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Speaker 1: Chris Brickley live from New York City. Got to sit

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Speaker 1: It's the Bootleg Cap Podcast. Are your Bootleg Cap podcast? Man?

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Speaker 1: We're in New York City in a hotel room setting

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Speaker 1: up shot. Man. Chris Brickley is here, and thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. I've watched so many interviews over the years,

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Speaker 1: so this is kind of cool to be he It's

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Speaker 1: cool to talk to you. It's crazy because I was

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Speaker 1: and and your come up man was so like inspirational

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Speaker 1: give kind of refresh on your come up man. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I grew up in New Hampshire, small

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Speaker 1: think is in the league that might not necessarily be

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Speaker 1: have a few, uh, And you're right. The league's all

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Speaker 1: about opportunity like that's there's guys that are and even

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Speaker 1: just being getting to the league. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys that oversees that should be in the league. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys that have a coach in the

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Speaker 1: NBA that believe in them, and maybe if they didn't,

453
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't even be in the league. The league's crazy,

454
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Speaker 1: you know, you know Manuel Quickly the Knicks, Oh yeah,

455
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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Quickly. So he's having a really good season. But

456
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Speaker 1: you know, Tibbs is like an old school coach, so

457
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Speaker 1: he's playing him like eighteen minutes a game as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: If he was playing like thirty three five minutes a game,

459
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Speaker 1: he I think he would be, you know, up there

460
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461
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Speaker 1: I feel like he doesn't get he I don't feel

462
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Speaker 1: like he's ever gotten an opportunity. Yeah, he just hasn't

463
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Speaker 1: really played many minutes. He's been injured too. I think

464
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Speaker 1: that's one give you one more. This is a good question.

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Speaker 1: I would have to say, just an better up. So

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, Right, so he's already like really good. Yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: but I feel like if he wasn't in the Celtics,

468
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Speaker 1: wasn't playing with Tatum, I feel like he could be

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Speaker 1: like m v P type good. Really yeah, he does

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Speaker 1: he does it all. That's big man, he does it all.

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Speaker 1: I mean they also have like common like like their

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Speaker 1: games are very similar, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: it's not like he's like like you know, they're they're

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Speaker 1: both wings, so there's only so much like and Tatum

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Speaker 1: gets more of the shine. So I think I think, Wow,

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Speaker 1: Jalleen Brown, you think could be m v P. Huh,

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Speaker 1: he's that good. Yeah for sure. He's trained with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not even saying that just because he's training.

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Speaker 1: He's he's a real deal. Wow, that's crazy. What about

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Speaker 1: someone who's retired that you think could still just pick

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Speaker 1: up the shoes and just just jump right into the

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Speaker 1: league and just shake shit up. It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I would have to say, says retired, right, retired yep,

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Speaker 1: not playing or even maybe Jennings retired. I mean Jenning

485
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Speaker 1: Jennings should be in the NBA. He played eight years

486
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Speaker 1: and he was good with the Bucks. You know, he

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Speaker 1: got he got the little injury, but then he came out.

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Speaker 1: I think he should be. Obviously, Jared Smith and I retired,

489
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Speaker 1: he should be in the NBA. Let me let me

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Speaker 1: give you a better one. I would have to say, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know what, give Baron Davis like B Diddy two

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Speaker 1: Y know, it's crazy you mentioned Brandon Jennings because I

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Speaker 1: feel like he's one of those players that I always think, like,

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Speaker 1: like a few of those guys, what with Ty Lawson.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like guys who are in

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Speaker 1: the league that like just some shit happened or injury

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Speaker 1: so good. Like Brandon Jens is doing this thing. Now,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, he's doing his thing. In your opinion, because

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Speaker 1: you're you're you're close to the NBA. Obviously you watch basketball.

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Speaker 1: If every expecting let's I'm asking you this question, assuming

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Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, Okay, so we're not in factoring anyone who's

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Speaker 1: injured right now. Let's say the playoffs come, everyone's healthy

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Speaker 1: at one hundred percent. Who do you got to win?

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Speaker 1: The Ring? The Nets? The Nets? Hands down, hands down,

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Speaker 1: even against the Lakers. I just don't see someone beating

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Speaker 1: good team. I just think I think the only thing

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Speaker 1: that they might have that might they might be lacking.

