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Speaker 1: This is episode one hundred and twenty five of Native
Speaker 1: lampod where we give you our breakdown of all.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Angela Raie, joined here with my co
Speaker 1: host Andrew Gillian and Baccari Sellers and we are joined
Speaker 1: again by a sister friend, again by a machete and
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Speaker 1: Brittany Pacneck Cunningham.
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Speaker 6: If you're nasty, if you nasty, period. I'm so glad
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Speaker 7: On a day when I get to participate in Bookari Center.
Speaker 6: So thank you for much.
Speaker 8: Truly, truly, I was reading It's hard out here every since,
Speaker 8: every since we won that Oscar a few weeks ago.
Speaker 5: It just ain't been. It ain't been the same we.
Speaker 3: Who is we?
Speaker 9: How?
Speaker 4: Michael Michael Bokard, Michael.
Speaker 1: Michael Bokar, Jordan, you know this is getting underline stocker ish,
Speaker 1: It really is the facts, Michael book Sorry, Jordan.
Speaker 2: We're sorry for this man.
Speaker 5: Anyway, he's gonna say, he's gonna say, I don't know
Speaker 5: this man.
Speaker 2: Yes he is. He gonna do you like he did
Speaker 2: for his high from his high school.
Speaker 5: Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 10: Uh.
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Speaker 4: Us, especially in Family Ratlers. We got a great alumni
Speaker 4: chapter up there. I hope to see all.
Speaker 3: In the building, y'all.
Speaker 8: Andrew, Happy Spellman nights. And I guess if you went
Speaker 8: to more House too, you can come through.
Speaker 4: Understand did you see you understand what you did?
Speaker 1: Go to spell them in a little bit too. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying absolutely, man, I bet, but car you don't
Speaker 1: have a little more enthusiastic for your alma mind.
Speaker 5: They be there.
Speaker 4: There's a difference that I went there and I graduated.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see I would like to see a
Speaker 1: fam you More House competition.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see if More rather show.
Speaker 4: Competition, we would not.
Speaker 5: That's not a competition, So who's gonna win?
Speaker 4: Well, that's not a question either, I mean, what are
Speaker 4: we doing?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 5: Not a real life people.
Speaker 8: Been thrown Yeah, they you know they apply and and
Speaker 8: struggle sometimes and go to family.
Speaker 1: If I'm sorry, maybe you're confused about what the competition is.
Speaker 1: I want to know whether more Fam You folks or
Speaker 1: more more House folks will be at our show.
Speaker 4: Never More House is based in I don't know the
Speaker 4: city any second place that they would have an impressive turnout,
Speaker 4: but I'm willing to put some money on it, and
Speaker 4: you will absolutely absolutely dominate the space.
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna only way that happens if Andrew buys
Speaker 8: all the tickets himself.
Speaker 4: I ain't buying.
Speaker 7: He said, it's going to be a cop party.
Speaker 2: Okay, well let's see that.
Speaker 4: Let's see there we gonna And of course, the only
Speaker 4: way more House is gonna be there and full effect
Speaker 4: is if what Oprah or what's what's the man Smith?
Speaker 4: Or who else underwriting y'all's education? I mean, he said,
Speaker 4: by the way, I.
Speaker 6: Think it's very good.
Speaker 2: It's okay. I'm gonna move on from this, but I
Speaker 2: do want this competition. So if y'all went to more House,
Speaker 2: show up.
Speaker 1: If y'all went to FAMI, you show up, Spellman Clark Atlanta, y'all.
Speaker 2: Show up to everybody.
Speaker 1: If there's there's any Seattle, you law school of Lumps,
Speaker 1: come to jub and Georgia.
Speaker 5: P W I for real, for really.
Speaker 2: It's a p B. I we're gonna do a roll
Speaker 2: call at the show.
Speaker 1: But now, y'all, because we got a lot of news,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it.
Speaker 3: Y'all.
Speaker 2: This news week has been crazier than that Duke yukon
Speaker 2: game ending. Let's roll that real quick by.
Speaker 4: The cut and run through the ball though better than
Speaker 4: the sky, get it into bridge and bashar ahead.
Speaker 5: Boozer that bought.
Speaker 11: The floor stolen bat Collins caravan two seconds tosses it up.
Speaker 12: We're poor.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: We talk about a Cinderella ending.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 1: That unfortunately is not how our news is going this
Speaker 1: week though, So for your situational awareness, we have a
Speaker 1: lot to get into. While the United Nations voted one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three to three, US, Argentina and Israel
Speaker 1: are the chumps that were confused and did not acknowledge
Speaker 1: that the transatlantic slave trade was the gravest crime against humanity.
Speaker 1: We still at some point need to discuss the fifty
Speaker 1: two abstentions, largely from European countries. But on another day,
Speaker 1: also a Trump appointed district court judge ruled against Evanston
Speaker 1: Illinois reparation program. Meanwhile, speaking of injustice, his former National
Speaker 1: Security Advisor, General Michael Flynn received a settlement from dj
Speaker 1: for wrongful prosecution despite being all up and through the
Speaker 1: Muller Report and convicted for lying to the FBI about
Speaker 1: his conversations with the Russian diplomat. He got a one
Speaker 1: point two million dollars settlement. Now we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: this is Briannam. The reason Christy lost her job is
Speaker 1: he compliment This man is the well I'm let me
Speaker 1: just get through it, y'all, y'all, let me still throw
Speaker 1: to it, let me talk, let me throw to it,
Speaker 1: then y'all jump in. So this man has been moonlighting
Speaker 1: virtually with sex workers. The selfies with balloon booths are
Speaker 1: the least of the issues here. He has been telling
Speaker 1: family business to folks he does not know. And can
Speaker 1: we say hypocrisy much? Let's look at what Christy has
Speaker 1: to say about these issues.
Speaker 12: Normally, in South Dakota only girls play girls sports.
Speaker 2: Why because of Governor Christy Nomes Leadershi.
Speaker 11: Christy Gnomes stood up for us, passing the toughest law
Speaker 11: in the country to defend female sports.
Speaker 4: So what happens with trans athletes?
Speaker 13: Well, if a trans athlete does make a sporting team
Speaker 13: and keeps a biological female from making the team. That
Speaker 13: biological female that missed out on the opportunity will get
Speaker 13: the chance to pursue litigation to play.
Speaker 11: There is a statistic circulating around right now that ninety
Speaker 11: percent of South Dakota's LGBTQ community is diagnosed with either
Speaker 11: anxiety or depression.
Speaker 5: Why do you think that is?
Speaker 12: I don't know.
Speaker 13: That makes me sad and we should figure it out.
Speaker 4: Is that a spoof for herself?
Speaker 1: No, that was really It turns out that she's actually
Speaker 1: a spoof now on this. I want to know what
Speaker 1: y'all think. This is a lot happening in the GNOAM household.
Speaker 1: Maybe it explains a little bit why she's dipping off
Speaker 1: with Corey Lewandowski allegedly, but I am curious to know
Speaker 1: what y'all's thoughts are.
Speaker 8: I do have one immediate concern about this that's been
Speaker 8: bothering me. And one of the pictures that I had
Speaker 8: to see of mister Brian though, the dog was in
Speaker 8: the back, and I believe that this is why. This
Speaker 8: is why I believe the dog got knocked off. I
Speaker 8: think the dog saw too much, the dogs, the dogs
Speaker 8: saw too much. She had to take it out. So
Speaker 8: I just want you all to know that nothing happens
Speaker 8: in a vacuum.
Speaker 4: Manager, Oh, I know it applies, yes, sir. My general
Speaker 4: thought is is I what people do in their private
Speaker 4: lives is their private business. The problem with all of
Speaker 4: this is this woman has made it a toward to
Speaker 4: forced cause to make the lives of lgb LGBT persons
Speaker 4: and very specifically transgender individuals that make their lives hell.
Speaker 4: And then wonders, actually partly I don't even believe her wondering,
Speaker 4: but wonders out loud, why it is that depression is
Speaker 4: so skyrocketted amongst the community that you targeted. It is
Speaker 4: not create It is not courageous. It's not bold to
Speaker 4: cast legislation, to pass statewide legislation and signing into law
Speaker 4: a law that affects what three people, two people in
Speaker 4: her state? Who does that? Who does that?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 4: I just, you know, I don't know the man. You know,
Speaker 4: God bless him for sitting through that hearing while you know,
Speaker 4: he had to hear all about the Corey of Lewandowski
Speaker 4: stuff while she was doing her testimony before Congress. But
Speaker 4: my guess is, you know, he probably kind of knows
Speaker 4: what the situation is she.
Speaker 2: Was telling the sex workers about it.
Speaker 4: I mean, all I'm saying is is I think they
Speaker 4: prepared each other for their respective centerfolds.
Speaker 7: I think that they both knew what was going on,
Speaker 7: and I think a conspiracy is a foot. Chall want
Speaker 7: to know what my conspiracy theory. I want to hear
Speaker 7: the theory allegedly. Okay, so here's my thing. They both
Speaker 7: knew what the other person was up to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 7: It ain't no way that you're the former director of
Speaker 7: Homeland Security and you don't know what's going on in
Speaker 7: your husband's text messages. Right, But this information got released
Speaker 7: right around trans Day of Visibility. And one of the
Speaker 7: main issues that trans people have with this country affirming
Speaker 7: their identity is that people always accuse them of being
Speaker 7: cross dressers when they're saying, no, this is my gender
Speaker 7: identity and expression. And so I feel like this got released.
Speaker 7: She knew it was coming, and she said, let me
Speaker 7: go ahead and put this out and continuously undermine the
Speaker 7: very community that I continue to rel Again, that's my
Speaker 7: conspiracy theory, and I'm very much sticking to it.
