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Speaker 2: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Highty
Speaker 2: Hollis on the iHeartRadio. Hey, Coast to Coast, I am
Speaker 2: the Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each
Speaker 2: week this is where you go through when you want
Speaker 2: to learn the latest when it comes to anything I ordinary,
Speaker 2: from shadow people to half Man to Bigfoot and ghosts
Speaker 2: and angels, Jesus encounters. I don't care what is happening
Speaker 2: in your neighborhood, in your family, in your mind. When
Speaker 2: it comes to the strangeness of this planet, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about it here. In fact, I invite you
Speaker 2: the listener, to go to my main website, which is
Speaker 2: Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot com and
Speaker 2: tell me your stories. If you want me to talk
Speaker 2: about a certain topic here on this program. This is
Speaker 2: your opportunity. If there's something in the news, if there's
Speaker 2: something that you saw when you're five years old and
Speaker 2: you just want to get some level headed advice. I
Speaker 2: am someone who has been there seeing that, experienced it,
Speaker 2: freaked out, found some answers, wrote about it, got over it,
Speaker 2: and now I am trying to help other people do
Speaker 2: the same thing and get over this stuff and you know,
Speaker 2: work it out, and you know, I got to tell
Speaker 2: you guys. You can also go and check out my
Speaker 2: paranormal comic strip. It's called the Outlanders coomic dot com
Speaker 2: or on Instagram at the Outlanders Comic and guess what.
Speaker 2: On Facebook, I have a couple of groups because I
Speaker 2: want people to know that they can indeed learn with
Speaker 2: each other. Okay, Paranormal Pledge that is for anybody who
Speaker 2: has experienced anything out of the ordinary, and we take
Speaker 2: the pledge to tell people so this doesn't seem so
Speaker 2: strange anymore paranormal. Let's make it normal. And also shadow
Speaker 2: people and hat Man Experiencer. That group is about people
Speaker 2: who have experienced these things and you get to meet
Speaker 2: the source of the topic, which is me. Uh, and
Speaker 2: we try to have some conversations about what it is
Speaker 2: that's going on, and to also keep keep our ears
Speaker 2: on this too, because it is changing, it is evolving,
Speaker 2: and I'm not having it and uh, yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep the conversation going so it doesn't get
Speaker 2: away from us. And uh, you know, I gotta tell
Speaker 2: you on social media at one Heidi Hollis. That's put
Speaker 2: a one in front of my name. H E I
Speaker 2: D I h O L L I S follow me there,
Speaker 2: send me messages. Yes, I do really try to respond
Speaker 2: to people's messages, and uh, you know, keep in touch.
Speaker 2: And also don't forget YouTube dot com forward slash Heidi Hollis,
Speaker 2: I have some interesting video up there. And I am
Speaker 2: getting closer and closer, guys, to telling you something you
Speaker 2: would have never expected, because I know I haven't the story,
Speaker 2: the story of Shadow People hat Man, it gets bigger
Speaker 2: and more involved on levels you just can't even you
Speaker 2: just can't even imagine. So very soon I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: talking about what that all entails, and I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: disclosing it hopefully I'm a YouTube channel within the next
Speaker 2: several months, and just kind of go there because it's time.
Speaker 2: I was told that there would be other steps and
Speaker 2: understandings and that Shadow People hat Man topic and the
Speaker 2: experiences we're gonna get out of control and guess what
Speaker 2: it is through the roof, Absolutely through the roof, and
Speaker 2: it's heartbreaking, children, adults, people who have seen them once
Speaker 2: or people that have seen them every night. It's horrific.
Speaker 2: It's horrific. And there's a reason behind all of this. Okay,
Speaker 2: there is a big reason, and it's time that people
Speaker 2: get themselves corrected on their way of thinking and doing things. Okay,
Speaker 2: these things like to go after people who are gifted
Speaker 2: and evolving. You get me evolving. No, you won't hear
Speaker 2: this anyplace else, and if you do, well, I'm not
Speaker 2: surprised people are trying to grab things and make it
Speaker 2: into I don't know, something that makes it seem like
Speaker 2: they're really smart. But coming from myself, this is coming
Speaker 2: at you. How can I say there's no filter on it? Okay,
Speaker 2: it didn't go from somebody else. It came from my
Speaker 2: memories and also having had contact with beings who first
Speaker 2: informed me about what these beings are. And they told
Speaker 2: me not to worry because I'm like, I'm a college kid.
Speaker 2: I'm writing a book about this because of what I mean,
Speaker 2: who's going to read my book? And they said, don't
Speaker 2: you worry about that? Let us take care of that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, So I wrote the book. I would
Speaker 2: I stopped even trying to be a therapist here. I
Speaker 2: graduated college. Took me two months to write that book,
Speaker 2: four years to get it published, and it was sent
Speaker 2: all over the place. And let me tell you, I
Speaker 2: got into the back of my van, drove my friends around.
