Speaker 1: Welcome in what Driving the Great episode two seven or
Speaker 1: three seventy three Pardon Me, brought to you as always
Speaker 1: by our friends at boost Mobile. Busy week in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And there, you know, we are now to where teams
Speaker 1: are really starting to take shape. First quarter of the
Speaker 1: season is done. You know, Devonte didn't used to be
Speaker 1: like this. I'm gonna sound like it. I'm gonna sound
Speaker 1: like an old man here, and I might sound like
Speaker 1: an old man with the Shadoor conversation. This first one, though,
Speaker 1: is not about like taste. It's just reality that post
Speaker 1: twenty eleven lockout, when they really changed the rules on
Speaker 1: what you can and can't do in the offseason, end
Speaker 1: in training camp, and then later on when they removed
Speaker 1: one of the four preseason games even less pad practices,
Speaker 1: added a seventeenth regular season game, September really became not
Speaker 1: quite an extended preseason, but similar to that in a
Speaker 1: way it didn't used to be. And so teams use
Speaker 1: September now to kind of try to figure out who
Speaker 1: they are and get you know, get so they are
Speaker 1: rolling by October, when in the past that's literally what
Speaker 1: the preseason was. Starters played a lot big time players
Speaker 1: played a lot, they had had a bunch of hard
Speaker 1: to a day practices, and so it makes handicapping the
Speaker 1: league the first few weeks of the season a little
Speaker 1: more difficult because teams really do change over the course
Speaker 1: of the year. But now we're in October, and now
Speaker 1: you kind of not are who you are, but you're
Speaker 1: a lot closer to your final form. And the hope
Speaker 1: is that you didn't dig yourself to big of a
Speaker 1: hole in September, and so that the two teams that
Speaker 1: we thought could be legit certainly playoff and in one
Speaker 1: of their cases championship contenders who dug quite a big hole,
Speaker 1: are playing each other this weekend in Baltimore and Houston.
Speaker 1: Those are the two teams that didn't survive September at
Speaker 1: least five hundred, and now they are their backs are
Speaker 1: against the wall a bit. Obviously, other teams, like the
Speaker 1: Niners dealing with injuries or the Bengals dealing with Burrow
Speaker 1: being out, are in different spots. But from a record perspective,
Speaker 1: but I think we're gonna start seeing really good football.
Speaker 1: And we've seen some good football, but really good football
Speaker 1: starting that is starting probably not tonight, but this weekend
Speaker 1: and that I'm excited for.
Speaker 2: How are you doing this morning, I'm doing pretty good, Pops.
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. This has been an interesting week because,
Speaker 1: as expected, there are corners of the Internet and corners
Speaker 1: of the corners and sections of my colleagues that are
Speaker 1: I don't even think mad at me is the right word, like,
Speaker 1: just openly, I don't know if mocking is the right word.
Speaker 1: Something very they're nonplussed about some of my Lamar commentary
Speaker 1: the last seventy two hours, and this is an annual
Speaker 1: tradition and the only part of it that I actually
Speaker 1: have been not irked, but yeah, ir well, not even
Speaker 1: hit home, just annoyed. I guess the right word is
Speaker 1: folks saying it's a straw man that people don't acknowledge
Speaker 1: Lamar's big game or postseason struggles. I'm like, it is
Speaker 1: because does all of you picked the Ravens to win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl every year? So that it feels like
Speaker 1: that kind of fails to acknowledge it. But I'm not
Speaker 1: doing Lamar today. I mean, we will do a little
Speaker 1: Ravens because I do think there's a chance he plays.
Speaker 1: I think there is a chance he should so I
Speaker 1: and I think they could win with with Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: and that's not it's not an just if you just
Speaker 1: run Dereck Henry thirty five times, I think you can
Speaker 1: beat up flailing Texans team. But we'll get to that first.
Speaker 1: We have to get to what we're not going to
Speaker 1: get to, which is straight to voicemail brought to you
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Speaker 1: along with ty Lill. Big weekend for those threes, those
Speaker 1: streamer guys that I got to spend a little bit
Speaker 1: of time with back in June, in Kai, ty Lil
Speaker 1: and Speed Speed hanging out with Brady Kai and Tyler
Speaker 1: hanging out with Bron. Uh. Ty Lil could not have
Speaker 1: been more excited. And look, Bron cut off Kay's dread.
Speaker 1: So was that real? He really did that right? I'll
Speaker 1: be honest. I didn't watch the Mafia thon thing, but listen,
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Kevin Hart also, who was there when I
Speaker 1: met those guys. Kevin Hart goes on their stream everybody's
Speaker 1: doing the streamers. I gotta get with it. I said
Speaker 1: I was gonna do over the summer. I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: I gotta get with it. Seth Curry joins his brother,
Speaker 1: and the Warriors love it. I think I called this
Speaker 1: six months ago.
Speaker 2: Not I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I mentioned that I could
Speaker 1: when we were talking about the Warriors offseason, that I
Speaker 1: thought Seth would fit well. I honestly though, I think
Speaker 1: I just said it, like in passing. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't do like a whole thing on it, but
Speaker 1: I love that. I think Seth's a really good player
Speaker 1: in his role, and I liked the idea of Seth
Speaker 1: and Steph being together. I also thought the little viral video,
Speaker 1: even if it was miss Lee of the rookies on
Speaker 1: the Warriors being nervous to ask Steph for a picture,
Speaker 1: was adorable. I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 2: Literal splash brothers.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even think about that. You're right, You're right. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's a great time.
Speaker 2: Biological splash brothers.
Speaker 1: Biological splash brothers love it. And the w NBA commissioner
Speaker 1: is going to lose her job. This is you can't
Speaker 1: come back from it. And I'm not going to act
Speaker 1: like I am an expert on Kathy Ingelbert's tenure at
Speaker 1: the head of the league. I am going to say
Speaker 1: when a player is good as high profile and maybe
Speaker 1: most importantly, as respected as an EFSTA, Collier goes full
Speaker 1: ether on you for five minutes in a prepared statement.
