WEBVTT - From Birthright Citizenship to Balloon Boobs

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<v Speaker 1>Native Lampid is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with Reason Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you got some new headphones.

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<v Speaker 3>Well what the hell? Anytime you feel like a.

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<v Speaker 4>Boy, if you don't, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn And so today we are in full turtleneck protests

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<v Speaker 1>because Bacari still.

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<v Speaker 4>Got them raggedy and he got me in a mock turtle.

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<v Speaker 4>That video a turtle next.

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<v Speaker 5>So I would not be I will not be bullied.

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<v Speaker 2>I will carry does not have on his turtle neck.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we do is we have on our turn

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<v Speaker 2>on next.

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<v Speaker 1>So if just everybody at home, if you see this,

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<v Speaker 1>please wear turtle next all week in protest, and til

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<v Speaker 1>Bakari gets a new headphone, yeah, walk.

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<v Speaker 2>Up to him and just say turn on that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode one hundred and twenty five of Native

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<v Speaker 1>lampod where we give you our breakdown of all.

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<v Speaker 2>Things politics and culture.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Angela Raie, joined here with my co

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<v Speaker 1>host Andrew Gillian and Baccari Sellers and we are joined

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<v Speaker 1>again by a sister friend, again by a machete and

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<v Speaker 1>the virtual building. Nominated for What's Better Than One webby

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<v Speaker 1>two for her podcast Undistracted, returning next Thursday. She is

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<v Speaker 1>Brittany Pacneck Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome britt Or.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're nasty, if you nasty, period. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 6>to be back with you all, especially.

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<v Speaker 7>On a day when I get to participate in Bookari Center.

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<v Speaker 6>So thank you for much.

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<v Speaker 8>Truly, truly, I was reading It's hard out here every since,

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<v Speaker 8>every since we won that Oscar a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 5>It just ain't been. It ain't been the same we.

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<v Speaker 3>Who is we?

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<v Speaker 9>How?

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Michael Bokard, Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Bokar, Jordan, you know this is getting underline stocker ish,

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<v Speaker 1>It really is the facts, Michael book Sorry, Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>We're sorry for this man.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, he's gonna say, he's gonna say, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>this man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he is. He gonna do you like he did

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<v Speaker 2>for his high from his high school.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into today's show, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>let you all know about a very exciting upcoming event.

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<v Speaker 4>Us, especially in Family Ratlers. We got a great alumni

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<v Speaker 4>chapter up there. I hope to see all.

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<v Speaker 3>In the building, y'all.

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<v Speaker 8>Andrew, Happy Spellman nights. And I guess if you went

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<v Speaker 8>to more House too, you can come through.

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<v Speaker 4>Understand did you see you understand what you did?

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<v Speaker 1>Go to spell them in a little bit too. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying absolutely, man, I bet, but car you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a little more enthusiastic for your alma mind.

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<v Speaker 5>They be there.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a difference that I went there and I graduated.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see I would like to see a

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<v Speaker 1>fam you More House competition.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see if More rather show.

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<v Speaker 4>Competition, we would not.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not a competition, So who's gonna win?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's not a question either, I mean, what are

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<v Speaker 4>we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>It?

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<v Speaker 5>Not a real life people.

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<v Speaker 8>Been thrown Yeah, they you know they apply and and

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<v Speaker 8>struggle sometimes and go to family.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm sorry, maybe you're confused about what the competition is.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know whether more Fam You folks or

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<v Speaker 1>more more House folks will be at our show.

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<v Speaker 4>Never More House is based in I don't know the

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<v Speaker 4>city any second place that they would have an impressive turnout,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm willing to put some money on it, and

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<v Speaker 4>you will absolutely absolutely dominate the space.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm gonna only way that happens if Andrew buys

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<v Speaker 8>all the tickets himself.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't buying.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, it's going to be a cop party.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well let's see that.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see there we gonna And of course, the only

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<v Speaker 4>way more House is gonna be there and full effect

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<v Speaker 4>is if what Oprah or what's what's the man Smith?

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<v Speaker 4>Or who else underwriting y'all's education? I mean, he said,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think it's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay. I'm gonna move on from this, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do want this competition. So if y'all went to more House,

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<v Speaker 2>show up.

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<v Speaker 1>If y'all went to FAMI, you show up, Spellman Clark Atlanta, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Show up to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's there's any Seattle, you law school of Lumps,

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<v Speaker 1>come to jub and Georgia.

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<v Speaker 5>P W I for real, for really.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a p B. I we're gonna do a roll

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<v Speaker 2>call at the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, y'all, because we got a lot of news,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>This news week has been crazier than that Duke yukon

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<v Speaker 2>game ending. Let's roll that real quick by.

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<v Speaker 4>The cut and run through the ball though better than

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<v Speaker 4>the sky, get it into bridge and bashar ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Boozer that bought.

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<v Speaker 11>The floor stolen bat Collins caravan two seconds tosses it up.

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<v Speaker 12>We're poor.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about a Cinderella ending.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>That unfortunately is not how our news is going this

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<v Speaker 1>week though, So for your situational awareness, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to get into. While the United Nations voted one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty three to three, US, Argentina and Israel

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<v Speaker 1>are the chumps that were confused and did not acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that the transatlantic slave trade was the gravest crime against humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>We still at some point need to discuss the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two abstentions, largely from European countries. But on another day,

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<v Speaker 1>also a Trump appointed district court judge ruled against Evanston

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois reparation program. Meanwhile, speaking of injustice, his former National

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<v Speaker 1>Security Advisor, General Michael Flynn received a settlement from dj

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<v Speaker 1>for wrongful prosecution despite being all up and through the

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<v Speaker 1>Muller Report and convicted for lying to the FBI about

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<v Speaker 1>his conversations with the Russian diplomat. He got a one

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<v Speaker 1>point two million dollars settlement. Now we're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 1>this is Briannam. The reason Christy lost her job is

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<v Speaker 1>he compliment This man is the well I'm let me

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<v Speaker 1>just get through it, y'all, y'all, let me still throw

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<v Speaker 1>to it, let me talk, let me throw to it,

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<v Speaker 1>then y'all jump in. So this man has been moonlighting

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<v Speaker 1>virtually with sex workers. The selfies with balloon booths are

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<v Speaker 1>the least of the issues here. He has been telling

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<v Speaker 1>family business to folks he does not know. And can

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<v Speaker 1>we say hypocrisy much? Let's look at what Christy has

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<v Speaker 1>to say about these issues.

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<v Speaker 12>Normally, in South Dakota only girls play girls sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because of Governor Christy Nomes Leadershi.

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<v Speaker 11>Christy Gnomes stood up for us, passing the toughest law

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<v Speaker 11>in the country to defend female sports.

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<v Speaker 4>So what happens with trans athletes?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, if a trans athlete does make a sporting team

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<v Speaker 13>and keeps a biological female from making the team. That

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<v Speaker 13>biological female that missed out on the opportunity will get

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<v Speaker 13>the chance to pursue litigation to play.

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<v Speaker 11>There is a statistic circulating around right now that ninety

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<v Speaker 11>percent of South Dakota's LGBTQ community is diagnosed with either

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<v Speaker 11>anxiety or depression.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 12>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 13>That makes me sad and we should figure it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a spoof for herself?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that was really It turns out that she's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a spoof now on this. I want to know what

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<v Speaker 1>y'all think. This is a lot happening in the GNOAM household.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it explains a little bit why she's dipping off

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<v Speaker 1>with Corey Lewandowski allegedly, but I am curious to know

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<v Speaker 1>what y'all's thoughts are.

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<v Speaker 8>I do have one immediate concern about this that's been

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<v Speaker 8>bothering me. And one of the pictures that I had

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<v Speaker 8>to see of mister Brian though, the dog was in

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<v Speaker 8>the back, and I believe that this is why. This

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<v Speaker 8>is why I believe the dog got knocked off. I

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<v Speaker 8>think the dog saw too much, the dogs, the dogs

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<v Speaker 8>saw too much. She had to take it out. So

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<v Speaker 8>I just want you all to know that nothing happens

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<v Speaker 8>in a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 4>Manager, Oh, I know it applies, yes, sir. My general

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<v Speaker 4>thought is is I what people do in their private

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<v Speaker 4>lives is their private business. The problem with all of

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<v Speaker 4>this is this woman has made it a toward to

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<v Speaker 4>forced cause to make the lives of lgb LGBT persons

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<v Speaker 4>and very specifically transgender individuals that make their lives hell.

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<v Speaker 4>And then wonders, actually partly I don't even believe her wondering,

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<v Speaker 4>but wonders out loud, why it is that depression is

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<v Speaker 4>so skyrocketted amongst the community that you targeted. It is

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<v Speaker 4>not create It is not courageous. It's not bold to

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<v Speaker 4>cast legislation, to pass statewide legislation and signing into law

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<v Speaker 4>a law that affects what three people, two people in

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<v Speaker 4>her state? Who does that? Who does that?

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<v Speaker 9>So?

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<v Speaker 4>I just, you know, I don't know the man. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>God bless him for sitting through that hearing while you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he had to hear all about the Corey of Lewandowski

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<v Speaker 4>stuff while she was doing her testimony before Congress. But

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<v Speaker 4>my guess is, you know, he probably kind of knows

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<v Speaker 4>what the situation is she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was telling the sex workers about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, all I'm saying is is I think they

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<v Speaker 4>prepared each other for their respective centerfolds.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that they both knew what was going on,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think a conspiracy is a foot. Chall want

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<v Speaker 7>to know what my conspiracy theory. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 7>the theory allegedly. Okay, so here's my thing. They both

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<v Speaker 7>knew what the other person was up to.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 7>It ain't no way that you're the former director of

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<v Speaker 7>Homeland Security and you don't know what's going on in

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<v Speaker 7>your husband's text messages. Right, But this information got released

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<v Speaker 7>right around trans Day of Visibility. And one of the

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<v Speaker 7>main issues that trans people have with this country affirming

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<v Speaker 7>their identity is that people always accuse them of being

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<v Speaker 7>cross dressers when they're saying, no, this is my gender

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<v Speaker 7>identity and expression. And so I feel like this got released.