Speaker 2: I would be in the front of the van doing that,
Speaker 2: and I would go different conferences and conventions, you know,
Speaker 2: and talk about the phenomena. I would talk and sell
Speaker 2: myself published book and you know, just have at it
Speaker 2: and hope that people got the message. Well, Coast to
Speaker 2: coast came along. George Norri gave me the chance and
Speaker 2: I got the opportunity to talk about my book, The
Speaker 2: Secret War, and it's never ended. I've been talking about
Speaker 2: this for a couple of decades now, and it all
Speaker 2: started with myself it in the road and knowing and remembering,
Speaker 2: this is what I was supposed to be doing in
Speaker 2: this life. And you know, if you get into near
Speaker 2: death experiences and you watch some of these stories, you
Speaker 2: hear some of these stories and the people are like,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, I designed my own life. I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to be doing this and that well, I remember agreeing
Speaker 2: to come here and to do exactly what I've been doing.
Speaker 2: But there's a part I didn't know the exact details about,
Speaker 2: but I knew there was more, okay, and it is
Speaker 2: really beyond. It's beyond. And so yeah, so doing this
Speaker 2: talking about these things, it is a big passion. It
Speaker 2: is my only passion, and it's what drives me every
Speaker 2: single day, like I am always looking to what more
Speaker 2: can I do today to make sure people get the
Speaker 2: proper message. And you know, it's really heartbreaking when I
Speaker 2: hear it get distorted and people losing their lives trying
Speaker 2: to be met with hat man or shadow people. That
Speaker 2: was never the intention. The intention was to warn against Now,
Speaker 2: why are these things after people? Well, hat Man's name,
Speaker 2: I discovered is actually named Arimon. And you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of people want to get into the history of things.
Speaker 2: But I've talked about it here on this program before.
Speaker 2: Rudolph Steiner, I wasn't familiar with his work, unfortunately. And
Speaker 2: one of my friends shows me an image of a
Speaker 2: sculpted head and it looks like an alien of a sort, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, my goodness, who did such a
Speaker 2: great sculpture of hat Man? And my friend's like what.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's hat Man right there, that's hat Man.
Speaker 2: And she's like, Heidi, Rudolph Steiner did this AE hundred
Speaker 2: years ago and he said, one hundred years from now
Speaker 2: is when this Aramann character would surface and become a
Speaker 2: major problem. And he is, it is hat Man. I
Speaker 2: didn't know what that was that I was looking at,
Speaker 2: but I knew I knew who it was. I didn't
Speaker 2: know who made that, but a prediction by a man
Speaker 2: who is multifaceted I've learned creating the Waldorff door schools
Speaker 2: and being an architect and the founder of anthroposophy. I mean,
Speaker 2: my goodness, he is something else and a lot of
Speaker 2: different hands and a lot of different things. And Araman,
Speaker 2: according to Steiner, had a very similar goal as to
Speaker 2: what I understand. He is aiming to get people to
Speaker 2: get so caught up in things where they get sucked
Speaker 2: into it, very much like technology, making us disregard that
Speaker 2: we have a soul, putting our energy into things that
Speaker 2: don't count. And people who are very insightful or creative
Speaker 2: or could see or hear things that most people cannot,
Speaker 2: you know, like psychic, Even those are the people who
Speaker 2: get targeted because that shows evolution, okay, and that is
Speaker 2: not something that shadow people or hat Man would want.
Speaker 2: Guess what same with Armann. It's to trap people, to
Speaker 2: trap their souls, their essence so they do not continue
Speaker 2: to progress. So that's crazy, isn't it? To know one
Speaker 2: hundred years prior that somebody saw this thing coming and
Speaker 2: did such a great rendition of it, And here I
Speaker 2: am one hundred years later. Indeed, picking up now, I
Speaker 2: remembered there were to be others like myself here, but
Speaker 2: I didn't know who it would be, and I sure
Speaker 2: didn't didn't know how to find him. Well, I guess
Speaker 2: I missed him. By one hundred years. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a long winded story, but I wanted to get that
Speaker 2: out to you guys. So you can look up Erman
Speaker 2: and Rudolf Steiner and look at the sculpted head. It's
Speaker 2: on my website heidihallis dot com and you can see
Speaker 2: him there because it is absolutely hat man. And uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I gotta tell you, guys, guess what today's
Speaker 2: show is all about. Here I am talking and talking.
Speaker 2: Today's show is all about your stories. Yeah, I'm doing
Speaker 2: another one because I have so many emails and I
Speaker 2: am doing my best to get caught up, and I
Speaker 2: never know what I grab, and I just go for
Speaker 2: it and just grab and uh it's it's amazing the
Speaker 2: stories that come up. And I have to tell you
Speaker 2: you guys. Recently I jumped on with George Nori and
Speaker 2: did a program and was talking about how the world
Speaker 2: is preparing the churches essentially to explain to the rest
Speaker 2: of us how aliens fit into the mix of faith. Okay,
Speaker 2: so every get ready for that one. So I was
Speaker 2: talking about that. Got a chance to speak about synesthesia.
Speaker 2: My friend Maureen Seberg. She's got a new book coming
Speaker 2: out August eighth, and it goes to show that we
Speaker 2: are super super robots, superhuman, superhuman. And her book is
Speaker 2: called Fearfully and Wonderfully made right out of the Bible,
Speaker 2: but the latest science on what it is that we
Speaker 2: as humans can see, feel, and do and absolutely prove
Speaker 2: it we are magnificent. Never ever put down the human
Speaker 2: potential of what we are capable. Oh got it. That's great,
Speaker 2: all right, So we're gonna get to your emails here soon.
