1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. They explain to me why it's g R 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: because it's an abbreviation for how yellow is spelled in German. 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, great, I'm working on a submarine with miss 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: mats wiring diagrams, and it came into wire colors. Right, 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, the bad would be positive? Correct, Okay, 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: that would be the fame on positive ground are right? 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Well now the older tractors are positive. Right now, you've 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: got me. Welcome to the radio home of Ron and 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Nian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: five five five six and now he monny boy, I'll 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: tell you what I can tell. There's gonna be a 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: busy hour. I can tell just by looking at the 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: by the long list of phone calls. Let me see 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: a lot of tom real quick, Mr Ray, We're we're 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: in a rock and roll this hour, and we've been 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: busy this week. We're in a rock and roll, Bob 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: and stroll and pump some wattage into the cottage. Well 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: I like that kind of talk. Let's go to Andy 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Then, oh, one Monte Carlo and see what's 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: going on here. Andy. Welcome to the car doctor. How 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: can we help hi there, Ronnie. So I have this 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and one Monte Carlo that is convinced occasionally 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: that I'm trying to steal it. There's a security module 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: and when I put the key in the ignition uh 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: and try to turn it, you get absolutely nothing, and 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: the idiot light flashes security security. Um. There's a couple 31 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: of different ways to try to work around it that 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: are not permanent or are inconvenient, including bypassing and having 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: a tagle switch. But often I find myself just sitting 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: there for fifteen minutes until it's convinced I'm not trying 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: to steal it. So that's something you've encountered before. It's 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: a pretty frequent problem, I guess with these Monte Carlos. Well, 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: it's pretty it's a pretty common thing with with vehicle 38 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: theft to turn v d ts. GM called it back 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands and that they will do that, 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: and you know we're dealing with a twenty two year 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: old vehicle. I don't think anybody's gonna steal it at 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: this point. I don't think anybody wants it, you know, 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: So it's it's how do we disable it now? I've 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: I haven't read for that exact vehicle, but there are 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: some situations. There are some companies out there that are 46 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: manufacturing bypass kits that allow you it's a it's as 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: professional as it gets. I guess where they're going to 48 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: disconnect the plug down to the base of the steering column. 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: The one of the ones I've seen that will disconnect 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: the key back at the base of the steering or 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: plug at the base of the steering column, and it 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: will plug in a resistor pack that recognizes UM and 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: then you have to relearn it to that particular programming 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: in the BCM so that it realizes what you're trying 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: to do. UM. This could have anything from a bad 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: ignition switch to you know, the past lack sensor itself. 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: You know. Do you have any sort of a scan 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: tool andy that you can go in and read fault 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: codes in the body computer? I do not, but I 60 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: can probably have one, you know, I would, I would 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: go and look at i'd scan the body computer for 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: security faults. What sort of information does it show? This 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: is in other words, this is going into a no 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: crank condition in the security light flash is correct? Yeah, okay, 65 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: it's it's a total radio silence. So it's gonna set 66 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: a fault code of six P sixtine two or something 67 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: along those lines. Um, uh, that's gonna tell us, you know, 68 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's seeing improper signal. And if I 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: remember my wiring from twenty two years ago or twenty 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: one years ago, it's it's a pretty simple circuit. It's 71 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: two wires coming down out of the column. They feed 72 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: the BCM, they tell it that hey, it's Andy with 73 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: the right key, and Andy's trying to start it, and 74 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: then it grants security access to the PCM and says, 75 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: go ahead, enable the starter. If you look at the 76 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: wiring diagram, you would see that the PCM, the powertrain 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: control module, has authorization over starter and enable and that's 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: what let's the engine crank and then start subsequently. So uh, 79 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: you know this is a case of what's actually causing 80 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: it because you can also go through and and this 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: is why I think you have to do this, you 82 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: could go through the pain of bypassing the security system, 83 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: put the plug in module in place so that it 84 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: always thinks it's andy and it's the right key and 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: so forth, and then you'll find out, depending upon the 86 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: fault code, it's a B C M, it's the body computer. 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: And how do you know? You don't know until you 88 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: gather more information. So before you change it, it's you've 89 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: at least got to go through some sort of of 90 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: a of a diagnostic procedure. Just don't eliminate the steps. 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: We're still back to the same thing. Tell me what's good. 92 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: I can tell you what's bad. You know, it'd be 93 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: great if you could catch it in the act, and 94 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, catch it in that moment when it doesn't 95 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: crank and see what is it missing? And you know, 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: make a determination from there. Does the car have tilt wheel? Okay? 97 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: The next i'im and happy do you use the tilt wheel? 