WEBVTT - #67 - Chris Brickley 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:10.079 Yeah, yeah, Well we got a sports sports guy today, 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:14.520 all right, So check this out The Boulet Cam podcast 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.919 in New York City with Chris Brickley. You don't know 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.400 Chris Brickley is. Chris Brickley is an esteemed NBA trainer. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:27.600 If you're a basketball fan, this podcast is fucking flames. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.880 This dude trains everybody, Kevin Durant, James Harden, I mean, 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.800 you name it. He trains j Cole for basketball. He's 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.000 got his own fucking character in NBA two k the 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.440 biggest sports NBA trainer of all time. We sat down 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.080 with him in my hotel room pause in New York City, 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.800 had an incredible conversation. 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Man? 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.279 We're in New York City in a hotel room setting 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.160 up shot. Man. Chris Brickley is here, and thanks for 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.880 having me. I've watched so many interviews over the years, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.720 so this is kind of cool to be he It's 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.680 cool to talk to you. It's crazy because I was 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.440 already kind of hip to who you are. Were like 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.280 I would see you on like because I follow a 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.920 lot of just these hoop pages you know, but what 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:11.480 really kind of had me like dive into two years ago, right, 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.080 two three years ago? It was a while ago. Yeah, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.640 and and your come up man was so like inspirational 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.040 for people because you were you was it you were 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.919 homeless for a second or was it? Like because I 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.440 think I remember, like, I mean, it's been since then 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:27.760 since it came out that I remember watching it, but 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.800 I remember like just hearing about like how you got 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.120 like you were going to college, right, yep, give us 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.519 give kind of refresh on your come up man. Yes. 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.440 So you know, I grew up in New Hampshire, small 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.880 in New Hampshire. You ever been in New Hampshire? I 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.000 might have? No, No, I haven't. Yeah. Yeah, So grew 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.480 up in New Hampshire. Uh. You know, I played basketball, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.840 was really good, top one hundred in the country, and 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.040 then ended up going to Louisville as a walk on. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.080 So I played a little bit. But I know I 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.880 wasn't going to the NBA coach. Patino's the coach I 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.440 was gonna ask that Patino years Yeah, okay, so he 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.119 has a huge coaching tree, so I'm like, I'm gonna 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.400 gett into coaching. So you know, I was the youngest 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.520 Division one assistant coach in the country. You know, I 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.960 did the coaching thing. Uh was with the Knicks player 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:16.399 development youngest NBA player development brist coach. No. So once 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.480 I left louisvill I was a j O miss That 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.919 was my first stop. Then I was the youngest Division 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.640 one assistant coach in the country. I fairly Dickinson, New Jersey, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.239 and then I lay in the NIXT job. I was 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.320 the youngest player development director. But like all these jobs, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.560 like in coaching, you don't make money like that. You know, 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.080 even when I was with the Knicks, you make like 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.400 sixty thousand. You live in New York. You cut that 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.600 in half. That's yeah. So you know I did that 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.960 for like four years, built a bunch of relationships, and 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.280 then I, uh, I was like, you know what, I'm 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.320 gonna start my own business. But I didn't really know 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.960 exactly like how I was gonna do it. And then 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.320 that summer was I think the summer you're talking about. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.840 I you know, I went through a little period where 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.320 I didn't I didn't have a place to stay, so 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.280 I was just like maxed out all my credit cards. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:00.720 It was bad. I was like I muldn't have left 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.320 the next because I had two more years left in 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.880 the contract. Believe in myself though, and it's worked out. Yeah, 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.000 a lot of people wouldn't have voluntarily left the job 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:14.200 with the Knicks. Not for sure. My family wasn't happy. Yeah, 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.359 So talk about that summer and you leave. What was 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.839 like the you know, because anytime I feel like anyone 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.200 ever takes a chance on themselves, there's a breaking point 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.159 where you're like, damn, did I make a mistake or 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.880 you know, before things start going the right way. What 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.600 was that low point for you during that period? Yeah? So, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.760 you know, so I left because me and Kamala Anthony 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.520 were super close. So I'm like, all right, So the 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.279 last four summers, I'd meet Lebron, I met Katie, I 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.800 met James, I met Ross, so I kind of knew him. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.799 I didn't have relationships with them, but I knew him. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:45.800 So I'm like, God, if I leave the Knicks, I 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.960 think I could like start a training business. Uh. You know, 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:50.839 So I left the job as health insurance. You know, 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.719 it's the whole You're leaving a job, a good job. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.720 So I left, and then I'm thinking, like right off 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.120 the bat, I'm gonna be able to Lebron's is gonna 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.359 come to my gym and k and didn't work like 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.200 that right after bat. You know, it took a minute. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.760 It took a little bit, and uh so you know, 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.440 I think, like a few months in middle of the summer, 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.560 I'm like, damn, I don't know if I made the 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.159 right decision, Like I really don't know if I wasn't 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.520 making any money. Uh it was, it was. It was 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.880 a struggle. And then that was when I came up 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.800 with Black Ops and I started doing these five on 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.480 five games, and then that kind of like changed my life. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.960 I you know, put together these pickup games that arguably, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.279 you know, some of the greatest pickup games ever. Yeah, 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.200 get kind of let me know what like with the 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.720 Black Ops thing, with the five or five pickup games 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.800 kind of good. So Black Ops is like my business. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.360 I work up elead NBA guys and I do these 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.599 five on five runs in the summer. So Lebron comes through, Katie. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.839 You know, I've had like twenty five All Stars. I've 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.960 had uh the last seven m vps. Like everyone comes 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:53.320 through and it's exclusive. It's dope. Media. The media loves 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.040 it and Uh yeah, so yeah, so I guess that's 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.359 kind of a for people who don't know you're the 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.000 you were like the IT trainer in basketball, you know 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.080 what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean I guess I guess 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:07.880 it's you know, as you know, when you're in it, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.880 you don't think that, but for sure, Yeah, I think 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.600 what some people don't understand is like if you're Lebron, 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.880 if you're Mellow, because I always remember seeing Melow was 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.479 in with you heavy when he wasn't like back in 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.000 the league yet you know, and you have you know, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.640 especially if you're on an NBA roster, right, Like there's 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.479 coaches on those rosters. You were one of them, right, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.520 why go to you? Yeah, I mean that's that's a 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.320 good question. You know, I study the game. I just 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.120 I know the game and I know how to understand people. 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:46.760 I know what motivates James and I know what motivates Mellow, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.040 and you know, you need to figure that out. Otherwise 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:50.680 they're not going to talk to you. You could, you 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.440 could try to coach them. It's gonna go in one 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.120 area out the other. So you need to build a 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.160 relationship with them. You need to study the game and uh, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:58.680 you know at this point, now I have like such 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.920 a big name within basketball, I can almost like work 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:04.839 with who I want, which is like a super blessing. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.840 I try and like super thankful because just three years ago, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.640 I was hoping I could get just three guys a 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.560 day type stuff. So life's really changed. It's a and 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.840 then you know, it's the first train ever to be 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.880 an NBA two K. So I'm my own character, yep, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.800 first trainers, not a sneaker deal, just doing things that 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.200 trainers have never done. Just trying to like inspire kids 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.120 that if you don't make the NBA, you could be 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:31.280 like me. Yeah, cause you know, I think like people 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.640 don't understand like the full grind of getting to the NBA, 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.160 like just because you didn't make it to the league. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.760 And you know, we think about this with coaches too, right, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.000 Like a lot of coaches like may not have even 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.000 been great in the NBA, you know what I mean. Sure, 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:50.480 but that doesn't mean that you don't know the game. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.480 That doesn't mean that you don't know like the technique, 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.960 you know what I'm saying. Like for the disconnect, for 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.640 people who are watching this, they're like, yo, why why 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.880 the fuck would Lebron, James go train with this white boy, 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.120 like you know what I mean, like talk about the 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:02.880 skill set that you bring to the table, Like, what 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.040 are you helping these guys work on? Yeah, so I 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.800 guess one of my specialties is so you know, Mellow 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.480 has great footwork, right, So when I was with the Knicks, 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.960 I started learning this footwork and then guys would come 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:14.800 to me being like, I want some of Mellow's foot work. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.400 So got Kawhi, Leonard, got Katie, I got you know. