1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 2: Let's go. 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Let's Giants give me some job. Part of the Giants 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Let's roll. We're back for another edition of 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: official bank of the Giants. I am John Schmelk. Today 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: it's the inside linebackers. They play off ball, they play 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: the run, they got to play the pass as well. 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Interesting group that the leaders of that defense. Right in 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: the middle of it, between the defensive line and the secondary. 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Here are the off ball linebackers and that We're joined 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: by Giants linebacker Mike and mcfatt and Michael. What's going on? Man? 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: It's funny. We are doing great. We had we had 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Daniel Bell Whin You're here and I'm like, I feel 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: like you just got here. But now all of a sudden, 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: you're like a vet Like is that weird for you too? 17 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 18 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: It is strange. It's crazy how quick you know, the 19 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: past few years have gone. And you know, I can 20 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: think it's weird seeing all the rookies come in because 21 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: you know, I can remember those those type of days 22 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: and you know how long they are during this time 23 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: of the year, and just uh, you know, kind of 24 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: being in your own little bubble, you know, as a rookie, 25 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: and then you know, getting the experience I've got and 26 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: out of this year. So it's it's gone by pretty quick. 27 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been good. 28 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: What's the growth process process been like for you? What 29 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: did it meet expectations of what you thought it was 30 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: going to be heading into the league Now that you're 31 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: heading into it to where you are now was a 32 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: little bit different? What was just like? What was it like? 33 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 34 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: I mean I think you always come in, you know, expect, 35 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: you expect, you know whatever you expect yourself. You have 36 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: high expectations and you want to go in and play 37 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: and and you know, start fast. But you know, the 38 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: NFL has a learning curve to it, and I think 39 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: and as a rookie, a lot of people learned that 40 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: and I especially did, and I was lucky enough to 41 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: get you know, some experience my first year and and 42 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: going into year two. 43 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: I felt more comfortable. 44 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: And I think each year it's just kind of it 45 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: slowed down a little bit for me, especially on the field. 46 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm excited, excited for this year and you know, 47 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: to get into the second year within Shane's defense, and uh, 48 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: you know, pick off, pick up where we left off. 49 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: How much does it help a defense to be with 50 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: the same coach for a second year and then how 51 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: much more do you think he's going to be able 52 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: to do given a the pieces as you've added and 53 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: the guys being in the system for that second year. 54 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean I think it helps a lot. 55 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: Communication I think is the most important thing within the defense, 56 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: and when you have that first year under your belt 57 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: and guys have an understanding that's that's a little bit 58 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 3: more complex in the first year in the system. I 59 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: think it helps a lot. So, you know, I think 60 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 3: we've experienced a little bit throughout OTAs and what we've 61 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: been able to do so far and moving in here 62 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: to mini camp, But yeah, I think, you know, and 63 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: obviously the additions we have and the and the veteran 64 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: guys that we brought in on defense, the guys who 65 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: have experience and know what it looks like. And yeah, 66 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: I think Shane's going to be able to do a lot. 67 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I think he already has. 68 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: And there's some little nuances we've changed since last year 69 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 3: and small things that will help us play faster and 70 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: be able to make plays. 71 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: On the back end. 72 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we're doing a lot of good 73 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: things right now, and I think we just got to, 74 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: you know, keep up the communication part and and we'll 75 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: be good. 76 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: When we spoke here at this time last year, you 77 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: talked about how you felt like you were oftentimes in 78 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: the right position and to make the plays. Maybe you 79 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: didn't finish as many plays you'll to finish. Did you 80 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: think you cleaned that up as much as you wanted 81 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: to last year? 82 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 3: I think I did to a certain extent. Yeah, I 83 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: think there's still a lot left on the on the 84 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: plate for me, and you know, I'm looking to go get. 85 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: That this year. 86 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think, you know, last year was was 87 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: a step in the right direction for sure. And you know, 88 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: I feel like I've said that, you know, each year 89 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: moving forward. But I think I got a lot of 90 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: room to grow and I'm excited to take that next step. 91 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: What did you see from Darius in all the opportunities 92 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: he had to play late last year after Bobby's. 93 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: Injury, and we saw a lot. I think, you know, 94 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: Darius is gonna be a great football player. I think 95 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: every time he got his opportunity, he came in whenever 96 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: whatever position he needed to come in, whatever he needed 97 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: to know. I think he for a rookie, he did 98 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: a really good job. And I tell him that all 99 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: the time. I'm like, man, he played a lot better 100 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: than I did as a rookie, and it only gets 101 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: you know, it only slows down even more and you 102 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: only get more experience and all that help. So I'm 103 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: excited for him moving forward. And yeah, I think he 104 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: did a really good job for us last year, and 105 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: I think he'll continue to do that moving forward. 