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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal Hell that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man. I've heard so many players say, well

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 2: for a day? Edith state is that? Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 1: And then and tie? All right, Dan, A little bit

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Speaker 1: of a different show today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great I'm having a great time, Ty, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's a different show. You can if you're watching this

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Speaker 2: on YouTube, eventually you can see that we are on

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Speaker 2: the run. We are. We're in an anonymous Hilton Garden

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Speaker 2: Inn somewhere in Michigan. But this is great, Ty. We're

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Speaker 2: starting a new life together. We need to find ladies. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what are we doing? We're talking week ten.

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Speaker 3: We're talking week ten. So, for those of you who

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Speaker 3: have paid any attention to what we've been doing over

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Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, we have been teasing this weekend.

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Speaker 1: We are doing this from parts of known i e.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere near Ann Arbor, somewhere near the Detroit Airport. At present,

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Speaker 3: we do not have strong enough internet to do our

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Speaker 3: normal midnight stream. Though we tried, it was just not

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Speaker 3: going to happen. So a last we're recording this on

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Speaker 2: It's still a show, still show, still a show. It's

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Speaker 2: is what we do for the Verbowl.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, this I think goes without saying that

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Speaker 3: it will not be a normal show, though we paid

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Speaker 3: for the themes of the day. Dan, Yes, we didn't

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Speaker 3: night games that are going on right now. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, such a cool thing.

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Speaker 3: We did not get to watch our normal amount of football.

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Speaker 3: So we'll get to dood alerts, we'll get to reverbs,

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Speaker 3: spillover episode, we'll use that as sort of a second

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Speaker 2: I had a nice little week pick in time. I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I don't know what's going to happen

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Penn State, Ohio State. Let's Penn sat

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Speaker 3: We were roaming tailgates today doing our best to try

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Speaker 3: game dominated by defair by offense, excuse me, much more

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Speaker 2: But from Ohio State, it felt like they were generating

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Speaker 3: They scored exactly your favorite stat, zero offensive touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Creativity, creativity is not the issue. It's scoring points.

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Speaker 3: Look, Ben Jones, our friend who writes about Penn State,

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Speaker 3: has been on the show. He threw this one out

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Speaker 3: on Twitter. He says, in the last two Ohio State games,

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Speaker 3: You can point to a ton of other things, but

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Speaker 3: the wide out play and development simply hasn't been good enough.

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Speaker 3: This is not a trade secret at point. We know

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Speaker 3: who does the locked on Hitney Lyons podcast shout out

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Speaker 3: to him. He tweeted out, still in shock from what

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Speaker 3: I witnessed postgame for Penn State versus Ohio State. The

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Speaker 3: that on the player. Obviously, there is frustration abound. James

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Speaker 3: I feel like we've heard this a million times. He's

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Speaker 3: there's got to be a lot of splain in this

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Speaker 1: This is still a playoff team. I think for the

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Speaker 1: Right. They had their chances, Dan.

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Speaker 3: It's incredibly frustrating. It is a good road win for

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Speaker 2: It does need to be at night, conversation for another day.

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Speaker 3: Conversation for another day. May we could talk about that

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Speaker 1: Maybe how we think about it's.

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Speaker 2: Cover Do you have a current score for me?

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Speaker 2: By the way, just while you're pulling them up, adds

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Speaker 2: Napier has to win games, that Billy Napier has to

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Speaker 1: It just a high regular IQ.

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Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, they had to go

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Speaker 2: Carson Beck threw multiple player interceptible passes. There were on

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Speaker 1: It felt like they were able to obviously.

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 3: If nothing more, if you're a Florida fan, one of

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Speaker 2: There was This was a grooveless experience from Georgia football.

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Speaker 2: Where do we rank Georgia. I don't know, man. They

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Speaker 3: recording this, ask him he's gonna win that game. They're

441
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Speaker 3: up twenty eight points at halftime, right so, I mean

442
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Speaker 3: we are starting to get some of the intel. I

443
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 3: think that we need to try and break these teams down. Meanwhile,

444
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Speaker 3: Notre Dame, also on buy probably stands to benefit more

445
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Speaker 3: than anybody. Yes, it will not help them if A

446
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Speaker 3: and M loses. Nonetheless, they are in the top ten,

447
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 3: they're not going to be penalized for not playing a game.

