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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health. All Right,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another week of One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Maddy Glab with you as practice resumes for your Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills pretty much right now out on the grass practice

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Speaker 1: field here at One Bill's Drive for the first time,

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Speaker 1: with training camp at Saint John Fisher all but wrapped

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Speaker 1: up last week, then the preseason game on Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: now back at it today and Maddie and I will

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Speaker 1: can we give you our thoughts on Saturday's game in

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Speaker 1: just a second. Coach McDermott addressed the media a short

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Speaker 1: time ago. We will play his comments for you here

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Speaker 1: in about fifteen minutes time, but we should tell you

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Speaker 1: right up front there was a serious injury that came

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Speaker 1: out of the game and it was the third string quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Shane Bouchell sustained to neck injury in the game. It

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Speaker 1: is considered one that will force him to miss some

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Speaker 1: considerable time, so much so that coach and Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: are discussing other quarterback options to supplement the roster.

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Speaker 2: You have two preseason games left and a joint practice

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Speaker 2: and a joint practice, you don't want to put too

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Speaker 2: much wear and tear on Mitchell Trriusky and Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: especially Josh Allen. We're not sure if Allen is going

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Speaker 2: to play in the second preseason game. After Saturday's preseason game,

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Speaker 2: Alan said, you know, I'm going to prepare as if

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Speaker 2: I'm playing, but I have not been told if I

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Speaker 2: am going to play or if I'm not going to play,

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Speaker 2: So we don't have word on that yet. But with

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Speaker 2: two games remaining, if Allen does not play, you don't

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Speaker 2: want Mitch Trubisky to play for the entirety of the

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Speaker 2: next two games, so you're gonna have to figure out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, naturally, Matt Barkley's name comes to mind because he's

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Speaker 1: done this a couple of times, coming in as a

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Speaker 3: Come on back, Barkley pretty.

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Speaker 1: Much Dayton all the way back to twenty eighteen. He's

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Speaker 1: been doing this. And I remember when they signed him

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Speaker 1: that right, And they brought him in and he had

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Speaker 1: to start against the Jets on the road with six

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Speaker 1: games of prep and the Bills won going away like

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Speaker 1: forty one to sixteen or something, And that started the

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Speaker 1: love affair between Bills Mafi and Matt Barkley, and obviously

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Speaker 1: the iconic video of him swinging around his overcoat to

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Speaker 1: Renegade on the sideline against Pittsburgh in a Sunday night game.

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Speaker 1: And right after the Renegade played, which is a trademark song,

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Speaker 1: going to the fourth quarter for the Steelers, Josh threw

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Speaker 1: a bomb down the field to whom I can't remember,

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Speaker 1: and then they went on to score what proved to

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Speaker 1: be a game winning touchdown late in that game. Would

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Speaker 1: he want to do it? I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Manny and I were just talking about this before we

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Speaker 1: went on the air. He's not around the corner. He

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Speaker 1: lives in California. He's on the other side of the country.

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Speaker 1: He's got two young boys, right, he got two young

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Speaker 3: I think they have three kids now, Okay, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of bounced around a lot the last four years,

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Speaker 1: serving on practice squads, back up, you know, third string

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Speaker 1: that's the difference here. But here's the other thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: the verbiage of the system. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: parts of the offensive system that are the same as

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Speaker 1: what Brian Dable implemented here six years ago, but Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady has titled a lot of things concepts plays differently

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Speaker 1: to make learning the system an accelerated process for players. So, look,

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Speaker 1: Barkley's learned new systems before. If he's the guy that

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Speaker 1: But it's just something I thought worth mentioning here. It's

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Speaker 1: not like it's he's walking into the same system he

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Speaker 2: So then you ask yourself the question, are there any

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Speaker 2: know it's not completely similar to Buffalo's offense, but you

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Speaker 2: Or are there connections or ties to quarterbacks? Coach Ronald

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Speaker 2: Curry also, I'm on Twitter, and I'm just now seeing

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Speaker 3: Out at practice.

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Speaker 2: Backup quarterback Mitch Trubisky has been excused from today's practice

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Speaker 2: for a personal matter. So guess what, Josh Allen is

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Speaker 1: What I think we'll have a lot of run game

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Speaker 2: Not gonna put too much on a QB one out

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Speaker 1: Good grief. Yeah, that's uh man went from three to

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Speaker 2: Everything is okay with Mitch Trubisky and his family. Yes,

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Speaker 2: hopefully he'll be back at practice soon enough. But when

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Speaker 2: like this. And that's why it's important to have a

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Speaker 1: A lot of pro personnel departments, and I know the

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Speaker 1: at every position of available players you know, out on

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Speaker 1: the street in the market who are free agents, so

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Speaker 1: in the event something like this crops up, they can

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Speaker 1: get on the phone in short order and assess, hey,

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Speaker 1: blah blah. So you know that began in earnest as

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Speaker 1: the other thing. They have the joint practice with the

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Speaker 1: there's a controlled environment. The quarterbacks are not touched, they

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Speaker 1: to obviously protect each team's most important player for their offense.

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Speaker 1: So that's a plus. So let's just say, hypothetically, we

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's very true.

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Speaker 2: And thinking about the schedule that this team has this week.

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Speaker 3: Be on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: You got the joint practice on Thursday, so things are

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Speaker 1: I would imagine he's with whoever the third guy is.

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Speaker 1: He'll be living with Ronald Curry for the better part

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Speaker 1: and cramming. And that's the tough time of the year

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Speaker 1: for coaches because you're trying to coach your position group.

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Speaker 1: But then you have a five alarm fire and now

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Speaker 1: all of your tension has to go to the guy

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Speaker 1: the league will tell you they don't have enough time.

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Speaker 1: and see who the Bills are able to sign at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position going forward. Speaking of potential new players,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson, Houston based reporter, is reporting that the Bills

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Speaker 1: are working out wide receiver Demir Bird. Bird is. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's played in seventy six games in his seventy six

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Speaker 1: So you try to mitigate that by resupplementing your position

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Speaker 2: You're also trying to manage some of your first string

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Speaker 2: their legs stay fresh based on hey, they're we want

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Speaker 2: their new players were trying to hold them back a

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Speaker 1: Burr's most successful season was the only year in his

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty with the New England Patriots. Started fourteen games,

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. So we'll see if the workout leads to

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Speaker 1: You know, it can be a little patchwork this time

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Speaker 1: of year. Injuries start cropping up once the preseason games

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Speaker 1: game here, Maddie. Okay, So obviously coach McDermott not happy

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Speaker 4: Stars, nothing yet, So it'll get finalized as we move

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Speaker 4: forward here.

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Speaker 7: In practice and having those control preps it might contribute

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Speaker 7: to that decision.

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Speaker 4: Uh, listen, it's Monday, right. We just finished up watching

443
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Speaker 4: the film from the game, So that's really my where

444
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Speaker 4: my focus is. Do I have a thought in my

445
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Speaker 4: mind to both of you guys, Yes, but I'm not

446
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Speaker 4: really ready and willing to go there because it's not

447
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Speaker 4: finalized yet.

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Speaker 6: So there's a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Things, Joe that are going to plan into it. And

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Speaker 4: really my focus is on is on the practice here.

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Speaker 12: So the focus that you put on the team not

452
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Speaker 12: playing the Bill standard on Saturday, what how do you

453
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Speaker 12: address that, how much to expect that to be corrected

454
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Speaker 12: going into the two of the preseason, and what did

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Speaker 12: you see on films specifically that may or may not

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Speaker 12: change your mind.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot in that game.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think the biggest thing is really

459
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Speaker 4: continuing to try and make sure that the that the

460
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Speaker 4: people who haven't been here, whether it's rookies or new

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Speaker 4: faces that are veterans, understand how we do things and

462
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Speaker 4: what the expectation level is and what the standard is.

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Speaker 4: And so so it's not as much the result as

464
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Speaker 4: it is what leads to the result. That is, we're

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Speaker 4: continuing to double down on that and make sure that

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Speaker 4: they understand and the whole team for that matter, understands,

467
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Speaker 4: you know, the energy that you have to come in with,

468
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Speaker 4: the mindset you have to come in with, the urgency

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Speaker 4: that you have to approach every game with the standard,

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Speaker 4: the fundamentals, and so it's just you could just keep

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Speaker 4: going from there. So listen, I thought that there were

472
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Speaker 4: some positives in there in that game, but overall, you know,

473
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Speaker 4: we go back to the drawing board, and this is

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Speaker 4: what I said about, you know, onboarding these players.

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Speaker 6: And making it's gonna it's gonna take some time to.

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Speaker 4: Get them to continue to develop to where they can

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Speaker 4: help us. Then we've got a couple more than a

478
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Speaker 4: couple guys that are we're counting on that are missing

479
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Speaker 4: the valuable time because they're out missing practice and so

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Speaker 4: some of.

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Speaker 6: Those guys are new guys as well.

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Speaker 4: So you know, it's just taking it one day at

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Speaker 4: a time, one rep at a time, and continuing to teach,

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Speaker 4: continue continuing to to make sure that there's understanding on

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Speaker 4: what's expected.

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Speaker 10: Just as a follow up, I don't want to say,

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Speaker 10: I don't want to excuse this as a lack of leadership,

488
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Speaker 10: but this is a byproduct of the leadership core that

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Speaker 10: you lost over the offseason and how much they played

490
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Speaker 10: a role in enforcing that standard to a degree, and

491
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Speaker 10: you need to buy and other guys step into that

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Speaker 10: role to be more vocal.

