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Speaker 2: Two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan It's Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show. I guess we were a buzzkill in the

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Speaker 2: first hour because we talked about the Browns and Saints

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Speaker 2: not being good. You want false hope, right, if you're

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Speaker 2: fans of these teams and it's September three, you want

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Speaker 2: I understand that my job is to just give you

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Speaker 2: what I believe is the truth. I'm not a hot

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Speaker 2: take guy. I'm not going out of my way to

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Speaker 2: disparage your team. I'm just telling you what I see

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Speaker 2: or what I hear. And if Vegas says the Saints

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Speaker 2: aren't going to be good, it's not me saying it.

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Speaker 3: It's Vegas saying it.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just the messenger, and apparently some people want

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Speaker 2: to shoot the messenger from the first How can you

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Speaker 2: say that, I'm just telling you what Vegas is saying,

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Speaker 2: and Vegas doesn't you know, they don't have an opinion

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Speaker 2: from the standpoint of playing favorites. They just give you.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to make money. That's that's their job, and

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Speaker 2: that's why they had these odds that this coach could

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Speaker 2: get fired or this team or these teams have no

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Speaker 4: Yes, Pauline, but fans of below average teams striving to

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Speaker 4: work on Wednesday the third would much rather have a

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Speaker 4: little fake hope, a little belief.

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Speaker 5: That, hey, you know what if we could get the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if Spencer Ratler, you know, plays the

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys are now eight and a half point

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Speaker 2: underdogs against the Philadelphia Eagles. The only other point spread

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Speaker 2: that's similar is Denver against Carolina's a right, Paul, It's

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Speaker 5: I believe Titans against them?

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Speaker 3: Well, Titans, Titans against them?

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Speaker 2: Okay, cam Ward's debut and the Denver Broncos playoff team

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Speaker 2: host a Good Morning Football will stop by and are

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Speaker 2: the Clippers in trouble? Pablo Torre is investigating the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: Did Steve Balmer have I guess a company that he started,

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't a real company, but they were using

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Speaker 2: money in that company to pay Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 3: I think I have the parameters correct. Does that sound right?

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Speaker 6: Paul?

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Speaker 2: Who was a Was it a tree service company?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like those no show jobs they talked

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Speaker 4: about with college sports. According to Pablo Tory, there was

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Speaker 4: a fraudulent tree planting company funded with fifty million dollars

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Speaker 4: of Steve Balmer, the Clippers owner's money, and Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 4: had an endorsement deal with this company, a no show

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Speaker 5: Which would circumvent the salary kit.

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Speaker 2: Allegedly, Pablo Torre will join us coming up next hour.

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Speaker 2: But if Pablo Torre is taking a deep dive, as

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Speaker 2: we found out in the last six months, look out.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We did reach out to the Clippers and Steve Balmer,

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Speaker 2: we did reach out to the NBA. No word back justice,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Todd, But we did reach out to all

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Speaker 2: sides involved in this. But I thought that Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 2: had a no show job that was called being a clipper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good joke.

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Speaker 2: Too easy, But you're gonna pay him more money, and

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Speaker 2: you can do so with the Tree Service Company. And

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Speaker 2: apparently it was a no show job.

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Speaker 4: Hey, mom and dad, I got a job with the

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Speaker 4: city planning trees all summer. What'd you make son? Twenty

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Speaker 4: eight million dollars?

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Pablo tore about this because if

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Speaker 2: if he's got enough information, I think he talked to

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Speaker 2: six or seven former employees of the Tree Service Company.

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Speaker 2: Un how much did they get paid for their no

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Speaker 2: show job? They did all the work, Kawhi go buy

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Speaker 2: and go Hey guys, yeah, Seaton, So.

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Speaker 7: Does that mean Kawhi was really getting paid like not

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Speaker 7: fifty million, but like close to.

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Speaker 2: Eight It certainly sounds like there was an excess of

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Speaker 3: Seventy million.

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Speaker 4: God, yes, Paulie, there is a bit of precedent for

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my first thought is now that's that

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Speaker 2: was a different commissioner. Adam Silver is a hey, come on,

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Speaker 2: let's play nice in the sandbox commissioner David Stern, who

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Speaker 2: it would be, you know, they'd be held a pick.