Speaker 4: I think one of his showns put it out.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but let me tell y' all.
Speaker 1: This this is only beginning of trans issues, not just
Speaker 1: in the country but in the world. International Olympics Committee
Speaker 1: banned trans women from competing. According to BBC, the IOC
Speaker 1: has not published the scientific research it based this decision upon,
Speaker 1: but has stated that at the elite level there is
Speaker 1: a ten to twelve percent male performance advantage in most
Speaker 1: running and swimming events, and that rises to twenty percent
Speaker 1: in most throwing and jumping disciplines and one hundred percent
Speaker 1: in sports such as boxing that involves explosive power. Again,
Speaker 1: they said this is their scientific research that they base
Speaker 1: their decision upon. The problem with their decision is this
Speaker 1: band doesn't just keep trans women out of sports. Let's
Speaker 1: hear from Olympic medalist caster Samenya herself.
Speaker 3: Of course, you always know it's nonsense.
Speaker 14: For me, like I said, I've mentioned that it's about,
Speaker 14: you know, women integrity.
Speaker 3: For you, as a woman, why will you be tested
Speaker 3: to prove that you fit?
Speaker 14: You know, It's like now we need to prove that
Speaker 14: we are worthy as women to take part in sports,
Speaker 14: not the disrespectful women, but for anyone.
Speaker 3: Everyone has their own opinion.
Speaker 14: But for me personally, say, why will you allow women
Speaker 14: to take part in sports if you're going to question them.
Speaker 1: And I'm surprised here Donald Trump is taking credit for
Speaker 1: the decision of the IOC. Last February, he signed an
Speaker 1: executive order that prevents transgender women from competing in female
Speaker 1: categories of sports here in the United States. He stated
Speaker 1: in addition that he would deny visas for any transgender
Speaker 1: Olympic athletes trying to visit the United States to compete.
Speaker 2: In the games in Los Angeles. What are you all thoughts?
Speaker 8: So, my fundamental issue with this is that politically, practically
Speaker 8: and legally speaking, I think it's more of a red
Speaker 8: hearing than anything else. I think it's a cultural war
Speaker 8: that Republicans like to fight. There are more bills filed
Speaker 8: in state legislatures across the country banning trans athletes from
Speaker 8: playing in sport. Then there are trans athletes playing in sport, right,
Speaker 8: So it's meant to get you riled up. And Donald
Speaker 8: Trump actually ran probably the most divisive, evil ingenious ad
Speaker 8: we've ever seen, well recent and recent political history, when
Speaker 8: he said, Kamala Harris is for they them, I'm for you.
Speaker 8: That ad pierced through and affected the conversation. It hit
Speaker 8: a message that they were honing in on, that they
Speaker 8: were hammering on. And what I don't see is Democrats
Speaker 8: fighting back on grounds they can win on. For example,
Speaker 8: all right, you want to ban trans athletes, why don't
Speaker 8: you make sure that you increase budgets for mental health
Speaker 8: young people who are struggling. Because although I don't see
Speaker 8: an increase in trans athletes playing sport, I do see
Speaker 8: the number of young people committing suicide rising daily. And
Speaker 8: no one's having that conversation. And so let's get in
Speaker 8: a room and hash this out, I think. But Democrats
Speaker 8: have to reframe the argument because right now they're losing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll pick up where you where you ended, because
Speaker 4: I think that's that's that's where that's the crux for me,
Speaker 4: which is, while you are one thousand percent correct around
Speaker 4: the advertising that was done, the red herring that Republicans flow,
Speaker 4: we still have to acknowledge that this shit is having
Speaker 4: impact in a diletarious effect on the community itself. Those
Speaker 4: you know, the parents. I mean, I think about the
Speaker 4: ways I agonize around. I would throw myself in harm's
Speaker 4: way for any one of my children any day of
Speaker 4: the week, multiple times, so long as I had non
Speaker 4: lives to live, right, think about the agony parents must
Speaker 4: go through when they're saying, look, I don't know about
Speaker 4: everybody else, but I know about my child. And when
Speaker 4: you do something that is going to put my child
Speaker 4: in harm's way, not your ability for your story to
Speaker 4: compete and compete with other athletes and whatever, but the
Speaker 4: life of my child, it just takes us to a
Speaker 4: whole you know, it takes us to a whole other level.
Speaker 4: And I'll just say again, whether Democrats get it on
Speaker 4: this or Republicans get it on this, we all need
Speaker 4: to get it on this, which is, there's nothing bold
Speaker 4: or courageous about attacking the smallest minuscule set of a
Speaker 4: population that exists in our society. Wh will we be
Speaker 4: creating countless laws going after the extreme minority of people
Speaker 4: in our community. I just think it is hateful and
Speaker 4: it's terribly harmful for the people that we're that they're targeting.
Speaker 7: I mean, these folks have always shown that their favorite
Speaker 7: target practice is the most vulnerable and the most marginalized, right,
Speaker 7: and that's exactly what we're dealing with here. But in
Speaker 7: addition to everything that's been said, I think it's important
Speaker 7: to note that so many black queer women who are organizers'
Speaker 7: activist writers have been reminding us that black women were
Speaker 7: never included in the definition of femininity in the West
Speaker 7: in the first place. So so much of the transphobia
Speaker 7: that goes against our trans siblings also comes against us.
Speaker 7: And it's exactly the reason why what Caster said to
Speaker 7: the African head of the IOC matters so much. That
Speaker 7: these are conversations that have to do with us. I mean,
Speaker 7: whenever somebody wants to say something about a black woman,
Speaker 7: what do they go for? Right, They go for our looks.
Speaker 7: They say we're too masculine, they say we're all of
Speaker 7: these things. They accuse former first lifelies of being trans,
Speaker 7: and I know we're going to talk about that in
Speaker 7: a little bit. These attacks have to do with us too,
Speaker 7: and when they practice it on the most marginalized, it's
Speaker 7: coming for us next.
Speaker 2: Well, and let's deal with this.
Speaker 1: Speaking of executive orders that are instigating fights where there
Speaker 1: is no battle, Donald Trump has signed two within the
Speaker 1: last seven days on voting, but he feels like he
Speaker 1: has an exception.
Speaker 2: Let's roll that clip.
Speaker 15: Tell me about mail in ballots going You may not
Speaker 15: use the mail in ballot. You probably said, yeah, I did,
Speaker 15: you know what, Because I'm President of the United States,
Speaker 15: and because of the fact that I'm President of the
Speaker 15: United States, I did a mail in ballot for elections
Speaker 15: that took place in Florida because I felt I should
Speaker 15: be here instead of being in the beautiful sunshine taking the.
Speaker 4: Last few weekends.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 15: And yeah, and I decided that I was going to
Speaker 15: vote by mail in ballot because I couldn't be there
Speaker 15: because I had a lot of different things. But you know,
Speaker 15: we have exceptions for mail in ballots. You do know that, right,
Speaker 15: So if you're away, we have an exception. If you're
Speaker 15: in the military, we have an exception. If you're in
Speaker 15: a business trip, we have an exception. If you're disabled,
Speaker 15: we have an exception. And if you're ill, if you're
Speaker 15: not feeling good. So I was away mostly in Washington,
Speaker 15: d C. So I used the mail and bell. But
Speaker 15: I appreciate the question because I know, I know it
Speaker 15: was so well man.
Speaker 4: You know here before the word who raised the questions there?
Speaker 4: Her brother was my intern for a number of years.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that shot.
Speaker 1: Elizabeth. Yeah, Land, shout out to Elizabeth. Okay, we're not
Speaker 1: done on this topic just yet. In addition to this,
Speaker 1: you all are clear about this, but this is Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's way around the Save Act in the event that
Speaker 1: it does not pass, and so he also wants to
Speaker 1: develop a nationalist completely traveling states rights. We're going to
Speaker 1: hear from Maya Wiley, who runs the Leadership Conference on
Speaker 1: Civil and Human Rights.
Speaker 2: It's for the clip.
Speaker 16: I'm Maya Wiley, President and CEO of the Leadership Conference
Speaker 16: on Civil and Human Rights. And here's what we need
Speaker 16: to understand. Ever since coming into office, Donald Trump has
Speaker 16: been trying to make it harder for voters to vote.
Speaker 16: One of the things he has gone after is mail
Speaker 16: in voting. Many states allow it, and don't forget that's
Speaker 16: what an absentee ballot is. A mail in ballot. About
Speaker 16: a third of Americans vote by mail. And here's the thing.
Speaker 16: It really helps us black Americans to be able to vote.
Speaker 16: So he just signed an executive order where he does
Speaker 16: not have the power unilaterally by himself with a pen,
Speaker 16: to change how federal election laws work. But nonetheless, he
Speaker 16: signed an executive order that essentially says, hey, Department of
Speaker 16: Homeland Security, I want you to create a list and
Speaker 16: you tell us whose citizens are, even though that's not
Speaker 16: your job. You know what the Department of Homeland Security does.
Speaker 16: It decides who's over state of visa. It decides who
Speaker 16: it gave permission to come to the country or who
Speaker 16: does not have permission to be in the country. That
Speaker 16: is not the same thing is saying who is born here. Now, yes,
Speaker 16: it will include social Security data as well, but just
Speaker 16: know this. The Department of Homeland Security is the same
Speaker 16: department that Donald Trump and others have been insinuating should
Speaker 16: show up at our pole sites, should have something to
Speaker 16: do with our elections. That's wrong, but it's also an
Speaker 16: effort to make it harder for voters to do what
Speaker 16: States who have the power to decide who can vote
Speaker 16: how they can tell people to transmit their votes. And
Speaker 16: Donald Trump as president does not control the United States
Speaker 16: Postal Service because he's essentially saying the United States Postal
Speaker 16: Service should be basically able to look at the list
Speaker 16: it gets from the Department of Homeland Security and decide
Speaker 16: not to transfer a ballot even after a state has
Speaker 16: said please send this. So that's wrong and we won't
Speaker 16: stand for it, and nor will the courts. It's unconstitutional.
