WEBVTT - Prop Master David Glazer Meets World 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:25.000 When we recently recapped the season five episode Fraternity Row, 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:30.320 we found ourselves slightly focused on one featured background actor 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.600 used for an underdeveloped gag involving a Magnum Pi shirt. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.960 You guys remember this, Oh yeah, Mega Pie. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.400 Okay, So we assumed this guy had a bit of 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.040 a story as to why it felt so awkward, and. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.720 Guess what, we were right. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:52.080 We got an email from that background actor, one Robin Hunter, 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.120 who lives now in Canada, and Jensen asked him to 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.000 record some of his memories from that day and maybe 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.880 shed some light on the weirdness that was happening, and 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:05.400 thankfully he delivered. Here are Robin Hunter's memories of being 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:09.160 on our show, the Magnum Pie shirt, and probably why 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.679 it didn't end up making a ton of sense. 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.679 Hey, gang, I am the Magnum Pie T shirt guy, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.920 Robin Hunter. I check out the podcast from time to 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:24.440 time and started listening to the Fraternity Row episode and 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.319 it made me cringe immediately when my name was mentioned. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.560 After my work visa ran out, I moved back to Canada. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.360 I moved to Toronto and I used to use Boy 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:41.000 Meets World to pad my resume, and I hadn't really 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:45.640 thought of it much until Your Guys' podcast. It was 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.520 a lot of fun doing background when you first are 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.040 starting out, just to kind of get a feeling for 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:57.000 the business and everything. And I was fresh off my 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.640 first acting gig, dancing with Shania Twain in one of videos. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.360 If You're not in It for Love, I'm out of here. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.560 I basically just kind of act like an idiot and 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.880 got paid for it. So Fraternity Row Episode I was 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.760 picked as a feature extras. It's funny to think of 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:18.320 how excited I was at the time, because you're like, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.240 oh my god, oh maybe I'll get a line, maybe 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.520 I'll get whatever. And one thing I remember is I 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.359 had to stand incredibly awkward so that the T shirt 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:32.880 was featured and all that, and as we either did 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.200 rehearsals or we did a couple takes, somebody I don't 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.280 know who it was suggested that, oh I would just 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.720 tell him to say no, or I. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.400 Can't suggest a line or something. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.120 But I remember it was like shot down immediately, So 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.239 going from like, oh my god, yes too, Oh that's 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.200 that's terrible. And then that episode there was supposed to 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:56.080 be two T shirt gags. I watched the episode again 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.560 and I'm guessing it was a love boat T shirt, 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.760 so I imagine the same type of thing. But from 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.400 what I gather from some of the podcasts, I was 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.440 maybe a pawn in the uh Paul and Alan feud. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.360 I was waiting backstage for my cue to go on. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.680 Paul took me aside and gave me direction to do, 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.040 and you're like, oh, oh yeah, for sure. Like the 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.840 guy the Breakfast Club is is telling me what to do, 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.440 I'll do that, and so I go out and do 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.000 it and it was totally different than Alan's direction, and 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:28.920 He's like no, no, no, no no, and then he 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:29.840 tells me what to do. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:30.800 I go back. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.800 Paul's at me again, convinces me to do it his way, 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.840 and I think it happened like two or three times, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.880 and Alan was quite annoyed, and basically I was cut 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.160 from the scene, but I was pretty bummed out. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.160 You're sitting there and you're like, oh, I was. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.480 I was gonna have my big chance. Maybe the second 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.680 one I would have got a line. Who knows I 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.840 was on like some of the weird episodes. I was 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.760 on the World War II one. I may even have 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.200 a picture of me in wardrobe and like, you know, like, oh, 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:00.920 I'm dressed. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:01.360 In World War two. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.560 I remember on that episode we had to stand like 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.520 that Sabrina cat was there, and we had to stand 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.000 like completely still while the real cat went there. And 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.600 the handler had like a special spoon that had cat 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:16.880 food and a bowl. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.320 On it, and so I had to stay. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:23.360 Completely, completely still while this cat ran across the thing 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.920 for their you know, couple second shot. I don't even 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.839 know other memories. I didn't have a lot of interaction 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.679 with you guys. I wasn't one of the background kids 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.240 that were like all chatty with you, and I don't know, 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.359 it seemed like a lot of people were trying to 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.200 talk to you guys every two minutes. I do remember 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.320 Matthew Lawrence being really nice. He seemingly remembered me from 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:49.719 other episodes and would say hi. I remember Rider being 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.760 a bit intense and maybe sort of over it all, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.160 and the only really interaction I remember talking with him 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.080 and maybe a couple other people about some indie movie 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.600 that came out. A couple other memories that I have 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.120 of the show when you're in the background holding everyone's 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:09.040 telling these tall tales about how how bigger they are, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.240 or they've got this project or they've got that kind 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.120 of going on, and you know, blowing smoke a little bit. 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.400 And one girl kept saying that she was Jennifer Love 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.240 Hewitt's stand in or something like that, and she would 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.600 talk about it NonStop, and she kind of looked vaguely 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.320 like Jennifer Love HEWITTT But you didn't really notice unless 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:27.839 she didn't. If she didn't say anything, you. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:29.159 Wouldn't you wouldn't notice. 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.240 Well, while I was waiting for Paul to sabotage my 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.960 my T shirt moment, I remember looking over and I 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.440 saw this extra I saw her all done up, and 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.600 I remember thinking, oh my god. I was like, she 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.359 really does look like Jennifer Love Hewitt. I was like, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.520 I kept staring at her and like amazed at like 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.880 whoever did the transformation of her? And then she looked 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.440 at me and saw me staring, and then smiled and 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.839 said hello. And I smiled at her and said hello, 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.960 as I realized, oh my god, that is Jennifer Dward, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.880 the background performer that was rambling NonStop. So I just 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:09.200 like said hello and stopped staring at her. I have 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.919 a lot of fond memories of being slightly involved in 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:13.440 the show. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:14.760 You know, learned a lot. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.960 I still act mostly commercials. I'm a member of Extra, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.159 which is Canadian SAG. I also work a lot of 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.160 behind the scenes. Just kind of a mixed bag, especially 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.640 in Canada. You kind of have to I wish you 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.599 guys all the best and thanks for the good memories 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:31.960 for early in my career. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.520 Wow, that is so cool. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.560 First of all, he sounds just like Canadian Adam Scott. Yes, 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:44.320 that's what was going through my head. And secondly, that's 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.279 a big no no for an actor to direct. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.520 Another actor giving him no. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.000 Like what obviously not the man's passed away, not trying 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.320 to bash somebody who's not here anymore, but kind of 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.359 the nerve that was like his second episode. He's a 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:04.120 guest star. He's going against our director and directing another actor. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.800 That is very uncool. Yeah, and unfortunately this young man 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:08.479 took the brunt of it. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.200 Yes, it's funny that there were you know, two t 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.880 shirt bits, probably one where he was in Magnum Pie 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.080 and another one where he was wearing a love boat shirt. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:18.800 Well, it would have made the love Boat makes sense. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.600 I was going to say, yeah, we needed that love 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.960 boat moment because otherwise it just comes out of nowhere. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.120 It's so funny that they just decided to shelve that 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.160 logic and they were like, oh, let's go for a 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:29.360 magnum pie joke instead. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.760 Yeah, so weird, so funny. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.200 It's so cool to hear other povs, you know, like 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.000 from we were All there, we all and just to 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.120 have someone chime in and say, here's my POV. So 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.520 fun So Robin, thank you so much for reaching out 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:44.040 to Thank. 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:44.400 You, Robin. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:45.440 So cool. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.520 I don't remember Ryder being intense as a kid. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.200 I don't know what you're talking about and talking about 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:52.880 indie movies while being over the show. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.960 Wrong person, Matthew Lawrence, nice guy, never heard of it. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:01.360 Yeah, exactly. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:03.720 Wow. 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.080 Well, welcome to pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:08.920 rather strong, and I'm Wilfordell. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.600 Today we are very excited to have a special guest 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.680 with us during our rewatch. Some of the most fun 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.400 we've had involves checking out our surroundings. It's the little 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.439 items on set that sometime bring us the most nostalgia 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.600 or even the most laughs. Now, thirty years later, and 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.120 though there was a team a village even that made 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.640 sure the environment of Boy Meets World was as deep 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.520 and as smart as the show. It was prop master 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.160 David Glazer who worked on all seven seasons of Boy 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.160 Meets World and led the way the prop master in 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:57.440 film or TV is responsible for purchasing, acquiring, manufacturing, properly, placing, 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.480 and or overseeing any props needed for a production. It's 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.760 high stress, high pressure, and of very high importance. And 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.640 if our listeners have learned anything about the typical weekly 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.520 schedule of a Boy Meets World episode, things were changing constantly. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.560 So just because we needed a sad looking salad for 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.920 Foeni in the script doesn't mean it'll be in the 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.960 scene come tape day. So some of your hardest and 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.920 best work never even ends up on the screen. In 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.480 addition to the entire run of our show, David worked 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.680 on classic films like When Harry Met Sally Scrooged, and 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.120 National Treasure, while also contributing to other TV shows like 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.280 Sex and the City, Carnival, and long runs on Cold 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.360 Case and Melissa and Joey. But today we are forcing 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.240 him to sit with us and talk about what exactly 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.760 was in that red drink we were forced to drink. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.160 Take after take in the cafeteria as children. And if 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:52.280 that's the reason we're so weird. Now, welcome to Pod 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.720 meets World. The Master of the Props, David Glazer, diavu. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:00.960 Hi guys. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.040 I can already tell you're wearing a boy met jacket. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.560 Yes, I am. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:06.600 The baseball jacket. 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.920 Yes, all of my swag from all the years. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.559 That's amazing. You probably have more of it than I do. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.160 I have most, but I definitely lost. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.200 A few things. Yeah, I don't know how that happens. 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:20.160 I still have the mug. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.160 I uh, I'm drinking my coffee out of it right now. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.040 Wow, that's the one thing I don't have, the mug. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:26.800 I have everything else. 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:27.640 I don't have the mug. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.160 Oh, you geared up for us. We are so appreciative. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.760 Thank you for joining us. It would have been impossible 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.360 to recap our time on boy Meets World without talking 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.840 to you. We gave a little description in the intro, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.200 but I wanted to let you give a description of 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.080 your job for our listeners. What exactly are the responsibilities 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.040 of a prop master right? 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:53.240 Well, a prop master is responsible for anything that an 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.280 actor handles or touches. It could be anything from a 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.440 pencil to a machine gun. It includes food and food 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.920 eaten by the actors on the set. Watches such as 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.960 Michael Jacob's watch that he gave me at the end 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:07.480 of the show. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.000 Yes they still have that too. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:17.880 Yeah, And eyeglasses, wedding rings, police belts, badges, when we 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:22.920 interfaced with wardrobe and and makeup and hair all the time. 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.320 Wow, so cool. So I like thinking, that's a really 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.920 simple way of thinking about it. Anything an actor has 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.160 to touch and interact with. 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.600 But we work very closely with set deck because times 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.240 the set decoration becomes a prop, and sometimes the prop 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.840 becomes a set decoration, and we have to we have 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.079 to work closely together. And Robinson Royce, who was the 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.200 set decorator world, I mean he and I. He and 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.920 I had a great relationship which really helped a lot. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:51.199 You know. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.480 Well, then I'm going to jump right to a very 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:59.079 hot topic on our show that we segued here. We 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:03.760 have been paying attention to all of the changing images 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:09.760 above the sink in the boys apartment, all the food pictures, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.480 and we understand that this is a set deck thing. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.520 But since you mentioned set Deck, and since you mentioned 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.400 your close relationship with them, could you maybe enlighten us. 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.760 We had no memory of this going on, and then 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.040 we saw it and we were like, maybe. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.000 I have a vague memory of us talking about the food. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:27.520 It's hamburgers. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.199 What's going on? 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:30.240 What's happening? 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.520 I think sometimes it's just that they forget from season 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.280 to season what they're doing, honestly, and sometimes it's a joke. 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.760 I mean sometimes, Yeah, we have done things where we've 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.920 put things in a set just to see did anybody 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.120 notice that? You know? 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.440 And this must have been one of those, because it's 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:49.920 not changed from season to season. 