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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading the Bengals Booth

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Speaker 2: Podcast the and I'll be crushing it. Addition, as we

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Speaker 2: take an in depth look at the three players selected

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Speaker 2: by the Bengals on day two of the draft, Chris Jenkins,

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Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton and McKinley Jackson. Coming up, you'll hear from

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Speaker 2: that trio as well as Bengals coaches. Then I'll discuss

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Speaker 2: the picks with my broadcast partner Dave Lappom and look

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Speaker 2: ahead to day three. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought

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Speaker 2: cho Banni Flip. Well, on Friday night, before Day two

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Speaker 2: of the draft got underway, several members of the local

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Speaker 2: draft expert, it's a can't miss snack with tremendous upside.

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Speaker 2: So if you're putting together, you're snacking big. The Key

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Speaker 2: Lime crumpled Chobanni Flip is a surefire first round draft pick. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's get to Day two of the draft. After addressing

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Speaker 2: offensive tackle in the first round with a selection of

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Speaker 2: Amarus Mims, the Bengals chose a defensive tackle in round

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Speaker 2: two in Michigan's Chris Jenkins. He's not a DJ Reeder

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Speaker 2: noseguard type who will clog the middle. He's a penetrator

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Speaker 2: who served as a team captain for the national champion

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Speaker 2: wolfver Reines. It's no secret that the Bengals need to

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Speaker 2: In Cincinnati got Dane Brugler's third rated defensive tackle with

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Speaker 2: a forty ninth overall pick. Here's Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: He was a priory position, but again, we weren't just

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Speaker 3: thank goodness he was there. But he was a priory

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Speaker 2: Jenkins lacks ideal size, He's six to two hundred and

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Speaker 2: ninety nine pounds, but he's an excellent athlete who earned

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Speaker 2: the nickname the Mutant from his strength coach at Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Our same coach, Coach Hurd, gave it to me because

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Speaker 4: I just went above and beyond in the weight room

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Speaker 4: my mentality, you know, how I carry myself, how I

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Speaker 2: The Mutant is the son of a four time Pro Bowler.

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Speaker 2: His dad, Chris Senior, spent ten years in the NFL

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Speaker 2: with the Panthers in Jets. In the next round, the

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Speaker 2: Bengals picks were announced by former Pro Bowl receiver TJ.

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Speaker 5: So this pick means this pick means something to me

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Speaker 5: with the eightieth pig in a twenty twenty four NFL draft,

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Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bingals select Jermaine Burdon wide receiver Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Burton spent his first two college seasons at Georgia before

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Speaker 2: As for that Hushman's out of connection. Burton says that

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Speaker 7: You know, it's honestly amazing, you know, having TJ train me,

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Speaker 7: know we also developed a relationship, you know, to the point,

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Speaker 2: With their second pick in the third round, number ninety

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Speaker 2: seven overall, the Bengals doubled down on defensive tackle and

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Speaker 2: chose McKinley Jackson out of Texas A and M who

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Speaker 3: He's a guy we've talked a lot about, you know.

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Speaker 3: He he fits a good spot for us. You know,

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Speaker 3: to take him. I don't think you ever go wrong

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Speaker 3: adding to your defensive line. You know, as a head coach,

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Speaker 3: Depth at defensive tackle defensive end is critical and if

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Speaker 2: Jackson was a two time captain at A and M

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Speaker 1: You know, I played football. I no matter what the

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Speaker 1: you know brings the championship.

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Speaker 2: for analysis of Day two and I'll look ahead to

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Speaker 2: the final four rounds of the draft with my broadcast

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Speaker 2: partner Dave Lapham. All Right, lap Let's start with the

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Speaker 2: Bengals second round draft pick defensive tackle Chris Jenkins out

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Speaker 2: of Michigan, a captain on a national championship team, the

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Speaker 2: son of a four time pro bowler, and obviously somebody

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are going to be counting on this year

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Speaker 2: to be an important part of their defensive tackle rotation,

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Speaker 2: no question.

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Speaker 8: You know, this kid is six two and a half,

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Speaker 8: about three hundred pounds, runs five forty He's got good

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Speaker 1: You know, it's and the thing, the.