Speaker 1: Your days are numbered, so the I there are. I
Speaker 1: have enough respect for the people that hover and follow
Speaker 1: the WNBA every single day and have more expertise on
Speaker 1: it than me that I will leave the details or
Speaker 1: the detailed opinions on that to them. I don't want
Speaker 1: to parachute in on something that I don't feel fully
Speaker 1: solid ground on, knowing the full background of her tenure,
Speaker 1: the good, the bad, or whatever. But I do know
Speaker 1: I feel like I know enough about just business in
Speaker 1: general that when one of your admirals goes public on
Speaker 1: the record of we have lost faith in the Central Command,
Speaker 1: central Command usually has a change. All right, Please like
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Speaker 1: I did not think we would be starting with the
Speaker 1: Browns third string quarterback. However, because of the last twenty
Speaker 1: four hours, and because this show loves itself some meta
Speaker 1: media discussion, we are going to start with the Browns
Speaker 1: third string quarterback. Go right ahead, pal, No, I'm kidding,
Speaker 1: tricked me. Hold on, I was about to say demoni's
Speaker 1: Mike's not working. I just want I went to see
Speaker 1: if my headset got disconnected. That was really good mouthing
Speaker 1: of the words. You totally tricked me. All right, good
Speaker 1: job there. I mean that's for watching watching on YouTube.
Speaker 1: You got the bit if you're the if you're listening
Speaker 1: to us on podcasts, it doesn't really play, but good job.
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, So Joe Flacco has been benched
Speaker 2: and Dylan Gabriel is the new quarterback one and a
Speaker 2: shaduur respondence to that news and oppressor and maybe Rex
Speaker 2: Ryan with a little bit of meme or miming action
Speaker 2: thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me let me give the audience the
Speaker 1: very short history of this. Okay. A week ago, Shador
Speaker 1: gave a somewhat innocuous but probably poorly worded comment when
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I'm paraphrasing, but I think this
Speaker 1: is going to be close to an exact quote. You know,
Speaker 1: I watched the league, and I'm better than some of
Speaker 1: those guys out there starting. I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: a huge deal. I think it. I think that one
Speaker 1: of the reasons demonse that I thought that comment was
Speaker 1: likely to not go great for him was because one
Speaker 1: could argue these starting quarterback in the league playing the
Speaker 1: worst was his own. You know what. I so if
Speaker 1: he had if he was third string for the Bills
Speaker 1: and said, you know, I watched the league, and you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm better than some of the guys starting.
Speaker 1: I think the exact quote was, if you see the
Speaker 1: quarterback play in the league right now, I know I'm
Speaker 1: capable of doing better than that. Then I think it's
Speaker 1: less of a problem. When a lot of people felt
Speaker 1: like and feel like the Brown starting quarterback was playing
Speaker 1: the worst of everyone in the league, it could have
Speaker 1: been construed as an unintentional shot at Flacco. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was that at all, but it was just
Speaker 1: a little trickier of a spot. Does that part make
Speaker 1: sense what I'm describing there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay. Then Rex Ryan goes on TV and makes a
Speaker 1: fool of himself, Like every time I see Rex Ryan,
Speaker 1: he's just talking about how much someone sucks. It's like
Speaker 1: the whole bit it it's that Russell Wilson can't play
Speaker 1: dead in the Western It's the end of his career's over.
Speaker 2: People like they're the reason, you know, every problem in
Speaker 2: his life that he has.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's I don't personally like that his style.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be transparent on this. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know Rex personally, I'm not I don't want please
Speaker 1: awful announcing. Don't make this a nick right offict rates.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to do that. I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1: I think Rex like goes on TV. It's like this
Speaker 1: guy sucks. This coordinator is an idiot. I do a
Speaker 1: better job with that bang I'm out here, and so
Speaker 1: I just don't love that. Let me put it, he
Speaker 1: would it just it. He would not fit on first
Speaker 1: things first, you know what I mean. But I mean
Speaker 1: the different styles are different folks, and I wouldn't fit
Speaker 1: on other shows whatever. I'm really trying to be kind here,
Speaker 1: but but be honest with my opinion pretty clearly. Oh
Speaker 1: and one of the things he said. He said two
Speaker 1: things that really struck me with the Shadoor commentary. One
Speaker 1: was he basically reported that Shadoor is not doing the work.
Speaker 1: He was like, get in there and study. If I
Speaker 1: know this, the whole league knows this. It's like wow,
Speaker 1: like Rex Ryan elbowing schefter off the breaking news beat,
Speaker 1: like I hadn't. I had not seen that reported anywhere,
Speaker 1: that Shador has been lazy or not paying attention to meetings.
Speaker 1: That would be news. But the other thing he said was,
Speaker 1: you know, shut up and dribble, Not quite shut up
Speaker 1: and dribble, but shut your mouth. So Shadoor yesterday was
Speaker 1: asked about Dylan Gabriel being named the starter and about
Speaker 1: how he was not elevated to second string, because that's
Speaker 1: the other piece of news here. It didn't go flat.
Speaker 1: Typically if a veteran quarterback, not always, but I shouldn't
Speaker 1: even say typically. Sometimes when a veteran quarterback is benched,
Speaker 1: he then goes to the bottom of the depth chart.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a veteran. But last year when Bryce Young
Speaker 1: got benched for Andy Dalton that first game, Bryce wasn't
Speaker 1: the backup, you know what I mean, Like it was
Speaker 1: he went all the way down the ladder. And then
Speaker 1: so there was an opportunity that it was going to
Speaker 1: be Gabriel one, Schador two, Flaco three that ended up
Speaker 1: not happening, just Gabriel and Flacco flips your door stayed three.
Speaker 1: He was asked about all of this, and he smiled
Speaker 1: and in my opinion, looked like he always does, which
Speaker 1: is charming, and seemingly talked without talking, moved his mouth,
Speaker 1: and I actually wonder if a professional, I wonder if
Speaker 1: he was giving real answers, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean he was clearly he wasn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, just speaking gibberish. I now, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the sentences were, you know, a inaudible. I was told,
Speaker 1: you know, on TV, they told me not to talk,
Speaker 1: so this is me not talking or I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was an inaudible. I'm happy for Dylan to
Speaker 1: be getting this opportunity. I'm still working hard. But he
Speaker 1: was clearly saying sentences, but they were dead signed. And
Speaker 1: the reason I wanted to start the show with it
Speaker 1: is because this is just a perfect, just perfect moment
Speaker 1: for today's media and social media. Because if you want,
Speaker 1: which I don't want to do, to kill Shador, it's
Speaker 1: an example of just wanting immaturity. I don't want to
Speaker 1: kill Shador. And if you want to blindly support Shador,
Speaker 1: the criticism he gets from this will be an example
Speaker 1: the kid can't win. He talks and he gets yelled at.
Speaker 1: He literally doesn't talk and you kill him anyway. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that either, because I'm not an idiot.
Speaker 1: What everyone, every adult has a responsibility to set down
Speaker 1: for a moment, their priors and to ask them this
Speaker 1: honest question. If Shadoor was your best friend, if he
Speaker 1: were your I don't want to say son, because Prime
Speaker 1: has I think, not helped him on this. And I'll
Speaker 1: get to that in a second. If he were your
Speaker 1: godson or your nephew, or you were his high school
Speaker 1: guidance counselor who he stayed in touch with, and he
Speaker 1: called you up and was like, hey, do you see
Speaker 1: what Rex Ryan said about me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I saw, And you saw that Gabriel's the starter now right, Yeah?