98 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: You know what? I don't think I have maybe once 99 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: or twice. Isn't that funny? Okay? So the next time 100 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: it happens, take the tilt wheel and change position on 101 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: it a couple of times, violently, not violently. I don't 102 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: want you to hurt it or you. But you know, 103 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: it's the idea that it's well, yeah, just be be, 104 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: be a little bit more of it than you know, 105 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: give it a swift kick in the pants, so to speak, 106 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: and see if that shocks it. And then that tells 107 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: you the problem is likely a wiring issue in the column, 108 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: because usually what happens is the there are two very 109 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: fine I think of piano wire, all right, or just 110 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: a very fine gauge wire coming off the base of 111 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: the ignition lock cylinder that ran down the column. You know, 112 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: if if most automotive wiring is fourteen and sixteen gauge, 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: this is probably twenty two. This is real fine stuff. 114 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: And you know why they would make this, you know, 115 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: the the guard and to allow the vehicle to start 116 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: boggles my mind because you know, tiny wires, what do 117 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: they tend to do. They tend to get brittle like 118 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: everything else, and over time and they'll break off from 119 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: road vibration and have their issues. Um, what I've seen 120 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: is the tilt columns sometimes changing position. Will you know, 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: as you move the column up and down, it will 122 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: tend to tug on the wire inside the column, depending 123 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: upon how it's position and it might reconnect it, reposition it, 124 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: allowing the vehicle to start. It could also break the 125 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: wire off completely, but at least then you know where 126 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: the problem is. Right, Um, you know, you you you can. 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: But I have seen more people get out of trouble 128 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: by using the tilt column method at least being able 129 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: to diagnose it than anything else. So you know, you 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: can kind of take that route and go from there. 131 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, a good scan tool will definitely help you, 132 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: giving you the ability if you're going to look at 133 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: body computer what's it's seeing, because the body computer has 134 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: authority on that system as far as uh, you know, 135 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: control over the VTD the vehicle theft to turn system. 136 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yes, indeed, both suggestions are great. 137 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: The bottom line is we don't have authority anymore. Now 138 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: we don't, and you know, to me, you know, it's 139 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: it's one of these days. If if, if if I 140 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: had another hundred years, I'd probably designed my own automobile. 141 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: And one of the things I would make do is 142 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: I would make it so that after vehicles five years old, 143 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: the wheelocks would fall off, because nobody wants wheels that 144 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: are five years old anymore. And the anti theft system 145 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: would go away after you know, six or seven years, 146 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: because nobody wants a seven year old car anymore. And 147 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: it just costs the consumer. It just costs the consumer money, 148 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: and it it pushes you, you know, pushes them into 149 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: a into another vehicle. And you know, I I say 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: this all the time. I don't want to be repetitive 151 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: and get on my horse. But you know, an automobile 152 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: was meant to be transportation in most most cases, if 153 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: you've got the pocketbook and you want to make it 154 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: a lifestyle, great, But most people just want to get 155 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: back and forth to work and move their family around. 156 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: And that's that's probably why I still do the show 157 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: after three year. But that a great suggestion about the 158 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: tilt wheel. That may that's gonna be an interesting little 159 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: experiment to cont So I'll give you something to do, 160 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: all right, don't do that, call me back, let me 161 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: know what happens. Thanks, Rinny, we'll do You're welcome, be well, um, 162 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: be well, Ronnie. I don't think anybody's called me Ronnie 163 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: since my mom and I was six. That's all right, 164 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: I'll let it go. Let's go over to is that 165 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: Baxter in Rochester, New York or six hond to see 166 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: or let's see what's going on here? Baxter. Welcome to 167 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? I don't know, man, 168 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: trying to find out what's with this wheel? Proude of 169 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: my guy? Okay, what's it doing the same like with 170 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: the swerve? Uh to avoid like a piehole or something. 171 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: The tires started bouncing on the song. I don't hit 172 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: the piehole, but just the swerve and action it seems 173 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: like it'll started vibray and bouncing something. So no I'm 174 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: not I'm not outside to see what the tie do 175 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: it right? So I can feel it? So has anybody? 176 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Has anybody you know done just a basic good solid 177 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: front end check? They say, they'd say claim they sayed 178 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: to see the joint the acts though rather the barings packed. 