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<v Speaker 7>She knew it was coming, and she said, let me

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<v Speaker 7>go ahead and put this out and continuously undermine the

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<v Speaker 7>very community that I continue to rel Again, that's my

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<v Speaker 7>conspiracy theory, and I'm very much sticking to it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think one of his showns put it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, but let me tell y' all.

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<v Speaker 1>This this is only beginning of trans issues, not just

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<v Speaker 1>in the country but in the world. International Olympics Committee

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<v Speaker 1>banned trans women from competing. According to BBC, the IOC

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<v Speaker 1>has not published the scientific research it based this decision upon,

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<v Speaker 1>but has stated that at the elite level there is

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<v Speaker 1>a ten to twelve percent male performance advantage in most

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<v Speaker 1>running and swimming events, and that rises to twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>in most throwing and jumping disciplines and one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>in sports such as boxing that involves explosive power. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>they said this is their scientific research that they base

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<v Speaker 1>their decision upon. The problem with their decision is this

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<v Speaker 1>band doesn't just keep trans women out of sports. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Olympic medalist caster Samenya herself.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, you always know it's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 14>For me, like I said, I've mentioned that it's about,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, women integrity.

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<v Speaker 3>For you, as a woman, why will you be tested

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<v Speaker 3>to prove that you fit?

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<v Speaker 14>You know, It's like now we need to prove that

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<v Speaker 14>we are worthy as women to take part in sports,

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<v Speaker 14>not the disrespectful women, but for anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone has their own opinion.

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<v Speaker 14>But for me personally, say, why will you allow women

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<v Speaker 14>to take part in sports if you're going to question them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm surprised here Donald Trump is taking credit for

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<v Speaker 1>the decision of the IOC. Last February, he signed an

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<v Speaker 1>executive order that prevents transgender women from competing in female

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<v Speaker 1>categories of sports here in the United States. He stated

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<v Speaker 1>in addition that he would deny visas for any transgender

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic athletes trying to visit the United States to compete.

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<v Speaker 2>In the games in Los Angeles. What are you all thoughts?

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<v Speaker 8>So, my fundamental issue with this is that politically, practically

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<v Speaker 8>and legally speaking, I think it's more of a red

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<v Speaker 8>hearing than anything else. I think it's a cultural war

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<v Speaker 8>that Republicans like to fight. There are more bills filed

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<v Speaker 8>in state legislatures across the country banning trans athletes from

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<v Speaker 8>playing in sport. Then there are trans athletes playing in sport, right,

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<v Speaker 8>So it's meant to get you riled up. And Donald

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<v Speaker 8>Trump actually ran probably the most divisive, evil ingenious ad

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<v Speaker 8>we've ever seen, well recent and recent political history, when

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<v Speaker 8>he said, Kamala Harris is for they them, I'm for you.

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<v Speaker 8>That ad pierced through and affected the conversation. It hit

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<v Speaker 8>a message that they were honing in on, that they

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<v Speaker 8>were hammering on. And what I don't see is Democrats

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<v Speaker 8>fighting back on grounds they can win on. For example,

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<v Speaker 8>all right, you want to ban trans athletes, why don't

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<v Speaker 8>you make sure that you increase budgets for mental health

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<v Speaker 8>young people who are struggling. Because although I don't see

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<v Speaker 8>an increase in trans athletes playing sport, I do see

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<v Speaker 8>the number of young people committing suicide rising daily. And

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<v Speaker 8>no one's having that conversation. And so let's get in

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<v Speaker 8>a room and hash this out, I think. But Democrats

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<v Speaker 8>have to reframe the argument because right now they're losing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll pick up where you where you ended, because

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's that's that's where that's the crux for me,

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<v Speaker 4>which is, while you are one thousand percent correct around

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<v Speaker 4>the advertising that was done, the red herring that Republicans flow,

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<v Speaker 4>we still have to acknowledge that this shit is having

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<v Speaker 4>impact in a diletarious effect on the community itself. Those

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the parents. I mean, I think about the

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<v Speaker 4>ways I agonize around. I would throw myself in harm's

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<v Speaker 4>way for any one of my children any day of

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<v Speaker 4>the week, multiple times, so long as I had non

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<v Speaker 4>lives to live, right, think about the agony parents must

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<v Speaker 4>go through when they're saying, look, I don't know about

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<v Speaker 4>everybody else, but I know about my child. And when

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<v Speaker 4>you do something that is going to put my child

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<v Speaker 4>in harm's way, not your ability for your story to

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<v Speaker 4>compete and compete with other athletes and whatever, but the

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<v Speaker 4>life of my child, it just takes us to a

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<v Speaker 4>whole you know, it takes us to a whole other level.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll just say again, whether Democrats get it on

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<v Speaker 4>this or Republicans get it on this, we all need

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<v Speaker 4>to get it on this, which is, there's nothing bold

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<v Speaker 4>or courageous about attacking the smallest minuscule set of a

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<v Speaker 4>population that exists in our society. Wh will we be

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<v Speaker 4>creating countless laws going after the extreme minority of people

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<v Speaker 4>in our community. I just think it is hateful and

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<v Speaker 4>it's terribly harmful for the people that we're that they're targeting.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, these folks have always shown that their favorite

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<v Speaker 7>target practice is the most vulnerable and the most marginalized, right,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's exactly what we're dealing with here. But in

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<v Speaker 7>addition to everything that's been said, I think it's important

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<v Speaker 7>to note that so many black queer women who are organizers'

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<v Speaker 7>activist writers have been reminding us that black women were

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<v Speaker 7>never included in the definition of femininity in the West

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<v Speaker 7>in the first place. So so much of the transphobia

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<v Speaker 7>that goes against our trans siblings also comes against us.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's exactly the reason why what Caster said to

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<v Speaker 7>the African head of the IOC matters so much. That

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<v Speaker 7>these are conversations that have to do with us. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>whenever somebody wants to say something about a black woman,

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<v Speaker 7>what do they go for? Right, They go for our looks.

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<v Speaker 7>They say we're too masculine, they say we're all of

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<v Speaker 7>these things. They accuse former first lifelies of being trans,

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<v Speaker 7>and I know we're going to talk about that in

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit. These attacks have to do with us too,

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<v Speaker 7>and when they practice it on the most marginalized, it's

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<v Speaker 7>coming for us next.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and let's deal with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of executive orders that are instigating fights where there

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<v Speaker 1>is no battle, Donald Trump has signed two within the

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<v Speaker 1>last seven days on voting, but he feels like he

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<v Speaker 1>has an exception.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's roll that clip.

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<v Speaker 15>Tell me about mail in ballots going You may not

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<v Speaker 15>use the mail in ballot. You probably said, yeah, I did,

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<v Speaker 15>you know what, Because I'm President of the United States,

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<v Speaker 15>and because of the fact that I'm President of the

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<v Speaker 15>United States, I did a mail in ballot for elections

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<v Speaker 15>that took place in Florida because I felt I should

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<v Speaker 15>be here instead of being in the beautiful sunshine taking the.

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<v Speaker 4>Last few weekends.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 15>And yeah, and I decided that I was going to

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<v Speaker 15>vote by mail in ballot because I couldn't be there

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<v Speaker 15>because I had a lot of different things. But you know,

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<v Speaker 15>we have exceptions for mail in ballots. You do know that, right,

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<v Speaker 15>So if you're away, we have an exception. If you're

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<v Speaker 15>in the military, we have an exception. If you're in

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<v Speaker 15>a business trip, we have an exception. If you're disabled,

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<v Speaker 15>we have an exception. And if you're ill, if you're

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<v Speaker 15>not feeling good. So I was away mostly in Washington,

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<v Speaker 15>d C. So I used the mail and bell. But

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<v Speaker 15>I appreciate the question because I know, I know it

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<v Speaker 15>was so well man.

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<v Speaker 4>You know here before the word who raised the questions there?

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<v Speaker 4>Her brother was my intern for a number of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth. Yeah, Land, shout out to Elizabeth. Okay, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>done on this topic just yet. In addition to this,

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<v Speaker 1>you all are clear about this, but this is Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's way around the Save Act in the event that

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<v Speaker 1>it does not pass, and so he also wants to

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<v Speaker 1>develop a nationalist completely traveling states rights. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Maya Wiley, who runs the Leadership Conference on

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<v Speaker 1>Civil and Human Rights.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for the clip.

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<v Speaker 16>I'm Maya Wiley, President and CEO of the Leadership Conference

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<v Speaker 16>on Civil and Human Rights. And here's what we need

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<v Speaker 16>to understand. Ever since coming into office, Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 16>been trying to make it harder for voters to vote.

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<v Speaker 16>One of the things he has gone after is mail

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<v Speaker 16>in voting. Many states allow it, and don't forget that's

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<v Speaker 16>what an absentee ballot is. A mail in ballot. About

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<v Speaker 16>a third of Americans vote by mail. And here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 16>It really helps us black Americans to be able to vote.