Speaker 4: Just know this.
Speaker 2: We have power.
Speaker 16: Our power is real, so vote.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much Tamayah for sending in that video
Speaker 1: to break all of that down. I will tell y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: President's president is still a loser, and that is evidenced
Speaker 1: by all of the rulings against him this week. One time,
Speaker 1: for the first Amendment of federal judge ruled Trump's executive
Speaker 1: order prohibiting funding for PBS and NPR was unconstitutional. In
Speaker 1: another case that one hundred and twenty year old East
Speaker 1: Wing has been demolished by Trump for a four hundred
Speaker 1: million dollar renovation, a judge told him to hold his
Speaker 1: horses because he is a steward, not the owner of
Speaker 1: the White House, and that the project must stop until
Speaker 1: quote Congress authorizes its completion. And a federal judge in
Speaker 1: Boston US District Court, Judge Allison Burrows blocked the Trump
Speaker 1: administration's attempt to end timperate parole status under the Biden
Speaker 1: era CBP one policy. That policy impacts more than nine
Speaker 1: hundred thousand migrant y'all, and speaking of folk, Trump thinks
Speaker 1: he has no right to be here. Birthright citizenship is
Speaker 1: before the Supreme Court today. If y'all don't have anything
Speaker 1: on those other three cases. We can jump into the
Speaker 1: birthright citizenship case.
Speaker 4: Well before we get the birthright. And I appreciate you
Speaker 4: going through that, Angela, because he has been taking body blows.
Speaker 4: The other thing I didn't see mentioned there, but it
Speaker 4: wasn't I guess directly against Trump is the funding for NPR,
Speaker 4: which is vital for I didn't say that. That's why
Speaker 4: I said I missed. I don't always, you know, be tuned.
Speaker 2: I was going through quick ag.
Speaker 4: We had a lot of yeah. But but I will
Speaker 4: say back on the first case, I just wanted to
Speaker 4: underscore that what Trump has instructed the US Postal Service
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 5: Is when.
Speaker 4: Ballots are put in the mailboxes to be returned from
Speaker 4: my home address to go back to the supervisor of elections.
Speaker 4: That that is when the federal government, the Postal Service,
Speaker 4: is supposed to intervene to take that ballot and determine
Speaker 4: run my name through their database to determine whether or
Speaker 4: not they will deliver that ballot to my supervisor of elections. Now,
Speaker 4: for some of y'all, that may make sense for me,
Speaker 4: it makes absolutely none. Obviously, the laws against them. It
Speaker 4: is not how it's supposed to work. But let me
Speaker 4: tell you, before that ballot ever shows up at your
Speaker 4: home or my home, your supervisor of elections has already
Speaker 4: run your name and determined that you're eligible for a ballot.
Speaker 4: So if folks are curious of whether or not just
Speaker 4: mysterious ballots are being mailed out to anybody who asks
Speaker 4: for one, that's not how it works. He is creating
Speaker 4: a new barrier to prevent our votes from being legally
Speaker 4: cast and counted contrary to what the state law is.
Speaker 4: I just I want people to really get the offense.
Speaker 4: Here is a federal government inserting itself because of its
Speaker 4: delivery of mail services. To then decide that they're just
Speaker 4: going to take on a whole another power, run my
Speaker 4: name through a database, and decide to dispose of my
Speaker 4: vote or deliver it. That's crazy.
Speaker 5: I look at it from a different angle a little bit.
Speaker 8: I think the judicial independence is something that we really
Speaker 8: haven't taken seriously as a country up until recently. I mean,
Speaker 8: I go back to Rama Manuel when he was chief
Speaker 8: of staff of Barack Obama talking about the lack of
Speaker 8: import they're putting on justices. Because he had to pass
Speaker 8: the Affordable care act. I think about the fact that
Speaker 8: we had people out here talking about the Hillary Clinton
Speaker 8: and Donald Trump were the lesser of two evils when
Speaker 8: you had three Supreme Court justices up. And it's just
Speaker 8: something that we haven't really spoken to voters about, both
Speaker 8: locally and on a state level and the federal judiciary,
Speaker 8: because when you see rulings like this, it usually comes
Speaker 8: from extremely smart, independent jurists who understand the law and
Speaker 8: who can apply the law to these draconian measures that
Speaker 8: the administration is trying to put forward. So, I mean,
Speaker 8: I know every week I get on here and talk
Speaker 8: about elections. I think last week we talked about the
Speaker 8: Secretary of State and for some people that may be mundane,
Speaker 8: but man, focus on your magistrates all the way up.
Speaker 5: I mean we are seeing the import of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think what you're saying is another reminder of why
Speaker 7: elections matter and is one of those dots people don't connect,
Speaker 7: right that the elected folks are who appoint the judges.
Speaker 7: The other reason why election elections matter so much that's
Speaker 7: being demonstrated here, though, is that as important as these
Speaker 7: rulings are, he's already done the damage. The Corporation for
Speaker 7: Public broadcasting is already shuttered because the funding got removed.
Speaker 7: The East Wing is already destroyed and all of its
Speaker 7: history along with it. Right, So when you elect people
Speaker 7: who wipe their flabby behinds with the constitution, the litigation
Speaker 7: is important, but it can only do so much if
Speaker 7: we put them in power in the first place.
Speaker 1: Well, and that is true, but thank God for the
Speaker 1: courts that we do have with that with good sense,
Speaker 1: because they are stopping the activity that have already that's
Speaker 1: already been taken CPS, I mean, I'm n PR and PBS.
Speaker 1: That is unconstitutional and that is a protection of the
Speaker 1: First Amendment. It would have been nice if it would
Speaker 1: have stopped before all of the bleeding. But I think
Speaker 1: at this point we got to get we can't.
Speaker 2: But car are you?
Speaker 7: I mean, damn, I'm thirsty too, but I don't want
Speaker 7: to pop it since.
Speaker 6: I'm a guess.
Speaker 2: Anyway, y'all, So.
Speaker 8: Y'all think just stay like this man. You gotta you
Speaker 8: gotta mind your business and drink your water.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows speaking of coke cans, Let's turn our attention
Speaker 1: to uh the Supreme Court case Claire Thomas. Let's start
Speaker 1: with him. You know, every now and then, not every
Speaker 1: now and then. Anyway, today Claire Thomas asked this question
Speaker 1: bout Riscott, and that's not the question we have. But
Speaker 1: I do want to roll the first Claire's Thomas question
Speaker 1: we have. I just want to acknowledge Donald Trump, who
Speaker 1: has been in the room for or arguments we're saying today.
Speaker 1: But it's going to ar tomorrow obviously, but this is
Speaker 1: still fresh, so we don't have it all together. I
Speaker 1: do want to roll this Claire's Thomas question.
Speaker 17: Generally, you're getting a lot of questions about immigration, and
Speaker 17: they harken back, of course to the citizenship which is
Speaker 17: defined in or set out in the fourteenth Amendment. How
Speaker 17: much of the debates around the fourteenth Amendment had anything
Speaker 17: to do with immigration.
Speaker 11: I think that the principal focus of those debates it
Speaker 11: has to do it really not with immigrants, but with
Speaker 11: the Indian tribes. I mean, obviously, the main goal, that
Speaker 11: one pervading purpose of this court set in the slaughterhouse cases,
Speaker 11: was to establish the citizenship of the free slaves and
Speaker 11: their children. But they were very concerned about the problem
Speaker 11: of something that they all accept it as a given,
Speaker 11: which is that the children of tribal Indians are not
Speaker 11: within the rule of birthright citizenship. So I think that's
Speaker 11: what they focused and we draw an analogy to that
Speaker 11: too the issue of temporary sojourners. But there are mentions
Speaker 11: of temporary sojourny multiple places in the congressional debates, and
Speaker 11: all of those quotes go in our direction.
Speaker 2: So that's the first one.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all want to get into another
Speaker 1: part of the orals here, but what is I think
Speaker 1: really fascinating. The lead attorney on our side of the
Speaker 1: issue is a child of immigrants arguing birthright citizenship. And
Speaker 1: you see the blatant hypocrisy not only of the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: the Trump administration, and probably some of these justices when
Speaker 1: this ruling will eventually come out or on this particular issue,
Speaker 1: some of them being children of immigrants themselves.
Speaker 2: But I don't know I.
