: What is that? And just building off that, the fact

1391
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 3: that the Mets waigh this long debut them because they

1392
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: have five home games the rest of the season, including

1393
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: last Friday, four left, so they wanted to wear them

1394
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 3: for all of the Friday home games. Moving froward, yes,

1395
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: because you can only they're classify as limited ust jerseys

1396
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: right now, and you can only wear those five times

1397
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: in this season. So add that to the list of

1398
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 3: dumb fucking rules major League Baseball has.

1399
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: But uh, no, fun League.

1400
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: We have to do a hard transition right now because

1401
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 3: hard times to not end with this game on Sunday,

1402
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: because about one full hour after it the n did

1403
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 3: was the deadline to sign first round picks from twenty

1404
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: twenty one Major League Baseball Draft, and the Mets were

1405
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: the only team not to strike a deal with their

1406
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 3: first round selection, Kamar.

1407
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: Rock Kamar Rocker is no longer in New York met.

1408
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: No, I want to get your gut feelings on that.

1409
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: I'm okay.

1410
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: I kind of am too.

1411
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: And I don't like that. I'm okay. I want to

1412
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: be upset. I want to be mad, but I this

1413
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 2: is so weird.

1414
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm a little bit of a Cohen, you know,

1415
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: puppet here.

1416
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: Chill.

1417
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I'm chilling a little bit. So this will

1418
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: be the first time I'll allow I'm gonna call me

1419
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: a shill here. But this is the right move as

1420
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: a baseball organization. The fact that Kamar Rocker was so

1421
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: hesitant to get an MRI during the draft. It's voluntary.

1422
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to but he was the only guy

1423
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: of like the top fifty or one hundred prospects that refused.

1424
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: It tells you something's up.

1425
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: This entire process was very suspect, and you can't again,

1426
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to be considered someone who takes like

1427
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 3: the corner of a billionaire and defend someone for not

1428
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 3: spending money. But I don't think money had anything at

1429
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 3: all to do with this Kamara Rocker situation. There were

1430
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 3: initial reports, and we did say it in the last episode,

1431
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 3: that the Mets and Rocker and Boris were haggling. I

1432
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: can't discount the influence of Scott bors here, but the

1433
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: initial reports they were haggling over a couple of million

1434
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: dollars they want to lessen the bonus. But little inklings

1435
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: of reports have come out later today that the Mets

1436
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: were just completely done with Kamar rock at the second

1437
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: they saw the medicals. It wasn't about six million, three million,

1438
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: four million, two million, one million. It was a yes

1439
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 3: or no question and they just said no. And if

1440
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 3: that is the case, if Kamar Rockers ucl is just

1441
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: brisket right now and it's about to off the bone,

1442
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 3: how can you really validate taking this guy rather than

1443
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 3: just getting an extra pick next year, especially when you

1444
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: understand this has happened twice in the last seven years,

1445
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: with Brady Aikin number one overall pick from the Astros

1446
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen and Carter Stewart from the Braves. But

1447
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: that was an injury concern that was.

1448
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: Like money, that was like strickly money.

1449
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but they wasn't that going to playing Korea

1450
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 3: or something. There was some weird well with Carter Stewart.

1451
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: The thing was with the Braves is that the Braves

1452
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: wanted to pay him less than slot value. He wanted

1453
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: to make his money. They said, We're not gonna pay you.

1454
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: And he said, okay, I'll go play in Japan and

1455
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: I'll go make the money that I deserve in Japan.

1456
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: And it's worked out pretty well for him. But also,

1457
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: do you really want to be a twenty one, nineteen

1458
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: eighteen year old kid playing in Japan when you could

1459
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: be in the miners working to become a major league pitcher.