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Speaker 1: Is who's going to guard a D? Yeah, not for sure.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously they need to get along then you know, yeah,

519
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Speaker 1: they got to get along. Three haven't really been healthy

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Speaker 1: for the thing, they all three of them haven't played

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Speaker 1: together at once, Like I'm I think maybe it was

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Speaker 1: like six games, maybe a few games, so, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but off talent though, you you know, two guys, I

524
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Speaker 1: just don't know how you can outscore the nets, like

525
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Speaker 1: they don't even I look at it, like they don't

526
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Speaker 1: even got to play defense, Like you got to outscore them.

527
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Speaker 1: Facts like like someone's gonna be open. They always say

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Speaker 1: that Kyrie's at least and and this has been going

529
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Speaker 1: around a lot lately now that people are all all

530
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Speaker 1: hot on Kyrie again because people are shitting on Kyrie

531
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Speaker 1: for so long and I never understood it. But I've

532
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Speaker 1: never seen anybody with a better handle than Kyrie. And

533
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Speaker 1: lately the narrative of him being the most skilled player

534
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Speaker 1: of all time has been getting thrown around. Is have

535
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Speaker 1: you worked with Kyrie? I haven't, but like you watch him?

536
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Speaker 1: Is that something that like? Because he but he I

537
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Speaker 1: think I like watching his highlights in slow motion. Yeah,

538
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Speaker 1: because that you could really appreciate what Kyrie Irving does

539
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Speaker 1: when he reacts art his handle. Yeah, No, arguably you

540
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Speaker 1: you could say, like pound for pound, you know, he's

541
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Speaker 1: the most skilled player of all time. What can he do?

542
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Speaker 1: Can shoot it, he can dribble, he his good full work,

543
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Speaker 1: he finishes of the day he dunked on someone. I mean,

544
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Speaker 1: I don't know what he can't do. Yeah, it's crazy. Right,

545
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Speaker 1: Who do you think is the most slept on player

546
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Speaker 1: that you work with? Because I've seen you work with

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Speaker 1: you were working with CJ McCollum, right, Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: say c J McCollum. I think year in and year out,

549
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Speaker 1: he averages like twenty five a game, never been an

550
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Speaker 1: All Star, had a crazy year before he got injured. Yeah,

551
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Speaker 1: I think he would have been All Star this year

552
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Speaker 1: if he and he always kills in the playoffs, you know,

553
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Speaker 1: I think if he wasn't with Dame and he was

554
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Speaker 1: on another team, I he'd be All Star. Maybe I

555
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Speaker 1: could have answered that he could have been CJ. Yeah,

556
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Speaker 1: that's some real shit. Yeah he's nice. Yeah, No, I

557
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Speaker 1: think his his uh, the way he started this season

558
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Speaker 1: was like I was like, oh my god, the Blazers

559
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Speaker 1: are going to be crazy. Yeah, like if they get

560
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Speaker 1: that out of him, Like, yeah, man, you worked with

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Speaker 1: him this past offseason. Yeah, I've worked with him for

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Speaker 1: like seven So I worked with him, you know, after

563
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Speaker 1: his rookie year, after like rhetor and then so I

564
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Speaker 1: saw him sign his firste hundred million dollar deal next summer,

565
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Speaker 1: worked just as hard. Then I just seen him sign

566
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Speaker 1: a seconde hundred million dollar deal. So I've like seen

567
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Speaker 1: I've seen it the whole come up and that guy

568
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Speaker 1: works hard. Man. We would go double sessions to two

569
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Speaker 1: workouts for like four straight months. Woweah. Have you ever

570
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Speaker 1: had a player who you trained up and then they

571
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Speaker 1: got that big deal and they kind of threw you

572
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Speaker 1: a little bonus like, hey, yeah, I appreciate you, bro,

573
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Speaker 1: here this this for you. Yeah. A few guys for sure.

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Speaker 1: I never asked either though, but yeah, a few guys

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Speaker 1: Like can you tell us who I've looked out? Nah,

576
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do that, but you know I've

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Speaker 1: someone about your bands? Yeah, I got you know, I

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Speaker 1: have a rolex a bunch of jewelry that's like their

580
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Speaker 1: favorite thing on a budget. Yeah, you know, it's about

581
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Speaker 1: your fucking car. Yeah, Jesus, But that was like years

582
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Speaker 1: and years of grinding and they got you know, they

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Speaker 1: I thank you, thanks for whatever you contributed for sure.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, man, is that like do you have to

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Speaker 1: pay the taxes on the car? You know, that's so

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Speaker 1: funny you said that because at the time I wasn't