179 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: The barings would re grease them, but they still do it. Well, 180 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: there's no there's no bearings to repack on this car. 181 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Well they must have got me for some money then, right, yeah, 182 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: because if they if they're charging it for a bearing repack, brother, 183 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: they're stealing. So it's time to find another mechanic. But 184 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: there's no bearings to repack. Their sealed units mounted in 185 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: the hubs so yeah, yeah, how many would make it? 186 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: What would make the tires star vibrating and bouncing? Like 187 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: if you're honest to move street bad strut, Warren cake, 188 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: Warren control arm bushings, the steering racks moving loose on 189 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: its mount. If there's oil leaks and the steering rack 190 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: bushings are worn out or soft, it will definitely cause 191 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: an oscillation like you're describing. So I'm more listen. What 192 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: you've got your problem is is resolvable. I'm more concerned 193 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: you're going to a repair shop that sold you a 194 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: wheelbearing repack on a vehicle that's got sealed wheelbearings that Yeah, 195 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: how how long? How long have been using this shop? 196 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: I just found him like Valentine's Week. I don't, I don't. 197 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they're expressing any of your way, Baxter. 198 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: I think it's time to find another shop. Dexter. See 199 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: Tom's Tom's missed writing things. Thank you. Um, I think 200 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: it's time to find another shop. Kid him all right, 201 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: me too, But this is the problem. Yeah, I've been 202 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: dealing with him and uh I went back to him 203 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: after somebody started as catalytic converter and he put something 204 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: in my car. Something back in there, and it's like 205 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: they're telling me it's all wrong. So I don't know 206 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: what to do about that. Either said, I just let 207 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: it go or do something different. Inside Well, I think 208 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: what you really should do, all right, I think what 209 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: should really do is start over with another shop. I 210 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: don't think i'd go back there. Listen if they're doing, 211 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: if they're doing the farious things, and it sounds like 212 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: they're misleading you from your description. I think you've got 213 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: to find another shop, get an opinion, get a vehicle appraisal, 214 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: what kind of shapes the vehicle in, what's what does 215 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: it need? What are they doing, what have they done? 216 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: And get something in writing. I would go find another shop, 217 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: have them put an hour of time in, pay them 218 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: for their hour, vehicle evaluation. This part was installed, it's wrong, 219 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: this part was installed. Uh you know it's or this 220 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: part is bad, and then go back and talk to 221 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: another repair shop. I don't think you're gonna get anywhere, 222 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna end up walking away from them, 223 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: But at least you try the process one step at 224 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: a time. Do that. Call me back if you need more. 225 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I'm running any of the card doctor, 226 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: We're back right if this don't go away when you 227 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: get keep Ron's number hand eight five five five zero 228 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. For when you really need advice on 229 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: your car, here's Rob. You know, Henry Ford once said 230 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: that he would give you the car for free because 231 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: two years afterwards the parts are falling off so fast 232 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: you need a wheelbarrel behind it to pick him up. 233 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: Because that's just the way cars are. It's the nature 234 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: of the beast at the mechanical machine. And he knew 235 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: parts were the future, right, parts were the necessary evil 236 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: that had to exist in order for the car to exist. 237 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Bob Right sent up on Facebook and I'm just looking 238 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: at the message he just sent me. Hey, Ron, we 239 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: talked a couple of weeks ago regarding the type of 240 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: parts to start accumulating from my O to Firebird before 241 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: they come obsolete and unavailable. My question is would buying 242 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: these parts described as new old stock have an actual 243 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: shelf life. I'm just wondering if hoses, for example, which 244 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: have been sitting on the shelf at Rock Auto for years, 245 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: have already exceeded their life expectancy. Any feedback has appreciated, 246 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: Bob from Yonkers, you know what Bob, It's sort of 247 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: depends on how were they stored. Yeah, certain things will 248 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: have a shelf life. I mean, there's no doubt about it. 249 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: And rubber does break down just from sitting and just 250 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: from aging. It will get brittle. It depends on how 251 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: it's and where it's, where it's stored, you know. And 252 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: again what kind of part break parts, break rotors, hard 253 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, metal parts, things like that. Obviously you're gonna 254 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: hope that you're gonna get these things still stored in 255 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: their original boxes, and you know, they'll be wrapped in 256 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: some kind of cosmoline paper, have some sort of protective 257 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: coading over them that will allow, if they're properly stored, 258 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: for them to exist for years. Uh. You know, I've 259 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: got at the house, My basement sort of looks like 260 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: a GM parts warehouse that you know, I've got sections 261 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: of the furnace room and I tend to put things 262 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: near the furnace that they stay warm and the dampness 263 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: of the basement doesn't doesn't bother them, and that um, 264 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have a damp basement anyway. But 265 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: you just worry about it that they're always warm, they're 266 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: always out of weather, they're always in the right spot 267 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: that I will put more sensitive things closer to the 268 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: furnace to keep it warm and keep it dry. Um, 269 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: but I'll keep break rotors in their original boxes, break pads, 270 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: things like that, rubber parts. Yeah, there is gonna be 271 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: a shelf life to it. But what are the choices. 