1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: And here's the craziest thing we could possibly say to you. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: You have to forgive him. That's what I was just 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: about to say. You have to forgive him. And I've 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: said this before and I'll say it again because it's 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: worth repeating. But sometimes with something like forgiveness of something 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: that of this magnitude, we have to say it and 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: preach it to ourselves before our heart absorbs it. What's up, guys, 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast Exciting News. Today, we have 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Bernie back guest. I haven't had a guest in a 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: long time. It's been just me, but we got long 11 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: time as Bernie Calcote back. We've been friends for twenty 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: five years. He's been on this podcast eighty five thousand 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: times and he has really built He's built so much 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: of what this podcast has become. In the early days. Yeah, 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: well you started it in the early days on the bus, Yeah, 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: in the in the in the Reformation. So basically we 17 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: answer your questions if you're new to the podcast, we 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: answer your questions. Like we're sitting on you know, in 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: the pickup truck and it's me and Bernie and you're 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: in the back seat and you go, hey, guys, could 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: I run something by something been going on in my life? 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: And then we walk through it in long form and 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: we answer your question without notes and without preparation. We 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: just give you friend advice. And Bernie is one of 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: the best friend advisors that I have, and we do this. 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: We still do it. We've talked about it many times 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: on this podcast, and we still do it to this day. 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: When we have something going on in our lives, one 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: of us will call each other and be like, hey man, 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: can you talk And when we say that, we have 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: to kind of schedule it because we're going to talk 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: for an hour. So it's never like what's up, man, 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: how's it going, It's going good? How about you going good? 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: Kay bye? It's like, hey man, maybe later on we 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: actually get on the phone because we're going to talk 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: for an hour. Oh and it's so good though, man, 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: those deep, deep friendships and everything that comes with them, Man, 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: it's such a blessing. So I agree. Well, we're gonna 39 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: answer your questions. If you have one, email Grangersmith Podcast 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. We'll get right to it, and 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: not just if you have a question, because wouldn't it 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: be awesome Griz to one time open your email and 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: start reading and somebody is like, not, hey, they broke 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: up with me or they died, But man, I listened 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: to you guys, and then this wonderful thing inspired me. 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: And what you know, I just wanted you to encourage 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: you guys. You'd be like, yes, that's good. Yeah, give 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: us some you longtime listeners. Give us some stories on 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: maybe something that's changed in your life because of a 50 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: podcast episode. That would be really cool. Yeah. Encouragement is great, 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: you know. We sometimes you need it whenever you're getting 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: into some of these really dark places with people which 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: you are really good at, like sitting with them, holding 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: the space to like really dig into it. But I 55 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: think it's good every once in a while to hear like, 56 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: oh yeah, man, this is this is impacting people in 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: a really special way. So I hear back. Occasionally, I 58 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: hear back from people that I answer a question for 59 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: and they'll say, hey, I applied this and here's what happened. 60 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: But I would also like to hear from people that 61 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: have never emailed but used something from someone else's question 62 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: and listen apply to their life. It's interesting. Hey, maybe 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: even I'm not talking about just positive, maybe something negative like, Hey, 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I tried it and it would failed miserably. That would help. 65 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: That would help. Let's get right to the first question. 66 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: The subject line says broken heart by ex husband from 67 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: nasty divorce. Please help me. I am lost, so broken. 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: I divorced my first husband that I was married to 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: for seventeen years in nineteen ninety nine. We had three daughters. 70 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: He treated me like a maid, not a wife. I 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: had no he was just not a nice person. I 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: lost who I was. I just found out six months 73 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: ago that he told my mom that our youngest daughter, 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: who is thirty five, is not his, that I had 75 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: an affair with our neighbor, which is a complete lie. 76 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: I never cheated on him. He also told several of 77 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: our friends this same story, and my mother knew that 78 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: was a lie, but she didn't not defend me. He 79 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: told this back in two thousand and seven. I can't 80 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: let it go because he constantly lies about me and 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: posts things about me on Facebook. I felt like I 82 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: should confront him. I could no longer take