448
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: And if there are teams in front of them where

449
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Speaker 3: there are questions emerging about them, or if they, frankly

450
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Speaker 3: they've got an easier schedule than those teams in front

451
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Speaker 3: of them, they're going to find themselves in a position

452
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Speaker 3: where they can just keep gradually moving up.

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Speaker 2: Look, you have to apply the same principles and standards

454
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Speaker 2: to everybody, even as schedules are wildly different. And that

455
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Speaker 2: is I don't know, take the three best teams. Each

456
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Speaker 2: of these teams has played, which varies dramatically. How did

457
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Speaker 2: that team play in those games? And then you take

458
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Speaker 2: road games against conference opponents, how do they look in

459
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Speaker 2: those games? And if you are looking at any of

460
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Speaker 2: these teams and saying they haven't played well on the road,

461
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Speaker 2: they haven't played well against quality teams, but they're winning games,

462
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Speaker 2: knock them down if they're And I like not style

463
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 2: for the sake of style, but generally speaking, Notre Dame

464
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: has won by a lot of points. Generally speaking, Indiana,

465
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Speaker 2: who has not played a tough schedule at all, has

466
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Speaker 2: won by a lot of points. They have performed like

467
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Speaker 2: an excellent team should be like they have performed against

468
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Speaker 2: their schedule better than BYU has performed against its schedule.

469
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Speaker 2: And so that's something I hold dearly in my chest.

470
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Speaker 2: So that's that's how you can more broadly apply the

471
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Speaker 2: same standards. But yeah, how you play on the road,

472
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Speaker 2: how you play against the best teams, the quote unquote

473
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Speaker 2: best teams, which is also subjective, And I think that's

474
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Speaker 2: how you That's how, at least initially you have to apply.

475
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter until early December, it does not, No,

476
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Speaker 2: but at least we can start shaping this a little bit.

477
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Speaker 3: I mentioned the Big twelve thing earlier, yeap, as I

478
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Speaker 3: often say, the Big twelve is now also on a blender.

479
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Speaker 3: Iowa State loss today. Oh, to be clear, Arizona is

480
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Speaker 3: fully blended the smoothie. The Arizona smoothie is ready for

481
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Speaker 3: everybody to consume. Everybody can't consume. You CF beat them

482
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Speaker 3: into a pulp today. Man, just an absolute massacre. I

483
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Speaker 3: don't have my soundboard. That would be everybody got murdered

484
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Speaker 3: sound right there. But I was State lost that game

485
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Speaker 3: to Texas Tech. Taj Brooks. Taj Brooks will be a

486
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Speaker 3: dude when we do our due to works sitement on Tuesday,

487
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: he runs it in on a direct snap, ran it

488
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Speaker 3: around the right tackle into the end zone. They end

489
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Speaker 3: up winning twenty three to twenty two. And in the

490
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Speaker 3: KSE State game, Houston, of all teams, scored fourteen points

491
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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter to knock off Case State to

492
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Speaker 3: give them their second conference laws at present, who've.

493
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Speaker 2: Been looking vulnerable by the way Case State against both

494
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Speaker 2: Kansas and Colorado on the ropes.

495
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Speaker 3: The writing was on the wall, and frankly it was

496
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Speaker 3: on the wall for Iowa State as well. Absolutely all right,

497
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Speaker 3: So we have seen this coming. We've kind of warned

498
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Speaker 3: about it, regardless of who we picked and when we

499
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Speaker 3: picked them. It's if you've been paying attention, you have

500
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Speaker 3: seen that some of these games have been closer than

501
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Speaker 3: you'd expect. So where are we stand right now in

502
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Speaker 3: the Big twelve is actually quite interesting. Again, BYU stood,

503
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Speaker 3: I think to benefit the most from this week because

504
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: they didn't play, I didn't have anything to worry about.

505
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Speaker 3: They've got Utah coming up in a rivalry game. I

506
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Speaker 3: don't know how much we think of Utah, but I believe.

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Speaker 1: It's a road game.

508
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Speaker 3: It's still rivalry. Rivalries can get weird. So that's one

509
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Speaker 3: to kind of take and put aside for another day.