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Speaker 1: last two three years. So when this happened, I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn the insurance stuff there all that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know I was that kind of like messed

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Speaker 1: me up a little bit, but you know I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I had. I had to pay the insurance and

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Speaker 1: you know, pay the regular SI beat paid the car

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Speaker 1: off completely. So wow, hey man, that's that's crazy talk about.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm a big proponent on betting on yourself, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I always tell people who are extremely talented,

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Speaker 1: like yo, you know a lot of times we look

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Speaker 1: and we look at them as like our barometer of

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Speaker 1: what success is. Same way like you with anybody who

602
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Speaker 1: would have gotten to the Knicks would have just been

603
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Speaker 1: happy to be there and would have been like, I

604
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Speaker 1: gotta grind this out as long as possible, and you

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Speaker 1: left voluntarily bet it on yourself. Just talk about how

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Speaker 1: important that is that mentality, because I feel like it

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Speaker 1: is imperative for people who are talented and hungry to

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Speaker 1: realize that success is not you know, it's not what

609
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Speaker 1: it's not always what you think it is, like you

610
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, facts, man, I think it's huge.

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Speaker 1: I think that's just so many things that come with

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Speaker 1: betting on yourself. Like I feel like people that you know, also,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that say they've been on themselves,

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Speaker 1: but you can tell by their actions that they really don't.

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Speaker 1: I think when you are really believe in yourself, you

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Speaker 1: have like a confidence about you and what you do,

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Speaker 1: and like that you you know, you know that, Like

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Speaker 1: I know when I I don't care who you put

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Speaker 1: on the court with me, and I know then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get him better. I know I'm gonna study his

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Speaker 1: game and figure it out. So it kind of gives

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Speaker 1: you like this confidence. And I feel like in life,

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Speaker 1: People can see that and it's just not going to

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Speaker 1: work out. So just believing in yourself as everything, and

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Speaker 1: you only need one person to believe in you too.

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Speaker 1: Like that's another thing. You know, as you're coming up,

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Speaker 1: and wanted to give me that job, and then you

632
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Speaker 1: make the best of it, you know. So I think

633
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: we live in a society where people like Instagram and

634
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: all that, we're trying to win over everybody. It's impossible.

635
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: That's you know. I think it's just just focusing on

636
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: just being the best you and someone along the way

637
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: is gonna see that and give you an opportunity. When

638
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: you get the opportunity, you need to be ready. You

639
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: talked about studying people's games right and helping them, Like,

640
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm confident I could I could study someone's game. And

641
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: what is something that specifically you've done for a player

642
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: where you were like, hey, I've watched a bunch of tape.

643
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: We just like we just started working together, we've been

644
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: working together. I can help fix this, So I guess, like,

645
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: so with Donovan Mitchell, this is like I worked with

646
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: him for a number off seasons, but every offseason we

647
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: have like a new goal and so you know, I'm

648
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: gonna get technical on you. So he's really good at

649
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: dribbling left and shooting. Yeah, and when he dribbled right

650
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: and pulled up, his percentage is way lower. So we

651
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: worked on him just the whole summer, just working on

652
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: picking the ball from the right and shooting, and his

653
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: like shooting percentage went really high. I think CG. McCollum.

654
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: We worked really hard one summer he got he got

655
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, most improved player. That was cool. There's been

656
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: a few times where we've worked on specific stuff and

657
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, every off season every player. I'm not just

658
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: out there like people think, oh, he's just throwing him

659
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: through drills, Like, no, we're working on stuff specific things. Yeah.

660
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think like the main thing that like

661
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: from like a general and like basketball fans perspective, we

662
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: always think of like guys who like have broken shots

663
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: or can't shoot free throws, and it's like, you know,

664
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: I think someone like Donovan Mitchell is like a perfect example.

665
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: Like when he came int the league. I feel like

666
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: no one looked at him like he was a three

667
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: point shooter. He was very like you kind of thought

668
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: of them like d Wade mid range game, taking it

669
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 1: to the basket. For the last two years, he's launching

670
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 1: them things. Sure, you know what I'm saying. Sure, And like,

671
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: is that the hardest thing to do is to try

672
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: to I'm not saying you did that with Donovan, but

673
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying in general, to try to fix someone's shot. Yes,

674
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: that's the hardest thing to do, for sure, and because

675
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: so much comes with that, Like you're fixing their shot,

676
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: but then like their confidence starts to waiver, because to

677
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: fix your shot, you're going to become a worse shooter

678
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: for a little bit, and then you become a better shooter.

