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Speaker 1: making it more than you. Right now, Can you tell
Speaker 1: everybody who's followed your career, maybe from a football standpoint,
Speaker 1: what you're doing in broadcasting, because you're blowing up. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate it. I was with Barstool for
Speaker 1: three years. I had fun there. I was doing barstood
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Speaker 1: Uh left Barstool. Now I with Sirius XM. You can
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Speaker 1: and we're talking about everything unneath the son morning Man. Yeah. Sports,
Speaker 1: I'd like to say it's sports, uh sports show with
Speaker 1: a bite. We get a little ackey, but it's fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're and you're still gonna be fine on the
Speaker 1: Jets throughout the season as well. Yeah, that's that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm on That's why you catch me doing the prim post,
Speaker 1: me and Bart Scott and Gelps who does an amazing job.
Speaker 1: And I'm just active. Man. I got two little babies.
Speaker 1: I got a two year old, I got him one
Speaker 1: year old, and uh, I was very active during the
Speaker 1: pandemic to say the least. I got my sports bar
Speaker 1: in the Bronx six or five Brooklyn Boulevard, Berkston Hops.
Speaker 1: That's my sports bar. So and on top of that,
Speaker 1: my wife is doing reality TV right now, so I'm
Speaker 1: we're moving and grooving. I'm all over the tail. What
Speaker 1: is reality TV all about? From your perspective, man, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's weird because you realize when you walk into it,
Speaker 1: at least trying to be entertaining and trying to be realistic. Um,
Speaker 1: sometimes you just have to be you, which is not
Speaker 1: hard for me. But at the same time, it's it's
Speaker 1: very You're walking into a lot of confrontation. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's cool, sometimes it's not. But it's entertainment and
Speaker 1: we try to be entertaining as possible. So where can
Speaker 1: we check that out. Yeah, it's it's on own the
Speaker 1: first episode it's called Bell Collectives. My wife is, uh,
Speaker 1: she's one of the bells so to speak. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: make a couple of pearances on there, and uh you
Speaker 1: catch it on their own network, it will be there.
Speaker 1: I think. I think they're at eight o'clock. So, so
Speaker 1: do you catch yourself watching a new reality television that
Speaker 1: is not sports? Because I always had this argument with
Speaker 1: my wife the only reality TV remaining is professional sports. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get into it. Like one of my favorite shows
Speaker 1: that Below Deck right now. I love that, damn. I
Speaker 1: mean you get to see great you know, exotic places
Speaker 1: and in the storylines are pretty good, and I get
Speaker 1: into it. Um, I was a traditionalist. I used to
Speaker 1: watch the Jersey Shores and the car Dazzings for a
Speaker 1: while and I'm kind of over that. And uh so
Speaker 1: that's if there was one show that I actually watch,
Speaker 1: uh is probably below Deck for a his reality TV
Speaker 1: and Jersey Shore. It's still got to spend them off.
Speaker 1: They're still going right, like they all got kids, you know,
Speaker 1: their kids got kids, and they're still you know, fist
Speaker 1: pumping and uh causing the causing the Rucket. So they're
Speaker 1: still at it. All right, So let's talk a little
Speaker 1: Jets football. If you are back here at de dri
Speaker 1: what do you think it's on the horizon for Robert
Speaker 1: Sala and company as they start year two. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: interested to find out where's this patience U where's this
Speaker 1: patience level is at? And I say that from a
Speaker 1: standpoint when you into a new job with a new
Speaker 1: quarterback in the whole new regime and everything's kind of new,
Speaker 1: you kind of just have to sit back and just
Speaker 1: see what you have and let the team kind of
Speaker 1: mature on its own. Now that the fact that had
Speaker 1: I think personally, I've been on record as saying this,
Speaker 1: I think they probably probably had one of the best
Speaker 1: drafts in franchise history as far as addressing need, adding
Speaker 1: weapons um depth was huge. Um, I feel like they
Speaker 1: just hit Joe Douglas and Robert Cosalid hit everything I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought they were a macclate and so now it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, we know what we have, we know what
Speaker 1: we can do. Where's where's my patients level? How long
Speaker 1: am I going to accept things that I know we
Speaker 1: should be doing better at this time? Or how long
Speaker 1: am I gonna sit back and allowed his team to
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, just kind of go through the emotions.