Speaker 2: The Outlandish Corner is coming up next to you, guys.
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Speaker 2: Light with me Heidi Hollis Adi I Heeart Radio and
Speaker 2: Coast to Coast Damn Paranormal Podcast Network. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: you guys. I have some serious emails for the Outlandish Corner.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go into that here, and I want to
Speaker 2: remind you to find me on social media, all of
Speaker 2: social media pretty much. TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, at one
Speaker 2: Heidi Hollis and also don't forget to go check out
Speaker 2: they all later's comic on Instagram. All right, we're gonna
Speaker 2: dive on in. I don't know where these emails are
Speaker 2: going to, and I do not edit them, so oftentimes
Speaker 2: you might hear me pause because I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: make sense of what is supposed to be there and
Speaker 2: is not because people miss words. Okay, it just is
Speaker 2: what it is, all right, This one says, dear Heidi.
Speaker 2: That's me. Back when I was three, me and my
Speaker 2: mom were living in an apartment building. I don't remember
Speaker 2: much of that day, but I remember having a nightmare
Speaker 2: about them. In the dream, I was in my house
Speaker 2: in the living room. It was dark, but this type
Speaker 2: of darkness was unusual. You've got a great memory for
Speaker 2: three years old. It was almost as if the darkness
Speaker 2: in the area was glowing. Ooh no, that's interesting. It
Speaker 2: was a glowing darkness, guys, is not something and the
Speaker 2: room seemed a lot bigger. Oh I got chills. I
Speaker 2: had something like that happen. Oh, really really crazy. Even
Speaker 2: though it was dark, I could see a man standing
Speaker 2: in front of the living room doorway. He she It
Speaker 2: was covered with darkness, and I couldn't see any detail's
Speaker 2: eyes or anything at all. Even when the light shined
Speaker 2: on it. You know that is common. It like takes
Speaker 2: the light away. I don't think it's absorbing the light.
Speaker 2: It's not reflective of the light. It just takes it away.
Speaker 2: Is that weird?
Speaker 4: So weird? Okay?
Speaker 2: Continuing, This was my first time seeing the shadows. Believe
Speaker 2: it or not, they say, And that's what they call them.
Speaker 2: That's what the aliens call them. By the way, they
Speaker 2: call them the shadows. And they continue. It was like
Speaker 2: the darkness was taking the form of a man. I
Speaker 2: remember being scared and terrified as I saw him. I
Speaker 2: don't blame you. I guess it was an instinct. But
Speaker 2: I hid in front of a staircase that had two
Speaker 2: steps in the middle of the living room, a dumb
Speaker 2: move on my part, since I could have gone in
Speaker 2: my room and shut the door. I curled up in
Speaker 2: a ball with my head on the ground, hoping the
Speaker 2: shadow would pass. Hey, give yourself a break, you were
Speaker 2: at three years old. Oh oh my goodness. Instead, I
Speaker 2: heard him walk closer to me. Oh no. As the
Speaker 2: carpet creaked, I felt its hand touch my head out.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no no, and everything went black. Oh that's horrible. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's horrible. No, no, no, no, this is no good.
Speaker 2: I woke up on my bed, scared and confused. What
Speaker 2: so you mean to tell me? This thing touch you
Speaker 2: and suddenly you were knocked out and brought to your bed. Huh.
Speaker 2: I went to my mom's room for comfort and got
Speaker 2: in her bed. As I laid down, I saw this
Speaker 2: shadow in the doorway of her bedroom watching me. Oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is not no. For some reason, I was brave
Speaker 2: enough to yell and call it stupid countless times and
Speaker 2: ordered it out of the room. Wow, three years old,
Speaker 2: that's pretty brazen. I love that a three year old
Speaker 2: told it. I love that my mom, who was awake,
Speaker 2: didn't seem to see what I was seeing, even though
Speaker 2: this time I was awake. Maybe it didn't sense any
Speaker 2: fear for me at that time because it decided to
Speaker 2: leave and this time, Oh okay, I got bad chills.
Speaker 2: I got bad chills. It had a cape or cloak
Speaker 2: flowing behind it as it disappeared into the air. Oh guys,
Speaker 2: that is a big battye. No, that's hat man, that's
Speaker 2: hat man. I knew that it wasn't the same shadow
Speaker 2: from my dream, but a different one. After that night,
Speaker 2: I had more and more dreams of the shadows or
Speaker 2: shadow people. I gotta tell you, guys, I gotta stop
Speaker 2: right there, because that's hat Man. That is not a
Speaker 2: shadow being. Okay, I get it. I know that he
Speaker 2: can form himself from shadow, and I did. It was
Speaker 2: my fault. I was the one. When I first introduced
Speaker 2: hat Man Shadow to the world, I called him hat
Speaker 2: Man Shadow. But as the story evolved and I got
Speaker 2: more information, I realized and learned he's something more than
Speaker 2: a mere shadow. Because that's just the understatement of the century.