it. He 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: is remarried in two thousand and three, and I was 84 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: remarried in two thousand and eight, but unfortunately, he took 85 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: his life in twenty sixteen due to PTSD from the army, 86 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: which I also suffer from. Please help me. I'm on 87 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: my own, Melissa. A lot of stuff here, Wow, a 88 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. So we're no longer like starting off 89 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: with the light ones in order. I've been gone for 90 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: a while. We're just like it. I don't prep these, 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't read ahead on what I'm about to say, 92 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: so it's just going to fall out. So Melissa, thank 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: you for emailing you. You do have a lot of 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: stuff going on, and I'm so sorry. What I want 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: to deal with too, is your first question. Your very 96 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: first question said please help me. I'm so lost and 97 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: so broken, and then your last sentence says, please help me. 98 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm on my own. So Bernie and I are going 99 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: to tell you right now, you're not alone here. Me 100 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: and me and Bernie are listening to you. We're going 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: to talk through this. But there's also a lot of people, 102 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: a lot of people that are going through something maybe 103 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: not exactly the same, but they're going through similar things. 104 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of nasty divorces, there's a lot of lies, 105 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who have lost a loved 106 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: one through suicide, and so you are not alone in 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: your situation. And that's part of what this podcast does 108 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. I think I think ninety 109 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of people don't email me. They 110 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: just listen, and they listen so that they could acknowledge 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: that they're not alone in their problems. Because we have 112 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: a tendency as humans to think I'm just this. No 113 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: one else has it as bad as I do. No 114 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: one else is in this dark hole that I'm in, 115 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: And that's just not true. And also, didn't she say 116 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: she remarried, Yes, she remarried, but he took his life. 117 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: Oh okay, her current Yeah, her second husband, second husband, Okay, 118 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: I thought she was referring to the first one. Okay, 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: so the first one is still out there telling lies 120 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: that their daughter is what came from an affair, right, Okay, Man, Melissa, 121 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: this is really heavy. Let's start with this. Let's start 122 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: with this. I can't let it go because he instantly 123 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: lies about me and post things about me on Facebook. 124 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: Let's start with Facebook. Me and you love that subject, Well, 125 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: first of all, block him. Let's go ahead and do that. 126 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: It's not gonna it's not gonna fix everything, but it's 127 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: gonna fix you seeing it, so it's not going to 128 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: stop him from lying, which you can't and no one can't. 129 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: We can't control other people. We can only control ourselves 130 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: and how we react to them. So we're gonna block 131 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: him on Facebook first so you're not seeing it. And 132 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: then when other people come up and say, did you 133 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: see what your ex posted about you? You go you 134 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: just look him straight in the eye and say, oh, no, 135 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: I blocked him. I don't. I don't follow what he 136 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: says because it's usually a lie done. Yeah. The other 137 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: thing that you could do, probably in your mental state. 138 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: And I say this with like all humility, and I'm 139 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: not condemning you know, anybody for your choices or whatnot, 140 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: but you could get off of social media altogether because 141 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: then when that person says, did you read what he 142 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: said about you? You could be like, actually, I didn't, 143 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: and I don't really care to know. I'm not on 144 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: social media. Because it sounds like Melissa, you need to 145 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: be focused on some healing and connecting with people that 146 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: are with you in real life and not kind of 147 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: going into that whole of you know, fantasy and not 148 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: reality of things that everybody's doing. They're painting like you said, 149 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: they use car salesman like, they're all painting these pictures 150 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: of the best versions of themselves. And it's probably weighing 151 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: on you emotionally, even whether you know it or not. 152 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: In light of your ex posting this stuff, I mean, 153 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: and it sounds like you're struggling with PTSD. You've got 154 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: a lot of emotional work. It sounds like that you 155 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: need to do. I would probably do an inventory. It's 156 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: not just social media, do an inventory of your life. 157 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: Because the way to our heart, it's just through our minds, 158 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: and the way to our minds is through our eyes 159 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: and our ears. So what are you watching, what are 160 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: you looking at, what are you listening to? And how 161 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: are those things getting into your brain seeping down into 162 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: your heart. We need to maybe clear out some of 163 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: the stuff that's not healthy and just really try to 164 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: like zone in on some things that are. Yeah, that's great. 