Speaker 1: Am I gonna be the coach to kind of really
Speaker 1: crack the whip and lean on these guys? I can
Speaker 1: tell you from my experience and this is mostly with
Speaker 1: my time with the Pittsburgh Steelers. The more success we
Speaker 1: had to previous year, the less patients might have coach
Speaker 1: had because there was an expectation, there was a demand,
Speaker 1: and there was a let level of everybody's gunning for you.
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do about it? So we
Speaker 1: we we were forced to have a lot more sharper
Speaker 1: practices and we were forced to be a lot more
Speaker 1: physical because that's the identity we we created, and it
Speaker 1: led for us to have a lot of success and
Speaker 1: go on to the playoffs and obviously championships. So I'm
Speaker 1: wondering what the team, this team in particular, because you
Speaker 1: do have the talent, you do have valid young talent.
Speaker 1: Where is his patience level at? You know, is he
Speaker 1: gonna be like, all right, I I dealt with last year.
Speaker 1: This year we we gotta go. And so is training
Speaker 1: camp gonna be harder? Is he gonna be leading on
Speaker 1: a lot more guys who have had a little long intitude,
Speaker 1: who had experience um and where the level of execution
Speaker 1: because there always has to be it always has to
Speaker 1: be a demand like, oh, you want your team to
Speaker 1: you know, you had checking points I feel as a coach,
Speaker 1: but where's your patience level at? And some a lot
Speaker 1: of I realized the more success I had there was
Speaker 1: it was lack of patience. Did you like being the
Speaker 1: Hunter because you started with the Pittsburgh Steelers, of course
Speaker 1: and you experienced so much success there. Then he came
Speaker 1: here a little bit of a different situation where Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan and company are saying, Hey, we're going after New
Speaker 1: England Patriots and we ain't putting up with this. We
Speaker 1: know you're the big bully, but we're here to fight.
Speaker 1: Well I was. That was mainly because of Rex's personality
Speaker 1: and his attitude, and he was he was always kind
Speaker 1: of a backyard browler brawler. And that's why he called.
Speaker 1: He got on the phone and called me because I
Speaker 1: had played against him, not only when he was with
Speaker 1: the Ravens, his time with the Jets, and so he
Speaker 1: knew who I was. And when I got to New York,
Speaker 1: it was just for me when I was coming home too,
Speaker 1: I was gonna play alongside Nick Mangold and Brickshaw Ferguson
Speaker 1: and on top of that, Wreck was gonna give me everything.
Speaker 1: And he did um and I was excited just to
Speaker 1: play with him, and he delivered. Obviously, we didn't win
Speaker 1: a lot of games. We kind of we went through
Speaker 1: our little ups and downs. But I was excited to
Speaker 1: play with him, in particular because of his mentality that
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who you are, We're gonna punch you
Speaker 1: in the mouth. And I think that's a part of
Speaker 1: just understanding that football, no matter what you draw up,
Speaker 1: no matter how you make it look pretty, it's all
Speaker 1: about punching the guy in front of you and the
Speaker 1: mouth and let him know that you're here for all
Speaker 1: four quarters. What do you think about the Jets from
Speaker 1: an offensive line perspective, because let's rely on your expertise.
Speaker 1: Here their number one target free ancy link in Thomlinson.
Speaker 1: They get familiar with the system. Elijah vera Tucker by
Speaker 1: all kinds, I want to get your thoughts on him.
Speaker 1: Kind of recoverance back at the pivot, and then an
Speaker 1: interesting situation of the tackle position right now with McCay
Speaker 1: back then to George fantast Camp opens. Yeah. I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to Fan a little bit at
Speaker 1: the Gridiron Gallery. I think he was receiving award UM
Speaker 1: and I got to chop it up just a little bit. Solid.