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<v Speaker 16>So he just signed an executive order where he does

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<v Speaker 16>not have the power unilaterally by himself with a pen,

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<v Speaker 16>to change how federal election laws work. But nonetheless, he

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<v Speaker 16>signed an executive order that essentially says, hey, Department of

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<v Speaker 16>Homeland Security, I want you to create a list and

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<v Speaker 16>you tell us whose citizens are, even though that's not

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<v Speaker 16>your job. You know what the Department of Homeland Security does.

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<v Speaker 16>It decides who's over state of visa. It decides who

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<v Speaker 16>it gave permission to come to the country or who

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<v Speaker 16>does not have permission to be in the country. That

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<v Speaker 16>is not the same thing is saying who is born here. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 16>it will include social Security data as well, but just

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<v Speaker 16>know this. The Department of Homeland Security is the same

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<v Speaker 16>department that Donald Trump and others have been insinuating should

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<v Speaker 16>show up at our pole sites, should have something to

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<v Speaker 16>do with our elections. That's wrong, but it's also an

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<v Speaker 16>effort to make it harder for voters to do what

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<v Speaker 16>States who have the power to decide who can vote

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<v Speaker 16>how they can tell people to transmit their votes. And

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<v Speaker 16>Donald Trump as president does not control the United States

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<v Speaker 16>Postal Service because he's essentially saying the United States Postal

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<v Speaker 16>Service should be basically able to look at the list

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<v Speaker 16>it gets from the Department of Homeland Security and decide

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<v Speaker 16>not to transfer a ballot even after a state has

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<v Speaker 16>said please send this. So that's wrong and we won't

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<v Speaker 16>stand for it, and nor will the courts. It's unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 4>Just know this.

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<v Speaker 2>We have power.

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<v Speaker 16>Our power is real, so vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much Tamayah for sending in that video

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<v Speaker 1>to break all of that down. I will tell y'all, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>President's president is still a loser, and that is evidenced

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<v Speaker 1>by all of the rulings against him this week. One time,

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<v Speaker 1>for the first Amendment of federal judge ruled Trump's executive

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<v Speaker 1>order prohibiting funding for PBS and NPR was unconstitutional. In

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<v Speaker 1>another case that one hundred and twenty year old East

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<v Speaker 1>Wing has been demolished by Trump for a four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar renovation, a judge told him to hold his

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<v Speaker 1>horses because he is a steward, not the owner of

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, and that the project must stop until

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<v Speaker 1>quote Congress authorizes its completion. And a federal judge in

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<v Speaker 1>Boston US District Court, Judge Allison Burrows blocked the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration's attempt to end timperate parole status under the Biden

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<v Speaker 1>era CBP one policy. That policy impacts more than nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand migrant y'all, and speaking of folk, Trump thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he has no right to be here. Birthright citizenship is

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<v Speaker 1>before the Supreme Court today. If y'all don't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>on those other three cases. We can jump into the

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<v Speaker 1>birthright citizenship case.

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<v Speaker 4>Well before we get the birthright. And I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 4>going through that, Angela, because he has been taking body blows.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing I didn't see mentioned there, but it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't I guess directly against Trump is the funding for NPR,

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<v Speaker 4>which is vital for I didn't say that. That's why

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<v Speaker 4>I said I missed. I don't always, you know, be tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going through quick ag.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a lot of yeah. But but I will

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<v Speaker 4>say back on the first case, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>underscore that what Trump has instructed the US Postal Service

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<v Speaker 4>to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Is when.

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<v Speaker 4>Ballots are put in the mailboxes to be returned from

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<v Speaker 4>my home address to go back to the supervisor of elections.

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<v Speaker 4>That that is when the federal government, the Postal Service,

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<v Speaker 4>is supposed to intervene to take that ballot and determine

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<v Speaker 4>run my name through their database to determine whether or

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<v Speaker 4>not they will deliver that ballot to my supervisor of elections. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>for some of y'all, that may make sense for me,

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<v Speaker 4>it makes absolutely none. Obviously, the laws against them. It

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<v Speaker 4>is not how it's supposed to work. But let me

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<v Speaker 4>tell you, before that ballot ever shows up at your

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<v Speaker 4>home or my home, your supervisor of elections has already

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<v Speaker 4>run your name and determined that you're eligible for a ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>So if folks are curious of whether or not just

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<v Speaker 4>mysterious ballots are being mailed out to anybody who asks

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<v Speaker 4>for one, that's not how it works. He is creating

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<v Speaker 4>a new barrier to prevent our votes from being legally

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<v Speaker 4>cast and counted contrary to what the state law is.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I want people to really get the offense.

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<v Speaker 4>Here is a federal government inserting itself because of its

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<v Speaker 4>delivery of mail services. To then decide that they're just

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<v Speaker 4>going to take on a whole another power, run my

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<v Speaker 4>name through a database, and decide to dispose of my

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<v Speaker 4>vote or deliver it. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>I look at it from a different angle a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>I think the judicial independence is something that we really

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<v Speaker 8>haven't taken seriously as a country up until recently. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>I go back to Rama Manuel when he was chief

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<v Speaker 8>of staff of Barack Obama talking about the lack of

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<v Speaker 8>import they're putting on justices. Because he had to pass

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<v Speaker 8>the Affordable care act. I think about the fact that

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<v Speaker 8>we had people out here talking about the Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 8>and Donald Trump were the lesser of two evils when

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<v Speaker 8>you had three Supreme Court justices up. And it's just

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<v Speaker 8>something that we haven't really spoken to voters about, both

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<v Speaker 8>locally and on a state level and the federal judiciary,

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<v Speaker 8>because when you see rulings like this, it usually comes

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<v Speaker 8>from extremely smart, independent jurists who understand the law and

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<v Speaker 8>who can apply the law to these draconian measures that

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<v Speaker 8>the administration is trying to put forward. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>I know every week I get on here and talk

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<v Speaker 8>about elections. I think last week we talked about the

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<v Speaker 8>Secretary of State and for some people that may be mundane,

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<v Speaker 8>but man, focus on your magistrates all the way up.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we are seeing the import of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I think what you're saying is another reminder of why

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<v Speaker 7>elections matter and is one of those dots people don't connect,

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<v Speaker 7>right that the elected folks are who appoint the judges.

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<v Speaker 7>The other reason why election elections matter so much that's

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<v Speaker 7>being demonstrated here, though, is that as important as these

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 7>rulings are, he's already done the damage. The Corporation for

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<v Speaker 7>Public broadcasting is already shuttered because the funding got removed.

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 7>The East Wing is already destroyed and all of its

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 7>history along with it. Right, So when you elect people

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 7>who wipe their flabby behinds with the constitution, the litigation

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 7>is important, but it can only do so much if

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<v Speaker 7>we put them in power in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that is true, but thank God for the

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<v Speaker 1>courts that we do have with that with good sense,

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.360
<v Speaker 1>because they are stopping the activity that have already that's

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>already been taken CPS, I mean, I'm n PR and PBS.

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<v Speaker 1>That is unconstitutional and that is a protection of the

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment. It would have been nice if it would

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<v Speaker 1>have stopped before all of the bleeding. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>at this point we got to get we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>But car are you?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, damn, I'm thirsty too, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 7>to pop it since.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, y'all, So.

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<v Speaker 8>Y'all think just stay like this man. You gotta you

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<v Speaker 8>gotta mind your business and drink your water.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows speaking of coke cans, Let's turn our attention

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<v Speaker 1>to uh the Supreme Court case Claire Thomas. Let's start

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 1>with him. You know, every now and then, not every

0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>now and then. Anyway, today Claire Thomas asked this question

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<v Speaker 1>bout Riscott, and that's not the question we have. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to roll the first Claire's Thomas question

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<v Speaker 1>we have. I just want to acknowledge Donald Trump, who

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>has been in the room for or arguments we're saying today.

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 1>But it's going to ar tomorrow obviously, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>still fresh, so we don't have it all together. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to roll this Claire's Thomas question.

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<v Speaker 17>Generally, you're getting a lot of questions about immigration, and

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<v Speaker 17>they harken back, of course to the citizenship which is

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<v Speaker 17>defined in or set out in the fourteenth Amendment. How

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<v Speaker 17>much of the debates around the fourteenth Amendment had anything

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<v Speaker 17>to do with immigration.

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<v Speaker 11>I think that the principal focus of those debates it

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<v Speaker 11>has to do it really not with immigrants, but with

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 11>the Indian tribes. I mean, obviously, the main goal, that

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<v Speaker 11>one pervading purpose of this court set in the slaughterhouse cases,

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 11>was to establish the citizenship of the free slaves and

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 11>their children. But they were very concerned about the problem

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 11>of something that they all accept it as a given,

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<v Speaker 11>which is that the children of tribal Indians are not

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 11>within the rule of birthright citizenship. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 11>what they focused and we draw an analogy to that

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 11>too the issue of temporary sojourners. But there are mentions

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 11>of temporary sojourny multiple places in the congressional debates, and

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<v Speaker 11>all of those quotes go in our direction.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if y'all want to get into another

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>part of the orals here, but what is I think

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>really fascinating. The lead attorney on our side of the

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>issue is a child of immigrants arguing birthright citizenship. And

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<v Speaker 1>you see the blatant hypocrisy not only of the Republican Party,

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration, and probably some of these justices when

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>this ruling will eventually come out or on this particular issue,

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>some of them being children of immigrants themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know I.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to do if I could just back up a

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<v Speaker 4>second to mention because I know we've all been inisconsd

0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 4>in this case, as we've heard oral arguments today before

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 4>the you know, the High Court. But but what's that

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 4>question here is that the President has signed an executive

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 4>order several months back that basically says that redefines the

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 4>fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which established, just for all

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 4>of our knowledge, that an individual born here in the

