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Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. It's Ashley

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Speaker 1: and I am the solo host today with my guests

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Speaker 1: Kaylin Miller Keys Welcome. Thanks for being here always. You're

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Speaker 1: such a good constant in our lives. Well, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. Well, we haven't talked to you since you

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Speaker 1: and Dean got engaged. I know that you've given specifics

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Speaker 1: of the engagement on Dean and Jared's podcast Help I

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Speaker 1: Suck a Dating just to ironic that the two of

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Speaker 1: them are now in very committed relationships, but they still

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Speaker 1: suck a dating. And let me tell you, Jared does

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Speaker 1: suck a dating because we barely go on dates and he's, Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time he did anything romantic

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Speaker 1: for me. Now I'm gonna this is how I'm starting

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Speaker 1: it off. Um, he used to be so romantic and

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Speaker 1: that's how, like I guess, life goes. But how has

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Speaker 1: Dean been romantically since you guys got together to now?

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Speaker 1: Had there been any has has there been any shifts?

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Speaker 1: Has he been romantic? Yeah? I think he's more romantic

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Speaker 1: than me. Um, which I wasn't expecting. But I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: if you can hear that. That's his motorcycle he's taking off.

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Speaker 1: Uh he Yeah. The start of the relationship, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I was like more, not more into it, but

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Speaker 1: like more romantic. I guess it's just the best way

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Speaker 1: to put it. And then slowly he became more open

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Speaker 1: and more vulnerable with his feelings and everything, and now

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Speaker 1: he's suddenly the more romantic one. Oh that's so cute.

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Speaker 1: What was the last romantic thing he did besides proposed

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Speaker 1: to you, because we'll get into that very soon. The

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Speaker 1: last romantic thing, well, at Thanksgiving we did like what

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Speaker 1: are you thinkful for? And then you just said the

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Speaker 1: sweet thing about how he is excited to marry me

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Speaker 1: and spend the rest of my life, spend of the

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Speaker 1: rest of his life with me. So that was sweet.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like romantic gesture wise, When he's done,

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Speaker 1: then yeah, see Jared says romantic thing. He says like

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Speaker 1: kind loving things like that all the time. He's really

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Speaker 1: good with words of affirmation. But like, I'm like, almost

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Speaker 1: the last time you just did something because you know,

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Speaker 1: just surprising with flowers, I don't know, I know Dean

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Speaker 1: does not understand flowers, and I think he's gotten me

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Speaker 1: flowers once in three and a half years. They're so nice.

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Speaker 1: What would you what would be your ideal like romantic

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Speaker 1: gesture gift from him? Um, Actually, he just bought me

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Speaker 1: this five ft tall gnome, which I'm like obsessed with

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Speaker 1: holiday gnomes, so I'm looking at it right now. He

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Speaker 1: like he does little things like that where he'll surprise

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Speaker 1: like flowers will be nice to come home to every

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Speaker 1: once in a while. I get. I get how guys

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Speaker 1: think about flowers though, you know, they think they die,

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Speaker 1: and you know, what's the point. I think the gnome

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Speaker 1: is actually way more romantic because it's very personal five ft.

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Speaker 1: I just let if that's romantic, then my gesture was

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Speaker 1: romantic as well. We were at home depot looking for

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Speaker 1: fake Christmas trees and Jared saw a nine foot grinch,

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Speaker 1: he loves cheesy holiday decor for outside. It's like that's

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Speaker 1: what his dad was into, like plastic things and blow

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Speaker 1: up things. And I'm like, this is so embarrassing. No,

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Speaker 1: but this was so like I'm still like a reverence

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Speaker 1: see you eye belong that get it, satisfy your little

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Speaker 1: your Christmas elf self and and do it. So I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it'll be blown up in the front yard later

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Speaker 1: this week. I'll get a good laugh out of it. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we could talk more about this later when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about holiday traditions, because we're gonna do a little bonus

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Speaker 1: podcast about our holiday traditions and favorite things. So right now,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to dig a little bit deeper and of

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Speaker 1: course into the engagement. So my thought is that you guys,

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Speaker 1: it's like, wasn't a surprise to you at all? Am

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Speaker 1: I wrong? Um? It was. I always thought he was

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Speaker 1: so then I was like, I guess he's not proposing.

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Speaker 1: end of the year, but losing the ring really threw

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Speaker 1: I thought he would wait until he found it. But

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Speaker 1: to be a proposal because you even went and picked

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Speaker 1: out your ring. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's been sitting

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Speaker 1: and it's obviously not been lost. Now for those who

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Speaker 1: Dean actually lost the engagement ring that he was in

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Speaker 1: the first place resistant to get for Kaylin because he

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Speaker 1: didn't want to spend money on a ring. You know,

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Speaker 1: Dean a little a little hippie dippy kind of thought

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Speaker 1: that it was superficial and not worth not worth it,

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Speaker 1: you know, but you really wanted the ring that you wanted,

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Speaker 1: and he ended up I don't want to say caving,

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Speaker 1: but seeing your side, yes, seeing my guess, seeing my side.

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Speaker 1: We had so many conversations about it. He doesn't understand

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Speaker 1: doesn't understand how things can cost so much. So he's like,

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Speaker 1: so much. So it just about like using him into

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Speaker 1: things and like starting small and then getting a little bigger.