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:50.880 It's week to week. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.720 There's a new picture of food, right, every episode there's 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:55.680 a new picture of food. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.800 Right. That's obviously an end joke that I actually wasn't 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:04.920 of joke by the set dressers, and maybe just a 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.679 little something so they would watch the show and get 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:08.760 a good laugh. Yeah. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.960 Well, our mystery somewhat continues. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.600 We're still on the hunt for the story about the 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.560 changing food pictures. How did you find yourself first working 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.600 in Hollywood art departments? 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.400 Well, you know, I originally wanted to be an actor 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.679 and junior high high school college, I did community theater. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.040 I even had an agent, and after about one year 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.480 I realized that I did not have the stomach for it. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.880 I didn't have that fire in my belly. And I 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.600 started at cal State Northwich. I was a theater major, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.440 and then I switched over to what they called at 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:49.280 the time radio TV film. Unfortunately, at the time, all 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.280 they taught was how to be a director. They didn't 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.640 teach you anything else. So I got out of college 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.200 and had one friend who worked in the business who 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.320 did not go to college, so he was four years 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.360 ahead of me, and he was a non union art 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.160 director prop master, and he hired me at a couple 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.320 of jobs, and from there I just made more and 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.400 more connections and I was in the non union world 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.960 for eight years, and then I finally got into the 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.360 Union in about nineteen eighty five eighty six. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.240 And so, how did you end up on Boy Meets 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:20.880 World with us? 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.640 It's a good story, you know. I had only ever 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.760 done feature films, and I had done mostly non union 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:29.920 and then when I got into the Union, I started 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.000 getting on better and better pictures. Well, my wife at 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.840 the time was really unhappy with the movie business. She 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.920 hated it. I was gone all the time I was 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.280 on the location. She said, you better find a way to 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:46.640 stay home. And coincidentally, at the time, my friends Gary 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:51.320 Ramirez and Pilar Ronaldo had done the pilot on Boy 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:55.080 Meets World, and when Pillar was asked to come and 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.640 be the prop master, she wasn't available, so she recommended 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:03.680 me to Uri Grayson and I had an interview, and 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.720 interestingly enough, you know there's there's there was. I don't 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.480 know how it is at the time, there was prejudice 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:14.080 then against people that did features versus TV, because Arlene's 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.040 opinion was, well, you know, feature people, you know they 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.520 get eight weeks to prep a show, and you know, 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.320 we've got three days, and we're not sure you'd be 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.200 fast enough. And I had to convince her that yes, 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.400 I could be resourceful and fast enough to not have 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.760 to read a script for six weeks, and she hired me, 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.520 and it was the best decision that I ever made, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.960 taking that job, and I think Arlene and I became 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:43.760 close friends, as I did with with Karen McCain. But 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.560 that's how I ended up on the show. And I 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:50.000 got to say my first few my first few rehearsals 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.480 and shows, I was really baffled because I didn't get 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.800 the sitcom format. I'd never worked on a sitcom ever. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.640 And at the time, if you remember, Mark Absen was 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.840 my assistant, he was a sitcom king at the time. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.760 So the very very first run through, you know, I 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.320 had prepped everything, but I had no idea what the 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.160 run through was. So I said to him, what what 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.720 what would you like me to do? He says, go 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:19.480 sit over there and stay out of the wa And 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.760 you know, I learned how to work on a sitcom 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.080 and that was my lesson, my baptism of fire. And 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.320 and I was a little surprised because I know that 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:32.360 the writers are really have to support their own writing 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.600 and their script, and you know, the first draft maybe 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.880 isn't the best. And all these people were laughing hysterically, 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.960 and I was at the run through, and I'm going, 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:46.160 what are they laughing at? It be funny, but it's not. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.720 Yeah, there's there's no laugh like a writer laughing at his. 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:51.480 Own joke. 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:57.760 Trying to keep it in the script, doesn't it. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:02.120 That's because the thing is, you know, after every take, 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.560 you know that we would do, the writers would all 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.960 scurry together and they'd be you know, that didn't work, 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:08.600 that didn't work. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:13.560 Yes, so funny, Okay, So for Boy Meets World. Can 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.399 you walk us through what maybe a week looked like 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.080 for you. It's obviously very fast paced. As you mentioned, 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.080 you may only have like three days of prep. There's 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.080 a lot of moving parts. So how did when did 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.560 you get the first draft of a script? And when 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.560 and how did you start prepping for your week? 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.399 If I was lucky and there was a complicated prop, 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.760 either Bob Young or David Kendall would call me a 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.320 couple of weeks ahead of time and give me. They 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.040 might give me a heads up and say, hey, we're 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:45.399 writing a script, and you know, I'm thinking of Quiz 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.080 Show where we had those brains. Yes, hey, we're thinking 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.399 we got a show coming up. You know we have 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.560 this idea or if you remember the one about the 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.160 gazillions of sprinkles falling from the sky, Yeah, yoga. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:00.280 You know. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.399 He gave me a heads up and that help. But 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:07.440 in general, mostly I would get a script on show night, 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.639 the final script. So that's why you wouldn't see me 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.560 very much on show night, because we'd be starting the 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.800 show on Friday night, I guess, and we'd start working. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:24.000 They would deliver or was it Thursday nights? Thursday nights 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.800 because the production meeting was Friday, so we'd start the 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.000 show and then as soon as the show started, they 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.960 would start distributing the script for the next episode that night. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.280 Wow the production meetings the next morning at ten am, 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.919 you know, so I would generally not be on the 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.280 set unless there was a big deal going on, and 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.520 I'd have to be going through that script so that 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.800 I could be ready at ten am with some answers 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:52.960 or questions, you know, and then Friday would come and 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.240 you know, we'd start that first read through with practically 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:00.159 no props, or we would use stand in props, just 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:04.000 stuff that we're laying around. But by Monday I was 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.880 expected to have a lot of the props, so Fridays 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:10.680 were extremely busy. I would just zoom out. I would 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.640 hit the prop houses or my printer, the manufacturers. I'd 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.000 be zooming around and try to get as much there 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.960 as possible by Monday for rehearsal, and as the days 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.719 were on, I had to get more and more of 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.200 everything and make sure it was all camera ready because 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:29.919 a lot of times, you know, you're come in with 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.480 something that was not painted and then the first question 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.520 you would get is, hey, is that going to be painted. 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:42.959 I only made it this morning. We would rush and hurry, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.240 and I'd be out shopping, and of course during rehearsals 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.080 director would come up with ideas. The actors would ask 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.440 for things, and I'd get a phone call from Mark 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.520 or one of the other assistants and say, hey, they 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.960 just asked for you know, twelve dozen, which is not 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.160 a big deal, you know, but it divert me over 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.359 to the market, you know. And or they'd ask for 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.959 something else and I'd have to or worse, they call 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.000 me up and say, hey, guess what this is cut 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.480 and I'm already making it. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.840 So wait a second, I'm sorry. I'm trying to understand this. 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.480 The props didn't just magically appear for you the way 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:20.240 they did for us. 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.600 To understand that the elves would bring them. 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.360 I mean, it's what we thought, essentially at the time. 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.880 We're so oblivious to what everybody else is doing that 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.320 we just assume they magically appeared for you as they 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:35.800 did for us. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.159 You know, people would ask us, do you have this? 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.040 I say, let me, let me check my other ass 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.800 you know, do. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.879 You recall do you ever recall a time where you 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.800 said no? I said no, I can't. This is impossible, 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:50.879 we can't do it. 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:54.879 It's a pretty tough answer in TV to do that. 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:01.000 But the answer to that would be I learned by lessons. Obviously, 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.439 especially with Michael Jacobs, you could never say no. 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:05.800 I mean, I'm just going to say. 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.240 It only took one time to say I'm not sure 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.600 we can do that, and I learned my lesson. So 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.760 the answer always was how much time do I have? 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.920