Speaker 4: Want to do if I could just back up a
Speaker 4: second to mention because I know we've all been inisconsd
Speaker 4: in this case, as we've heard oral arguments today before
Speaker 4: the you know, the High Court. But but what's that
Speaker 4: question here is that the President has signed an executive
Speaker 4: order several months back that basically says that redefines the
Speaker 4: fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which established, just for all
Speaker 4: of our knowledge, that an individual born here in the
Speaker 4: United States is considered a citizen of the United States
Speaker 4: of America, regardless of where their parents originated. And there
Speaker 4: are a few exceptions to that rule, usually having to
Speaker 4: deal with diplomats, foreign diplomats and high ministers to a
Speaker 4: respective country, and in the in the case of foreign occupation,
Speaker 4: that the law doesn't apply to those individuals. Those individuals,
Speaker 4: but they're basically for exceptions to to the law. And
Speaker 4: it really even though you heard the mention of Dred
Speaker 4: Scott uh the fourteenth Amendments, how it came into formation
Speaker 4: in the first place in eighteen sixty eight. It was
Speaker 4: part of what we now know as the sort of
Speaker 4: reconstruction clauses of the Constitution, and those were the thirteenth, fourteenth,
Speaker 4: and fifteenth Amendment, giving black folks in this country access
Speaker 4: to the constitutional guarantees that we were denied at the
Speaker 4: forming of this country. But it dates back to the
Speaker 4: early sixteen hundreds, as part of Calvin's case in Great
Speaker 4: Britain that established that anyone born under the jurisdiction of
Speaker 4: the king had to be basically obedient and as a
Speaker 4: subject of the king, regardless again of what their parents
Speaker 4: did or where they came from. So, although it's been
Speaker 4: the law of the land for one hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: years coming into formation, since the Fourteenth Amendment, it has
Speaker 4: been the practice of the United States, mostly for white men,
Speaker 4: but the practice of the United States since before the
Speaker 4: founding of the United States of America. So this man
Speaker 4: has the audacity to challenge this constitutional amendment that basically
Speaker 4: black people are responsible for it having come into formation
Speaker 4: in the first place. And I just think we are
Speaker 4: to as a community, really understand the import of this
Speaker 4: debate today, this week, and in the weeks ahead as
Speaker 4: the Supreme Court sort of deals with this. I think
Speaker 4: a lot of people are assuming that it's going to
Speaker 4: go one way. But I thought the same thing about
Speaker 4: other settled pieces of law, that the court, this court,
Speaker 4: this conservative court, would go one way, and it ended
Speaker 4: up going a different one. So let's just pay attention
Speaker 4: to what's happening here. The Fourteenth Amendment exists because of us,
Speaker 4: but as affirmed for in future cases, it applies to
Speaker 4: everybody and anybody born here in the United States. On
Speaker 4: our soil.
Speaker 2: And that's just the party. I do think.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you back in into context here, Andrew is important.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, moments after leaving the oral arguments, went to
Speaker 1: Truth Social Number. By the way, this is the only
Speaker 1: time in history documented that sitting president attended oral arguments,
Speaker 1: so that's also a major We can argue that he
Speaker 1: was there to try to intimidate the justices in some way,
Speaker 1: but he posted on true Social shortly after leaving, we
Speaker 1: are the only country in the world stupid enough to
Speaker 1: allow birthright citizenship. He's wrong. Thirty other countries at least
Speaker 1: also have birthright citizenship. The other piece that I think
Speaker 1: is really important here, and I actually want to at
Speaker 1: least commend John Roberts for this one statement he made.
Speaker 1: The Solicitor General General was arguing that even though the
Speaker 1: Framers didn't have in mind, which was John Roberts question,
Speaker 1: that this is the type of situation that would come
Speaker 1: up people coming here, you know, falling in love with
Speaker 1: someone who was already a citizen here and having a child.
Speaker 1: How do you determine whose parent you know is responsible
Speaker 1: for the ab and where their citizenship lay. And the
Speaker 1: Solicitor General sowers says, we're in a new world now,
Speaker 1: and John Roberts, Chief Justice John Roberts says, back, it's
Speaker 1: a new world, but it's the same constitution. And so
Speaker 1: I think there are these interesting pockets where you see
Speaker 1: their humanity. But to Andrew's point, we are literally one
Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision away from the dismantling and the gutting
Speaker 1: and the wrongful interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment, of any
Speaker 1: amendment in any single case, in any single case, they
Speaker 1: could decide not to rely on President. They could they
Speaker 1: could decide to rely on Court president case President that
Speaker 1: is not in our favor, right like it ain't always been.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court decision we're talking about dread Scott. Dread
Speaker 1: Scott is not what established birthright citizenship. It was the
Speaker 1: case that broke dread Scott's hard enough to cause his
Speaker 1: death because they did not see him as a citizen,
Speaker 1: as a human, because he was an enslaved person right property.
Speaker 2: That's right, Chattle.
Speaker 8: Can I ask one question though, one of the things,
Speaker 8: because I think both of you, and Andrew, you highlighted
Speaker 8: the importance Angela and Andrew gave us the history. But
Speaker 8: one of the questions we haven't answered for listeners, and
Speaker 8: I want to see what you three think and and
Speaker 8: kind of just trim it down is why, you know, what,
Speaker 8: why are they going through this?
Speaker 5: Why are they going through this exercise practically?
Speaker 4: Like why?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to I want bread to be
Speaker 2: able to wait into.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm a lawyer, but I have been black
Speaker 7: my whole life.
Speaker 4: I mean growth up because on the table, I'm.
Speaker 7: From Saint Louis, which means every the show me state period,
Speaker 7: y'all know, I put on for Saint Louis. And every
Speaker 7: MLK day we marched from Pala Symphony Hall to the
Speaker 7: old Courthouse in downtown Saint Louis where Dread and Herriot
Speaker 7: Scott stood before or the Missouri State Supreme Court. They
Speaker 7: were also members of the church that my father later passored,
Speaker 7: the second oldest church founded by free and enslaved black
Speaker 7: people in the state of Missouri. And thinking about that history,
Speaker 7: what is clear to me is that what they told
Speaker 7: Dread and Hariet about what they thought about their.
Speaker 6: Dignity and humanity remains true.
Speaker 7: So they didn't recognize their humanity and their dignity, then
Speaker 7: they don't. These folks don't have any intent on recognizing
Speaker 7: our humanity or dignity now, and just because they're using
Speaker 7: us as the cudgel to try to make their argument
Speaker 7: doesn't mean that we're safe. And I think it's really
Speaker 7: really important that those of us who can trace our
Speaker 7: families back four and five generations on this land don't
Speaker 7: get comfortable and think that this thing can apply to us,
Speaker 7: because it absolutely can. I just think that they want
Speaker 7: the whole thing to themselves. That's just what I think
Speaker 7: it comes down to.
Speaker 1: I think brit is right. I do want to just
Speaker 1: if I can drop in another clip. We have a
Speaker 1: dissenter in chief in this Spreme Court. Her name is
Speaker 1: Katanji Brown Jackson, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, and today she
Speaker 1: demonstrates I think a great in her questioning Bikari an
Speaker 1: answer suggested answer to your why, let's row that.
Speaker 10: Did I understand you to say that domicile is going
Speaker 10: to be eventually or is controlled by Congress? Who is domiciled?
Speaker 10: I'm struggling to figure out who is domiciled in your argument.
Speaker 11: The domiciliaries are people who are lawfully present and have
Speaker 11: an intent to remain permanently. So that's the kind of
Speaker 11: black letter understanding of domicile. Now, Congress can't dictate that
Speaker 11: certain classes of people legal entrance and so forth cannot
Speaker 11: lawfully lack of legal capacity to form a legally binding doctor.
Speaker 6: Is that so?
Speaker 10: Then doesn't it make the domicile for the purpose of
Speaker 10: the Fourteenth Amendment turned then ultimately on Congress's will in
Speaker 10: a way that the Framers did not intend. I mean,
Speaker 10: my understanding was the Framers put this citizenship clause into
Speaker 10: the Constitution to prevent future Congresses from being able to
Speaker 10: affect citizenship in this way.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 11: Very briefly, no, I don't think so, because it is
Speaker 11: up to the alien whether or not they want to
Speaker 11: be domiciled here. Now there may be.
Speaker 10: Complect because said Congress can make determinations as to who
Speaker 10: counts as being domiciled here. So that's true, Then it
Speaker 10: ultimately would impact in your theory whether or not this
Speaker 10: person can claim that they have citizenship for Fourteenth Amendment
Speaker 10: purposes based on Congress's determination. And I just thought that's
Speaker 10: what the fourteenth Amendment was trying to get away from.
Speaker 11: Yes, very briefly, I just point you to the discussion
Speaker 11: in Professor Worman's and make us brief where he talks
Speaker 11: about this is not a new problem, going back even
Speaker 11: to the British Common Law, there's a situation of people
Speaker 11: who lack a safe conduct and are passing through the
Speaker 11: King's domains without permission, and he says, the best reading
Speaker 11: of the common laws, they are not in the protection
Speaker 11: of the King, and they're not covered by their royal
Speaker 11: birthright citizenship.
Speaker 4: I sink through. He's been real colorful with the language there.
Speaker 4: But I will tell you, first of all, I'll say
Speaker 4: Justice Jackson and I would add to that Justice Soto
Speaker 4: Mayor both have a way of making the High Court
Speaker 4: accessible in their questions and the way in which they
Speaker 4: summarize their questions. As a non lawyer, I feel like
Speaker 4: I can access what it is that they're trying to
Speaker 4: say and what the crux of the argument is about.
Speaker 4: To Bakari's question, because I think it really it's a
Speaker 4: great one, and it's one that we all ought to consider,
Speaker 4: Like why now, why after terms, before the founding of
Speaker 4: this nation, does it decide under Trump and his stooges
Speaker 4: to redefine who a US citizen is. And although a
Speaker 4: lot of us may think that this thing is powered
Speaker 4: by the immigration of Latin Americans. I think into the US,
Speaker 4: that's who they like to use as today's sort of boogeyman.
Speaker 4: I think it has everything to do with what surfaces
Speaker 4: in Donald Trump's voice. Every time he has the opportunity
Speaker 4: to talk about the kinds of people he believes ought
Speaker 4: to be in the United States, he talks about people
Speaker 4: from shithole countries, places that we don't want.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: He talks about South America at the whole continent of Africa.
Speaker 4: To forgive him, he doesn't know the demographic diversity that
Speaker 4: exists on the continent, but but whatever be that as
Speaker 4: it may. And then when he talks about Europe, he
Speaker 4: talks about Europe you losing its authenticity, its identity because
Speaker 4: of the immigration of brown people. So lets none of
Speaker 4: us get it confused that what this thing is about
Speaker 4: isn't just about Latin American immigration in this country. They
Speaker 4: wish to reverse the wheels of immigrants, of of of
Speaker 4: the census of this country going forward. They know that
Speaker 4: white folks have a lower birth rate than any other group.