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<v Speaker 4>United States is considered a citizen of the United States

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 4>of America, regardless of where their parents originated. And there

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 4>are a few exceptions to that rule, usually having to

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 4>deal with diplomats, foreign diplomats and high ministers to a

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 4>respective country, and in the in the case of foreign occupation,

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 4>that the law doesn't apply to those individuals. Those individuals,

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 4>but they're basically for exceptions to to the law. And

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<v Speaker 4>it really even though you heard the mention of Dred

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 4>Scott uh the fourteenth Amendments, how it came into formation

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<v Speaker 4>in the first place in eighteen sixty eight. It was

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<v Speaker 4>part of what we now know as the sort of

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 4>reconstruction clauses of the Constitution, and those were the thirteenth, fourteenth,

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 4>and fifteenth Amendment, giving black folks in this country access

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 4>to the constitutional guarantees that we were denied at the

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.719
<v Speaker 4>forming of this country. But it dates back to the

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 4>early sixteen hundreds, as part of Calvin's case in Great

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 4>Britain that established that anyone born under the jurisdiction of

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 4>the king had to be basically obedient and as a

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 4>subject of the king, regardless again of what their parents

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 4>did or where they came from. So, although it's been

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 4>the law of the land for one hundred and fifty

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 4>years coming into formation, since the Fourteenth Amendment, it has

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<v Speaker 4>been the practice of the United States, mostly for white men,

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 4>but the practice of the United States since before the

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 4>founding of the United States of America. So this man

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 4>has the audacity to challenge this constitutional amendment that basically

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 4>black people are responsible for it having come into formation

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 4>in the first place. And I just think we are

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 4>to as a community, really understand the import of this

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 4>debate today, this week, and in the weeks ahead as

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 4>the Supreme Court sort of deals with this. I think

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people are assuming that it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>go one way. But I thought the same thing about

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 4>other settled pieces of law, that the court, this court,

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 4>this conservative court, would go one way, and it ended

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 4>up going a different one. So let's just pay attention

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 4>to what's happening here. The Fourteenth Amendment exists because of us,

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 4>but as affirmed for in future cases, it applies to

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<v Speaker 4>everybody and anybody born here in the United States. On

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 4>our soil.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just the party. I do think.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you back in into context here, Andrew is important.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, moments after leaving the oral arguments, went to

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<v Speaker 1>Truth Social Number. By the way, this is the only

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>time in history documented that sitting president attended oral arguments,

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>so that's also a major We can argue that he

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>was there to try to intimidate the justices in some way,

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>but he posted on true Social shortly after leaving, we

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>are the only country in the world stupid enough to

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>allow birthright citizenship. He's wrong. Thirty other countries at least

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>also have birthright citizenship. The other piece that I think

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>is really important here, and I actually want to at

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>least commend John Roberts for this one statement he made.

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<v Speaker 1>The Solicitor General General was arguing that even though the

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Framers didn't have in mind, which was John Roberts question,

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that this is the type of situation that would come

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>up people coming here, you know, falling in love with

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>someone who was already a citizen here and having a child.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>How do you determine whose parent you know is responsible

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>for the ab and where their citizenship lay. And the

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Solicitor General sowers says, we're in a new world now,

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and John Roberts, Chief Justice John Roberts says, back, it's

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a new world, but it's the same constitution. And so

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I think there are these interesting pockets where you see

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>their humanity. But to Andrew's point, we are literally one

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court decision away from the dismantling and the gutting

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and the wrongful interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment, of any

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>amendment in any single case, in any single case, they

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>could decide not to rely on President. They could they

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>could decide to rely on Court president case President that

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>is not in our favor, right like it ain't always been.

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<v Speaker 1>The Supreme Court decision we're talking about dread Scott. Dread

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<v Speaker 1>Scott is not what established birthright citizenship. It was the

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>case that broke dread Scott's hard enough to cause his

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>death because they did not see him as a citizen,

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>as a human, because he was an enslaved person right property.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Chattle.

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<v Speaker 8>Can I ask one question though, one of the things,

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 8>because I think both of you, and Andrew, you highlighted

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 8>the importance Angela and Andrew gave us the history. But

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 8>one of the questions we haven't answered for listeners, and

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 8>I want to see what you three think and and

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 8>kind of just trim it down is why, you know, what,

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 8>why are they going through this?

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 5>Why are they going through this exercise practically?

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<v Speaker 4>Like why?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want to I want bread to be

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>able to wait into.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm a lawyer, but I have been black

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 7>my whole life.

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean growth up because on the table, I'm.

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 7>From Saint Louis, which means every the show me state period,

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 7>y'all know, I put on for Saint Louis. And every

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 7>MLK day we marched from Pala Symphony Hall to the

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 7>old Courthouse in downtown Saint Louis where Dread and Herriot

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 7>Scott stood before or the Missouri State Supreme Court. They

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 7>were also members of the church that my father later passored,

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 7>the second oldest church founded by free and enslaved black

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 7>people in the state of Missouri. And thinking about that history,

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 7>what is clear to me is that what they told

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 7>Dread and Hariet about what they thought about their.

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 6>Dignity and humanity remains true.

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 7>So they didn't recognize their humanity and their dignity, then

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 7>they don't. These folks don't have any intent on recognizing

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 7>our humanity or dignity now, and just because they're using

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 7>us as the cudgel to try to make their argument

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.959
<v Speaker 7>doesn't mean that we're safe. And I think it's really

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 7>really important that those of us who can trace our

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 7>families back four and five generations on this land don't

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 7>get comfortable and think that this thing can apply to us,

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 7>because it absolutely can. I just think that they want

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 7>the whole thing to themselves. That's just what I think

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 7>it comes down to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think brit is right. I do want to just

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>if I can drop in another clip. We have a

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>dissenter in chief in this Spreme Court. Her name is

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Katanji Brown Jackson, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, and today she

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>demonstrates I think a great in her questioning Bikari an

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 1>answer suggested answer to your why, let's row that.

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<v Speaker 10>Did I understand you to say that domicile is going

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 10>to be eventually or is controlled by Congress? Who is domiciled?

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 10>I'm struggling to figure out who is domiciled in your argument.

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 11>The domiciliaries are people who are lawfully present and have

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 11>an intent to remain permanently. So that's the kind of

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 11>black letter understanding of domicile. Now, Congress can't dictate that

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 11>certain classes of people legal entrance and so forth cannot

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 11>lawfully lack of legal capacity to form a legally binding doctor.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that so?

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<v Speaker 10>Then doesn't it make the domicile for the purpose of

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 10>the Fourteenth Amendment turned then ultimately on Congress's will in

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 10>a way that the Framers did not intend. I mean,

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 10>my understanding was the Framers put this citizenship clause into

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 10>the Constitution to prevent future Congresses from being able to

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 10>affect citizenship in this way.

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<v Speaker 4>For sure.

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<v Speaker 11>Very briefly, no, I don't think so, because it is

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 11>up to the alien whether or not they want to

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 11>be domiciled here. Now there may be.

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 10>Complect because said Congress can make determinations as to who

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 10>counts as being domiciled here. So that's true, Then it

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 10>ultimately would impact in your theory whether or not this

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.720
<v Speaker 10>person can claim that they have citizenship for Fourteenth Amendment

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 10>purposes based on Congress's determination. And I just thought that's

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.720
<v Speaker 10>what the fourteenth Amendment was trying to get away from.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, very briefly, I just point you to the discussion

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 11>in Professor Worman's and make us brief where he talks

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 11>about this is not a new problem, going back even

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.399
<v Speaker 11>to the British Common Law, there's a situation of people

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 11>who lack a safe conduct and are passing through the

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 11>King's domains without permission, and he says, the best reading

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 11>of the common laws, they are not in the protection

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 11>of the King, and they're not covered by their royal

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 11>birthright citizenship.

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<v Speaker 4>I sink through. He's been real colorful with the language there.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will tell you, first of all, I'll say

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 4>Justice Jackson and I would add to that Justice Soto

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Mayor both have a way of making the High Court

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 4>accessible in their questions and the way in which they

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 4>summarize their questions. As a non lawyer, I feel like

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 4>I can access what it is that they're trying to

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 4>say and what the crux of the argument is about.

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 4>To Bakari's question, because I think it really it's a

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.240
<v Speaker 4>great one, and it's one that we all ought to consider,

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 4>Like why now, why after terms, before the founding of

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 4>this nation, does it decide under Trump and his stooges

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 4>to redefine who a US citizen is. And although a

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:49.720
<v Speaker 4>lot of us may think that this thing is powered

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 4>by the immigration of Latin Americans. I think into the US,

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 4>that's who they like to use as today's sort of boogeyman.

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 4>I think it has everything to do with what surfaces

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 4>in Donald Trump's voice. Every time he has the opportunity

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 4>to talk about the kinds of people he believes ought

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 4>to be in the United States, he talks about people

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 4>from shithole countries, places that we don't want.

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:19.280
<v Speaker 4>He talks about South America at the whole continent of Africa.

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 4>To forgive him, he doesn't know the demographic diversity that

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 4>exists on the continent, but but whatever be that as

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 4>it may. And then when he talks about Europe, he

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 4>talks about Europe you losing its authenticity, its identity because

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 4>of the immigration of brown people. So lets none of

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 4>us get it confused that what this thing is about

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 4>isn't just about Latin American immigration in this country. They

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 4>wish to reverse the wheels of immigrants, of of of

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 4>the census of this country going forward. They know that

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 4>white folks have a lower birth rate than any other group.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 4>They know that the browning of America is real, that

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 4>is here, and that it will increase, And so to

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 4>preserve their power they believe they need a more eurocentric

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 4>United States of America. This is this is based in

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:19.240
<v Speaker 4>racism as the origination here, as was the Fourteenth Amendment

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 4>which saved us from it, as was the Southern State

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:26.840
<v Speaker 4>then implementing their own discriminatory laws after the Fourteenth Amendment

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 4>to keep US from accessing power. So they're not talking

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 4>about black people. They're not name checking us right now

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 4>as the problem. They're using us and escapegoading us as

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 4>part of the solution through the Fourteenth Amendment on this argument.