510
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Speaker 3: But you've now got this combination of teams that are vying,

511
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Speaker 3: I think for that number two slot in the Big twelve,

512
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Speaker 3: one of which is still Liillwa State, which only has

513
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Speaker 3: one conference loss, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Cincinnati, Arizona State,

514
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Speaker 3: who won Big TCU. Like all of these, here a

515
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Speaker 3: bunch of teams that have two losses in the conference.

516
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Speaker 3: But sitting there also with one loss is a Little

517
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Speaker 3: Old Colorado.

518
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Speaker 2: Little Old Colorado, right, because Nebraska's out of conference, right,

519
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Speaker 2: Little Old Colorado, and they don't own the tiebreaker against

520
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Speaker 2: k State, but otherwise are clean.

521
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Speaker 3: Otherwise I believe they stand to benefit a lot from

522
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Speaker 3: just winning out. Oh yeah, this was one of the

523
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Speaker 3: circumstances that we talked through on our Tuesday episode.

524
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Speaker 1: They needed Iowa State to lose check and they need

525
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Speaker 1: to win out. We'll see tbchcheck number two.

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Speaker 3: And then it would be helpful at this point in

527
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Speaker 3: time if Case State beat Iowa State in the Farm

528
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Speaker 3: Again game, just to leave no doubt, right. But if

529
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Speaker 3: all of those things occur, there's a pretty good chance

530
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Speaker 3: that Colorado is getting through that Big twelve title game

531
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Speaker 3: to play against BYU.

532
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Speaker 2: But also it's the Big Twelve. So as soon as

533
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Speaker 2: you think a team is well positioned, or as soon

534
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Speaker 2: as you think a team is dead to rights, Houston, TCU, whoever.

535
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Speaker 2: I came into this conference season thinking, yeah, Utah is

536
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Speaker 2: probably in good shape, Arizona's going to be very difficult

537
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Speaker 2: to deal with, Colorado's.

538
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Speaker 1: A wild card.

539
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Speaker 2: And then Houston comes out and lays big old eggs

540
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Speaker 2: they're back. Yeah, they are the undead, right, Like Kansas

541
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Speaker 2: looked pretty bad now they look at least Kansas looks dangerous,

542
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Speaker 2: right that they can put a lot of fear into

543
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Speaker 2: a lot of teams. We'll see what happens. We'll see

544
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Speaker 2: what that actually means. Means Utah has completely fallen off,

545
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Speaker 2: we're to say, but kind of not in terms of

546
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Speaker 2: greatness or difficulties. ASU and Cincinnati have kind of just

547
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Speaker 2: sort of like been what they've been. They've sort of

548
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: chugged along, you know what they are SU six and two.

549
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State goes to this conference's championship game last year

550
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Speaker 2: and remained winless in this conference thus far. So I

551
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Speaker 2: guess you can count on Oklahoma State on some level.

552
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Speaker 2: This year, they've been consistently disappointing well.

553
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Speaker 3: And then there's also the case of Texas Tech. Yes,

554
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech lost back to back games not so long

555
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Speaker 3: ago to both Arizona and Baylor.

556
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Speaker 1: The Baylor game was you know.

557
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Speaker 2: But also lost to Washington State, opened up giving up

558
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Speaker 2: fifty to Abilene Christian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two conference losses, three overall, and as it goes

560
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Speaker 3: for them the remainder of the season, They've got a

561
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Speaker 3: game against Colorado which could end up being rather significant.

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Speaker 1: Agree, They've got a game on the road at.

563
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Speaker 3: Oklahoma State, which suddenly looks a lot more winnable hm.

564
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Speaker 3: And they come back home to close things out against

565
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Speaker 3: West Virginia, which also feels like a winnable game. Maybe

566
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Speaker 3: not with West Virginia's proclivity to run the foot.

567
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Speaker 2: Where's that game? As long as West Virginia is away

568
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: from it's in Lubbock, ok So.

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Speaker 3: I mean Texas Tech is another team that I don't

570
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Speaker 3: think we could turn a blind eye to just because Look,

571
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: they went on the road and they beat Iowa State.

572
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Speaker 1: That's a really good win.

573
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Speaker 3: They're just really tough to try and engage and feel

574
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Speaker 3: confident about week in a week out. But I think

575
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Speaker 3: that almost applies to this point to every team in

576
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Speaker 3: the Big twe and.