165 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: Here's another crazy twist for you, Melissa. I believe you 166 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't think you would you would 167 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: have a reason to email me and lie about this 168 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: supposed affair. But let's just throw this out there. What 169 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: if you did, like, what if what if it was 170 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: an affair that you had your son with. Well, I'm 171 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: not talking about the relationship with your son, but I'm 172 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: talking about the relationship with everyone else that was thirty 173 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: five years ago. Anyway, no one is the same as 174 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: they were at thirty five years ago. So you're looking 175 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: at it like that's you today right now, like a 176 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: mistake that you made today is affecting you. But it's 177 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: thirty five years ago and it's a lie. But you're 178 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: living it like it's happening in your face today in 179 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: this moment, and it really shouldn't affect you at all, 180 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: something that happened that long ago. Anyone that knows your 181 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: ex husband knows that he's a deceiver. They know what 182 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: kind of guy is. They know that you were treated 183 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: like a maid and not like a wife, that you 184 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: had no voice. You got to let that go. And 185 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: here's the craziest thing we could possibly say to you. 186 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: You have to forgive him. That's what I was just 187 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: about to say. You have to forgive him. And I've 188 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: said this before and I'll say it again because it's 189 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: worth repeating. But sometimes with something like forgiveness of something 190 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: of this magnitude, we have to say it and preach 191 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: it to ourselves before our heart absorbs it. So we 192 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: say it with our mouth and we just say, you 193 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: know what. And you could even tell the next person 194 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: that comes up to you and says, did you hear 195 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: about the lie that you're ex? Husband said, you could 196 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: look them right in the face. And just like Bernie said, 197 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: I love his answer. First of all, a first part 198 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: of the answer is no, I didn't, and I don't 199 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: really care to know. And the second part of your 200 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: answer is, but I forgive them, Like wow, what an 201 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: impact that would make on the person that's spreading gossip 202 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: and stirring you up. And you go, but I forgive him. 203 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: He's human and we went through a lot of stuff 204 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: together and he's not totally to blame with everything. I 205 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: wasn't the perfect person either, but I have over the 206 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: years I have forgiven him. Now, your heart might be 207 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: screaming in that moment, no I don't, No, I don't, No, 208 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: I don't, But your mouth is saying it, and you 209 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: keep preaching it back to your heart over and over. Yeah, 210 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: I think it's good to separate forgiveness and reconciliation and healing, 211 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: so that, like Grangeer is saying, saying that out loud 212 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: and really preaching that to yourself and forgiving him and 213 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: maybe forgiving him again, just embodying that idea of forgiveness, 214 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: like I am really forgiving him as I've been forgiven. 215 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: So let's not forget that part and let that weigh 216 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: on your mind even heavier than what he's doing is. Like, Man, 217 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: I have been forgiven, so the only natural thing for 218 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: me to do is extend that same forgiveness. But that 219 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: doesn't remove the hurt and the pain and damage of 220 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: everything that he's done immediately. It doesn't work that way. 221 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: Like healing of the heart and reconciliation or healing or 222 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: anything like that definitely takes time. And that's why I 223 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: would say, if you're not already seeing a counselor of 224 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: some kind or a therapist or I highly recommend it 225 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: to everybody who's listening, because we all need that counsel. 226 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: We all need somebody appointing us in encouraging us and 227 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: guiding us. But for you, Melissa, I would definitely say, 228 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: if we're talking just practical things, I'm lost. You need 229 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: a guide. The Word of God can definitely be your guide, 230 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: and it's going to point you to forgiveness and then 231 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: also couple that with somebody of sound mind and wise 232 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: counsel to just help you kind of process some of 233 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: the hurt that has happened over the years. I love it. 234 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: I love what he said about separating forgiveness with reconciliation, 235 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: and a way to look at that just at a 236 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: surface level would be the way that you would forgive 237 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: a rattlesnake. It's like, I, dude, I got bit by 238 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: a rattlesnake. But I forgive the snake because that's the 239 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: snake's nature is to bite when it's when it feels threatened, 240 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: and it bit me as a reaction of the threat 241 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: that it thought I was. So I forgive the snake 242 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: for its nature of what it is. But I'm not 243 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: going to go stick