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Speaker 2: Now doesn't mean Adam Silver is not going to come

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Speaker 2: down on the Clippers if this is true, But they're

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Speaker 2: going to lose. They're gonna lose first round draft picks,

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Speaker 2: and they'll probably be fined a substantial amount of money.

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Speaker 3: But this is early in the investigation.

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Speaker 2: Let's you know, we want to be fair to all

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Speaker 2: sides here, but Pablo Torre got to the point where

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Speaker 2: he made this public, and you make it public when

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Speaker 2: you feel like you Now the Clippers didn't say, hey,

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Speaker 3: They denied. You know that this was true.

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Speaker 2: But we'll talk to Pablo Torre about how much information

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Speaker 2: you have and at what point do you decide to

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Speaker 2: go public with this that you're accusing Steve Baumer circumventing

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Speaker 2: the salary cap for Kawhi Leonard amazing. Kawhi Leonard and

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Speaker 2: Darrell Revs and Kirk Cousins great business guys, great businessmen.

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Speaker 2: Kawhi is a Hall of Famer, KIRKT. Cousins is not.

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Speaker 2: Durell revas is. But when it comes to financial you know,

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Speaker 2: the the financial acumen that they have or their representatives,

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Speaker 3: And here's Kawhi who's made a ton of money.

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Speaker 2: And he's he's gonna be one of those guys will

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Speaker 2: he should have been a whole lot better.

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Speaker 3: And it goes back to the Spurs. Remember when he

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Speaker 2: Didn't he get a second opinion, had the fallout with Popovich,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, you know, this thigh injury,

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Speaker 2: and next thing, you know, he's playing for the Raptors,

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Speaker 2: and just wild, wild story with Kawhi Leonard who comes

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Speaker 2: helps lead them to an NBA championship, good feel good story,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it's like he's not

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Speaker 2: gonna play, he's gonna get a second opinion, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: He's gonna leave, He's going to the Clippers.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Marvin, Luckily he's playing for the Clippers, because if

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Speaker 8: he's playing for the Lakers, this would have been front

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Speaker 8: page now. No, I think it's because of Kawhi and

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Speaker 8: the Clippers as a combination of he's a low key

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Speaker 9: No knock to the Clippers. But luckily it's not the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: But we'll talk to Pablo Tory next hour about this.

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Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel, Yeah, Johnny Manziel was trending yesterday because Johnny

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Speaker 2: Manziel was on the Nightcap podcast and the former Cleveland

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Speaker 10: I sit here today and I go back and forth

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Speaker 10: with man, am I gonna let Cleveland off the hook

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Speaker 10: and just like let it go? Or Am I gonna

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Speaker 10: sit here with the hate and animosity in my heart

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Speaker 10: for the rest of my life? And I finally sit

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Speaker 10: here today, I'm like good. I think I'm gonna be

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Speaker 10: pissed at I'm and hate him forever. So it is

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Speaker 10: what it is.

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Speaker 3: Man, no love for the Browns.

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Speaker 10: I'm rooving for oh with sixteen seasons every season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they did draft you in the first round. Remember

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Speaker 2: when he sent a message draft me, sent that to

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Speaker 2: didn't live up to what you were supposed to. And

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Speaker 2: you're blaming the Cleveland Browns for Okay, maybe organizationally not

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Speaker 3: Is it mismanagement?

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Speaker 2: I saw a quote that was attached to Johnny that

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Speaker 2: on how to you know, position me to succeed. If

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Speaker 2: But to blame the Cleveland Browns. I mean, this keeps

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Speaker 2: you in the news, but it is time to move on.

