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Speaker 2: I wish you got some new headphones.

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Speaker 3: Well what the hell? Anytime you feel like a.

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Speaker 4: Boy, if you don't, oh.

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Speaker 1: Turn And so today we are in full turtleneck protests

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Speaker 1: because Bacari still.

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Speaker 4: Got them raggedy and he got me in a mock turtle.

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Speaker 4: That video a turtle next.

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Speaker 5: So I would not be I will not be bullied.

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Speaker 2: I will carry does not have on his turtle neck.

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Speaker 2: But what we do is we have on our turn

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Speaker 2: on next.

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Speaker 1: So if just everybody at home, if you see this,

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Speaker 1: please wear turtle next all week in protest, and til

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Speaker 1: Bakari gets a new headphone, yeah, walk.

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Speaker 2: Up to him and just say turn on that. Okay.

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Speaker 1: This is episode one hundred and twenty five of Native

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Speaker 1: lampod where we give you our breakdown of all.

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Speaker 2: Things politics and culture.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Angela Raie, joined here with my co

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Speaker 1: host Andrew Gillian and Baccari Sellers and we are joined

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Speaker 1: again by a sister friend, again by a machete and

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Speaker 1: the virtual building. Nominated for What's Better Than One webby

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Speaker 1: two for her podcast Undistracted, returning next Thursday. She is

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Speaker 1: Brittany Pacneck Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: Welcome britt Or.

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Speaker 6: If you're nasty, if you nasty, period. I'm so glad

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Speaker 6: to be back with you all, especially.

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Speaker 7: On a day when I get to participate in Bookari Center.

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Speaker 6: So thank you for much.

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Speaker 8: Truly, truly, I was reading It's hard out here every since,

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Speaker 8: every since we won that Oscar a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: It just ain't been. It ain't been the same we.

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Speaker 3: Who is we?

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Speaker 9: How?

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Speaker 4: Michael Michael Bokard, Michael.

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Speaker 1: Michael Bokar, Jordan, you know this is getting underline stocker ish,

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Speaker 1: It really is the facts, Michael book Sorry, Jordan.

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Speaker 2: We're sorry for this man.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, he's gonna say, he's gonna say, I don't know

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Speaker 5: this man.

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Speaker 2: Yes he is. He gonna do you like he did

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Speaker 2: for his high from his high school.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's right.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into today's show, I just want to

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Speaker 3: In the building, y'all.

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Speaker 8: Andrew, Happy Spellman nights. And I guess if you went

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Speaker 8: to more House too, you can come through.

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Speaker 4: Understand did you see you understand what you did?

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Speaker 1: Go to spell them in a little bit too. But

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Speaker 1: I'm saying absolutely, man, I bet, but car you don't

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Speaker 5: They be there.

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Speaker 4: There's a difference that I went there and I graduated.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see I would like to see a

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Speaker 1: fam you More House competition.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see if More rather show.

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Speaker 4: Competition, we would not.

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Speaker 5: That's not a competition, So who's gonna win?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's not a question either, I mean, what are

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Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 5: Not a real life people.

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Speaker 8: Been thrown Yeah, they you know they apply and and

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Speaker 1: If I'm sorry, maybe you're confused about what the competition is.

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Speaker 1: I want to know whether more Fam You folks or

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Speaker 4: Never More House is based in I don't know the

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Speaker 4: city any second place that they would have an impressive turnout,

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Speaker 4: but I'm willing to put some money on it, and

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Speaker 8: And I'm gonna only way that happens if Andrew buys

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Speaker 7: He said, it's going to be a cop party.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well let's see that.

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Speaker 4: Let's see there we gonna And of course, the only

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Speaker 4: is if what Oprah or what's what's the man Smith?

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Speaker 4: Or who else underwriting y'all's education? I mean, he said,

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Speaker 2: It's okay. I'm gonna move on from this, but I

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Speaker 1: If y'all went to FAMI, you show up, Spellman Clark Atlanta, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Show up to everybody.

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Speaker 1: If there's there's any Seattle, you law school of Lumps,

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Speaker 1: But now, y'all, because we got a lot of news,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it.

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Speaker 3: Y'all.

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Speaker 2: This news week has been crazier than that Duke yukon

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Speaker 4: The cut and run through the ball though better than

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Speaker 2: We talk about a Cinderella ending.

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Speaker 1: That unfortunately is not how our news is going this

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Speaker 1: week though, So for your situational awareness, we have a

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Speaker 1: point two million dollars settlement. Now we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: this is Briannam. The reason Christy lost her job is

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Speaker 1: he compliment This man is the well I'm let me

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Speaker 1: just get through it, y'all, y'all, let me still throw

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Speaker 1: then y'all jump in. So this man has been moonlighting

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Speaker 1: virtually with sex workers. The selfies with balloon booths are

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Speaker 1: the least of the issues here. He has been telling

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Speaker 1: we say hypocrisy much? Let's look at what Christy has

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Speaker 12: Normally, in South Dakota only girls play girls sports.

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Speaker 2: Why because of Governor Christy Nomes Leadershi.

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Speaker 11: Christy Gnomes stood up for us, passing the toughest law

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Speaker 4: So what happens with trans athletes?

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Speaker 13: Well, if a trans athlete does make a sporting team

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Speaker 11: There is a statistic circulating around right now that ninety

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Speaker 5: Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 12: I don't know.

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Speaker 13: That makes me sad and we should figure it out.

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Speaker 4: Is that a spoof for herself?

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Speaker 1: No, that was really It turns out that she's actually

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Speaker 1: a spoof now on this. I want to know what

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Speaker 1: y'all think. This is a lot happening in the GNOAM household.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it explains a little bit why she's dipping off

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Speaker 1: with Corey Lewandowski allegedly, but I am curious to know

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Speaker 8: I do have one immediate concern about this that's been

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Speaker 8: to see of mister Brian though, the dog was in

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Speaker 8: is why I believe the dog got knocked off. I

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Speaker 8: think the dog saw too much, the dogs, the dogs

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Speaker 8: I just want you all to know that nothing happens

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Speaker 4: Manager, Oh, I know it applies, yes, sir. My general

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Speaker 4: And then wonders, actually partly I don't even believe her wondering,

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Speaker 4: not create It is not courageous. It's not bold to

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Speaker 4: I just, you know, I don't know the man. You know,

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Speaker 4: God bless him for sitting through that hearing while you know,

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Speaker 4: he had to hear all about the Corey of Lewandowski

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Speaker 4: my guess is, you know, he probably kind of knows

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Speaker 2: Was telling the sex workers about it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, all I'm saying is is I think they

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Speaker 7: I think that they both knew what was going on,

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Speaker 7: and I think a conspiracy is a foot. Chall want

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Speaker 7: to know what my conspiracy theory. I want to hear

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Speaker 7: the theory allegedly. Okay, so here's my thing. They both

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 7: It ain't no way that you're the former director of

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Speaker 7: Homeland Security and you don't know what's going on in

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Speaker 7: your husband's text messages. Right, But this information got released

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Speaker 7: right around trans Day of Visibility. And one of the

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Speaker 7: identity and expression. And so I feel like this got released.

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Speaker 7: She knew it was coming, and she said, let me

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Speaker 7: very community that I continue to rel Again, that's my

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Speaker 4: I think one of his showns put it out.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, but let me tell y' all.

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Speaker 1: This this is only beginning of trans issues, not just

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Speaker 15: Tell me about mail in ballots going You may not

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Speaker 4: You know here before the word who raised the questions there?

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Speaker 16: I'm Maya Wiley, President and CEO of the Leadership Conference

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Speaker 4: a new barrier to prevent our votes from being legally

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Speaker 4: cast and counted contrary to what the state law is.

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Speaker 4: I just I want people to really get the offense.