Speaker 2: I saw.
Speaker 1: So when they asked me about it, listen to what
Speaker 1: my plan is. I'm gonna answer their questions silently. What
Speaker 1: do you You're gonna like write it down? No, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stand in front of the cameras and act like
Speaker 1: I'm talking, but not make any sounds. How awesome does that?
Speaker 1: How awesome of an idea is that all of us
Speaker 1: would say, don't fucking do that, man, It's a bad idea,
Speaker 1: fair or not bad idea? Why they's told me I
Speaker 1: shouldn't talk. Buddy, here's all you gotta say. Asked about Dylan.
Speaker 1: Really happy for Dylan. You know, he and I obviously
Speaker 1: same draft class. We've been working together this whole time.
Speaker 1: Joe's been great to all of us. You know, it's
Speaker 1: coach's choice to make a change, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: Dylan works hard, He's a really good player. I'm excited,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited to watch him. Well, are you upset?
Speaker 1: You know you didn't get bumped up to second string?
Speaker 1: You know, do you listen? I I believe in myself.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you guys and act like
Speaker 1: I don't. I believe that I will one day be
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in this But my job right now
Speaker 1: is to keep doing what you know, what I've been doing, studying,
Speaker 1: working hard, being a good teammate, and hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: we can get back on the winning track this weekend.
Speaker 1: That's all you have to do. Everything else is foolishness.
Speaker 1: And anyone acting like acknowledging that him doing a bit
Speaker 1: in the locker room in front of the media as
Speaker 1: the third string quarterback is good for him or smart
Speaker 1: or productive is a liar.
Speaker 2: It's also not the third string quarterback apparently, what do
Speaker 2: you mean, Well, it was Joe and then it was Dylan,
Speaker 2: and then they moved him down below Joe again.
Speaker 1: That he is still third string, Like no, y, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he stayed third He didn't know they listen.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how he's looked at practice
Speaker 1: at this point. I don't know how he is in
Speaker 1: film study. I know that he played one preseason game
Speaker 1: looked awesome, played another preseason game looked bad. I like
Speaker 1: all of these. So I don't know if in that
Speaker 1: building there are different camps, like Stefanski is deeply invested
Speaker 1: in Gabriel, but the owner wanted Shador and so I
Speaker 1: don't know any of that. I don't None of that
Speaker 1: is relevant to this piece of it. Just control what
Speaker 1: you can control, Bro. You are not right now getting
Speaker 1: the opportunity to show what you can do on the
Speaker 1: field publicly, So all you can do is show that
Speaker 1: you can be a true professional privately or you know,
Speaker 1: in your role as backup quarterback. And this is what
Speaker 1: And I did Cam Newton's show a couple days ago,
Speaker 1: and Cam has real excuse me, sympathy for Shudor and
Speaker 1: Cam feels like a lot of what he det like that.
Speaker 1: You know, Cam had a real hard time when he
Speaker 1: had to be a backup, and Cam felt his celebrity
Speaker 1: and aura worked against him at those things. And I
Speaker 1: said this to Cam and I'll expand on it here.
Speaker 1: One is, while I respect the I respect folks who
Speaker 1: believe Shadoor does have starting caliber talent and traits and
Speaker 1: will be a good NFL quarterback. I'm a lot of
Speaker 1: people I respect have that opinion and fair no problem.
Speaker 1: Cam was talking about him as if Cam and Shadoor
Speaker 1: were at all similar prospects. They weren't man like Shadoor
Speaker 1: is whether he should have been or not. He's a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. And the other piece of it that
Speaker 1: I really wish somebody close to Shador would really explain
Speaker 1: to him, as this man you have, maybe it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be this way, but it is. You have one of
Speaker 1: the only jobs left in modern America where celebrity works
Speaker 1: against you in almost every other job. I don't care
Speaker 1: what it is. If it's like, hey, I can do
Speaker 1: the job well. Also, oddly, I'm very famous on TikTok
Speaker 1: that doesn't hurt you, it usually helps you. The only
Speaker 1: job where your bosses want you to be as anonymous
Speaker 1: as possible is back up NFL quarterback. And now maybe
Speaker 1: the the organizations are too stodgy. Maybe that's stuck it.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe that'll change. It ain't changing this month.
Speaker 1: And I do think we have seen over the course
Speaker 1: of these few months some of the reason that once
Speaker 1: teams and this was the seminal moment, once he was
Speaker 1: not greated as franchise quarterback coming out of the draft
Speaker 1: top ten, top fifteen pick, and he was greated as
Speaker 1: backup who could one day compete to be a starter,
Speaker 1: that his job description changed massively, and he is still
Speaker 1: carrying himself as if it hadn't. And I am not
Speaker 1: asking for the kid to be humbled. I hate that commentary.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking for him to change who he is
Speaker 1: at a personal level. I am asking for him to
Speaker 1: recognize that this shit works against him and his dad,
Speaker 1: who everybody loves. Myself included instagramming in response to this video,
Speaker 1: all these laughing emojis and writing good one, son, you
Speaker 1: did that is not helpful. Go to Monte go ahead.
Speaker 1: I can tell you.
Speaker 2: I want to say no. I didn't know that. I
Speaker 2: didn't know that happened. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you were a one step like I guess, he was
Speaker 2: still third on the dead chart, but Joe Flag was
Speaker 2: getting bingched. You were a step closer in the direction
Speaker 2: that you wanted to be added. So there it was unnecessary.
Speaker 1: It's just and this is what's frustrating to me, And
Speaker 1: this is why I wanted to lead the show with it,
Speaker 1: because it is a My favorite topics are when sports,
Speaker 1: a sports discussion is a microcosm for a bigger, worldwide,
Speaker 1: you know, holistic discussion. There are going to be so
Speaker 1: many disingenuous fools that today try to act like see
Speaker 1: damned if you do, damned if you don't, you tell
Speaker 1: him to shut up, and then when he literally does,
Speaker 1: you criticize him for that too, as if we we
Speaker 1: can't hold multiple thoughts in our head at the same time,
Speaker 1: and as if we're not all functioning adults that recognize
Speaker 1: this was he was running a bit. He is doing
Speaker 1: the forty five seconds to stand up in the locker
Speaker 1: room as the third string quarterback, when all you've gotta
Speaker 1: do is not not do a single thing that is
Speaker 1: going to add to the questions the media is going
Speaker 1: to ask Stefanski and then by your time, bro, because
Speaker 1: Gabriel is not going to start the last thirteen games.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's good enough. Listen, if they are
Speaker 1: going to give Gabriel a real opportunity, there's no question
Speaker 1: about that. And Gabriel, you know they have a real
Speaker 1: investment in him. I just don't think Gabriel's good enough
Speaker 1: to run the table the rest of the way. So
Speaker 1: he should get a shot. He just has to be
Speaker 1: ready for it. I just I I really think he
Speaker 1: is getting And people thought that this was patronizing when
Speaker 1: I said he's getting bad advice. They're like, he's twenty
Speaker 1: three year old, grown man. Shut up. Monsey's twenty seven.