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Speaker 2: It is it is time to move on because you

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Speaker 2: should have been able to take care of yourself and

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Speaker 2: you didn't. You famously did not. And you know, we've

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Speaker 2: had former teammates on this show who have talked about

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Speaker 2: how you didn't care. Joe Thomas talked about that All

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Speaker 2: of Famer that you didn't put in the time, that

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Speaker 2: being a celebrity was more important to you. You got

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Speaker 2: to take it. You're not taking accountability. You didn't take accountability,

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Speaker 2: then you're not taking it. Now take accountability. Both sides

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Speaker 2: made the mistakes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie, do you think of a guy like Manziell

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Speaker 4: where was taken in round four and didn't get that

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Speaker 4: big rookie deal. He may have worked harder to be

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he would have a chip on

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Speaker 2: his shoulder to try to prove everybody wrong. Maybe, but

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Speaker 2: if you go back to college, I mean, he got

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Speaker 2: while we loved watching him, he gave us one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest seasons in college football history. You know, when

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Speaker 2: you're rushing for what fifteen hundred yards, you're you're running

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Speaker 2: for touchdowns, you're throwing for touchdowns, you're beating Alabama OUTABMA.

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Speaker 2: It just you got to put in the time at

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Speaker 2: and at that position, you can become a celebrity, but

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Speaker 2: you got to become really good at what you do first,

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Speaker 2: because it doesn't go you know, in the inverse order

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Speaker 2: there reverse order. Hey, I'm a celebrity. Now I'm going

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Speaker 2: to try to be a good quarterback. Be a good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Then it you know, it might evolve into something bigger.

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Speaker 2: But that's unfortunate because move on, figure out what you're

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Speaker 2: doing with your life and apply. You just hate holding

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Speaker 2: a grudge and if you're still blaming others, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is gone.

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Speaker 3: And I even.

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Speaker 11: Dan?

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Speaker 6: Speaking of Las Vegas odds. I think if Mark Davis

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Speaker 3: Thank you? All right.

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Speaker 2: David's been on fire recently, he roasting Belichick, roasting the Raiders.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Marvin, I feel a little better if Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: Pie to the face. There we go, Raiders better record

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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football, got a new show. The debuts today,

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Speaker 11: Normally, Dan, I would say I collaborated with my friends

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Speaker 11: and I don't think they said the name Barry Switzer

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Speaker 11: one time.

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Speaker 5: Between them, they.

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Speaker 11: Said Jimmy Johnson Dan probably thirty times. My takeaway was

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Speaker 11: Jimmy Johnson was the coach of that team. He had

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Speaker 11: been removed for years. And Barry Switzer, God bless him.

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Speaker 11: These guys did not want to say the word. They

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Speaker 11: avoided the word even when I asked about it. I

446
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Speaker 11: just think Jimmy was still the head coach, and the

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Speaker 11: emotions came out for those.

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Speaker 2: Two talking to Kyle Brant NFL Network, Good Morning Football,

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Speaker 2: NFL Classics upon further review at nine Eastern on Vice TV,

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Speaker 2: and Michael Irvan Emmett Smith with the first episode.

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Speaker 3: Fans can't get to you when.

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Speaker 2: You're hosting Good Morning Football, like they can call into

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Speaker 2: the show. Where they can you know, they can text

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Speaker 2: or tweet the show. But you know, I'm already getting

455
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Speaker 2: catching strays because I was critical of the Browns and Saints,

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Speaker 2: you know, just the odds of them making the playoffs

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Speaker 2: or going to the super Bowl. How do fans get

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Speaker 2: to you to let you know they don't like what

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Speaker 2: you said?

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Speaker 11: Oh well, you're putting this one right in the wheelhouse.

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Speaker 11: We just made playoff picks yesterday. Here's the ones that

462
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Speaker 11: I like them. I like the fan bases that you

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Speaker 11: picked their team for the playoffs. But it's only a

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Speaker 11: wildcard and not a Are you kidding me? I'm getting

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Speaker 11: screamed at by of all people, I'm getting screamed at

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Speaker 11: by Lions fans because they only won the wild card.

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Speaker 11: Is there a more nouveau reach thing than that? Somebody

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Speaker 11: drive in a yellow because they won the lottery, and

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Speaker 11: they're already complaining that they're only a wild card. The

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Speaker 11: Lions fans would have cut off a finger for a

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Speaker 11: wild card five years ago. And they hate me on

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Speaker 11: social media because I dare to give them not the

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Speaker 11: division championship. It's nuts.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you program director for the NFL. You picked,

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Speaker 2: let's do it. You picked the super Bowl.