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Speaker 4: I guess yeah, I would say it's you know, that's

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Speaker 4: that's a that's a piece of it.

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Speaker 6: I would say it's more.

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Speaker 4: Of the the the continuity that you lose and the

497
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Speaker 4: experience that you lose and being around the culture and

498
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Speaker 4: and so on and so forth, and how it needs

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Speaker 4: to look. I mean, there's a lot of young guys

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Speaker 4: playing that game the other day that that was their

501
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Speaker 4: first NFL action, So that's to be expected a little bit,

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Speaker 4: and so you have to balance a little bit of

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Speaker 4: perspective and yet make sure that there is again understanding,

504
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Speaker 4: clear understanding of what's expected in every part of what

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Speaker 4: we do.

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Speaker 11: For instance, some of the things that you liked after

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Speaker 11: going back and watching it again, was there anything in

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Speaker 11: particular that maybe it was a pleasant surprise or that

509
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Speaker 11: you didn't take away from the first you know, living

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Speaker 11: through the actual game itself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that there were moments of the

512
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Speaker 4: physicality that needs to be there. There were moments of

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Speaker 4: the energy that needs to be there. Again, I thought

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Speaker 4: t bass Field goal wise had a good day. Sam

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Speaker 4: had a couple good kicks in there, punts in there

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Speaker 4: as well, And so there's moments and I do believe

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Speaker 4: that you have to You've got to celebrate those so

518
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Speaker 4: that these so the players understand that, hey, this is

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Speaker 4: what we want and they build on those areas. But

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Speaker 4: then also make sure we correct the things that weren't

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Speaker 4: so that they understand moving forward what the expectation it

522
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Speaker 4: is and we don't beat around the bush with what

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Speaker 4: it needs to look like.

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Speaker 7: Sean seeing Dwayne Carter and pass now for a week

525
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Speaker 7: or so, how well is he grasped what you want

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Speaker 7: him to do on that defensive line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a rookie. I mean he's I thought he

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Speaker 4: did some good things. He's playing lower and he's learning

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Speaker 4: how to strain and and that doesn't mean every down

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Speaker 4: yet and and from snap to the end of the whistle,

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Speaker 4: and that's part of what we're working on. But I was,

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Speaker 4: I was, I thought there was some good some good

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Speaker 4: moments from him in the game in his first game

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Speaker 4: albeit and and now it's how how he builds on that.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's head coach Sean McDermott addressing the media

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Speaker 1: earlier today. He's talking about Dwayne Carter there and he

537
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Speaker 1: got some some nice reps with the first unit after

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Speaker 1: it Oliver went out, and then with the second unit

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Speaker 1: as well, So he's getting some prime time to shine.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see if that continues through the course of

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Speaker 1: the preseason. Got to take a break here, but we

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Speaker 1: are taking your phone calls when we return. What were

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Speaker 1: your biggest takeaways from Saturday's preseason game against the Bears.

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Speaker 1: You let us know at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty your phone calls. Next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Collat of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live on a Monday. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Maddy clave with you and just asking you for your

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Speaker 1: takeaways from Saturday's pre season opener. You know coach mcdermot's

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Speaker 1: feelings on it. We want yours eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five point fifty.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones, and leading us off is

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Speaker 1: Mike in Alden. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 13: Mike, Hey, guys, what's going on? Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

555
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Speaker 13: So I would say my takeaways are I'm not gonna

556
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Speaker 13: hit the panic button, you know with the starters out there,

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Speaker 13: That's really all I really was was focused on. I know,

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Speaker 13: you got to have depth, but at that time, it

559
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 13: was what three nothing, three three? They took the Josh

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Speaker 13: the ball from Josh, So you know, I'm not too

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Speaker 13: concerned there that depth. Yeah, that's an issue. But the

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Speaker 13: one thing I didn't hear you guys bring up from

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Speaker 13: the takeaways that I wanted to chime in on, well

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Speaker 13: have you time in on is the John Perry like

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Speaker 13: a fact because the two plays there that that they

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Speaker 13: that they figured out you couldn't even really see. I

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Speaker 13: didn't think with the naked eye, so like that was

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Speaker 13: just that was huge and it's you know That's that's

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Speaker 13: two too too good calls there for for Sean in

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Speaker 13: one game. I don't think he had to last year,

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Speaker 13: the whole season. So if you could just chime in

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Speaker 13: on that and I'll hang up and listen, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Mike is referring to John Perry, the retired NFL

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Speaker 1: official who is now on Buffalo's game day staff, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to help with challenging plays if it's deemed

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Speaker 1: worthy of challenging, and that came up in Saturday's game.

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Speaker 1: There was a catch made by Dante Pettis across the middle,

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Speaker 1: along with another sideline play that was challenged as well.

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Speaker 1: They argued that Stephen Carlson, the tight end, did not

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Speaker 1: complete the catch along the sideline, which was a herculean

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Speaker 1: effort to even make the catch, and they ruled that

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Speaker 1: the ball moved and he didn't complete the action of

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Speaker 1: the catch. And then Dante Pettis caught a pass across

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Speaker 1: the middle, which from my vantage point, there was no

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Speaker 1: way to see whether he had secured the ball or

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Speaker 1: whether it hit the turf his body blocked. Well, we

588
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Speaker 1: were able to see, but some of the camera views

589
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Speaker 1: showed that the ball hit the ground. Made contact with

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Speaker 1: the ground and so they challenged that and that got

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Speaker 1: overturned as well. So they were two for two yesterday,

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Speaker 1: which is better than you even have to do in

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Speaker 1: a game this year, Maddie, Because if a coach used

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Speaker 1: to be if the coach had to get both challenges

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Speaker 1: both of his two challenges correct to be awarded a

596
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Speaker 1: third in a game, that rule got changed this year.

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Speaker 1: You only need to know you only need to get

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Speaker 1: one out of two correct to get a third, so

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Speaker 1: you only have to bat five hundred now as a

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Speaker 1: new rule this year. But yeah, you have to believe

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Speaker 1: Perry was a part of those decisions to challenge those plays.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a smart idea. Who better to

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Speaker 1: have than a former referee knows what to look for exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's smart as a head coach as a team to

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Speaker 2: be looking outside of the box in ways that can

606
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Speaker 2: help you get better in games. And that's what coach

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Speaker 2: McDermott has done by hiring Perry as their officials specialist.

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Speaker 2: I think is the title that he has a rule

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Speaker 2: specialist something like that. But mcderritt was asked about John

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Speaker 2: Perry after the game and he said, it's good to

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Speaker 2: have him. He also said that Mark Lubick, who is

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Speaker 2: the assistant wide receivers coach, is up in the box

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Speaker 2: with him, as well as Dennis Locke, who is one

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Speaker 2: of the guys who helps.

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Speaker 3: With analytics and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he said, hey, I got a lot of

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Speaker 2: help up there, and it's nice to have John Perry

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Speaker 2: alongside of all those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so certainly a plus at least from first blush

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Speaker 1: here on Saturday. And I think a guy that knows

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Speaker 1: all the ins and outs of what the officials are

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Speaker 1: looking for and then knowing whether there's enough evidence to

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Speaker 1: overturn a play at first look. I mean he knows

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Speaker 1: it backwards and forwards. He's an NFL official for more

625
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Speaker 1: than two decades, so why not. And let's not forget that.

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Speaker 1: You know, if there's one area where coach McDermott has

627
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Speaker 1: not been stellar, it's in coaches challenges. So you got

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Speaker 1: to give credit to coach McDermott for recognizing perhaps one

629
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Speaker 1: thing that he's not particularly strong at and trying to

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Speaker 1: make it better by getting some help. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a smart move. Let's go back to the phones and

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Speaker 1: to Butcher on the east side.

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Speaker 8: What do you got butch my people, I love you

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Speaker 8: so much. Thanks for taking my call. Sure the Queen

635
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Speaker 8: of WGR Maddy's good to hear your voice. I love

636
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Speaker 8: you so much. But let me get right to it.

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Speaker 8: I got a couple of things to say. One, I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna piggyback off which I just said y'all was speaking about.

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Speaker 8: Number one is I'm gonna give Brandon being credit for

640
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Speaker 8: bringing the attention to Shamman. Dermott even hire a former

641
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Speaker 8: referee to make a team with analytics, so we will

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Speaker 8: do that for the organization. So I'm gonna get Brandon

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Speaker 8: a little credit as well. And thank you so much,

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Speaker 8: mister bean, Thank you so much, Miss mc dermott. I

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Speaker 8: appreciate that because that was like the A plus to

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Speaker 8: get the score of the game. That was the A plus,

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Speaker 8: a star of the whole game by that that department. Anyway,

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Speaker 8: let me go to this Ray, Chris, Chris, I got

649
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Speaker 8: something to tell you later on after I finished this

650
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 8: is very important to you personally. Let me give it

651
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Speaker 8: to my topic. My topic is this I got I

652
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 8: got a little problem. I gotta tell mister Brady something real,

653
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 8: real cute. You started off with a double tight end.

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Speaker 8: You started Dawson Knox, you benched the rookie Coleman, and

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Speaker 8: you then start him. He came in all high, phaped

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Speaker 8: up prior to the game, answering questions, the whole national,

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Speaker 8: whole United States looking at this kid. And we always

658
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Speaker 8: talk about Stefan Diggs leaving, which I believe he's still

659
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Speaker 8: good in the receivers that we have. But it comes

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Speaker 8: to uh a chef, and I know Brad's a great chef.