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 4>But don't get it twisted. They see US as big

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 4>a threat as they see Latin American immigration. They don't

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 4>want us counted in the census, and they don't want

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 4>us being the majority. Ultimately, I think this is about

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 4>what you hear Donald Trump say, which is he wants

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 4>a wider America and he wants an America that brings

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 4>people in from European country who are also just European

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:03.720
<v Speaker 4>and Dutch.

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 6>People from South Africa.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't forget, they gone back.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 5>They don't even like it here. They all said they

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 5>going back.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 2>They said this is a way.

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 5>They said, we want to be in the ghetto.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that you know, just Summarily, it's two things,

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 8>and I think Andrew hit the nail on the head.

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's it's about power, and it's about fear.

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 8>It's the fear of losing what they believe to be theirs,

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 8>the browning of America, this inability to understand Angela rise

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 8>phrase that this joint for free right and uh not

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 8>acknowledging that the equity of of of what diversity has

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 8>put into this country, not recognizing those contributions. And I

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 8>think lastly, it's about just not valuing diversity. You know,

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 8>that power, that that power talking point is so real

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 8>because it comes down to elections. They see them so

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 8>of having a better opportunity winning an election, maintaining power

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 8>with the fewer black and brown folk in this country, period, point.

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<v Speaker 4>Blank, fullstop.

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<v Speaker 8>And I honestly don't think that Donald Trump. I find

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 8>him to be a useful idiot for those of it,

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 8>those individuals who are around him, because I think that

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 8>we don't We talk about it a lot, but the

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 8>stephen Millers and the Bannons of the world are the

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 8>ones who are orchestrating this.

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 4>And then the.

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<v Speaker 8>Sad part is the the Cassidys and the Cottons of

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 8>the world, the Hallys of the world, the Dvanceas of

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 8>the world, don't have the testicular fortitude to be able

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 8>to rise up to this case, this occasion and actually

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 8>recognize what America is and or her value.

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 5>So I think power and I think fear are witsdriving this.

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<v Speaker 7>That mean fear is a tool for power though, right,

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 7>fear is how you maintain power. I say this all

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 7>the time, and I teach on this every single conflict

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 7>in the West, in America, in particular, in white dominant culture,

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 7>comes down to the desire to hoard power. White dominant

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 7>culture teaches us that power is a pie and there

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 7>are only so many slices to go around. The idea

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 7>that we are all born with innate power and it

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 7>is therefore abundant, and we can share it and all

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 7>be better when we share it is foreign to a

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 7>white the ideology of whiteness, right, it is it is

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 7>natural to our communities. It is foreign to them. So

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 7>they're going to maintain power through by any means necessary

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:45.240
<v Speaker 7>and at all costs, which means stoking fear, which means

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 7>stoking violence very intentionally, right, because that's always a tool

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 7>of power.

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 6>Because they mean to.

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 7>They intend to ensure that they don't share power with

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 7>anybody but themselves. And if there are wealthy people of

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 7>color who think they gonna get it in on a pie,

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:01.320
<v Speaker 7>they are sadly mistaken.

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, Macary said a really important phrase moments ago.

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>They used the word the ghetto, and that is how

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I felt all weekend, because it feels like the ghetto here.

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>My girls planned a whole trip to go see the

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 1>iconic tour, which would include Salt and Peppa TLC and

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>in Vogue and Chili.

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Of TLC.

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Was was bound to God, who I also heard was

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>her friend.

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if that's true.

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>We won't ask her to confirm nor deny, because when

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>she confirms nor denies, it turns out it's not always

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 1>actual and factual.

0:43:53.680 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 2>To use a TLC.

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<v Speaker 1>All I would like to say in this moment is

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that we should let her speak for herself. This is

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a long, meandering video explaining her reposting a Michelle Obama

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>clip which I'll say I might surprise you on the

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>other side of it, and then her written statement. So

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.760
<v Speaker 1>let's get into those two things, and then Nick Cannon,

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:27.919
<v Speaker 1>we got you next, buddy, especially because you didn't text

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>me back Chili.

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 9>Hey, guys, I wanted to come on here to address

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 9>a few things that's circulating on the internet that's very

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 9>concerning to me. Let me say this first. I have

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 9>the utmost respect and admiration for Michelle Obama, and I

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 9>would never say or do anything that is disrespectful to

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 9>her or to any woman. I would never do that.

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 9>And I had no clue that this repulse had happened

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.800
<v Speaker 9>until I started getting phone calls and text messages from everybody.

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 9>And I immediately went to my page to see what

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 9>was going on. Now, mind you, I'm not very computer savvy,

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 9>so I'm looking for this repost button, and I see

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 9>that all of them, all of these buttons are very

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 9>very close to each other, and clearly I was scrolling

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:23.320
<v Speaker 9>and my thumb hit the repost button. Again, I had

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 9>no clue that something like this happened until I got

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 9>all the calls. But of course I took that down,

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 9>and you know, I would never post anything like that.

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 9>I would never do something like that. That is not

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 9>my character. I have supported the Obamas, I gave to

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:48.879
<v Speaker 9>the campaign both runs, voted twice for him, and supported

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 9>the organization that Michelle had in the schools for exercise

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.280
<v Speaker 9>for the kids.

0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 6>I would never.

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 9>Do any thing that's harmful or hateful to anybody, you know.

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 9>I am just not wired like that, that is, that's

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 9>just not who I am. And when it comes to

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 9>organizations that I have donated to, these are the things

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 9>that support the veterans. You know. I have always supported them,

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 9>not just now, but for years. This is not something new.

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 9>So I just wanted to let you guys know. You

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.879
<v Speaker 9>know this from me. You know that I would never

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 9>do anything so disrespectful, and I would just never I'm

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 9>just not about hate or anything like that. You know.

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 9>If you look on my page and see my post,

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:47.399
<v Speaker 9>It's all about love, faith and connection. That's what I'm

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 9>all about, you know. And I've always been that way

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 9>and I will continue to be just that way. So

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 9>I just want to thank you guys for you know,

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:01.359
<v Speaker 9>your love and your support and just taking the time

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 9>to listen to me right now.

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I really really.

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 9>Appreciate that, and I love you guys. Thank you so much.

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:11.839
<v Speaker 1>So not such shots fired at the end of the

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>TMZ clip that we can, but to go ahead, Bakari,

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 1>before we get into what you're going to say, let's

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>just post her statement up so we can read that

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>as well, because that video addressed the Michelle Obama piece,

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 1>but it didn't really address the donation. So she says,

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to be clear. I am not MAGA and

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:34.439
<v Speaker 1>do not support any of the many policies that are

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 1>causing great harm to the American people. I made a mistake,

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.240
<v Speaker 1>too many make. I did not read the fine print.

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was supporting causes against human trafficking and

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 1>four veterans, two things I care deeply about as my

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.720
<v Speaker 1>dad is a veteran and everyone knows I love children.

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I have learned a valuable lesson and asked for grace

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 1>as I navigate this now. Bakari, I do want to

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>hear from you, but I just want to say one

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>thing is someone who actually likes to manage crises. The

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>first rule here is you cannot lie. Once you have

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>been targeted and people have like they're focusing on you,

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>they're going to go dig through everything. So you say

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that you didn't know that your contributions were to political entities,

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 1>but in your video you said you donated to the

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama campaign several times, so you do know how

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to donate politically.

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 2>That's one.

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 6>Two.

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>They're likely not to just look at your FEC filings

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>from twenty twenty four. They're likely to go back to

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty two to twenty to eighteen to sixteen to see

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 1>where you donated. People are likely to pull your voter

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.839
<v Speaker 1>registration records. Now, to be fair to her, somebody did

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 1>pull her voter registration records. They had her labeled as

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 1>a Republican. That's not actually how it looks. I went

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to look for myself. But I also would advise someone,

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>if they were a client, that you need to be

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>mindful that people will also check who you follow and

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.800
<v Speaker 1>what posts you've liked, even if you did not share

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:04.239
<v Speaker 1>said posts. So some of the posts she liked from

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Byron Donald's page. She's not as political, but she's following

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a member of Congress from Florida. She lives in Georgia

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:12.839
<v Speaker 1>and Stone Mountain, Georgia. Look, I don't really care what

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.720
<v Speaker 1>AOC has to say, is one of the posts. Congratulations

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 1>to Florida's own Marco Rubio on receiving a unanimous Senate confirmation.

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>The time for weakness is over, the time for indecision

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>is over, the time for appeasement is over. Thank you

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>real Donald Trump. Under your leadership, we are entering the

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>golden age of America. The best is yet to come.

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>She likes a post where it says, if you allow

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:36.959
<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood children into your house and they start breaking stuff,

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>do you let them stay? That's a post about immigration.

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>She likes a post of Pete Hegseth, who has single

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 1>handedly been violently detrimental to black women around DEI, and

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 1>she liked his confirmation posts where jd Vance is swearing

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:56.000
<v Speaker 1>in Pete Hegseth. That's just a few of what I found,

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and so I yield the Flooria to my mind.