Speaker 1: He's a prose pro does a great job. I love
Speaker 1: what he did with coming on the field, um for
Speaker 1: the Jets and just competing. You know, there was so
Speaker 1: much talk about beck then being out and when he's
Speaker 1: gonna come back, and there was a whole another saga,
Speaker 1: you know, not saga, but there was a whole thing
Speaker 1: going over here with Beckon. I think he ignored it.
Speaker 1: I think he just played football and he played well.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's always gonna be that mantra of
Speaker 1: being the office in line. When they don't talk about
Speaker 1: you that that's how you know you had a good day.
Speaker 1: And for weeks we weren't talking about the Jets office
Speaker 1: in line. We're talking about a lot of other things
Speaker 1: that we're going wrong with the New York Jets, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't that office in line, and that's a sign
Speaker 1: of guys really jelling, communicating and playing well. Uh. And
Speaker 1: so I liked the core they have. I think we
Speaker 1: have a really really good office in line. Um. I
Speaker 1: think we have office line that's gritty. The long as
Speaker 1: they stayed together, I think A. B. T is obviously
Speaker 1: the leader. He's he's the prize horse amongst the five. UM.
Speaker 1: I love Fan, I love Thomas and Lincoln Thompson because
Speaker 1: I think his experience coming from he's a vet. He's
Speaker 1: been there, done that, and he could be you know
Speaker 1: whoever you if you're gonna put McKay at the right
Speaker 1: tackle now, you give him a buffer. You give him
Speaker 1: somebody he can lean on, trust and they can communicate
Speaker 1: with and trust his experience. So I think what they
Speaker 1: have right now is great. It doesn't matter. I'm staying
Speaker 1: healthy one and continue to play together. What advice would
Speaker 1: you give for Beckton because he's a young guy. Interesting
Speaker 1: point in his career where he said, listen, I'm listening
Speaker 1: to what the critics are saying right now, and that's
Speaker 1: gonna add fuel to my fire. I'm always the thinking of, Hey,
Speaker 1: whatever your motivation is, it don't matter. Just get out
Speaker 1: there and do the best you can. Write. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of having a pistol off football player that big. Seriously,
Speaker 1: I mean I just walked out there. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: my first time seeing him with my own eyes. Um,
Speaker 1: obviously I've watched him play, um, but physically, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's that's John, that's Johnathan often type size, like that's
Speaker 1: generational type of heightened size. So um, I think you
Speaker 1: just can't. I think sometimes as analysts or people who
Speaker 1: cover football cover a team, we like to rush a
Speaker 1: guy's maturation period. Necessarily, it doesn't mean it's happening. Like
Speaker 1: we expect guys from the bottom from the neck down
Speaker 1: to be key Man's in all world. Right, Well, the
Speaker 1: kid is still young, he's still growing, believe it or not, right,
Speaker 1: and then from the neck up he still has levels
Speaker 1: to grow mature. So I'm I'm a fan of investing
Speaker 1: in a guy as long as he's willing to invest
Speaker 1: in himself and if you continue to have that type
Speaker 1: of relationship, like I'm not giving up on you. I
Speaker 1: don't care what injuries you have, I don't care what
Speaker 1: the media says, I don't care what's going on around you.
Speaker 1: Just know. And this is me if I was an
Speaker 1: office line coach, if I was coach Salah, I'm with you,
Speaker 1: Like ignore everything, because right now it's all about your
Speaker 1: maturation and you're developing. Like he understands that he's a
Speaker 1: high draft pick. He understands that he's he was built,
Speaker 1: he was brought here to be kind of uh franchise
Speaker 1: staple or a key factor for this organization. But you
Speaker 1: still can't rush his maturation period. He is who he
Speaker 1: is and you have to develop him. You still have
Speaker 1: to keep his confidence high, and you still have to
Speaker 1: understand like everything you want to train change about yourself
Speaker 1: from the neck up and the neck down is in
Speaker 1: your You have the ability to do so, but you
Speaker 1: gotta be committed to that. So I'm I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of him. I like him, um part of me when
Speaker 1: I see him. I know he trains with a good
Speaker 1: guy out in Texas, Duke Maryweather, who's a big officer
Speaker 1: line google guy. Um, so he's in good hands. In
Speaker 1: the offseason, I would love to work with him and
Speaker 1: talk to him. Um. Yeah, because you don't have enough time.