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Speaker 13: I'm not knocking him down. This is no knock gonna break.

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Speaker 8: It's just that his my guy's first pass in his career.

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Speaker 8: Regardless of this preseason, regular season, he's gonna say that

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Speaker 8: I caught it from a second Street tibiscus, that it

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Speaker 8: catch it bum Josh Allen, that's just petty. It might

666
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Speaker 8: sound petty, but it's real. But at the same time,

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Speaker 8: my first ball I caught first down, you called it Brownie,

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Speaker 8: first down. Great catch, he caught it. But at the

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Speaker 8: same time, we going back down this thing we talked

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Speaker 8: about last year of making a decision of who are

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Speaker 8: tightening is gonna be Dalton k Kte is our tight end.

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Speaker 8: Let's make that totally official. Let Dawson knocks. Back up

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Speaker 8: Dalton with your three wives, let's play. We didn't have

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Speaker 8: no continuity in the first series because we would went

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Speaker 8: twelve package, thirteen package and we're trying to run the

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Speaker 8: ball was no holes there. I want Brady to understand something.

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Speaker 8: I understand this. It's preseason. He's showing Vanilla and son

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Speaker 8: of Chocolate and Strawberry. I respect that, but don't lose

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Speaker 8: this kid's courage by not playing, not letting them start

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Speaker 8: when he supposed to be the future and the replacement

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Speaker 8: for Gigs and Davis. Don't do that to him. Brady,

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Speaker 8: beave Dawson. Kno, let Dawson knock his roll and you're

683
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Speaker 8: right now is gonna be behind kick but now real quick,

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Speaker 8: and I'm gonna hang up. This is for you, Chris.

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Speaker 8: This is your seat. Now, that's your house. Now he did,

686
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Speaker 8: I'll steel the job. I listened. I didn't go to theether.

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Speaker 8: I listen to you on the radio. I want you sometime,

688
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Speaker 8: you know, later on after you get off the radio.

689
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Speaker 8: Always remember Howard Cosell, John Madden. They always had a logo.

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Speaker 8: Even Marge Jackson said, Mama, there goes that man. I

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Speaker 8: want you to get you a of a logo. Oh

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Speaker 8: it's some kind of special word that you can carry

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Speaker 8: you over for your career. You can laugh, hopeing my brother.

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Speaker 8: But you know I love you, but I want you

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Speaker 8: to practice it. I want you to figure it out

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Speaker 8: with your wife and the kids. Find out something you

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Speaker 8: can say that's only yours. I love you, man than

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Speaker 8: taking my call Nady, but we gotta laugh.

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Speaker 14: But I love both of y'all.

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Speaker 8: I love WJ. I I know I love y'all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean I think I think you're getting

702
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Speaker 1: a little too wrapped up. I mean, you said it yourself,

703
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Speaker 1: it's only preseason. I think you're getting a little too

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Speaker 1: wrapped up in the personnel groupings that Brady was trying

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Speaker 1: to utilize there at the outset of the game. And look,

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Speaker 1: just because you saw a twelve personnel at the beginning,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't get your underwearon or not here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're just trying things. They want to see how certain

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Speaker 1: looks appear. I wouldn't read too much into it, but

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Speaker 1: I think you also have to remember this. Butch Dawson

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Speaker 1: Knox and Dalton kin K to me, are two different

712
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Speaker 1: kinds of tight ends. Knox more of the inline type.

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Speaker 1: Kincaid is detached. I would almost call Dalton kin Kate

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Speaker 1: a tight receiver, not a tight end, because that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what his calling card is. And because of that,

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Speaker 1: I think Knox does have a role because he's going

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Speaker 1: to handle more of the dirt down and dirty blocking

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Speaker 1: assignments at the tight end position, and understandably so, he's

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Speaker 1: bigger and stronger than Dalton, and Dalton's strengths are he's

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Speaker 1: a better route runner and a better pass catcher. So

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Speaker 1: they're in the right roles. And if they feel twelve

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Speaker 1: personnel is necessary, Knox is going to be on the

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Speaker 1: field and somebody else is not. And in some cases

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Speaker 1: that's probably gonna be Coleman, whether you like it or not.

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Speaker 1: And game plans are going to dictate how much those

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Speaker 1: two see the field in a given week, and you

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Speaker 1: just got to come to accept that. And look, if

728
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Speaker 1: Coleman matriculates and benefit and gets better and better and

729
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Speaker 1: better and better, well maybe he's not the odd man

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Speaker 1: out when they go twelve personnel. Maybe he is one

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Speaker 1: of those two receivers. Maybe it's Shaqui and Coleman. Maybe

732
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Speaker 1: it's your CA and Samuel. But if Coleman keeps progressing

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Speaker 1: like I think he's going to, he might be on

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Speaker 1: the field anyway in twelve. Personnel certainly big enough to

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Speaker 1: block in the run game if that's what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do in twelve, So not a concern, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's preseason. You're trying to roll some

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Speaker 2: things out to see what it looks like, to see

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Speaker 2: how it feels with these guys repping these things in

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Speaker 2: live games where you're actually tackling, And we'll see what

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Speaker 2: happens on Saturday against the Steelers. But I wouldn't read

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Speaker 2: two into even when it's the first team offense out there,

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Speaker 2: what's going on, what packages they're in. They're not trying

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Speaker 2: to show too much. It's the vanilla preseason for everyone.

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Speaker 2: I think we can start to have those opinions when

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Speaker 2: games begin to count.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to take a break here, but more

748
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Speaker 1: of your phone calls whill we come back. We'll lead

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Speaker 1: off with Mark and Akron. We'll get to Joe and

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Speaker 1: Kevin as well when we return. Asking for your takeaways

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Speaker 1: from Saturday's preseason opener. Here All one Bill's Lives ended

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Speaker 1: by Kalida health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Three receivers to

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Speaker 1: the right, one to the left, Trubisky back to pass,

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Speaker 1: pressure coming fires underneath, and it's complete to Shakir for

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Speaker 1: a first down. Gets away from blackwelling up the sideline,

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Speaker 1: finally force that of bounds at the thirty yard line.

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Speaker 1: It's a first down and more per Khalil Shakir. This

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Speaker 1: week's player of the game wide receiver Khalil Shakir three targets,

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Speaker 1: three receptions, twenty eight yards, which was a team high.

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Speaker 1: The Player of the Game presented by Wegmans, the official

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Speaker 1: tailgate headquarters of the Buffalo Bills. And yeah, we mentioned

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Speaker 1: him as well as a player that we noticed put

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Speaker 1: in a good performance. But we want to get back

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Speaker 1: to the phones at eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight five fifty two five fifty to get your

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Speaker 1: takeaways from Saturday's preseason opener. As promised to Mark and Ackron,

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Speaker 1: we go, what do you got for a book? Let

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Speaker 1: me get you punched up here? What do you got

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Speaker 1: for us? Mark?

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Speaker 9: Here?

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Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 14: Hi, Chris or Maddie. I think you guys are great.

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Speaker 14: I love watching the show. I take some Saturday I

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Speaker 14: think our offensive line picked up from last year, no

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Speaker 14: penalties or any injuries. And also I wanted to ask

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Speaker 14: you what you thought of the Bills looking at Ryan

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Speaker 14: Tannehill as a butcher backup quarterback In case Josh isn't

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Speaker 14: in the game gets hurt, we wouldn't have to worry.

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Speaker 14: And I also want to give a shout out to

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Speaker 14: you and your members at DC four. Oh hang up

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Speaker 14: and let you guys respond.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Mark, Ryan Tannehill. I think from an

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Speaker 1: athletic skills set perspective, I could see why you would

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Speaker 1: gravitate to him, and he is out there and available.

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Speaker 1: And the reason this is brought up if you're just

786
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Speaker 1: joining us, is Shane Bouchell suffered a neck injury in

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Speaker 1: Saturday's game and he's gonna miss significant time. So the

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Speaker 1: Bills may be in the market for a third quarterback here.

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Speaker 1: And as Maddy mentioned earlier, Mitch Trubisky is missing practice

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Speaker 1: today due to a personal matter, so Josh is literally

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Speaker 1: the only quarterback out there taking snaps today. Yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: Tannehill I think comes with a certain cachet. Yes, he

793
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Speaker 1: was relegated to back up duty for the first time

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Speaker 1: in his career last year. I think the reason he's

795
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Speaker 1: still out there is he's waiting for a more significant opportunity,

796
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Speaker 1: like somebody goes down with the season ending injury and

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Speaker 1: hopes he gets called in for something like that. I

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Speaker 1: can't see him accepting a third quarterback opportunity. I just

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Speaker 1: I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: I'm somebody who's been like a starter for ten seasons

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Speaker 2: in his career. While that's are nice, and he's had

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Speaker 2: a lot of time on the.

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Speaker 3: Field and in games and.

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Speaker 2: Would add probably a lot to that quarterback room, I

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Speaker 2: don't think he would be interested in a QB three.

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Speaker 1: I see him waiting on an opportunity, on an opportunity

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Speaker 1: like the one we saw Joe Flacco walk into last year. Total,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what he's looking for, not something like this.