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Speaker 11: Okay. If i'm if I'm programmed director for human beings

477
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Speaker 11: and all of humanity, and in the time of AI

478
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Speaker 11: we need some of this, then that one's easy. Just

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Speaker 11: just give me Buffalo versus Detroit and someone can be happy.

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Speaker 11: All right, that's you get those fans together, it's hugging.

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Speaker 11: It's cats and dogs living together. Somebody wins. But if

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna be the NFL programmer, and I'm gonna try

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Speaker 11: to do it at the bottom line, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 11: spike ratings, Dan, can I also pick the halftime performer?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 11: I have the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl again,

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Speaker 11: Taylor's the halftime performer. And then in the NFC, we

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Speaker 11: can't do Philadelphia. It's Dallas. It's Dallas versus Kansas City,

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Speaker 11: and they have the story of the year has been

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Speaker 11: that Jerry Jones suckered us all and Micah wasn't when

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Speaker 11: Micah was cracked up to be and he's back and

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Speaker 11: he's against Taylor and she's doing Love Story and everybody's crying.

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Speaker 11: It's Chiefs Cowboys in San Francisco, where the Cowboys have

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Speaker 11: a lot of history. That's it.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a better chance that Taylor Swift does

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Speaker 2: halftime than the Cowboys get there.

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Speaker 11: I think you're right. I think actually, at this point,

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Speaker 11: I think the Super Bowl halftime show is beneath Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 11: I think that she is way bigger than it. And

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Speaker 11: I may say that as an NFL employee. I think

501
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Speaker 11: she's bigger than it, and I think you're right. I

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Speaker 11: think it's still more likely that she does it and

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Speaker 11: goes a three hour set before the Cowboys do it.

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Speaker 11: I said lines fans, I'm trying to figure out, Dan,

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Speaker 11: why are you hearing from Saints and Browns fans? What

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Speaker 11: do they have to complain about?

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Speaker 2: They don't want to be told. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: have false hope on September third? You don't want to

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Speaker 2: hear the voice saying yeah. Vegas said, you guys have

510
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Speaker 2: the best dodge for the number one pick in the draft,

511
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Speaker 2: or Vegas says that you guys have the longest dodge

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Speaker 2: to reach the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to hear it. They know it's true,

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Speaker 3: they don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 11: I think they should hear it. There's nothing wrong with that,

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Speaker 11: at least after a Week one. If you lose Week one,

517
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Speaker 11: then they'll be calling the show being like, when are

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Speaker 11: you going to start doing mock drafts. I can't believe that.

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Speaker 11: Saints and Browns, let's go.

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Speaker 2: There are more teams you think can reach the super

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Speaker 2: Bowl or more teams who can't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 11: I think there's a lot of teams that could reach

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Speaker 11: the super Bowl this year. You have the normal headliners

524
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Speaker 11: that you think of, of course this team, that team,

525
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Speaker 11: and then you have these teams that aren't in the

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Speaker 11: neon lights, like teams that are built for a super Bowl,

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Speaker 11: like Tampa Bay for example. Who have the coach, you

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Speaker 11: have the quarterback. I don't mind the Rams again, I

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Speaker 11: always look at the coaches. I don't mind the Chargers.

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Speaker 11: Like the only thing people can say against the Chargers

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Speaker 11: is they lost the linemen. It sucks, I know, he

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Speaker 11: got hurt. I just look at Jim Harbone and look

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Speaker 11: at the quarterback we're in this WEEKDND where there's this

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Speaker 11: there's this sweepstakes Kentucky Derby type thing here in sports

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Speaker 11: media where everyone gives their picks and everyone has to

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Speaker 11: be right, and everyone's trying to hack the system. I

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Speaker 11: have a few simple guidelines that I go by first

538
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Speaker 11: and foremost always always always pick the Steelers in the

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Speaker 11: Bingo card. They're the free space. You get that one

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Speaker 11: for free. The rest are up to you. I always

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Speaker 11: pick the Rams because I believe Sean McVay is the

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Speaker 11: best coach in the league. And then just look at coaches.