1460
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: It's interesting to see. We've never seen anything like that

1461
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: with Carter Stewart. Brady Aikin's the most comparable. Brady Aikin

1462
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: was not drafted or not signed in twenty fourteen signing

1463
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: bonus thing, but same thing UCL issue. And what do

1464
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, the next year that he came out and

1465
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: pitched blew his UCL Tommy John surgery. He was undrafted

1466
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: I think a couple of years later by the Indians

1467
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: in the first round, and Brady Aikin has done nothing since.

1468
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was and Brady Aikin very clearly was never

1469
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: the same Again. We kind of take for granted how

1470
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: easy it is for most pictures to rehabilitate after Tommy

1471
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: John surgery. But that's a grueling, gruel and grueling process.

1472
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 3: Just the idea of the surgery itself is shocking to

1473
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: those who don't know what happens. I explained to my

1474
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 3: sister today for the first time. She didn't know, and

1475
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: her jaw dropped. You are taking a ligament from someone's

1476
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: knee and putting it into your elbow. What the fuck

1477
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 3: is that? That's like this futuristic.

1478
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: Shit, some alien shit right there. Yeah, and let me

1479
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: jump in here too.

1480
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: I think it's also important knowing we don't know exactly

1481
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: what is wrong. It could be UCL, it could be shoulder,

1482
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: it could be something in his form, it could be

1483
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: this or that. But whatever it was, it was enough

1484
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: to scare the Mets away, so it usually leads either

1485
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: UCL or TOS.

1486
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: The Rask outlet.

1487
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 3: Definitely, and Scott Boris has double down saying that Kamara

1488
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 3: Rocker doesn't have any injury a lot.

1489
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Which I feel like is bullshit after the news that

1490
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: Kamara Rocker is foregoing his senior year at Vandy. He

1491
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: is not going to pitch. He is going to spend

1492
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: the entire year working out and getting stronger. That sound

1493
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: like to me, rehabbing.

1494
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 3: It's just bullshit that this story has gone where it's

1495
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: gone in the media and a Mets Twitter and I

1496
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 3: feel like all of it is the work of Scott

1497
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: Boris and his media puppets. Ken Rosenthal, a known Boris shill,

1498
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: has written multiple articles over the last week saying how

1499
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: badly the Mets had to get this done. All the

1500
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: sjaws on Twitter are talking about Steve Cohen's our collection

1501
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: that he couldn't pay a college kit a few million dollars,

1502
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: which is taking money. This isn't what it's about. We're

1503
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: building a baseball team here, We're putting an organization together,

1504
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: not a charity. No. It's also like if this was

1505
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: a money issue. I'm sure they could have found common ground,

1506
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: but it very clearly seems like it wasn't snake Andy

1507
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: Martino has said it wasn't money issue. I don't know

1508
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: what's up his sleeve. I don't know who he's working for.

1509
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can trust him, but it's

1510
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: something that's been said. More information is going to come

1511
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: out about this. We just don't know all the facts yet.

1512
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if we ever will.

1513
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: I think we might based on the fact that Steve

1514
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: Cohen ran his mouth this evening true, I think that

1515
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: we will no more things. If anyone hasn't seen this,

1516
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: Steve Cohen tweeted that basically all draft picks are just

1517
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: pieces like investments, pieces of meat that MB owners are

1518
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: using for a great ROI, and that since draft picks

1519
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: are such a good ROI, generally if this was actually

1520
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: a good investment, that he would have gone through with it,

1521
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: which I think he did in a way that he

1522
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: wanted to make it seem like the Mets made a

1523
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 3: proven decision. But people on Twitter, and rightfully so, have

1524
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 3: taken it as this guy doesn't really seem to care

1525
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: about the human element of the game and I don't

1526
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: think that's a surprising consequence.

1527
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: Hot take.

1528
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: You shouldn't care about the human element of the game.

1529
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: It's about winning and losing.