Speaker 2: It is not that he is very solid, very real,
Speaker 2: and yeah, he can blend into the shadows and step
Speaker 2: out from the shadows, but he wears an outfit for
Speaker 2: crying out loud. He is very very much in this
Speaker 2: realm when he wants to be all right, So continuing, Strangely,
Speaker 2: they always touched my head for some reason. I don't
Speaker 2: know why. I even have some sort of a scar
Speaker 2: or mark on my chest after a dream one night.
Speaker 2: What that's crazy. That's horrible right there, That's horrible. So
Speaker 2: that makes me think alien. Right, you guys have heard
Speaker 2: of scoop marks, aliens making scars of that sort well,
Speaker 2: hello shadow people, hat Man. They work with alien beings,
Speaker 2: and hat Man looks like an alien straight up. Okay,
Speaker 2: and they continue. I still have that scar to this day,
Speaker 2: even when the dream stopped when I was eight years old. Wow,
Speaker 2: you know this person, I'm pretty certain they've had a
Speaker 2: combination of experiences. When you have had hat Man sounds
Speaker 2: like coming several times and touching your head. I mean,
Speaker 2: you're a little kid. It's I think it was trying
Speaker 2: to be endearing towards you. And this is where people
Speaker 2: get confused, like, oh, it's a comforting thing. Oh, this
Speaker 2: is an angel, this is a guardian. No, no, you
Speaker 2: guys heard the terror of this kid and his little
Speaker 2: soul screaming out like no, go away. Not good. Isn't
Speaker 2: it something that the instincts of a three year old
Speaker 2: are better than a lot of adults. Yeah, because I
Speaker 2: get people who are like, oh, there's different types of
Speaker 2: shadow people. There's ones that are guardians. Oh no, no,
Speaker 2: there are not. There's some that are good. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: They are not your friends. They are not there to
Speaker 2: protect you for fun. They're trying to protect their food.
Speaker 2: You know, you ever see a dog trying to guard
Speaker 2: their food. Okay, so yeah, they might nip at somebody
Speaker 2: that might infiltrate their space. Oh look, they're guarding me. Now,
Speaker 2: they're guarding their food, their plate of food. Do not
Speaker 2: be deceived. Okay. I hate to hear that that is
Speaker 2: getting put out there, absolutely the wrong way. Ugh, angering,
Speaker 2: absolutely angering. So people think it's harmless. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: go and talk about this on a sort of website
Speaker 2: on your stuff and then put it all wrong. Oh
Speaker 2: oh no, so bad, so bad. It's causing harm because
Speaker 2: the people imagine that you read about hat man being
Speaker 2: a good guy, you wake up to him in your bedroom.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, come on, have seed, sit down here,
Speaker 2: let's get cozy. So tell me what's your favorite color? Oh? Black?
Speaker 2: Oh cool? You gave an invitation to the devil. Okay.
Speaker 2: You do not want people to put their guard down.
Speaker 2: You want people to put their foot in his back, okay,
Speaker 2: to kick him out and the sprinkles and Jesus on
Speaker 2: it so he doesn't come back. Okay. Very important to
Speaker 2: know who your enemy is because when you do, be
Speaker 2: able to defend yourself and look for his opposing force. Indeed, indeed,
Speaker 2: now this is an interesting, interesting set of circumstances, because
Speaker 2: it sounds like this poor kid was absolutely being abused, repeatedly,
Speaker 2: having this thing come, always touching your head, trying to
Speaker 2: get in your head, trying to get comfort. And again children,
Speaker 2: think about that. Think about having a three year old
Speaker 2: and if a stranger, even at a grocery store, every
Speaker 2: time you saw them, would come and stroke your child's head,
Speaker 2: how'd you feel about that? I mean, think about that.
Speaker 2: This is not innocent. It is getting into personal space.
Speaker 2: And then you got to think of and a lot
Speaker 2: of people like, oh, well, it can't be bad because
Speaker 2: we have this protection of But to the age of twelve,
Speaker 2: when we could speak for ourselves, you know, it's that
Speaker 2: level of innocence that protects us. Here's a three year old, guys,
Speaker 2: a three year old. That's why I say, you know
Speaker 2: that level of protection. I hear you. But these things
Speaker 2: are cheating. Okay, they're absolutely cheating. He's three years old,
Speaker 2: and he says, I remember having a nightmare about them
Speaker 2: and in their dreams and what it is doing to them.
Speaker 2: So it comes into your dreams and it's like you're
Speaker 2: playing catch or something and you're with a friend and
Speaker 2: you're like, come on into the house. Let's get some
Speaker 2: lemonade or something. You invited them though it was a dream.
Speaker 2: You let them in. You let them in. I know
Speaker 2: it's cheating. This kid would know it's cheating. These things
Speaker 2: know that they're cheating, but they're still doing it and
Speaker 2: they're getting away with it. This is why there's a
Speaker 2: problem that protective element. There's something wrong. This is why
Speaker 2: these things are growing exponentially. We have to be aware
Speaker 2: that we have a soul first off, and that it's
Speaker 2: a dinner bell m h calling all shadow people and
Speaker 2: hat man to come and have a taste. It's the
Speaker 2: flavor of today, everybody my foot. That's what I want
Speaker 2: to tell it. And some holy water to wash it down.