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Speaker 11: Just pick veteran, proven coaches and the guys who have

544
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Speaker 11: been there before, and they'll get you home. So I

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Speaker 11: think there's a lot of teams that can make the

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Speaker 11: super Bowl this year because then you get those tasty

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Speaker 11: ones like a few years ago Joe Burrow and the

548
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Speaker 11: Bengals in his second year, and then you're like, oh,

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Speaker 11: look at all the second year quarterbacks. You got them

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Speaker 11: across the board. One of those teams could make a run.

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Speaker 11: Because I think for quarterbacks now year two the year

552
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Speaker 11: is new year five. So All those guys are in

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Speaker 11: the freight too.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like March Madness, where you always pick tom

555
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Speaker 2: Izzo in Michigan State because it's it's tom Izzo, or

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Speaker 2: you pick John Caliperi, Rick Patino. You're picking the coaches,

557
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Speaker 2: Jim Beaheim, You're picking the coaches who are always going

558
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Speaker 2: to be there. You went to the Steelers camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how's morale great?

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Speaker 11: It's good. I mean, I say this pretty candidly. It

561
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Speaker 11: was odd. I sat with Mike Tomlin as someone who

562
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Speaker 11: spent the entire offseason saying that he should be replaced,

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Speaker 11: and so I respected that he's still sat down. But

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Speaker 11: I've been the guy saying Mike Tomlin is at the

565
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Speaker 11: point that Andy Reid was with the Eagles. There's nothing

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Speaker 11: wrong with it. It's going to benefit both parties. The

567
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Speaker 11: part he'll land somewhere else. And then you show up

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Speaker 11: to camp and I have to tell you, Dad, I've

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Speaker 11: never sat with him before. It's every single thing you

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Speaker 11: ever hope it was. There's gravitas, there's magnetism, there's insights.

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Speaker 11: He looks at you, he shakes your hand, heart and

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Speaker 11: everything he say you just kind of nod, even though

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Speaker 11: some of its cliches. And then I say to him,

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Speaker 11: all right, He's like, we got some veterans here. I

575
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Speaker 11: got to teach an old dog new tricks. And I said, well,

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Speaker 11: you have the oldest dog in the league. Your quarterback's

577
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Speaker 11: forty one. He laughs. Rogers sits down, fantastic, positive vibe,

578
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Speaker 11: super happy. Gets married in the off season. I presented

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Speaker 11: him with that question because there was a lot of

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Speaker 11: I don't know, internet rumors and intrigued that Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 11: you just showed up and got married. You're a public

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Speaker 11: figure we've been following for years. I presented him with

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Speaker 11: information that I said, Aaron, I did the research. Players

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Speaker 11: in this generation who get married in the off season

585
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Speaker 11: go on to have an overwhelmingly successful next season Across

586
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Speaker 11: the board. It always happens. How is this affecting you

587
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Speaker 11: as a football player? And he goes into this deep

588
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Speaker 11: dive answer about how his life is different and his

589
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Speaker 11: support system is different and all because of her, and

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Speaker 11: all because of her. Meanwhile, the rumors online about what

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Speaker 11: this could be are I'm playing at Mars and he

592
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Speaker 11: just locks in and says, I'm playing this season for us.

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Speaker 11: So he's unique, He's unusual, he's still my favorite player

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Speaker 11: to interview, and his vibe was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I give you credit that you came at it with

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Speaker 2: a different angle because that's thank you. That's the tough part,

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Speaker 2: and you know, being a great interviewer, it's about what

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Speaker 2: is my angle that's going to be different because you

599
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Speaker 2: want them to realize that you did your homework and

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Speaker 2: that you did give this great thought instead of saying,

601
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Speaker 2: hey he got married.

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Speaker 11: Huh yeah, yeah, he's.

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Speaker 2: Not going to give you. You got to work. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's certain athletes that you just have to work. They'll

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Speaker 2: make it worth your while, but you got to work.

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Speaker 2: And Aaron's one of those guys that he's not going

607
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Speaker 2: to listen to foolishness. So give you a lot of

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Speaker 2: credit with that.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate the compliment from you, and it's you're exactly right.

610
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Speaker 11: And I did the same thing last week with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 11: I got to ask him, you can appreciate this, Dan.