Speaker 4: They know that the browning of America is real, that
Speaker 4: is here, and that it will increase, And so to
Speaker 4: preserve their power they believe they need a more eurocentric
Speaker 4: United States of America. This is this is based in
Speaker 4: racism as the origination here, as was the Fourteenth Amendment
Speaker 4: which saved us from it, as was the Southern State
Speaker 4: then implementing their own discriminatory laws after the Fourteenth Amendment
Speaker 4: to keep US from accessing power. So they're not talking
Speaker 4: about black people. They're not name checking us right now
Speaker 4: as the problem. They're using us and escapegoading us as
Speaker 4: part of the solution through the Fourteenth Amendment on this argument.
Speaker 4: But don't get it twisted. They see US as big
Speaker 4: a threat as they see Latin American immigration. They don't
Speaker 4: want us counted in the census, and they don't want
Speaker 4: us being the majority. Ultimately, I think this is about
Speaker 4: what you hear Donald Trump say, which is he wants
Speaker 4: a wider America and he wants an America that brings
Speaker 4: people in from European country who are also just European
Speaker 4: and Dutch.
Speaker 6: People from South Africa.
Speaker 4: Don't forget, they gone back.
Speaker 5: They don't even like it here. They all said they
Speaker 5: going back.
Speaker 2: They said this is a way.
Speaker 5: They said, we want to be in the ghetto.
Speaker 8: I think that you know, just Summarily, it's two things,
Speaker 8: and I think Andrew hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's about power, and it's about fear.
Speaker 8: It's the fear of losing what they believe to be theirs,
Speaker 8: the browning of America, this inability to understand Angela rise
Speaker 8: phrase that this joint for free right and uh not
Speaker 8: acknowledging that the equity of of of what diversity has
Speaker 8: put into this country, not recognizing those contributions. And I
Speaker 8: think lastly, it's about just not valuing diversity. You know,
Speaker 8: that power, that that power talking point is so real
Speaker 8: because it comes down to elections. They see them so
Speaker 8: of having a better opportunity winning an election, maintaining power
Speaker 8: with the fewer black and brown folk in this country, period, point.
Speaker 4: Blank, fullstop.
Speaker 8: And I honestly don't think that Donald Trump. I find
Speaker 8: him to be a useful idiot for those of it,
Speaker 8: those individuals who are around him, because I think that
Speaker 8: we don't We talk about it a lot, but the
Speaker 8: stephen Millers and the Bannons of the world are the
Speaker 8: ones who are orchestrating this.
Speaker 4: And then the.
Speaker 8: Sad part is the the Cassidys and the Cottons of
Speaker 8: the world, the Hallys of the world, the Dvanceas of
Speaker 8: the world, don't have the testicular fortitude to be able
Speaker 8: to rise up to this case, this occasion and actually
Speaker 8: recognize what America is and or her value.
Speaker 5: So I think power and I think fear are witsdriving this.
Speaker 7: That mean fear is a tool for power though, right,
Speaker 7: fear is how you maintain power. I say this all
Speaker 7: the time, and I teach on this every single conflict
Speaker 7: in the West, in America, in particular, in white dominant culture,
Speaker 7: comes down to the desire to hoard power. White dominant
Speaker 7: culture teaches us that power is a pie and there
Speaker 7: are only so many slices to go around. The idea
Speaker 7: that we are all born with innate power and it
Speaker 7: is therefore abundant, and we can share it and all
Speaker 7: be better when we share it is foreign to a
Speaker 7: white the ideology of whiteness, right, it is it is
Speaker 7: natural to our communities. It is foreign to them. So
Speaker 7: they're going to maintain power through by any means necessary
Speaker 7: and at all costs, which means stoking fear, which means
Speaker 7: stoking violence very intentionally, right, because that's always a tool
Speaker 7: of power.
Speaker 6: Because they mean to.
Speaker 7: They intend to ensure that they don't share power with
Speaker 7: anybody but themselves. And if there are wealthy people of
Speaker 7: color who think they gonna get it in on a pie,
Speaker 7: they are sadly mistaken.
Speaker 1: You know, Macary said a really important phrase moments ago.
Speaker 1: They used the word the ghetto, and that is how
Speaker 1: I felt all weekend, because it feels like the ghetto here.
Speaker 1: My girls planned a whole trip to go see the
Speaker 1: iconic tour, which would include Salt and Peppa TLC and
Speaker 1: in Vogue and Chili.
Speaker 2: Of TLC.
Speaker 1: Was was bound to God, who I also heard was
Speaker 1: her friend.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's true.
Speaker 1: We won't ask her to confirm nor deny, because when
Speaker 1: she confirms nor denies, it turns out it's not always
Speaker 1: actual and factual.
Speaker 2: To use a TLC.
Speaker 1: All I would like to say in this moment is
Speaker 1: that we should let her speak for herself. This is
Speaker 1: a long, meandering video explaining her reposting a Michelle Obama
Speaker 1: clip which I'll say I might surprise you on the
Speaker 1: other side of it, and then her written statement. So
Speaker 1: let's get into those two things, and then Nick Cannon,
Speaker 1: we got you next, buddy, especially because you didn't text
Speaker 1: me back Chili.
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I wanted to come on here to address
Speaker 9: a few things that's circulating on the internet that's very
Speaker 9: concerning to me. Let me say this first. I have
Speaker 9: the utmost respect and admiration for Michelle Obama, and I
Speaker 9: would never say or do anything that is disrespectful to
Speaker 9: her or to any woman. I would never do that.
Speaker 9: And I had no clue that this repulse had happened
Speaker 9: until I started getting phone calls and text messages from everybody.
Speaker 9: And I immediately went to my page to see what
Speaker 9: was going on. Now, mind you, I'm not very computer savvy,
Speaker 9: so I'm looking for this repost button, and I see
Speaker 9: that all of them, all of these buttons are very
Speaker 9: very close to each other, and clearly I was scrolling
Speaker 9: and my thumb hit the repost button. Again, I had
Speaker 9: no clue that something like this happened until I got
Speaker 9: all the calls. But of course I took that down,
Speaker 9: and you know, I would never post anything like that.
Speaker 9: I would never do something like that. That is not
Speaker 9: my character. I have supported the Obamas, I gave to
Speaker 9: the campaign both runs, voted twice for him, and supported
Speaker 9: the organization that Michelle had in the schools for exercise
Speaker 9: for the kids.
Speaker 6: I would never.
Speaker 9: Do any thing that's harmful or hateful to anybody, you know.
Speaker 9: I am just not wired like that, that is, that's
Speaker 9: just not who I am. And when it comes to
Speaker 9: organizations that I have donated to, these are the things
Speaker 9: that support the veterans. You know. I have always supported them,
Speaker 9: not just now, but for years. This is not something new.
Speaker 9: So I just wanted to let you guys know. You
Speaker 9: know this from me. You know that I would never
Speaker 9: do anything so disrespectful, and I would just never I'm
Speaker 9: just not about hate or anything like that. You know.
Speaker 9: If you look on my page and see my post,
Speaker 9: It's all about love, faith and connection. That's what I'm
Speaker 9: all about, you know. And I've always been that way
Speaker 9: and I will continue to be just that way. So
Speaker 9: I just want to thank you guys for you know,
Speaker 9: your love and your support and just taking the time
Speaker 9: to listen to me right now.
Speaker 2: I really really.
Speaker 9: Appreciate that, and I love you guys. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: So not such shots fired at the end of the
Speaker 1: TMZ clip that we can, but to go ahead, Bakari,
Speaker 1: before we get into what you're going to say, let's
Speaker 1: just post her statement up so we can read that
Speaker 1: as well, because that video addressed the Michelle Obama piece,
Speaker 1: but it didn't really address the donation. So she says,
Speaker 1: I want to be clear. I am not MAGA and
Speaker 1: do not support any of the many policies that are
Speaker 1: causing great harm to the American people. I made a mistake,
Speaker 1: too many make. I did not read the fine print.
Speaker 1: I thought I was supporting causes against human trafficking and
Speaker 1: four veterans, two things I care deeply about as my
Speaker 1: dad is a veteran and everyone knows I love children.
Speaker 1: I have learned a valuable lesson and asked for grace
Speaker 1: as I navigate this now. Bakari, I do want to
Speaker 1: hear from you, but I just want to say one
Speaker 1: thing is someone who actually likes to manage crises. The
Speaker 1: first rule here is you cannot lie. Once you have
Speaker 1: been targeted and people have like they're focusing on you,
Speaker 1: they're going to go dig through everything. So you say
Speaker 1: that you didn't know that your contributions were to political entities,
Speaker 1: but in your video you said you donated to the
Speaker 1: Barack Obama campaign several times, so you do know how
Speaker 1: to donate politically.
Speaker 2: That's one.
Speaker 6: Two.
Speaker 1: They're likely not to just look at your FEC filings
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four. They're likely to go back to
Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty to eighteen to sixteen to see
Speaker 1: where you donated. People are likely to pull your voter
Speaker 1: registration records. Now, to be fair to her, somebody did
Speaker 1: pull her voter registration records. They had her labeled as
Speaker 1: a Republican. That's not actually how it looks. I went
Speaker 1: to look for myself. But I also would advise someone,
Speaker 1: if they were a client, that you need to be
Speaker 1: mindful that people will also check who you follow and
Speaker 1: what posts you've liked, even if you did not share
Speaker 1: said posts. So some of the posts she liked from
Speaker 1: Byron Donald's page. She's not as political, but she's following
Speaker 1: a member of Congress from Florida. She lives in Georgia
Speaker 1: and Stone Mountain, Georgia. Look, I don't really care what
Speaker 1: AOC has to say, is one of the posts. Congratulations
Speaker 1: to Florida's own Marco Rubio on receiving a unanimous Senate confirmation.