272 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: It's it's a two thousand two automobile. It's now twenty 273 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: years old, so you know, you want to try and 274 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: find things that are maybe five six years old, so 275 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: that you've got another five six years to go, and 276 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: then after that, you know, think of it like this. 277 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: If you've got an original part, if it happens to 278 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: degrade to the point where it's not usable, at least 279 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: you have something to work from to send out to 280 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: a vendor or a supplier to say, hey, can you 281 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: build me one of these? Can you make it look 282 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: like this? All right? And and that's always a perk 283 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: because part of the problem is sometimes in the world 284 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: of the aftermarket, depending upon the component and the vendor 285 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: and the vehicle and so many other extenuating circumstances, part 286 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: of the problem is they will redesign it, and that 287 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: redesign will become the norm Uh, you know, it's revisionist 288 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: parts suppliers, as I like to think of it, and 289 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: that becomes an issue. So at least if you have 290 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: an original piece and original part, you've never got something 291 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: somebody can make a copy of. But I think for 292 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: the majority of things non rubber related, a C compressor, 293 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: fuel pump, module, water pumps, I think if they're stored properly, 294 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: I think they've got quite a long shelf life because 295 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: the manufacturers know that not all these parts are going 296 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: to be used right away. Personally, I think a lot 297 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: of the parts on vehicles today and have been for 298 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: a very long time, UM, tend to be you know, 299 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: design that, hey, we're gonna make the vehicle, we make 300 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: the product run, and then we're gonna make a parts run, 301 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: and we may not make parts for five or six 302 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: years or longer, and parts are left, you know, sitting 303 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: on shelves in storage somewhere, and you know they go 304 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: from there. Listen, I've gotten some things. One of the 305 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: tricks I will use, and I will share this with 306 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: all of you, is if I'm working on a GM product, 307 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: for example, you can go right to the Delco warehouse. Um, 308 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: you have to have a supplier that has a direct 309 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: tie to a C Delco, for example, and the way 310 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: a C Delco does distribution, what I've seen is they 311 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: will distribute locally and then it will go back to 312 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: a regional warehouse, and then it will be pulled back 313 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: to the national warehouse, and then it will be pulled 314 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: back to ops the oppositation or about to go obsolutely, 315 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: I'll say it like that warehouse. So there's a series 316 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: of stages as they pull things back. I've gotten things 317 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: from the it's gonna go obsolete warehouse. I've gotten things 318 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: is as little as two years ago. And they they 319 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: code on the boxes two thousand six. I took the 320 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: part out. It looked perfectly fine. It looked like brand new. 321 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: It It's again, how were they stored? And I've got 322 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: a feeling they were stored really well. And that's that's 323 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: the piece to the puzzle. Listen. The only other solution 324 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: is you know, you have nothing, and then what do 325 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: you do for the car? So? Uh, can you keep everything? No? 326 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Can you keep some things? Yeah? I would Uh, you know, 327 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: at least at least you have something to work from. 328 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: Part of the problem with the sport or another one 329 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: of the problems with the sport of car collecting is, 330 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to pick the right car. You can't. 331 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to be aware that, Yeah, you're 332 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: gonna spend money on parts. Sometimes you're manufacturing parts. Sometimes 333 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: you're borrowing parts from another vehicle. Uh, similar characteristics that worked, 334 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: But it becomes that's part of the hobby, right, it 335 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: becomes the you know, it becomes the way of life 336 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: for that vehicle. Listen, why can't I take a seventy 337 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: two Monty Carlo and draw from New Jersey to Boston 338 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: every other weekend back in the seventies and not worry 339 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: about breaking down? Because if I did, I could walk 340 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: to any order parts store along nine the Merritt Parkway 341 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: and buy anything I needed and put it on the 342 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: car and solve it and you know, back on the 343 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: road again. Today. If I take that seventy two Monty Carlo, 344 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: there are no parts left. So if I go anywhere, 345 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: I've got to carry parts with me, or I've got 346 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that car is rock solid ready to go. 347 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: It's just part of the process. The industry has changed 348 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: and completely evolved. Appreciate the question, Bob. I hope that 349 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: answered it for you. I'm not any of the car. Doctor. 