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Speaker 1: As for the offensive line, they did have their trouble

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Speaker 1: opening up some holes in the run game, and as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, they were playing a formidable run defense.

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Speaker 1: You know that Bears run is pretty much unchanged from

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Speaker 1: last year when they led the league in run defense,

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Speaker 1: so that should be noted. But this was a Bill's

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Speaker 1: offense that was seventh in the league in rushing last year.

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Speaker 1: And they were great at opening up holes. It was

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Speaker 1: a little tougher to come by. I think we should

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Speaker 1: also mention too, Maddy that it was the Bears second

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Speaker 1: preseason game the Bills first game. Yeah, because the Bears

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Speaker 1: played in the first preseason game at the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: so it matters. I think we would expect Buffalo's offensive

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Speaker 1: line to look more productive in the run front this

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Speaker 1: week against Pittsburgh. But we shall see to Joe in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo next. What do you got first? Joe, You're on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 15: Hey, how you doing, guys?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 15: Yeah? My question is kind of a segue question two

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Speaker 15: or three parter is obviously being that we have only

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Speaker 15: three preseason gamestead of four, which is a good thing

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Speaker 15: on most aspects. But to think that what would you do?

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Speaker 15: My opinion on it is possibly say yes, but would

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Speaker 15: you roll the dice and let Allen have the same

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Speaker 15: amount if not more playtime and try to see what

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Speaker 15: the ones and the twos could possibly maybe even the

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Speaker 15: thirties the third springers could possibly do and find a

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Speaker 15: diamond in the rough And also would definitely love either

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Speaker 15: run game get activated and or do you go back

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Speaker 15: to the Kelly days? Where they barely wanted preases in

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Speaker 15: games but didn't show everything they had until the regular

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Speaker 15: season went counted.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's a lot in there, Joe, So we'll

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Speaker 1: try to tick them off one at a time. We're

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be very interesting to see how much the

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Speaker 1: starters play on Saturday, because you're expecting Thursday's practice to

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Speaker 1: be pretty intense.

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Speaker 3: And you would expect that.

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Speaker 2: They would want the starters to be out there for

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Speaker 2: a good amount of that practice.

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Speaker 1: Right, Because again the situation is relatively controlled, you have

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Speaker 1: to believe tomlin A McDermott, who are former college teammates

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Speaker 1: and longtime friends, that they'll lay out the ground rules

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Speaker 1: and almost any joint practice, you do not touch the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Even if a pass rusher is in for an obvious act,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback does not get touched. It's just a rule.

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Speaker 1: And so knowing that, you feel comfortable giving Josh his

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Speaker 1: reps against real competition in that setting, even more more

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Speaker 1: than the preseason game. But there is the fact that

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Speaker 1: the offense wasn't great in the preseason opener. So does

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Speaker 1: that prompt coach McDermott to play Josh Moore in the

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Speaker 1: second game or does he get what he needs to

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Speaker 1: get out of him in the Thursday practice and then

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Speaker 1: maybe he waits until the third preseason game last year

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Speaker 1: because last year what they did was they played about

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Speaker 1: a quarter once in one preseason game and then played

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Speaker 1: a half in the next preseason game. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we're going to see that on Saturday, So it

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Speaker 1: makes me wonder do we see that the following week

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Speaker 1: against Carolina. I think I almost think that's more likely.

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Speaker 2: I would say that it's more likely that we see

871
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: if we're gonna see Josh again, I would say it's

872
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: more likely that we see him in the final preseason game,

873
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: knowing that maybe you don't want to give the first

874
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: team offense a whole week off before that first game.

875
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: You want him in there for a series or.

876
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: Two to run through things to feel good before you

877
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: head into Week one. And Sean McDermott after the game said,

878
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: I like what I saw out of Josh. I like

879
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: the way he went through his warm up. I liked

880
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: what I saw in his eyes. So it seemed like

881
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: McDermott was saying, I got what I needed to see

882
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: out of my quarterback.

883
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, does that just make the first game or for preseason.

884
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: We're not sure.

885
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: And again, there could be things he wants the first

886
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: team offense to work on coming out of that first

887
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: preseason game. They could work on it in the joint

888
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: practice they can, and as long as he likes what

889
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: he sees, there wouldn't stun me if the starters are

890
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: played sparingly, with perhaps a few exceptions like a Keon

891
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: Coleman or somebody that needs the reps. Let's squeeze Kevin

892
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: from Hamburg in here before the break? What do you

893
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: got first? Kevin?

894
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 16: Hey, guys, how you doing? Mak my call?

895
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Speaker 1: Sure?

896
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 16: The truth thing that I want to say is first

897
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Speaker 16: about if they did ever bring tannehillan, which I don't

898
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 16: think they will, There's no way to say that Tannehill

899
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Speaker 16: is not better than Mitch Terrubisky. And you gotta remember

900
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 16: this is the guy that almost in twenty nineteen got

901
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 16: to the Super Bowl if he would have held off

902
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 16: the Chiefs. I mean, he is way better than Trubisky

903
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 16: by far. But the second thing I want to say

904
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Speaker 16: that bothered me about the game was the terrible penalties

905
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 16: that were like nineteen or twenty penalties. That is way

906
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 16: too much. I know, it's free season. But that is

907
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 16: way too much for a team who's been in the

908
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 16: Super Bowl hunt the last three or four years. It

909
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 16: may be second and third stringers, but those dumb little penalties,

910
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 16: new draw zone infractions and all that, those fundamental things

911
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 16: that would drive me more crazy than maybe such a

912
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 16: holding or a pass interference once in a while, Those

913
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 16: little dumb, little undisciplined line up in the neutral zone

914
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 16: when you know the neutral zone is being on your

915
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 16: side of the football. Those little things that would drive like,

916
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 16: you know, the thing that drove John Men crazy when

917
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 16: he's announced, He's always said those things will drive a

918
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 16: code crazy.

919
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Kevin. Sorry, we got to jump here

920
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: because we're up against the break, but we get what

921
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: you're saying. It was only eleven penalties for the Bills.

922
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: It was nineteen total penalties in the game that were assessed,

923
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: eight for Chicago, eleven for Buffalo. I'm just gonna say

924
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: the pre snaft penalties were an issue. Let's see if

925
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: they get ironed out in the next preseason game. I

926
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: think there was also a couple of tiki tac ones,

927
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: like the pass interference on too Corey Couch that was

928
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: a fan in penalty. Where the hell did that happen?

929
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything, so they weren't all great calls

930
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: either by Craig Rollstands staff. Let's just say that, but yes,

931
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: there is some cleaning up to do, and maybe you

932
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: see a little bit more of that in the first

933
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 1: preseason game and then see if it gets better.

934
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, usually when this team has a

935
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: lot of penalties in a game, the next game they

936
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: do not have nearly as much because Sean McDermott drills

937
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: it into them that, hey, we gotta be careful on

938
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: our penalties. They had thirteen penalties in the second preseason

939
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: game against the Steelers last year. I'm looking what they

940
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: had in the final preseason game against the Bears. They

941
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: went from thirteen to two, So there you go. I

942
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: would expect that number to go down this week.

943
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: Precipitously got to take a break here. When we come back,

944
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Speaker 1: we're going to be joined by our good friend Greg Cosell,

945
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: senior producer from NFL Films, also co host of ESPN's

946
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: NFL Matchup Show. We'll get his thoughts on the Bill's

947
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: preseason opener and their performance offense, defense, special teams. When

948
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: we return here on One Bill's Live presented by Colide Health.

949
00:51:33,920 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. This this one Bill's Live presented

950
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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health. All right, our number two here on

951
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Speaker 1: a Monday on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Matty Glad

952
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: with you. Please be joined now by our good friend

953
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: Great co Sale, senior producer from NFL Films who's probably

954
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: already diving into film study with great Vim and Vigor.

955
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Speaker 5: I am sure, well, yes, I've had a productive summer, Brownie.

956
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 5: I've probably watched in detail about one hundred and thirty

957
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 5: five guys will be in next year's draft, and I've

958
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 5: also watched a lot of NFL various things. So yeah,

959
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 5: by uh, you are as for the weird.

960
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: You know you are a godder are so around the bend?

961
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't imagine. I would love to

962
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: know what your eyeglass prescription is because the fact that

963
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: you don't have coke bottles for glasses is amazing to me.

964
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: With all the films much I.

965
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 5: Only need my glasses to work, I don't need them

966
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 5: to drive, So you know, I'm okay, Yeah.

967
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: You're you are a lucky fellow because mine would have

968
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: glazed over a long time ago if I watch that much.

969
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 15: Fair. Yeah.

970
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 5: But you know, the great thing about the off season

971
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 5: and then we'll get to the Bills is is I

972
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 5: don't have a deadline every day, so it's fun. You know,

973
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 5: during the season, every day is a deadline. Probably like

974
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 5: a coach, you know, every day is a deadline. The

975
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 5: off season is a little more relaxing, So if I

976
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 5: feel like watching something a little more, I can.

977
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Speaker 1: I can do that, all right, So let's uh, let's

978
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: get to this preseason opener for for Buffalo. And you know,

979
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: the roster is far from being in its final form

980
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: as we know, but I guess the first question would be,

981
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: has anybody flashed to you that you know you made

982
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: a no?

983
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 5: No, you know, I gotta tell you the first preseason game,

984
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 5: I really have a hard time with Brownie, and I'm

985
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 5: just being honest with you. I never know what to

986
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 5: make of that. I mean, you know, obviously they're looking

987
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 5: for specific things. I don't know what they are. So

988
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 5: I just I don't know what to do with these games.