1530
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: And Billy Beans played by Brad Pitt, said this very

1531
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 3: eloquently in Moneyball, that you can't know these guys. You

1532
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: can't build relationships. You have to trade them, cut them,

1533
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 3: send them up, send them down, like you can't have

1534
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: anything around. These guys are just functions of a team,

1535
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 3: a team that we hope is going to win a

1536
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: World Series in the near future. So you can't get

1537
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: caught up in the emotional shit life changing money I

1538
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: get that, But if Scott Boris is trying to pull

1539
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: the wall over on the Mets, they have been really

1540
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: sketchy post draft. All these billboards popped up all over Manhattan.

1541
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: There's no saying that wasn't Scott bors putting those up

1542
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: to try and continue get this momentum because he was

1543
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: fully aware that he was going to have to try

1544
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 3: strong arm and pre the Mets into giving a contract

1545
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: to a guy who's again Elbow's fucking brisket right now.

1546
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 1: Most likely, I understand the average Mets fans concern because

1547
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: I think the average Met fan. And I'm not talking

1548
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: about even the people listening to this, because I think

1549
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: the people listening to this are more than average Mets fans.

1550
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: I think you're a pretty well educated Mets fan.

1551
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: But I thank you everyone listening. We love the listen.

1552
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 2: But I understand.

1553
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: You know, my uncle who maybe just watches the games

1554
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: once or twice a week, and hearing that the Mets

1555
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: aren't gonna sign Kamara Rocker six million dollars are not

1556
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: gonna give it to him, I can understand that person

1557
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: being a little bit upset, being a little nearsighted. But

1558
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: the more you dive deep, deeper and deeper into this

1559
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: story and the Kamar Rocker stuff and the MRIs and

1560
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: all this medical stuff, I think, like you said at

1561
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of this, it was not about the money.

1562
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: It was about the medicals. And medicals can be scary.

1563
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: You can't give a guy just it's like setting a precedent.

1564
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: You want to run a good organization. You've even said

1565
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 1: this to me before. Seeve Con didn't make fourteen billion

1566
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: dollars by giving away six to anybody. No, it's not

1567
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: about the human element. It's not about the six million,

1568
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: and the Mets were too cheap. It's not about that

1569
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: the Mets were going between two million dollars. Basically, we

1570
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: want to give you four here six. The Mets decided

1571
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: that from an organizational standpoint, it would be smarter to

1572
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: avoid Kamar Rocker and not sign him. Get the draft

1573
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: pick next year along with whatever first round pick. I

1574
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have as well. I think they'll have

1575
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: two now because of that.

1576
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: Yes, they will have to plus any cup compensatory picks

1577
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 3: they will get from players will qualifying offer signing elsewhere. Realistically,

1578
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: this came down to a decision on whether they thought

1579
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: Kamar Rockers ceiling with this impending medical procedure was higher

1580
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: or the potential eleventh pick in next year's draft cost included.

1581
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: Because it is going to screw up the Mets slot

1582
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: possibilities next year having two first round picks. I don't

1583
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: actually know if they're gonna get more slot money because

1584
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 3: they were warded the extra pick. I don't know how

1585
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: often this happens the draft gout and maybe could look up.

1586
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: I believe don't quote me on this, but I believe

1587
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: I heard that you do not get more slot money.

1588
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's entirely possible, because that would push

1589
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: more owners and organizations to sign the draft picks that

1590
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: they make, because that's what's supposed to happen. The baseball

1591
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 3: draft system is broken, but you are supposed to sign

1592
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: the picks that you make. But if something was concealed

1593
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: and hidden, like I, I don't know, it's just I

1594
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: can't really fault the Mets for this process.

1595
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: To me, it's super sketchy.

1596
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: When a guy on a voluntary thing MRI that everybody

1597
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: takes before the draft, it's basically, you know, right, a

1598
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: passage for the draft says I'm good, and then when

1599
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: we hear that there could that there's medical stuff going on,

1600
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: that's sketchy.

1601
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: There's something that I don't like, there's something's fishy.

1602
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when they're agent is Scott Bordes, and he

1603
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: doubles down the fact that there are no medical concerns.