Speaker 1: I give Demanse professional advice all the time. I'm forty.
Speaker 1: I call my dad for advice on things like the
Speaker 1: idea that because right he's almost old enough to rent
Speaker 1: a car without paying the extra fee, he's beyond advice.
Speaker 1: Is just idiotic, Like, yes, he's allowed now at twenty three,
Speaker 1: he's his own man. He can make his own decisions.
Speaker 1: He can take the advice and throw it in the garbage.
Speaker 1: I and so, but the idea that you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: people in your life like, hey, man, that's a mistake.
Speaker 1: It's and I really like him. The thing is this,
Speaker 1: I think I do think he's charming. I do I
Speaker 1: think he's talented. I do think he is well intentioned.
Speaker 1: But I think there is a protectionism He right now,
Speaker 1: to me, is in a really and they're not a
Speaker 1: similar player, but oh he is risking entering the tbow
Speaker 1: zone of your biggest fans hurt you where because you
Speaker 1: are such a celebrity and because they have more you are.
Speaker 1: You are not only a person anymore. You are like
Speaker 1: a vessel for their own wants and desires. That that
Speaker 1: works against you professionally. And Dion, and the last thing
Speaker 1: I'll say is this, and this is where like it's
Speaker 1: tough because you see your own kids through a parent's eyes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, through the and I get
Speaker 1: that Dion's gotta recognize, man, you could do this, your
Speaker 1: son can't. Why because Dion's one of the greatest players
Speaker 1: in the history of the sport and your son is not.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't. And you'd be like, well, Dion wasn't
Speaker 1: that until no, Dion was. Dion was a Dion going
Speaker 1: into the draft was talking about this team better not
Speaker 1: draft me or bankrupt the bank like that, Like I
Speaker 1: guess what people are like. All right, he might be
Speaker 1: a lot to deal with, But did you see the
Speaker 1: forty yard dash time? Did you see him locked down
Speaker 1: in the side of a field for two years at
Speaker 1: Florida State. Deon's like, I might I play baseball too.
Speaker 1: They're like, we'll fly you out there, buddy, whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Dion had two things going for him that are very
Speaker 1: important that you'd ordered not. One is he was a
Speaker 1: super superstar on the field, and the other one is
Speaker 1: he wasn't a quarterback. Because as great as Dion was,
Speaker 1: if he were a quarterbacks instead of a cornerback, it
Speaker 1: would have been trickier. And so Cam was a quarterback
Speaker 1: and dealt with some of this. But he's the he
Speaker 1: had was coming off the single greatest season in the
Speaker 1: history of college football, and so like he can I
Speaker 1: just I don't know, man, I legit worry that he is.
Speaker 2: He's hurt, He's like wounded like all the time. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: feelings are always heard, and I think he kind of
Speaker 2: does it not to deal with it sometimes since I
Speaker 2: don't know man. But like you know, with that type no.
Speaker 1: I think that's a great take the idea that he
Speaker 1: is for the first time in his football life consistently
Speaker 1: being told yeah, you're not good enough, right right? And
Speaker 1: when not only was he not told that before he
Speaker 1: was the best player or second best player on every
Speaker 1: team he ever played on. Yeah, and so I think
Speaker 1: there is something to that. I think the whole thing though,
Speaker 1: I just I, oh, that was a mistake, all right.
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Speaker 1: All right, Demanse, let's go to Kansas City and Jacksonville. Please.
Speaker 2: All right, So we're calling this one the right bull.
Speaker 2: Your Chiefs go against the Jags on Monday night football.
Speaker 2: So thread the needle on how you would kind of
Speaker 2: like this game to go for you to come out
Speaker 2: on top, because you know, obviously these are both your guys.
Speaker 1: Well yes, I mean they are they are my guys.
Speaker 1: But this is like, I mean, this is this is
Speaker 1: like a Demanse versus Luca situation, my actual son versus
Speaker 1: my pretend son and so like, I like, I really
Speaker 1: like Trevor, I love Patrick, Like, there's not a this
Speaker 1: isn't a what was that Macaulay Culkin movie where the
Speaker 1: moms at the cliff? Was it the good Sons? She
Speaker 1: has to pick which were the kids? This isn't like
Speaker 1: a hard one. Well, one of the kids was evil.
Speaker 1: It was really tricky. Doesn't matter, but uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean no, I'm rooting for the Chiefs to roll. Now.
Speaker 1: In a perfect world, they roll, and Trevor looks good,
Speaker 1: and the Jags defense has been really good. They have
Speaker 1: been really good primarily because they are forcing three turnovers
Speaker 1: a game. They have thirteen four turnovers through nine games.
Speaker 1: The most interesting thing going on with the Jags right now,
Speaker 1: though Demonse, is not Trevor as much as I wish
Speaker 1: it was, because he's just not playing that well. Like,
Speaker 1: not only is he not the reason they're three to one,
Speaker 1: you could argue that if he could have just taken
Speaker 1: care of the ball against Cincinnati, they'd be four and
Speaker 1: up like the Jags are. If Trevor starts playing better,
Speaker 1: the Jags are legit dangerous. The most interesting thing with
Speaker 1: the Jags right now is Travis Hunter, and they haven't
Speaker 1: figured out how to use him, and right now it's
Speaker 1: kind of the worst of both worlds, which is he's
Speaker 1: not full time either side of the ball. He's we
Speaker 1: thought he would play more than you know, any of
Speaker 1: these other first round picks. Instead he's playing less than
Speaker 1: some of them, and he's not being super impactful in
Speaker 1: either spot. And so folks that were saying, again it's
Speaker 1: been a month. He needs to be full time one
Speaker 1: way and a bit player the other way. I think
Speaker 1: right now that looks like that was that would have
Speaker 1: been the smarter way to play it through September. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe that'll change. But I think for Jacksonville to justify
Speaker 1: trading away the fifth pick, a third round pick, and
Speaker 1: next year's first round pick to move up for a
Speaker 1: non quarterback, it had to be because they thought they
Speaker 1: were getting two players. I thought they were getting two players,
Speaker 1: and right now they have just gotten one okay player
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. So that part, that's
Speaker 1: the most interesting part for the Jaguars go ahead.