989
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 5: I really don't. I mean, if they play more guys

990
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 5: in the second game, which they probably will, because the

991
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 5: third game kind of becomes irrelevant. Now then we get

992
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 5: a sense of how they see players. I you know,

993
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 5: I don't know, and I'm just being honest. That first

994
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: preseason game, to me is the biggest struggle I have

995
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 5: every year, and people ask me about it, and I'm

996
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 5: just being honest. I never know what to say.

997
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of the times, at least for

998
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: our staff and everybody here in Buffalo who is getting

999
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 2: ready for preseason games, it's we don't want.

1000
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: To put a lot on the players.

1001
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 2: We want to let them go out there and do

1002
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: their things, so then we can evaluate how they go

1003
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: out there and show their athleticism, play to their strengths,

1004
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: and play fast. And then you're going up against Chicago Bears,

1005
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: who Brownie and I talked about it earlier in the

1006
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: show probably had some things installed for Caleb Williams so

1007
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: they could run through what they.

1008
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 3: Needed to run through. So I totally understand.

1009
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: How it's it's hard to compare the two and then

1010
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: a value either.

1011
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I guess one guy I'm interested to see

1012
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 5: and I know he played a bit is Dwayne Carter

1013
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 5: because you know, look, I think if you look at

1014
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 5: their defensive front, and let's start there since I mentioned Carter.

1015
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 5: You know, at this point, we don't know what von

1016
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 5: Miller is, okay, so let's put him aside for the moment.

1017
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 5: He's obviously an older player, came off a major injury,

1018
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 5: only played about two hundred and fifty snaps a year ago.

1019
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 5: This certainly did not look like the von Miller who's

1020
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer, So we don't know where he

1021
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 5: is at this stage. So if you look at their

1022
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 5: defensive front, and I think it's probably fair to say that,

1023
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 5: you don't look at that front and say, man, they

1024
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 5: got a big time pass pressure in that group, So

1025
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 5: you know, I think that's something you're trying to get

1026
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 5: a feel for. That's why Carter is interesting to me.

1027
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 5: I think Smoot's an interesting guy because he's been in

1028
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 5: the league and he's shown at times that he can

1029
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 5: rush the quarterback. So you know, I that to me

1030
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 5: is something that you'd want to look at throughout the preseason. Again,

1031
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 5: I'm not there every day in camp, so I don't

1032
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 5: know what they're doing as far as rotations, but you know,

1033
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 5: I think in a Sean McDermott defense, and I know

1034
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 5: he's not the coordinator, I don't know is he gonna

1035
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 5: call it or is Babbage gonna call it? I don't

1036
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 5: know that either. Maybe you guys do. Maybe it's been

1037
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 5: talked about, but I don't think they want to be

1038
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 5: heavy blitz.

1039
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that has not been determined yet. I think

1040
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: Babbage is going to get like a trial run through

1041
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: the course of the preseason and then a decision will

1042
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: be made after. Yeah. And look, I think we're all

1043
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: expecting big things for Dalton kin Ka this year after

1044
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: a very productive rookie season. And you know, I think

1045
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: people it's funny we're taking calls and people are bothered

1046
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: that Dawson Knox is on the field and Keon Coleman's

1047
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: the receiver that comes off when they jump into twelve.

1048
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: At least that's what happened in the preseason opener, And

1049
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like, look, everybody's just got to calm down here. Yeah,

1050
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: and not to mention the fact that Dawson Knox and

1051
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: Dalton Kinkaid are are pretty different tight ends. You know,

1052
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: Knox is more of the inline guy and Kinkade's outside.

1053
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1054
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 5: I think that's one interesting I actually went through every

1055
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 5: Joe Brady game this summer from from last year because

1056
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 5: I was curious. You know what, again, when I watched

1057
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 5: watch during the season, I can't watch you know, six seven,

1058
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 5: eight games in a row. So I did that, and

1059
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 5: you know, just to try to get a feel, uh again,

1060
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: just see certain things about the offense, see certain things

1061
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 5: about Josh Allen, because you know, even really high level

1062
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 5: quarterbacks and and and people always take this the wrong

1063
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 5: way and then I'll get into something else. But people

1064
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 5: always think if you say a quarterback who's really good

1065
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 5: has to improve, you know, you know what you get

1066
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 5: on social media, Oh, you're a hater, you don't like him.

1067
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 5: I guarantee that they're working with Josh Allen on certain things.

1068
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 5: I guarantee it. Just because he's a really good player

1069
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 5: doesn't mean the improvement stops, or the attempt to improve stops.

1070
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 5: That never happens, particularly with good players. But one thing

1071
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 5: I'm very curious to see is what the balance is

1072
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 5: between playing twelve personnel with Knox and Kincaid on the

1073
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 5: field at the same time and playing eleven personnel. I'm

1074
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 5: really curious to see once the season starts against Arizona,

1075
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 5: how they And again that could be week to week,

1076
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 5: it could be opponents specific which it normally is, but

1077
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 5: obviously they're practicing certain things, so I'm very anxious to

1078
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 5: see how Joe Brady sees that.

1079
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the games that you watch that

1080
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: Joe Brady called plays for the final seven games of

1081
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: the regular season. What are some nuggets that you saw

1082
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: within those games that you think the team has got

1083
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: to carry over into this season because it worked so well.

1084
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 5: I think one thing you saw more of. We talked

1085
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 5: about motion last year. I think that's just become part

1086
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 5: of the league now with almost every team. I think

1087
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 5: you saw more play action from under center. And I

1088
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 5: don't know if that's a Brady thing. I don't know

1089
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 5: if Aaron kromer A has a say in that, because

1090
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 5: he's a veteran O line coach, but I think that's

1091
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 5: something I particularly like. Okay, you know again, that's just

1092
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 5: my personal feeling watching tape for over thirty years. I

1093
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 5: like play action under center. I particularly like play action

1094
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 5: under center when it's outside zone because what that does.

1095
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 5: Everybody automatically assumes that play action just impacts second level defenders,

1096
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 5: meaning linebackers. But if you go outside zone with your run,

1097
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 5: look what happens is the defensive line. Their initial move

1098
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 5: is lateral, not vertical to the quarterback, so it slows

1099
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 5: down on pass rush. All you need in the NFL

1100
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 5: is to slow it down for half a beat, and

1101
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 5: you slowed it down. That's something that I think Joe

1102
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 5: Brady is going to, you know, be a little more

1103
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 5: part of what their offense looks like this year, because

1104
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 5: for the most part we've seen Josh Allen in the gun.

1105
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 5: I think you might see him under center a little more.

1106
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: We also kind of got a appetizer type taste of

1107
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: how Curtis Samuel is going to be utilized in this offense.

1108
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: It's going to be like a Swiss army knife. The

1109
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: Bears were doing the same thing with Veayleis Jones for

1110
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: what it's worth, But Samuel ran that nice tunnel screen

1111
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: got some yardage after the catch, yep. How much can

1112
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: his skill set make the Bills more difficult to prepare

1113
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: for on a weekly basis?

1114
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 5: Well, I think they have two Swiss army knives, and

1115
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 5: I think that's going to make it interesting because I

1116
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 5: think Shakiir is that guy as well. Now, last year

1117
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 5: I watched all the Shaqui's targets too, because you know,

1118
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 5: you guys know I liked him coming out of Boise

1119
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 5: and I thought, you know, obviously last year he started

1120
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 5: to become a factor later in the season. I mean

1121
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 5: last year he was predominantly a slot receiver. Forty one

1122
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 5: of his forty six targets came from an inside alignment. Okay,

1123
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 5: and he actually had the second highest yards per target

1124
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 5: from the slot in the NFL. Only Brandon Ayuk had

1125
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 5: more yards per target. But Shakir can line up outside.

1126
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 5: We for whatever it's worth, and it may not be

1127
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 5: worth anything. He did line up outside when he did

1128
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 5: play in the preseason game, and Samuel lined up in

1129
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 5: the slot. So both those guys I think have Swiss

1130
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 5: Army knife dimensions to their game, Brownie, and I think

1131
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 5: that that is something also to look for when the

1132
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 5: season starts.

1133
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about defensive position group that

1134
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: has quite a bit of competition in it this season.

1135
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the cornerbacks because you've got Kayer Elam

1136
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: out there, who is now healthy after he was on

1137
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: in reserved last season with a foot injury and then

1138
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 2: was inactive for the rest of the season. Once he

1139
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: was healthy, he's ready to go and has been making

1140
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: plays in training camp, has had the most interceptions out

1141
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: of the cornerbacks and most big plays during practices out

1142
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: of the cornerbacks. But then you have Rusuell Douglas who

1143
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: had the several interceptions when he came to Buffalo just

1144
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: picking up the playbook what he could. He was an

1145
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: impactful player out there. And then you also have Christian

1146
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: Benford who is just mister consistent when he is playing games.

1147
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: How do you look at that group as three, It's

1148
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: a good problem to have. You have three viable options.

1149
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott is calling this a clean slate for Kyir Elam.

1150
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: When we look at the three of these guys, it's

1151
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: hard to predict what's actually going to happen come week

1152
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: one and how that battle is going to shake out,

1153
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: because you do have guys who have different strengths too

1154
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: and can play to them depending on who you're playing.

