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Speaker 2: Hollis on the iHeartRadio. Hey, Coast to Coast, I am

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Speaker 2: the Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each

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Speaker 2: week this is where you go through when you want

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Speaker 2: to learn the latest when it comes to anything I ordinary,

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Speaker 2: from shadow people to half Man to Bigfoot and ghosts

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Speaker 2: and angels, Jesus encounters. I don't care what is happening

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Speaker 2: in your neighborhood, in your family, in your mind. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to the strangeness of this planet, we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about it here. In fact, I invite you

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Speaker 2: the listener, to go to my main website, which is

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Speaker 2: Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot com and

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Speaker 2: tell me your stories. If you want me to talk

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Speaker 2: about a certain topic here on this program. This is

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Speaker 2: your opportunity. If there's something in the news, if there's

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Speaker 2: freaked out, found some answers, wrote about it, got over it,

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Speaker 2: and now I am trying to help other people do

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Speaker 2: you guys. You can also go and check out my

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Speaker 2: paranormal comic strip. It's called the Outlanders coomic dot com

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Speaker 2: or on Instagram at the Outlanders Comic and guess what.

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Speaker 2: On Facebook, I have a couple of groups because I

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Speaker 2: each other. Okay, Paranormal Pledge that is for anybody who

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Speaker 2: strange anymore paranormal. Let's make it normal. And also shadow

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Speaker 2: people and hat Man Experiencer. That group is about people

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Speaker 2: the source of the topic, which is me. Uh, and

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep the conversation going so it doesn't get

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Speaker 2: away from us. And uh, you know, I gotta tell

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Speaker 2: you on social media at one Heidi Hollis. That's put

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Speaker 2: I have some interesting video up there. And I am

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Speaker 2: They are not your friends. They are not there to

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Speaker 2: You do not want people to put their guard down.

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Speaker 2: You want people to put their foot in his back, okay,

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Speaker 2: This is not innocent. It is getting into personal space.

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Speaker 2: died and I'm telling you, in his after life, he

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00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: is the most active cat, okay, running all around having

426
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Speaker 2: a good old time. I saw him in the house.

427
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: My sister's kids have seen him running around. I mean,

428
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: he's just very active and he looks very solid, and

429
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: the kids are like, he's sitting on my bed, you know.

430
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's just Pyramid. You know, they're chill

431
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Speaker 2: about it. But imagine the next person coming in to

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Speaker 2: the house and they see a big black, big fanged

433
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: cat or running through. I always wondered, I'm like, they're

434
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh my gosh, we have a demon

435
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: cat running around. You know. It's it would be taken

436
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: out of perspective, right, it really would. I can understand

437
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: he's active but he's harmless, and I think he just

438
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: likes being around family, like, oh, nobody's bothering me, even

439
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: you know, they could see me still, but he was

440
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: just so painfully shy. He is just having the time

441
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Speaker 2: of his afterlife. And yeah, so it's just funny. So

442
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: I'm just listening to this. I'm like somebody's kiddy.

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Speaker 4: Cat, you know.

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00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Oh cool, you know that's exactly what would happen, somebody

445
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: pumping in my sister's house late. All right, So continuing,

446
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: one thing we didn't talk about was the black shadow.

447
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: Oh that would dart around just in our peripheral view.

448
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: We would explain everything away for the next two years

449
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: until our son was born in the fall of nineteen

450
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Speaker 2: ninety three. His presence in the mobile home escalated the activity.

451
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: You guys, this is common right here. A new baby

452
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: escalates paranormal activity. Food. Everybody that lunching like sound I

453
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: was talking about it's a dinner bell unexperienced soul coming

454
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: in and ooh, a little morsel in order. Okay, So

455
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: it escalated the activity to where we had to acknowledge

456
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: that something was going on. He was a very colicky baby,

457
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: so we didn't get much that first year, my husband

458
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: would get angry and punch holes in the walls. What

459
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: and even kicked a hole in the metal bottom of

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00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: the screen door. Yepes, Okay, that's not good. When our

461
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: son was old enough to walk, he would wake up

462
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: screaming and crying and running to our room. Every night

463
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: he would tell us about a man that played with

464
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Speaker 2: his toys and a green owl that watched him at night. Okay, okay, okay,

465
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: all right, I can imagine who the man is. Can

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Speaker 2: you guys raise your hand y? Yeah, you in the back?

467
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Speaker 4: Yep?

468
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: Hat man ah and watched him at night? A green ow?

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Speaker 2: Do you guys? You guys know what an owl represents?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say represents, but oftentimes people who have seen

472
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: aliens report seeing owl wolves in their bedroom. And you

473
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: think about it, the mesmerizing eyes. They just kind of

474
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: lock you in and hypnotize you to see other things.