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Speaker 4: Here is a federal government inserting itself because of its

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Speaker 4: delivery of mail services. To then decide that they're just

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Speaker 4: going to take on a whole another power, run my

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Speaker 4: name through a database, and decide to dispose of my

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Speaker 4: vote or deliver it. That's crazy.

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Speaker 5: I look at it from a different angle a little bit.

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Speaker 8: I think the judicial independence is something that we really

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Speaker 8: haven't taken seriously as a country up until recently. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I go back to Rama Manuel when he was chief

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Speaker 8: of staff of Barack Obama talking about the lack of

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Speaker 8: import they're putting on justices. Because he had to pass

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Speaker 8: the Affordable care act. I think about the fact that

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Speaker 8: we had people out here talking about the Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 8: and Donald Trump were the lesser of two evils when

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Speaker 8: you had three Supreme Court justices up. And it's just

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Speaker 8: something that we haven't really spoken to voters about, both

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Speaker 8: locally and on a state level and the federal judiciary,

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Speaker 8: because when you see rulings like this, it usually comes

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Speaker 8: from extremely smart, independent jurists who understand the law and

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Speaker 8: who can apply the law to these draconian measures that

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Speaker 8: the administration is trying to put forward. So, I mean,

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Speaker 8: I know every week I get on here and talk

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Speaker 8: about elections. I think last week we talked about the

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Speaker 8: Secretary of State and for some people that may be mundane,

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Speaker 8: but man, focus on your magistrates all the way up.

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Speaker 5: I mean we are seeing the import of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think what you're saying is another reminder of why

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Speaker 7: elections matter and is one of those dots people don't connect,

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Speaker 7: right that the elected folks are who appoint the judges.

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Speaker 7: The other reason why election elections matter so much that's

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Speaker 7: being demonstrated here, though, is that as important as these

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Speaker 7: rulings are, he's already done the damage. The Corporation for

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Speaker 7: Public broadcasting is already shuttered because the funding got removed.

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Speaker 7: The East Wing is already destroyed and all of its

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Speaker 7: history along with it. Right, So when you elect people

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Speaker 7: who wipe their flabby behinds with the constitution, the litigation

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Speaker 7: is important, but it can only do so much if

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Speaker 7: we put them in power in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that is true, but thank God for the

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Speaker 1: courts that we do have with that with good sense,

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Speaker 1: because they are stopping the activity that have already that's

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Speaker 1: already been taken CPS, I mean, I'm n PR and PBS.

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Speaker 1: That is unconstitutional and that is a protection of the

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Speaker 1: First Amendment. It would have been nice if it would

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Speaker 1: have stopped before all of the bleeding. But I think

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Speaker 1: at this point we got to get we can't.

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Speaker 2: But car are you?

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Speaker 7: I mean, damn, I'm thirsty too, but I don't want

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Speaker 7: to pop it since.

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Speaker 6: I'm a guess.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, y'all, So.

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Speaker 8: Y'all think just stay like this man. You gotta you

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Speaker 8: gotta mind your business and drink your water.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows speaking of coke cans, Let's turn our attention

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Speaker 1: to uh the Supreme Court case Claire Thomas. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with him. You know, every now and then, not every

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Speaker 1: now and then. Anyway, today Claire Thomas asked this question

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Speaker 1: bout Riscott, and that's not the question we have. But

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Speaker 1: I do want to roll the first Claire's Thomas question

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Speaker 1: we have. I just want to acknowledge Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 1: has been in the room for or arguments we're saying today.

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Speaker 1: But it's going to ar tomorrow obviously, but this is

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Speaker 1: still fresh, so we don't have it all together. I

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Speaker 1: do want to roll this Claire's Thomas question.

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Speaker 17: Generally, you're getting a lot of questions about immigration, and

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Speaker 17: they harken back, of course to the citizenship which is

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Speaker 17: defined in or set out in the fourteenth Amendment. How

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Speaker 17: much of the debates around the fourteenth Amendment had anything

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Speaker 17: to do with immigration.

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Speaker 11: I think that the principal focus of those debates it

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Speaker 11: has to do it really not with immigrants, but with

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Speaker 11: the Indian tribes. I mean, obviously, the main goal, that

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Speaker 11: one pervading purpose of this court set in the slaughterhouse cases,

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Speaker 11: was to establish the citizenship of the free slaves and

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Speaker 11: their children. But they were very concerned about the problem

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Speaker 11: of something that they all accept it as a given,

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Speaker 11: which is that the children of tribal Indians are not

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Speaker 11: within the rule of birthright citizenship. So I think that's

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Speaker 11: what they focused and we draw an analogy to that

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Speaker 11: too the issue of temporary sojourners. But there are mentions

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Speaker 11: of temporary sojourny multiple places in the congressional debates, and

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Speaker 11: all of those quotes go in our direction.

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Speaker 2: So that's the first one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all want to get into another

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Speaker 1: part of the orals here, but what is I think

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Speaker 1: really fascinating. The lead attorney on our side of the

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Speaker 1: issue is a child of immigrants arguing birthright citizenship. And

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Speaker 1: you see the blatant hypocrisy not only of the Republican Party,

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration, and probably some of these justices when

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Speaker 1: this ruling will eventually come out or on this particular issue,

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Speaker 1: some of them being children of immigrants themselves.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know I.

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Speaker 4: Want to do if I could just back up a

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Speaker 4: second to mention because I know we've all been inisconsd

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Speaker 4: in this case, as we've heard oral arguments today before

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Speaker 4: the you know, the High Court. But but what's that

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Speaker 4: question here is that the President has signed an executive

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Speaker 4: order several months back that basically says that redefines the

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Speaker 4: fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which established, just for all

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Speaker 4: of our knowledge, that an individual born here in the

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Speaker 4: United States is considered a citizen of the United States

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Speaker 4: of America, regardless of where their parents originated. And there

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Speaker 4: are a few exceptions to that rule, usually having to

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Speaker 4: deal with diplomats, foreign diplomats and high ministers to a

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Speaker 4: respective country, and in the in the case of foreign occupation,

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Speaker 4: that the law doesn't apply to those individuals. Those individuals,

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Speaker 4: but they're basically for exceptions to to the law. And

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Speaker 4: it really even though you heard the mention of Dred

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Speaker 4: Scott uh the fourteenth Amendments, how it came into formation

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Speaker 4: in the first place in eighteen sixty eight. It was

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Speaker 4: part of what we now know as the sort of

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Speaker 4: reconstruction clauses of the Constitution, and those were the thirteenth, fourteenth,

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Speaker 4: and fifteenth Amendment, giving black folks in this country access

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Speaker 4: to the constitutional guarantees that we were denied at the

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Speaker 4: forming of this country. But it dates back to the

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Speaker 4: early sixteen hundreds, as part of Calvin's case in Great

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Speaker 4: Britain that established that anyone born under the jurisdiction of

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Speaker 4: the king had to be basically obedient and as a

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Speaker 4: subject of the king, regardless again of what their parents

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Speaker 4: did or where they came from. So, although it's been

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Speaker 4: the law of the land for one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: years coming into formation, since the Fourteenth Amendment, it has

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Speaker 4: been the practice of the United States, mostly for white men,

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Speaker 4: but the practice of the United States since before the

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Speaker 4: founding of the United States of America. So this man

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Speaker 4: has the audacity to challenge this constitutional amendment that basically

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Speaker 4: black people are responsible for it having come into formation

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Speaker 4: in the first place. And I just think we are

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Speaker 4: to as a community, really understand the import of this

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Speaker 4: debate today, this week, and in the weeks ahead as

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court sort of deals with this. I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of people are assuming that it's going to

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Speaker 4: go one way. But I thought the same thing about

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Speaker 4: other settled pieces of law, that the court, this court,

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Speaker 4: this conservative court, would go one way, and it ended

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Speaker 4: up going a different one. So let's just pay attention

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Speaker 4: to what's happening here. The Fourteenth Amendment exists because of us,

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Speaker 4: but as affirmed for in future cases, it applies to

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Speaker 4: everybody and anybody born here in the United States. On

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Speaker 4: our soil.