1155
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Elom has been kind of a surprised disappointment

1156
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 5: for me and obviously for the Bills as well, because

1157
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 5: I really liked his college tape and I thought he

1158
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 5: had all the necessary traits physically. Don't know the kid

1159
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 5: all the necessary traits physically to be a quality outside

1160
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 5: corner in this league. You know, maybe this is the

1161
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 5: time that that happens. I don't know the answer to that,

1162
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 5: but certainly Douglas came in and he's been around the

1163
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 5: league and he's a certain kind of corner. He's one

1164
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 5: of those guys that and I hate to say this cliche,

1165
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 5: but it seems true with him that he seems to

1166
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 5: have a good feel for the ball. And Bedford, you know,

1167
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 5: he's a late round pick out of Villanova. He's been

1168
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 5: pretty solid, pretty consistent, So we'll see how that plays out.

1169
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 5: But elim if you're just looking at physical athletic traits,

1170
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 5: he would have the highest level in that area. So

1171
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 5: I'm really anxious to see if he can play to

1172
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 5: those trades and become the starter, because if he can

1173
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 5: play to those trades, you're gonna have to put him

1174
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 5: on the field.

1175
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: Right some day. Three draft picks showed up on occasion

1176
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: in this game. On Saturday, Ray Davis showed up actually

1177
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: in the passing game out of the backfield, broke some

1178
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: tackles as well, and then Javan Solomon, the pass rusher

1179
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: out of Troy. He's just really put together. Greg, Like

1180
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: you stand next to this guy. He's thick everywhere, even

1181
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: though he's got long arms and eleven inch hands. Uh,

1182
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: he has flashed as well. I'm just very curious where

1183
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: Solomon fits in a in a loaded defensive end room.

1184
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: I think we know Davis is going to be on

1185
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: this team. It was it was interesting to see him

1186
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: get some third down work and some blitz pick up

1187
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: and then factor as a receiver out of the backfield.

1188
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. I really like Ray Davis coming out of Kentucky.

1189
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 5: He started, he's been, he'd been with three schools. I

1190
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 5: really liked his tape at Kentucky. He's he's a different

1191
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 5: back than James Cook, So you know, you could see

1192
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 5: both getting you know, Cooks obviously the number one back,

1193
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 5: but you could definitely see Davis. He's physical, he's bigger,

1194
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 5: he's low to the ground, he's a hard runner, but

1195
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 5: yet he's got some juice to him. He could be

1196
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 5: one of those guys that he just keeps working and

1197
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 5: working and you feel you got to get him on

1198
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 5: the field, you know, situationally. I mean, obviously he's not

1199
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 5: going to get fifteen carries a game, but he could

1200
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 5: be one of those situational backs. Javon Solomon was a

1201
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 5: fascinating watch coming out of Troy. He does not quite

1202
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 5: have the length you want, but he's got long arms.

1203
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 5: I mean length in terms of height, but he's got

1204
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 5: long arms. He was one of my favorite players to watch.

1205
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 5: He's played with such high level intensity and competitiveness. I

1206
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 5: imagine he does that in training camp when he gets opportunities.

1207
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 5: I said, he'd find a place in the NFL to

1208
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 5: spot despite not possessing some of the critical factors many

1209
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 5: teams might look for. But he's got, as you said, Brownie,

1210
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 5: long arms. I like him. I mean, yeah, if you

1211
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 5: can rush the quarterback, okay, there's a place for you

1212
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 5: in this league now. And they are definitely going to

1213
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 5: be looking for someone who can win one on one

1214
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 5: from the outside. And if he can do that as

1215
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 5: he continues through camp and the preseason, if we get

1216
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 5: to Week one against the Cardinals and he's shown that

1217
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 5: he can rush the quarterback and win one on one

1218
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 5: matchups and it's not a matter of sacks, it's a

1219
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 5: matter of impacting the quarterback, then he's gonna there'll be

1220
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 5: a place for him.

1221
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just really quick, So me and my broadcast

1222
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: partner Eric Wood were talking about him during the game,

1223
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: and Eric, who is a Louisville alum, said I'm gonna

1224
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: give you a comp, so I'm curious what you think

1225
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: of this. He went Elvis Dooomerville as a comp for Solomon.

1226
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: You know, shorter build but effective with bend off the

1227
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: edge and strength. And you know, Doomerville's a Louisville guy.

1228
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: So maybe Eric's a little biased, but I thought it

1229
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: was an interesting comp for Solomon.

1230
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 5: I think it is. I think Duomerville might have weighed

1231
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 5: a little bit more, but you know, maybe ten to

1232
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 5: fifteen pounds heavier than Solomon. But there's no question when

1233
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 5: I watch Solomon at Troy, and that's a good comparison.

1234
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 5: He's a sudden, twitchy edge rusher from wide alignments. He's

1235
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 5: got first step explosiveness. He showed the ability to bend

1236
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 5: that motorcycle lean. He's got body flexibility, he could flatten

1237
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 5: his rush path. I mean everything about him. And again

1238
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 5: then you'll get caught up in well, he didn't play

1239
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 5: in a Power five conference and all that, But you

1240
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 5: know what, you look at traits and attributes and if

1241
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 5: he can do that at the NFL level, then he's

1242
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 5: going to be on the field situationally for the Bills.

1243
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: The last time we talked to you was during the draft,

1244
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: during our draft shows that we had, you know what

1245
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: this team looks like now after the draft and picking

1246
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: some guys up via rookie tryouts. Now that you've seen

1247
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: this roster a little bit in that first preseason game,

1248
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: you know the guys on the team right now, do

1249
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: you believe the Bills have what they need to go

1250
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: out there and get better this season, hopefully better than

1251
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: what they did last season.

1252
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think there's many questions on offense. Obviously,

1253
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 5: the left guard position is David Edwards now, who was

1254
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 5: their six O lineman last year. They played a lot

1255
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 5: of six O line I imagine they'll find someone who

1256
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 5: can fill that role because he'll be the starting left guard.

1257
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 5: But other than that, I mean, people will look at

1258
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 5: the receiver position obviously because it's different. But I think offensively,

1259
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 5: you probably feel pretty good. I think you'd probably like

1260
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 5: to see a little more. You know, I hate this word,

1261
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 5: but it fits consistency. Offensively, they had moments where they

1262
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 5: looked unbelievably good and then other games where it just

1263
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 5: seemed like it took too long to get started. You know,

1264
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's hard for me not being there

1265
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,520
Speaker 5: to know the reason for that. But I think defensively,

1266
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 5: you do have a few questions. We talked about the

1267
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 5: pass rush, the secondary. I think I think it's still

1268
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 5: a bit of a question. You know, they're going to

1269
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 5: have two new safeties. That's always a question. If they

1270
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 5: were to start the season tomorrow, guys, who who would

1271
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 5: be the starting safeties?

1272
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: It's probably Tailor rap and I think Mike Edwards was

1273
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: the plan, but he hasn't been healthy, same as Bishop,

1274
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: so it's probably Jamar Hamlin.

1275
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 5: So Edwards and Bishop have not been healthy.

1276
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: Well, they've missed much of camp and still aren't back yet.

1277
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 3: And Edwards has missed the entire offseason. He wasn't even shoulder,

1278
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 3: that's right.

1279
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 5: Could he got it? Didn't get hurt in the playoffs

1280
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 5: last year?

1281
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know if that

1282
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: was connected to the injury he had in the spring.

1283
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: Perhaps it was, I'm not sure.

1284
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 5: So yeah, I remember I think he got hurt in

1285
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 5: the Bills game in the playoffs.

1286
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes he did. I think that was a concussion.

1287
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 5: Though, Oh okay, But anyway, so I look in an

1288
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 5: ideal world, they want either Edwards or Bishop to be

1289
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 5: the starter opposite Taylor Rap and by the way, Taylor

1290
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 5: Rap and again nothing against him, but he's a question

1291
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 5: as well because he's never really been that guy. So say,

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Speaker 5: you know, the secondary is I don't want to say

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Speaker 5: it's a concern because I hate to use that word.

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Speaker 5: At this time, we don't know the answer to these

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Speaker 5: questions yet, but it's it's a work in progress. We

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Speaker 5: just don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, Greg, we'll catch up with you here

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Speaker 1: and obviously, well we'll get you every week during the season,

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Speaker 1: so we look forward to that. That's going to be

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Speaker 1: here before we know it. Thanks very much, Thanks Greg,

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Speaker 1: all right, I appreciate it. Thanks all right, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Co Sales senior producer from NFL Films. And yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Solomon because I know he liked him coming out.

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's no secret to us, Maddy. It's

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Speaker 1: a crowded position. I mean, especially if Dwan Smoot is

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01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to play more in than tackle.

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01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: He can kick down inside and do both. He's big

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Speaker 1: enough to do that. But I think he's a veteran

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Speaker 1: player that the coaching staff clearly likes he's on the right.

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Speaker 1: And then you have the holdovers and the incumbents in Rousseau,

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Speaker 1: Epanessa and Miller. That's four right there, and we haven't

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Speaker 1: even talked about Casey two Hill, who's been a good

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Speaker 1: edge setter. He's a little injured right now. So and

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Speaker 1: then after that it's Kingsley, John and Javon Solom Are

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Speaker 1: you keeping five? Do you think about keeping six?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 1: What is the number there?