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:05.440
<v Speaker 7>Don't forget. Is reportedly audio of Tea Boys on a

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:10.240
<v Speaker 7>previous radio show several years ago saying, and I quote

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 7>my bandmate voted for him as the team was talking

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 7>about Trump, and that can only be about one person.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because yeah, yeah, Well I was just gonna say,

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 8>I'm not disappointed. I think some of y'all may be disappointed,

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 8>but I'm not really that disappointed. I kind of say that,

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 8>you know, when people open their mouth, you find out

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 8>a lot about them, and they who they pile around with,

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 8>and how they think they might be a little different.

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 8>And you know, they sell one thing to our community

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.239
<v Speaker 8>and then they go out and do another. So you

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 8>know that ignorance, which is what it is, I think

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 8>is more pervasive than we give it credit for. And

0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 8>I must say this that a lot of times black

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 8>men get targeted because of some of those strands of

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 8>weird conservatism that we have running through our community, some

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:07.840
<v Speaker 8>of the things we saw during the during the twenty

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 8>twenty four and twenty twenty campaign as well. But I

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 8>think it's more pervasive than we would give it credit for.

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 8>And I think that's the sad.

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Partly clearly, I mean, and that's evident in some of

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 4>the outcomes of the elections where we thought it was

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna go one way and it ultimately went another. I guess, well,

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 4>she is entitled to believe whatever she wants to believe

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.759
<v Speaker 4>and to support whomever she wants to support. My confusion

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 4>comes in when you backtrack and you don't own up

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 4>to your shit. So if you believe, if say, for instance,

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:46.839
<v Speaker 4>faith is your reason that draws you nearer, I cannot imagine.

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 4>But that's just me and my brain, and I'm limited

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 4>how that would enure you closer to the policies of

0:51:52.200 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 4>a Donald Trump or Keith Keg's breath, or or frankly

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 4>anything that is emanating from the Republican Party right now,

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 4>because they are a walking contradiction of any faith legitimate

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 4>that I know of, not that I don't know of

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 4>one on earth that they are representative of from a

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 4>belief system, and and as expressed to their actions, this

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 4>man just praying for more deaths to be rained down

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 4>on innocent people. Right So, I'm talking about Hagg's breath,

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 4>that that that that you like, Chili. I just think

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:32.359
<v Speaker 4>if you're gonna believe that, then double down in it.

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:34.839
<v Speaker 4>But if you what you what you're trying to sell

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 4>me is I'm not very tech savvy, and so that's

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 4>why I stay off the internets. I ain't so savvy either,

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.400
<v Speaker 4>but I don't be on there trying to you know,

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 4>fake like I am. But the point that you make

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 4>one mistake, I think you know we can't get with that.

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Maybe two. But now you've got multiple instances of you

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 4>liking this strand of thinking and acting. Now you giving

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 4>a grand ain't lightweight.

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 2>And and giving to nine dollars just to either.

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 4>Way, nine hundred dollars ain't lightweight and give I mean

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 4>big weight.

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 5>For me.

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Was a woman given twenty dollars a month, right for

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 4>the duration of a year. That was big. So all

0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:16.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying is you want us to buy a couple.

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, a few mistakes, that's one thing. But now

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:23.719
<v Speaker 4>your actions are not turning into your habits. And so

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 4>don't be shocked when we start to assess you for

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 4>what are now your habits, which you are entitled to.

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 4>But if you're gonna, if you're gonna do the thing,

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 4>they own the thing say I'm there, and I'm there

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 4>for this reason. What I really feel, y'all is that

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 4>I've heard some of the background stories of a number

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 4>of those women who are part of this tour and

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 4>how the struggle has been real as the decades have

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 4>gone by, as new artists have come online, and all

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 4>of us understand how that works, the fact that they

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 4>are you know, I just Jay and I just went

0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 4>to the new edition and voiced the men and and

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 4>and Tony Tony Braxton h a concert and you know

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:10.279
<v Speaker 4>it was great, powerful voices. I loved the love that

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 4>was in the room. You know, for them, they didn't

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:14.399
<v Speaker 4>have to Bobby Brown didn't have to move his legs

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:18.359
<v Speaker 4>two times before. Folks were shotting like dot the mos. Yes,

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:21.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean it was around me. Yeah, it was. Oh

0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 4>my gosh. And you're looking at it side by side

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 4>with the video from like when he originally.

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Did it, and do it Andrew.

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 4>But we're so loving, We're like, oh boy, he is up.

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 4>He dropped it. I'm like, drop way he dropped off

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 4>the stage Andrew at any point he wanted to because

0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 4>he's left tired. I'm walking off and I'll be gone nice.

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:43.239
<v Speaker 4>But but but the point is that, like we got

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 4>mad love for these folks and I and I know

0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 4>that the struggle is real there, and the same is true.

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:51.279
<v Speaker 4>I've heard about many of the NVOGUE members and you know,

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:53.320
<v Speaker 4>living out of the you know your car and that

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:57.479
<v Speaker 4>kind of thing. I want so badly for their their

0:54:57.600 --> 0:55:01.880
<v Speaker 4>work to be properly recognized, celebrated, and for them to

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:04.319
<v Speaker 4>get the kind of win that they need from that.

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 4>And I fear, Chile that your repeated mistakes, which have

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:11.439
<v Speaker 4>now become not just mistakes but rather habit, which then

0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 4>tell us who you are at least some of who

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 4>you are, may have an impact there. And I would

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.080
<v Speaker 4>just adminded. I would just ask the folks out there,

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 4>there are ways in which we can we can we

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 4>can lift up our disdain and our rejection and our

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:30.319
<v Speaker 4>rebuff of of of her beliefs, and how we are

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 4>harmed by it, particularly in our community, while not punishing

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 4>the overwhelming majority of those women who highly skilled, have

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 4>always loved in our community, who are in a position

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:43.239
<v Speaker 4>now to receive love again from us.

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:44.040
<v Speaker 5>So let's give it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm gonna yield to brit I lost this vote,

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:50.000
<v Speaker 1>andrew your your petition is the one that I levied

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:50.800
<v Speaker 1>with the girls.

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I have lost the machetes. I am the lone soldier

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:56.839
<v Speaker 2>saying you were holding out.

0:55:56.920 --> 0:56:00.319
<v Speaker 7>I want to say you you stood on Democracy ten

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:04.719
<v Speaker 7>totally down and I part of me wants to be

0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:08.799
<v Speaker 7>able to just go and enjoy. But I am absolutely disappointed.

0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 7>And I'm disappointed in part because I grew up on

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.319
<v Speaker 7>TLC so A. I had some late summer plans with

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 7>my machety girls, right we were gonna go get down.

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 7>I couldn't go to the last concert with y'a because

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:21.160
<v Speaker 7>I had to work, so I was like, this is

0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 7>my makeup time.

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 6>I was trying to shake some mass.

0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 7>To creep like I had plants and then here you

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 7>go messing them up, right, So like, I'm disappointed personally,

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 7>but I'm also disappointed because growing up on TLC, they

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:36.800
<v Speaker 7>were cutting edge. They were the first folks talking about

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:41.240
<v Speaker 7>safe sex, when they were talking about affirming queer people,

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 7>they were talking about suicide and body image. Like you know,

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:48.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm thinking about waterfalls and all of the warnings that

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:50.880
<v Speaker 7>we tried to heed from them, right from not chasing

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:53.200
<v Speaker 7>the waterfalls to not dating no scrubs like they were

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:56.920
<v Speaker 7>supposed to be empowerment for the rest of us who

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:01.440
<v Speaker 7>Trump can't stand. So for this it's turn of face

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 7>to happen. Yeah, I'm disappointed. I feel betrayed.

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 5>Or did we just not know her?

0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.799
<v Speaker 7>Maybe we didn't know her and I maybe changed. I

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 7>do miss the time and we didn't know everything.

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 4>About it.

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Easier to enjoy the art.

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 7>But now that we do know when my mama always says, well,

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 7>you know better, you got to do better, and she's

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 7>around too many people who can help her know better

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:27.479
<v Speaker 7>to not be doing better. And I think that there's

0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 7>a there's a like there's a sense of betrayal a

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 7>because black women are like we the ninety two percent.

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 7>We still some of us are plenty confused about why

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:39.440
<v Speaker 7>the a percent even exists. But two, I'm not disappointed

0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 7>in Nick Cannon because Nick Cannon is who he's shown

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 7>himself to be for several years now. So like there's

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:48.440
<v Speaker 7>a different I have a different response to him.

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 6>That's right, Yeah, let's do it.

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Part of the Republican Party.

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 6>Uh huh, that's right.

0:57:56.760 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 12>A former Democrat, former liberal, A liberal Democrat.

0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 2>My whole life is that because.

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 18>The bag has got so intense and so heavy.

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:06.160
<v Speaker 6>That you had a whole nother you up there with

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 6>the elite.

0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Now not even close, not even close.

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 12>Democrats don't care about black people, and they don't care about.

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:15.919
<v Speaker 2>People, They don't care about people of color.

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:18.960
<v Speaker 12>And the Republicans do. And that's the misconcession.

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 6>And you know what, I agree with you.

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 4>One, people don't know that the Democrats is the party

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:24.880
<v Speaker 4>of the KKKA.

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 19>People don't know that the Republicans.

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Are the party that freed the slaves.

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean most of you and I have some

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:33.840
<v Speaker 4>conservative views.

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 6>You're just a little bit more outspoken about.

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:38.960
<v Speaker 4>It than I am. And I honestly I don't subscribe

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:39.800
<v Speaker 4>to neither party.

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 18>I'll rock with W. E. D.

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 4>The voice when he said there's no such thing as

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 4>two parties, as just one evil party with two different names.