Speaker 1: The time for weakness is over, the time for indecision
Speaker 1: is over, the time for appeasement is over. Thank you
Speaker 1: real Donald Trump. Under your leadership, we are entering the
Speaker 1: golden age of America. The best is yet to come.
Speaker 1: She likes a post where it says, if you allow
Speaker 1: the neighborhood children into your house and they start breaking stuff,
Speaker 1: do you let them stay? That's a post about immigration.
Speaker 1: She likes a post of Pete Hegseth, who has single
Speaker 1: handedly been violently detrimental to black women around DEI, and
Speaker 1: she liked his confirmation posts where jd Vance is swearing
Speaker 1: in Pete Hegseth. That's just a few of what I found,
Speaker 1: and so I yield the Flooria to my mind.
Speaker 7: Don't forget. Is reportedly audio of Tea Boys on a
Speaker 7: previous radio show several years ago saying, and I quote
Speaker 7: my bandmate voted for him as the team was talking
Speaker 7: about Trump, and that can only be about one person.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because yeah, yeah, Well I was just gonna say,
Speaker 8: I'm not disappointed. I think some of y'all may be disappointed,
Speaker 8: but I'm not really that disappointed. I kind of say that,
Speaker 8: you know, when people open their mouth, you find out
Speaker 8: a lot about them, and they who they pile around with,
Speaker 8: and how they think they might be a little different.
Speaker 8: And you know, they sell one thing to our community
Speaker 8: and then they go out and do another. So you
Speaker 8: know that ignorance, which is what it is, I think
Speaker 8: is more pervasive than we give it credit for. And
Speaker 8: I must say this that a lot of times black
Speaker 8: men get targeted because of some of those strands of
Speaker 8: weird conservatism that we have running through our community, some
Speaker 8: of the things we saw during the during the twenty
Speaker 8: twenty four and twenty twenty campaign as well. But I
Speaker 8: think it's more pervasive than we would give it credit for.
Speaker 8: And I think that's the sad.
Speaker 4: Partly clearly, I mean, and that's evident in some of
Speaker 4: the outcomes of the elections where we thought it was
Speaker 4: gonna go one way and it ultimately went another. I guess, well,
Speaker 4: she is entitled to believe whatever she wants to believe
Speaker 4: and to support whomever she wants to support. My confusion
Speaker 4: comes in when you backtrack and you don't own up
Speaker 4: to your shit. So if you believe, if say, for instance,
Speaker 4: faith is your reason that draws you nearer, I cannot imagine.
Speaker 4: But that's just me and my brain, and I'm limited
Speaker 4: how that would enure you closer to the policies of
Speaker 4: a Donald Trump or Keith Keg's breath, or or frankly
Speaker 4: anything that is emanating from the Republican Party right now,
Speaker 4: because they are a walking contradiction of any faith legitimate
Speaker 4: that I know of, not that I don't know of
Speaker 4: one on earth that they are representative of from a
Speaker 4: belief system, and and as expressed to their actions, this
Speaker 4: man just praying for more deaths to be rained down
Speaker 4: on innocent people. Right So, I'm talking about Hagg's breath,
Speaker 4: that that that that you like, Chili. I just think
Speaker 4: if you're gonna believe that, then double down in it.
Speaker 4: But if you what you what you're trying to sell
Speaker 4: me is I'm not very tech savvy, and so that's
Speaker 4: why I stay off the internets. I ain't so savvy either,
Speaker 4: but I don't be on there trying to you know,
Speaker 4: fake like I am. But the point that you make
Speaker 4: one mistake, I think you know we can't get with that.
Speaker 4: Maybe two. But now you've got multiple instances of you
Speaker 4: liking this strand of thinking and acting. Now you giving
Speaker 4: a grand ain't lightweight.
Speaker 2: And and giving to nine dollars just to either.
Speaker 4: Way, nine hundred dollars ain't lightweight and give I mean
Speaker 4: big weight.
Speaker 5: For me.
Speaker 4: Was a woman given twenty dollars a month, right for
Speaker 4: the duration of a year. That was big. So all
Speaker 4: I'm saying is you want us to buy a couple.
Speaker 4: You know, a few mistakes, that's one thing. But now
Speaker 4: your actions are not turning into your habits. And so
Speaker 4: don't be shocked when we start to assess you for
Speaker 4: what are now your habits, which you are entitled to.
Speaker 4: But if you're gonna, if you're gonna do the thing,
Speaker 4: they own the thing say I'm there, and I'm there
Speaker 4: for this reason. What I really feel, y'all is that
Speaker 4: I've heard some of the background stories of a number
Speaker 4: of those women who are part of this tour and
Speaker 4: how the struggle has been real as the decades have
Speaker 4: gone by, as new artists have come online, and all
Speaker 4: of us understand how that works, the fact that they
Speaker 4: are you know, I just Jay and I just went
Speaker 4: to the new edition and voiced the men and and
Speaker 4: and Tony Tony Braxton h a concert and you know
Speaker 4: it was great, powerful voices. I loved the love that
Speaker 4: was in the room. You know, for them, they didn't
Speaker 4: have to Bobby Brown didn't have to move his legs
Speaker 4: two times before. Folks were shotting like dot the mos. Yes,
Speaker 4: I mean it was around me. Yeah, it was. Oh
Speaker 4: my gosh. And you're looking at it side by side
Speaker 4: with the video from like when he originally.
Speaker 2: Did it, and do it Andrew.
Speaker 4: But we're so loving, We're like, oh boy, he is up.
Speaker 4: He dropped it. I'm like, drop way he dropped off
Speaker 4: the stage Andrew at any point he wanted to because
Speaker 4: he's left tired. I'm walking off and I'll be gone nice.
Speaker 4: But but but the point is that, like we got
Speaker 4: mad love for these folks and I and I know
Speaker 4: that the struggle is real there, and the same is true.
Speaker 4: I've heard about many of the NVOGUE members and you know,
Speaker 4: living out of the you know your car and that
Speaker 4: kind of thing. I want so badly for their their
Speaker 4: work to be properly recognized, celebrated, and for them to
Speaker 4: get the kind of win that they need from that.
Speaker 4: And I fear, Chile that your repeated mistakes, which have
Speaker 4: now become not just mistakes but rather habit, which then
Speaker 4: tell us who you are at least some of who
Speaker 4: you are, may have an impact there. And I would
Speaker 4: just adminded. I would just ask the folks out there,
Speaker 4: there are ways in which we can we can we
Speaker 4: can lift up our disdain and our rejection and our
Speaker 4: rebuff of of of her beliefs, and how we are
Speaker 4: harmed by it, particularly in our community, while not punishing
Speaker 4: the overwhelming majority of those women who highly skilled, have
Speaker 4: always loved in our community, who are in a position
Speaker 4: now to receive love again from us.
Speaker 5: So let's give it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna yield to brit I lost this vote,
Speaker 1: andrew your your petition is the one that I levied
Speaker 1: with the girls.
Speaker 2: I have lost the machetes. I am the lone soldier
Speaker 2: saying you were holding out.
Speaker 7: I want to say you you stood on Democracy ten
Speaker 7: totally down and I part of me wants to be
Speaker 7: able to just go and enjoy. But I am absolutely disappointed.
Speaker 7: And I'm disappointed in part because I grew up on
Speaker 7: TLC so A. I had some late summer plans with
Speaker 7: my machety girls, right we were gonna go get down.
Speaker 7: I couldn't go to the last concert with y'a because
Speaker 7: I had to work, so I was like, this is
Speaker 7: my makeup time.
Speaker 6: I was trying to shake some mass.
Speaker 7: To creep like I had plants and then here you
Speaker 7: go messing them up, right, So like, I'm disappointed personally,
Speaker 7: but I'm also disappointed because growing up on TLC, they
Speaker 7: were cutting edge. They were the first folks talking about
Speaker 7: safe sex, when they were talking about affirming queer people,
Speaker 7: they were talking about suicide and body image. Like you know,
Speaker 7: I'm thinking about waterfalls and all of the warnings that
Speaker 7: we tried to heed from them, right from not chasing
Speaker 7: the waterfalls to not dating no scrubs like they were
Speaker 7: supposed to be empowerment for the rest of us who
Speaker 7: Trump can't stand. So for this it's turn of face
Speaker 7: to happen. Yeah, I'm disappointed. I feel betrayed.
Speaker 5: Or did we just not know her?
Speaker 7: Maybe we didn't know her and I maybe changed. I
Speaker 7: do miss the time and we didn't know everything.
Speaker 4: About it.
Speaker 2: Easier to enjoy the art.
Speaker 7: But now that we do know when my mama always says, well,
Speaker 7: you know better, you got to do better, and she's
Speaker 7: around too many people who can help her know better
Speaker 7: to not be doing better. And I think that there's
Speaker 7: a there's a like there's a sense of betrayal a
Speaker 7: because black women are like we the ninety two percent.
Speaker 7: We still some of us are plenty confused about why
Speaker 7: the a percent even exists. But two, I'm not disappointed
Speaker 7: in Nick Cannon because Nick Cannon is who he's shown
Speaker 7: himself to be for several years now. So like there's
Speaker 7: a different I have a different response to him.
Speaker 6: That's right, Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: Part of the Republican Party.
Speaker 6: Uh huh, that's right.