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Speaker 1: Was there anything about you guys splitting the costs of

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Speaker 1: the ring? I just wanted to buy it because I

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Speaker 1: knew he didn't want to buy it, And I was like,

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Speaker 1: wearing the ring every day of my life. So I

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't think it's right that you should

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Speaker 1: pay for it. And then we came to the compromise

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Speaker 1: that I would buy him a track and he would

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Speaker 1: buy me engagement ring. That's sweet. Were they on par? Price? Was? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's paying off theirs. That's so nice. So the ring

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Speaker 1: you had been eyeing for a while, when did you

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Speaker 1: then it was purchased by a jeweler and they were like,

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Speaker 1: then he's like, no, I want to buy it from

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Speaker 1: going to have my jeweler make it into a ring.

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Speaker 1: And I'm standing in front of the door and Dean's like, no,

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Speaker 1: And then oh wait, how how did you put a

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Speaker 1: so you found the stone that you really liked, and

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Speaker 1: then the jeweler was going to put the stone on

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Speaker 1: the setting, but he was insisted on one particular or Julia.

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Speaker 1: Was he going to get a little bargain. No, I

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Speaker 1: don't know who it was. I don't think he was

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Speaker 1: had been talking about this for months. I was like,

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Speaker 1: And then once I'm there, I like flew it safely

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Speaker 1: do with the design. Did you have the design laid

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Speaker 1: out exactly how you wanted it? Very particular? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But then I was excited about that. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I think it's more romantic now, right, Surprised when I

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Speaker 1: see it for the first year, Right, So I get that,

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Speaker 1: Why wasn't in a drunk drawer in the kitchen just

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Speaker 1: a safe and some something. Well, that's why I'm confused

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Speaker 1: where he bought it from, because that's how he purchased it.

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Speaker 1: and then I kept hinting like, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: And he asked me to stop pressure him to get

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Speaker 1: then confused where it was. Kaylin, I can't get over this.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm even more mind boggled as to how

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Speaker 1: didn't know it was in that drawer, and you saw

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Speaker 1: How did it actually just disappear? It's so weird, and

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Speaker 1: we spent hours and hours. We have a camera at

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Speaker 1: and trying to figure out when he took it, because

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't take it. It's not I have nowhere to

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Speaker 1: put it and nothing to do with it. If I did,

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Speaker 1: I would put it right back. And we cannot find

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Speaker 1: when he moved it, So I don't know. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even sure that ring I guess like ring insurance is

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Speaker 1: not even a thing because it wasn't a real ring

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Speaker 1: yet you wouldn't have had it ensured, so you just

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Speaker 1: like thousands of dollars down the toilet. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 1: been spending all day today working on his motorcycle and like,

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Speaker 1: which you interview reality stars about crimes that they've gone through.

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Speaker 1: I was able to listen to the first episode, like

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Speaker 1: in person, when Ben Higgins discussed his hilarious encounter with

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Speaker 1: cocaine um in Miami as a teenager, and it's all

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Speaker 1: caught on like the show Cops or is it Cops

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Speaker 1: and something like that, and he has the most like

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Speaker 1: non Ben Higgins sign off. You have to listen just

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Speaker 1: for the quote that you can somehow find on the

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Speaker 1: internet out there of Ben Higgens Ben Higgins saying something

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Speaker 1: that is so not Ben Higgins. But anyway, Kalen, it's

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Speaker 1: your podcast, explain how handled and some of your special

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Speaker 1: guests so far. Yeah. So Ben Higgins was the very

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Speaker 1: first guest, and it couldn't have been better because, like

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Speaker 1: Ashley said, it was just such a non Ben's story. Um.

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Speaker 1: And so there are like some funny crime stories, but

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Speaker 1: then there are also serious stories. Um, we covered a murder,

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Speaker 1: and we this week we covered Graham Bund came on

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Speaker 1: and we talked about the Vegas shooting. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: like lighthearted sometimes and heavier other times. And I think

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Speaker 1: this week was amazing. This is the first time Graham

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Speaker 1: has ever talked about being in the Vegas shooting. He

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Speaker 1: was on stage when it happened and on stage, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was like side stage, so he was on stage

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Speaker 1: and he just like really went into detail, talked about

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Speaker 1: how he escaped and then he came back to try

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Speaker 1: and find his friend and really really really heartbreaking. Um.

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Speaker 1: And It's it's been interesting to just talk to so

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Speaker 1: many different people. I also talked to um Tara Newell

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Speaker 1: just some crazy story podcasts. Oh he didn't. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I had just watched you know the you know, the

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is the same

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Speaker 1: speaking of wedding planning, I have a great place to

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Speaker 1: Calin Alright, Well, Caitlin, you are rocking that as host,

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Speaker 1: and I want everybody to go check it out. It's

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Speaker 1: true crime reality and you can get it wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Calin, thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us and giving us all those details. Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see you soon. I guess we'll sign

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Speaker 1: off the way that I were supposed to sign off.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Remember how we do it? Until next time.

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Speaker 1: I've been Ashley. I've been follow the Benn and Ashley

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