577
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Speaker 2: Then BYU from the Rafters, BYU Colorado as we all.

578
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Speaker 3: Predicted, as as we all predicted, And then I guess

579
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Speaker 3: the other kind of angle this week is what's going

580
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Speaker 3: on in the ACC. So at time of recording, hopefully this.

581
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Speaker 1: Won't be stale.

582
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Speaker 3: Okay, what do we have with about nine minutes left

583
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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter? They'll Clemson has the ball and

584
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 3: is driving at about midfield and plus territory. Louisville currently

585
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: leads twenty six to seven.

586
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Speaker 2: That's a lot to come back from.

587
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Speaker 3: It's a lot to come back from for U and

588
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: I talked about this earlier. What started as a pickleball

589
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: effort from Kate clubneck.

590
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: Let's let's cover our bases here. React to Clemson coming

591
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: back and winning this game.

592
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Speaker 1: Incredible win.

593
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: Should be a top ten team, definitely cementing its spot

594
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Speaker 3: as one of the top two teams in the ACC.

595
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Speaker 2: They were down twenty six to seven with nine minutes left,

596
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Speaker 2: and I don't want to bore you with the details

597
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 2: of how they came back to win this game, but

598
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Speaker 2: holy hell, how dramatic and impressive was that obviously a

599
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: clunker of a performance the first three quarters plus. But

600
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Speaker 2: this is what good teams do.

601
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Speaker 1: Tie.

602
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: They come back and they find ways to win. Okay,

603
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: en scene, Now let's go through. Louisville pulls this out cleanly.

604
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Louisville pulls this one out cleanly first off. A great

605
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: win for Louisville. Que go on the road to Death

606
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: Valley and win that game.

607
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler Schuck has not really won that big game

608
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: and finally is able to sort of plant his flag.

609
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: Had a beautiful rushing touchdown earlier in this game where

610
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: he sort of dove into the Superman's summersault, which is

611
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: pretty pretty awesome. Clemson losing this game gives them two

612
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: losses on the season. Lost the game Week one in

613
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: resounding fashion. Together one way, this would be their first

614
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Speaker 3: in the ACC, so they would still obviously be in it,

615
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 3: but by virtue of Miami winning, by virtue of I

616
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: believe SMU pulling away from Pitt, that would mean that

617
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 3: SMU and Miami are on a collision course. Now for

618
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: this ACC title game, the rest of the way for

619
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Speaker 3: SMU is pretty clean. By comparison, It is the easiest

620
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Speaker 3: slate for the remainder of the season that I think

621
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Speaker 3: you're going to find the ACC. If you're an SMU fan,

622
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Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about that. What this does is

623
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Speaker 3: it paves the way for those two teams to meet

624
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: play for the ACC title game. It opens up the

625
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: possibility that SMU could find a way to win the

626
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Speaker 3: ACC in its first year in the conference, if not

627
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Speaker 3: making into the playoff. I think it makes things really

628
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: interesting with respect to these playoff rankings that they're going

629
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Speaker 3: to release of all times election on Election Day at

630
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Speaker 3: night correct before the ballots close, which no one will

631
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Speaker 3: pay attention to, I'm sure, but where they put a

632
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: team like an SMU maybe not the toughest schedule throughout

633
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: the season, but at some point you got to take

634
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: notice that they are playing really really solid football.

635
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Speaker 2: Well, that they beat Louisville, who possibly just beat Clemson Clemson.

636
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: So I mean, I think where I'm at with Clemson

637
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: is they're going to need to get back to blowing

638
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: teams out, and I'm not sure they can do what

639
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: they did in the first half of their schedule moving forward, because,

640
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: as we said on the preview episode, back half of

641
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: the schedule gets harder for Clemson, not talking like they're

642
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: playing Georgia every week, but we're talking about playing top

643
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: twenty caliber teams, fringe top twenty teams a couple times

644
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: over now throughout the month of November, close out the

645
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: season against South Carolina.

646
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Speaker 1: South Carolina is probably on the verge of being Texas.

647
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Speaker 3: Ay now, it's a good South Carolina team, just as

648
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Speaker 3: an example, not a conference game.