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Speaker 2: And how are they using the maybe last few players

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Speaker 2: in that position group special teams exactly? Who do they

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Speaker 2: feel like is a better option at special teams from

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Speaker 2: what they've seen so far in camp. I think that's

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Speaker 2: that's going to be the telltale sign of are you

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Speaker 2: going to make this roster or not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you have to balance that against how

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Speaker 1: many defensive tackles are you keeping because Smoot can kick

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Speaker 1: down inside and play some defensive tackle. Do you keep

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Speaker 1: one less defensive tackle because you have position flex with Smoot?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know. So these are all of the debates and

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Speaker 1: conversation that go on when the coaching staff and the

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Speaker 1: personnel department get in the room to determine the fifty

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Speaker 1: three man, you.

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Speaker 2: Do feel like you need to keep one more edge

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Speaker 2: rusher because of von Miller's status.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and if Vond's only going to play thirty

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Speaker 1: snaps a game as a pass rush specialist, that might

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Speaker 1: necessitate that you keep an extra one for that reason alone.

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Speaker 1: Forget about whatever else you like about the defensive tackles

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Speaker 1: you got on the roster, the defensive ends you got

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Speaker 1: on the roster, And I don't think this should be

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Speaker 1: dismissed either. A lot of times, what comes into the equation, too,

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Speaker 1: is do we have a chance of getting this guy

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Speaker 1: through waivers and then onto the practice squad twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours later. If the answer is no, sometimes they keep

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Speaker 1: extra guys, and we've seen that in recent years. What

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Speaker 1: do they do? They cut reed Ferguson knowing they're going

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Speaker 1: to bring him back on the roster in a day

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Speaker 1: or two. But they do that so they can keep

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Speaker 1: an extra young guy that they're worried about losing if

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Speaker 1: they put him on the practice squad. So you wonder

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Speaker 1: if that's a tactic that they employ again this year,

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Speaker 1: because I think they've done it. I want to say

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01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: they've done that with Read each of the last two years.

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Speaker 1: To get somebody through. So yeah, it's I think there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be some fascinating debates this year in the personnel room.

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Speaker 2: Special teams makeup this season is also a little bit

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01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: different when you look at the dynamic kickoff and the

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Speaker 2: type of bodies that you want on special teams.

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Speaker 3: When when you're out there.

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Speaker 2: On the field, it's it's every team is going to

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Speaker 2: be different. But you think it's a line of scrimmage play,

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Speaker 2: you want bigger bodies out there.

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Speaker 3: You want you want.

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Speaker 2: Bigger bodies who have the quick burst off of the edge.

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Speaker 2: If it's a line line of scrimmage play, you also

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Speaker 2: do want some fast guys out there to in case

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Speaker 2: somebody breaks through. But the thought process of what do

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Speaker 2: I need on special teams does change a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that, at least, my observations of the

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Speaker 1: kickoff play saw basically linebackers, tight ends, and dB That's

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Speaker 1: what we saw on the kickoff, the dynamic kickoff, which

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Speaker 1: really isn't all that different from a kickoff coverage team

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Speaker 1: of the days of old. It's usually linebackers, dbs and

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Speaker 1: tight ends. If you have some athletic ones that can

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Speaker 1: run forty yards, so does that change in week two

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Speaker 1: of the preseason, do they try other personnel groupings and

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Speaker 1: see if it's more successful. I think everybody's just trying

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01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: to hedge their bets and cover their bases as best

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Speaker 1: they can, and linebackers and dbs and tight ends kind

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Speaker 1: of fall into that category. There might have been a

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Speaker 1: receiver or two out there, but I don't remember seeing

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01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: one on the coverage unit per se. Mac Hollins would

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Speaker 1: be a candidate for that, but he was down for

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Speaker 1: the game last Saturday. We have to take a break here.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we got to go around the NFL.

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of kickoffs, there was a wacky thing that happened

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Speaker 1: over the weekend in preseason game action, and we'll get

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: to that. It involved the Chiefs and the Jaguars and

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01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: a no no on kick return. Who was the guilty

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Speaker 1: party will tell you next Here on One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right

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Speaker 1: back here on One of Bill's Live, Chris Brown Eddy

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Speaker 1: glab with you. We're gonna go around the NFL, now

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Healthy, Official Healthcare System of the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: News of the of the Buffalo Bills. I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say the Buffalo News. Yeah, so we've uh, we've you know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna kind of break down news for you here.

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Speaker 1: But there is some breaking news dot dot don Dom

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Speaker 1: Matty shared it with US.

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Speaker 2: Breaking news. Uh Jets all pro pass Russia. Hassan Reddick,

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: who has been holding out, has informed the team that

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01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 2: he wants to be traded. According to Jordan's Schultz.

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01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 3: He says this is per multiple sources.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my, oh, what did I tell you, Maddie?

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: Did I tell you that the Jets are experts at

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01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: self sabotage. You can't fix those guys. Man with a

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01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: toolkit and a carpenter and a contractor, you couldn't fix him.

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what I said. I said back

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Speaker 1: in the spring. So they had a homegrown talent named

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01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: Bryce Huff, twenty six year old pass rusher who was

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Speaker 1: set to become a free agent, really good rotational pass

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Speaker 1: rusher for them, and they developed him in house, one

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Speaker 1: of the few development projects for the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: that worked, and they decided they did not want to

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Speaker 1: pay him in free agency. He signs with the Eagles

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Speaker 1: three years, fifty one million, dollars seventeen a year, not

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01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: to break the bank, but a good a good salary

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Speaker 1: for you know, a rotational pass rusher who has production.

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Speaker 1: And uh, what did the Jets turn around and do

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Speaker 1: after letting him go? They trade with the Eagles for

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Speaker 1: a thirty year old pass rusher who's four years older. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: Reddick has great production. I'm not going to deny that

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Speaker 1: for a second. I think he had fourteen sacks last.

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Speaker 3: Year eleven, last year sixteen, the year eleven.

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Speaker 1: Last year, sixteen year before. Okay, he when he was

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles said he wanted a new contract, and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles said, no, we're not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, we're not going to do it.

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Speaker 1: They signed, They signed Bryce Huff, younger player with upside,

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Speaker 1: and trade Hassan Reddick to the Jets, who I think

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01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: gave up a third round pick in the trade to

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Speaker 1: acquire him. Knowing how you do not know that he

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Speaker 1: wanted a contract extension after he told the Eagles that,

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Speaker 1: and you trade for the guy. What do you think

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Speaker 1: he was just gonna play this year? God? Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And now you're a third round pick. It maybe you

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Speaker 1: can get it back because you're gonna have to trade.

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Speaker 2: Him conditional third round pick in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I think it could become a two. If

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Speaker 1: he gets like ten sacks or something, it.

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Speaker 2: Will become a second rounder of Reddick plays sixty seven

1442
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: and a half for some of the snaps this season,

1443
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Speaker 2: or has ten or more sacks, ten or more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I thought. I remember reading, Oh my gosh.

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01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: So it's just it's hard not to laugh. But I

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01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: almost don't laugh anymore because it's just completely expected. I

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Speaker 1: said that was a dumb move back in the spring,

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Speaker 1: and look at this, it's a dumb move. I'd love

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Speaker 1: to I mean, if Joe Douglas can wriggle his way

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Speaker 1: out of this and make it work, that's great. But man,

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01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: oh man, just just bad decisions because you're gonna you

1452
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: can't tell me you're better as a pass rushing team.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: Look, I know they got JR. Main Johnson and they

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01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: got Will McDonald, two former first round picks. They're talented.

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01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: It's not like the cupboard is bare. But you wanted

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01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: to bring this veteran guy in for a reason, and

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01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like he's gonna be there. Either. Now.

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Speaker 1: I guess the Jets could play hardball and say no,

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Speaker 1: suck it up, come play or don't play, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to do, and maybe they do that. I don't know,

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01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: but this one smelled like three day old fish from

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Speaker 1: the moment they made the trade. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna work. So I'm not saying I would

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Speaker 1: like to tell you I'm surprised, Maddie, but I am

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Speaker 1: not surprised at all. The other breaking news came out

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati camp. They're starting right tackle. Rookie first round

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Speaker 1: Pickamarius Mims out of Georgia has a strained pectoral muscle

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Speaker 1: and he is going to be out for a period

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Speaker 1: of time here. It's undetermined whether or not he will

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Speaker 1: be ready for the season opener. I mean they had

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Speaker 1: him penciled in as they're starting right tackle, and that

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Speaker 1: might be up in the air for a week one

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals. Other stuff around the league, the preseason games.

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Speaker 1: It obviously took place over the weekend. Bo Nick's to

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Speaker 1: the rookie QB of the Broncos. I thought he looked

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Speaker 1: the part. Playing against the Colts, led four scoring drives,

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Speaker 1: so he looked pretty good. He's battling Jared Stidham for

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Speaker 1: the starting job. Both of those guys spend parts of

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Speaker 1: their college careers at Auburn, so that's a little interesting.

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson not a part of the competition, so he's third.

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01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: He's odd man out already. Then even got to the

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Speaker 1: preseason games, He's already the odd man out, Zach Wilson,

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01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: we hardly knew you. Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson returned after

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Speaker 1: missing most of the last season with his throwing shoulder injury.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there was much report there other than

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01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: his arm looked good. The throwing the arm strength was there,

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Speaker 1: so maybe that's all the cult are really looking for.