350 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: We're back at zero zero right after this Don't Go Away? 351 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Would you please take off that white suit to stop 352 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: dancing around the studio? But I'm having just way too 353 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: much fun. What do you are? You get ready to 354 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: go out? It's uh, it's the weekend. Are you gonna 355 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: go out dancing tonight? Is that? Is that the story? Uh? No, 356 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: I don't dance. I can tell you have two left 357 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: feet that aren't on fire. I've seen you walk. Well, 358 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: I only got one foot that was on fire. The 359 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: other foot still works. A um. So what kind of 360 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: car do you driving? High school? Tommy? And I was 361 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: thinking about that. I was gonna do a piece about 362 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: muscle cars, but I wanted Tom Rady drive a muscle 363 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: car in high school. Or was it a radio? No? 364 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: It was actually in nineteen s nine Ford Galaxy with 365 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: the three O two engine, and the radio in those 366 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: cars was on the left of the driver so the 367 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: passengers couldn't play with it. Yeah, there was a concept, right. 368 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: I thought that was a good thing. Yeah, it probably was, 369 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: and your radio probably worked perfectly. Were you ever happy 370 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: it worked great? Did you have to take it apart 371 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: and fix it. Uh the radio, No, something's on the car. Yeah. 372 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: My next door neighbor who drove a school bus accidentally 373 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: backed a bus into it one day and uh then 374 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: the driver's door only opened enough to be able to 375 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: get in. But you know it didn't matter because the 376 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: car was great. You could now driving that sixty nine 377 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: Galaxy did that? You know, I probably touched a lot 378 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: of things about warming something up and resilience and checking 379 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: the oil and having to do a little bit of 380 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: maintenance on a weekly basis as a kid, right to 381 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: touch a little responsibility. Oh yeah, that that And you 382 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: know my father before that had a sixty four. There 383 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: was a sixty six Ford Falcon convertible and that one 384 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: we actually took the valve covers off and painted them 385 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: and we painted uh you know, the air filter housing 386 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: and we put everything back together. And that taught me 387 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: a lot right there. Well, cars were very different then, 388 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: right That was they were. They were easy to work on, 389 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: and they were simple. They were simple, and they were 390 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: they were kind of like you could use them for 391 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: a variety of things. I remember as a kid, and 392 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: I'll get back to the show in a minute, folks. 393 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: I remember as a kid when my father was alive 394 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: that you know, we we lived on it. We lived 395 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: on you know, two acres of land and my father 396 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: was forever working on it with this small tractor. And 397 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: one day he got the tractor stuck in the pond. 398 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: My father got this bright idea. My mother argued with 399 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: him about don't do this, but he did it anyway, 400 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: and he decided to drive the tractor down into the 401 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: pond to get to the sandbar area to sort of 402 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: smooth over that. He wanted to like expand the pond. 403 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: And she was trying to convince him, though, you need 404 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: a you need a back ho You don't. You can't 405 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: use a lawn tractor, a tractor with a small place 406 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: and push all that didn't. So he got the tractor, 407 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was stuck up to the hubs, all right, 408 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: and what do you do? How do you get it out? Right? 409 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: Ronnie came here at that, you know, like nine years old, right, 410 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down there and help and push this 411 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: tractor out of the mud, Like what are you crazy? 412 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: He had a Volvo, an old school like a sixty one. 413 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: What was it a Volvo? I think they were d 414 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: ls or something was the model year. And I remember 415 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: this like it was yesterday, because those those things were tanks, right, 416 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: They were big, round, ugly as sin, but boy, they 417 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: were tanks. And I remember he drove it right onto 418 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: the lawn and you know, wrapped the chain around the 419 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: tractor and wrapped the chain around the bumper of the 420 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: Volvo and pulled it right out like it was nothing. 421 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: And I said, wow, that's a car. Um of course 422 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: he wrapped. You have to chain around a bumper of 423 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: a of a new Vole though you pulled a bumper off, 424 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: and the car probably stopped and set off every year 425 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: bag and alarm system and it and turn on a 426 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: half a dozen dashboard lights. It'd probably at the body shop. 427 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: It probably wouldn't, you know. So. But anyway, the reason 428 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: I asked you that question, and the reason I was 429 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: thinking of all this was I was reading an article 430 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: in motor Rage going back, and they start off with 431 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: going back to two thousand two. At the North American 432 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: International Auto Show, GM presented its Autonomy concept vehicle, and 433 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: the concept vehicle was a six inch thick flat deck 434 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: that had a hydrogen fuel cell powering four motors at 435 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: each one at each wheel. And there was no body 436 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: on it, and they're they're kind of they were trying 437 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: back in two thousand two. Well, it would give them 438 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: the ability to here's a propulsion system. Now we can 439 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: put the body on it, and the body the propulsion 440 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: system would always be the same, and we would mount 441 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: bodies dependent upon the market and what everybody wanted and 442 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: what sort of options everybody wanted. And this was two 443 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: thousand two and it was hydrogen fuel cell powered, not electric. 