WEBVTT - Week 10 Express Recap 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.640 Welcome to the solid verbal Hell that for me. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.680 I'm a man. I've heard so many players say, well 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.640 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.360 for a day? Edith state is that? Whoo whoo? 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:21.200 And then and tie? All right, Dan, A little bit 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:22.280 of a different show today. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.120 Yeah, it's a great I'm having a great time, Ty, Yes, 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:28.840 it's a different show. You can if you're watching this 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.800 on YouTube, eventually you can see that we are on 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:37.440 the run. We are. We're in an anonymous Hilton Garden 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:42.400 Inn somewhere in Michigan. But this is great, Ty. We're 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:47.160 starting a new life together. We need to find ladies. Okay, 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.480 what are we doing? We're talking week ten. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.760 We're talking week ten. So, for those of you who 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.760 have paid any attention to what we've been doing over 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.560 the last couple of weeks, we have been teasing this weekend. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:01.080 We are doing this from parts of known i e. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:05.280 Somewhere near Ann Arbor, somewhere near the Detroit Airport. At present, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.960 we do not have strong enough internet to do our 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.679 normal midnight stream. Though we tried, it was just not 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.480 going to happen. So a last we're recording this on 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.839 an iPhone. We've got a portable recording set up here, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.360 and we will do our best to get this out 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.080 as soon as possible. So apologies to those of you 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.880 who are out there who listened for the midnight live 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.560 stream or waiting for the midnight live show. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.080 It's still a show, still show, still a show. It's 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.360 in audio form and in video form. The timing's a 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.319 little bit different. We could have been partying with the 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:40.039 youths in ann Arbor, but we got cheap pizza, a 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:44.679 hotel room game still going for you, for you, this 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:45.800 is what we do for the Verbowl. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.640 Yes, so yeah, this I think goes without saying that 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.600 it will not be a normal show, though we paid 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.320 attention to and though we have a pretty good sense 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.920 for the themes of the day. Dan, Yes, we didn't 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.800 get to watch our normal amount of college football, so 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.320 still like decent amount, decent amount, but I think just 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:08.400 to preserve like honesty, this is a show about honesty 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.880 first and foremost true, we're going to make sure that 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.880 this is not the normal show and more of just 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:18.519 a express reaction version to what we saw. I think 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.320 have a pretty good sense for what happened in the 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.959 early block and the mid afternoon block, it's just the 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.960 night games that are going on right now. And you know, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.520 because we were in the press box for a good 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.720 chunk of the day, brag much. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.399 Yeah, such a cool thing. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.800 We did not get to watch our normal amount of football. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.440 So we'll get to dood alerts, we'll get to reverbs, 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.600 we'll get to all the normal bits. On the Tuesday 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.040 spillover episode, we'll use that as sort of a second 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:47.000 recap episode. But as for today, today is about what 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.600 we kind of took in here, what we saw around 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.720 college football skin tight Saturday. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.120 I had a nice little week pick in time. I'm 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:57.800 not gonna lie. I don't know what's going to happen 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.600 with all the night games, and this is going to 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.880 be a specially weird to listen to after the fact, 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.240 where you're like, well, South Carolina's pretty impressive and then 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:09.040 they lose by thirty, right, But there is something fun 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.000 about being in the moment with this, and it's a 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.760 great opportunity for anybody listening to say, yeah, you probably 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.880 didn't watch a ton of Syracuse Virginia Tech. Here's what 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:20.800 happened to file away for next week. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.639 Yeah, that's exactly right, So make sure you hit fall 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.639 make sure you hit subscribe, make sure you vote in 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.160 Overballer Top twelve poll. By the way, I've opened it 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.800 up to everybody who signs up for our Patreon, so 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.840 it's not just people with the paid tiers. If you 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.960 go to overbawlers dot com, there's a free tier. Yes, 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:37.840 if you don't feel like paying, we get it. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:38.400 It's cool. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.920 But this week, this week only, you're gonna have the 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.200 opportunity to vote in Overballer Top twelve pole. That's going 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.640 to drop bright and early on Sunday morning. So let's 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.480 get more people in the tent, get more opinions out there. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.320 Let's start with Penn State, Ohio State. Let's Penn sat 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:54.880 Ohiose State. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.320 We were roaming tailgates today doing our best to try 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.320 and find televisions. We watched the fourth quarter of the game, 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.640 or chunk of the fourth quarter of this game from 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.160 our seats up in the press box. Your final score 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.280 was twenty two thirteen Ohio State. It was not a 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.280 game dominated by defair by offense, excuse me, much more 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.440 so by defense. At one point in the game, I 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.680 turned to you when we were watching and we compared 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.760 the team box scores and the team stat lines right, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:25.280 and they look shockingly similar. So this was very similar, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.640 frustratingly so to other Ohio State Penn State games that 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.200 we have seen. I can speak to it from the 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.760 Penn State perspective right to the extent that we watched 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.360 this game, we're able to take it in. What did 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.960 you get from what you saw out of Ohio State? So, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.039 Ohio State seemed to make a lot very difficult for 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:47.080 Penn State. Defensively, it seemed like they were overwhelming Penn 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.440 State's offensive line a good amount, obviously highlighted by the 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.640 defensive stand first second, third, fourth and goal, probably highlighted 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.760 by Penn State's decision to run it straight up the 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:00.680 gut first second, third down before attempting to throw it 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.480 into a real solid amount of traffic out of the 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.159 shotgun on fourth and goal. 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.440 But from Ohio State, it felt like they were generating 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.520 even though they weren't finishing drives, even though they weren't 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.000 hitting a number of downfield passes like they have earlier 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:16.720 on in the season, which of course they weren't. It's 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:21.880 the Penn State defense right right that they were finding 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:27.160 ways to get Brandon Innis. Jeremiah Smith Quinn, Shawn Judkins, 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.320 a little bit of wiggle room, a little bit of space, 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:34.400 whether it was play design, whether it was reading what 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.960 the defense was giving to them. And Will Howard was 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.040 very sloppy early on. Will Howard was giving the defense. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.160 I mean, he gave Penn State its only touchdown in 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.880 this game on the first drive of the game for 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.200 Ohio State. It jumped a slant, took it to the house. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.040 It was up to Penn State was up ten to 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.760 nothing before we even knew what happened. But it was 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.200 from that point forward that Ohio State started to kind 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.080 of assert itself a little bit more. And you know, 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.479 you can speak to what they did on offense, but 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.960 what they did on defense I think was especially impressive. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.719 Penn State had two drives inside the five yard line, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:08.839 came away with zero points. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:09.080 Yep. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.400 They scored exactly your favorite stat, zero offensive touchdowns. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.040 Just had to those two field goals. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.880 And really, this is the second year of scoring zero 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.800 offensive touchdowns. It was twenty nine seconds down two scores 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.640 last year that got in the end zone. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.280 Yeah, And I think the bigger theme for me was 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.640 just the way that Ohio State bullied Penn State really 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.480 on both sides, you know what I mean. We had 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.320 some questions about the left side of the Ohio State line, rightfully, 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.279 so there were some newer guys that were starting on 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.000 that side, or less experienced guys at a minimum, and 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.040 the fact that they had as much success as they did, 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.440 I think as an offensive line unit was pretty impressive. 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:49.679 Quinchawn Judkins close to one hundred yards rushing yep, Trevion 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.400 Henderson over fifty yards rushing like fifty four yards. Will 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.800 Howard did not have an eye popping stat line with 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.359 respect to what he did on the ground, but he 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.680 did have two really big third down conversion late in 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.400 the game that extended their drive and essentially put the 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.600 game on ice. So it felt like, to your point, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.000 it came together late for them in some respect on offense, 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.120 but ultimately that it was enough to put the game 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:14.880 on ice. The Penn State side of this, I think 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.560 is really frustrating. I agree, yeah, because. 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.880 It feels like the same game every year. It does 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.240 look so okay, it's the same game every year, zoom 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.640 out for a moment. We talked a little bit about 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.280 Penn State not recently finding the next I guess would 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.880 be Parker Washington would be the last guy in this respect. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.800 They found the tight ends. We talked about not finding 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:39.760 the receivers. Penn State is not finding the quarterbacks and 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:44.080 offensive coordinators and offensive lineman at the same time. Right, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.880 there is something I think Andy Kotilnik is probably really good. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.960 Is he you have four plays to get in the 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.960 end zone from the three yard line. Good early returns 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.040 are no not for Penn State, not good enough. And 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.440 so maybe it's an execution thing. It wasn't a createivity 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.120 thing to me. Well, he wasn't creative enough there. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.960 It seemed there were several drives in this game where 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.840 I thought they were going to go all trick play 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:08.520 all the time. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:08.920 Yeah. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.280 Right, whether it's using Tyler Warren, whether it's using creative sets, 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:14.720 whether I mean, you name it, I mean they it 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.840 felt like they were empty in the clip against Ohio State. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:18.640 With respect to. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.400 Creativity, creativity is not the issue. It's scoring points. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.080 Okay, So Drew Owler's injured, he's playing on kind of 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.560 one leg or one knee or whatever. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.000 Look good, Look pretty good. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.200 What was scrambling early for key first downs? And it's 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.160 different after playing you know, three and a half quarters 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.800 against Ohio State. Your body wears down, I assume, so 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.480 I think my body would wear down. So to me, 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.679 the thing with Penn State is everything looked like they 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.920 had to scratch and claw. Not everything. Eighty five percent 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:50.080 of their successful plays seem like tight windows had to 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.720 break three tackles to get to seven yards. Right, Everything 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.040 seemed a little bit easier. Maybe it's because they had 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.480 better skill position Ohio State, but the Penn State scratch 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.360 and claw element to me was a little bit disappointing 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.199 that it's another year of this. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:05.040 Well. 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.920 Look, Ben Jones, our friend who writes about Penn State, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.120 has been on the show. He threw this one out 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.920 on Twitter. He says, in the last two Ohio State games, 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.920 Penn State has thrown the ball sixty three times and 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.120 completed thirteen of those passes, just thirteen of those passes 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:21.000 to wide receivers. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:21.880 Quote. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.840 You can point to a ton of other things, but 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.400 the wide out play and development simply hasn't been good enough. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.560 This is not a trade secret at point. We know 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.840 this about Penn State, and I think the frustration was 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.680 palpable in the immediate aftermath of this game. Zach Saiko, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.640 who does the locked on Hitney Lyons podcast shout out 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.400 to him. He tweeted out, still in shock from what 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.760 I witnessed postgame for Penn State versus Ohio State. The 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.199 student section bowed the team as they lined up for 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.000 the alma mater. Then half the team walked into the 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.920 tunnel before the song was over. So the team feeling it, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.360 the crowd feeling it. It sucks to kind of lay 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:03.240 that on the player. Obviously, there is frustration abound. James 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.520 Franklin took on some of that in his postgame press conference, saying, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:07.840 you know, he's got to own he's got to look 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.480 in the mirror. It's entirely on him that type of thing. Look, 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.040 I feel like we've heard this a million times. He's 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.080 one to ten against Ohio State at this point. So 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.880 there's got to be a lot of splain in this 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.800 week as for where they go from here and how 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.439 they can try and take a step forward. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.600 This is still a playoff team. I think for the 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:26.920 most part, this is a playoff team. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:28.840 Technically yes, technically yes. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.679 I don't know if it was all that inspiring or 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.520 performance though, and that's probably the bigger question. Can they 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.560 get into the playoff with an eleven to one record. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:38.920 They're not going to make the Big Ten title at 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.840 this game at this rate. Can they make the playoff? Yeah, 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.560 they can't make the playoff. I think it's probably they 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.240 will make the playoff. What they do when they get there, 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.840 Can they be a serious contender based on what we 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:49.520 saw in this game? 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:50.840 The answer is a definitive no. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.800 Well here, here's the other thing too. If you're going 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.840 to look at the other side of this coin, it's 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.160 Ohio State has a decent too, I think good shot 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:02.080 at winning the Big Ten. Penn State is a score 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.520 worse than Ohio State in this moment. Without putting the 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.120 ball in on offense that you simulate the tame one 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.280 hundred times, Penn State's probably scoring an offensive touchdown a 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.800 number of those times. So you're saying a down, if 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.559 not horrendous, all things considered, offensive performance from Penn State 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:24.920 has them in a position to beat a probable excellent team. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.400 A You really have to squint to see the silver 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.800 lining if you're a Penn State fan. But there's that. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.800 I guess, well, there is that, and I just. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.880 I think the thing the other thing that makes is frustrating, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.640 separate from the fact that all of these games feel 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.320 the same. If I were in the home studio, I'd 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:42.120 be yelling about this. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.400 Right. They had their chances, Dan. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.000 They had that's the opportunity thing. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.200 Yeah, they had their chances. This was like they did 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.000 not play well on offense. Ohio State certainly got the 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:57.360 best of them on offense, but they have plenty of chances. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.440 They had plenty of chances to get into the game 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.520 to straight up win this game because their defense. All 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.080 things considered, you hold Ohio State to twenty points, that 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:07.880 should be good. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.280 Enough for it, and a good offense. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.319 You put the pressure on Will Howard like they put 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.200 pressure on him right, and that you're getting in his 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.240 head early with that pick six, and you are. You're 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:20.160 doing plenty to win this game. The Penn State defense wise, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.959 like Ohio State had plays. Of course, they're going to 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.559 make plays against everybody, but there is something like even 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.360 the threat of a big play receiver opens things up 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.640 against the defense as good as Ohio States can be. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.120 And when you don't have the like gravitational safeties peaking 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.080 over here, it just it gives drew Our allor less 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.079 to work with. It gives the running backs less to 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.240 work with It gives codel Nicky less to work with 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:47.679 Cotil Nicky. And there's that glaring issue right now that 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.960 if each of those offensive position units is, you know, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.640 the part of the a slice of the offensive pie, 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.560 they're missing a pretty significant slice. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:57.640 It's very frustrating. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:03.840 And I saw a lot of people who commented in 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:07.560 response to some of our tweets we send out the 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.720 nightly tweet on Saturdays, asking I'm a Penn State fan 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.559 and this is how I'm feeling. And there are a 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.280 couple of people who chimed in and said that this 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.280 should be it for Franklin. I don't know if I 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.319 necessarily agree with that. Right the perspective is getting a 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.000 little bit easier to justify, though, Well, you. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.679 Just if you're selling hope when you're one and ten 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.760 against what you perceive to be the most consistently difficult 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.800 team in your conference, and you look at your standard 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:41.199 as conference championship level, but you've lost ten of eleven 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.760 at this point, you know, James Franklin is probably not 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.000 going to often start winning this game. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.040 It's incredibly frustrating. It is a good road win for 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:55.040 Ohio State, excellent, a really good road win. It doesn't 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.280 always need to be pretty. They found a way to 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:58.720 get it done, so kudos to them. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.560 It does need to be at night, conversation for another day. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.079 Conversation for another day. May we could talk about that 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:07.080 on Tuesday. Sure, Game Day was not shy about the 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.240 innu window saw that why the game needs to be 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.120 at night or should be at night. The Penn State 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:16.800 student body certainly was not shy about expressing its dismay 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.960 over the decision by Fox to make this the big 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:19.520 noon game. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:21.200 I think it sucks. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.000 I think it should have been at night. But that 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.760 being said, I don't know if the game's any different 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:25.400 if it's at night. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:26.960 Likely not right. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.000 We've got ten previous games of data to show us 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.920 that this game would probably have ended up exactly the 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.640 same way. Agree, what else stood out to you? We 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.320 had a couple things go down. It was a drama 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.920 fill day, it really was. We had obviously the game 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:48.000 we were at Oregon Michigan. We had two teams in 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.640 the Big twelve lose Big Twelve teams, Yeah, Kansas State 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.840 and Iowa State, which is certainly going to shake up 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.120 that conference race. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:56.560 Maybe how we think about it's. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.359 Good for Colorado. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.640 I believe really good for Colorado. How those teams kind 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.440 of factor into the larger national discussion. We had some 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:09.440 interesting bits here in the SEC. The Georgia game, I 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.600 think left some questions about where they stand in the 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:18.840 pecking order. They won by fourteen over Florida, but Carson 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:23.600 Beck had a really rough go of things. DJ Lagway 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.960 went down for Florida. I saw that it was a 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.480 situation truly on the Florida side. I think they lost 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.840 four guys, three of which were defensive backs in this 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.520 football game, so it was a war of attrition in 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.640 one sense. Georgia gets the w But now with some 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.280 of their games coming up, I think it's fair to 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.960 ask questions about what happens to them next. As we 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:46.320 are recording this much earlier than usual, Texas A and 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.360 m tennessee both on the ropes. We will not be 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.080 covering that because we cannot. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.000 Cover Do you have a current score for me? 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.520 I could pull up the current scores as we're going 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:56.040 through this, And. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.640 By the way, just while you're pulling them up, adds 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.400 an interesting wrinkle to the Bill Napier month and a 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:07.200 half ahead of us, because the narrative of the story 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.520 was like, he's got to look pretty good to like, 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.080 very good in this stretch of impossible games that Florida 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.080 has coming up. Now, DJ likeway, it looks like he's 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.840 out for the year. Significant hamstring injury. That was the 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.920 initial By the way, sometimes you might hear planes flying overhead, 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.160 like yeah, like we're playing in the nineteen ninety three US 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:29.400 Open in Queens. Yeah, this is the true Stefan Edberg 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:34.080 of the college football podcasting world right here. That Billy 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.440 Napier has to win games, that Billy Napier has to 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.280 look good, that BILLI Napier has to prove that Florida 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.480 is heading in an impressive direction. Aiden Gardner is not 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.360 the per Gardner. Aiden Warner? Is that the name I'm 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:48.080 warning for? Yeah, Aiden Warner is not the person to 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.520 steer that chip. Right, This was so like, what do 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.880 you do if you're a Florida decision maker? How do 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:57.520 you judge Billy Napier against results without DJ Lagway or 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.240 Graham Mertz. Does it buy him time or does give 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:00.920 you an excuse? 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.800 I don't know, Yeah, I mean it depends how you 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.840 feel about billion Aper, right exactly in that administration at 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.480 one point when they brought in Aiden Warner. I turned 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:09.760 to you and I said, what do we know about 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.400 this guy? And he said, well, he's a Yale transfer 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.480 and I said, high football IQ, yeah, and he said 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:15.120 he didn't play. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:15.960 He did not play. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.480 It just a high regular IQ. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.199 And to be honest with you, they had to go 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.320 at this one even late. But he threw a really 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.560 bad pick on a drive where I think Florida needed 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.040 to go down the field and try and tie this 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.560 one up. Your final score was thirty four to twenty 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.960 in favor of Georgia at the end of the day. 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:37.520 Carson Beck threw multiple player interceptible passes. There were on 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.879 multiple occasions he threw passes that could have been intercepted 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:41.840 by multiple people. 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:42.600 The way I. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.200 Jotted it down on the note sheet was his first 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:49.879 two interceptions were underthrown into at least double coverage. Truly, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.600 both were into at least double coverage. The third was 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.879 a pick I believe in the third quarter. Early in 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.080 the third ye hit where he got hit and it 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.159 was sort of tipped and it just was a wounded 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.480 duck that was able to jump up and grab. So 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.280 I give credit to Florida's defense for what they did 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.439 in that game. You know, this was a much moreligne 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.640 unit coming into the season. They clearly took it seriously 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.960 trying to reboot things, and it felt like they were 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:14.240 getting pressure on Carson back. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.440 It felt like they were able to obviously. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.600 Change the game with turnovers at least in the first half, 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.919 with defensive backs being in the right place at the 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:22.320 right time. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:22.760 Totally. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.200 If nothing more, if you're a Florida fan, one of 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:27.840 the things you take away from this is the fact 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:32.240 that they look pretty good I think on defense against 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:36.080 a at a minimum, pretty good offense with Georgia, right, 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.520 I mean that is a sign things are improving. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.120 Yeah, but how much can you say like we improved 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.680 in a losing injured effort, Like it's just a hard 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.560 sales job. It's not BILLI Napier's fault. I don't think 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:49.760 that both Graham Hertz and DJ like Waar are hurt. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.600 But I guess you could point to offensive line issues. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.960