Speaker 12: A former Democrat, former liberal, A liberal Democrat.
Speaker 2: My whole life is that because.
Speaker 18: The bag has got so intense and so heavy.
Speaker 6: That you had a whole nother you up there with
Speaker 6: the elite.
Speaker 2: Now not even close, not even close.
Speaker 12: Democrats don't care about black people, and they don't care about.
Speaker 2: People, They don't care about people of color.
Speaker 12: And the Republicans do. And that's the misconcession.
Speaker 6: And you know what, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: One, people don't know that the Democrats is the party
Speaker 4: of the KKKA.
Speaker 19: People don't know that the Republicans.
Speaker 2: Are the party that freed the slaves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean most of you and I have some
Speaker 4: conservative views.
Speaker 6: You're just a little bit more outspoken about.
Speaker 4: It than I am. And I honestly I don't subscribe
Speaker 4: to neither party.
Speaker 18: I'll rock with W. E. D.
Speaker 4: The voice when he said there's no such thing as
Speaker 4: two parties, as just one evil party with two different names.
Speaker 12: So yeah, I mean, look, I listen, I'm not married
Speaker 12: to any party, right. I voted for Donald Trump because
Speaker 12: he's we had two options and he was definitely, by
Speaker 12: far the better option for us, And as of now,
Speaker 12: I agree with a lot of things that he's doing.
Speaker 2: But what was Guess what?
Speaker 12: If there's a time where I don't agree, I'll say
Speaker 12: I don't agree.
Speaker 6: I'm got the Gulf of America.
Speaker 7: Now, the charging even like the club you charging on
Speaker 7: five million dollar bottle service.
Speaker 5: Feed to get into the country.
Speaker 12: Listen, but guess what?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 5: Really quickly, really quick? Oh I'm sorry no, But I.
Speaker 8: Mean, like like that type of ignorance, it breeds, It
Speaker 8: breeds two questions like one, where along the line do
Speaker 8: you have to spend your time and treasure? Which none,
Speaker 8: none of the four of us have a great deal
Speaker 8: of time. I tell people the most two valuable things
Speaker 8: I have in this world or relationships, because I feel
Speaker 8: like I can call them any of you three and
Speaker 8: you probably won't pick up the phone. But at least
Speaker 8: it makes me feel good to know that I can
Speaker 8: call you right and that you know time and relationships
Speaker 8: are the most important thing. And so when do I
Speaker 8: have to sit down with someone like Nick Cannon and
Speaker 8: educate him on what happened in nineteen forty eight when
Speaker 8: Dixiecrats broke away from the Democratic Party because of our
Speaker 8: stances on realignment, because of our stance on civil rights
Speaker 8: right and led by Strong Thurman, they believed in segregation
Speaker 8: and states rights. They joined what is now the modern
Speaker 8: day Republican Party, and you had a complete realignment. So
Speaker 8: everything you said was utter bullshit. I'm sorry to curse
Speaker 8: because I know your mama's listening to the show, Brittany.
Speaker 15: But.
Speaker 6: And you know she loves you. She's like not Pakari.
Speaker 2: Headphones.
Speaker 7: The thing that irks me is that these free thinking
Speaker 7: folks are so disrespectful. Did they think that they know
Speaker 7: betterrand mama's, they mama's, they daddy's, they uncles, all these
Speaker 7: black folks who have also read books, who have also
Speaker 7: studied history, who can also quote the great scholars of
Speaker 7: African American history, like the disrespect that it takes to
Speaker 7: think that you have become enlightened to something that the
Speaker 7: rest of us are ignorant to while we're all actively
Speaker 7: being harmed by the people you're propping up, and you
Speaker 7: just don't feel it as badly because you're famous and rich.
Speaker 7: As wild to me, if somebody didn't get popped in
Speaker 7: the mouth enough when they were.
Speaker 5: I believe I can I ask you guys a question
Speaker 5: because the way you.
Speaker 1: Do that, because you're going to have us down a
Speaker 1: different land. Let me just say this about Nick Nick
Speaker 1: is I consider Nick a friend.
Speaker 2: I think that especially when he was at Howard, I found.
Speaker 5: Him fault, no.
Speaker 4: Job.
Speaker 6: He didn't respond to he didn't.
Speaker 1: Respond to my text, And I think for me, I
Speaker 1: give people the benefit of you know, tell me why
Speaker 1: I should vote, and you have that conversation. It's a
Speaker 1: conversation we've had actually on air on his podcast. What
Speaker 1: I think what surprised me here is is not that
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel beholden to either parties. I think most
Speaker 1: of us, most of our people, in some way don't
Speaker 1: feel beholden to either party.
Speaker 2: Feel very much.
Speaker 1: As much as Bikari might have some disdain about this,
Speaker 1: it is the lesser to evils on policy.
Speaker 2: In a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: There are Democrats right now having conversations about whether or
Speaker 1: not DEI was the right path for us to take.
Speaker 2: We have to be honest about that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that we should over romanticize the relationship
Speaker 1: between the black community and the Democratic Party. Nonetheless, we
Speaker 1: ain't dummies. Were not about to be supporting the party
Speaker 1: that's questioning the fourteenth Amendment. We're not about to go
Speaker 1: We know how hard fought. If you watch what Fanny
Speaker 1: Lieulhammer says about what they had to do to vote,
Speaker 1: the beatings, the threat like Medgar Evers being killed in
Speaker 1: his driveway, Like we know what had to happen to
Speaker 1: force the Democratic Party towards righteousness.
Speaker 2: That was our work. I mean, like that's the part
Speaker 2: for me, Like I.
Speaker 1: Don't want you to be I'm so provocative that you
Speaker 1: lose your footing on intellectualism and and being and facts
Speaker 1: just facts. You ain't even got to be smart, just facts.
Speaker 1: Just check your facts. And I think you know, even
Speaker 1: when he cites w e B, I love.
Speaker 2: W e B. But he was very practical and pragmatic.
Speaker 1: I don't see anywhere where he tells us not to
Speaker 1: vote or don't participate in the system that is going
Speaker 1: to be making decisions about our lives and whether or
Speaker 1: not we can thrive like that is not the message.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is, I will say this, I
Speaker 1: think that that whole rhetoric in that car ride was
Speaker 1: as reckless as them too.
Speaker 2: Niggas not even have a seatbelts on.
Speaker 4: Well, well at least with their no seat belts, their
Speaker 4: lives is in their hands. The the the the other
Speaker 4: stuff is they're using their influence to pedal uh. You
Speaker 4: know people. The problem is that I keep hearing these
Speaker 4: lines repeated. Everybody want to talk about Abraham Lincoln. Everybody
Speaker 4: want to talk about what the Democrats in the sixties
Speaker 4: data without can y'all just read the book to this conclusion?
Speaker 4: Just just just complete more than that sentence. Just read
Speaker 4: a little bit further so that you have an understanding
Speaker 4: that's grounded in something that's real.
Speaker 1: That's every way you say, you say you stopped that
Speaker 1: chapter five, it's twenty five.
Speaker 4: You just stop that line too. Just get to the
Speaker 4: end of that.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: It's easier to copy and paste the topics that process.
Speaker 4: It's easy to do that, but it's cheap. It's also
Speaker 4: low grow. I'm not acting for intellectualism. I really am not,
Speaker 4: not at all, I'm just asking for self preservation. Just
Speaker 4: think about you, your family, your condition, how you grew up.
Speaker 4: But my reframe and I said this about fifty cent
Speaker 4: when we were talking about well, why would he better
Speaker 4: guess what these people and their proximity to power is
Speaker 4: different than mine. Their resource either has diluted them into
Speaker 4: or that it has demonstrated enough that they can get
Speaker 4: them into some places where who they have to consider,
Speaker 4: what they have to consider, what they need to be
Speaker 4: standing up for, and what they need to be staying
Speaker 4: silent on has shifted so to I don't want I
Speaker 4: no longer believe skin folk is skin folks. I no
Speaker 4: longer believe that at the end of the day we
Speaker 4: will all have some fidelity to the fact that our
Speaker 4: people struggled, did this, lost this, did this sacrifice in
Speaker 4: this way first generation. This is now a common uniting frame.
Speaker 4: They are now divorced from our historical and even recent
Speaker 4: experience because their reality has changed, and quite frankly, they
Speaker 4: can only be counted upon for what I would normally
Speaker 4: ascribe to white folks by and large, which is that
Speaker 4: they have the power and they are committed to keeping it.
Speaker 4: And so these folks believe they got a shred and
Speaker 4: they're committed to keeping it.
Speaker 8: I don't believe in canceling people. I think cancelation is
Speaker 8: the dumbest thing on earth. I do believe in consequence though.
Speaker 8: I think that people, people, there are consequences for your actions.
Speaker 17: But I don't.
Speaker 8: Believe that we have the ability to like erase people
Speaker 8: from our lives.
Speaker 5: Whatever. That's my own personal permanybody, but yeah, that's my Does.
Speaker 8: It matter though, because I've always come come, and I
Speaker 8: said this yesterday on our call, but I've always come
Speaker 8: from the opinion that with greater talent comes more tolerance. Right,
Speaker 8: you see, you see you see people who excel. I mean,
Speaker 8: you see people who excel at something, they say something,
Speaker 8: they stay around the team. As soon as the person
Speaker 8: who can play like that say something just like what
Speaker 8: he says, they cut.
Speaker 5: They on the next flight out Right.