444 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: All right, Well, they went to and they developed something. 445 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: The R E Automotives started the development of E via 446 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: skateboard platform for future vehicles such as medium duty last 447 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: mild delivery vans, trucks, buses, et cetera. The platform would 448 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: work autonomous and human driven applications. The r E Automotive 449 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: concepts uses R E corners that has electric motors. Now 450 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: we went up to electric motors, power electronics, gearbox steering, 451 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: all bolted to each corner, filled with batteries inside the modules. 452 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: Extending from each modules the stubby axle, the supports hubb 453 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: and wheel steering, linkage, break rotor, etcetera. The flexibility to 454 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: manufacture each vehicle is unique, and they go on to 455 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: talk about the different platforms and the gross vehicle weight 456 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: ratings and how they're gonna make trucks and and and 457 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. Well, they're fast forwarding 458 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: to now are e this automotive company has signed an 459 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: agreement with Mahindra. They're gonna manufacture vehicle bodies and interiors. 460 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: And it looks like these vehicles from the idea of 461 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: GM Creem created in two thousand two, that was developed 462 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: further along, is not going to become a reality. And 463 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna start to see electric vehicles a motor at 464 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: each wheel, trucks that have an electric motor at each 465 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: wheel that you know, I want that body or that 466 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: body and it'll just get mounted to the same platform 467 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: and eliminate a lot of the manufacturing problems that are 468 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: inherent with you know, you've got this bigger truck or 469 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: that bigger truck, or I want this, I want this 470 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: one with this engine, or that you're just gonna have 471 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: less choices, and it's you know, I don't know, I 472 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: just I I keep thinking, you know that the technology 473 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: is just overtaking it and they're spending an awful lot 474 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: of money trying to develop this that you know, will 475 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: it work to the to the level that they want, 476 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: and that since two thousand two, And it's funny how 477 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: GM dropped the hydrogen fuel cell concept and went into 478 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: electric and I'd like to I'd like to have been 479 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: in on that meeting where that decision was made. Like, 480 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: you got to realize that when they end all this money, 481 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: it's this isn't Nicholson dimes. They spend twenty dollar bills 482 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: like you know, you and I drink glasses of water 483 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: every day. It's just it's just crazy numbers, and you 484 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: just wonder where we're gonna finally end up. The article 485 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: also talks about some of the electric trucks that are 486 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: coming out and some of the changes, and uh. They 487 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: talk about the Ford F series pickup truck, which has 488 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: been the best selling truck in the US for forty 489 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: four years. I didn't know that. And the Ford is 490 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: investing thirty billion with a B dollars through into new 491 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: plants at research and development and workers training in the 492 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: belief that of US automobiles will be all electric by now. 493 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's impossible, but you know, we've had 494 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: several experts here on the show and we've all read 495 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: the news and we're all hearing numbers. You know, a 496 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: lot of people are predicting, Hey, we think that you're 497 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna see three to five percent of the vehicle fleet 498 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: by five being all electric. Not you know, you gotta 499 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: hope that Ford's guessing in the right direction. Otherwise I 500 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe there's stock will be worth eight dollars 501 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: a share again, like it wasn't two thousand eight, So 502 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: anything can happen. Let's pull over and take a pause. 503 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine zero. I'll be 504 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: back right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back n 505 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: the end the car doctor at eight five five five 506 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: zero zero. Let me point out to by the way, 507 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: in case you didn't know that the eight five five 508 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero phone number is seven. Yeah. 509 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: Now I don't work seven, although some weeks it feels 510 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: like it. But you can go to the eight five 511 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: five five six zero zero zero phone number leave a message. 512 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: If we're not on the air. We are live on 513 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: the network Saturday afternoons two pm Eastern time. We go 514 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: from two to four, and you know you can leave 515 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: a message at that eight five five number. And Tom 516 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: Ray executive reducer chief cook and bottle washers. I like 517 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: to think of him as we'll call you back and 518 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: put you in the next queue for the next live broadcast. 519 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: So if you're listening to this show Sunday evening, Sunday morning, 520 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: Saturday night, whatever, you know that if you want to 521 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: talk to us, we're glad to and we can do that. 522 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: We can arrange that for you. Just leave a message 523 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: and we'll call you back. William writes in and William 524 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: from Connecticut. Uh has some very timely and um great comments. 525 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: I love his stuff, as as so many of you. 526 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: As I appreciate all your input. Um Ron, I've got Mustang. 