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.360 So I specialized like in that mid post area just 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.200 with like footwork moves, and then you know, working with James, 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.840 I kind of learned a whole another. So when you 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.920 work with like these super superstars, I'm learning from them 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.199 and they're learning from me. It's like a two way street. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.240 So then when I work with like the regular NBA guy, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.520 I have so much knowledge that I can it really helps. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.480 But with the superstars, we're both learning from each other. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.760 With James Harden, like, he's somebody who I've been following 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:49.679 since college when he was at ASU, and I love 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.719 watching James hard and play. Now there's some people who 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.000 hate watching James Harden. I would say that he's probably 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.880 one of the most polarizing guys in the league. It's 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.959 like him and Westbrook for sure. Like when you want 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.440 the sports TV shows, they either love him or they 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.800 hate him. It's actually changed the game, like just the 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.360 way he plays off the bounce, you know. So so 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.720 what the haters say, Oh, you know, he dribbles too much, 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:15.720 he travels, he you know, but really he's he's been 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:20.720 extremely creative and uh, he's kind of revolutionizing the game 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.520 as far as having to playoff the bounce. No one 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.760 can stop him. Well, yeah, that that that step back 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.360 is something that everyone mimics now exactly. Yeah, was that 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.480 something that like you would notice when you were like 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.880 training with him or you'd be like, like, did you 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.400 like help him fine tune that a bit? Not so. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.800 So what he's big on in the workouts is he 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.560 likes to He's like, all right, Chris, just throw me 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.199 like he wants me to give him like super hard moves, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.040 like like instead of doing working on one move, it 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.640 will be like four moves at once. So he his 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.040 his big thing is like, just try and challenge me 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:53.840 as much as possible with the ball. So once the 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.199 game comes and one man in front of me, doing 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:00.000 one move is easy. So you know, I think James 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.120 could be m VP in my opinion this year. Yeah. Yeah, 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.480 well listen man, oh and b got injured and I 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:10.080 think he was probably the favorite Lebron's out. He was 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.960 probably the second guy. Yeah, and I think now it's 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:17.640 either Harden or Jokic. Yeah yeah, Yokic is nice. Jokic 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.600 is a beast. Yeah. Or you know, if they'll stop 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.000 hating on my Phoenix suns, you know, give Chris Paul 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:25.679 and Devin Booker a look, is what I'm saying. You're 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.120 playing good. They are, man, they are good. Yeah. Out 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.520 of everybody you've trained, Like, who would you consider to 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.880 be like your closest friend, Like someone who like you know, 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.400 because some people you know, you work with them, their associates. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.400 It's all love. But like when the training stops, it's 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.559 like see you next time. Then you have friends, you 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.640 know what I mean. Yeah, I would have to say 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.720 it's like a mix. I would say, you know Mello, Donovan, Mitchell, Dangelo, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:55.280 Russell j R. Smith. I would say those guys with Mellow, 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.400 you were training with him a lot. A lot of 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.680 videos were like coming up on my timeline. When he 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.080 wasn't not on a roster, when everyone was counting him 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.760 out for sure, and that was obviously a huge mistake. 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.880 Yeah it was. Man. I won the Breakfast Club one 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:13.160 time and I said, I think Mellow. This is when 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.280 he wasn't an NBA. I said, I think that Melo's 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.880 better than sixty percent of the NBA right now. The 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:22.120 media like destroyed me. I thought I was canceled, And 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.720 four months later, this guy's starting in the NBA, which 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.599 means if you're an NBA starter, you're better at sixty 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.400 So it's funny how the media works. Mello's back year eighteen. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.760 He's playing great this year. Yeah, man, I think like 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.000 that just shows you, like with Mellow, like this guy's 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.520 one of the most prolific scores in NBA history, sure, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.200 top ten. Yeah, it's and like he never had any 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.560 like crazy injuries or anything. I think people just like 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.680 just thought like the league had moved past what he does, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.679 and it's like that's not. He just ended up in 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.800 shitty situations with Oklahoma City and Houston, like Mike D'Antoni 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.000 did not fuck with him, you know what I mean. Like, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.480 so I'm glad he got that second chance. What do 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.680 you think is the biggest miss misconception about someone like 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:07.719 Carmelo Anthony. I personally hate it when someone's like, all right, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.720 because he didn't win a ring, then I'm gonna, you know, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.559 not give them the credit for you know, some people 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.280 are on that, and I understand to fig your legacy, 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.560 but at the end of the day, they people put 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.960 in the NBA, I think he's ninth all time score 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.120 for all time, Like he's done some amazing things, he 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.079 hasn't won a ring. Hopefully he will win a ring, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.600 but you shouldn't be judged just off a ring. Yeah, 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.680 I think, like you said, how many like when you 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.599 really break down, how many people have rings compared to 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.920 the people who have played in the league, it's insane. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.960 I even think during our era, like the last twenty years, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.319 it's been harder than ever to get a ring these 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.400 with these super teams, right Yeah, well, I mean look, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.280 even if you go back so like when the Celtics 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.720 got Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett, that was to me 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.400 the first that was like the first super team of 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.480 this era. Yeah, where it was like oh a free 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.160 agency they just got they just went and got a 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.680 big three, and then they won the ring year one. Yeah, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.720 that was the beginning of it. And then the Spurs 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.880 had a dynasty, which you know, and then of course 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.600 there was the Lakers and yeah, you know, and then 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.640 and then the Heat Yeah, and and then the Calves 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.920 and then the Warriors. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's pretty wild, man. 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.120 You also fuck with a lot of rappers, so some 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.520 of these these pickup games you'd be having are like 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.520 who's who of hip hop? Running up and down the court? 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.840 For sure? Now, the guy who I have always heard 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.160 now I've seen Quevo play Quavo, you know, obviously he 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.079 hooped for that Bleacher Report ship and did his thing. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.480 But the guy who I always hear is the best 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.880 is Coal. Yeah, hands down. So so you're saying Cole 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.440 at all the hip hop artist rappers, it's J Cole. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.800 J Cole is the best. So uh yeah. So you know, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.679 before COVID, we worked for like six seven straight months, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.200 meaning J Cole just working on his shot, working. You know, 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.040 he would religiously, I think you go to the studio 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.280 during the day and at night we would work out 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.640 like every night, and then he start playing in the 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.960 Black Ops NBA runs. I'd be nine very good NBA 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.200 players and he'd be on the court and he was 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:10.120 playing really good. And uh, now he can really hoop. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:11.680 It's not even close as far as like that's some 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.680 good rappers that are good. But he could like hang 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.880 with it what overseas right now he could. Yeah, he's 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.800 he's worked on it and he's good. Yeah. When someone 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.680 puts that much time and effort, like you said, for 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.760 like for hover many months, they must be serious about 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.440 trying to get better at basketball. There's been rumors that 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.240 he might be trying to make a run to get 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.040 in the league. Is that something that he's got that 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.480 that you know that like might be maybe on his 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.320 goal list? Yeah, I can't speak for him. Maybe, I 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.320 guess we'll see. I mean the Pistons, man, you know, 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.400 we'll see they could get I think there's a few 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.440 teams that could literally use anybody, and the Pistons are 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.520 one of them. Yeah. No, I wouldn't be surprised if 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.520 it happens, but it hasn't happened since master P. He's 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.280 better than master P. He's best. I've seen the clips. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.720 I've seen master P clips has Is he better than 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.600 any NBA players you've trained. You don't got to tell 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.880 me who, No, so I would say, so, let's be honest. 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.440 So if he were to be a pro, he'd be 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.760 a shooter. Right. He's a better shooter than some of 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.880 the guys for sure, for sure, So he'd be a 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.760 spot up shooter. He'd be a shooter JJ Reddick, Yeah, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.840 he'd be that type of except JJ Reddick was really 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.640 good with moving out the ball. I think he'd just 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.280 be more of like a spot up shooter. Cole would 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.240 be the he would be the I'm trying to think 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.000 who else he'd be the Kyle corverd in the corner 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.000 he had He had six seven game winners in the 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.000 black ops games and like the NBA guys would be 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.080 so pissed like every time he'd do it because they 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.760 were really trying and he'd be hitting game winners his 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:40.240 ice in his veins. Wow, that's crazy with with with 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:45.360 basketball right now. There's obviously COVID has been happening this 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.040 last season and this season. Has the COVID shit like 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.960 affected your business at all? Like players like what kind 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.120 of protocols they got to go through to do outside training? 