Speaker 2: Do you think that the Chiefs will backslide a little
Speaker 2: bit from their progress that they made with Baltimore as
Speaker 2: far as the offense.
Speaker 1: Listen, I think that the offensive line is getting better
Speaker 1: week by week. You now have almost you know, you
Speaker 1: now have wide receivers two, three, four, and five. You're
Speaker 1: still missing wide receiver one in Rashi Rice Kelsey is
Speaker 1: looking better than he looked last year. I think the
Speaker 1: offense is going to continue to look good. And the
Speaker 1: Chiefs have averaged their last five games with worthy going
Speaker 1: back to last year, averaged twenty eight points per game,
Speaker 1: and last year that was with the offensive line kind
Speaker 1: of you know, being in shambles to a degree on
Speaker 1: the left hand side. I now Jacksonville's defense is obviously
Speaker 1: better than Baltimore's. I don't expect the Chiefs to go
Speaker 1: eight straight possessions without a punt like they did against Baltimore.
Speaker 1: But I do think Kansas City goes to Jacksonville, handles
Speaker 1: their business and then you know, has a hell of
Speaker 1: an opportunity on Sunday Night football against the Lions in
Speaker 1: the final game without Rashik. But I I don't want
Speaker 1: to get overly excited about Taekwan Thornton, but he's been
Speaker 1: good and I'm now looking at Juju's been really solid
Speaker 1: in his role, but he just can't move anymore like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he just has You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what his forty yard time would be
Speaker 1: right now, but it feels like it would be like
Speaker 1: four to eight. But he's been a good blocker, he's
Speaker 1: been he's in the right place all those things. But
Speaker 1: I am starting to think about what this offense is
Speaker 1: going to look like when Rashi Rice is in Juju's role.
Speaker 1: Xavier is on one side, and I at this point
Speaker 1: I trust Thornton more than I trust Hollywood Brown, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have Thornton as your number three,
Speaker 1: Hollywood is your four, Juju is depth, and Kelsey with
Speaker 1: all that space in the middle of the field. Now,
Speaker 1: that won't be the case obviously this weekend or Monday
Speaker 1: night because Rice isn't back yet. But I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna see more from Travis just by virtue of having Thornton,
Speaker 1: who's a burner, and Xavier out there that he's gonna
Speaker 1: have more space to operate with. They still don't have
Speaker 1: a running back. I trust that seventh round rookie Richard's
Speaker 1: We'll see if they incorporate him more. That's the one
Speaker 1: spot on the team that I would like to see
Speaker 1: them potentially upgrade in the trade market. But I'm I
Speaker 1: would be very surprised if Kansas City can't go to
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and figure out how to get a win against
Speaker 1: a really good Jags team. Now, if the Jags win,
Speaker 1: Jags are four and one, you got to really take
Speaker 1: them seriously. But I don't think they're gonna win.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, who do you who's the weak link on
Speaker 2: the Jags right now? Would you say that's Trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 1: I mean, he's playing I don't think he is, but
Speaker 1: he is playing like it at the end's been good.
Speaker 1: Now that Brian Thomas Junior's been disappointed as well, and
Speaker 1: then that he's had a lot of drops, the defense
Speaker 1: has been great. Like, Trevor's got to be better, There's
Speaker 1: no way around it. I fair is fair, Trevor's got
Speaker 1: to be better. All right, Let's go to tonight's game.
Speaker 2: So party is out for tonight's game. He's still dealing
Speaker 2: with the turf too injury. With Perty's last game, he
Speaker 2: threw two picks, he had a fumble Mac Jones, and
Speaker 2: his two games is undefeated. So is it going to
Speaker 2: be on that situation? Do you think the forty nine
Speaker 2: ers have a chance tonight, And how concern should the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers be about Brod Perty's health.
Speaker 1: I do not think the forty nine ers have a
Speaker 1: chance tonight. I think the Rams are excellent, and I
Speaker 1: would be hugely concerned about Perty's health. I would also
Speaker 1: be furious with my medical staff. Once again, if I'm
Speaker 1: the Niners, I it's not like the NFL spinds a
Speaker 1: wheel to determine who's playing Thursday night each week. You
Speaker 1: if you're the Niners, you knew that you were playing
Speaker 1: Thursday this week. Purty clearly was not one hundred percent
Speaker 1: this past Sunday. They let him play anyway, the injury
Speaker 1: got worse. He now is definitively going to miss this game,
Speaker 1: and he's not even healthy enough to be like the
Speaker 1: emergency quarterback for them and could miss more time. I
Speaker 1: don't understand, especially because they did go to a zero
Speaker 1: with mac Jones, how they don't hold party out demanse
Speaker 1: this past Sunday and then he gets four extra days
Speaker 1: before he would be playing against the Rams to heal
Speaker 1: up that toe, and then ten days before the next game.
Speaker 1: You know you could get you could have eased him
Speaker 1: back in three games off and then he plays the Rams,
Speaker 1: then a mini buy before they play the next week. Now,
Speaker 1: this is probably gonna be a problem all year, which
Speaker 1: brings me to the bigger party conversation. Man I, I
Speaker 1: said all off season, why would you be in a
Speaker 1: rush to pay this player? He struggle at his worst
Speaker 1: year yet last year has dealt with some injuries and
Speaker 1: has no leverage whatsoever. Just wait and see. They gave
Speaker 1: him fifty what three million dollars a year and now
Speaker 1: like it has been four games into the contract, if
Speaker 1: they could wipe it away, would they? Of course? And
Speaker 1: I know that there is it felt unfair because he
Speaker 1: had made no money at all as the final pick
Speaker 1: of the draft, and they had been to a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and been to a conference championship game and two
Speaker 1: of his years he had played really well. But you're
Speaker 1: not in the fairness business. You're in the football business.
Speaker 1: And the other had they not paid him? And then this,
Speaker 1: you know, we see this opening month of the season.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Mac Jones, who is basically on the minimum,
Speaker 1: can be dropped into this offense without all the weapons
Speaker 1: and it can function. Are we better off spending our
Speaker 1: money elsewhere? We like? Do we need a fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars a year quarterback unless he's a true difference maker.