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Speaker 8: Thing that's been impressive to me, and with the liberalization

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Speaker 1: With your hands. All of these guys.

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Speaker 8: The the the Bengals are drafted in the interior of

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Speaker 1: Big strong, massive hands, and that that hand strength is

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Speaker 8: I mean, if he gets you in the position, now

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Speaker 8: the body clamp on them. Those big strong muckers that

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Speaker 8: There's no question he's got excellent functional football strength. In

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not knocked off his feet.

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Speaker 8: He can stack and ship people pretty darn well good

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: He, like you say, grew up.

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Speaker 1: He can bull rush you.

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Speaker 8: a guy that is very, very consistent in his effort.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. He's a solid NFL prospect.

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Speaker 8: But I do think he plays the run better than

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Speaker 8: the past at this point in time. But that's what's

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Speaker 1: Basically the way they have their defensive lineman play in

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Speaker 8: So I think he can be you know, developed, I

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Speaker 8: think pretty quickly and effectively. Is a little bit better

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Speaker 2: He's not a gigantic man like Amarius Mims that we

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Speaker 2: met earlier today. Chris Jenkins is about six three, weighed

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Speaker 2: in at two hundred and ninety nine pounds, But the

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Speaker 2: old Michigan strength coach who followed Jim Harbaugh out to

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Speaker 2: the Chargers nicknamed him the Mutant when he was a

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Speaker 2: and his attitude, you know, when times were tough. So

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Speaker 2: sometimes you don't have to be three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, And he's you know you can probably you didn't

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Speaker 8: think Jenkins aspires.

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Speaker 8: And uh, it's Are all these guys gonna be starters?

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Speaker 8: And honestly, I think the closer you get to the

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Speaker 1: It does. It's so not a need. We don't want

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Speaker 8: Almost one of the more difficult spots to pick, and

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Speaker 2: seven overall. According to Dame Brugler of The Athletic, he

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he is. He's a zero technique of

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Speaker 8: I had him as the third rounder. You know it

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Speaker 8: because it's totally non scientific. But the Bengals obviously had

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Speaker 8: had hoped. You know, you start out with an offensive

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Speaker 1: They had defensive tackle.

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Speaker 8: In this In this case, I mean, Kenley Jackson rated

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Speaker 8: he's the he's the nose tackle they're looking for. And

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Speaker 1: He's six one and a half. You know, he's he's

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Speaker 8: Twenty six pounds, he's almost got.

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Speaker 1: A thirty four inch you know length to his arms.

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Speaker 8: He's got a ten inch and in a wingspan of

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Speaker 8: You know, there's no question. I mean, he has quick feeding.

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Speaker 8: But he's he's got a lot of masks and if

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Speaker 1: There's no question about that.

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Speaker 8: it's not like he can't play a defense where it's

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Speaker 8: So he's I think, I think he's you know, he

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Speaker 8: I think they gave up eighty two plays of twenty

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Speaker 1: And if you have trouble stopping.

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Speaker 1: And some of it was getting beaten physically.

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Speaker 8: A lot of it was you know, metal mistakes hit

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Speaker 8: particularly in this division. And it was amazing to me

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Speaker 1: They took one. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: Bengals take an offensive lineman, they take one. Bengals take

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Speaker 8: So Baltimore, I think did their solid job. Cleveland didn't

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Speaker 9: Initial stages, but in this division you'd have to be

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Speaker 2: So in between the two defensive tackles selected, there was

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Speaker 1: Jermaine Burton is a dog.

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Speaker 8: We're talking Georgia, We're talking Alabama. He plays with definitely

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Speaker 1: He can get vertical in a hurry. He's got speed

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Speaker 8: He's got an extremely low drop rate, it's the most

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Speaker 8: And again we talk about hands. His hands were oversized,

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Speaker 1: So I like to pick man. I'm excited to see

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Speaker 2: And the Bengals definitely vetted his character. They took one

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Speaker 8: Know, competitive nature of losing the temper, you know, confrontation

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Speaker 1: Man. The dude is competitive. He is a d a

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Speaker 2: Well, he spent the last few years training in the

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Speaker 2: off season under t J. Hushman Zada another guy who

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Speaker 2: could be described as a dog in his playing days.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if he's got TJ's stamp of approval,

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: I hear that.