1604
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: We will not be playing college baseball this season. Actual, Yeah,

1605
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: we're not gonna pitch, but there's no problem. This whole

1606
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: thing just stinks to high heaven.

1607
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: You feel like if you wanted to prove that there's

1608
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 2: nothing wrong, he'd pitch.

1609
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 3: Yes, And I just I'm not gonna be able to

1610
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 3: deal with the people on Mets Tweter acting like the

1611
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: world is ending because of this especially, I think this

1612
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: whole situation has even just snowballs because one, we're the Mets,

1613
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: and as everyone ESPN especially knows, we generate clicks. The

1614
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 3: Mets bring the fucking.

1615
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: Put out like five tweets today, he's a loser.

1616
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: Fuck that guy the Mets. I do like passing General,

1617
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: but the way he covers the Mets is so fucking

1618
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 3: so enraging it makes me so angry ESPN General. But again,

1619
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: the Mets bring the fire. Everyone knows the Mets get clicks.

1620
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: People who like them because we have such a rabid

1621
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 3: and large fan base, and people who hate them because

1622
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 3: loal Mets is a thing. The Mets had a bad weekend.

1623
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 3: They kind of got dunked down with the black jerseys

1624
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: and made the whole thing look like a fucking gimmick.

1625
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,479
Speaker 3: We look really dumb, egg on her face. On top

1626
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: of that, Kamar Rocker was arguably the most famous player

1627
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: in this draft, and he was represented by the greatest

1628
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: agent ever known to mankind. This was a perfect storm

1629
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 3: of chaos that has turned into this ridiculous media frenzy.

1630
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: Right now, if this was, I don't know. If this

1631
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: was Ty Madden with the Tigers, no one bad a

1632
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 3: fucking eye. It would just be something that happened. Oh

1633
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 3: he's a bad medical good for the Tigers, prou an

1634
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: organizational move. Take the first round pick next year and

1635
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: let him go back in the dress.

1636
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: He would have Manya give a show out to my

1637
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: friend Wheels here, who's a very casual baseball fan. He's

1638
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: gotten into it more good friend of mine, Angels fan.

1639
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: He said, if the Mets would have taken Sam Bachman

1640
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: and the same thing happened, he goes, no one cares,

1641
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: And I was.

1642
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: Like Wheels, No, no one at right.

1643
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: There is why the Mets did the right thing, because

1644
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: it's wouldn't be about the name. It shouldn't be about

1645
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: the notoriety. It should be about the actual factual information

1646
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: that we have, and from what the Mets seem to have,

1647
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: the smart decision in their eyes was to not sign

1648
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: Kamar Rocker. So I stand by them with it. I'm

1649
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: okay with it. I wish it wasn't the case. I

1650
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: wish we had him, but I feel like if the

1651
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: Mets front office, with the experience that we have and

1652
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: the knowledge came to the decision that it was smarter

1653
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: to go without Kamar Rocker than with Who am I

1654
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: to say that they're wrong?

1655
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: Definitely, like I couldn't agree with you're saying more. I

1656
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: think this all plays into my weird tinfoil hat conspiracy

1657
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: theory that Scott Boris has been pushing the media and

1658
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 3: just the general population into this point for the last

1659
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. This was an absolute concerted effort by

1660
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: I'll say it again, the greatest agent in the history

1661
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: of mankind. No one is as good at what he

1662
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 3: does with Scott Boys. Scott Boris has his own marketing

1663
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: company within his agency. Scott Boris has his own trainers

1664
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 3: within his agency. He allows his clients to get every

1665
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 3: single thing they need from him because he is so

1666
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: fucking good at it. These billboards popped up like two

1667
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: days after he was drafted. It's a fucking MLB draft.

1668
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 3: There were no Marcelo Meyer billboards in Boston. And he

1669
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: is far better player than k Jack Lighter Jack Lyther.

1670
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 3: This ship was stunk from the beginning. It didn't even

1671
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 3: make sense that he made it to the Mets. It

1672
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 3: was too good to be the Rockies.