Speaker 1: And that's That's the other piece of this is we
Speaker 1: have so much evidence that that Shanahan system is relatively
Speaker 1: quarterback proof. Now, listen, parties, A healthy party is better
Speaker 1: than mac and raises your ceiling. But does he raise
Speaker 1: your ceiling more than having three separate Pro Bowl level
Speaker 1: players that you could get with fifty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he does, so I have been
Speaker 1: There are very few opinions that have spanned the course
Speaker 1: of five six years that have aged better than my
Speaker 1: I do not believe the Niners quarterback is as good
Speaker 1: as his numbers suggest. It's about Shanahan, the weapons and
Speaker 1: the system then that take. But once again, I think
Speaker 1: that takes going to age quite well. It also should
Speaker 1: be noted because people are putting out there the Niners
Speaker 1: wide receivers of her room, and I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: recognize those guys. Patrick Mahomes won Super Bowls with him,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson, sky Moore, Mark wes Valdez, Scantling. What do
Speaker 1: you expect anyone to do? I don't know. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: won Super Bowl. So like the there is that, all right?
Speaker 1: I know you want to ask me about Pooka.
Speaker 2: Uh yes, where would you rank him among amongst wide receivers.
Speaker 2: He's number one in yards receptions and yards by.
Speaker 1: A lot, by a lot.
Speaker 2: Stafford loves him.
Speaker 1: He's on pace demons through sixteen games, not even seventeen
Speaker 1: game season, for more than one hundred and sixty catches
Speaker 1: in the first ever two thousand yard season. So here
Speaker 1: is all right, Here is the It's weird to say
Speaker 1: he has almost an ironclad case that he should be
Speaker 1: in consideration as the best receiver in the NFL. Yet
Speaker 1: I cannot wrap my mind around the idea that he's
Speaker 1: better than Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. And I feel
Speaker 1: like he could have a two thousand yard season and
Speaker 1: I still would not be able to wrap my mind
Speaker 1: around it. But you know, he's doing it with not
Speaker 1: great quarterback play. He's doing it under I shouldn't say
Speaker 1: he's not great quarterback play. He's doing it when he's
Speaker 1: not fully healthy. He's been able to just do it.
Speaker 1: And it's I think he's playing at a higher level
Speaker 1: than Cooper Cup did. And so some of that is,
Speaker 1: you know, when we saw Cooper Cup do it. Now
Speaker 1: we're saying Pooka do it. Stafford and McVeigh get some
Speaker 1: of the credit. But Puk is an unbelievable player. He
Speaker 1: is really an unbelievable player, and he's certainly demons has
Speaker 1: to be in your top five. Certainly. I still think
Speaker 1: Jefferson is the best receiver in football, but man, Pouk
Speaker 1: is an unbelievable player.
Speaker 2: He does an unbelievable It seems like a solid teammate
Speaker 2: as well. I mean, oh yeah, Jefferson as well. But
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, but he doesn't. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 2: he has the.
Speaker 1: Like wide receiver curse. But it also helps that he
Speaker 1: gets fifteen targets a game. I think all these series
Speaker 1: will be pretty happy with you know what I mean
Speaker 1: with with those types of targets. All right, let's talk
Speaker 1: Houston Baltimore.
Speaker 2: So I banged up Ravens are playing the lowly Texans.
Speaker 2: These guys are both one and three. Who's this a
Speaker 2: big game for? That means?
Speaker 1: All right? So first of all, let me say that
Speaker 1: I think there is a chance lamars Uh rap Aboard
Speaker 1: seemed to open the door to it. The only person
Speaker 1: to slam the door shut on it was a Baltimore
Speaker 1: Sun reporter, so I think there's a chance he plays.
Speaker 1: I also think even if he doesn't play, Demonse, you
Speaker 1: guys could win like Houston. If Houston's offense has been
Speaker 1: dreadful for fifteen of the sixteen quarters this year, fourth
Speaker 1: quarter against Tennessee they started scoring, but that game was
Speaker 1: six nothing, six nothing, either late in the third or
Speaker 1: going into the fourth, and then Houston rolled up some touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Now maybe that's some momentum. Maybe, Like I said at
Speaker 1: the top of the show, they were working through things,
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, all that, but they have looked shaky.
Speaker 1: So I think the game is more important for the
Speaker 1: Texans because of this. If they lose, they're just flat
Speaker 1: bad if you especially if you can't beat the Ravens.
Speaker 1: When going into this game, unlike the Chiefs game, Chiefs game,
Speaker 1: they went in without force defensive starters. This game, they'd
Speaker 1: be going in without seven and no Lamar. Then who
Speaker 1: the hell you beating? You can't beat a team who's
Speaker 1: got a terrible defense and their MVP quarterbacks out, then
Speaker 1: where other than the Titans? Like, who are you beating?
Speaker 1: I also one of the reasons that I am, you know,
Speaker 1: not going to abandon the Ravens even if they lose.
Speaker 1: Is I don't fully trust the Steelers yet, and I
Speaker 1: still think the Steelers could have a four game losing
Speaker 1: streak in them and open that division up. So and
Speaker 1: I do believe that when Lamar's out there, the Ravens
Speaker 1: have one of the best offenses in the league during
Speaker 1: the regular season, and I think they will continue to so.
Speaker 1: But the more disappointing start to the season is Baltimore.
Speaker 1: The more trouble for either team is Houston. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, if Lamar loses, if Lamar misses the
Speaker 1: next two weeks, yeah, because they have the Texans, the Rams,
Speaker 1: and then the bye and they are one in five.
Speaker 1: If he misses and they lose, do you think it's
Speaker 1: that's a rap for them or go ahead?
Speaker 2: Or it's pretty close. I mean I think it's close.
Speaker 2: I do like the Steelers being the top dogs right now, though,
Speaker 2: because I have no faith in Ar. I watch a
Speaker 2: lot of his Like when things are going good, he
Speaker 2: loves it, but the second one thing goes bad, I mean,
Speaker 2: just like a receiver missing something, he's pissed. So if
Speaker 2: they start losing the game. If they lose two games
Speaker 2: in a row one game, I think it's just gonna
Speaker 2: stack on top of it, on top of itself.
Speaker 1: I also, so I tend to agree with you here's
Speaker 1: but let's just say they're one in five, If the
Speaker 1: Ravens are one and five, that the division's out of reach,
Speaker 1: and let's just do a play. Yeah, so the Bills
Speaker 1: are going to be in under this scenario, we're saying,
Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to be in. We're gonna put
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Chargers in. Okay, And obviously let's
Speaker 1: just say the Colts keep doing what they're doing and
Speaker 1: they're in those five teams. Did I leave Bills, Steelers, Yeah, Chiefs,
Speaker 1: Chargers Okay. So that will then leave two playoff spots.
Speaker 1: The Jags, the Patriots, the Broncos would be the leading contenders.