Speaker 2: All right, you guys, we got some more emails. You
Speaker 2: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Hidy Hollis
Speaker 2: on the iHeart Radio It Coast to Coast dam Paranormal
Speaker 2: Podcast Network.
Speaker 4: Will be right back, welcome back.
Speaker 2: You are listening to Darkly Comes Blight with me Heidi
Speaker 2: Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast I am
Speaker 2: Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm kind of kind of giggling because
Speaker 2: I can't believe I said I was serving up the
Speaker 2: flavor of my foot. You guys, I want to remind
Speaker 2: you guys to go and check out my main website
Speaker 2: and tell me your stories at Heidihollis dot com and
Speaker 2: also find me on social media at one Heidi Hollis
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, if you always reach out to me there. Okay,
Speaker 2: you guys serving up a slice of foot for these demons. AnyWho?
Speaker 2: We got another email here, all right, This one says
Speaker 2: dear Heidi again. That's me. Back in nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 2: when my husband and I married and moved into our
Speaker 2: first home together, the couple we bought it from said
Speaker 2: they were moving to Florida, which we found out later
Speaker 2: that they didn't do. Ooh ooh. We joked at the
Speaker 2: time that the husband looked as if he had seen
Speaker 2: a ghost and acted like he couldn't wait to get
Speaker 2: out of that mobile home. But we liked it a lot.
Speaker 2: It was cute and looked practically new. They were set up.
Speaker 2: I got bad chills that went right down my spine.
Speaker 2: I got bad chills. Ooh, that's so wrong, you know,
Speaker 2: I think that's just that should be put into the rules.
Speaker 2: You got to say if there's like some demon living
Speaker 2: in the house. Okay, shoot, I wouldn't be serious about it,
Speaker 2: all right, it continues. People back then did not talk
Speaker 2: about paranormal stuff, and there were certainly no shows on
Speaker 2: the TV about them, so we were slow to admit
Speaker 2: what was going on in there. The TV turned off
Speaker 2: and on by itself a lot. Oh boy. We blamed
Speaker 2: it on a neighbor having the same TV remote. Oh
Speaker 2: that that's good. What not that lasts for so long?
Speaker 2: The bedroom fan would turn off and on. Also, there's
Speaker 2: also this black sticky stuff on the phone buttons. We
Speaker 2: had no cell phones then. That had to be cleaned. Wow.
Speaker 2: One night my husband accused me of spilling coke on
Speaker 2: the phone and not cleaning it. Huh. I wasn't a
Speaker 2: soda drinker. We would hear loud cat purrs and what
Speaker 2: sounded like a cat running up and down the hallway,
Speaker 2: which would not have been weird, but we would be
Speaker 2: in bed with our two cats, whom also heard it.
Speaker 2: We would laugh everything off. Okay, I gotta tell you
Speaker 2: guys something real quick. Because I had a pet cat,
Speaker 2: and I gave my pet cat was all black to
Speaker 2: my sister and she had him for several years and
Speaker 2: he unfortunately passed right in the house and she buried
Speaker 2: him out back. And to this day, I mean, he
Speaker 2: was a very reclusive cat, always hiding and only you know,
Speaker 2: when everybody was kind of settled down in the evening,
Speaker 2: he'd come out and just be this friendliest, big black
Speaker 2: kitty cat with an overbite and giant fangs. Okay, and
Speaker 2: his name was Pyramid. He's a sweet kitty. And he
Speaker 2: died and I'm telling you, in his after life, he
Speaker 2: is the most active cat, okay, running all around having
Speaker 2: a good old time. I saw him in the house.
Speaker 2: My sister's kids have seen him running around. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's just very active and he looks very solid, and
Speaker 2: the kids are like, he's sitting on my bed, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's just Pyramid. You know, they're chill
Speaker 2: about it. But imagine the next person coming in to
Speaker 2: the house and they see a big black, big fanged
Speaker 2: cat or running through. I always wondered, I'm like, they're
Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh my gosh, we have a demon
Speaker 2: cat running around. You know. It's it would be taken
Speaker 2: out of perspective, right, it really would. I can understand
Speaker 2: he's active but he's harmless, and I think he just
Speaker 2: likes being around family, like, oh, nobody's bothering me, even
Speaker 2: you know, they could see me still, but he was
Speaker 2: just so painfully shy. He is just having the time
Speaker 2: of his afterlife. And yeah, so it's just funny. So
Speaker 2: I'm just listening to this. I'm like somebody's kiddy.
Speaker 4: Cat, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, you know that's exactly what would happen, somebody
Speaker 2: pumping in my sister's house late. All right, So continuing,
Speaker 2: one thing we didn't talk about was the black shadow.
Speaker 2: Oh that would dart around just in our peripheral view.
Speaker 2: We would explain everything away for the next two years
Speaker 2: until our son was born in the fall of nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety three. His presence in the mobile home escalated the activity.