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Speaker 2: And that's just the party. I do think.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you back in into context here, Andrew is important.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, moments after leaving the oral arguments, went to

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Speaker 1: Truth Social Number. By the way, this is the only

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Speaker 1: time in history documented that sitting president attended oral arguments,

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Speaker 1: so that's also a major We can argue that he

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Speaker 1: was there to try to intimidate the justices in some way,

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Speaker 1: but he posted on true Social shortly after leaving, we

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Speaker 1: are the only country in the world stupid enough to

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Speaker 1: allow birthright citizenship. He's wrong. Thirty other countries at least

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Speaker 1: also have birthright citizenship. The other piece that I think

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Speaker 1: is really important here, and I actually want to at

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Speaker 1: least commend John Roberts for this one statement he made.

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Speaker 1: The Solicitor General General was arguing that even though the

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Speaker 1: Framers didn't have in mind, which was John Roberts question,

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Speaker 1: that this is the type of situation that would come

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Speaker 1: up people coming here, you know, falling in love with

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Speaker 1: someone who was already a citizen here and having a child.

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Speaker 1: How do you determine whose parent you know is responsible

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Speaker 1: for the ab and where their citizenship lay. And the

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Speaker 1: Solicitor General sowers says, we're in a new world now,

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Speaker 1: and John Roberts, Chief Justice John Roberts says, back, it's

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Speaker 1: a new world, but it's the same constitution. And so

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Speaker 1: I think there are these interesting pockets where you see

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Speaker 1: their humanity. But to Andrew's point, we are literally one

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision away from the dismantling and the gutting

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Speaker 1: and the wrongful interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment, of any

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Speaker 1: amendment in any single case, in any single case, they

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Speaker 1: could decide not to rely on President. They could they

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Speaker 1: could decide to rely on Court president case President that

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Speaker 1: is not in our favor, right like it ain't always been.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court decision we're talking about dread Scott. Dread

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Speaker 1: Scott is not what established birthright citizenship. It was the

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Speaker 1: case that broke dread Scott's hard enough to cause his

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Speaker 1: death because they did not see him as a citizen,

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Speaker 1: as a human, because he was an enslaved person right property.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Chattle.

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Speaker 8: Can I ask one question though, one of the things,

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Speaker 8: because I think both of you, and Andrew, you highlighted

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Speaker 8: the importance Angela and Andrew gave us the history. But

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Speaker 8: one of the questions we haven't answered for listeners, and

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Speaker 8: I want to see what you three think and and

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Speaker 8: kind of just trim it down is why, you know, what,

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Speaker 8: why are they going through this?

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Speaker 5: Why are they going through this exercise practically?

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Speaker 4: Like why?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to I want bread to be

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Speaker 2: able to wait into.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm a lawyer, but I have been black

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Speaker 7: my whole life.

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Speaker 4: I mean growth up because on the table, I'm.

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Speaker 7: From Saint Louis, which means every the show me state period,

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Speaker 7: y'all know, I put on for Saint Louis. And every

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Speaker 7: MLK day we marched from Pala Symphony Hall to the

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Speaker 7: old Courthouse in downtown Saint Louis where Dread and Herriot

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Speaker 7: Scott stood before or the Missouri State Supreme Court. They

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Speaker 7: were also members of the church that my father later passored,

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Speaker 7: the second oldest church founded by free and enslaved black

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Speaker 7: people in the state of Missouri. And thinking about that history,

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Speaker 7: what is clear to me is that what they told

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Speaker 7: Dread and Hariet about what they thought about their.

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Speaker 6: Dignity and humanity remains true.

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Speaker 7: So they didn't recognize their humanity and their dignity, then

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Speaker 7: they don't. These folks don't have any intent on recognizing

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Speaker 7: our humanity or dignity now, and just because they're using

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Speaker 7: us as the cudgel to try to make their argument

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Speaker 7: doesn't mean that we're safe. And I think it's really

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Speaker 7: really important that those of us who can trace our

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Speaker 7: families back four and five generations on this land don't

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Speaker 7: get comfortable and think that this thing can apply to us,

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Speaker 7: because it absolutely can. I just think that they want

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Speaker 7: the whole thing to themselves. That's just what I think

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Speaker 7: it comes down to.

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Speaker 1: I think brit is right. I do want to just

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Speaker 1: if I can drop in another clip. We have a

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Speaker 1: dissenter in chief in this Spreme Court. Her name is

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Speaker 1: Katanji Brown Jackson, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, and today she

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Speaker 1: demonstrates I think a great in her questioning Bikari an

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Speaker 1: answer suggested answer to your why, let's row that.

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Speaker 10: Did I understand you to say that domicile is going

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Speaker 10: to be eventually or is controlled by Congress? Who is domiciled?

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Speaker 10: I'm struggling to figure out who is domiciled in your argument.

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Speaker 11: The domiciliaries are people who are lawfully present and have

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Speaker 11: an intent to remain permanently. So that's the kind of

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Speaker 11: black letter understanding of domicile. Now, Congress can't dictate that

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Speaker 11: certain classes of people legal entrance and so forth cannot

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Speaker 11: lawfully lack of legal capacity to form a legally binding doctor.

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Speaker 6: Is that so?

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Speaker 10: Then doesn't it make the domicile for the purpose of

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Speaker 10: the Fourteenth Amendment turned then ultimately on Congress's will in

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Speaker 10: a way that the Framers did not intend. I mean,

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Speaker 10: my understanding was the Framers put this citizenship clause into

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Speaker 10: the Constitution to prevent future Congresses from being able to

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Speaker 10: affect citizenship in this way.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 11: Very briefly, no, I don't think so, because it is

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Speaker 11: up to the alien whether or not they want to

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Speaker 11: be domiciled here. Now there may be.

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Speaker 10: Complect because said Congress can make determinations as to who

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Speaker 10: counts as being domiciled here. So that's true, Then it

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Speaker 10: ultimately would impact in your theory whether or not this

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Speaker 10: person can claim that they have citizenship for Fourteenth Amendment

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Speaker 10: purposes based on Congress's determination. And I just thought that's

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Speaker 10: what the fourteenth Amendment was trying to get away from.

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Speaker 11: Yes, very briefly, I just point you to the discussion

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Speaker 11: in Professor Worman's and make us brief where he talks

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Speaker 11: about this is not a new problem, going back even

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Speaker 11: to the British Common Law, there's a situation of people

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Speaker 11: who lack a safe conduct and are passing through the

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Speaker 11: King's domains without permission, and he says, the best reading

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Speaker 11: of the common laws, they are not in the protection

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Speaker 11: of the King, and they're not covered by their royal

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Speaker 11: birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 4: I sink through. He's been real colorful with the language there.

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Speaker 4: But I will tell you, first of all, I'll say

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Speaker 4: Justice Jackson and I would add to that Justice Soto

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Speaker 4: Mayor both have a way of making the High Court

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Speaker 4: accessible in their questions and the way in which they

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Speaker 4: summarize their questions. As a non lawyer, I feel like

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Speaker 4: I can access what it is that they're trying to

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Speaker 4: say and what the crux of the argument is about.

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Speaker 4: To Bakari's question, because I think it really it's a

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Speaker 4: great one, and it's one that we all ought to consider,

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Speaker 4: Like why now, why after terms, before the founding of

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Speaker 4: this nation, does it decide under Trump and his stooges

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Speaker 4: to redefine who a US citizen is. And although a

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Speaker 4: lot of us may think that this thing is powered

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Speaker 4: by the immigration of Latin Americans. I think into the US,

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Speaker 4: that's who they like to use as today's sort of boogeyman.