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.920 And sure for sure this pass offseason wasn't regular, Like 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.040 I couldn't do as many works I want. I couldn't 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.120 do the five on five runs. But you know, thank 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.640 God to just everything that's you know, signing these deals. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.160 I've been I've been blessed to over this COVID period 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.800 to stay with body armor and lids and stock X 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.360 and so I've been I'm I'm thankful. Break down some 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.200 of these deals you're talking about. Man, you just ran 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.360 through some big brands. I mean it's uh, it's you know, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.600 shut out my manager, Alex. Alex Cobland's kind of changed 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.920 my life. But yeah, no, it's uh, it's crazy. Sometimes 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.000 I've been getting these deals and uh, you know, we'll 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.440 be on the phone and they'll be like, you just 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.520 got this deal over these three NBA guys, and I'm like, damn, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.560 I'm like getting these deals and NBA guys. It's crazy 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.080 to me. Still, is like you're getting deals that like 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.640 that they over them, so essentially, instead of them getting 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.680 the deal, you got the deal as the trainer. Yeah. Yeah, 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.560 and uh, which is which is really cool. That was 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.800 never the goal though, but it just it's just happened 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.240 like that. You know, I've had my own bowl at Chipotle. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.640 That was cool. So you can go to Chipotle across 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.000 the country and get the Chris Rickley Bowl. That was fire. 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.720 I had a stock x deal Lids deal. When you 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.000 say you have a Lids deal, they give your own 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.879 hat or like what is I designed like two hats 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.800 that come out across the world. So I own color Blind. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.200 It's like a clothing company. So you know, we made 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.840 some hats with them. I'm in the NBA. Two k's 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:18.200 designed to deal with body armor, which is cool. We 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:24.639 had stock x h Wilson, so I actually have my 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.040 own like training balls with Wilson, which is fire. I mean, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:32.320 got his own basketballs. Yeah, it's dope. That's crazy. That 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.560 is crazy with the next generation because you know, there's 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.160 always I'll be around Ethica a lot in Orange County 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:44.280 and they always have at their location, they always have 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.120 all these high school kids. It looks like a warehouse, 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.960 right but the yeah, yeah, so there's always like all 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.679 the young high school kids always there, you know, and 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.159 some guys trained there as well. You know. But but 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.639 I know that with AAU and just kind of the 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.639 way the game has been, I mean it's been a 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.440 while since since the AAU should have kind of taken over, 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.240 Like we kind of already kind of know who's probably 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.360 gonna be like the next it dudes in the league, 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.280 you know, as long as they don't fuck up. Do 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.399 you work with a lot of those, like like the 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.040 younger kids, whether they're highchool kids or like kids in college. 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.840 That's actually my number one focus, Like I don't you know, 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.600 I don't. You wouldn't know by my social media, but 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.040 like my number one thing is getting like the number 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.200 one eighth grader in the country, ninth grade or tenth grader, 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.280 eleventh grade, twelfth grader, So then I build that relationship. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.520 So then when this they become players, we have that relationship. 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.440 So yeah, I'm big on that. I'm huge on that. Yeah. 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.720 I think, like I just saw I think Slam just 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.600 had like three or four variant covers with like all 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.800 kids in high school. Yeah, and I was like, oh shit, 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.679 some of these kids are huge. Mikey Williams, some of 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.720 these kids have like five six million followers, they're like 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.040 sophomores in high school. Yep. Yeah. I think the first 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:56.679 guy I kind of noticed like that was like that 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.200 was when when he was in high school was Zion. Yeah, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.159 I was like, yo, this, I was looking at his 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:05.600 highlights in high school ball. Isn't that? You know? La Melow? Yeah, 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:07.760 you know it's crazy were talking about LaMelo because I 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.320 think LaMelo is somebody who there were so many doubts. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:11.879 And I don't know if you ever worked with him, 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.879 but I'm sure as a fan you watched probably some 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.720 of his tape. Did you have an idea that he 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.280 would be as fire as he is in the lag 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.800