in my hand in holes anymore. Right, 244 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch myself when I'm around rocks in Texas 245 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: because there's rattlesnakes and they will bite. So you're not 246 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: going to take your ex husband out to dinner and say, hey, 247 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: meals on me. You know, you're not going to stick 248 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: your hand in holes. But you could still forgive him 249 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: for his nature and for what he is, and love 250 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: him for what he is, because you were broken just 251 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: like him in your own way and we all are. 252 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: So forgive him and love him and get off social media. Yeah, 253 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: and don't perpetuate the gossip that's coming to you when 254 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: people want to stir you up, because they know that 255 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: you're the kind of person that can get stirred up. 256 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: And they said, do you hear about your ex? You 257 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: hear what he's saying about your boy from thirty five 258 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: years ago? Don't extend that conversation at all, kill it 259 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: right then, say no, I didn't. In fact, anything he 260 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: says wouldn't surprise me at this point, but I have 261 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: forgiven him. There's nothing else to say. Yeah, the person's like, okay, 262 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about something else else. Yeah. Yeah, And your 263 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: kindness is going to go a long long way for sure. 264 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: So all right, let's move on. Let's hit another one. 265 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: This subject line is letting go of the past. At 266 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: Grand Drum twenty far'd like to remain anonymous. My boyfriend 267 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: and I have been dating for about two and a 268 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: half years, with a six month break in the middle. 269 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: We got back together and after we both grew on 270 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: our own and he came back after we realized we 271 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: couldn't stand being a part and loved each other too 272 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: much to be with anyone else. We tried dating other 273 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: people with while we were apart, and it's something that 274 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: we have worked on together to move forward. However, I 275 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: still find it really hard sometimes when stuff gets brought up, 276 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: like around friends about girls that he slept with, and 277 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: it's always a joke, but recently it came out that 278 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: while we were on break, there were two other girls 279 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: he slept with that he forgot to mention or to 280 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: tell me about when we got back together. He is 281 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: a he hey he had this is funny. He has 282 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: a large body count. Okay, I think I know what 283 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: you're saying. He has a large body count where I 284 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: have chosen to wait till marriage and he has always 285 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: respected that. So I guess my question is how do 286 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: I let these things that were in the past go, 287 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: even though it still really hurts my heart every time 288 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: I hear about things like this. Thank you Anonymous twenty 289 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: four dated for two and a half years, six month break, 290 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: got back together. He slept with girls in the break. 291 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: You realize that you were meant for each other, so 292 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: you got back together. You are waiting till marriage. Okay, 293 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpack here. But if you're with 294 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: me in the truck right now, I would say, why 295 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: did you get back with Why did you get back 296 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: with him? Like? What is he bringing to you? You 297 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: guys have very different morals. They're going two different directions, 298 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: and so it's really hard to recognized the reconcile these 299 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: two very different moral standards and bring them back together 300 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: and then expect things to be normal. And that's why 301 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: they're not. We say about this brand, Yeah, I'm this 302 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: one brings up a lot of questions that I would 303 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: have for anonymous, like how did you find out? What 304 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: was that conversation? Like was it I think on the 305 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: last podcast you talked about the guy that went to 306 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: the church conference and felt this conviction and went to 307 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: his wife to confess these things, and she emailed me back. 308 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: By the way she did, she said that this was 309 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: really hard love, but I needed it. You dish out 310 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: some hard love sometimes, Am I right? Guys? But it's 311 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: all good man? Yeah? Just what I mean? How did 312 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: they get back together? What did he say? Was it 313 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: like he got busted? Or is there any kind of 314 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: spiritual conviction here? Is there any like, you know, commitment 315 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: to their faith together in this relationship, without really knowing 316 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: those things just at face value. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, 317 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: face value, this was a rebound. Yeah, you rebounded to him. 318 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: You're saying, six months break, you got back together because 319 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: we realized we couldn't stand being a part and loved 320 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: each other too much. Okay, well that's it. That's not 321 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: enough time. Six months is not enough time for you 322 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, I'm cool, I'm good, I'm over it. Yeah, 323 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: yeah I would, I would say, I don't. I don't 324 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: know if I would invest any further in their relationship. 