679
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: And guys can't handle that. So what happens is you

680
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: have your shot, you try and change it. They're like, man,

681
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: forget this, I'm going back to the mold shot because

682
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: they're not patient enough to understand that it's a process

683
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: and you become a better shooter after So that, Yeah,

684
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: that's definitely who's someone who you helped fix their form,

685
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: fix their shot. Is there anybody that you could talk

686
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: about make like tweaks. I mean an a bunch of guys.

687
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: We've made tweaks, just like little tweaks. But you know

688
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: j Cole, Yeah, if we're talking, that was like the

689
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: biggest project I've ever had to do in my life

690
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: those like three months he used to shoot up here.

691
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: We completely changed his shot and that's like the best

692
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: thing for a coach to do, change something shot. But

693
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: uh and then it works. Yeah, it works a good shooter.

694
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: Andre Drummond needs to hire you, man, that's my guy too.

695
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: We need to work. We got to work on the

696
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: free throws, man, because I'm afraid that he's not going

697
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: to see a lot of playing time in the fourth

698
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: quarter if the Lakers, you know, going to run free

699
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: the line lineability. Yeah, facts, man, what's next for you?

700
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: Because obviously, you know, you could pretty much do whatever

701
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: you want at this point, but like what is like

702
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: on your like goal list, Like how do you want

703
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: to build out the company? What are the the the

704
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: other things that you want to try to do in

705
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: the future. Man, Yeah, so I mean just keep building

706
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: out this black Ops thing, you know. Done. I look

707
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: at every summer like an album. So I've been I

708
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: left the next four years ago and take COVID out.

709
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: I've had like four like amazing albums that no one's

710
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: ever done as far as like the pickup games. So

711
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: like one off season is an album the guys. I've

712
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: worked out the guys, I've gotten better. So I want

713
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: to have fifteen more of those albums. You know, I'm

714
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: just getting started with that. And then you know, outside

715
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: of basketball, I'm doing Uh, I have an album coming out, Mike.

716
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of albums, you got an album coming out for sure.

717
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm super excited about that call Welcome to the Grind.

718
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: Remember Jock Jams back in the day, So it's gonna

719
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: be like the hip hop Jock Jams. It's gonna be,

720
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, music that you can work out to. I

721
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: want to be like the theme music for all Hoopers.

722
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: I got, you know, a little baby on it. Dirk

723
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: Meek fab mm hmm. Travis, You got Travis Scott on

724
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: the album? Yeah, Trey songs, Jesus Christ, that's a did

725
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: you have to pay? Did you have to pay any

726
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: of these people? Uh? Yeah. So I'm in like the

727
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: process of that, but I'm doing it independently. The artist

728
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be able to keep ownership of this. I

729
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, like with those like do they

730
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: do it? And then you gotta like they do it

731
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: on the string or the honest truth is actually been

732
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: the biggest stress of my life in the last few months.

733
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm so cool with all these artists that

734
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: you will go to the studio to make the song

735
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: right here, and then then you gotta deal with the

736
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: rest the label, the business, the management, the label. I

737
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: got all the songs, it's just the labels. These labels,

738
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: they don't respect me. I'm basketball I'm a basketball trainer,

739
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: so you know, just waiting on these these people at

740
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: the labels to sign off on it, to give the

741
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: clearances to you know, it's just a headache, man. But

742
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fire. The albums. I mean, funny, that's

743
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: a hell of a that's a DJ Khaled esque. That's

744
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. I'm gonna do it. That's crazy,

745
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 1: he said, Travis Scott. There ain't nobody getting no Travis

746
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: Scott features out here. Ship that's wow. What about Cole?

747
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: So you know, it's funny. That's the one guy that

748
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: I reached out to about it, and he's he's an

749
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: album mode, right, so he's like, you know, he wants

750
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: the next music that he drops, he wants it to

751
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: be So I understood that. I understood that. Is he

752
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: still actively training with you? Uh? Yeah, yes, we're still training.

753
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: I go to North Carolina like a week, so not

754
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: as much obviously as like a regular offseason. But he's

755
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: still training and he's getting his album done. Do you

756
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: think he do you think he like he has a

757
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: serious chance to make a NBA roster. I don't know.

758
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: If he keeps improving, there's a chance for sure, at

759
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: least maybe a summer league roster for sure. Summer league

760
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: for sure. It's crazy, Like the whole Summer league thing

761
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: is like it became its own thing, and that was

762
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: one of the things I really like, uh missed this

763
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: past year. Yeah, the summer league. Summer League was the

764
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: ship Man facts. That's like a fun that's fun for fans.