Speaker 2: You guys, this is common right here. A new baby
Speaker 2: escalates paranormal activity. Food. Everybody that lunching like sound I
Speaker 2: was talking about it's a dinner bell unexperienced soul coming
Speaker 2: in and ooh, a little morsel in order. Okay, So
Speaker 2: it escalated the activity to where we had to acknowledge
Speaker 2: that something was going on. He was a very colicky baby,
Speaker 2: so we didn't get much that first year, my husband
Speaker 2: would get angry and punch holes in the walls. What
Speaker 2: and even kicked a hole in the metal bottom of
Speaker 2: the screen door. Yepes, Okay, that's not good. When our
Speaker 2: son was old enough to walk, he would wake up
Speaker 2: screaming and crying and running to our room. Every night
Speaker 2: he would tell us about a man that played with
Speaker 2: his toys and a green owl that watched him at night. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, I can imagine who the man is. Can
Speaker 2: you guys raise your hand y? Yeah, you in the back?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 2: Hat man ah and watched him at night? A green ow?
Speaker 2: Do you guys? You guys know what an owl represents?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say represents, but oftentimes people who have seen
Speaker 2: aliens report seeing owl wolves in their bedroom. And you
Speaker 2: think about it, the mesmerizing eyes. They just kind of
Speaker 2: lock you in and hypnotize you to see other things.
Speaker 2: And I'm not surprised hat man seen a right right
Speaker 2: alongside of him. So AnyWho continuing here, there was also
Speaker 2: red water dripping from the ceiling. Red water. Really. One night,
Speaker 2: after calming him down and tucking him into our bed,
Speaker 2: I sleepily walked down the hallway to his room to
Speaker 2: turn off his night light. As soon as I did that,
Speaker 2: I turned around and saw a large shadow of a
Speaker 2: man ew ew just head, neck and shoulders. Oh oh oh, okay,
Speaker 2: hold on all right, I wanna see where this goes.
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is the head and shoulder shadow,
Speaker 2: because headed shoulder shadow for you guys that don't know,
Speaker 2: have it on my website Heidihollis dot com. And there's
Speaker 2: this this rounded shoulder thing. It doesn't have much of
Speaker 2: a neck. Oh, she says, there's a neck, but uh,
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see. I'll continue with the description. But
Speaker 2: head and shoulder shadow just kind of loosely looks like
Speaker 2: a guy standing there, but he usually doesn't have a neck,
Speaker 2: so maybe she is talking about hat man. Okay, so
Speaker 2: just head, neck and shoulders on the door. You saw
Speaker 2: a large shadow of a man head, neck and shoulders
Speaker 2: on the door leading out of the room. It was
Speaker 2: darker than the unlit room. There goes that darkness again.
Speaker 2: I froze terrified, with the word evil screaming in my mind.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I have such chills right now. It
Speaker 2: hit the back of my elbows, tops of my thighs. Ugh.
Speaker 2: The black figure seemed to stare back at me. It
Speaker 2: tilted its head to one side, as if to say, well, now,
Speaker 2: I guess you can finally see me. Ough ouh iky
Speaker 2: iky Oh, my chills, they have grown, they have doubled.
Speaker 2: Then it started around to the back of the door,
Speaker 2: lightning fast, and was gone, oh oh oh, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not kidding you. I'm like, absolutely filled with goosebumps.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that you see a shadow and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it kind of looks like a man. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's tipping its head and it ran. That's horrifying. That's horrifying.
Speaker 2: I flew out of that room and woke up my husband.
Speaker 2: All I could say was made and in room, pointing
Speaker 2: down the hall. I'm sure you're frozen in fear. I'm
Speaker 2: absolutely feeling it.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: My husband was in that room pounding on the walls
Speaker 2: and yelling for it to get out of our home.
Speaker 2: You know, you guys, I have synesthesia, Okay, I've talked
Speaker 2: about that mirror touch synesthesia where I could feel other
Speaker 2: people in that when I say I'm getting these goosebumps
Speaker 2: right now, and that anger and that terror, it just
Speaker 2: it hits me so hard sometimes and I'm feeling it.
Speaker 2: I moved our son into our room the next day
Speaker 2: and closed his bedroom off.
Speaker 4: I don't blame you.
Speaker 2: We all slept together every night. I hung a picture
Speaker 2: of Jesus in our bedroom and had the church bless
Speaker 2: a cross necklace for us each to wear. That's a
Speaker 2: amazing I wear my cross necklace all the time. I
Speaker 2: don't take it off, but I blessed it myself because
Speaker 2: it's true. Your faith is stronger than the next person,
Speaker 2: because it's yours, right, makes it more personal, all right? Continuing,
Speaker 2: one night, we were all woke up by a loud
Speaker 2: banging on our bedroom door. Oh that's move out day.
Speaker 2: That's the move out day, everybody. That's when you go
Speaker 2: and get those bags, and you're like, I don't care
Speaker 2: what's in this house. I'm just gonna go now, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wave goodbye, slowly, slowly.
Speaker 4: I'm done.
Speaker 2: I'm done. Something's at the bedroom door, not the house door,
Speaker 2: but the bedroom door. I just I don't, I don't
Speaker 2: even I just can't. I just can't. I just imagine
Speaker 2: that what that kid was going through. Imagine Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: you know I gotta finish this email after the break.
Speaker 2: If you guys don't forget to go check out theother
Speaker 2: f word dot com is my books on faith for
Speaker 2: children and adults, and I think you will dig it.