106 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: You mentioned you think there's a lot of meat on 107 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: the bone left for you, a lot more room to grow. 108 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: Where are you focusing on this year in areas that 109 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: you're trying to improve a kind of thing, that next step. 110 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: As a player, I think, you know, I think it's 111 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: kind of been a theme for me throughout my career. 112 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: But I think I could make a lot more tackles, 113 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: and the ones that I'm missing aren't aren't all bad. 114 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: But I think there's a lot I can learn from 115 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: and I can I can do a better job of 116 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: finishing that I think on the back end and making 117 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: plays and you know, and coverage and whether it's man 118 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: a man or zone or whatever, we're doing. 119 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I think I can improve on that. 120 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: I think I've done a good job in the past, 121 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: but I think I can I can do even better. 122 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: And I'm looking forward to training camp and being able 123 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: to work on all that, especially against other teams. So yeah, 124 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: I'm excited about it. 125 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: Finally, for guys like you and Bobby who have to 126 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: run the defense, be the communicators and lead and so 127 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: much of playing linebackers feel understanding gap wereing the offense 128 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: based off the scheme where you have to go, specifically 129 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: for the linebackers, being in this scheme for a second year, 130 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: in understanding exactly what the defensive quarter defensive coordinator wants 131 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: from you guys, specifically against the run, where can you, guys, 132 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: you think make the biggest jump just being better on 133 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: first and second downs and not allowing some of those 134 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: explosive runs that really broke the back of the defense 135 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: last year in a lot of those spots. 136 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, playing first and second down 137 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: is going to be good. First and second down is 138 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: gonna be critical for us. I think, you know, making 139 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: plays behind the scrimmage if we can do that. But 140 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: to your point, yeah, not letting them get you know, 141 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: if they do break one through the line of scrimmage, 142 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: I think, you know, us or the safeties or the 143 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: DB's got to come up and make a play, but 144 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: make sure it stops at ten or twelve. It doesn't 145 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: go to twenty or. 146 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: Thirty or twelve. It was fine, butty is gonna kill you. 147 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to you know, limit those 148 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: explosives and and you know they get paid too. There's 149 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: gonna be good plays by the other team. But making 150 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: sure that you know, when we can get a guy 151 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: down or we can prevent a long play or consecutive 152 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: long plays. I think I think that'll be a huge 153 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: step for us. And I think you know, it's been 154 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 3: something we've we've emphasized throughout this camp, and I'm excited 155 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: to see it show up during the season. 156 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: Finally, when you went back and you looked at those 157 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: last year, was it more of a matter of guys 158 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: just missing tackles or was it guys not being where 159 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: they were supposed to be at the right time that 160 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: allowed some of those explosives. 161 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: A little bit of both, I think I think more 162 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: than anything, it comes down to the technique. I think 163 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: most pretty much everybody on our team is smart enough 164 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: and knows exactly where they need to be and is 165 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: usually in the right position depending on the call. But 166 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: it usually comes down to technique. I think it's you know, 167 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: our angles, whether we're taking the right angle to the 168 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: ball or tracking the right hip, or you know, keeping leverage, 169 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: or knowing when you have help. If you're you know, 170 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: making a vice tackle and you know you have a 171 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: guy outside, then you can just stay stay on your 172 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 3: inside track and make the tackle that way. But I 173 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: think it always comes down to the technique and fundamentals 174 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: and the thing we talk about it it's falling back 175 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: on your preparation and the work we've put into to perfect. 176 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: Those little things. 177 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we've done a great job this 178 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 3: camp and I'm excited to see it come to fruition 179 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: during training camp. 180 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: Michael, thanks man. That's luck this year, dude, for sure. 181 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. Now we're joined by Giants linebacker on special 182 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: teams Ace Chris Ford. Chris how ware Man. 183 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 5: I'm doing well, man, very blessed. 