Speaker 1: I don't have enough time. But I I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of office in line player, not just because I'm a
Speaker 1: former officer a linement, because I just know a lot
Speaker 1: of times the details is not necessarily from the neck
Speaker 1: down is from the neck up, just seeing how the
Speaker 1: guy understand the guy's perspective, how he understands what he's
Speaker 1: doing out there, what he's seeing, and then being able
Speaker 1: to slow a guy's mind down because so much time.
Speaker 1: And you know, one thing I loved about Nick Nick
Speaker 1: actually died at our communication because he was just so
Speaker 1: into him with the offense. So we we understood what
Speaker 1: he was talking about, how he went about his job.
Speaker 1: So a lot of times when we walked up to
Speaker 1: the line, he would make a call making and we
Speaker 1: were just were bombed all the same accord. Well you
Speaker 1: don't have Nick, man goes not out there, right, And
Speaker 1: so how do you now and and it is not
Speaker 1: no shot acono mc government, But how do you now
Speaker 1: talk to guys who one all learned differently, all come
Speaker 1: from different walks of lives and and and taking knowledge
Speaker 1: and understand things differently. How do you get them on
Speaker 1: the same accords by taking them individually and seeing what
Speaker 1: they're seeing so you can make those directions and and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just just my that's just my. Would you be
Speaker 1: interested getting in coaching down the line? Man? My wife
Speaker 1: talks to me about that because I'm a ball haug man.
Speaker 1: I just love being around the game. I don't know, Um,
Speaker 1: what kind of feelings do you get when you just
Speaker 1: rolled the facility. When I walked in, the first thing
Speaker 1: I looked for was the was the cafeteria. That's what
Speaker 1: I was hungry. Uh No, I don't know. I love
Speaker 1: the game, man, and I love it for me, It's
Speaker 1: just a matter of you know, what role would I play? Um?
Speaker 1: I love the day to day just working with guys.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm from the old school. I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: used to being on the field. You know, back in
Speaker 1: the day. People don't remember. You know, we were We
Speaker 1: were in the building by before St. Patty's Day, and
Speaker 1: you were on the field doing lineman drills, and you
Speaker 1: were working technique, and you were doing you working flexibility,
Speaker 1: you're working angles, you're working. You were doing so much.
Speaker 1: When you got to me, it felt like you went
Speaker 1: through a season. You know, you had went through so much,
Speaker 1: but yet it just made your level of play execution
Speaker 1: so much better because you just you were just a
Speaker 1: part of it every day. Um, these guys are not
Speaker 1: on the field as much as they used to be,
Speaker 1: and I think the game reflects that UM and the
Speaker 1: office line players up and down. The guys who actually
Speaker 1: think play better. UM more guys who just are able
Speaker 1: to play longer just because they have the time and
Speaker 1: the reps. And to be to do anything, you have
Speaker 1: to have a lot of reps. But particularly the offseason,
Speaker 1: it matters for office a linement because you gotta slow
Speaker 1: you gotta slow the brain down, and the brain has
Speaker 1: to match what you're trying to do physically. That's so
Speaker 1: that's where I was gonna ask you, is offensive line
Speaker 1: play It's not what it used to be. But from
Speaker 1: your perspective as a group, is it harder to have
Speaker 1: consistency across the board now more than ever, just from
Speaker 1: a communication standpoint and what guys are seeing at the
Speaker 1: same time, and how the commune he came out there,
Speaker 1: and how they're rolling off the ball. And you know,
Speaker 1: I was fortunate to play with a great officer one
Speaker 1: coach of Sean Coogler, because with the Arizona Cardinals right now,
Speaker 1: I'm one of his things. He used to say, I
Speaker 1: don't want you guys thinking on Sunday. It's my job
Speaker 1: to get you to understand what you need to do
Speaker 1: for us. Sunday, but one Sunday, I just want you
Speaker 1: to be flying around, jumping out of your cleats. When
Speaker 1: you when you understand your your assignment and you understand
Speaker 1: the why and what you're trying to do, it's all
Speaker 1: that flow out of you naturally, and that's when your
Speaker 1: natural born talent is going to come out. And so
Speaker 1: that's what the goal as for me. I think every
Speaker 1: officer line coaches, how do I get this guy's natural
Speaker 1: talent to show every Sunday on top of what I
Speaker 1: need him to do every play and for him to
Speaker 1: execute at a high level. And if if I'm able
Speaker 1: to get guys to do that and perform and and
Speaker 1: have fun and smile, jump around and embrace the intimacy
Speaker 1: of being an office alignement, man, that's that's good football.