Speaker 2: All right, you guys, you are listening to darktcoms Light
Speaker 2: with me hey Hollis on iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast
Speaker 2: a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll be written, welcome back.
Speaker 2: You are listening to Dark Becomes Lights with me Heidi
Speaker 2: Hollis on iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast he AM
Speaker 2: Paranormal Podcast Network. Thanks just for the break. I was
Speaker 2: reading about a horrific email with something pounding at these
Speaker 2: people's bedroom door. Ugh, I just can't imagine. Let's continue,
Speaker 2: but I want to remind you guys to go to
Speaker 2: Heidihollis dot com and write and tell me your personal stories,
Speaker 2: what is going on in your world, and I will
Speaker 2: absolutely address it here on this program and also follow
Speaker 2: me at one Hidie Hollis on most social media. All right,
Speaker 2: this one continues to say. My husband and I looked
Speaker 2: at each other and both said, I am not opening
Speaker 2: that door. That's funny. I wouldn't either. This is not
Speaker 2: the movies. That's your life. Another night, this is so funny,
Speaker 2: our ten gallon fish tank exploded and we rushed to
Speaker 2: clean up the water and save the fish. Always during
Speaker 2: the daylight, we would catch glimpses of the shadow figure
Speaker 2: darting around. One weekend, my husband sat me down and
Speaker 2: told me that I had to move our son back
Speaker 2: into his old room. Okay, guys, this is crazy. Messing
Speaker 2: with your fish too, That's that's crazy. I was so
Speaker 2: mad at him. I said that I would never do
Speaker 2: that and walked away from him. M Later on, I
Speaker 2: would find out that he had no memory of doing
Speaker 2: such a thing. You, guys, do you see that hat
Speaker 2: man possessed him to feed his kid back to him?
Speaker 2: Do you hear this? So he got possessed, guys, absolutely possessed. Wow,
Speaker 2: after five years we moved out. Five years in five minutes.
Speaker 2: For me, I still wonder if my husband and I
Speaker 2: might carry around some of the darkness of that shadow
Speaker 2: person within us. Within interesting choice of words, I feel
Speaker 2: a darkness in me and my husband has some anger issues.
Speaker 2: Do you think that it is possible after all of
Speaker 2: these years? Dedy, Yes, INDEEDYDDI mm hmm. I said that
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but yes I do. I do believe. So
Speaker 2: these things are patient. It doesn't matter the time. I've
Speaker 2: had people that played the wich aboard once in their
Speaker 2: childhood and they get this thing coming at them, and
Speaker 2: it takes a psychic or somebody else saying hey, I
Speaker 2: just had a vision that you were playing with a
Speaker 2: wich aboard and that's what conjured this thing up.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and that you.
Speaker 2: Tolerated it for so long. It got inside of your
Speaker 2: husband and made him say things and move and do things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it got in him. You're talking about having a temper
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, that is a big sign.
Speaker 2: And if you feel it, then there's a problem. Like
Speaker 2: there's different levels of these things. Possessing people. Oppressing who
Speaker 2: they are is one of them. And again you're feeling this,
Speaker 2: so please please seek out help, and that is in
Speaker 2: the form of your spiritual guidance. Okay, I'm Christian. I
Speaker 2: would definitely reach out to a pastor, a minister, a deacon,
Speaker 2: a priest and let them know, like, look, this is
Speaker 2: what happened to us and we still kind of feel
Speaker 2: it lingering. It sounds crazy, but these things are patient,
Speaker 2: and if they made a mark and they're able to
Speaker 2: push that little button, that little street to tug on.
Speaker 2: They just might at the wrong moment, you just might
Speaker 2: make that split decision, wrong move, and it could be catastrophic.
Speaker 2: And of course keep up with your prayers and blessing yourself.
Speaker 2: And I do not take off my blessed cross necklace
Speaker 2: that I blessed you know, I use in my house.
Speaker 2: Blessing it helps, it helps, and you know, any bit
Speaker 2: of influence, any bit of light, all of it helps.
Speaker 2: I'd welcome you to go and check out my Facebook
Speaker 2: group that I mentioned at the beginning of the show,
Speaker 2: and definitely helps to talk to other people. All right,
Speaker 2: next email, this one says, Hi there, Well, hey, what's
Speaker 2: going on? Listening on youphamet now and appreciate the knowledge.
Speaker 2: Well that's cool, Well, thank you, I appreciate it. Eight
Speaker 2: years ago I saw something in my then boyfriend's house.
Speaker 2: I was in the living room and saw him walk
Speaker 2: from the bathroom to the bedroom in plain sight. The
Speaker 2: lights were off, so it looked like he was just
Speaker 2: a large shadow, but clear as day in terms of
Speaker 2: walking into the room. Then saw the actual hymn come
Speaker 2: into the living room from the opposite side, who did
Speaker 2: I see. Then I asked if there was any way
Speaker 2: he could have been in that other part of the
Speaker 2: house and short from hopping out of the window and
Speaker 2: running around the house in five seconds, it was impossible. Ooh,
Speaker 2: that's icky. I felt for years that this other thing
Speaker 2: I saw was supernatural, but not a ghost, perhaps a
Speaker 2: shadow being. However, after reading through your site, it seems
Speaker 2: that if it resembles a human, then it's not a
Speaker 2: shadow person. Any insight, Jessa, Oh, thanks for checking out website. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if it resembles a human, it is generally uh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's shadow people. They can manifest and kind of transform
Speaker 2: and shape shift to look like something else. Okay, they
Speaker 2: were never people. Hat Man looks like a person. But
Speaker 2: you're saying you saw this absolute figure that you would
Speaker 2: know what your boyfriend look like. So it's a doppelganger,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a replica of him. I have seen one.