184 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: How are you. 185 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. So we spoke when you got here 186 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: and you talked about what you're anticipating would be like 187 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: to be here. But now you've been here for a 188 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: few months, so has your experience matched what your anticipation was? 189 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 5: Honestly? Has been better than expected. Honest so obviously that 190 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 5: my teammates are a lot better than I thought. And 191 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 5: the system has been pretty Uh it's been a smooth 192 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 5: transition for the most part. So it's been going well 193 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: and I look forward. 194 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: To the fault. 195 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: What do you like about the system? 196 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 5: It's a lot of a lot of carryover from Baltimore. 197 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: I know, defensive special teams are both. 198 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 5: Defensively special teams wise, I think the concepts are the same. 199 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 5: I think you can't really change too much special teams wise, 200 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 5: but defensively, I know we had a previous coordinator that 201 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 5: was here a while back, so the terms are similar, 202 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: the concepts are similar. 203 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: So, oh that's interesting. What is it about Shane Bones 204 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: defense that you like? 205 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 5: Again, it's a little earlier right now, of course, but 206 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: I think just the mentality just of I think blissing 207 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 5: and then being able to cover man the man is 208 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 5: is something that I definitely like and I definitely think 209 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: I'll thrive in given an opportunity. 210 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: So you get a feel, because I'll be honest with you, 211 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: last year there wasn't a ton of blitzing and playing. Man, 212 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: you sense that's going to be a bigger part of 213 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen this year. 214 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 5: I hope so, but again, I'm just playing my roller 215 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 5: or doing whatever in my ass, so. 216 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Of course, absolutely, well, this will be an easier question. 217 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: What do you think about the big defensive lineman that 218 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: it can be in front of the linebackers? You guys 219 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: try to chase the ball. 220 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 5: For sure. It's definitely a blessing to have guys like 221 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 5: big decks and not in front of me to definitely 222 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 5: eat up a lot of double teams and stuff. So 223 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 5: as a linebacker, that's something you always want and definitely 224 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 5: I'm definitely thankful to have them for sure. 225 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: What has the linebacker room been like? Working with Bobby, 226 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: working with Micah, working with Demetrius. He's new year, Darius, 227 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: a younger guy coming along. What is that room like? 228 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 5: Nothing but good dudes, man, We're I wouldn't say a 229 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 5: young group, got a lot of veterans, a couple of 230 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 5: young guys, but it's been nothing but good vibes ever 231 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 5: since I've been there. So definitely look forward to playing 232 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: with them in the fall. 233 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, yeah, have you sent any goals for 234 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: yourself here at first you're with the Giants. 235 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 5: As far as my goals, I think special teams wise, 236 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 5: I like to improve on KR and then my production 237 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 5: on punting kickoff, getting more tackles, and then defensively whenever 238 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 5: I come in, just make a more impactful plays. 239 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: So for the fans, I know k is kickoff return, 240 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: What is it about kickoff return that you want to 241 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: get better at? 242 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 5: Just my blocking, honestly sustaining blocks and just being a 243 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 5: better blocker. 244 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: So that's interesting because you've been doing special teams a 245 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: long time. Is that something each offseason you pick out 246 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: one or two things that you want to try to 247 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: make sure you get better at or or what's that 248 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: process like for you? 249 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, You're always striving to be better and the best 250 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 5: version of yourself. I just noticed last year koor was 251 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 5: one of the things that I could have been better at. 252 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 5: So just getting better at blocking is some that I 253 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: kind of picked up. 254 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: I do get the sense that coverage teams, it's very 255 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: important for the Giants this year. They bringing you obviously 256 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: be not good, really good at that to meet your 257 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: flanning and fouls. There is also I think very similar 258 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: to his approaches you are. Do you feel like that's 259 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: a real focus here, just making sure those kick coverage 260 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: and punk coverage units are really good to help feel 261 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: positioned as much as you can. 262 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it'll be a huge issue with like 263 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 5: the new rule. They're moving the yard line up, so 264 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 5: I think more balls will be in play for sure, 265 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 5: So being able to cover it is gonna be critical. 266 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: What did you think of the new kickoff role now 267 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: that you've kind of been through it for a year 268 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: and you kind of saw what it is like? What 269 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on it? 270 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 5: Me personally, I don't I don't like it. I like, 271 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 5: actually like running up to the line and kind of 272 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 5: get a full head of steam as I go. But 273 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 5: I understand the concussion reasons and all that thing why 274 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 5: they change the rule, but I personally like the old rules. 