527 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: There's only service at the Ford dealer that sold me 528 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: the car. I just had them replaced. The tires in 529 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: the vehicle came back missing several lug nut caps and 530 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: that he then goes on to expand how the lug 531 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: nut caps have fallen off and it makes it difficult 532 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: to remove the tires and creates an obvious issue if 533 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: you're having a flat Is there a better solution? There 534 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: is and and let me say this that this is 535 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: a chronic problem. I see this on Ford product, I 536 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: see this on jeep all right that these capped lug 537 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: nuts are a real pain in the butt. Okay, there's 538 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: just no other way to say it, because is what 539 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: happens is it's a stamped tin cap that sits on 540 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: the hard steel casing of the lug nut, and over time, 541 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: using if the shop is aggressive in their use of 542 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: an impact hammer, they just tend to twist the caps 543 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: off and then they or they'll loosen them up, and 544 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: then moisture gets up underneath the lug nut, underneath the cap, 545 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: and then what happens is a corrods and then the 546 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: cap falls off, and now the inner casing of the 547 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: lug nut is just a tad smaller than the actual 548 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: lug size, so you can't get the wheels off using 549 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: a conventional lug wrench. It can make for a nightmare 550 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: something as simple as a flat, Not that anything is 551 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: simple anymore, but something as simple as a flat all 552 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden becomes a much bigger problem. What's the solution, Well, 553 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: you want to try and find solid lug nuts, And 554 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: in my answering William's questions, I'll as I'll explain to 555 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: all of you is Um Dorman has some of this resolved. 556 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: If you go to the dormant website. You can look 557 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: it up. I believe it's Dormant Products dot com. But 558 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the replacement lug nuts were getting for 559 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: Dorman are now solid because it makes sense, right, You 560 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: just you just want to lug nut. It's it's so simple. 561 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: It's it's like he was using a knife and fork 562 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: to to you know, eat dinner with right. And yet 563 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes somebody gives you a spoon and you 564 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: can't understand why you can't cut a steak with a spoon. 565 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. Well, A cap lugnut doesn't work. 566 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't last over time, it falls apart. So you 567 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: can find more information about it at dormant Dormant products 568 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: dot com. But as I told William, Dorman is a 569 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: great source for you know, solving that that capped lugnut problem. 570 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: That's just the pin in the neck. Let's see Bill 571 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: and Virginia right said, Hey, Ron, thanks for taking to 572 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: call this Saturday on the show. I misunderstood my wife. 573 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: This is the gentleman with the O three cavalier. If 574 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: you recall um that she was driving our two thousand 575 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: three cavalier in the vehicle cut off it wasn't the case. 576 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: The gauges in the cluster went crazy, he said, but 577 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: the engine kept running. Okay, that was different until she 578 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: turned it off. He had explained to us that the uh, 579 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: the car shut off. Um, if you recall, and he said, 580 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: I took your advice. I checked the fuse for the 581 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: dash cluster and found the contacts on the fuse the 582 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: little shiny and warn the contact and a new replacement 583 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 1: of a dark coating on them. And they're not shiny. 584 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: So I presume that the old fuse was just worn 585 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: from vibration from twenty years of service. I sprayed some 586 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: contact cleaner on the old fuse, pushed it in in five 587 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: times while the contact cleaner was still wet to try 588 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: and prove the connection between the fuse and the fuse block, 589 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: and then spread cleaner on the new fuse, let it 590 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: try and inserted it. So far, so good, UM, no problem. 591 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate your saying, tell me what's good, and I'll 592 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: tell you what's bad. Well, yeah, I you know, sometimes 593 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: you don't know what's bad. Well, you never know what's 594 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: bad until you walk up. You gotta tell me what's good. 595 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: That way I eliminate it. Um, you know, it's it's 596 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: really a huge part of the procedure and the reason 597 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: I pulled Bill's email that I wanted to talk about 598 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: it up here is, uh, fuses are becoming an issue. 599 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: Al right, well they've been an issue for a while 600 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: in that based on the electrical demand in the vehicle. 601 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's almost not good enough to just say, Okay, 602 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: the circuits working, the fuse is good. It's it's becoming 603 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: a case that the circuits working, let's maybe pull the 604 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: fuse and look at the contacts. Are the contacts corroded 605 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: at all? Fords had problems, GM has had problems where 606 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: the fuses have dark spots on them making poor contact, 607 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: and you've got to go through the procedure that Bill 608 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: highlights here. Now, the danger is if you just start 609 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: pulling fuses at random, if you're pulling them on a 610 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: module that might have codes in it diagnostic information, you're 611 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna clear it. So you know, you've got to do 612 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: this in steps. I don't say pull fuses on everything 613 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: is a first step if you've got an intermittent, but 614 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: just consider it. Put that in the back pocket of 615 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: your diagnostic arsenal