475
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Speaker 2: And I'm not surprised hat man seen a right right

476
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: alongside of him. So AnyWho continuing here, there was also

477
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: red water dripping from the ceiling. Red water. Really. One night,

478
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: after calming him down and tucking him into our bed,

479
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: I sleepily walked down the hallway to his room to

480
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: turn off his night light. As soon as I did that,

481
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: I turned around and saw a large shadow of a

482
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: man ew ew just head, neck and shoulders. Oh oh oh, okay,

483
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: hold on all right, I wanna see where this goes.

484
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is the head and shoulder shadow,

485
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: because headed shoulder shadow for you guys that don't know,

486
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: have it on my website Heidihollis dot com. And there's

487
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: this this rounded shoulder thing. It doesn't have much of

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Speaker 2: a neck. Oh, she says, there's a neck, but uh,

489
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see. I'll continue with the description. But

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00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: head and shoulder shadow just kind of loosely looks like

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Speaker 2: a guy standing there, but he usually doesn't have a neck,

492
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: so maybe she is talking about hat man. Okay, so

493
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: just head, neck and shoulders on the door. You saw

494
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: a large shadow of a man head, neck and shoulders

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00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: on the door leading out of the room. It was

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00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: darker than the unlit room. There goes that darkness again.

497
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: I froze terrified, with the word evil screaming in my mind.

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00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I have such chills right now. It

499
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: hit the back of my elbows, tops of my thighs. Ugh.

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00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: The black figure seemed to stare back at me. It

501
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: tilted its head to one side, as if to say, well, now,

502
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Speaker 2: I guess you can finally see me. Ough ouh iky

503
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: iky Oh, my chills, they have grown, they have doubled.

504
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: Then it started around to the back of the door,

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00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: lightning fast, and was gone, oh oh oh, okay, I'm

506
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not kidding you. I'm like, absolutely filled with goosebumps.

507
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that you see a shadow and you're like, oh,

508
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: it kind of looks like a man. Oh my god,

509
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 2: it's tipping its head and it ran. That's horrifying. That's horrifying.

510
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: I flew out of that room and woke up my husband.

511
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: All I could say was made and in room, pointing

512
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: down the hall. I'm sure you're frozen in fear. I'm

513
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: absolutely feeling it.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

515
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: My husband was in that room pounding on the walls

516
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: and yelling for it to get out of our home.

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00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: You know, you guys, I have synesthesia, Okay, I've talked

518
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: about that mirror touch synesthesia where I could feel other

519
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: people in that when I say I'm getting these goosebumps

520
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: right now, and that anger and that terror, it just

521
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: it hits me so hard sometimes and I'm feeling it.

522
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: I moved our son into our room the next day

523
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: and closed his bedroom off.

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Speaker 4: I don't blame you.

525
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: We all slept together every night. I hung a picture

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Speaker 2: of Jesus in our bedroom and had the church bless

527
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 2: a cross necklace for us each to wear. That's a

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00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: amazing I wear my cross necklace all the time. I

529
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: don't take it off, but I blessed it myself because

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Speaker 2: it's true. Your faith is stronger than the next person,

531
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: because it's yours, right, makes it more personal, all right? Continuing,

532
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: one night, we were all woke up by a loud

533
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: banging on our bedroom door. Oh that's move out day.

534
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: That's the move out day, everybody. That's when you go

535
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: and get those bags, and you're like, I don't care

536
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: what's in this house. I'm just gonna go now, and

537
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wave goodbye, slowly, slowly.

538
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: I'm done.

539
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: I'm done. Something's at the bedroom door, not the house door,

540
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 2: but the bedroom door. I just I don't, I don't

541
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Speaker 2: even I just can't. I just can't. I just imagine

542
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: that what that kid was going through. Imagine Okay, all right,

543
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: you know I gotta finish this email after the break.

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Speaker 2: If you guys don't forget to go check out theother

545
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Speaker 2: f word dot com is my books on faith for

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Speaker 2: children and adults, and I think you will dig it.