275 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, it is what it is. 276 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: Chris, good stuff, man, I appreciate it, Thank you man. 277 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: The Giants Total Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, 278 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: the official bank of the Giants. From game day celebrations 279 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: to your everyday financial needs, Big Blue fans can get 280 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: the most out of every moment with Citizens. 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Were you to be able to get back 292 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: on the field late last year and finally have all 293 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: that hard work payoff? 294 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: Man? 295 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 6: I was very excited, very excited, like you said, just 296 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 6: to see all the hard work payoff that I've been 297 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 6: putting in all throughout the season. 298 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: Just to be able to put that on show and 299 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 2: be able to put everything together. It felt good. It 300 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: felt great to be out there with the guys. 301 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: Did you have any idea when the injury happened in 302 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: the summer that it would take that long? No, I 303 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: definitely didn't. 304 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 6: Definitely didn't think it was gonna take that long, but 305 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 6: just trusting the medical staff in there, just trusting the 306 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 6: sets that they put me through as far as training 307 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 6: and getting back right. So but just as glad to 308 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 6: get back out there as soon as possible. 309 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: From our perspective, it looked like you were making a 310 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: ton of plays and you were playing some really good 311 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: football before the injury happened. Was that did you feel 312 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: that as well? 313 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely. 314 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 6: I definitely felt like I was in my groove that 315 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 6: preseason game against the Lions, made a couple of plays. 316 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 6: Unfortunately ended early due to the injury, but I definitely 317 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 6: felt like I was out there flying around making plays 318 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 6: for sure. 319 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: Have you been able to pick up you think where 320 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: you left off? I know it's so much time where 321 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: you weren't on the field. Have you do you think 322 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: slid back? Have you gotten back to where you were 323 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: at that time or even past. 324 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: Where you were then? 325 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: Oh? 326 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely definitely coming back. I definitely had to knock 327 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 6: some of the rest off off the shoulder pads, but definitely. 328 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 6: I mean it's football. I've been, you know, doing it 329 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 6: my whole life, so it doesn't take you want to 330 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 6: get back into the groove. So I wouldn't say it 331 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 6: was too much of an adjustment. 332 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: Now that you've seen this defense in action for a 333 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: year and you know with how they're trying to operate, 334 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: how do you see yourself fitting in on defense and 335 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: where do you think your strengths can help this defense 336 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: the most? 337 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 6: Really, just in any way I can, anyway Shane sees it, 338 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 6: anywhere he puts me out. I'm gonna just try to 339 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 6: excel at my role the best I can and just 340 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 6: how to try to help this team win in anywhere 341 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 6: I can, honestly. 342 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: And of course Special Teams is a big part of 343 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the art as well, and they brought in a couple 344 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: of really good veterans special teams player and planning and 345 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: fouls and board. What have you kind of learned from 346 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: those guys in terms of continuing to develop as a 347 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: Special Teams player? 348 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm in their head every day, just as 349 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 6: far as like technique, just as far as just disengagement 350 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 6: tools they use on kickoff koor, just anything they got, 351 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 6: especially punt. I feel like Chris and like you said, 352 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 6: playing there, those are experienced guys. They've been around for 353 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 6: a long time, especially core for a players, So I 354 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 6: feel like I've been in their head every day. It's 355 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 6: trying to get little gems from them, little you know, 356 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 6: move different techniques I can every day and try to 357 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 6: apply it to my game. 358 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: Dude, We can't wait to see you have another big 359 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: opportunity make some plays and earn your way back on 360 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: through the field. Most definitely good stuff. You appreciate it, man, 361 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. And now we're joined by Giants linebacker Bobby Okake. Bobby, 362 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: what's up? 363 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: Bro? 364 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 7: So brother? 365 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: All right? 366 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: So how are we doing? Good? 367 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: Second year in this defense with Shane Bowen for a linebacker. 368 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: I just hope to mikel mcsad about this. How does 369 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: that make a difference for you in terms of just 370 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: understanding exactly what he wants from you and you being 371 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: able to execute what he wants from you. 372 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, big time. It's really just about decision making and 373 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: playing with quickness. Honestly, this is a complex defense. There's 374 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: a lot of moving parts. So year two, you know, 375 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: understanding it, understanding how he's coaching it, understanding how I 376 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 4: need to play play it. Having a whole year of 377 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: film to study off of, I feel like I'm in 378 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: a great spot. 379 00:13:58,679 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: How's the back, by the way you feel? 380 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: All right? Yeah? 381 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 4: Back is great, really good. I rehabbed it all off seasons. 