so that you're aware that perhaps a 616 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: weak or corroded or corrosive or you know, fatigued fuse 617 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: can cause the problem. Um, I've started to see some 618 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: of the GM products. You'll start to see it too 619 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: that I'm going back to. I've run across this on 620 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: the on the Silverados and the Suburbans, the fuses are 621 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: now three prong There are two legs to the fuse, 622 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: two outer legs or the feed, with the center prong 623 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: being the calm, and they're actually running two circuits off 624 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: of one fuse. And my belief is this is because 625 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: that there are so much electrical in that vehicle. The 626 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: one vehicle I can think of recently that had it 627 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: had four fuse boxes, two under the hood, one on 628 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: the left side of the dash, one on the right 629 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: side of the dash, and actually five there was one 630 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: under the back seat. So five fuse boxes in a truck. Okay, 631 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: you know how much electrical demand do you think these 632 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: vehicles have upon them? So just keep in mind something 633 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: as simple as the fuse. Hey it's the fuse, right, 634 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: it might be, but it might not be blown. It 635 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: just might be dirty and corroded. So something to think 636 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: about zero zero round nading the car doctor coming back 637 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: right after this, don't go away, welcome back. We'ren there 638 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. You know, a couple of weeks 639 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: ago we were talking about the postal service and they 640 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: just put an order in for guess sealine powered mail trucks. Well, 641 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: now it's come out that they've uh, they're being they're 642 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: being investigated by the e p A. So you kind 643 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: of knew that was coming. Um, and you know what, 644 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: here's a shocker for you. I think an electric mail 645 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: truck probably makes more sense. I really do. I think 646 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: a case where you know, in an application, if you 647 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: can produce the material and you can you know, you 648 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 1: can deliver the electricity. I've said for years that if 649 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna make it electric, make it a root vehicle, 650 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: because a vehicle that drives the same route every day, 651 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: you know where it's gonna stop, you know where it's 652 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: gonna start, and you know where it's gonna spend the 653 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: night getting charged, and it would be more cost effective 654 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: I think in the long run. So I think the 655 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: e p A is on on doing the right thing here. Um. 656 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, according to the reports, the move is considered 657 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: a push by the by the Biden administration to really 658 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: reallocate the projected six billion dollar replacement cost six billion 659 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: dollars worth of postal vehicles UH service fleet toward the 660 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: new vehicles that all for significant improvements in fuel economy 661 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: and air quality. The e p A claims the Oshkosh 662 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: replacement vehicles only offer a four tenths per mile gallon 663 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: fuel economy improvement over the agency's current fleet. The current 664 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: fleet is thirty years old in this and lacks basic 665 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: niceties such as air conditioning. Well, I think a postal 666 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: workers should have air conditioning. I mean they're in and 667 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: out of the vehicle a lot, but I think they 668 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: should have air conditioning down south, I mean can I can't. 669 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: I've been I've been in Atlanta, Georgia, in in in 670 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: the summer months and it's you know, you could cause 671 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: the humidity with a knife or Florida Holy count. Um. 672 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely. So let's see if they come up 673 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: with the right solution here and they make this all electric. Um, 674 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: I think that would be a I think that would 675 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: be a great thing. So um, a quick hour. I 676 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: appreciate it all. Your all. Yes, Tom, you had a 677 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: comment topic confuses before. Can you imagine the amount of 678 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: fuses in in an electric car and the problems that 679 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: will cause. Well, yeah, I mean that's you know again, 680 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: diagnostic solutions, right. And you know one of the reasons 681 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: I you know, I was recently interviewed in a magazine 682 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: Tom I'll answer the question this way of the comment 683 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: this way, UM, And they said, you know, one of 684 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: the questions they asked me Bergen magazine, UM in the 685 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: March issue, page twenty six, if you happen to want 686 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: to read it, find it online. You know, not that 687 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm promoting it, um, but one of the questions they 688 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: asked me, they said, you know, how has the business changed? 689 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: And my my answer was, you know, the business has evolved, 690 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,959 Speaker 1: the cars have evolved, but the procedure is the same. 691 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: I was always taught that you go through a diagnosis 692 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: steps one through four, steps one through eight, or many 693 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: steps there are. I've never started it too, and I've 694 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: never started at eight. I've always started it one. And 695 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: I think if you want to have a successful diagnosis 696 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: on anything gas, electric or whatever, you've got to start 697 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: with step one. And that's why I always teach that 698 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: start with one. You can fix anything. I don't care 699 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: what it is. Because I'm rodin Any in the car doctor, 700 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: and I'm reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 701 00:35:49,800 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: See you, sp