765
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: It's good to be back this summer. Yeah, definitely. Well,

766
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: ship you got so much shit going on, albums coming

767
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: out hopefully soon. I know how hard that is. Though.

768
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: You said a lot of big names, so you got

769
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: to talk to a lot of all the red tape

770
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: with some of the like in just in general, like

771
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: you said, it's so easy to get the record out

772
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: of the studio and get it on your phone and

773
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: in your email, but to actually drop it, for sure,

774
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot more that comes with that. Can you

775
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: see yourself ever going active coaches, coaching in the NBA

776
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: or on a college level ever? Sure. I think I

777
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: would want to be like a GM actually kind of

778
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: run a team, just with the relationships I have understand

779
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: the game. That'd be cool. I'd be an NBA assistant

780
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: coach maybe, But right now I'm making so much that

781
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: they couldn't pay me enough. I'm making more money than

782
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: pays for sure. So there would have to be something

783
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: where you were like, all right, like this is something

784
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: I want to do. Yeah, exactly, But I would love

785
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: to be like a head coach one day. A GM

786
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: would be crazy, I always because you know, we all

787
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: play two K and we always make trades. That'd be dope.

788
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: I think GM would be insane. I would like, in

789
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: your opinion, let's say you're a GM, right, pick a team.

790
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: What's a trade that you think should have happened in

791
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: the offseason that didn't happen. I think I mean the

792
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: one I think of was like, Yo, how to Kyle

793
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Lowry do not get fucking traded? He was walking back

794
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: to the locker room crying like he was like last Raptor,

795
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: saying in this like prior, you know what I'm about

796
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: this year, we just had the trade deadline passed. What

797
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: was the trade you think needed to happen? Man, Man,

798
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Uh, I don't know. I can't

799
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: even answer that. I want the Knicks to get someone else,

800
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: the Knicks to like, you know, I'm a big Knicks

801
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: that's your team. Yeah, so they're like in the playoff run,

802
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Juice Raando's an All Star. I want them to get

803
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: like another All Star caliber player. I was thinking they

804
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: might fuck around and try to get Russell Westbrook. To

805
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: be honest, they're trying to get Ceg McCollum too. They're

806
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: trying to you know, there were Devin book of rumors Roses.

807
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know about it. Leon, I'm aware.

808
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: But uh, with the two seed, bro cannot have book. Sons.

809
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: He's finally winning. Yeah, let me let me get your

810
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: opinion on the Suns. What's your opinion on what the

811
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: Sons have done this year? Playing great. I think CP

812
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: and Book are like a tough combination. I think I

813
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: like deanrew Ayton too. What do you think is missing

814
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: with Ayton? Because I think I watch Aiden and sometimes

815
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: I get frustrated because I feel like he's not as

816
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: aggressive and not as like skill set. I think like

817
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: around the rim, you know, I think the other night,

818
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: like Shaq was talking about it, he you know, he

819
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: should have just done a little lefty hook and instead

820
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: he shut and got blocked, just like little just like

821
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: have skills, No, have a lefty hook, have a righty hook,

822
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: havin up and under stuff like that. I'll pay five

823
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: percent of his training costs if we can get DeAndre

824
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: in this off season to come training with my guy too.

825
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: Seems like the sweetest dude. Yeah yeah, it seems like

826
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: a real nice dude. Man. I just like sometimes I'm like, dude,

827
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: you have to, you know, impose your will. I want

828
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: him to dunk on people and scream at them, you know,

829
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: I have like that dog and them. Yeah sure, yeah

830
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: sure yeah man. Well look go follow him on Instagram.

831
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: You got a real dope story, and congratulations on all

832
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: the success, man, Because I think that anybody can look

833
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: at what you've done. Are you ever planning on writing

834
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: a book or anything. Yeah, yeah, that's in the works

835
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: for sure. I think anybody can look at your come

836
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: up and apply it to their own lives in any

837
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: field or any you know, whatever they're doing. I appreciate that. So,

838
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, hey, it was nice to link with you,

839
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: and and hopefully we'll see you, you know, on an

840
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: NBA bench one day or not. Honestly funk that you

841
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Speaker 1: don't need that straight up like we're top, Like you

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Speaker 1: don't need that ship. You'll do that if you want to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: boom exact. Actually, thanks, appreciate you