382 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 4: Shout out my guys, justin Moochie and all the boys. 383 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: No surgery, nothing like that. 384 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: No surgery and nothing, just rehab. 385 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 4: Just hanging upside down a little bit. 386 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: That's it, stretched out the old spine. 387 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little decompression. 388 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: Now. Curious as to this because a couple of defensive 389 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: players have brought us with what I'm even asking. Have 390 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: you seen adjustments from Shane now that a he's gotten 391 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: some new personnel and on the back end, specifically on 392 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: upfront not so much on your level, but Chris Borden, 393 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: Demejia Flanning and fall fouls too as well. But have 394 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: you seen adjustments in terms of the types of calls 395 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: and the types of things he's going to ask you 396 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: guys to do, where he's adjusting his scheme to the 397 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: strengths of his players. 398 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: I have, and that's been the growing process of it all. Obviously, 399 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: players can come back with a better understanding, are learning 400 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: the techniques that they're coaching more and you know, doing 401 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: better at what they're asking of us. But coaching, they've 402 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: done a great job too of just listening to the players, 403 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: especially the new guys Jon and paulsm have come in 404 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: and yeah, playing to our strengths and you know, just 405 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: getting us as as cohesive as un as possible. 406 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: And I know Shane wants a disguise on defense. That's 407 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: a big part of who does especially in the back end. Right, 408 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: and look, there's nothing taking away from the guys, but 409 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: last year, you guys have played a bunch of rookies 410 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: in second year guys, it's a lot to ask. They're 411 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out the defense. It's hard to ask 412 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: them to figure out the defense. But at the same time, 413 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: well show them this, then do that, run here, then 414 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: at the snap you run there. Yep, that's a big ask. 415 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be able to do a lot more 416 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: of that given the edit experience to the guys still 417 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: here and then also the veterans in the back end 418 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: he brought in should. 419 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: Be Yeah, we got a lot of veteran presence. Javon 420 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: is a leader, former captain. He's a great communicator in 421 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: the back end. Paulson and Debo is an extreme professional. 422 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: He communicates as the corner position and he's rounds and 423 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: the Stanford guys man. You know, they say you could 424 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: you could tell a Stafford guy. You just can't tell 425 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: him much. But yeah, it's been good. You know, we're 426 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: growing and growing every day and we're getting better we're 427 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: excited for training camp. 428 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: You mentioned Holland what does he bring as a leader 429 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: in the back end? 430 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: Just communication, communication, and presence. You know, he's got that calm, cool, 431 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: collected demeanor. He's got poised back there, so he puts 432 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: everybody at ease, just with the way he goes about 433 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: his business. 434 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I know you weren't completely thrilled with how last season 435 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: went for you. Are you very optimistic that it's gonna 436 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: more look like Bobby Okay here from two years ago 437 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: this year than the Bobby from last year. 438 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm exciting. Like I said earlier, I'm thinking a 439 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 4: lot less. I understand the defense at a way higher level, 440 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: and I'm playing a lot faster. 441 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm just excited start making more plays. 442 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: And we can't wait to see it. Bobby, good stuff. Man, 443 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, dude, thank you. If you want to know 444 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: how to manage two minutes of crunch time football, I'm 445 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: your man. But if you're wondering about a long term 446 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: financial plan, you should talk to citizens. 447 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd like to 448 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: learn about an Mollia routine. 449 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I knew I could help make sense of your 450 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: money with citizens, And now We're joined by Giants second 451 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: year linebacker Daris Moosaw. Daris, how worry man, I'm good, John. 452 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 7: How you doing? 453 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: So? Where do you think you've taken the biggest step 454 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: from when you said down me at the same time 455 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: last year, before your rookie year really got started and 456 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: you were still swimming some kind of where you are today. 457 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 7: I think I just learned how to become a pro. 458 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 7: I think that's the biggest thing, transitioning from college where 459 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 7: you know, we were balancing both school, you know, our 460 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 7: home life and football and all that. But now I 461 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 7: get to the pros, get to the league. Now I'm 462 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 7: just football is my all time job. So just learning 463 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 7: how to become a pro and handling that, learning how 464 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 7: to take care of my body, you know, how to 465 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 7: study film, learning from the veterans, building a routine every 466 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 7: day is what I really learned throughout this past year. 467 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 7: And I developed and you know, kind of made my 468 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 7: own routine, and you know, I felt like I had 469 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 7: a good year, blessed to be here, and you know, 470 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 7: very grateful for this opportunity. 