649
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Speaker 2: Not a conference game.

650
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Speaker 3: But that is more of the case I think for

651
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Speaker 3: the remainder of the season for the clech So it's

652
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: for them to work their way back into kind of

653
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 3: that national conversation. It's a different calculation than I think

654
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: we saw in the beginning part of the year.

655
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Speaker 2: Well, they're on the road that sometimes some of these

656
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Speaker 2: big twelve teams in contention are, which is they might

657
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Speaker 2: not look great, they might not be highly rated as

658
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: an at large playoff team. Just when you're conferencing, you

659
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: get in as a top four seed, right, That's where

660
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: Clemson is right now, and you neglect it to make

661
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: to make another sort of mention with the ACC and

662
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: that is Miami is happily undefeated, but they downloaded Hinge

663
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: and they're swiping on some l's right, They're searching for

664
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: an hell. They haven't really found that match yet, but

665
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: between the Cal and Virginia Tech and Louisville and now

666
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Duke games, they're on the prowl for a loss.

667
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: By the way, Camboard had one of the worst interceptions

668
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: we've ever seen.

669
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and some of the best plays, which is I

670
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: guess the cam Ward experience.

671
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: It is a dichotomy that is Camboard.

672
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: It is he is so casual at times impressively so.

673
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: Xavier Rostreppo was casually excellent with regularity. There's a lot

674
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: to love about where this Miami team is in terms

675
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: of scoring points, pulling out games whatever. Miami's got some

676
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: work to clean up in terms of giving up the

677
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: havoc plays like defenses are getting after them a little

678
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: bit too much. If I'm a Miami fan, I'm a

679
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: little bit concerned about the sacks and the tackles for

680
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: lost that kind of thing. A little bit concerned about

681
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: cam Ward just going ice cold for stretches. I'm a

682
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: little bit concerned about a team like Duke not a

683
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: great offense. This is not a powerful, high powered whatever offense.

684
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: They rattled off like a twenty eight to three run.

685
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: I believe in the middle of this game.

686
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: Miami gave up over four hundred yards but forced four turnovers. Again,

687
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: it's like cam Ward but on defense, right there's sliping'.

688
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: There is a little bit of the good, a little

689
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: bit of the bad. Yes, it's sort of the ink

690
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: blot tests. You see what you want to see with Miami.

691
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: They won fifty three to thirty one over Duke to

692
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: remain unbeaten on the season, to remain unbeaten in conference.

693
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: Why don't we wind this down here please, I'm going

694
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: to do some quick word association with you.

695
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: And we haven't even talked to Michigan Oorgan yet.

696
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: We haven't even talked Michigan Oorgan. We're going to start.

697
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: We're going to close things out with that game, okay,

698
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: but just to make our way around college football here

699
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: very quickly. Okay, I'll give you a couple of games

700
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 3: and just give me your initial reaction.

701
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: Sorry, there's an airbus flying overhead right now, as Yvonne

702
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: Lendel closes out the third set.

703
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: Syracuse thirty eight Virginia Tech thirty one in overtime?

704
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: What do I think about? What do I know about

705
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: this game?

706
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: What are you? What's your reaction to that score.

707
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: Awesome for Sarahcuse for coming back and pulling out a

708
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: tough game after losing the way they did. For the

709
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: way they did against pitt tough Virginia Tech team. Obviously,

710
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: no starting quarterback, no starting running back, no.

711
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: Starting quarterback, no starting running back. The game was in

712
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: their grasp and they gagged it away.

713
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: Yes, literally fell out of their hands.

714
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and QS is now six and two bowligible, So

715
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: good for them.

716
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, here one of the for animal.

717
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: Another reaction, Give me your reaction to Minnesota twenty five

718
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: Illinois seventeen.

719
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: It's about right.

720
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: It feels right, doesn't It sort of about right? Max

721
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: Brosmer wasn't accomplishing much downfield from what I could see

722
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: in this game, which I was just sort of switching

723
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: back and forth to.

724
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: But here's the thing.

725
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Minnesota's one four straight. They've covered five straight, which

726
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: is important for the purpose at betting. Yeah, there were

727
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: two fumbles in this game for Luke Altmeyer, one of

728
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: which was a very critical fumble came inside the last

729
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: minute as Illinois was driving in the red zone to

730
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: potentially score the game time touchdown. So it was I'm

731
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: not gonna say it was there for Illinois, but there

732
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: were opportunities there.