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Speaker 8: And you know, here's a guy that you know, four

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Speaker 8: four five, you know, in his arms thirty one inches,

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Speaker 8: I mean his wingspans almost seventy five inches, uh, you know,

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Speaker 8: and and a little over six feet hundred ninety six pounds.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's uh, he's done. He's done a lot

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Speaker 8: of a lot of trains sty they drafted. They drafted

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Speaker 8: guys with measurables and a lot of traits that in

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Speaker 8: in uh, you know, everybody's estimation could lend itself to

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Speaker 8: success in the in the National Football League. And I

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Speaker 8: think I trust the fact that they feel like they

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Speaker 8: can control and handle any issues that he may have

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Speaker 8: and he'll be a big contributor for him on the

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Speaker 8: football field.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's quickly look ahead to Day three. The

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Speaker 2: Bengals have six picks left. They've got a fourth, a

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Speaker 2: fifth to sixth round picks, and two seventh round picks.

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Speaker 2: I think a couple of those picks will probably be

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Speaker 2: used on cornerbacks. Yep, that's cornerbacks, not quarterbacks. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be surprised if a pick is used on a punter

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Speaker 2: to complete with compete with Brad Robbins. Maybe somebody who

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Speaker 2: had experience as a kick returner in college. Since you've

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Speaker 2: got the new kick return rules in the NFL, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure they're thinking about somebody that can do that. Any

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Speaker 2: other thoughts for you on position groups they'll be attacking

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Speaker 2: on Day three?

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Speaker 8: You know, I agree with you, Dan, I mean, you

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Speaker 8: have to address the corners, and in the fourth, fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 8: and seventh round you're looking at twenty six draftable players,

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Speaker 8: you know. I mean there are forty one draftable corners overall,

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Speaker 8: and over half of them are going to be in

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Speaker 8: Day three of the draft. So that's why, you know,

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Speaker 8: it's like there was a run on corners. You know,

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Speaker 8: let's let's double down at the at the interior defensive

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Speaker 8: tackle position. That's an area that we need to address.

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Speaker 8: So I have no problem with them doing that, and

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Speaker 8: I do think they will attack that cornerback position. And

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Speaker 8: then after that, it's like, okay, well we do we

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Speaker 8: double down at the offensive tackle position? Do we address

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Speaker 8: the interior the offensive line? When you're talking a round six,

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Speaker 8: four through through six, you're looking at nineteen, nineteen and twenty,

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Speaker 8: you know, candidates in those rounds.

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Speaker 1: So it's a deep draft.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there's not you know, in my mind there

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Speaker 8: it's been talking to people around the league. There's not

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Speaker 8: a big difference in pick seventy to pick one hundred

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Speaker 8: and fifty with a lot of people. I mean, there

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Speaker 8: are a lot of teams around the league have similar grades.

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Speaker 8: It's not like there's a huge disparity of a major

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Speaker 8: drop off you know.

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Speaker 1: From from an eighty pick.

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Speaker 8: Scenario in this in this draft, so you know that

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Speaker 8: that goes well. I do think some of the position

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Speaker 8: groups that the Bengals will address and double down on

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Speaker 8: there there's death in those rounds and and uh, you know,

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Speaker 8: tej Christian zad is a great example. He's a seventh

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Speaker 8: round pick. Look at how his career turned out.

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Speaker 2: Excellent call on interior offensive lineman. I think there will

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Speaker 2: definitely be at least one of those guys selected as well.

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Speaker 2: It's after midnight. You've been talking for a long time tonight.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you spending a few minutes with us, and

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Speaker 2: I will see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir Dan, get a good night's sleep.

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Speaker 8: I know when my hit my head hits the pillow,

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Speaker 8: and ain't gonna take long to.

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Speaker 2: I'll have another edition of this podcast following day three,

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Speaker 2: and then on Monday, I'll get the front office perspective

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Speaker 2: as I'll be joined by the Bengals Director of College Scouting,

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Speaker 2: Mike Potts. That's going to do it for this episode.

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