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Speaker 4: I think it has everything to do with what surfaces

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Speaker 4: in Donald Trump's voice. Every time he has the opportunity

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Speaker 4: to talk about the kinds of people he believes ought

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Speaker 4: to be in the United States, he talks about people

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Speaker 4: from shithole countries, places that we don't want.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: He talks about South America at the whole continent of Africa.

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Speaker 4: To forgive him, he doesn't know the demographic diversity that

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Speaker 4: exists on the continent, but but whatever be that as

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Speaker 4: it may. And then when he talks about Europe, he

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Speaker 4: talks about Europe you losing its authenticity, its identity because

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Speaker 4: of the immigration of brown people. So lets none of

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Speaker 4: us get it confused that what this thing is about

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Speaker 4: isn't just about Latin American immigration in this country. They

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Speaker 4: wish to reverse the wheels of immigrants, of of of

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Speaker 4: the census of this country going forward. They know that

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Speaker 4: white folks have a lower birth rate than any other group.

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Speaker 4: They know that the browning of America is real, that

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Speaker 4: is here, and that it will increase, And so to

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Speaker 4: preserve their power they believe they need a more eurocentric

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Speaker 4: United States of America. This is this is based in

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Speaker 4: racism as the origination here, as was the Fourteenth Amendment

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Speaker 4: which saved us from it, as was the Southern State

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Speaker 4: then implementing their own discriminatory laws after the Fourteenth Amendment

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Speaker 4: to keep US from accessing power. So they're not talking

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Speaker 4: about black people. They're not name checking us right now

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Speaker 4: as the problem. They're using us and escapegoading us as

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Speaker 4: part of the solution through the Fourteenth Amendment on this argument.

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Speaker 4: But don't get it twisted. They see US as big

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Speaker 4: a threat as they see Latin American immigration. They don't

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Speaker 4: want us counted in the census, and they don't want

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Speaker 4: us being the majority. Ultimately, I think this is about

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Speaker 4: what you hear Donald Trump say, which is he wants

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Speaker 4: a wider America and he wants an America that brings

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Speaker 4: people in from European country who are also just European

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Speaker 4: and Dutch.

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Speaker 6: People from South Africa.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget, they gone back.

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Speaker 5: They don't even like it here. They all said they

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Speaker 5: going back.

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Speaker 2: They said this is a way.

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Speaker 5: They said, we want to be in the ghetto.

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Speaker 8: I think that you know, just Summarily, it's two things,

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Speaker 8: and I think Andrew hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's about power, and it's about fear.

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Speaker 8: It's the fear of losing what they believe to be theirs,

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Speaker 8: the browning of America, this inability to understand Angela rise

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Speaker 8: phrase that this joint for free right and uh not

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Speaker 8: acknowledging that the equity of of of what diversity has

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Speaker 8: put into this country, not recognizing those contributions. And I

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Speaker 8: think lastly, it's about just not valuing diversity. You know,

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Speaker 8: that power, that that power talking point is so real

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Speaker 8: because it comes down to elections. They see them so

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Speaker 8: of having a better opportunity winning an election, maintaining power

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Speaker 8: with the fewer black and brown folk in this country, period, point.

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Speaker 4: Blank, fullstop.

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Speaker 8: And I honestly don't think that Donald Trump. I find

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Speaker 8: him to be a useful idiot for those of it,

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Speaker 8: those individuals who are around him, because I think that

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Speaker 8: we don't We talk about it a lot, but the

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Speaker 8: stephen Millers and the Bannons of the world are the

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Speaker 8: ones who are orchestrating this.

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Speaker 4: And then the.

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Speaker 8: Sad part is the the Cassidys and the Cottons of

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Speaker 8: the world, the Hallys of the world, the Dvanceas of

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Speaker 8: the world, don't have the testicular fortitude to be able

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Speaker 8: to rise up to this case, this occasion and actually

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Speaker 8: recognize what America is and or her value.

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Speaker 5: So I think power and I think fear are witsdriving this.

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Speaker 7: That mean fear is a tool for power though, right,

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Speaker 7: fear is how you maintain power. I say this all

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Speaker 7: the time, and I teach on this every single conflict

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Speaker 7: in the West, in America, in particular, in white dominant culture,

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Speaker 7: comes down to the desire to hoard power. White dominant

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Speaker 7: culture teaches us that power is a pie and there

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Speaker 7: are only so many slices to go around. The idea

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Speaker 7: that we are all born with innate power and it

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Speaker 7: is therefore abundant, and we can share it and all

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Speaker 7: be better when we share it is foreign to a

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Speaker 7: white the ideology of whiteness, right, it is it is

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Speaker 7: natural to our communities. It is foreign to them. So

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Speaker 7: they're going to maintain power through by any means necessary

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Speaker 7: and at all costs, which means stoking fear, which means

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Speaker 7: stoking violence very intentionally, right, because that's always a tool

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Speaker 7: of power.

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Speaker 6: Because they mean to.

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Speaker 7: They intend to ensure that they don't share power with

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Speaker 7: anybody but themselves. And if there are wealthy people of

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Speaker 7: color who think they gonna get it in on a pie,

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Speaker 7: they are sadly mistaken.

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Speaker 1: You know, Macary said a really important phrase moments ago.

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Speaker 1: They used the word the ghetto, and that is how

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Speaker 1: I felt all weekend, because it feels like the ghetto here.

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Speaker 1: My girls planned a whole trip to go see the

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Speaker 1: iconic tour, which would include Salt and Peppa TLC and

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Speaker 1: in Vogue and Chili.

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Speaker 2: Of TLC.

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Speaker 1: Was was bound to God, who I also heard was

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Speaker 1: her friend.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's true.

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Speaker 1: We won't ask her to confirm nor deny, because when

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Speaker 1: she confirms nor denies, it turns out it's not always

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Speaker 1: actual and factual.

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Speaker 2: To use a TLC.

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Speaker 1: All I would like to say in this moment is

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Speaker 1: that we should let her speak for herself. This is

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Speaker 1: a long, meandering video explaining her reposting a Michelle Obama

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Speaker 1: clip which I'll say I might surprise you on the

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Speaker 1: other side of it, and then her written statement. So

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Speaker 1: let's get into those two things, and then Nick Cannon,

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Speaker 1: we got you next, buddy, especially because you didn't text

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Speaker 1: me back Chili.

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I wanted to come on here to address

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Speaker 9: a few things that's circulating on the internet that's very

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Speaker 9: concerning to me. Let me say this first. I have

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Speaker 9: the utmost respect and admiration for Michelle Obama, and I

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Speaker 9: would never say or do anything that is disrespectful to

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Speaker 9: her or to any woman. I would never do that.

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Speaker 9: And I had no clue that this repulse had happened

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Speaker 9: until I started getting phone calls and text messages from everybody.

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Speaker 9: And I immediately went to my page to see what

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Speaker 9: was going on. Now, mind you, I'm not very computer savvy,

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Speaker 9: so I'm looking for this repost button, and I see

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Speaker 9: that all of them, all of these buttons are very

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Speaker 9: very close to each other, and clearly I was scrolling

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Speaker 9: and my thumb hit the repost button. Again, I had

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Speaker 9: no clue that something like this happened until I got

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Speaker 9: all the calls. But of course I took that down,

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Speaker 9: and you know, I would never post anything like that.

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Speaker 9: I would never do something like that. That is not

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Speaker 9: my character. I have supported the Obamas, I gave to

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Speaker 9: the campaign both runs, voted twice for him, and supported

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Speaker 9: the organization that Michelle had in the schools for exercise

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Speaker 9: for the kids.

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Speaker 6: I would never.

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Speaker 9: Do any thing that's harmful or hateful to anybody, you know.

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Speaker 9: I am just not wired like that, that is, that's

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Speaker 9: just not who I am. And when it comes to

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Speaker 9: organizations that I have donated to, these are the things

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Speaker 9: that support the veterans. You know. I have always supported them,

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Speaker 9: not just now, but for years. This is not something new.