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Speaker 2: All right, you guys, you are listening to darktcoms Light

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Speaker 2: with me hey Hollis on iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast

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Speaker 2: a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll be written, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Dark Becomes Lights with me Heidi

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Speaker 2: Hollis on iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast he AM

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Speaker 2: Paranormal Podcast Network. Thanks just for the break. I was

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00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: reading about a horrific email with something pounding at these

554
00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: people's bedroom door. Ugh, I just can't imagine. Let's continue,

555
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: but I want to remind you guys to go to

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00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: Heidihollis dot com and write and tell me your personal stories,

557
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 2: what is going on in your world, and I will

558
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: absolutely address it here on this program and also follow

559
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: me at one Hidie Hollis on most social media. All right,

560
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: this one continues to say. My husband and I looked

561
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: at each other and both said, I am not opening

562
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: that door. That's funny. I wouldn't either. This is not

563
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: the movies. That's your life. Another night, this is so funny,

564
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: our ten gallon fish tank exploded and we rushed to

565
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: clean up the water and save the fish. Always during

566
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: the daylight, we would catch glimpses of the shadow figure

567
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: darting around. One weekend, my husband sat me down and

568
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: told me that I had to move our son back

569
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: into his old room. Okay, guys, this is crazy. Messing

570
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: with your fish too, That's that's crazy. I was so

571
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: mad at him. I said that I would never do

572
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: that and walked away from him. M Later on, I

573
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: would find out that he had no memory of doing

574
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: such a thing. You, guys, do you see that hat

575
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 2: man possessed him to feed his kid back to him?

576
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: Do you hear this? So he got possessed, guys, absolutely possessed. Wow,

577
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: after five years we moved out. Five years in five minutes.

578
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 2: For me, I still wonder if my husband and I

579
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: might carry around some of the darkness of that shadow

580
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: person within us. Within interesting choice of words, I feel

581
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: a darkness in me and my husband has some anger issues.

582
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: Do you think that it is possible after all of

583
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: these years? Dedy, Yes, INDEEDYDDI mm hmm. I said that

584
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but yes I do. I do believe. So

585
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: these things are patient. It doesn't matter the time. I've

586
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: had people that played the wich aboard once in their

587
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 2: childhood and they get this thing coming at them, and

588
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: it takes a psychic or somebody else saying hey, I

589
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: just had a vision that you were playing with a

590
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: wich aboard and that's what conjured this thing up.

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00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, and that you.

592
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: Tolerated it for so long. It got inside of your

593
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: husband and made him say things and move and do things. Yeah,

594
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: it got in him. You're talking about having a temper

595
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, that is a big sign.

596
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: And if you feel it, then there's a problem. Like

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00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: there's different levels of these things. Possessing people. Oppressing who

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00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: they are is one of them. And again you're feeling this,

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00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: so please please seek out help, and that is in

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00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: the form of your spiritual guidance. Okay, I'm Christian. I

601
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: would definitely reach out to a pastor, a minister, a deacon,

602
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: a priest and let them know, like, look, this is

603
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: what happened to us and we still kind of feel

604
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: it lingering. It sounds crazy, but these things are patient,

605
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: and if they made a mark and they're able to

606
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: push that little button, that little street to tug on.

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00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: They just might at the wrong moment, you just might

608
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: make that split decision, wrong move, and it could be catastrophic.

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00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: And of course keep up with your prayers and blessing yourself.

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00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 2: And I do not take off my blessed cross necklace

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00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: that I blessed you know, I use in my house.

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00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: Blessing it helps, it helps, and you know, any bit

613
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: of influence, any bit of light, all of it helps.

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00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: I'd welcome you to go and check out my Facebook

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00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: group that I mentioned at the beginning of the show,

616
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: and definitely helps to talk to other people. All right,

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00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: next email, this one says, Hi there, Well, hey, what's

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00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: going on? Listening on youphamet now and appreciate the knowledge.

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Speaker 2: Well that's cool, Well, thank you, I appreciate it. Eight

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00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: years ago I saw something in my then boyfriend's house.

621
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Speaker 2: I was in the living room and saw him walk

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00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: from the bathroom to the bedroom in plain sight. The

623
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: lights were off, so it looked like he was just

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00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: a large shadow, but clear as day in terms of

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00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: walking into the room. Then saw the actual hymn come

626
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: into the living room from the opposite side, who did

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00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: I see. Then I asked if there was any way

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00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: he could have been in that other part of the

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Speaker 2: house and short from hopping out of the window and

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Speaker 2: running around the house in five seconds, it was impossible. Ooh,

631
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Speaker 2: that's icky. I felt for years that this other thing

632
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: I saw was supernatural, but not a ghost, perhaps a

633
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: shadow being. However, after reading through your site, it seems

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Speaker 2: that if it resembles a human, then it's not a

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Speaker 2: shadow person. Any insight, Jessa, Oh, thanks for checking out website. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if it resembles a human, it is generally uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's shadow people. They can manifest and kind of transform

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00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: and shape shift to look like something else. Okay, they

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00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: were never people. Hat Man looks like a person. But

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Speaker 2: you're saying you saw this absolute figure that you would

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00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: know what your boyfriend look like. So it's a doppelganger,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a replica of him. I have seen one.