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01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: Here was an interesting thing that came out of that game.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, the running back, wore the Guardian cap, which

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Speaker 1: players can where this season. It's like an extra padding

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01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: thing that goes over the top of the helmet. It's

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01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: the same stuff essentially that we see the players wearing

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Speaker 1: in practice. They do have the freedom to wear them

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Speaker 1: in games. I'm not expecting it to be enormously popular, Maddie,

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01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: but how long do you think it takes before maybe

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Speaker 1: half the league's wearing them. How many years?

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Speaker 3: I would say a couple years.

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Speaker 2: You see it in practice every single day now, so

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Speaker 2: I would guess it's only a matter of time before

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Speaker 2: one person makes the move, then another person does, and

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01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: then it's you know, I would guess why guys don't

1503
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 2: want to wear them is it does look It looks different.

1504
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 2: You got a big thing on top of your head. Actually,

1505
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 2: as we're looking at it now on MSG network, they

1506
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: do put the logo over it, so it's a little

1507
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: bit different of a look than you see at practices,

1508
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,799
Speaker 2: which it just looks like, you know, a white bubble

1509
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: helmet that's put a top of your helmet during practices.

1510
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 3: So I don't thing it looks terrible.

1511
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: I think what happened, what has to happen is one

1512
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 2: guy has to buy in and be like I'm fine

1513
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,759
Speaker 2: doing this, and then more people are going to follow.

1514
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 3: You see quite a few players.

1515
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: Wearing the Q collar things around their necks to protect

1516
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,799
Speaker 2: their brain. I feel like that's becoming more and more common.

1517
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: Those are hard to see too, so it's a.

1518
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: Lots more subtle. Yeah, it's a lot more subtle addition

1519
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:26,839
Speaker 1: to the uniform attire. I think it's a wait and see,

1520
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: because we have no evidence that Jonathan Taylor is going

1521
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: to keep wearing it which he gets to the regular season.

1522
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: And of course, these players are looking for the slightest

1523
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 1: edge here, there, or anywhere, So to put something on

1524
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: there that slows you down to another pounds and a

1525
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: half doesn't seem like much of a big deal to us,

1526
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 1: and it might not to linemen per se, but for

1527
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: a running back or receiver that's trying to get inches

1528
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: of separation, it might preclude them from wearing one. But

1529
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: we'll see. I think it's going to take a little

1530
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: time to get ingratiated into regular season fall. Steelers offensive lineman. Incidentally,

1531
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: James Daniels war one in Pittsburgh's preseason opener. We'll see

1532
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: if he wears it again against the Bills after that

1533
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: test run. League research says when Guardian caps are worn,

1534
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: they reduce head contact force by ten percent if one

1535
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: player is wearing them, and twenty percent if all players

1536
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: are using them. We saw over the weekend that Chiefs

1537
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:28,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver Marquise Hollywood Brown suffered a major shoulder dislocation

1538
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: in Saturday's preseason game against the Jaguars, had to go

1539
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,839
Speaker 1: to a local hospital get checked out, but he was released.

1540
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 1: Reid said, however, he is going to miss some time.

1541
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 1: Would not go as far as saying that the season

1542
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: opener is up for debate, but it's a week to

1543
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: week injury, I think is pretty safe to say. He

1544
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: compared it to Tyreek Hill's injury when he was back

1545
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs in twenty nineteen, and he missed four

1546
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: games with that injury in twenty nineteen. But we're just

1547
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: under a month from the start of the regular season. However,

1548
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are playing in the kickoff game, which is

1549
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: three days earlier than everybody else's, so he's only got

1550
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: about twenty four days I think to be ready for

1551
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: the opener. Bill's openers twenty seven days away.

1552
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 2: I think I have that r we kicked off September eighth.

1553
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Pass rusher Jalen Phillips, as we know, ruptured his

1554
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: achilles in the Black Friday game against the Jets last

1555
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: year at MetLife Stadium. He is off the pup list

1556
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins now, about seven to eight months removed

1557
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: from the injury. Based on everything I've heard out of Miami, though,

1558
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be playing regular season

1559
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: football in the first month of the season. I think

1560
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: that'll be he'll be held out of that, which means

1561
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: he would miss the Week two game against the Bills

1562
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:52,919
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night football.

1563
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean torn achilles that takes time to come back from.

1564
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 2: Even when you are off the pup list, do you

1565
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: have to you have to clear some things with your

1566
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 2: athletic training staff as you're making your way back into

1567
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 2: football shape.

1568
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: I think they'll bring him along slowly playing in games though,

1569
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 1: that's that's a different animal, So we'll see how it

1570
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: goes for him. Giants top pick the league Neighbors suffered

1571
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: an ankle injury in practice. He's considered day to day.

1572
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: Brian Dable, head coach, said he thinks he'll be okay.

1573
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: They were worried that there might be a fracture in there,

1574
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: like a Jones fracture or something, but X ray's fortunately

1575
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: for them, came back negative. Because that guy is going

1576
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: to be option number one, two and three in that offense.

1577
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, say, you can't get injured.

1578
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: So he's pretty important to what they're trying to do.

1579
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 1: We saw the San Francisco forty nine ers cancel their

1580
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 1: joint practice on Sunday with the Saints because the Niners

1581
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:56,839
Speaker 1: are beat up. They had like up to twenty players. Geez,

1582
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: a ton of guys, twenty three players.

1583
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 3: In season, out of season, that's right. They're always injured.

1584
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: The Chargers. Yeah, those guys always seem to have a

1585
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: laundry list of injured players. And this is we're not

1586
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: even one preseason game in and we're talking about big

1587
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: name guys like Christian McCaffrey, Fred Warner, their top pick,

1588
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: Ricky Piersoll. They're all nicked up, all sorts of Nick

1589
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: dub And then my favorite thing from the weekend, let's

1590
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: hear it. The dynamic kickoff is under the microscope. Maddie

1591
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs had a major gaff on a kickoff

1592
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. So the Jaguars kicking off to the Chiefs,

1593
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: ME call Hardman back for the Chiefs on the return team,

1594
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: the ball is kicked into the end zone on a

1595
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: fly which is still the landing Zone's fine, but it

1596
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: bounces back onto the field of play to the one

1597
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: yard line. Hardman goes racing to the ball, stands in

1598
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: the end zone and pulls the ball from the one

1599
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: yard line into the end zone. With him and takes

1600
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: a knee and says, eh, touchback. The refs also say touchback.

1601
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, head coach of the Jaguars, is jumping up

1602
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,879
Speaker 1: and down. He's hopping mad because he says, no, you dopes,

1603
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 1: that's a safety. And you know what, he was one

1604
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: hundred percent correct. The replay official upstairs buzzes down to

1605
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: the head official on the field, who was Trey Blake

1606
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,480
Speaker 1: and got it wrong and said, hey, buddy, that's a safety.

1607
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 1: He took it from the field of play into the

1608
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: end zone. It's a safety. So he reviews it on

1609
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: the surface and they finally get it right, which I

1610
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 1: guess is you know, the endgame here. And so Mikole

1611
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Hardman looked as confused after it was reversed as anybody

1612
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: can't imagine what that special team's meaning is going to

1613
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: look like on Monday with Dave Talb, the special teams

1614
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Chiefs. It's a safety, McCall, it's a safety.

1615
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 2: You can't do that on the No, it's a learning

1616
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 2: beeriad for everybody, free season for everybody.

1617
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: Apparently, so UH had to bring that up. I enjoyed

1618
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: watching him screw that up. Royally. Uh, gotta take a

1619
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: break here. We'll squeeze in a phone call or two

1620
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: when we get back here. On One Bill's Live, presented

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01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: by a lout of health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

1622
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: we're back here on One Bill's Live. We're gonna squeeze

1623
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: a phone call in here real quick as we go

1624
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: to Louis in Hamilton. What we got for his Louis?

1625
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 9: Hey, Chris, how are you good?

1626
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1627
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 9: I really enjoy your coming and your and your show.

1628
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 9: You have a nice uh you know, you have a

1629
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 9: nice way to describe the Bills, and then you've been

1630
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 9: doing it for a long time, so I really appreciate it.

1631
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 9: Michael watching is Chris. I'm a little concerned about the

1632
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 9: wide receiver position after the big four receivers that we

1633
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 9: have or the obvious four, get it to number five,

1634
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 9: it's gonna be a little difficult. And my question is

1635
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of people this is my opinion,

1636
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 9: only Derek giving up on the Chase Claypool. I don't

1637
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 9: have to see him on the field even for one

1638
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 9: piece is a gift just to see what if he's really,

1639
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 9: you know, could do anything, because it seems his head

1640
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 9: is spun is spun on straight and he's trying really

1641
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 9: hard in mini camp and everything, and it's unfortunately he

1642
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 9: missed some time.

1643
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately, we gotta I gotta jump here because we're

1644
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: up against the break. I want to try to answer

1645
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: your question. I get what you're saying. I mean, I

1646
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: think I think they'll keep six, right man. Yeah, Claypool's

1647
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: got to get on the field though, as they say,

1648
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: you can't make the club in the tub, and he's

1649
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 1: still not practicing with the toe injury. That's the challenge

1650
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: for him. I like, I think Tyrrel Shavers has put

1651
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: himself in a good spot. There's games to play and

1652
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 1: we'll see what Caju Hamler can do his return vs.

1653
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 2: Two.

1654
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: That's it for us today. We'll catch you tomorrow at

1655
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: one mm hmm