Speaker 1: Do we think the Ravens could run two of those
Speaker 1: teams down even at starting one in five if Lamar
Speaker 1: comes back from the bye fully healthy. My answer to
Speaker 1: that is yeah, I think they could. Like I would
Speaker 1: not right off Baltimore because like.
Speaker 2: As Well, softens up a lot after the Rams, so
Speaker 2: to speak.
Speaker 1: Well, it's really interesting. The So I think they have
Speaker 1: a brutal December, but a very soft ento October November.
Speaker 1: So if you're the Ravens again, if we just play
Speaker 1: this out and I think they are going to win
Speaker 1: this weekend, Okay, so this at two and four, I
Speaker 1: think they'd be fine. But if they're one in five,
Speaker 1: you are after the bye home for Chicago, at Miami,
Speaker 1: at Minnesota, at Cleveland, home for the Jets, home for
Speaker 1: Senci Baltimore. Absolutely, if Lamar comes back healthy, can go
Speaker 1: six and zero in that stretch. Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets, Bengals.
Speaker 1: I know that the defense has been bad, but the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks being Caleb who I think is good, then Tua,
Speaker 1: whoever's starting for Minnesota, whoever starting for Cleveland, justin Field's
Speaker 1: Jake Browning, you should be able to go six and up.
Speaker 1: If you could do that at one in five, you'd
Speaker 1: be seven and five going into what I think is
Speaker 1: a brutal final five games home for Pittsburgh, who gives
Speaker 1: you trouble year at Cincinnati, not terrible home for New England,
Speaker 1: tough at green Bay at Pittsburgh. If you get to
Speaker 1: seven and five, you probably just have to go three
Speaker 1: and two in those final five to get to your
Speaker 1: ten wins and sneak into the playoffs. Yeah, and potentially
Speaker 1: you know, have the head to head tie breaker with
Speaker 1: New England like that game December twenty first against New
Speaker 1: England could be a huge one. Obviously, the Steeler games
Speaker 1: are so I won't point that I'm making as this.
Speaker 1: Even if they go one and five, I won't write
Speaker 1: them off. And if they go two and four, I
Speaker 1: think they'll be fine. Obviously they will need Lamar to
Speaker 1: be full on Lamar, but Lamar was utterly sensation through
Speaker 1: the first three games of the year, like I do.
Speaker 1: The bright side to my take being it's all in
Speaker 1: Lamar's head that he's just not like a playoffer against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs type of performer is. It's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's in a slump like I think the moment he
Speaker 1: gets back, he's just kicking ass again. Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 1: on baseball before we get to the questions from Tuesday
Speaker 1: that we didn't get to, and also reminder everybody we
Speaker 1: do have the gambling show coming out Friday morning with
Speaker 1: our picks. Go ahead, pal uh So.
Speaker 2: The MLB playoffs are underway. The Yankees sign up to
Speaker 2: this series with the Red Sox, the Dodgers advanced, and
Speaker 2: two more wildcard series will wrap up today. What do
Speaker 2: you have your eye on in this baseball postseason?
Speaker 1: Listen? I hope the Yankees win because I want to
Speaker 1: be able to maybe do some shows from Yankee Stadium again.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. That was a great Yankee
Speaker 1: win last night, and Jazz Chisholm, who was not happy
Speaker 1: with his usage in Game one, saved the game for him.
Speaker 1: He made an unbelievable diving stop at second base late
Speaker 1: in the game and then scored from first the winning run,
Speaker 1: so that you know, I am rooting for the Yankees tonight.
Speaker 1: The pitching matchup for the Yankees tonight is the of
Speaker 1: Schlitzler on the mound, and the Socks have Connelly early
Speaker 1: on the mound. The Yankees are a slight favorite. The
Speaker 1: Dodgers annihilated the Reds. That's good for baseball. Sorry for Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: but that's good for baseball. That's exciting. Tigers guardians, I am.
Speaker 1: I don't know who I'm rooting for, because the Tigers
Speaker 1: kind of deserve to just have this whole thing fall
Speaker 1: apart on them because they've had such a his story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fourteen game lead and then Cleveland ended up winning the division.
Speaker 1: I that game's a coin flip to me. And then
Speaker 1: Padres Cubs. It's better for baseball in theory for the
Speaker 1: brand of the Cubs, but the Padres have so many
Speaker 1: stars and you Darvish on the Mountain, and the Padres
Speaker 1: were my preseason pick to you know, make the World
Speaker 1: Series out of the NL. I would be rooting for
Speaker 1: the Padres either way. We're gonna have sick Divisional round
Speaker 1: because we are. We're going to get Dodgers Phillies in
Speaker 1: the NL, which is unbelievable. And then the Brewers are
Speaker 1: waiting for either the Padres or the Cubs, and in
Speaker 1: the AL we're getting either Blue Jays Yankees or Blue
Speaker 1: Jay's Red Sox, a nice Al East battle, and then
Speaker 1: the Mariners waiting for the Tigers of the Guardians. Kind
Speaker 1: of feels like Mariners Guardians would be awesome because they
Speaker 1: both finished the year so red hot and Blue Jays Yanks.
Speaker 1: So you know what, No, I'm not gonna bet it
Speaker 1: because I haven't studied any of this, but I am
Speaker 1: going to go ahead and say I am rooting for
Speaker 1: the Guardians over the Tigers, the Yankees over the Red Sox,
Speaker 1: and the Padres over the Cubs. Uh. So we get Brewers, Padres, Dodgers,
Speaker 1: Phillies already locked, Blue Jays Yankees, and Mariners Guardians. That's
Speaker 1: that's what I'm pulling for, all right, Demanse, Let's get
Speaker 1: to some of these questions before we get to our
Speaker 1: gambling show, which will come out tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So everybody in the chat on Tuesday was asking about
Speaker 2: how the Ryder Cup went.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed going. I had a great time. I
Speaker 1: don't want to spend two more time on it. Eagle
Speaker 1: fans are out of their mind. They're out of their mind.
Speaker 1: And the I I actually had to I should I
Speaker 1: tell this story? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Whatever? Who cares?
Speaker 1: So I was just getting I was getting the Rory
Speaker 1: mcelroyd treatment from Eagle fans the whole day. And these
Speaker 1: are just like drunk finance guys in golf shirts and
Speaker 1: so whatever. Fine, late in the day's Saturday, I'm walking
Speaker 1: to find hubs because I went with Danny and Hubbs,
Speaker 1: and there's a long line of people trying to get
Speaker 1: beer and I'm about forty feet from it. And again
Speaker 1: we're at a golf tournament. Man, and I hear, hey,
Speaker 1: nick right few but they didn't say f and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, not okay? And I and I could
Speaker 1: see who it was deep in the beer line, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're gonna go have a chat. And so
Speaker 1: I'm I walked. I started walking his way, and his
Speaker 1: friends were like tap or whatever. But again, demons, this
Speaker 1: guy is not your age. This guy is my age.