325 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm saying the same thing. Yeah, And again, 326 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: like we don't know one hundred percent of the context. 327 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: You could email us back and be like, no, well 328 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: here's you know whatever. But it just sounds like he's 329 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: he's got some things probably to work out. And I mean, yeah, 330 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: you sound sometimes on TikTok people say this guy only 331 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: tells people just to break up. But the slightest thing. 332 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So now I'm hesitant because of TikTok. I'm 333 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: hesitant to say dump him. Yeah, but that's kind of 334 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Anonymous, like you're friends, I would just 335 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: say dump him. And I know it's hard. It's called heartbreak, 336 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: and of course it's hard. You got six months, you 337 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: tried to recover. It wasn't enough. You loved him. Two 338 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: and a half years is a long time, and it's 339 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: also a long time to save yourself for marriage with 340 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't saved hisself for marriage. So you're 341 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: expecting a lot from this guy. Well, and if she 342 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: she's twenty four and she's been saving herself for marriage, 343 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: So it sounds like there's some kind of like conviction 344 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: in her heart somewhere to that, yeah, right, which which 345 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: makes me believe like, okay, maybe she is a Christian. 346 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: Maybe she believes in, you know, having sex with your 347 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: white or with your husband or wife. And it doesn't 348 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: sound like this guy has the same you know, like whatever, 349 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: do what you want, but it doesn't sound like he 350 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: has the same values. And Matt brings up more problems 351 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: down the road, more problems down the road. And I 352 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: know you may be thinking, man, I'm twenty four. A 353 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: lot of people are starting to talk about getting engaged, 354 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: and I don't want to get old. And yeah, dude, 355 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: you're still young. Yeah, you're still young, and you need 356 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: to be treated and respected and valued and pursued and 357 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: adored for the person that you are and love the 358 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: way that Jesus loves you, not the way that this 359 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: dude's doing. So yeah, I say dumping. Let's take a break, 360 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: beer right back. 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Okay, back to the podcast. Let's get let's 409 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: hit the next question here. Subject line says, why do 410 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: I feel hungry thirsty for more? Hey Granger, Tim again, 411 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: thanks for you. I guess I guess you emailed before. 412 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: Thanks brother, this he said this time has an internal 413 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: search question. I grew up in the church, confession of faith, 414 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: baptized the whole bit, I joined the army and even 415 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: had a Christian music show while I was overseas for 416 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: almost a year. I know who I am in Christ 417 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: and have never stopped believing. While I know church attendants 418 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: is not required for salvation, I also know that keeping 419 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: the company of believers helps sharpen your faith. With that said, 420 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: over the last few years, attendance has been fewer and 421 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: fewer in my faith, while not fleeting has been challenged. 422 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: And now you have entered my life versus an entertainer. 423 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: Now as a brother, I am binge listening to the 424 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: podcast like my soul cannot get enough, even though I've 425 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: heard some of it before. I'm just trying to understand 426 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: why now, why am I so craving his message? If 427 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: it's a God thing and his timing, I could accept 428 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: and roll with it. Thanks and God blessed Tim. So 429 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: this is this kind of goes to your first thing 430 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: you said in the first break about let's get a 431 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: let's get someone that says what the podcast has done. Yeah, 432 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: so Tim, awesome, Tim bro. What you're feeling is absolutely 433 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: normal and absolutely a necessity in your walk right now. 434 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: And this is an interesting thing that Bernie I can 435 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: talk about. We talk about it a lot together off camera. 436 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: We could talk about what's happening to you, and it's 437 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: called a rebirth. And this is the danger that I 438 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: should bring up. This is the danger of American Christianity 439 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: growing up in church, confession of faith, baptized, the whole bit, 440 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: those are your words, and there's a false sense of 441 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: security of salvation in that. So tons of people, tons 442 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: of people grew up in church in America. They gave 443 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: the confession of faith in church, whether it was in 444 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: confirmation class or with a pastor, or at an altar call, 445 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: or with an elder or in a small group. They 446 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: were baptized, and that could have all happened in the 447 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: baptism as well. And then you walk away and you 448 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: think I'm good. I have a false sense of security, 449 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, I accept Jesus. I call this dog tag 450 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: Christianity because in World War Two, when when