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Speaker 11: I got to sit with Josh Allen for about twelve

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Speaker 11: minutes and I have to somehow ask him. You never

614
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Speaker 11: can beat the Chiefs. Everyone's talking about it. It's really

615
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Speaker 11: the only topic we can talk about you with football.

616
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Speaker 11: Is you can't get over the hump your what is

617
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Speaker 11: the original way to do that? And I concocted this

618
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Speaker 11: thing that was just like, listen, your wife. In her industry,

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Speaker 11: they have the Oscar speech and you think about it

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Speaker 11: and you practice in the mirror and you do it

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Speaker 11: in the shower. Do you have the super Bowl speech?

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Speaker 11: Is that something you have? And he went and he went,

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Speaker 11: He said, I had it since I was a kid.

624
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Speaker 11: I know every word, I know the tone, I knew

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Speaker 11: all of that, and I could tell a palpable appreciation

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Speaker 11: that I wasn't just like, how about these chiefs?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 11: I guess you're patriots for manning? And he actually gave

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Speaker 11: a creative answer. So I was very proud.

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Speaker 2: The pressure on Josh Allen, now you won an MVP.

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Speaker 2: Local pressure, national pressure. Is there any big variation in

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Speaker 2: those two?

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Speaker 11: Well, the buffalo pressure is just more as just buffalo

634
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Speaker 11: terror and fear and just how can we not get

635
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Speaker 11: one with this guy. I think the national pressure is

636
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Speaker 11: the same it's been for about three years. It's the

637
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Speaker 11: same identical pressure on Lamar Jackson, where every road leads

638
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Speaker 11: to that you're great, you did this. But the difference

639
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Speaker 11: is is that Josh has played much better in the

640
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Speaker 11: playoffs than Lamar is. So Josh's narrative is they got

641
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Speaker 11: to get him help nationally. But I have to say,

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Speaker 11: I asked him point blank about you are looked at

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Speaker 11: as this new Peyton Manning. How do you deal with that?

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Speaker 11: Everything you do in the community, in the locker room,

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Speaker 11: you carry a burden with you, and the burden is

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Speaker 11: Josh has to bring home the big one. He said,

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Speaker 11: I don't think about it, and I'm like, yo, come on,

648
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Speaker 11: you think about it. He said, if it doesn't happen,

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Speaker 11: I'll be okay with that because I know I'm doing

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Speaker 11: everything I possibly can. This is a guy who is

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Speaker 11: twenty nine, he's three hundred million bucks. He just married

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Speaker 11: a movie star. He references her. I've been here Josh

653
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Speaker 11: Allen twenty five times. I have never heard him reference

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Speaker 11: God as much as he did, which I think is

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Speaker 11: a very good thing and shows he's onto new deals.

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Speaker 11: So he flat out said, I'm going all in. If

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Speaker 11: it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, so I don't worry

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Speaker 11: about it. It's his plan.

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Speaker 2: I find it interesting that you have baseball pitchers who

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Speaker 2: are really good in the regular season, yeah, and not

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Speaker 2: good in the postseason. You know, Greg Maddox wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: You know, Clayton Kershawn had his moments, but their Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame pictures and you have quarterbacks Lamar Jackson is

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Speaker 2: kind of built for the regular season, Josh Allen. Regular season,

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Speaker 2: it's that big game where Mahomes is built for both.

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Speaker 2: But now I think he's more built for the postseason

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Speaker 2: than the regular season. I just I find that interesting

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Speaker 2: with And I don't know if it's you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of pushing or stretching for something, but it just

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Speaker 2: feels like some quarterbacks love live like Brady. I don't

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Speaker 2: know any of his stats from the regular season.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't like the one season where you

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Speaker 3: know he had Randy Moss. But I just knew when

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Speaker 3: he got to the postseason, he's going to win the game.

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Speaker 3: If he's got the ball three minutes, two minutes ago,

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Speaker 3: he's winning the game.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes has graduated to that level certain guys where you go,

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Speaker 2: oh boy, this is bad, but they are built for

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Speaker 2: that moment.

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Speaker 3: How do you explain that?