733
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Good for Minnesota, the Utah of the Big ten, maybe

734
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: Indiana forty seven, Michigan State ten old Utah of the

735
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: Big Ten. Indiana's a war machine. They go down ten

736
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: to nothing, ten to three, something like that, and they

737
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: ripped off forty seven straight. They're incredible. Curtis work had

738
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 2: a slow ish start in the first drive or two

739
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: and then it was nothing but pain from Michigan State.

740
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: They couldn't run the ball at all against Indiana. The

741
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: offense gets all the attention and maybe rightfully so on

742
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: a certain level for Indiana, but defense has been playing. Again.

743
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: These are not huge opponents. They have played a mediocre

744
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: schedule at best, but they are doing to that mediocre

745
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: schedule what an excellent team should be doing. They don't

746
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: play single digit games. No, this was nowhere near a game.

747
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: Pretty quickly you.

748
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: See f fifty six Arizona twelve man, rest in peace.

749
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 3: You're down on Zona.

750
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: I just it's a new way to lose, an embarrassing fashion.

751
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: And like I was one of those people after I

752
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: think it was Northern Arizona Week two where there was

753
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: they're just not moving the ball. There's just so many mistakes.

754
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: You're like, you know what, it's week two working out

755
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: the kinks. Maybe they didn't take this team seriously. I

756
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: don't know. Something is off with this team. They've already

757
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: made a change at play caller. The defense is a

758
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: mess at times, as we saw today against what third

759
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: string quarterback.

760
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: Basically this is the all time case of the backup

761
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: being better than the starter, but it actually goes a

762
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: level deeper. Is the backup to the backup better than

763
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: the starter? Because listen, that not only applies to the offense.

764
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: With quarterback Ryan.

765
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: Rizzick miss five passes through for three ninety four and

766
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, fire their defensive coordinator. Yeah, believe new play

767
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: caller on offense, Like they have changed a lot here

768
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: midstream r J Harvey went off to RJ Harvey had

769
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: like one hundred and eighty four yards and a bunch touchdowns. So,

770
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: I mean this has been a roller coaster rider for you,

771
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: a UCF fan. A couple more here and then we're

772
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: going to close out with Oregon, Michigan, Ole Miss sixty three,

773
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: Arkansas thirty one.

774
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: There's always that team that doesn't actually play in the

775
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: huge game or the huge games but you kind of

776
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: know belongs in that space. And the best of all

777
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: Miss is, from what I can tell from AFAR, as

778
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: dangerous as most, if not every team. The problem is

779
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: that's eighty three percent of the time for Ole Miss.

780
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: It's not every week.

781
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: The problem is the Penn State thing. Yeah, it's the

782
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: Penn State thing where you know the team's got talent

783
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: obviously very very good. Can they get to that next level?

784
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: This might be And we talked there's another thing we

785
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: talked about in the car. Might be the best team

786
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 3: that does not make the playoffs, right, and it might

787
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: not even be close. Sixty three to thirty one against Arkansas.

788
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: Arkansas's a plucky team. Jackson Dart by the way, had

789
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: a school record five hundred and fifteen passing yards tied

790
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: to school record with six touchdowns at this game. Ole

791
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 3: Miss on the whole had six hundred and ninety four

792
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: yards of offense against.

793
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: Against so totally decent Arkansas team.

794
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 3: Against totally decent Arkansas team in Fayetteville, Yes, in Faithville, Yeah, Oregon, Michigan.

795
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: We were at this game. We sat in the press

796
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: box for this game. Thirty eight to seventeen was your

797
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: final at one point. It seemed as if the points

798
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: spread was not going to hit.

799
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: No.

800
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: A little bit of a backdoor cover for the Michigan Wolverines.

801
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: Oregon had the ball late, they were down inside the

802
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: five yard line. They decided they were going to score

803
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: the touchdown. Totally unnecessary touchdown. They could have taken the

804
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: knee with twenty five seconds left. Pack Yes, they did

805
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: get it into the end engine, so they win by

806
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: twenty one.

807
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: I didn't say this out loud because I didn't want

808
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: to curse it or want it to happen or whatever.