they made 451 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: the dog tags, they would ask for your religion, so 452 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: that if you died, they would they knew what kind 453 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: of priest to bring to your funeral. And so it 454 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: said Christian on your dog tag, and so much of us, 455 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: so many of us walk around with dog tags that 456 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: say Christian. But we don't really live anything more than that. 457 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: We don't have a craving at all. And when you 458 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: are saved, truly, when you're reborn, which is all God. 459 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Salvation is all a force from God, not us. We 460 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: can respond to it, and that is the mystery of 461 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: salvation includes us responding to the Gospel. It's responding to 462 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: the call, responding to the choosing, but the active force 463 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: that begins this is always God. One of the first 464 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: things we could see as a result of this sow 465 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: the true salvation that you're talking about, Tim. One of 466 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: the first things we see is a craving, a thirst, 467 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: a hunger for more. We also see a high conviction 468 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: of sin. So's it's a false representation of Christianity to 469 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: think that we go on sinless. Jesus says, go sin 470 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: no more. But we take that to the extreme and 471 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: think sometimes that Christians don't sin, but we do. But 472 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: the difference is the ones that are saved have a 473 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: higher conviction of it. It's like we hate it, we 474 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: do it, we regret it, we want to repent for it, 475 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: we want to apologize for it, we want to move on, 476 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: we don't want to go back to it. And that 477 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: goes right along. And I guarantee you didn't say it, Tim, 478 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: but I guarantee you you're also feeling that. That's an 479 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: other thing you're feeling right now. And so this craving 480 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: that you're having, this hunger, this thirst, this when you're 481 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: away from the body of church of the church and 482 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: you want to go back to church and you just 483 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: crave it. You it's like Sunday and you're like, I 484 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: don't care what I got going on, I don't care 485 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: what NFL team is playing. I gotta go to church. 486 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: I got to be around other believers. Like you said 487 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: in your email, I need to read the Word, like 488 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: I just I got to open this Bible and see 489 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: what he says, Like what is God saying to me today? 490 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: So I open it up and I'm like, God, this 491 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: is the Word of God, and I can't stop until 492 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: I see where he finishes all. This is a really 493 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: great sign and it's totally natural. So I would say, welcome. Yeah, 494 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: I think that you've you're growing up sounds very similar 495 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: to mine. And I'm guessing that you have probably heard 496 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: a lot of narrative about kind of this dog tag 497 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: Christianity or what a Christian is. But then all of 498 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: a sudden that paradigm's kind of being flipped around, right, 499 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: You're starting to hear some things that are like wait 500 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: a second, yeah, and then the spirit's kind of opening 501 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: your heart to understand, open your eyes to understand, like 502 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: oh okay, there's that those moments where you're like, oh, 503 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: my goodness. And so I would just encourage you to 504 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: keep digging in. Man, it just gets better and better. 505 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: It gets harder and harder and more like it'll stretch you. 506 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, being a disciple of Jesus is one of 507 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: the hardest things that you can think of. Being a 508 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: dog tag Christian's pretty easy, pretty easy, pretty easy. But 509 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: giving your life away, like putting yourself behind others, giving 510 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: away your wealth, being generous, being humble, restraint from your 511 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, worldly desires like those yeah it's to die 512 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: is gain? Uh, These things are very very difficult. So 513 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: I would just encourage you to keep keep pushing in 514 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: to all the things, whether it's this podcast, your time, 515 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: and the word. You're gonna definitely need some brothers and 516 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: some sisters that you can lock arms with, be encouraged by, 517 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: and that you can then pour into when they need it, 518 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: because we're all human and we need that encouragement. But 519 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: I think you've probably heard something in Granger's voice, and 520 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I love you know, Grizzy's been my friend 521 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: for a long time, but I don't think it's him. 522 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: I think it's the Holy Spirit that did a work 523 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: in him, and now that's starting to come out and 524 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: people are starting to hear it and be like, man, 525 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: what is that. That's a different word than I've heard before, 526 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: and I gotta go. I got to go read more 527 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: about that. I got to figure out what that is. 528 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh, I got more of it. 529 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: I got more of it. I need more of it. 530 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: So it's not him, it's not this podcast, but it's 531 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: the words that are