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Speaker 9: So I just wanted to let you guys know. You

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Speaker 9: know this from me. You know that I would never

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Speaker 9: do anything so disrespectful, and I would just never I'm

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Speaker 9: just not about hate or anything like that. You know.

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Speaker 9: If you look on my page and see my post,

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Speaker 9: It's all about love, faith and connection. That's what I'm

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Speaker 9: all about, you know. And I've always been that way

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Speaker 9: and I will continue to be just that way. So

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Speaker 9: I just want to thank you guys for you know,

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Speaker 9: your love and your support and just taking the time

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Speaker 9: to listen to me right now.

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Speaker 2: I really really.

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Speaker 9: Appreciate that, and I love you guys. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: So not such shots fired at the end of the

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Speaker 1: TMZ clip that we can, but to go ahead, Bakari,

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Speaker 1: before we get into what you're going to say, let's

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Speaker 1: just post her statement up so we can read that

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Speaker 1: as well, because that video addressed the Michelle Obama piece,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't really address the donation. So she says,

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Speaker 1: I want to be clear. I am not MAGA and

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Speaker 1: do not support any of the many policies that are

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Speaker 1: causing great harm to the American people. I made a mistake,

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Speaker 1: too many make. I did not read the fine print.

880
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: I thought I was supporting causes against human trafficking and

881
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: four veterans, two things I care deeply about as my

882
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: dad is a veteran and everyone knows I love children.

883
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: I have learned a valuable lesson and asked for grace

884
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: as I navigate this now. Bakari, I do want to

885
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: hear from you, but I just want to say one

886
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: thing is someone who actually likes to manage crises. The

887
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: first rule here is you cannot lie. Once you have

888
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: been targeted and people have like they're focusing on you,

889
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: they're going to go dig through everything. So you say

890
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: that you didn't know that your contributions were to political entities,

891
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: but in your video you said you donated to the

892
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: Barack Obama campaign several times, so you do know how

893
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: to donate politically.

894
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: That's one.

895
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 6: Two.

896
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: They're likely not to just look at your FEC filings

897
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four. They're likely to go back to

898
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty to eighteen to sixteen to see

899
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: where you donated. People are likely to pull your voter

900
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: registration records. Now, to be fair to her, somebody did

901
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: pull her voter registration records. They had her labeled as

902
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: a Republican. That's not actually how it looks. I went

903
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: to look for myself. But I also would advise someone,

904
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: if they were a client, that you need to be

905
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: mindful that people will also check who you follow and

906
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: what posts you've liked, even if you did not share

907
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: said posts. So some of the posts she liked from

908
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: Byron Donald's page. She's not as political, but she's following

909
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: a member of Congress from Florida. She lives in Georgia

910
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: and Stone Mountain, Georgia. Look, I don't really care what

911
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: AOC has to say, is one of the posts. Congratulations

912
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: to Florida's own Marco Rubio on receiving a unanimous Senate confirmation.

913
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: The time for weakness is over, the time for indecision

914
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: is over, the time for appeasement is over. Thank you

915
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: real Donald Trump. Under your leadership, we are entering the

916
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: golden age of America. The best is yet to come.

917
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: She likes a post where it says, if you allow

918
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 1: the neighborhood children into your house and they start breaking stuff,

919
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: do you let them stay? That's a post about immigration.

920
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: She likes a post of Pete Hegseth, who has single

921
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: handedly been violently detrimental to black women around DEI, and

922
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: she liked his confirmation posts where jd Vance is swearing

923
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: in Pete Hegseth. That's just a few of what I found,

924
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: and so I yield the Flooria to my mind.

925
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 7: Don't forget. Is reportedly audio of Tea Boys on a

926
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 7: previous radio show several years ago saying, and I quote

927
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 7: my bandmate voted for him as the team was talking

928
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 7: about Trump, and that can only be about one person.

929
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, because yeah, yeah, Well I was just gonna say,

930
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 8: I'm not disappointed. I think some of y'all may be disappointed,

931
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 8: but I'm not really that disappointed. I kind of say that,

932
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 8: you know, when people open their mouth, you find out

933
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 8: a lot about them, and they who they pile around with,

934
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 8: and how they think they might be a little different.

935
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 8: And you know, they sell one thing to our community

936
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 8: and then they go out and do another. So you

937
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 8: know that ignorance, which is what it is, I think

938
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 8: is more pervasive than we give it credit for. And

939
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 8: I must say this that a lot of times black

940
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 8: men get targeted because of some of those strands of

941
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 8: weird conservatism that we have running through our community, some

942
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 8: of the things we saw during the during the twenty

943
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 8: twenty four and twenty twenty campaign as well. But I

944
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 8: think it's more pervasive than we would give it credit for.

945
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 8: And I think that's the sad.

946
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 4: Partly clearly, I mean, and that's evident in some of

947
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: the outcomes of the elections where we thought it was

948
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 4: gonna go one way and it ultimately went another. I guess, well,

949
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 4: she is entitled to believe whatever she wants to believe

950
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: and to support whomever she wants to support. My confusion

951
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 4: comes in when you backtrack and you don't own up

952
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: to your shit. So if you believe, if say, for instance,

953
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 4: faith is your reason that draws you nearer, I cannot imagine.

954
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: But that's just me and my brain, and I'm limited

955
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 4: how that would enure you closer to the policies of

956
00:51:52,200 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 4: a Donald Trump or Keith Keg's breath, or or frankly

957
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 4: anything that is emanating from the Republican Party right now,

958
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: because they are a walking contradiction of any faith legitimate

959
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: that I know of, not that I don't know of

960
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 4: one on earth that they are representative of from a

961
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 4: belief system, and and as expressed to their actions, this

962
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: man just praying for more deaths to be rained down

963
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: on innocent people. Right So, I'm talking about Hagg's breath,

964
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: that that that that you like, Chili. I just think

965
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 4: if you're gonna believe that, then double down in it.

966
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 4: But if you what you what you're trying to sell

967
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: me is I'm not very tech savvy, and so that's

968
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: why I stay off the internets. I ain't so savvy either,

969
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: but I don't be on there trying to you know,

970
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: fake like I am. But the point that you make

971
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 4: one mistake, I think you know we can't get with that.

972
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: Maybe two. But now you've got multiple instances of you

973
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 4: liking this strand of thinking and acting. Now you giving

974
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: a grand ain't lightweight.

975
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: And and giving to nine dollars just to either.

976
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 4: Way, nine hundred dollars ain't lightweight and give I mean

977
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: big weight.

978
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 5: For me.

979
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 4: Was a woman given twenty dollars a month, right for

980
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 4: the duration of a year. That was big. So all

981
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 4: I'm saying is you want us to buy a couple.

982
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 4: You know, a few mistakes, that's one thing. But now

983
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 4: your actions are not turning into your habits. And so

984
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 4: don't be shocked when we start to assess you for

985
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 4: what are now your habits, which you are entitled to.

986
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: But if you're gonna, if you're gonna do the thing,

987
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: they own the thing say I'm there, and I'm there

988
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: for this reason. What I really feel, y'all is that

989
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: I've heard some of the background stories of a number

990
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 4: of those women who are part of this tour and

991
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 4: how the struggle has been real as the decades have

992
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 4: gone by, as new artists have come online, and all

993
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: of us understand how that works, the fact that they

994
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 4: are you know, I just Jay and I just went

995
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 4: to the new edition and voiced the men and and

996
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: and Tony Tony Braxton h a concert and you know

997
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 4: it was great, powerful voices. I loved the love that

998
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 4: was in the room. You know, for them, they didn't

999
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 4: have to Bobby Brown didn't have to move his legs

1000
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 4: two times before. Folks were shotting like dot the mos. Yes,

1001
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 4: I mean it was around me. Yeah, it was. Oh

1002
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: my gosh. And you're looking at it side by side

1003
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 4: with the video from like when he originally.