Speaker 2: I have seen one, and it was very freaky. I
Speaker 2: saw the skin, the face, the smile, everything to look
Speaker 2: like one of my friends. And when I called them
Speaker 2: by the name, Oh, I get such achy chills. It's
Speaker 2: smiled a very unnatural, huge smile from ear to ear,
Speaker 2: like the joker because it was so pleased with itself
Speaker 2: that it had fooled me. So you saw a doppelganger,
Speaker 2: and it's something that is rather em It's not good.
Speaker 2: Why is it mimicking your boyfriend to fool you somehow? Right? Uh,
Speaker 2: there's other speculations about what doppel gangers are and why
Speaker 2: they do it. And maybe there's just a mimic, a
Speaker 2: mimic in the house. That's another thing, a mimic that
Speaker 2: would make you think, come to my room now, everything's
Speaker 2: fine over here. So it lures you, you know, and
Speaker 2: you might have followed him, and then what what would
Speaker 2: have happened? Who knows? You didn't follow him, thank god. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that was not a shadow being, that wasn't hat man.
Speaker 2: That was something pretending to be him for various reasons
Speaker 2: that were not good, no good at all. So why again,
Speaker 2: I know why the thing came to me and wanted
Speaker 2: to fool me, wanted me to let my guard down.
Speaker 2: And what would have happened if I did? Like I
Speaker 2: saw my friend, Oh, I'm just gonna chill here, turn
Speaker 2: my head to this thing. Uh uh eugh ikey stuff
Speaker 2: icky stuff. So I hope that was helpful. For you, Jessa,
Speaker 2: thank you for writing. So I got another short email.
Speaker 2: This one says on shadow people, I don't know what
Speaker 2: they are will we never will in this lifetime. I've
Speaker 2: seen them a lot. I'm actually writing this right now
Speaker 2: because I just saw one right in front of me,
Speaker 2: standing by my grandparent's bed while they sleep. I don't
Speaker 2: see them out of the corner of my eye, it's
Speaker 2: frontal vision. I'm a well read, intelligent person. However, what
Speaker 2: I mentioned i've seen one. I get put on a
Speaker 2: psych word and my meds are upped. Oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: one of the many injustices of having a mental illness.
Speaker 2: They aren't a facet of psychosis. If they were, why
Speaker 2: are so many reports of the same hallucination worldwide, even
Speaker 2: by people without mental illness at least a diagnosis. I
Speaker 2: just want to research this in other metaphysical phenomena, but
Speaker 2: need guidance. You know again, I'm not a doctor. I'm
Speaker 2: an occupational therapist. I try to help people become more
Speaker 2: independent in their way of living, thinking, being, anything and
Speaker 2: all of that. So I can't give you a straight up.
Speaker 2: This is why, you know. I have run into a
Speaker 2: lot of people who are said to have various struggles
Speaker 2: emotionally cognitively who claim to see these things and also,
Speaker 2: like you stated, people who don't have a diagnosis. You know,
Speaker 2: I think it's the level of how people handle it.
Speaker 2: Some people can't, some people can. It's a difficult thing,
Speaker 2: you know, and especially when people around you can't relate.
Speaker 2: You know, when I saw Jesus, I wanted to go
Speaker 2: to the highest mountain. I saw Jesus everybody you know,
Speaker 2: but I didn't because I knew. I know people are
Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh boy, here we go. So there's
Speaker 2: a level of delivery for myself, I'm saying. And I
Speaker 2: think that it's definitely something that there's a pace, right,
Speaker 2: there's a comfort level, you know, and it's like researching things.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people will overdo it and it's it gets to
Speaker 2: a level that, you know, are you ever going to
Speaker 2: find the answers? Like you said, you don't think so
Speaker 2: in this lifetime. Well, I'm telling you, Uh, information came
Speaker 2: to me by way of beings not quite from here
Speaker 2: and also my own memories of other places. Let's put
Speaker 2: it that way. And again, uh, you know, how do
Speaker 2: you deliver this? How do you talk about this? I
Speaker 2: knew it would be a challenge. I knew I had
Speaker 2: to create a balance and stick to it. But you know,
Speaker 2: everybody's got a different path. And again I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 2: I can't give you advice. You know, everybody's got their
Speaker 2: their way of going through this. So I want to
Speaker 2: thank you so much for reaching out, and I want
Speaker 2: to thank everybody else who reached out today. And don't
Speaker 2: forget go to Heidihollis dot com. Tell me your stories,
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Speaker 2: you dot com. I had a website up before people
Speaker 2: knew what the internet was, one of the top UFO
Speaker 2: websites out there and groups that I had for about
Speaker 2: fifteen years. So if you want to check it out,
Speaker 2: please do that. All right, we have come to the
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