471 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: Now, I'm sure you probably got a little bit more 472 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: playing time on defense than you thought you would at 473 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: the end of the year, which I'm sure is very 474 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: valuable for you. Yes, what do you think you learned 475 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: on the field in those final you know month or 476 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: two of the year that maybe you didn't quite get 477 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: doing the special team stuff in the meeting room stuff 478 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: before you really got that opportunity. 479 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll say, just experience. Experience, that's you know, you 480 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 7: can't take that for granted, especially in the league. Once 481 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 7: you get on the field, you got to take advantage 482 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 7: of the opportunities, you know, no matter how it presents itself, 483 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 7: whether it's special teams or on defense, like you said, 484 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 7: and I was very grateful to to be on that field, 485 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 7: you know. You know, but it's unfortunate that BOBBYO and 486 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 7: Michael went down due to injuries and all that. But 487 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 7: you know, that's that's the beast of the animal of 488 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 7: the of the NFL. You know, just guys always go down. 489 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 7: It's the next man up mentality. And so you know, 490 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 7: having great guys like Bobby O and Michael McFadden and 491 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 7: our and our linebacker coach Coach Eggs just you know, 492 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 7: leading taking lead in that in our room and just 493 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 7: being able to coach me up and not just me, 494 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 7: but also other guys that had to step up as well. 495 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 7: We had Ty Summers had to start a game. We 496 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 7: had the Antony Johnson had to step up for a game. 497 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 7: So just having guys like that just very mature and uh, 498 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 7: you know, having that mentality to where you know they 499 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 7: can step up and you know, not really leave leave off, 500 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 7: you know where where Bobby and Michael was, but just 501 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 7: to you know, keep it going, keep up that temple. 502 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 7: And you know, as far as making plays and being 503 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 7: productive on the field. 504 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: Did you sense the games start to slow down for 505 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: you a little bit as you got more of those 506 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: reps in the final couple months. 507 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, for sure. 508 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: You know. 509 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 7: So I started the first first week, Week one against 510 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 7: the Minnesota Viking because Michael was down that week, and man, 511 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 7: my head was going all over the place. You know, 512 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 7: that was my welcome to the NFL moment. I'm lining 513 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 7: up against Simon Donald, you know, he got Justin Jefferson, 514 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 7: all those guys that I grew up watching, Like these 515 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 7: guys are all my fantasy teams growing up and and 516 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 7: all that, but now like I'm going against them. 517 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: So that was really crazy. 518 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 7: And then as the time went on, Michaeh came back, 519 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 7: and so I was sitting behind Bobby O and Michael 520 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 7: McFadden learning from them, learning how you know, how they 521 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 7: adapt and they learned from the game and how they 522 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 7: watch film and how they go out and just play 523 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 7: hard every every single game. And so I learned. I 524 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 7: learned from that and just took little parts of here, 525 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 7: here and there from their game and try to apply 526 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 7: it to my game. And so yeah, like he said, 527 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 7: and the game started slowing down once we started going 528 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 7: throughout the weeks. And then like my second start I 529 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 7: think was Atlanta, and that's when you know, things started 530 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 7: to slow down because you know, not only was I 531 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 7: on defense, but I was still playing special teams. So sure, 532 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 7: even more so, just that's invaluable, like playing time, Like 533 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 7: you can't give that up, and you can't waste that opportunity. 534 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: Since you played so much and he's so much experience, 535 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's easier for you to set out goals 536 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: for yourself this year in terms of where you want 537 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: to get better and take the next step. What were 538 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: some of those things that you really locked in on 539 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: and tried to focus on during the spring and summer 540 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: months so that you improve the way you wanted the 541 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: way you're going to want to in twenty twenty five. 542 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would just say, hone in on the on 543 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 7: the defensive playbook, this is your two in the system 544 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 7: coach sing coming back again, and you know, I love 545 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 7: his defense and what he has planned for us and 546 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 7: his game plan going into every week. He's very deliberate 547 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 7: with his work and what he does and the work 548 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 7: he sets out for all of us, and we all 549 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 7: respect that as a defense. And so just coming into 550 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 7: this year, just really wanting to just excel in my 551 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 7: knowledge of the game and know the ins and out 552 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 7: not only my position but all the other positions. And 553 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 7: I feel like that's what all the you know, successful 554 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 7: guys in the league's, that's what they do. They don't 555 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 7: just know their defense, especially as linebackers. Like we're in 556 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 7: the middle of the defense everything right, We're not only 557 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 7: in the run fits every down, but we're also dropping 558 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 7: back into past coach and doing all of that as 559 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 7: the dv's do. And so it's being knowledgeable and just 560 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 7: being a sponge and soaking all knowledge is what I'm 561 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 7: really trying to do going into year two. 562 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Final question, you mentioned you love Shane Bowen's defense. What 563 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: is it about his defense? The way he runs this defense. 