coming out of it that I think, 532 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: and those words are available every morning to you. So 533 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: if for all the other tim to you, i'd say 534 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: welcome for everyone else that's listening. And if you say 535 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: that you're a Christian, but you're thinking to yourself, I 536 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: don't thirst at all. I don't hunger at all, I 537 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: would say gently and lovingly, that's a red flag. I 538 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: would say why why are you not? And I would 539 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: want to dig into that. Okay. I posted this yesterday 540 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: on Twitter and it's a revelation twenty one six. It 541 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: says it is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, 542 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: the beginning and the end to the thirsty. I will 543 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: give from the spring of the water of life without payment. 544 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: And so I would say, are you thirsty? Why are 545 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: you not thirsty? Because that's the only requirement we have 546 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: in this passage here is to be thirsty. So why 547 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: are you not? Yeah, and if you're not, like you 548 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: need to just desperately pray because God will hear and 549 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: he will respond if we go to him in desperation, 550 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: and maybe you're just in a season where you're not 551 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: feeling that. I think that's what he wants, is us 552 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: to just go to him in prayer and just God, 553 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't feel you. I don't feel this desire, but 554 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: I want it. Where is it? Can you respond? Can 555 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: you respond? And God is always, it seems like in scripture, 556 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: very slow to respond to what we think. It's like 557 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: so long, but then all at once, And so just 558 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: be faithful and diligent in that. Absolutely, let's move on here. 559 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: Next question says, are we gonna be able to do 560 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: this with the clock tickets? Yeah? You want me to 561 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: give some weird problems going on in the room right now, dude, 562 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: I'll just take it. Hey, well, no, let's try something new. Okay. 563 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: You were going to read the question for the first time, Okay, 564 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get rid of this clock that's tiken. 565 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Okay, addiction getting in the way of my 566 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: relationship with God. Hey Granger, my name is Josh and 567 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: I am eighteen. I have a porn addiction. I have 568 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: tried to quit in the past, but I fall short. 569 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: Every time I tried to quit. This has been eating 570 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: at me and makes me feel horrible. I've tried praying 571 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: about it and asking God to help me, but nothing 572 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: seems to work, and I always go back. What can 573 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: I do to quit my addiction and grow my relationship 574 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: with God? I love this question because I actually have, 575 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: unlike some other questions, I actually have a some systematic 576 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: things you could do right now. So, first of all, Josh, bro, 577 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: you're not alone, right, not alone? There are so many people, 578 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: most of them that don't admit it, that are dealing 579 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: with this. Okay, So so bro, you I'm so I'm 580 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: so happy, I'm so pleased that you had the courage 581 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: to email me about this. And I just want to 582 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: stand with you for a moment in that and just 583 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: say you have a lot of courage to admit this 584 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: and to bring it into light and to stop. You 585 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: don't want to walk in the dark anymore. You want 586 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: to walk in the light, and you're bringing this to 587 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: the light. And luckily I have some I have some 588 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: pretty good systematic things I have for you. And at eighteen, 589 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: let me just say, yeah, like at eighteen, to be 590 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: able to recognize the damage that this can cause in 591 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: your future and to be vulnerable enough to put it 592 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: out there now and say, like, I know, this isn't 593 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: the life God has for me, and I want something better. Todd, 594 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: That's awesome, Josh, good jobs. Absolutely so, Josh, what I'm 595 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: about to tell you is very difficult to do. It's 596 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: easy for me to tell you it's very difficult to do. 597 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: But because of your email, it sounds like you're in 598 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: a desperate situation where you're willing to do something difficult. Okay, 599 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: so I would I would wonder how desperate are you? 600 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: Because this is tough. But there is a website called 601 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: covenantiyes dot com and Pastor Chad told me about this, 602 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: and Pastor Chad has used this with a lot of 603 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: different counseling sessions that he's done. So Covenant Eyes and 604 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: we talked about this at t forg ME and you 605 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: Chad at dinner. Covenant Eyes is a website where you 606 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: you inter I'm so sorry, I can still here that 607 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: clock that I'll put outside, Okay, so you you enter 608 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: your information from your computer and your phone and your 609 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: iPad and it it recognizes your ip address and then 610 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: it shares it monitor where you go and what you search. 