Speaker 1: I love it. Coach t Mike Tomlins in Pittsburgh, Dude,
Speaker 1: he has never had a losing season. Sure, what are
Speaker 1: the keys to consistency in this National Football League where
Speaker 1: you have that kind of sustained success? Because if you're
Speaker 1: a Jets fan right now, you're saying, we haven't been
Speaker 1: in the playoffs in eleven seasons, but things are starting
Speaker 1: to look good on the rising, we're starting to see
Speaker 1: things come together. How do you get to a point
Speaker 1: where it becomes consistent. Well, I think the first thing
Speaker 1: I always take away from my years with the Steelers
Speaker 1: was every guy was willing to compete each and every day. Um.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying that to be cliche, but
Speaker 1: it's true. And I tried when I got to the Jets,
Speaker 1: I try to get rexted kind of implement some of
Speaker 1: this even is it. Um was one of the I
Speaker 1: think the secret sauce was we never turned off the
Speaker 1: ability to compete. Meaning when we stepped in the locker room,
Speaker 1: we had a connect for table over here, we had
Speaker 1: a shuffleboard. It was we used to have tape on
Speaker 1: the floor and we just have like a makeshift basketball
Speaker 1: on the other side. You would see guys playing chess.
Speaker 1: Me give a moment. You saw guys competing, just going this,
Speaker 1: just playing something, doing something. Their mind frame was always
Speaker 1: in the mindset of competing. And then we had a
Speaker 1: back room guys who played cards or whatever. But we
Speaker 1: never stopped competing. So for us to go on the
Speaker 1: field and turn that on, it was just always on.
Speaker 1: It never was off, And so that was kind of
Speaker 1: the thread and makeup of my years of Pittsburgh. We
Speaker 1: never stopped competing. Even when we weren't in cleats, there
Speaker 1: was always some type of form competition. When it was
Speaker 1: silly and minute and kind of kiddish, we were still
Speaker 1: doing something. Even in the weight room who could lift.
Speaker 1: It was always something going on. And that just land
Speaker 1: for a culture of just we're always going to compete
Speaker 1: no matter what we did. And to fast forward. I
Speaker 1: everybody was extremely selfless. Nobody ran away from the challenge,
Speaker 1: whether whether it was a guy by the name of
Speaker 1: Ike Taylor going against Terrell Owners or Chato Sinkle. He
Speaker 1: never worked from right away from that challenge. That same
Speaker 1: thing when we did Rail Reeves was here and young
Speaker 1: young Reevers. He never he embraced it. Actually he called
Speaker 1: for it. And so when you have those type of
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room and it's spread throughout the
Speaker 1: locker room, when you say, hey, man, you know you
Speaker 1: know a B T. Youve got Aaron Donald's just all right,
Speaker 1: let's go, coach, let's go. Look all right, let's go.
Speaker 1: Those are the guys you need the locker room. Who
Speaker 1: you know this is? It is the conversation. There's guys
Speaker 1: who run into the building when the buildings on fire.
Speaker 1: And these guys who run away. I played with a
Speaker 1: lot of guys who are running into the building without
Speaker 1: their helmet, you know what I mean. They were just
Speaker 1: like they were just whatever the challenge, wherever the fire,
Speaker 1: whatever the smoke was, they were running to it. And
Speaker 1: that's and that and that's just a sense of urgency
Speaker 1: you have to breed. And I think with this team, Um,
Speaker 1: coach sale Um, I know his pedigreen, I know Joe
Speaker 1: d and how he rolls. Um. They're looking for those
Speaker 1: they're looking for those guys are running into the fire.