564 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: That you love. 565 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 7: I think it allows everyone just to go out and 566 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 7: play ball. You know, he puts in a few calls 567 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 7: here and there, but not too much adjustments as far 568 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 7: as you know where the linebackers are always thinking. It 569 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 7: allows everyone just to go out and play ball, play fast. 570 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 7: And I think that's what the best defenses do out 571 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 7: there every year that are able to make turnovers, make 572 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 7: TFLs and things like that is just playing fast. And 573 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 7: that's exactly what coach Shane's Bowen defense allows us to do. 574 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: We have known winning. I'm gonna squeeze in one more 575 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: real quick. Okay, since you just made the transition, and 576 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: I think going from linebacker and college, which the linebacker 577 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: and the pros along with tight end is probably the 578 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: two toughest transitions. Is you have to do you mention 579 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: on OFFENSEI tight end has to do everything right, defensive 580 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: linebacker has to do everything. Yes, what's the biggest difference 581 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: and why is it such a tough transition going from 582 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: college linebacker to NFL linebacker? 583 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 7: And the toughest thing that I learned real quick in 584 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 7: the league is that the on lineman is just as 585 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 7: they're more athletic. I would say, they're big, fast, and 586 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 7: they're so strong. But once they get their their their 587 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 7: paws on you is game over. So just learning how 588 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 7: to utilize my hands, learning how to you know, when 589 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 7: to strike them, when to run away from them, avoid blocking, 590 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 7: you know, at all times we want to try to 591 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 7: avoid blocking as much as we can just to get 592 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 7: to the ball carrier. That's the you know, that's the 593 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 7: whole point of our job is to get the ball carrier. 594 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to stack though, right you have to. 595 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 7: Sometimes there's no way of avoiding them. So that's when 596 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 7: we have to put it. You know, we have to 597 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 7: get dirty, down in dirty, get our hands on, be 598 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 7: able to shed block and so but yeah, that's a 599 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 7: that's another thing that I've been the point of emphasis 600 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 7: going into this offseason is just learning how to utilize 601 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 7: my hands and shed blocking, just like the way Bobby O. 602 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 7: BOBBYO got long arm, so he's able to always just 603 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 7: disengage off blocks very well, and so I'm learning learning 604 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 7: from that. Learning from him is just a great opportunity 605 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 7: for me. 606 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 1: Is there a big difference with the intelligence of the quarterbacks? Too, 607 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: And how are you able to This is gonna sound bad, 608 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: but manipulate guys like you and move you where they 609 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: want and you have to resist that sort of stuff, right. 610 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's just a part of the game, man, Just 611 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 7: just guys like now, we have Russell Wilson in the building, 612 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 7: So going against him every day is crazy because just 613 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 7: seeing him manipulate, like he said, and just audible every 614 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 7: time that he sees a certain pressure coming from this way, 615 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 7: boom he checks another play going the opposite direction, or 616 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 7: screen pass going there, or bomb play going there. If 617 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 7: he sees like we're dropping back into coverage, he checks 618 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 7: it into a run player or something like that. So 619 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 7: and that's not just for a roust, but it's just 620 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 7: for it's everyone in the league that's excelling at a 621 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 7: high level. And so you know, I'm competitive myself, and 622 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 7: so I love taking on that task and being able 623 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 7: to play the game within the game. And so that's 624 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 7: that's one thing that I love about the sport. 625 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: We can't wait to see in you two, Darius, Thank 626 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: you man, appreciate it. And now we're joined by Giants 627 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: linebacker and special team or Demetrius Flanning and fouls Demetrios. 628 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: How are you man doing? 629 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: Great man? How are you so? 630 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: How has the spring been? Kind of getting used to 631 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: giants football, giants culture and all that time. 632 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: It's been great, you know, getting all of the teammates, 633 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: getting all the culture. You know, it's just been it's 634 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 2: just been a blessing. And I'm glad I'm here. 635 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: You're in the beating room with Eggs right on the defense. 636 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: So what has been like working with Eggs? 637 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: It's been great. Man to be able to pick his 638 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 2: brain and kind of learn, you know, learn the system 639 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: and learn how we do things here has been It's 640 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: been nothing but a blessing. 