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 12>So yeah, I mean, look, I listen, I'm not married

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:56.760
<v Speaker 12>to any party, right. I voted for Donald Trump because

0:58:56.800 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 12>he's we had two options and he was definitely, by

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:04.480
<v Speaker 12>far the better option for us, And as of now,

0:59:04.560 --> 0:59:09.400
<v Speaker 12>I agree with a lot of things that he's doing.

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 2>But what was Guess what?

0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:13.720
<v Speaker 12>If there's a time where I don't agree, I'll say

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 12>I don't agree.

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm got the Gulf of America.

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:20.480
<v Speaker 7>Now, the charging even like the club you charging on

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:24.160
<v Speaker 7>five million dollar bottle service.

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:25.120
<v Speaker 5>Feed to get into the country.

0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 12>Listen, but guess what?

0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 16>No?

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 5>Really quickly, really quick? Oh I'm sorry no, But I.

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 8>Mean, like like that type of ignorance, it breeds, It

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:41.439
<v Speaker 8>breeds two questions like one, where along the line do

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 8>you have to spend your time and treasure? Which none,

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:46.520
<v Speaker 8>none of the four of us have a great deal

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 8>of time. I tell people the most two valuable things

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:51.240
<v Speaker 8>I have in this world or relationships, because I feel

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:53.360
<v Speaker 8>like I can call them any of you three and

0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:55.480
<v Speaker 8>you probably won't pick up the phone. But at least

0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:56.960
<v Speaker 8>it makes me feel good to know that I can

0:59:57.000 --> 1:00:02.800
<v Speaker 8>call you right and that you know time and relationships

1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 8>are the most important thing. And so when do I

1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 8>have to sit down with someone like Nick Cannon and

1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:11.919
<v Speaker 8>educate him on what happened in nineteen forty eight when

1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:15.320
<v Speaker 8>Dixiecrats broke away from the Democratic Party because of our

1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:19.040
<v Speaker 8>stances on realignment, because of our stance on civil rights

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:22.360
<v Speaker 8>right and led by Strong Thurman, they believed in segregation

1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:25.280
<v Speaker 8>and states rights. They joined what is now the modern

1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:28.520
<v Speaker 8>day Republican Party, and you had a complete realignment. So

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 8>everything you said was utter bullshit. I'm sorry to curse

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 8>because I know your mama's listening to the show, Brittany.

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:33.000
<v Speaker 15>But.

1:00:34.480 --> 1:00:37.320
<v Speaker 6>And you know she loves you. She's like not Pakari.

1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Headphones.

1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:45.000
<v Speaker 7>The thing that irks me is that these free thinking

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:49.600
<v Speaker 7>folks are so disrespectful. Did they think that they know

1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:53.560
<v Speaker 7>betterrand mama's, they mama's, they daddy's, they uncles, all these

1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:56.600
<v Speaker 7>black folks who have also read books, who have also

1:00:56.640 --> 1:01:00.120
<v Speaker 7>studied history, who can also quote the great scholars of

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:03.800
<v Speaker 7>African American history, like the disrespect that it takes to

1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:06.760
<v Speaker 7>think that you have become enlightened to something that the

1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:09.840
<v Speaker 7>rest of us are ignorant to while we're all actively

1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:12.160
<v Speaker 7>being harmed by the people you're propping up, and you

1:01:12.240 --> 1:01:14.320
<v Speaker 7>just don't feel it as badly because you're famous and rich.

1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:17.960
<v Speaker 7>As wild to me, if somebody didn't get popped in

1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:19.040
<v Speaker 7>the mouth enough when they were.

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:21.400
<v Speaker 5>I believe I can I ask you guys a question

1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:22.600
<v Speaker 5>because the way you.

1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Do that, because you're going to have us down a

1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:25.960
<v Speaker 1>different land. Let me just say this about Nick Nick

1:01:26.040 --> 1:01:29.240
<v Speaker 1>is I consider Nick a friend.

1:01:30.120 --> 1:01:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I think that especially when he was at Howard, I found.

1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:34.560
<v Speaker 5>Him fault, no.

1:01:36.160 --> 1:01:36.320
<v Speaker 4>Job.

1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:39.720
<v Speaker 6>He didn't respond to he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Respond to my text, And I think for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>give people the benefit of you know, tell me why

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<v Speaker 1>I should vote, and you have that conversation. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation we've had actually on air on his podcast. What

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<v Speaker 1>I think what surprised me here is is not that

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't feel beholden to either parties. I think most

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<v Speaker 1>of us, most of our people, in some way don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel beholden to either party.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel very much.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as Bikari might have some disdain about this,

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<v Speaker 1>it is the lesser to evils on policy.

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<v Speaker 2>In a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>There are Democrats right now having conversations about whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not DEI was the right path for us to take.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to be honest about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that we should over romanticize the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between the black community and the Democratic Party. Nonetheless, we

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<v Speaker 1>ain't dummies. Were not about to be supporting the party

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<v Speaker 1>that's questioning the fourteenth Amendment. We're not about to go

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<v Speaker 1>We know how hard fought. If you watch what Fanny

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<v Speaker 1>Lieulhammer says about what they had to do to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>the beatings, the threat like Medgar Evers being killed in

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<v Speaker 1>his driveway, Like we know what had to happen to

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<v Speaker 1>force the Democratic Party towards righteousness.

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<v Speaker 2>That was our work. I mean, like that's the part

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<v Speaker 2>for me, Like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want you to be I'm so provocative that you

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<v Speaker 1>lose your footing on intellectualism and and being and facts

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<v Speaker 1>just facts. You ain't even got to be smart, just facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Just check your facts. And I think you know, even

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<v Speaker 1>when he cites w e B, I love.

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<v Speaker 2>W e B. But he was very practical and pragmatic.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see anywhere where he tells us not to

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<v Speaker 1>vote or don't participate in the system that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be making decisions about our lives and whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not we can thrive like that is not the message.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is, I will say this, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that whole rhetoric in that car ride was

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<v Speaker 1>as reckless as them too.

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<v Speaker 2>Niggas not even have a seatbelts on.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well at least with their no seat belts, their

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<v Speaker 4>lives is in their hands. The the the the other

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<v Speaker 4>stuff is they're using their influence to pedal uh. You

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<v Speaker 4>know people. The problem is that I keep hearing these

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<v Speaker 4>lines repeated. Everybody want to talk about Abraham Lincoln. Everybody

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk about what the Democrats in the sixties

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<v Speaker 4>data without can y'all just read the book to this conclusion?

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<v Speaker 4>Just just just complete more than that sentence. Just read

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit further so that you have an understanding

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<v Speaker 4>that's grounded in something that's real.

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<v Speaker 1>That's every way you say, you say you stopped that

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<v Speaker 1>chapter five, it's twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>You just stop that line too. Just get to the

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<v Speaker 4>end of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>It's easier to copy and paste the topics that process.

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<v Speaker 4>It's easy to do that, but it's cheap. It's also

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<v Speaker 4>low grow. I'm not acting for intellectualism. I really am not,

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<v Speaker 4>not at all, I'm just asking for self preservation. Just

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<v Speaker 4>think about you, your family, your condition, how you grew up.

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<v Speaker 4>But my reframe and I said this about fifty cent

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<v Speaker 4>when we were talking about well, why would he better

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<v Speaker 4>guess what these people and their proximity to power is

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<v Speaker 4>different than mine. Their resource either has diluted them into

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<v Speaker 4>or that it has demonstrated enough that they can get

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<v Speaker 4>them into some places where who they have to consider,

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<v Speaker 4>what they have to consider, what they need to be

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<v Speaker 4>standing up for, and what they need to be staying

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<v Speaker 4>silent on has shifted so to I don't want I

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<v Speaker 4>no longer believe skin folk is skin folks. I no

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<v Speaker 4>longer believe that at the end of the day we

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<v Speaker 4>will all have some fidelity to the fact that our

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<v Speaker 4>people struggled, did this, lost this, did this sacrifice in

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<v Speaker 4>this way first generation. This is now a common uniting frame.

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<v Speaker 4>They are now divorced from our historical and even recent

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<v Speaker 4>experience because their reality has changed, and quite frankly, they

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<v Speaker 4>can only be counted upon for what I would normally

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<v Speaker 4>ascribe to white folks by and large, which is that

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<v Speaker 4>they have the power and they are committed to keeping it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so these folks believe they got a shred and

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<v Speaker 4>they're committed to keeping it.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't believe in canceling people. I think cancelation is

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<v Speaker 8>the dumbest thing on earth. I do believe in consequence though.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that people, people, there are consequences for your actions.

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<v Speaker 17>But I don't.

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<v Speaker 8>Believe that we have the ability to like erase people

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<v Speaker 8>from our lives.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever. That's my own personal permanybody, but yeah, that's my Does.

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<v Speaker 8>It matter though, because I've always come come, and I

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<v Speaker 8>said this yesterday on our call, but I've always come

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<v Speaker 8>from the opinion that with greater talent comes more tolerance. Right,

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<v Speaker 8>you see, you see you see people who excel. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>you see people who excel at something, they say something,

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<v Speaker 8>they stay around the team. As soon as the person

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<v Speaker 8>who can play like that say something just like what

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<v Speaker 8>he says, they cut.