Speaker 1: And uh. And I walk over to him and I
Speaker 1: do what I always do in these situations, which is
Speaker 1: I clasp my hands behind my back, like because I'm
Speaker 1: like this guy's drunk and like whatever, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want him to think like I'm coming over there to
Speaker 1: like fight, but you're gonna have no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I was not. And as soon as I get within
Speaker 1: ten feet he does one of these. He's like, hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I actually like the show. I'm just and
Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm like, no, no, He's like what.
Speaker 1: I'm like, buddy, we're adults at a golf tournament. Not cool.
Speaker 1: And his friends were like, yeah, man, sorry, and he's
Speaker 1: like he's like and so he tries to shake my hand.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not shaking your hand, man, but I
Speaker 1: also am gonna need an apology, and and he's like
Speaker 1: and he's like what. And his friends, who were mortified,
Speaker 1: were like, hey man, just apologic. And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to need an apology. And at this point, again,
Speaker 1: it's like a three hundred person beer line, right, everybody's
Speaker 1: looking and he's like, he's like, I'm sorry, man, I'm
Speaker 1: like thank you, And then he tried to shake my
Speaker 1: hand again. I'm like, I'm not shaking your bleep in
Speaker 1: hand and then went and found Hubes. I couldn't take
Speaker 1: it anymore. A great time in the Ryder Cup. But
Speaker 1: I just didn't come on man like, buddy, you work
Speaker 1: it at you trade stocks for a living or something,
Speaker 1: trying to be Tommy tough guy at a golf tournament
Speaker 1: wearing khakis in a Polo Ryder Cup shirt.
Speaker 2: All right, next, man, he's sorry, He's sorry? Uh dead ass?
Speaker 2: Is the tattoo real? Nick?
Speaker 1: The never a doubt tattoo that I never know how
Speaker 1: to show on camera. I still haven't figured it out.
Speaker 1: See that that tattoo is real. The tackle Tide tattoo
Speaker 1: was temporary. That was a I will tell a story
Speaker 1: about that though. I went to the tattoo shop to
Speaker 1: get them to do the stencil yeah, and then draw
Speaker 1: it on for the bit for the show that The
Speaker 1: lady there was like, yeah, I can do it, but
Speaker 1: I just have to charge you the same price as
Speaker 1: if I gave you the actual tattoo.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2: So the stencil am I am? I tripping? Isn't the
Speaker 2: like print it out and then you put it on
Speaker 2: your arm you like, it's like basically like one of
Speaker 2: those things you'd put a quarter in a machine to
Speaker 2: get a little thing.
Speaker 1: And then she got a sharpie and drew on the
Speaker 1: stencil and it was one hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: I would have drawn it on myself.
Speaker 1: I wanted it to look good. Also, I kind of
Speaker 1: played myself because she hadn't quoted me a price. And
Speaker 1: then I walked up to the thing to pay and
Speaker 1: I and I had a debit card and her credit card.
Speaker 1: She was like, we're cash only, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: no problem. And I again, I'm not trying to sound
Speaker 1: like a big shot, but I walk around with it
Speaker 1: because I'm a gambler. I just walk around with a
Speaker 1: lot of cash, you know, like a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I always have it on me. And so I she
Speaker 1: still hadn't told me a price, and I reach in
Speaker 1: my pocket and I just grabbed my cash and it's
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's probably two grand and hundreds and
Speaker 1: she's and I see her see it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm getting so played here now. I was like, there's
Speaker 1: no and so and so she was like, well, like,
Speaker 1: the least we're allowed to charge is one hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: and I'm like okay. I was like, then, I guess
Speaker 1: it's a hundred bucks and so yeah. And so then
Speaker 1: I'm like, so I gave her, I gave her two hundreds,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, can I just have change for
Speaker 1: this one for your tip? She's like, oh yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, we don't have a change. She
Speaker 1: was like, we don't. I can't. She's like, I don't
Speaker 1: have change. We've just opened. And I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: and I and I'm thinking she's gonna be like, but
Speaker 1: the hundred's fine, Like I'm just drawing the tackle that
Speaker 1: turned the tide.
Speaker 2: On your arm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she goes, you can zell me.
Speaker 2: Just whatever.
Speaker 1: I like, all right, whatever, she was a nice lady,
Speaker 1: so I zeld her or I've been motor fifty bucks.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so.
Speaker 1: The whatever, it was good for the bit. It's a
Speaker 1: good bit for TV. All right, let's get to some
Speaker 1: of the Thursday questions.
Speaker 2: Uh As Sean says, Nick, can you explain why nobody
Speaker 2: is dogging on Justin Herbert for losing to the Giants.
Speaker 2: I've not heard a lot about.
Speaker 1: Because people don't actually just listen. I don't think people
Speaker 1: care quite enough about Justin Herbert. I also think he
Speaker 1: had been playing quite well prior to that game. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So like now guys have a solid defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah and so, and that was more about Jackson Dart
Speaker 1: whatever it is, all right?
Speaker 2: Next, uh h J says Hi Nick, and demon's are
Speaker 2: you concerned by the already mounting number of serious injuries?
Speaker 2: Is it just me? Or is it notably bad this season?
Speaker 2: Lots of marquee players too.
Speaker 1: I actually think it's just you. I I but like
Speaker 1: I think it's the turf in met life could be
Speaker 1: a problem. But I think it's like this every year.
Speaker 1: And I think every year we're like, damn, so many
Speaker 1: guys are hurt, like it's a brutal, brutal game.
Speaker 2: Next, Eclipse asked two part question. Is Zach Taylor on
Speaker 2: the hot seat or does he get a pass for
Speaker 2: the Burro injury? And what do you think about Trey
Speaker 2: Lance to the Bengels.
Speaker 1: I mentioned Trey Lance and the Bengals off the air yesterday.
Speaker 1: I do think the Bengals should trade for either Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins or Jameis Winston. And I would like, again, let's
Speaker 1: say that Lamar misses time and they do fall to
Speaker 1: one in five, and what we're talking about the Steelers happens.
Speaker 1: You know, they like that division. They're two and two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Browning's just been brutal, just been brutal. All right.
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Speaker 1: as he's three and one on the air. My picks
Speaker 1: are right now decidedly mediocre. Haven't had a terrible week yet,
Speaker 1: haven't had a great week yet, but we keep hitting
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