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Speaker 11: It's I know exactly what you mean. There's certain guys

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Speaker 11: on the flip side that when it's this, that's third

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Speaker 11: and twelve is coming up, and I just I know

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Speaker 11: this is not going to go well, and then it's

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Speaker 11: a pick six. And it's not that the guys aren't talented.

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Speaker 11: Like listen, the Peyton thing that goes back to college

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Speaker 11: when he couldn't beat the Gators. He just couldn't do it,

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Speaker 11: no matter how good he was. You mentioned Clayton Kershaw.

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Speaker 11: I remember when they were calling him Clayton Manning because

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Speaker 11: he would get to October and he would just fall apart.

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Speaker 11: There's certain guys, and I listen you talk about fan

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Speaker 11: complaints and people getting mad. Baltimore raven Stands are very

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Speaker 11: sensitive about Lamar, I mean very sensitive, and I get it.

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Speaker 11: He is their guy. I always put it as Lamar

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Speaker 11: is the fantastic, fantastic regular season player. He doesn't play

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Speaker 11: his A game in the playoffs. He doesn't play the D.

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Speaker 11: He plays the B or B plus and the best

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Speaker 11: ones hit their A game in the playoffs, and so

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Speaker 11: he has turnovers. He'll do this, he'll do that, and

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Speaker 11: I'm not saying he's bad, but only certain guys, like

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Speaker 11: the ones you referenced out of nowhere sometimes can just

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Speaker 11: get to that a game and certain guys can.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with the show and and your day job too.

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Speaker 2: At Good Morning Football. Great to talk to you again.

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Speaker 11: Uh Dan, It's great to see you anywhere other than

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Speaker 11: the sports semans where I usually see you and we

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Speaker 11: never win.

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Speaker 2: I know, we were both like peeking in, like, uh, okay,

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Speaker 2: who's gonna win.

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Speaker 3: It's not us. Okay, drive home safely.

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Speaker 11: I wish I could. You're so dead. I wish I

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Speaker 11: could tell the fans. Dan is literally in the last row,

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Speaker 11: like throw five thousand, there's no one behind him. I

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Speaker 11: saw Fritzy and me and as they're reading our award,

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Speaker 11: we basically have our valet ticket in our hands.

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Speaker 2: My car was running just to let you go like

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Speaker 2: I am out of here. Thank you, Good to talk

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 11: Thanks Dan.

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Speaker 2: That's Kyle Brant, NFL Network Good Morning Football, and his

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Speaker 2: new show tonight at nine eastern on Vice TV. It's

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Speaker 2: called NFL Classics Upon further review with Michael Irvan, who

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Speaker 2: will join us at the top of the hour, and EMMITTT.

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Speaker 3: Smith. Well take a break, your phone calls and we

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Speaker 3: will pick the defensive Player of the Year. After this.

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Speaker 2: We're going to do the Defensive Player of the Year now,

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Speaker 2: not asking you to tell me who the favorite is.

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Speaker 2: It's who you think will be the defensive player of

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Speaker 2: the year, Todd, I'll start with you. Defensive player of

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Speaker 2: the Year is going to be.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Aiden Hutchinson, back from injury and he's.

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Speaker 9: Got a lot to prove.

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Speaker 2: He has the second best odds according to DraftKings Seaton

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Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go a little further down what I imagine

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Speaker 7: these lists have. I'm going with one William Anderson, junr.

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Speaker 3: Oh the third.

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Speaker 7: I think this is his breakout year.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I think Marvin.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with Jared versus the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, We're going with a little bit more

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Speaker 2: of a long shot there, all right.

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Speaker 4: Paul, I will go with Max two Ex's Crosby, kind

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Speaker 4: of a career achievement, come back from injury type thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Jalen Carter.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Carter of the Eagles, Thank you, thank you, Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 4: It would be interesting because Jalen Carter, who's completely worthy,

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Speaker 4: could do it without stats. Yes, like he could have

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Speaker 4: seven sacks, but he disrupts everything.

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Speaker 2: But it's like Aaron Donald. Yes, Aaron Donald was the

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Speaker 2: best defensive player. But it wasn't about stats.