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<v Speaker 5>They on the next flight out Right.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not necessarily talking about Jada and I because he's

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<v Speaker 8>actually going through a mental crisis. So I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 8>I'm refraining from and I love Nell, so I don't

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<v Speaker 8>want to. I don't want to cast any aspersions on

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<v Speaker 8>what she's going in right now with with Jada, But

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<v Speaker 8>I will tell you that that I do believe whether

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<v Speaker 8>or not it's art, entertainment, sport, culture, when people, when

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<v Speaker 8>people have greater talent, we give them more runway. So

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<v Speaker 8>does it matter that these people have these platforms? Does

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<v Speaker 8>it matter that they are an extremely attractive trio? The

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<v Speaker 8>last I mean, Chili's fifty five years old. She was

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<v Speaker 8>gorgeous even at fifty five. You know, amber Rose is

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<v Speaker 8>a type to certain people. Nick Nick Cannon got thirty

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<v Speaker 8>seven beautiful baby mamas like, but does it matter? Does

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<v Speaker 8>it matter in culture? And as we're having these debates

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<v Speaker 8>one you know that does talent mean that we need

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<v Speaker 8>to treat these people any differently than we would treat others?

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<v Speaker 5>That's my question.

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<v Speaker 4>You know when they entered the lane that they probably

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<v Speaker 4>should stay out, I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>And shut up and dribble.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're not, if you don't want be held accountable

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<v Speaker 4>for waylaying your way into an area of which you

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<v Speaker 4>have no uh a reasonable set of knowledge, skill, perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>ideology practice meaning you don't vote, then do what you do,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you don't have to worry about folks coming

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<v Speaker 4>down on you for saying stupid ass shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think my question here is twofold one

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<v Speaker 1>is we're a little over an hour into the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he had one nose. You're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We have one set of issues we were planning to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about on the mini pod, but I'm actually gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask if we would consider expanding this conversation to the

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<v Speaker 1>mini pod, because we spend a lot of time focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on the accountability of what an entertainer might say. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I really want to do is try to turn

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<v Speaker 1>this into us like an internal reflection for ourselves because

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<v Speaker 1>we want to Some people want to cancel, some people

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<v Speaker 1>want to openly rebuke record a video talking about these folks.

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<v Speaker 1>But my question really is, like what passes do we

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<v Speaker 1>give ourselves for the brands that we continue to support

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<v Speaker 1>despite their endorsement whole throated, full throated endorsement of Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump or his policies or their donations. But we give

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves a pass? What is the barometer release?

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<v Speaker 16>Ye?

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<v Speaker 1>No, and I think it's a good one. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to take longer than what we should have

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, And so we.

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<v Speaker 2>Can invite keeping Guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk about Drew Ski another time. Drew Skill

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<v Speaker 1>come out with another great skit for us to run.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're going to do this. I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>end here.

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<v Speaker 1>In this conversation here so we can get to see

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<v Speaker 1>tas with this Malcolm X clip. Who you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>we study history in here, not just till chapter five

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<v Speaker 1>andrew all the way through Project twenty twenty five. He

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<v Speaker 1>just runs us back to something that we've seen before

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<v Speaker 1>and we're seeing right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's run it.

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<v Speaker 19>Medians, comics, trumpet players, baseball players. Show me in the

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<v Speaker 19>white community, where a comedian is a white leader. Show

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<v Speaker 19>me in the white community where our singer is a

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<v Speaker 19>white leader, or a dancer or a trumpet player is

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<v Speaker 19>a white leader. These aren't leaders. These are puppets and

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<v Speaker 19>clowns that have been set up over the white community

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<v Speaker 19>and are over the black community by the white unity,

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<v Speaker 19>and have been made celebrities and usually say exactly what

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<v Speaker 19>they know that the white man wants to hear.

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<v Speaker 4>You aren't gonna buy Sammy Davis Junior by inviting him

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<v Speaker 4>to the lighthouse, shouldn't buy him by doing something for America.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course at the end of this Malcolm X clip.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout there are quotes from w E B. D Boys,

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<v Speaker 1>the accurate quotes of w EB the Boys as well

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<v Speaker 1>as from Lanston Hughes, and there is an image of

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Davis Junior hugging Richard Nixon from the back very lovingly,

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<v Speaker 1>and so with that calls to action family.

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<v Speaker 4>His endorsement of Nixon left a scar on him that

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<v Speaker 4>he will wear it to his grave. Is what I

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<v Speaker 4>saw from Sammy Davis is that the quote I think

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<v Speaker 4>maybe he did. I just wanted to say, for those

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<v Speaker 4>who are on the listening side, oh say it aloud.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't read on them quotes that quick. Thank you Andrew, who.

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<v Speaker 18>Cares about truth in the last morning seen it.

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<v Speaker 8>I just think that we should during this time of chaos,

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<v Speaker 8>because that's what you did a great job Angela hosting today,

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<v Speaker 8>because it's it's kind of like drinking out of a

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<v Speaker 8>fire hose, and it's just so much that comes. So

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<v Speaker 8>I want people to practice more meditation. I want people

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<v Speaker 8>to take their shoes off and let their feet touch

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<v Speaker 8>the grass. I want people to go outside and like

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<v Speaker 8>sniff flowers and eat fresh fruits. I just think that

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<v Speaker 8>it's so much going on that we need to make

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<v Speaker 8>sure that we're mentally, physically and emotionally healthy to undertake

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<v Speaker 8>the trauma that is coming our way because Andrew likes

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<v Speaker 8>to say that the only way that we overcome this

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<v Speaker 8>is with people, and they are trying to beat us down,

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<v Speaker 8>and so we need to make sure that our people

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<v Speaker 8>are healthy enough to fight back.

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<v Speaker 2>What you got, hosts me, I'm away to the end.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was. I was talking about misspac Nick Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 6>Miss Pacietti over here.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, besides the call to action, to go vote on

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<v Speaker 7>the webbies so Undistracted can win one of these two webbies,

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<v Speaker 7>and to subscribe to Undistracted wherever you get your podcasts

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<v Speaker 7>and on YouTube, because we're coming to YouTube now for

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<v Speaker 7>this is for.

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<v Speaker 6>I just really want us.

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<v Speaker 7>To find community. I think what Bakari said is so important.

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<v Speaker 7>There is no way we're going to get through this

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<v Speaker 7>without each other, and we're turning to our roots and

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<v Speaker 7>the ways that we upheld, educated and supported one another,

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<v Speaker 7>that we restored when folks were out of order and

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<v Speaker 7>lovingly corrected, and the ways that we held one another

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<v Speaker 7>to account so that we could be there for community.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what's gonna take in this time. I think often

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<v Speaker 7>about that song that will read the saying so famously

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<v Speaker 7>but that we know get sung in churches, Black churches

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<v Speaker 7>all across the country about how I got over and

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<v Speaker 7>the only way we're gonna get over is by being

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<v Speaker 7>in touch with our creator and being in touch with

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<v Speaker 7>each other.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. I love both of those. I know

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<v Speaker 4>that No King's protests with this past week weekend for

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of folks, you know, shout outs to you

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<v Speaker 4>if you participated, Shout outs to you if you were

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<v Speaker 4>there in spirit but watching, and shout out to those

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<v Speaker 4>of us who just appreciated that there were people out

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<v Speaker 4>there demonstrating the largest protests in American history against an

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<v Speaker 4>American president. But something that caught my attention and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>extremely excited about is that the next No King's event,

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<v Speaker 4>May first, is intended to be a general strike. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>this has been called for by many on the left

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<v Speaker 4>from differently. I know the Mayor of Chicago had mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>it in in a speech several months back, that that's

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<v Speaker 4>one way to bring a country, and it's in a

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<v Speaker 4>situation to heal is to withhold not only your money

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<v Speaker 4>but your person, Meaning you don't if you're a teacher,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't show up, if you're a student, you show up.

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<v Speaker 4>If you are everyday citizen working for whomever. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>show up, you don't shop, you don't do anything, so

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<v Speaker 4>that the full effect of what it means to have

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<v Speaker 4>us extracted from a place begins to be felt. And

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<v Speaker 4>I just hope for those of us who have sat out,

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<v Speaker 4>have watched, have reclined, even in our own stress and

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<v Speaker 4>in our own misery, or just out of self preservation,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever that's been, that may first and following this No

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<v Speaker 4>King's movement toward a general strike, to make it as

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<v Speaker 4>impactful as seismic as we possibly can. Please please please

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<v Speaker 4>do your research, Google find out what it is. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>at some point between now and then we'll feature a

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<v Speaker 4>topic about what a general strike is, what it looks like,

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<v Speaker 4>what the history of it is. But for a president

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<v Speaker 4>who seems to be driven by very few things, but

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<v Speaker 4>one of those things is the market, this is a

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<v Speaker 4>way at which we get you in a single day's

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<v Speaker 4>effort illustrate our power. It's it's huge, and I really

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<v Speaker 4>hope that our community embraces this step and signs onto

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<v Speaker 4>the general strike.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love all your calls to action today. I mine

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<v Speaker 1>is simple. I want you to be in conversation and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully have friends who do not think like you. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's so important for us to have dimension, for

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<v Speaker 1>us not to categorize things as black or white shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Michael Jackson, but to really be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see the spectrum of gray because it is large. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with Bakari about cancelation. I believe in calling people in,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you you know, if you lie, you should

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<v Speaker 1>get called out too. I still think that there should

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<v Speaker 1>always be an opportunity for redemption, always an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>give grace as we've been given grace, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we it's really important that we talk to people

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<v Speaker 1>who will challenge our thinking, which sometimes can become flat

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<v Speaker 1>when it's not so. Shout out to everybody who pushes

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<v Speaker 1>their friends and loves on them. I will say that, Bakari,

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<v Speaker 1>we have some gold headphones with your name engraved on

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<v Speaker 1>them that should be sitting on.

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<v Speaker 2>Your front porch.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, please trump.

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<v Speaker 2>April Fool's Day, Ya dummy, the show's done. Welcome home, y'all.

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