641 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: When you got here. How they kind of explain your 642 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: role to in terms of where you fitting on defense 643 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: and then where you fitting on special teams. 644 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of you know, being able to kind 645 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: of be able to multi facet it and kind of 646 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: knowing both positions and kind of just being able to, 647 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: you know, be ready when my name's called upon, and 648 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: obviously being a dog on special teams. 649 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: All right, talk about your special teams play and being 650 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: a dog on special teams. Let me start to hear 651 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: what's your favorite coveraging? 652 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: You like? 653 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: Kick? 654 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: You like puonns, you like return? 655 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 4: What do you like? 656 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: I like to hit people, so I think so kickoff one, 657 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: kickoff and points. It's kind of the two main ones 658 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: that I like. 659 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what makes a dog on special teams? 660 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: I think it's just a relentless mindset, being able to 661 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: because it's it's not like, you know, offensive defense, where 662 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: you know exactly kind of how things are going to go. 663 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: It's kind of a little like a little bit it's 664 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: control chaos. So just being able to be adaptable and 665 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: just just find the ball, just having a nose for 666 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: the ball and then getting after it. 667 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: He's pretty obvious that the Giants made this part priority 668 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: because they brought you in and then they bring Chris Board. No, 669 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: I think you guys are kind of cut from the 670 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: same cloth. 671 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, definitely, definitely me and Chris, you know, and 672 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Chris is a great dude. And obviously he's been a 673 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: dog on special teams for years, so I'm gonna be 674 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm excited to play with him. 675 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: What has been like learning from Goes in the special teams? 676 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's been It's been great. Man. Goes is amazing. 677 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: He's a great coach, He's a smart guy, you know anything, 678 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: I try to pick his brain as much as I 679 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: can because I know he's been around the league for 680 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: a while. He knows, he knows the system. You know, 681 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: he knows how to make his players make plays. 682 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: All right, let jump to the defense. Now, what do 683 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: you think of now if you've been in it for 684 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: a little bit and you're learning, and what do you 685 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: think of Shane Bowen and kind of what this defense 686 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: is all about. 687 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: I love it. I love the scheme. I love the 688 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: different the different coverages that we have to kind of 689 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: make the offense think a little bit. I think it's all. 690 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: I think it's all great. 691 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: You mentioned coverages that make the offense think. And this 692 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: team last year you weren't here. They had an extremely 693 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: young secondary. You and second year guys rookies this year 694 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: that you bring a pulse to the debo. You're bringing 695 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: Javon holland bringing a guy like yourself, Bobby o character 696 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot of experience. Are we going to see like 697 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: a lot of pre snap postnat movement the Skies. We 698 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: try to make that quarterback wait that extra second or 699 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: two so that pass rush can get home. 700 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think when you have when you 701 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: bring in veteran veteran defensive backs, and you have veterans 702 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: like Bobby I think, and there it's still going to 703 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: be their second year in the system, so I think 704 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: it's going to be It's going to be great just 705 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: for for stuff like that pre snap this guys and 706 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I would expect to see more 707 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know, you know, a guy like myself, 708 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: I'm not ready to do that just yet, but I 709 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: know for sure, you know, guys like Bobby and and 710 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: Deebo and Javon, I think they'll be able to to 711 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: to really you know, flourish under this system now that 712 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: this is going to be their second year. 713 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: What are you in terms of picking everything up? 714 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: And Oh, I'm I'm right where I need to be. 715 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm in it. I'm in a great spot. 716 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, I just want to 717 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: make sure that get the job done more than this guy. 718 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: Now we've been spoken before, but just talking to now, 719 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: I get the sense that spring football is great, but 720 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: it's not really football until the pads go on in camp, right. 721 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: Are you looking forward to to being a little bit 722 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: more physical and. 723 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely Summer I mean, I mean, that's why 724 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: we play. That's why we play, you know what I'm saying. 725 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: So that's why we play. So I can't wait to, uh, 726 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: you know, put the pads on and and and get 727 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: after it and compete. 728 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: Demetrious good stuff. Man, I appreciate dude. Thank you. That's 729 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: your off ball linebacker group. Be thanking for joining us 730 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: on the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, 731 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: the official Bank of the Giants. We'll see you next time.