611 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: This is a problem I get. I get a friend 612 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: of mine on the podcast and he starts laughing at me. 613 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Josh. The clock that usually sits here that 614 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: tells the time. There's the clock I have on the 615 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: table that I use for this podcast that monitors how 616 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: long I go. It counts up. It's a counter. And 617 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: it started first it started flashing, so while we were talking, 618 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: it was flashing at us. And so during the break 619 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: I took it outside and like plugged it into the 620 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: charge in a reset and I was like, cool, I'm good. 621 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 1: Now it started flashing again. Then it started clicking. Now 622 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: it's actually chiming, and I go to hear it in 623 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: the other room, chiming, all right, we're gonna get it back, Josh. 624 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. This is a very serious subject. Attacked 625 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: by the enemy. Right now. You know that this is 626 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: an attack by the enemy because it doesn't want me 627 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: to tell Josh this truth Reset Reset Covenant, eyes dot 628 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: com or org one of the two google it Coven 629 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: and Eyes. It takes your information and it will monitor 630 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: your online searching so that whenever you go to a 631 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: porn site, it will send that IP that activity to 632 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: whoever you tell it to send to. So it could 633 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: be your mother. I would suggest putting it as your mom, yes, 634 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: or your dad or both, so your mom will get 635 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: an email that says, Josh visited this website at this 636 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: time and there's nothing you could do to stop it 637 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: once you sign up. So that's what I say. Okay, 638 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: So that's when I say this is very difficult because 639 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: you're going to have to be so strong because when 640 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: you do it, you don't want to go through that 641 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: embarrassment of Mom seeing what you just looked at. Yeah, 642 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: but if you're talking about habit correction, like you have 643 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: to have like extreme consequences or some kind of repercussions 644 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: or else your habits are just going to go back 645 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: if it's like, oh, you know, it's sent an email 646 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: to my buddy who also struggles with the same thing, 647 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: so we don't even pay attention to it anymore. No, 648 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: there has to be some rewiring of your brain a 649 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: little bit, and this can definitely help. So, Bro, Hey, Josh, 650 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: do me a favor if you have courage, and I 651 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: think you do because you email me. If you have 652 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: enough courage to sign up for Covenant Eyes, message me 653 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: back and just say, hey, man, I did it. I'm 654 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: signed up because I just want to know that you 655 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: did it. So I'm going to be over this next 656 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: week after the podcast comes out. I'm going to be 657 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: waiting for your email, Joshua Reese. Okay, I want to 658 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: hear back from you, bro, because I got your back 659 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: and I think it's so important and I love you, man, 660 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: and I'm so I'm so pleased that you have the 661 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: courage to email me. Okay, let's do this together and 662 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: you and not just Josh, but any dude out there, 663 00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: because this is a very destructive habit and addiction. It's 664 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: so destructive and there are resources out there to help 665 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: navigate through it, not just covering eyes, but also like 666 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: getting connected to a group of godly men that can 667 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: you help keep you accountable and remind you of the 668 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: things that God's word, that God's Word says, and also 669 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: continue to just sit in God's word. Let that be 670 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: the thing that is going in your eyes and your 671 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: ears and getting into your mind and going down to 672 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: your heart like you're almost like trying to flush out 673 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: that addiction with God's word. Just preaching to yourself all 674 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: the time, all the time. So anybody out there that 675 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: is wrestling with this, I definitely recommend what Granger's talking about. Yeah, 676 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: if you guys have a question for me, Grangersmith Podcast 677 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com would love to hear from you. 678 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: Could be about any subject. As Bernie and I have 679 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: proved today, we do not cut up this podcast once 680 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: we start it. We're rolling so bloopers and all you're 681 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: going to see. I don't even stop the podcast to 682 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: take the beeping clock out of the room. But I 683 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: love you guys, I love this platform, and I love 684 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: this dude burns back at you, man, Thanks for being here. 685 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: Good to be back all next Monday. Thanks for joining 686 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: me on the Granger Smith Podcast. I appreciate all of 687 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: you guys. You could help me out by rating this 688 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: podcast on iTunes. If you're on YouTube, subscribe to this channel, 689 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: hit that little like button and notification spell so that 690 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: you never miss anytime I upload a video. If you 691 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: have a question for me that you would like me 692 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: to answer, email Grangersmith Podcast at gmail dot com. Yie