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Speaker 9: There.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 2: also have Let's see do I have the let me see?

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Speaker 3: How about this the odds for the Rookie of the Year?

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Speaker 3: I did? Who will lead in rushing? Let's see? Do

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Speaker 3: I have the.

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Speaker 5: Offense defensive player in the year.

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Speaker 2: I know, maybe I lost my way here, lost my

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Speaker 2: sheet that had offense. Oh here it is Offensive Rookie

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Speaker 2: of the Year and Defensive Rookie of the Year. Offensive

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Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. Todd I'm gonna go Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter fourth on the list. Marvin I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: Ashton Gense. He is the leading candidate.

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Speaker 5: Paul for the Patriots. Trevion Henderson running.

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Speaker 7: Back okay, Seaton, I'm also going Ashton gent Oh, okay

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Speaker 7: as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go cam Ward, cam Ward Defensive Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year, Marvin This is the rookie of This is

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Speaker 2: the defensive Rookie of the Year. Abduall Carter is the

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Speaker 2: overwhelming favorite to be the defensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter is second, Mike Greene, Jalen Walker, and I

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Speaker 2: think that's it. So just some of your draft kings odds.

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Speaker 7: I feel like those bottom three guys also play for

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Speaker 7: the Houston Rockets. Mike Green, Jayen Walker, Michael Williams. Those

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Speaker 7: guys all play for the Rockets, confirm or they might

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Speaker 7: have been traded to the Portland Trailblazer. Yeah, maybe stop

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Speaker 7: with the Hawks. But Joe in Vegas, Good morning, Joe,

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Speaker 7: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: Good morning, mister Patrick. Thank you for taking the call.

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Speaker 6: Yet the other day on the show, you had mentioned

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Speaker 6: something you briefly talked about Kirk Kirk Street and his

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Speaker 6: relationship with Lee Corso and how he sort of helped

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Speaker 6: him and walked him through some things in the last

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Speaker 6: couple of years.

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Speaker 9: Of his career.

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Speaker 6: There on college game day, and I was reminded of

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Speaker 6: one of my many, many things I love about this

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Speaker 6: show is that the dynamic you had with Paulie, because

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Speaker 6: as we know, you wear your emotions on your sleeve.

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Speaker 6: You're not afraid to cry, You're not afraid to let

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Speaker 6: us know how you feel. And Paulie, as we all know,

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Speaker 6: does not cry and does not show emotion. And so

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Speaker 6: I don't know what this says about me, but the

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Speaker 6: morning that the Great Jerry West passed away, my first

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Speaker 6: thought was, how is Dan going to handle this on

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Speaker 6: the air this morning? And my second thought was, it's

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Speaker 6: going to be really interesting to watch Paullie kind of

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Speaker 6: be the safety net for Dan and walk him through

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Speaker 6: it because we know Dan is going to struggle to

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Speaker 6: get through it on the air. And it's just a wonderful,

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Speaker 6: wonderful thing I love about the show and the relationship

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Speaker 6: that you and Paulie have and how he kind of

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Speaker 6: walks you through things sometimes when we know you're going

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Speaker 6: to get emotional.

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Speaker 3: Look, thank you, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I go back to when I didn't know if

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Speaker 2: I was going to continue to do this, when I

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Speaker 2: was forgetting things I couldn't remember Albert Poohols his name.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't remember tom Izzo's name. And I said to Paul,

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Speaker 2: I said, you just have to be there, and he

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Speaker 2: was at really the most important time, because I didn't

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Speaker 2: know if I wanted to continue the way I was feeling,

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Speaker 2: and I just I couldn't have clear thoughts, and even

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Speaker 2: when there's somebody who passes way, and certainly with Jerry,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was a tough day because in my mind,

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Speaker 2: my dad just died again. I saw Jerry West every

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Speaker 2: time I saw Jerry West, because my dad said, watch,

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Speaker 2: that's that's how you play basketball. And so I think

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Speaker 2: that's why it hit me so hard, our relationship with Jerry.

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Speaker 2: But I was kind of saying goodbye to my dad

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Speaker 2: one more time. Two hours in the books, Final Hour

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Speaker 2: on the Way