1004
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 2: Did it, and do it Andrew.

1005
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 4: But we're so loving, We're like, oh boy, he is up.

1006
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: He dropped it. I'm like, drop way he dropped off

1007
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 4: the stage Andrew at any point he wanted to because

1008
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 4: he's left tired. I'm walking off and I'll be gone nice.

1009
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 4: But but but the point is that, like we got

1010
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 4: mad love for these folks and I and I know

1011
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: that the struggle is real there, and the same is true.

1012
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: I've heard about many of the NVOGUE members and you know,

1013
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 4: living out of the you know your car and that

1014
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 4: kind of thing. I want so badly for their their

1015
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 4: work to be properly recognized, celebrated, and for them to

1016
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 4: get the kind of win that they need from that.

1017
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 4: And I fear, Chile that your repeated mistakes, which have

1018
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 4: now become not just mistakes but rather habit, which then

1019
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 4: tell us who you are at least some of who

1020
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: you are, may have an impact there. And I would

1021
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 4: just adminded. I would just ask the folks out there,

1022
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 4: there are ways in which we can we can we

1023
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: can lift up our disdain and our rejection and our

1024
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 4: rebuff of of of her beliefs, and how we are

1025
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 4: harmed by it, particularly in our community, while not punishing

1026
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 4: the overwhelming majority of those women who highly skilled, have

1027
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 4: always loved in our community, who are in a position

1028
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 4: now to receive love again from us.

1029
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 5: So let's give it.

1030
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna yield to brit I lost this vote,

1031
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: andrew your your petition is the one that I levied

1032
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: with the girls.

1033
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: I have lost the machetes. I am the lone soldier

1034
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: saying you were holding out.

1035
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 7: I want to say you you stood on Democracy ten

1036
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 7: totally down and I part of me wants to be

1037
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 7: able to just go and enjoy. But I am absolutely disappointed.

1038
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 7: And I'm disappointed in part because I grew up on

1039
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 7: TLC so A. I had some late summer plans with

1040
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 7: my machety girls, right we were gonna go get down.

1041
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 7: I couldn't go to the last concert with y'a because

1042
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 7: I had to work, so I was like, this is

1043
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 7: my makeup time.

1044
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 6: I was trying to shake some mass.

1045
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 7: To creep like I had plants and then here you

1046
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 7: go messing them up, right, So like, I'm disappointed personally,

1047
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 7: but I'm also disappointed because growing up on TLC, they

1048
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 7: were cutting edge. They were the first folks talking about

1049
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 7: safe sex, when they were talking about affirming queer people,

1050
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 7: they were talking about suicide and body image. Like you know,

1051
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 7: I'm thinking about waterfalls and all of the warnings that

1052
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 7: we tried to heed from them, right from not chasing

1053
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 7: the waterfalls to not dating no scrubs like they were

1054
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 7: supposed to be empowerment for the rest of us who

1055
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 7: Trump can't stand. So for this it's turn of face

1056
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 7: to happen. Yeah, I'm disappointed. I feel betrayed.

1057
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 5: Or did we just not know her?

1058
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 7: Maybe we didn't know her and I maybe changed. I

1059
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 7: do miss the time and we didn't know everything.

1060
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 4: About it.

1061
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: Easier to enjoy the art.

1062
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 7: But now that we do know when my mama always says, well,

1063
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 7: you know better, you got to do better, and she's

1064
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 7: around too many people who can help her know better

1065
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 7: to not be doing better. And I think that there's

1066
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 7: a there's a like there's a sense of betrayal a

1067
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 7: because black women are like we the ninety two percent.

1068
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 7: We still some of us are plenty confused about why

1069
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 7: the a percent even exists. But two, I'm not disappointed

1070
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 7: in Nick Cannon because Nick Cannon is who he's shown

1071
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 7: himself to be for several years now. So like there's

1072
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 7: a different I have a different response to him.

1073
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 6: That's right, Yeah, let's do it.

1074
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 7: Uh.

1075
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: Part of the Republican Party.

1076
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 6: Uh huh, that's right.

1077
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 12: A former Democrat, former liberal, A liberal Democrat.

1078
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: My whole life is that because.

1079
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 18: The bag has got so intense and so heavy.

1080
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 6: That you had a whole nother you up there with

1081
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 6: the elite.

1082
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: Now not even close, not even close.

1083
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 12: Democrats don't care about black people, and they don't care about.

1084
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 2: People, They don't care about people of color.

1085
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 12: And the Republicans do. And that's the misconcession.

1086
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 6: And you know what, I agree with you.

1087
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: One, people don't know that the Democrats is the party

1088
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 4: of the KKKA.

1089
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 19: People don't know that the Republicans.

1090
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: Are the party that freed the slaves.

1091
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean most of you and I have some

1092
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 4: conservative views.

1093
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 6: You're just a little bit more outspoken about.

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Speaker 4: It than I am. And I honestly I don't subscribe

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Speaker 4: to neither party.

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Speaker 18: I'll rock with W. E. D.

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Speaker 4: The voice when he said there's no such thing as

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Speaker 4: two parties, as just one evil party with two different names.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, I mean, look, I listen, I'm not married

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Speaker 12: to any party, right. I voted for Donald Trump because

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00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 12: he's we had two options and he was definitely, by

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00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 12: far the better option for us, And as of now,

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Speaker 12: I agree with a lot of things that he's doing.

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Speaker 2: But what was Guess what?

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Speaker 12: If there's a time where I don't agree, I'll say

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Speaker 12: I don't agree.

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Speaker 6: I'm got the Gulf of America.

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00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 7: Now, the charging even like the club you charging on

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00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 7: five million dollar bottle service.

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Speaker 5: Feed to get into the country.

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Speaker 12: Listen, but guess what?

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 16: No?

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00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 5: Really quickly, really quick? Oh I'm sorry no, But I.

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Speaker 8: Mean, like like that type of ignorance, it breeds, It

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00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 8: breeds two questions like one, where along the line do

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00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 8: you have to spend your time and treasure? Which none,

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00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 8: none of the four of us have a great deal

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00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 8: of time. I tell people the most two valuable things

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Speaker 8: I have in this world or relationships, because I feel

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Speaker 8: like I can call them any of you three and

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00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 8: you probably won't pick up the phone. But at least

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00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 8: it makes me feel good to know that I can

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Speaker 8: call you right and that you know time and relationships

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Speaker 8: are the most important thing. And so when do I

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01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 8: have to sit down with someone like Nick Cannon and

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01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 8: educate him on what happened in nineteen forty eight when

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01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 8: Dixiecrats broke away from the Democratic Party because of our

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Speaker 8: stances on realignment, because of our stance on civil rights

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Speaker 8: right and led by Strong Thurman, they believed in segregation

1130
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Speaker 8: and states rights. They joined what is now the modern

1131
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 8: day Republican Party, and you had a complete realignment. So

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Speaker 8: everything you said was utter bullshit. I'm sorry to curse

1133
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 8: because I know your mama's listening to the show, Brittany.

1134
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 15: But.

1135
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Speaker 6: And you know she loves you. She's like not Pakari.

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Speaker 2: Headphones.

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Speaker 7: The thing that irks me is that these free thinking

1138
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 7: folks are so disrespectful. Did they think that they know

1139
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 7: betterrand mama's, they mama's, they daddy's, they uncles, all these

1140
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 7: black folks who have also read books, who have also

1141
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 7: studied history, who can also quote the great scholars of

1142
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 7: African American history, like the disrespect that it takes to

1143
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 7: think that you have become enlightened to something that the

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Speaker 7: rest of us are ignorant to while we're all actively

1145
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 7: being harmed by the people you're propping up, and you

1146
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 7: just don't feel it as badly because you're famous and rich.

