WEBVTT - A Conversation with Willie Colon (8/2) 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.600 We're presented by Win Bat betting. It's a team sport, 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:11.080 bat together when bat it is training camp, former Jets 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:17.560 offensive alignment, Willie Cologne in Hell. Yeah, man, look at 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.239 the new Well this is new for me. I haven't 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:20.840 been there in a while, so this is this studio 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.440 is amazing. So you made it. This is technically means 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:25.919 you made if you have your own studio, Man, nobody's 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.080 making it more than you. Right now, Can you tell 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:33.240 everybody who's followed your career, maybe from a football standpoint, 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.560 what you're doing in broadcasting, because you're blowing up. Well, 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:38.320 thank you, I appreciate it. I was with Barstool for 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.199 three years. I had fun there. I was doing barstood 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.720 Breakfast with my co host, Large McCarthy and the whole gang. 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.360 Uh left Barstool. Now I with Sirius XM. You can 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.839 catch me on Channel Lady too, Mad Dog Sports from 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.279 sixty nine AM with Evan Cohen and Mike bab Check 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.959 and we're talking about everything unneath the son morning Man. Yeah. Sports, 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.040 I'd like to say it's sports, uh sports show with 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.600 a bite. We get a little ackey, but it's fun. Yeah, 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.600 and you're and you're still gonna be fine on the 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:05.880 Jets throughout the season as well. Yeah, that's that's true. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.959 I'm on That's why you catch me doing the prim post, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.640 me and Bart Scott and Gelps who does an amazing job. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.040 And I'm just active. Man. I got two little babies. 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:15.319 I got a two year old, I got him one 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.399 year old, and uh, I was very active during the 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.800 pandemic to say the least. I got my sports bar 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.199 in the Bronx six or five Brooklyn Boulevard, Berkston Hops. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.480 That's my sports bar. So and on top of that, 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.040 my wife is doing reality TV right now, so I'm 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.400 we're moving and grooving. I'm all over the tail. What 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.280 is reality TV all about? From your perspective, man, it's 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.360 it's it's weird because you realize when you walk into it, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.960 at least trying to be entertaining and trying to be realistic. Um, 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.000 sometimes you just have to be you, which is not 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.920 hard for me. But at the same time, it's it's 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.360 very You're walking into a lot of confrontation. Yeah, and 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.280 sometimes it's cool, sometimes it's not. But it's entertainment and 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.680 we try to be entertaining as possible. So where can 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.360 we check that out. Yeah, it's it's on own the 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.080 first episode it's called Bell Collectives. My wife is, uh, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.520 she's one of the bells so to speak. Yeah, I'll 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.520 make a couple of pearances on there, and uh you 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.280 catch it on their own network, it will be there. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.560 I think. I think they're at eight o'clock. So, so 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.800 do you catch yourself watching a new reality television that 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.280 is not sports? Because I always had this argument with 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:22.120 my wife the only reality TV remaining is professional sports. Yeah, 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.200 I get into it. Like one of my favorite shows 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.280 that Below Deck right now. I love that, damn. I 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.320 mean you get to see great you know, exotic places 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.240 and in the storylines are pretty good, and I get 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.880 into it. Um, I was a traditionalist. I used to 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.120 watch the Jersey Shores and the car Dazzings for a 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.560 while and I'm kind of over that. And uh so 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.800 that's if there was one show that I actually watch, 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.400 uh is probably below Deck for a his reality TV 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.440 and Jersey Shore. It's still got to spend them off. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.200 They're still going right, like they all got kids, you know, 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.480 their kids got kids, and they're still you know, fist 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.560 pumping and uh causing the causing the Rucket. So they're 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.160 still at it. All right, So let's talk a little 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.400 Jets football. If you are back here at de dri 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.040 what do you think it's on the horizon for Robert 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.799 Sala and company as they start year two. Well, I'm 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.280 interested to find out where's this patience U where's this 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.919 patience level is at? And I say that from a 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.400 standpoint when you into a new job with a new 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.760 quarterback in the whole new regime and everything's kind of new, 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:22.720 you kind of just have to sit back and just 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.519 see what you have and let the team kind of 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.720 mature on its own. Now that the fact that had 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.000 I think personally, I've been on record as saying this, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.880 I think they probably probably had one of the best 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.800 drafts in franchise history as far as addressing need, adding 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.520 weapons um depth was huge. Um, I feel like they 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:46.200 just hit Joe Douglas and Robert Cosalid hit everything I thought. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.760 I thought they were a macclate and so now it's like, 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.960 all right, we know what we have, we know what 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.080 we can do. Where's where's my patients level? How long 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.240 am I going to accept things that I know we 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.240 should be doing better at this time? Or how long 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.840 am I gonna sit back and allowed his team to 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.880 kind of, you know, just kind of go through the emotions. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.360 Am I gonna be the coach to kind of really 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.760 crack the whip and lean on these guys? I can 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.000 tell you from my experience and this is mostly with 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.280 my time with the Pittsburgh Steelers. The more success we 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.080 had to previous year, the less patients might have coach 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.520 had because there was an expectation, there was a demand, 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.960 and there was a let level of everybody's gunning for you. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:24.600 So what are you gonna do about it? So we 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.479 we we were forced to have a lot more sharper 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.320 practices and we were forced to be a lot more 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.960 physical because that's the identity we we created, and it 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:35.640 led for us to have a lot of success and 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.120 go on to the playoffs and obviously championships. So I'm 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.159 wondering what the team, this team in particular, because you 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.040 do have the talent, you do have valid young talent. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.599 Where is his patience level at? You know, is he 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.520 gonna be like, all right, I I dealt with last year. 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.000 This year we we gotta go. And so is training 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.200 camp gonna be harder? Is he gonna be leading on 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.560 a lot more guys who have had a little long intitude, 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.080 who had experience um and where the level of execution 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.839 because there always has to be it always has to 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.240 be a demand like, oh, you want your team to 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.400 you know, you had checking points I feel as a coach, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.440 but where's your patience level at? And some a lot 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.240 of I realized the more success I had there was 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.560 it was lack of patience. Did you like being the 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.960 Hunter because you started with the Pittsburgh Steelers, of course 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.279 and you experienced so much success there. Then he came 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.200 here a little bit of a different situation where Rex 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.120 Ryan and company are saying, Hey, we're going after New 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.520 England Patriots and we ain't putting up with this. We 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.520 know you're the big bully, but we're here to fight. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.360 Well I was. That was mainly because of Rex's personality 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.840 and his attitude, and he was he was always kind 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.120 of a backyard browler brawler. And that's why he called. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:46.839 He got on the phone and called me because I 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:48.440 had played against him, not only when he was with 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.080 the Ravens, his time with the Jets, and so he 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.920 knew who I was. And when I got to New York, 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.920 it was just for me when I was coming home too, 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.680 I was gonna play alongside Nick Mangold and Brickshaw Ferguson 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.040 and on top of that, Wreck was gonna give me everything. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.640 And he did um and I was excited just to 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.920 play with him, and he delivered. Obviously, we didn't win 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:08.240 a lot of games. We kind of we went through 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.400 our little ups and downs. But I was excited to 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.600 play with him, in particular because of his mentality that 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.840 it doesn't matter who you are, We're gonna punch you 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.159 in the mouth. And I think that's a part of 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.160 just understanding that football, no matter what you draw up, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.760 no matter how you make it look pretty, it's all 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.080 about punching the guy in front of you and the 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.800 mouth and let him know that you're here for all 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.560 four quarters. What do you think about the Jets from 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.200 an offensive line perspective, because let's rely on your expertise. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.600 Here their number one target free ancy link in Thomlinson. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:42.040 They get familiar with the system. Elijah vera Tucker by 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.680 all kinds, I want to get your thoughts on him. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.600 Kind of recoverance back at the pivot, and then an 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.280 interesting situation of the tackle position right now with McCay 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.039 back then to George fantast Camp opens. Yeah. I had 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.200 an opportunity to talk to Fan a little bit at 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.000 the Gridiron Gallery. I think he was receiving award UM 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.919 and I got to chop it up just a little bit. Solid. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.400 He's a prose pro does a great job. I love 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.159 what he did with coming on the field, um for 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.040 the Jets and just competing. You know, there was so 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.000 much talk about beck then being out and when he's 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.160 gonna come back, and there was a whole another saga, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:13.920 you know, not saga, but there was a whole thing 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.000 going over here with Beckon. I think he ignored it. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.000 I think he just played football and he played well. 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.040 And you know, there's always gonna be that mantra of 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.800 being the office in line. When they don't talk about 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.360 you that that's how you know you had a good day. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.000 And for weeks we weren't talking about the Jets office 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:28.200 in line. We're talking about a lot of other things 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:29.480 that we're going wrong with the New York Jets, but 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.000 it wasn't that office in line, and that's a sign 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.480 of guys really jelling, communicating and playing well. Uh. And 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.240 so I liked the core they have. I think we 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.480 have a really really good office in line. Um. I 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.600 think we have office line that's gritty. The long as 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.680 they stayed together, I think A. B. T is obviously 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.600 the leader. He's he's the prize horse amongst the five. UM. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.840 I love Fan, I love Thomas and Lincoln Thompson because 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.720 I think his experience coming from he's a vet. He's 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.760 been there, done that, and he could be you know 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.760 whoever you if you're gonna put McKay at the right 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.440 tackle now, you give him a buffer. You give him 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.560 somebody he can lean on, trust and they can communicate 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.920 with and trust his experience. So I think what they 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.320 have right now is great. It doesn't matter. I'm staying 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.480 healthy one and continue to play together. What advice would 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:16.680 you give for Beckton because he's a young guy. Interesting 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.280 point in his career where he said, listen, I'm listening 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.000 to what the critics are saying right now, and that's 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.840 gonna add fuel to my fire. I'm always the thinking of, Hey, 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.680 whatever your motivation is, it don't matter. Just get out 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.280 there and do the best you can. Write. Yeah, I'm 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:36.600 a fan of having a pistol off football player that big. Seriously, 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.920 I mean I just walked out there. I didn't realize 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.000 my first time seeing him with my own eyes. Um, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.800 obviously I've watched him play, um, but physically, I mean, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.959 he's that's John, that's Johnathan often type size, like that's 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.360 generational type of heightened size. So um, I think you 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.720 just can't. I think sometimes as analysts or people who 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.640 cover football cover a team, we like to rush a 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:03.000 guy's maturation period. Necessarily, it doesn't mean it's happening. Like 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.320 we expect guys from the bottom from the neck down 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.800 to be key Man's in all world. Right, Well, the 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.000 kid is still young, he's still growing, believe it or not, right, 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.200 and then from the neck up he still has levels 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.440 to grow mature. So I'm I'm a fan of investing 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.360 in a guy as long as he's willing to invest 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.920 in himself and if you continue to have that type 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.040 of relationship, like I'm not giving up on you. I 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:23.720 don't care what injuries you have, I don't care what 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.320 the media says, I don't care what's going on around you. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.720 Just know. And this is me if I was an 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.240 office line coach, if I was coach Salah, I'm with you, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.559 Like ignore everything, because right now it's all about your 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.360 maturation and you're developing. Like he understands that he's a 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.959 high draft pick. He understands that he's he was built, 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.920 he was brought here to be kind of uh franchise 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.000 staple or a key factor for this organization. But you 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.960 still can't rush his maturation period. He is who he 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.920 is and you have to develop him. You still have 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.439 to keep his confidence high, and you still have to 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.480 understand like everything you want to train change about yourself 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.640 from the neck up and the neck down is in 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.520 your You have the ability to do so, but you 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.160 gotta be committed to that. So I'm I'm a fan 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.679 of him. I like him, um part of me when 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.960 I see him. I know he trains with a good 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.760 guy out in Texas, Duke Maryweather, who's a big officer 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.120 line google guy. Um, so he's in good hands. In 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.760 the offseason, I would love to work with him and 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.120 talk to him. Um. Yeah, because you don't have enough time. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.720 I don't have enough time. But I I'm a fan 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.439 of office in line player, not just because I'm a 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.880 former officer a linement, because I just know a lot 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.679 of times the details is not necessarily from the neck 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.679 down is from the neck up, just seeing how the 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.760 guy understand the guy's perspective, how he understands what he's 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.800 doing out there, what he's seeing, and then being able 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.960 to slow a guy's mind down because so much time. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.480 And you know, one thing I loved about Nick Nick 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.839 actually died at our communication because he was just so 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.320 into him with the offense. So we we understood what 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.160 he was talking about, how he went about his job. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:46.720 So a lot of times when we walked up to 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.640 the line, he would make a call making and we 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.000 were just were bombed all the same accord. Well you 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.120 don't have Nick, man goes not out there, right, And 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.960 so how do you now and and it is not 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.080 no shot acono mc government, But how do you now 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.679 talk to guys who one all learned differently, all come 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.400 from different walks of lives and and and taking knowledge 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.560 and understand things differently. How do you get them on 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.440 the same accords by taking them individually and seeing what 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:14.520 they're seeing so you can make those directions and and um, yeah, 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.360 that's just just my that's just my. Would you be 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.840 interested getting in coaching down the line? Man? My wife 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.400 talks to me about that because I'm a ball haug man. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.160 I just love being around the game. I don't know, Um, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:28.840 what kind of feelings do you get when you just 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.240 rolled the facility. When I walked in, the first thing 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.160 I looked for was the was the cafeteria. That's what 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.679 I was hungry. Uh No, I don't know. I love 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.760 the game, man, and I love it for me, It's 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.480 just a matter of you know, what role would I play? Um? 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.520 I love the day to day just working with guys. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.640 You know, I'm from the old school. I'm I'm I'm 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.199 used to being on the field. You know, back in 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.200 the day. People don't remember. You know, we were We 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.120 were in the building by before St. Patty's Day, and 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.520 you were on the field doing lineman drills, and you 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.880 were working technique, and you were doing you working flexibility, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.360 you're working angles, you're working. You were doing so much. 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:05.640 When you got to me, it felt like you went 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.280 through a season. You know, you had went through so much, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.679 but yet it just made your level of play execution 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.920 so much better because you just you were just a 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:18.040 part of it every day. Um, these guys are not 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:19.319 on the field as much as they used to be, 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.800 and I think the game reflects that UM and the 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.920 office line players up and down. The guys who actually 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.040 think play better. UM more guys who just are able 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.280 to play longer just because they have the time and 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.000 the reps. And to be to do anything, you have 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.200 to have a lot of reps. But particularly the offseason, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.520 it matters for office a linement because you gotta slow 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.560 you gotta slow the brain down, and the brain has 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.400 to match what you're trying to do physically. That's so 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.000 that's where I was gonna ask you, is offensive line 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:47.600 play It's not what it used to be. But from 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.880 your perspective as a group, is it harder to have 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:55.400 consistency across the board now more than ever, just from 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.800 a communication standpoint and what guys are seeing at the 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.640 same time, and how the commune he came out there, 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.600 and how they're rolling off the ball. And you know, 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.600 I was fortunate to play with a great officer one 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.640 coach of Sean Coogler, because with the Arizona Cardinals right now, 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.600 I'm one of his things. He used to say, I 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.480 don't want you guys thinking on Sunday. It's my job 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:13.920 to get you to understand what you need to do 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:15.520 for us. Sunday, but one Sunday, I just want you 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.880 to be flying around, jumping out of your cleats. When 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.280 you when you understand your your assignment and you understand 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.560 the why and what you're trying to do, it's all 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.200 that flow out of you naturally, and that's when your 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.240 natural born talent is going to come out. And so 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.720 that's what the goal as for me. I think every 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.280 officer line coaches, how do I get this guy's natural 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.760 talent to show every Sunday on top of what I 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.480 need him to do every play and for him to 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.200 execute at a high level. And if if I'm able 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.559 to get guys to do that and perform and and 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.640 have fun and smile, jump around and embrace the intimacy 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.520 of being an office alignement, man, that's that's good football. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:56.040 I love it. Coach t Mike Tomlins in Pittsburgh, Dude, 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.760 he has never had a losing season. Sure, what are 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.720 the keys to consistency in this National Football League where 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.400 you have that kind of sustained success? Because if you're 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.920 a Jets fan right now, you're saying, we haven't been 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.360 in the playoffs in eleven seasons, but things are starting 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.559 to look good on the rising, we're starting to see 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.840 things come together. How do you get to a point 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.360 where it becomes consistent. Well, I think the first thing 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.720 I always take away from my years with the Steelers 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.680 was every guy was willing to compete each and every day. Um. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.840 And I'm not just saying that to be cliche, but 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.840 it's true. And I tried when I got to the Jets, 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.320 I try to get rexted kind of implement some of 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:42.280 this even is it. Um was one of the I 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.520 think the secret sauce was we never turned off the 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.000 ability to compete. Meaning when we stepped in the locker room, 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.760 we had a connect for table over here, we had 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.960 a shuffleboard. It was we used to have tape on 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.320 the floor and we just have like a makeshift basketball 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.920 on the other side. You would see guys playing chess. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.000 Me give a moment. You saw guys competing, just going this, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.640 just playing something, doing something. Their mind frame was always 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.560 in the mindset of competing. And then we had a 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.600 back room guys who played cards or whatever. But we 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.600 never stopped competing. So for us to go on the 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.160 field and turn that on, it was just always on. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.960 It never was off, And so that was kind of 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.720 the thread and makeup of my years of Pittsburgh. We 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.040 never stopped competing. Even when we weren't in cleats, there 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.440 was always some type of form competition. When it was 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.480 silly and minute and kind of kiddish, we were still 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.120 doing something. Even in the weight room who could lift. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.560 It was always something going on. And that just land 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.880 for a culture of just we're always going to compete 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:40.280 no matter what we did. And to fast forward. I 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:45.160 everybody was extremely selfless. Nobody ran away from the challenge, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.240 whether whether it was a guy by the name of 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.480 Ike Taylor going against Terrell Owners or Chato Sinkle. He 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.240 never worked from right away from that challenge. That same 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.000 thing when we did Rail Reeves was here and young 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.040 young Reevers. He never he embraced it. Actually he called 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.560 for it. And so when you have those type of 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.680 guys in the locker room and it's spread throughout the 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.960 locker room, when you say, hey, man, you know you 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.920 know a B T. Youve got Aaron Donald's just all right, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.880 let's go, coach, let's go. Look all right, let's go. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:14.560 Those are the guys you need the locker room. Who 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.280 you know this is? It is the conversation. There's guys 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.360 who run into the building when the buildings on fire. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.200 And these guys who run away. I played with a 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.280 lot of guys who are running into the building without 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.000 their helmet, you know what I mean. They were just 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.840 like they were just whatever the challenge, wherever the fire, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.440 whatever the smoke was, they were running to it. And 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.440 that's and that and that's just a sense of urgency 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.440 you have to breed. And I think with this team, Um, 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.840 coach sale Um, I know his pedigreen, I know Joe 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.720 d and how he rolls. Um. They're looking for those 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.480 they're looking for those guys are running into the fire. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.680 You know, Salad's got a basketball hoop inside the auditorium 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.680 right now. Really good competition periods. Let's break some time. 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.680 Get somebody up here. One of your position groups, whether 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.760 it's offensive defense, you can't turn it off. It's hard, man, 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:59.120 because this game is fast, it's rough, as tough as brutal. 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:00.720 Has a good lot of good, it has a lot 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.440 of bad. But to be what you want to be, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.479 especially during the office, we're trying to train and you know, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.560 be this ultimate war you want to win at the 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.960 end of the day. Bottom line, when they talk about 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.639 winning doesn't matter. You know, you have guys that go 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.560 all over the country, all over the world, and they're 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.639 doing so many things to their body that taking all 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.560 these supplements, they're trying to be the best athlete they 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.120 can be. It doesn't matter. I play guys who look 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.120 like you know, I play with guys who were built 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:25.720 like a bag of laundry. But they kicked the tail 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.639 on Sunday and they won. You know, so at the 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.760 end of the day, it's about winning and and it 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.160 starts and it starts with you to individ you knowing 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.439 your job and they do your job, and also going 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.680 out there flying around and having fun. What's that Wilson's 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:42.560 next step? We saw last year ups and downs. Rookie 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.880 quarterbacks are gonna endure those no matter where you are 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:51.120 at uh down the stretch, protected the football, really good athleticism. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.000 The guys talk about his a lad arm talent. I 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.560 thought he took strides in the offseason just getting together 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.040 with the guys, and I think that's got to resonate 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.639 with you. The nationwide tour, going out throwing to Corey 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.399 Davis and Nashville, going down to Florida with Burials, getting 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.119 the guys together in Arizona and then finally in July. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.000 Even a couple of weeks before training can't throughout Idaho. 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.080 But what's going on from your perspective? What do you 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:17.800 want to see from him? You know, from me, I'm 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.600