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00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: I have seen one, and it was very freaky. I

644
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: saw the skin, the face, the smile, everything to look

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Speaker 2: like one of my friends. And when I called them

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Speaker 2: by the name, Oh, I get such achy chills. It's

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00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: smiled a very unnatural, huge smile from ear to ear,

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Speaker 2: like the joker because it was so pleased with itself

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00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: that it had fooled me. So you saw a doppelganger,

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Speaker 2: and it's something that is rather em It's not good.

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Speaker 2: Why is it mimicking your boyfriend to fool you somehow? Right? Uh,

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Speaker 2: there's other speculations about what doppel gangers are and why

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Speaker 2: they do it. And maybe there's just a mimic, a

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00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: mimic in the house. That's another thing, a mimic that

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Speaker 2: would make you think, come to my room now, everything's

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00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: fine over here. So it lures you, you know, and

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00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 2: you might have followed him, and then what what would

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00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: have happened? Who knows? You didn't follow him, thank god. Yeah,

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00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: so that was not a shadow being, that wasn't hat man.

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Speaker 2: That was something pretending to be him for various reasons

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00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: that were not good, no good at all. So why again,

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Speaker 2: I know why the thing came to me and wanted

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00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 2: to fool me, wanted me to let my guard down.

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Speaker 2: And what would have happened if I did? Like I

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00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: saw my friend, Oh, I'm just gonna chill here, turn

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00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: my head to this thing. Uh uh eugh ikey stuff

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00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: icky stuff. So I hope that was helpful. For you, Jessa,

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00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: thank you for writing. So I got another short email.

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Speaker 2: This one says on shadow people, I don't know what

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00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: they are will we never will in this lifetime. I've

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00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: seen them a lot. I'm actually writing this right now

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00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: because I just saw one right in front of me,

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Speaker 2: standing by my grandparent's bed while they sleep. I don't

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00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: see them out of the corner of my eye, it's

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00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: frontal vision. I'm a well read, intelligent person. However, what

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00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: I mentioned i've seen one. I get put on a

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Speaker 2: psych word and my meds are upped. Oh, I'm sorry,

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00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: one of the many injustices of having a mental illness.

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00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: They aren't a facet of psychosis. If they were, why

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00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: are so many reports of the same hallucination worldwide, even

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00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: by people without mental illness at least a diagnosis. I

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00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: just want to research this in other metaphysical phenomena, but

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00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: need guidance. You know again, I'm not a doctor. I'm

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00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: an occupational therapist. I try to help people become more

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00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: independent in their way of living, thinking, being, anything and

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00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: all of that. So I can't give you a straight up.

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Speaker 2: This is why, you know. I have run into a

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Speaker 2: lot of people who are said to have various struggles

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00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: emotionally cognitively who claim to see these things and also,

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00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: like you stated, people who don't have a diagnosis. You know,

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00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: I think it's the level of how people handle it.

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00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: Some people can't, some people can. It's a difficult thing,

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00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: you know, and especially when people around you can't relate.

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Speaker 2: You know, when I saw Jesus, I wanted to go

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Speaker 2: to the highest mountain. I saw Jesus everybody you know,

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00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: but I didn't because I knew. I know people are

697
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh boy, here we go. So there's

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00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: a level of delivery for myself, I'm saying. And I

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00:48:54,360 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: think that it's definitely something that there's a pace, right,

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00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: there's a comfort level, you know, and it's like researching things.

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00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes people will overdo it and it's it gets to

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Speaker 2: a level that, you know, are you ever going to

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Speaker 2: find the answers? Like you said, you don't think so

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Speaker 2: in this lifetime. Well, I'm telling you, Uh, information came

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00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: to me by way of beings not quite from here

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Speaker 2: and also my own memories of other places. Let's put

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Speaker 2: it that way. And again, uh, you know, how do

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Speaker 2: you deliver this? How do you talk about this? I

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00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: knew it would be a challenge. I knew I had

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Speaker 2: to create a balance and stick to it. But you know,

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00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: everybody's got a different path. And again I'm not a doctor.

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00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: I can't give you advice. You know, everybody's got their

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Speaker 2: their way of going through this. So I want to

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for reaching out, and I want

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Speaker 2: to thank everybody else who reached out today. And don't

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Speaker 2: knew what the internet was, one of the top UFO

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Speaker 2: websites out there and groups that I had for about

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Speaker 2: please do that. All right, we have come to the

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Speaker 2: bottom of another fabulous program. You have been listening to

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