Speaker 1: You know, Salad's got a basketball hoop inside the auditorium
Speaker 1: right now. Really good competition periods. Let's break some time.
Speaker 1: Get somebody up here. One of your position groups, whether
Speaker 1: it's offensive defense, you can't turn it off. It's hard, man,
Speaker 1: because this game is fast, it's rough, as tough as brutal.
Speaker 1: Has a good lot of good, it has a lot
Speaker 1: of bad. But to be what you want to be,
Speaker 1: especially during the office, we're trying to train and you know,
Speaker 1: be this ultimate war you want to win at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. Bottom line, when they talk about
Speaker 1: winning doesn't matter. You know, you have guys that go
Speaker 1: all over the country, all over the world, and they're
Speaker 1: doing so many things to their body that taking all
Speaker 1: these supplements, they're trying to be the best athlete they
Speaker 1: can be. It doesn't matter. I play guys who look
Speaker 1: like you know, I play with guys who were built
Speaker 1: like a bag of laundry. But they kicked the tail
Speaker 1: on Sunday and they won. You know, so at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's about winning and and it
Speaker 1: starts and it starts with you to individ you knowing
Speaker 1: your job and they do your job, and also going
Speaker 1: out there flying around and having fun. What's that Wilson's
Speaker 1: next step? We saw last year ups and downs. Rookie
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gonna endure those no matter where you are
Speaker 1: at uh down the stretch, protected the football, really good athleticism.
Speaker 1: The guys talk about his a lad arm talent. I
Speaker 1: thought he took strides in the offseason just getting together
Speaker 1: with the guys, and I think that's got to resonate
Speaker 1: with you. The nationwide tour, going out throwing to Corey
Speaker 1: Davis and Nashville, going down to Florida with Burials, getting
Speaker 1: the guys together in Arizona and then finally in July.
Speaker 1: Even a couple of weeks before training can't throughout Idaho.
Speaker 1: But what's going on from your perspective? What do you
Speaker 1: want to see from him? You know, from me, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a pseudo golfer now, right, and one other
Speaker 1: problems I have. I look amazing in the driving range. Right.
Speaker 1: I can hit all every ball I want to hit
Speaker 1: with any iron I want to hit. But when I
Speaker 1: get on the course, I'm got off at times, and
Speaker 1: it's baffling, right, like why can't I turn? Why can't
Speaker 1: I transition? And I see Zach Wilson in the same way.
Speaker 1: It's easy to get the guys together, throw the ball,
Speaker 1: having camaraderie, look great, look apart, But what is game time?
Speaker 1: That's what all that matters. So for me, I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised about the arm talent, which, by the way, is
Speaker 1: I hate that saying because your quarterback you should have. Um.
Speaker 1: I know he's athletic, I know he can do anything
Speaker 1: he ever. I can know he can do anything and
Speaker 1: everything he wants to do with the football in the field.
Speaker 1: But for me, there's four or five, there's through the
Speaker 1: four five and it's in the game where you gotta
Speaker 1: be you gotta be it and that wins you the game.
Speaker 1: I need, I need. I need to see him be
Speaker 1: that guy knows four minutes and it's not all on him.
Speaker 1: Defense has played with all office. Line has to pet protect,
Speaker 1: one of the backs, have to show up from receivers
Speaker 1: have to be great. Um. But there's there's there's there's
Speaker 1: pivotal points in the game. I just want to see
Speaker 1: him be the guy that they drafted him to be
Speaker 1: because I everything that you just said, I know you
Speaker 1: could do that, and I think it's I don't even
Speaker 1: I don't even think about that. But great quarterbacks you
Speaker 1: look at the Joe Burrows, the Herbert There's there's pivotal
Speaker 1: points in the game where they just they just refused
Speaker 1: to lose and they make the right throws and they
Speaker 1: make it happen. I just need to be that guy.
Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to ask you. What changes
Speaker 1: for you when you see a guy as a teammate
Speaker 1: from your perspective, when you see a guy thrive in
Speaker 1: those situations, Well, like like while we started, it's a
Speaker 1: matter of maturation. He's maturing the game slowing down for him, um,
Speaker 1: not pressing, you know, And sometimes that happens when you
Speaker 1: feel like, well, if nobody else is gonna do it,
Speaker 1: I gotta do it. Big part of being a football player,
Speaker 1: especially when you play at a high level, is trusting
Speaker 1: the guys around you. Know you, no, no one guy
Speaker 1: wins the game, no one guy loses the game. Um.
Speaker 1: And he has to understand. And that's tough because he's
Speaker 1: he was brought hair to be the difference. He's brought
Speaker 1: to be the future. So when things get hot and heavy,
Speaker 1: you you want to automatically respond to it, but you
Speaker 1: learn that after a while. You gotta trust the guys
Speaker 1: around you to do their job, and you do your
Speaker 1: job and they do their job. Magic happens because on paper,
Speaker 1: the Jets should be in those positions right where we're
Speaker 1: seeing them more in close games this year. I don't
Speaker 1: care who they're playing, whether it's Baltimore in Week one,
Speaker 1: whether it's Cleveland week too well to see it, Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson's out there, whether it's Cincinnati coming back here in
Speaker 1: week three, and I can go on and on. You
Speaker 1: gotta go to Pittsburgh in Week four. But but if
Speaker 1: you look at the talent assembled on paper. The Jets
Speaker 1: roster is sweet, is not efficient in a lot of areas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really pay attention to who's on
Speaker 1: the roster. I pay attention to who has the will
Speaker 1: to win, who's gonna compete, because the hardest thing to
Speaker 1: do football is to compete, and the compete and match
Speaker 1: the intensity of your opponent all four quarters, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like everybody comes up the locker room spitting, fighting, swinging,
Speaker 1: flying around. First quarter, second quarter, maybe have it halftime,
Speaker 1: We'll see third quarter. You know, four quarter? Do you
Speaker 1: still have it and intend to go in and put
Speaker 1: your foot in the middle of the ring and bang
Speaker 1: it out. Good teams played quarterback quarter and they know
Speaker 1: how to just out of halftime and they know how
Speaker 1: to stay, keep that intensity, keep that fight in the
Speaker 1: second half. This team is gonna have to learn that.
Speaker 1: And we got allowed them to learn that right that
Speaker 1: the media we were just like, oh, I mean it
Speaker 1: was so good in the first half and the second Well,
Speaker 1: they're learning how to win. But you only learn how
Speaker 1: to win is by learning how to lose. Going back
Speaker 1: and say hey, this is where this is where we
Speaker 1: messed up at This is what we gotta do better.
Speaker 1: This is remember this moment. We gotta have that. You
Speaker 1: learned that along the way, and so we got allowed
Speaker 1: this team to do that, and but also understanding like, hey,
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of time in this league.
Speaker 1: I learned that when I retire is proud of it.
Speaker 1: It's stoney, it's it's proud of I'm extremely proud of
Speaker 1: my career. It's not a lot of time. You don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of time. So you did. The urgency
Speaker 1: to win has to be every Sunday. You know what,
Speaker 1: You still don't have a lot of time to You
Speaker 1: can be jumping on serious right now taping some interviews.
Speaker 1: We're going to continue to be watching you. So happy
Speaker 1: about the success you've had post career, not only not
Speaker 1: only career wise, but family wise, your baby. Thanks so much, Willie,
Speaker 1: it was great seeing you. Final prediction, Uh, Yankees gonna
Speaker 1: bring it home this year. I'm I'm I hope so man,
Speaker 1: it makes it's great business for me when they win
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Speaker 1: post even though we got some pre impost here but
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Speaker 1: I'm there, Um, catch me every morning at six nine
Speaker 1: am Monday through Friday. Matt Dog Sports morning man, having
Speaker 1: a great time with my car. We'll be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll bough you a beer. But you're doing a great YEA.
Speaker 1: Great to see you, but thanks