Speaker 8: I'm not necessarily talking about Jada and I because he's
Speaker 8: actually going through a mental crisis. So I'm trying to
Speaker 8: I'm refraining from and I love Nell, so I don't
Speaker 8: want to. I don't want to cast any aspersions on
Speaker 8: what she's going in right now with with Jada, But
Speaker 8: I will tell you that that I do believe whether
Speaker 8: or not it's art, entertainment, sport, culture, when people, when
Speaker 8: people have greater talent, we give them more runway. So
Speaker 8: does it matter that these people have these platforms? Does
Speaker 8: it matter that they are an extremely attractive trio? The
Speaker 8: last I mean, Chili's fifty five years old. She was
Speaker 8: gorgeous even at fifty five. You know, amber Rose is
Speaker 8: a type to certain people. Nick Nick Cannon got thirty
Speaker 8: seven beautiful baby mamas like, but does it matter? Does
Speaker 8: it matter in culture? And as we're having these debates
Speaker 8: one you know that does talent mean that we need
Speaker 8: to treat these people any differently than we would treat others?
Speaker 5: That's my question.
Speaker 4: You know when they entered the lane that they probably
Speaker 4: should stay out, I mean.
Speaker 5: And shut up and dribble.
Speaker 4: If you're not, if you don't want be held accountable
Speaker 4: for waylaying your way into an area of which you
Speaker 4: have no uh a reasonable set of knowledge, skill, perspective,
Speaker 4: ideology practice meaning you don't vote, then do what you do,
Speaker 4: and then you don't have to worry about folks coming
Speaker 4: down on you for saying stupid ass shit.
Speaker 1: I just I think my question here is twofold one
Speaker 1: is we're a little over an hour into the show.
Speaker 2: I know he had one nose. You're fine.
Speaker 1: We have one set of issues we were planning to
Speaker 1: talk about on the mini pod, but I'm actually gonna
Speaker 1: ask if we would consider expanding this conversation to the
Speaker 1: mini pod, because we spend a lot of time focusing
Speaker 1: on the accountability of what an entertainer might say. But
Speaker 1: what I really want to do is try to turn
Speaker 1: this into us like an internal reflection for ourselves because
Speaker 1: we want to Some people want to cancel, some people
Speaker 1: want to openly rebuke record a video talking about these folks.
Speaker 1: But my question really is, like what passes do we
Speaker 1: give ourselves for the brands that we continue to support
Speaker 1: despite their endorsement whole throated, full throated endorsement of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump or his policies or their donations. But we give
Speaker 1: ourselves a pass? What is the barometer release?
Speaker 16: Ye?
Speaker 1: No, and I think it's a good one. I think
Speaker 1: it's going to take longer than what we should have
Speaker 1: on the show, And so we.
Speaker 2: Can invite keeping Guy.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about Drew Ski another time. Drew Skill
Speaker 1: come out with another great skit for us to run.
Speaker 2: But we're going to do this. I do want to
Speaker 2: end here.
Speaker 1: In this conversation here so we can get to see
Speaker 1: tas with this Malcolm X clip. Who you know, because
Speaker 1: we study history in here, not just till chapter five
Speaker 1: andrew all the way through Project twenty twenty five. He
Speaker 1: just runs us back to something that we've seen before
Speaker 1: and we're seeing right now.
Speaker 2: Let's run it.
Speaker 19: Medians, comics, trumpet players, baseball players. Show me in the
Speaker 19: white community, where a comedian is a white leader. Show
Speaker 19: me in the white community where our singer is a
Speaker 19: white leader, or a dancer or a trumpet player is
Speaker 19: a white leader. These aren't leaders. These are puppets and
Speaker 19: clowns that have been set up over the white community
Speaker 19: and are over the black community by the white unity,
Speaker 19: and have been made celebrities and usually say exactly what
Speaker 19: they know that the white man wants to hear.
Speaker 4: You aren't gonna buy Sammy Davis Junior by inviting him
Speaker 4: to the lighthouse, shouldn't buy him by doing something for America.
Speaker 1: And of course at the end of this Malcolm X clip.
Speaker 1: Throughout there are quotes from w E B. D Boys,
Speaker 1: the accurate quotes of w EB the Boys as well
Speaker 1: as from Lanston Hughes, and there is an image of
Speaker 1: Sammy Davis Junior hugging Richard Nixon from the back very lovingly,
Speaker 1: and so with that calls to action family.
Speaker 4: His endorsement of Nixon left a scar on him that
Speaker 4: he will wear it to his grave. Is what I
Speaker 4: saw from Sammy Davis is that the quote I think
Speaker 4: maybe he did. I just wanted to say, for those
Speaker 4: who are on the listening side, oh say it aloud.
Speaker 2: I can't read on them quotes that quick. Thank you Andrew, who.
Speaker 18: Cares about truth in the last morning seen it.
Speaker 8: I just think that we should during this time of chaos,
Speaker 8: because that's what you did a great job Angela hosting today,
Speaker 8: because it's it's kind of like drinking out of a
Speaker 8: fire hose, and it's just so much that comes. So
Speaker 8: I want people to practice more meditation. I want people
Speaker 8: to take their shoes off and let their feet touch
Speaker 8: the grass. I want people to go outside and like
Speaker 8: sniff flowers and eat fresh fruits. I just think that
Speaker 8: it's so much going on that we need to make
Speaker 8: sure that we're mentally, physically and emotionally healthy to undertake
Speaker 8: the trauma that is coming our way because Andrew likes
Speaker 8: to say that the only way that we overcome this
Speaker 8: is with people, and they are trying to beat us down,
Speaker 8: and so we need to make sure that our people
Speaker 8: are healthy enough to fight back.
Speaker 2: What you got, hosts me, I'm away to the end.
Speaker 4: No, I was. I was talking about misspac Nick Cunningham.
Speaker 6: Miss Pacietti over here.
Speaker 7: Well, besides the call to action, to go vote on
Speaker 7: the webbies so Undistracted can win one of these two webbies,
Speaker 7: and to subscribe to Undistracted wherever you get your podcasts
Speaker 7: and on YouTube, because we're coming to YouTube now for
Speaker 7: this is for.
Speaker 6: I just really want us.
Speaker 7: To find community. I think what Bakari said is so important.
Speaker 7: There is no way we're going to get through this
Speaker 7: without each other, and we're turning to our roots and
Speaker 7: the ways that we upheld, educated and supported one another,
Speaker 7: that we restored when folks were out of order and
Speaker 7: lovingly corrected, and the ways that we held one another
Speaker 7: to account so that we could be there for community.
Speaker 7: That's what's gonna take in this time. I think often
Speaker 7: about that song that will read the saying so famously
Speaker 7: but that we know get sung in churches, Black churches
Speaker 7: all across the country about how I got over and
Speaker 7: the only way we're gonna get over is by being
Speaker 7: in touch with our creator and being in touch with
Speaker 7: each other.
Speaker 4: I love that. I love both of those. I know
Speaker 4: that No King's protests with this past week weekend for
Speaker 4: a lot of folks, you know, shout outs to you
Speaker 4: if you participated, Shout outs to you if you were
Speaker 4: there in spirit but watching, and shout out to those
Speaker 4: of us who just appreciated that there were people out
Speaker 4: there demonstrating the largest protests in American history against an
Speaker 4: American president. But something that caught my attention and I'm
Speaker 4: extremely excited about is that the next No King's event,
Speaker 4: May first, is intended to be a general strike. Now,
Speaker 4: this has been called for by many on the left
Speaker 4: from differently. I know the Mayor of Chicago had mentioned
Speaker 4: it in in a speech several months back, that that's
Speaker 4: one way to bring a country, and it's in a
Speaker 4: situation to heal is to withhold not only your money
Speaker 4: but your person, Meaning you don't if you're a teacher,
Speaker 4: you don't show up, if you're a student, you show up.
Speaker 4: If you are everyday citizen working for whomever. You don't
Speaker 4: show up, you don't shop, you don't do anything, so
Speaker 4: that the full effect of what it means to have
Speaker 4: us extracted from a place begins to be felt. And
Speaker 4: I just hope for those of us who have sat out,
Speaker 4: have watched, have reclined, even in our own stress and
Speaker 4: in our own misery, or just out of self preservation,
Speaker 4: whatever that's been, that may first and following this No
Speaker 4: King's movement toward a general strike, to make it as
Speaker 4: impactful as seismic as we possibly can. Please please please
Speaker 4: do your research, Google find out what it is. Maybe
Speaker 4: at some point between now and then we'll feature a
Speaker 4: topic about what a general strike is, what it looks like,
Speaker 4: what the history of it is. But for a president
Speaker 4: who seems to be driven by very few things, but
Speaker 4: one of those things is the market, this is a
Speaker 4: way at which we get you in a single day's
Speaker 4: effort illustrate our power. It's it's huge, and I really
Speaker 4: hope that our community embraces this step and signs onto
Speaker 4: the general strike.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love all your calls to action today. I mine
Speaker 1: is simple. I want you to be in conversation and
Speaker 1: hopefully have friends who do not think like you. I
Speaker 1: think it's so important for us to have dimension, for
Speaker 1: us not to categorize things as black or white shout
Speaker 1: out to Michael Jackson, but to really be able to
Speaker 1: see the spectrum of gray because it is large. I
Speaker 1: agree with Bakari about cancelation. I believe in calling people in,
Speaker 1: but if you you know, if you lie, you should
Speaker 1: get called out too. I still think that there should
Speaker 1: always be an opportunity for redemption, always an opportunity to
Speaker 1: give grace as we've been given grace, and I think
Speaker 1: that we it's really important that we talk to people
Speaker 1: who will challenge our thinking, which sometimes can become flat
Speaker 1: when it's not so. Shout out to everybody who pushes
Speaker 1: their friends and loves on them. I will say that, Bakari,
Speaker 1: we have some gold headphones with your name engraved on
Speaker 1: them that should be sitting on.
Speaker 2: Your front porch.
Speaker 4: Now, please trump.
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