1673
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: Thing where they couldn't draft him.

1674
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, there was too many fucking weird factors of play,

1675
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: and it's gonna take a few years for us to

1676
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: really see how this goes, and everything aside is going

1677
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 3: to be fascinating to watch Kamar Rocker's trajectory from here

1678
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 3: on it.

1679
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: I think we probably should have known something was up

1680
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: when the Rockies were interested. That should have been our

1681
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: red flag. When the most incompetent organization in Major League

1682
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: Baseball wanted Kamar Rocker, we should.

1683
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: Have known that something was wrong.

1684
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

1685
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: That's my hindsight's twenty twenty. Here Rockies were interested in Kamara,

1686
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: we should have been out. But anyway, that's enough about

1687
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: Kamara Rocker that you can only talk about it for

1688
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: so much because there really isn't much else besides what

1689
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: we just said. If you're a Mets fan, have your

1690
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: take whatever it is. But to kill the Mets organization

1691
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: over this would be foolish. There's a lot more things

1692
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: to get it mad about. Be mad about the trade deadline,

1693
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: don't be mad about Kamara Rocker.

1694
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: Definitely, But if you guys want to get your clicks,

1695
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 3: your likes, your retweets, like by all means get after.

1696
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: It, and I've had enough of this. Let's talk about

1697
01:04:59,000 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: Marlin's preview.

1698
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: The antidote for struggling Mets team is a four game

1699
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 3: series in Miami. On the other hand, this series could

1700
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: literally break my heart, my dreams, my soul and the

1701
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 3: hopes of this team.

1702
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: The rest of all, this series has huge, huge trap,

1703
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: feels you trap because the Mets play the Phillies in Philly,

1704
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: Philly the weekend after the Marlin series. This is a

1705
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: trap and I hope the Mets don't fall into it

1706
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: because the way they're playing, they're not beating the Marlins.

1707
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: I mean, the way they're playing, they could definitely defensively.

1708
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 3: It also sucks that we're going down to Miami right

1709
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 3: after the Yankees are leaving there with a sweep that

1710
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 3: has revived their season to pull them basically having the

1711
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 3: same win percentage as the Mets, which is just such

1712
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: a fucking knife in my back, my god. And also,

1713
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: on top of everything else, the Mets are going to

1714
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 3: face Jesus Lazardo tomorrow, Monday night tonight. When you guys

1715
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 3: listen to this, Yeah, the triumphant return of the once

1716
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 3: Golden Boy traded from the organization that nurtured him for

1717
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: a rental, and this is first shout with the new team,

1718
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Speaker 3: a team that clearly sought him out with a plan

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Speaker 3: in mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna probably pitch great. We got McGill going

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: in game one, that's what metts dot com sell me.

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01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: Game two, we got Taiwan against TVD. I'm guessing there's

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01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of tvd's. That game is gonna

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01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: either be Jordan Holloway or Braxton Garrett. I have seen

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01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: them different reports for either of them. Brax and Garrett

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01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: was sent down to the minor league in July twenty fifth.

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01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: So unless someone goes on the IL, which they could

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Speaker 1: put anyone in the io whenever they want, they can't

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Speaker 1: call Brax and Garrett up tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: It could happen, it could not, or on Tuesday, that

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01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: I mean, but if not, we'll get Jordan Holloway, who

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01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 3: just bona fide sucks. Yeah, he's a step, he's a step.

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Speaker 3: Belowslide mcgody air. If we don't hit Jordan Holloway, If

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Speaker 3: we lose Tay Suslsar though, and then lose to Jordan Holloway,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in a dead Oh my god, I'm

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01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 3: gonna go right to the East River than those dives.

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Speaker 2: Carrasco versus Thompson on Wednesday, and.

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Speaker 3: Zach Thompson is a nice little picture. He probably dices up.

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01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm starting gonna fancy.