1147
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 7: As wild to me, if somebody didn't get popped in

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Speaker 7: the mouth enough when they were.

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Speaker 5: I believe I can I ask you guys a question

1150
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 5: because the way you.

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Speaker 1: Do that, because you're going to have us down a

1152
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: different land. Let me just say this about Nick Nick

1153
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: is I consider Nick a friend.

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Speaker 2: I think that especially when he was at Howard, I found.

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Speaker 5: Him fault, no.

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Speaker 4: Job.

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01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 6: He didn't respond to he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Respond to my text, And I think for me, I

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: give people the benefit of you know, tell me why

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01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: I should vote, and you have that conversation. It's a

1161
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: conversation we've had actually on air on his podcast. What

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01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: I think what surprised me here is is not that

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel beholden to either parties. I think most

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01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: of us, most of our people, in some way don't

1165
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: feel beholden to either party.

1166
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: Feel very much.

1167
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: As much as Bikari might have some disdain about this,

1168
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: it is the lesser to evils on policy.

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Speaker 2: In a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: There are Democrats right now having conversations about whether or

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01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: not DEI was the right path for us to take.

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01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: We have to be honest about that.

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01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that we should over romanticize the relationship

1174
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: between the black community and the Democratic Party. Nonetheless, we

1175
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: ain't dummies. Were not about to be supporting the party

1176
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Speaker 1: that's questioning the fourteenth Amendment. We're not about to go

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Speaker 1: We know how hard fought. If you watch what Fanny

1178
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: Lieulhammer says about what they had to do to vote,

1179
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: the beatings, the threat like Medgar Evers being killed in

1180
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Speaker 1: his driveway, Like we know what had to happen to

1181
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: force the Democratic Party towards righteousness.

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Speaker 2: That was our work. I mean, like that's the part

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01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: for me, Like I.

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01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: Don't want you to be I'm so provocative that you

1185
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: lose your footing on intellectualism and and being and facts

1186
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: just facts. You ain't even got to be smart, just facts.

1187
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: Just check your facts. And I think you know, even

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01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: when he cites w e B, I love.

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Speaker 2: W e B. But he was very practical and pragmatic.

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Speaker 1: I don't see anywhere where he tells us not to

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01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: vote or don't participate in the system that is going

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01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: to be making decisions about our lives and whether or

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01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: not we can thrive like that is not the message.

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01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: And the other thing is, I will say this, I

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: think that that whole rhetoric in that car ride was

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01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: as reckless as them too.

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Speaker 2: Niggas not even have a seatbelts on.

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Speaker 4: Well, well at least with their no seat belts, their

1199
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Speaker 4: lives is in their hands. The the the the other

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01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 4: stuff is they're using their influence to pedal uh. You

1201
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 4: know people. The problem is that I keep hearing these

1202
01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 4: lines repeated. Everybody want to talk about Abraham Lincoln. Everybody

1203
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: want to talk about what the Democrats in the sixties

1204
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 4: data without can y'all just read the book to this conclusion?

1205
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 4: Just just just complete more than that sentence. Just read

1206
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 4: a little bit further so that you have an understanding

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01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 4: that's grounded in something that's real.

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Speaker 1: That's every way you say, you say you stopped that

1209
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: chapter five, it's twenty five.

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Speaker 4: You just stop that line too. Just get to the

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Speaker 4: end of that.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: It's easier to copy and paste the topics that process.

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Speaker 4: It's easy to do that, but it's cheap. It's also

1215
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Speaker 4: low grow. I'm not acting for intellectualism. I really am not,

1216
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 4: not at all, I'm just asking for self preservation. Just

1217
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 4: think about you, your family, your condition, how you grew up.

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01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 4: But my reframe and I said this about fifty cent

1219
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 4: when we were talking about well, why would he better

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01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 4: guess what these people and their proximity to power is

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01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 4: different than mine. Their resource either has diluted them into

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01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 4: or that it has demonstrated enough that they can get

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 4: them into some places where who they have to consider,

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 4: what they have to consider, what they need to be

1225
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 4: standing up for, and what they need to be staying

1226
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 4: silent on has shifted so to I don't want I

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01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 4: no longer believe skin folk is skin folks. I no

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 4: longer believe that at the end of the day we

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Speaker 4: will all have some fidelity to the fact that our

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 4: people struggled, did this, lost this, did this sacrifice in

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01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 4: this way first generation. This is now a common uniting frame.

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01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 4: They are now divorced from our historical and even recent

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 4: experience because their reality has changed, and quite frankly, they

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01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 4: can only be counted upon for what I would normally

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Speaker 4: ascribe to white folks by and large, which is that

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Speaker 4: they have the power and they are committed to keeping it.

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01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 4: And so these folks believe they got a shred and

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Speaker 4: they're committed to keeping it.

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Speaker 8: I don't believe in canceling people. I think cancelation is

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01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 8: the dumbest thing on earth. I do believe in consequence though.

1241
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 8: I think that people, people, there are consequences for your actions.

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Speaker 17: But I don't.

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01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 8: Believe that we have the ability to like erase people

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01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 8: from our lives.

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Speaker 5: Whatever. That's my own personal permanybody, but yeah, that's my Does.

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Speaker 8: It matter though, because I've always come come, and I

1247
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 8: said this yesterday on our call, but I've always come

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Speaker 8: from the opinion that with greater talent comes more tolerance. Right,

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 8: you see, you see you see people who excel. I mean,

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01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 8: you see people who excel at something, they say something,

1251
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 8: they stay around the team. As soon as the person

1252
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 8: who can play like that say something just like what

1253
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 8: he says, they cut.

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Speaker 5: They on the next flight out Right.

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Speaker 8: I'm not necessarily talking about Jada and I because he's

1256
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Speaker 8: actually going through a mental crisis. So I'm trying to

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Speaker 8: I'm refraining from and I love Nell, so I don't

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Speaker 8: want to. I don't want to cast any aspersions on

1259
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Speaker 8: what she's going in right now with with Jada, But

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Speaker 8: I will tell you that that I do believe whether

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01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 8: or not it's art, entertainment, sport, culture, when people, when

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 8: people have greater talent, we give them more runway. So

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01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 8: does it matter that these people have these platforms? Does

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01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 8: it matter that they are an extremely attractive trio? The

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01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 8: last I mean, Chili's fifty five years old. She was

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01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 8: gorgeous even at fifty five. You know, amber Rose is

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01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 8: a type to certain people. Nick Nick Cannon got thirty

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01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 8: seven beautiful baby mamas like, but does it matter? Does

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01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 8: it matter in culture? And as we're having these debates

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01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 8: one you know that does talent mean that we need

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01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 8: to treat these people any differently than we would treat others?

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Speaker 5: That's my question.

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01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 4: You know when they entered the lane that they probably

1274
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 4: should stay out, I mean.

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Speaker 5: And shut up and dribble.

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01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 4: If you're not, if you don't want be held accountable

1277
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 4: for waylaying your way into an area of which you

1278
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 4: have no uh a reasonable set of knowledge, skill, perspective,

1279
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 4: ideology practice meaning you don't vote, then do what you do,

1280
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 4: and then you don't have to worry about folks coming

1281
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,439
Speaker 4: down on you for saying stupid ass shit.

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Speaker 1: I just I think my question here is twofold one

1283
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: is we're a little over an hour into the show.

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01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 2: I know he had one nose. You're fine.

1285
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: We have one set of issues we were planning to

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01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: talk about on the mini pod, but I'm actually gonna

1287
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: ask if we would consider expanding this conversation to the

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01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: mini pod, because we spend a lot of time focusing

1289
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: on the accountability of what an entertainer might say. But

1290
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: what I really want to do is try to turn

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01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: this into us like an internal reflection for ourselves because

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: we want to Some people want to cancel, some people

1293
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: want to openly rebuke record a video talking about these folks.