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: This nce and then Thursday mess dot com is refusing

1741
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: to load. I guess we might not even have a clue.

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01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: Maybe rich Hill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Thursday afternoon games is gonna be a little

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01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 3: Miami Matina. Thursday at twelve ten is gonna be rich

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01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: Hill versus Trevor Rodgers, which is the number one game

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01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 3: that I don't want to watch.

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01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: No, of course, not that is going to be boring,

1748
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: and we're probably gonna lose that one does and feel

1749
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: like a great matchup. Trap trap, trap, Please God, don't

1750
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: fall into the trap, because we're we're definitely looking to

1751
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: head to the Phillies. I think it's hard not to,

1752
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: but you can't. You got you gotta just beat up

1753
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: on the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: They're not good.

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01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't even want to give a serious prediction because

1756
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 3: we've been giving those a lot recently and it's just

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01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 3: a little bit dangerous. Let's win on Monday night. Let's

1758
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: just score three runs off hissels asar though small goals, Yes,

1759
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 3: small goals, meet them, you feel more accomplished.

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, one game out of time, one step at

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01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: a time, one inning, one at bad at a time.

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Speaker 2: Let's focus on the little things. Let's get it done right.

1763
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: Because we didn't focus on the little things and get

1764
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: them done right in this game or in this series

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01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: against the Reds.

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Speaker 3: No, not the dish, at least not the dish.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's where it's gonna wrap up our

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Speaker 1: most somber and disappointing and sad and angry and frustrated

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01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: episode of the Mets Up podcast and longest number thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: Casey Sangle. I think we would have done him proud

1771
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: with our upset and our fervor and everything that was

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01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: coming out of our mouths. He would have loved a

1773
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: little bit of fire that we had for these New

1774
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: York Mets. Hopefully you guys aren't feeling as bad as us.

1775
01:07:58,600 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you're feeling good.

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that you guys are a little more positive

1777
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: than us, because, as I just said, it's.

1778
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 1: Not great here. But we will see how we feel

1779
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: after this Marlin series. That's what's great about this podcast.

1780
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: You can find us at the end of the Marvelin

1781
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: series for episode number thirty eight. Apple podcasts, Google Podcasts,

1782
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: Spotify on the YouTube channel at mets up, follow us

1783
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram. Mess Up podcast Nope, it's just

1784
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: at mets Up. I lied at mets up before we go.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say anything official, but there's a

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Speaker 3: chance that we have our first ever guest on the

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Speaker 3: podcast next. Oh yeah, this has the potential to be big.

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01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 3: I don't want to reveal it yet because I'm still

1789
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 3: in communication with who I'm in communication with. I'm gonna

1790
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 3: talk to him on the phone tomorrow to hopefully hammer

1791
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 3: things out. It's at an eighty right now. I want

1792
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 3: to make it one hundred before we say any names

1793
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: or anything, but I'm gonna tease it. So mets up

1794
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 3: listeners please get excited because we might really be dropping

1795
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 3: some big on Thursday or Friday would be And.

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Speaker 1: Here's a little hint for you, mets up listeners at

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: home lost in translation, do what you want with it,

1798
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: take you for what it is. But that is our

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01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 1: hint for who could be our first guest on the

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Speaker 1: mets Up podcast.

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Speaker 2: And it would be a sick one, and.

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01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 3: I'll gives mess Up listeners a second hit a walk

1803
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 3: on the bead.

1804
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 2: Ooh oh that's good. That's good.

1805
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: So if you guys figure it out, tweet us add

1806
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: thattst Up Instagram, Twitter, YouTube channel mess Up Podcast.

1807
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 2: I already told you where to listen to us. You

1808
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 2: guys know the drill from here on at We're gonna

1809
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 2: wrap up this long ass episode of the mess Up

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01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,759
Speaker 2: Podcast here. Thank you guys for listening, thank you for watching,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see you next time. Peace out.

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Speaker 3: See you there, you guys