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01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: But my question really is, like what passes do we

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01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: give ourselves for the brands that we continue to support

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01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: despite their endorsement whole throated, full throated endorsement of Donald

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01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: Trump or his policies or their donations. But we give

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01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: ourselves a pass? What is the barometer release?

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Speaker 16: Ye?

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01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: No, and I think it's a good one. I think

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: it's going to take longer than what we should have

1302
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: on the show, And so we.

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01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: Can invite keeping Guy.

1304
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about Drew Ski another time. Drew Skill

1305
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: come out with another great skit for us to run.

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01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: But we're going to do this. I do want to

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Speaker 2: end here.

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01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: In this conversation here so we can get to see

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Speaker 1: tas with this Malcolm X clip. Who you know, because

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Speaker 1: we study history in here, not just till chapter five

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Speaker 1: andrew all the way through Project twenty twenty five. He

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Speaker 1: just runs us back to something that we've seen before

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Speaker 1: and we're seeing right now.

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Speaker 2: Let's run it.

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Speaker 19: Medians, comics, trumpet players, baseball players. Show me in the

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Speaker 19: white community, where a comedian is a white leader. Show

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Speaker 19: me in the white community where our singer is a

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Speaker 19: white leader, or a dancer or a trumpet player is

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Speaker 19: a white leader. These aren't leaders. These are puppets and

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Speaker 19: clowns that have been set up over the white community

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Speaker 19: and are over the black community by the white unity,

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Speaker 19: and have been made celebrities and usually say exactly what

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Speaker 19: they know that the white man wants to hear.

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Speaker 4: You aren't gonna buy Sammy Davis Junior by inviting him

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Speaker 4: to the lighthouse, shouldn't buy him by doing something for America.

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Speaker 1: And of course at the end of this Malcolm X clip.

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Speaker 1: Throughout there are quotes from w E B. D Boys,

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Speaker 1: the accurate quotes of w EB the Boys as well

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Speaker 1: as from Lanston Hughes, and there is an image of

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Speaker 1: Sammy Davis Junior hugging Richard Nixon from the back very lovingly,

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Speaker 1: and so with that calls to action family.

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Speaker 4: His endorsement of Nixon left a scar on him that

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Speaker 4: he will wear it to his grave. Is what I

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Speaker 4: saw from Sammy Davis is that the quote I think

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Speaker 4: maybe he did. I just wanted to say, for those

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Speaker 4: who are on the listening side, oh say it aloud.

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Speaker 2: I can't read on them quotes that quick. Thank you Andrew, who.

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Speaker 18: Cares about truth in the last morning seen it.

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Speaker 8: I just think that we should during this time of chaos,

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Speaker 8: because that's what you did a great job Angela hosting today,

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Speaker 8: because it's it's kind of like drinking out of a

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Speaker 8: fire hose, and it's just so much that comes. So

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Speaker 8: I want people to practice more meditation. I want people

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01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 8: to take their shoes off and let their feet touch

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 8: the grass. I want people to go outside and like

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01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 8: sniff flowers and eat fresh fruits. I just think that

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Speaker 8: it's so much going on that we need to make

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Speaker 8: sure that we're mentally, physically and emotionally healthy to undertake

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 8: the trauma that is coming our way because Andrew likes

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Speaker 8: to say that the only way that we overcome this

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Speaker 8: is with people, and they are trying to beat us down,

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Speaker 8: and so we need to make sure that our people

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Speaker 8: are healthy enough to fight back.

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Speaker 2: What you got, hosts me, I'm away to the end.

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Speaker 4: No, I was. I was talking about misspac Nick Cunningham.

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Speaker 6: Miss Pacietti over here.

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Speaker 7: Well, besides the call to action, to go vote on

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Speaker 7: the webbies so Undistracted can win one of these two webbies,

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Speaker 7: and to subscribe to Undistracted wherever you get your podcasts

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Speaker 7: and on YouTube, because we're coming to YouTube now for

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Speaker 7: this is for.

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Speaker 6: I just really want us.

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Speaker 7: To find community. I think what Bakari said is so important.

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 7: There is no way we're going to get through this

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01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 7: without each other, and we're turning to our roots and

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Speaker 7: the ways that we upheld, educated and supported one another,

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01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 7: that we restored when folks were out of order and

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Speaker 7: lovingly corrected, and the ways that we held one another

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Speaker 7: to account so that we could be there for community.

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Speaker 7: That's what's gonna take in this time. I think often

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Speaker 7: about that song that will read the saying so famously

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01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 7: but that we know get sung in churches, Black churches

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01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 7: all across the country about how I got over and

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01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 7: the only way we're gonna get over is by being

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Speaker 7: in touch with our creator and being in touch with

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Speaker 7: each other.

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Speaker 4: I love that. I love both of those. I know

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Speaker 4: that No King's protests with this past week weekend for

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Speaker 4: a lot of folks, you know, shout outs to you

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Speaker 4: if you participated, Shout outs to you if you were

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01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 4: there in spirit but watching, and shout out to those

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01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 4: of us who just appreciated that there were people out

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01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 4: there demonstrating the largest protests in American history against an

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Speaker 4: American president. But something that caught my attention and I'm

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Speaker 4: extremely excited about is that the next No King's event,

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Speaker 4: May first, is intended to be a general strike. Now,

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 4: this has been called for by many on the left

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 4: from differently. I know the Mayor of Chicago had mentioned

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Speaker 4: it in in a speech several months back, that that's

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01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 4: one way to bring a country, and it's in a

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 4: situation to heal is to withhold not only your money

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 4: but your person, Meaning you don't if you're a teacher,

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01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 4: you don't show up, if you're a student, you show up.

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01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 4: If you are everyday citizen working for whomever. You don't

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01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 4: show up, you don't shop, you don't do anything, so

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 4: that the full effect of what it means to have

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Speaker 4: us extracted from a place begins to be felt. And

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Speaker 4: I just hope for those of us who have sat out,

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Speaker 4: have watched, have reclined, even in our own stress and

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Speaker 4: in our own misery, or just out of self preservation,

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01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 4: whatever that's been, that may first and following this No

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01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 4: King's movement toward a general strike, to make it as

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Speaker 4: impactful as seismic as we possibly can. Please please please

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01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 4: do your research, Google find out what it is. Maybe

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01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 4: at some point between now and then we'll feature a

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01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 4: topic about what a general strike is, what it looks like,

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01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 4: what the history of it is. But for a president

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Speaker 4: who seems to be driven by very few things, but

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Speaker 4: one of those things is the market, this is a

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Speaker 4: way at which we get you in a single day's

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01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 4: effort illustrate our power. It's it's huge, and I really

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Speaker 4: hope that our community embraces this step and signs onto

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01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 4: the general strike.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love all your calls to action today. I mine

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01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: is simple. I want you to be in conversation and

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01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: hopefully have friends who do not think like you. I

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: think it's so important for us to have dimension, for

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01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: us not to categorize things as black or white shout

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: out to Michael Jackson, but to really be able to

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01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: see the spectrum of gray because it is large. I

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Speaker 1: agree with Bakari about cancelation. I believe in calling people in,

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01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: but if you you know, if you lie, you should

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01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: get called out too. I still think that there should

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01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: always be an opportunity for redemption, always an opportunity to

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01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: give grace as we've been given grace, and I think

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01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 1: that we it's really important that we talk to people

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01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: who will challenge our thinking, which sometimes can become flat

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01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: when it's not so. Shout out to everybody who pushes

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01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: their friends and loves on them. I will say that, Bakari,

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01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: we have some gold headphones with your name engraved on

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01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: them that should be sitting on.

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Speaker 2: Your front porch.

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Speaker 4: Now, please trump.

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Speaker 2: April Fool's Day, Ya dummy, the show's done. Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 5: I ain't taking this.

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Speaker 2: I heeart, Lord, have mercy.

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