809
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: A little bit of the like Mario crystal ball, you

810
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: can just kneel it and leave with a win in

811
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: like a close It wasn't a close game, but in

812
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: kind of a weird ending of a game that Oregon

813
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: went pretty cold in the second half offensively, or at

814
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: least in the third quarter. They took our business thirty

815
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: eight to seventeen. If we kind of forget the rhythms

816
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: of this game is going to look better, maybe even

817
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: a lot better than thirty one seventeen. Thirty one to

818
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: seventeen could have the you know the feel of kind

819
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: of back and forth, and Oregon scores late thirty eight

820
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 2: to seventeen is like, hyeah, I beat them by three touchdowns.

821
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: Here's what I'll say about this game. It felt like

822
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: this one was going to be over at halftime.

823
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: Yes, twenty eight ten at halftime.

824
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: Twenty eight ten at halftime.

825
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 3: Oregon ripped off twenty one in the second quarter. After halftime,

826
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: Michigan did a pretty good job bottling him up.

827
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: Oregon scored right before and got the ball back. Yeah. Yeah,

828
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: they were to dominate the middle eight but didn't.

829
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: It felt as if that game was over.

830
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: But the way that Michigan rebounded, specifically on defense, I

831
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 3: thought was impressive. I also thought Davis Warren looked pretty good.

832
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't have his final stat line in front of me.

833
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if he is striking the fear of

834
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: God into a good defense right all things consider, given

835
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 3: where they started and where I think they're at now,

836
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: Davis Warren has definitely been a success story. He threw

837
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: some nice throws in the red zone for touchdown passes.

838
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: He didn't he hit.

839
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: You knows how to hit Colston Lovelin very much might

840
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: be the only thing he knows how to do in

841
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 3: the passing game, but that definitely gives them a little

842
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: bit of a flare on that offense that we have

843
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: not seen before. What I do not get is why

844
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: they continue to use alex Orgy in the manner that

845
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 3: they are, because it is so telegraphed he's not going

846
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: to throw the ball. There was that play in the

847
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: fourth quarter on a big fourth down. They're trying to

848
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: get back in this thing. They need to score a touchdown.

849
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: Instead of bringing Davis Warren into try and throw another

850
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: touchdown pass, which he had done very nicely earlier in

851
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: the game, they bring in alex Orgie. They try a

852
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: gadget play where it's homage Morgan throwing to alex Orgi.

853
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's a throwback. Yes, it was a pitch

854
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 2: to Samaje Morgan, a backwards pass, alex Orgy going out

855
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: mateo Oui Anglla staying with him. The defensive end, the

856
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: edge rusher for Oregon. It not being there.

857
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: If you're going to bring the backup quarterback in, yeah,

858
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 3: if you want to throw the ball, what like, shouldn't

859
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: the quarterback be the one throwing the ball? Sometimes it works,

860
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: but in that moment, it just felt like it felt

861
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: like an unnecessary Well, there's.

862
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: Just no threat of a dropback situation on fourth and goal.

863
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: With alex Orgi, there's no threat of that telegraphed.

864
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: And so I think, if I'm a Michigan fan, that's

865
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 3: what I'm most frustrated with. The quarterback thing was always

866
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: going to be weird. Now you lose Jack Tuttle, that's unfortunate. Yes,

867
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 3: these are the guys that you're rolling with. Now the

868
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 3: rest of the year, you're rolling with Davis Warren, you're

869
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: rolling with alex Orgie. I think the balance they had

870
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: a week ago is pretty good. Right this week, I

871
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 3: don't know if there was much of a balance at all,

872
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 3: because we knew what was going to happen.

873
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: Every time alex Orgie came in. He was gonna run

874
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: the football.

875
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Speaker 2: He threw one ball away, He threw one away at Yah,

876
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Speaker 2: threw one away.

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Speaker 1: He did have a nice run he did down the

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Speaker 1: left sideline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was keeping track and it's like one

880
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: out of every seven times he gets the ball. You

881
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: get like a decent size game, and those don't seem

882
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: like good odds, especially when you're in a high leverage

883
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Speaker 3: moment late in the game. You need a touchdown and

884
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Speaker 3: try and get back into the game.

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Speaker 2: Well, and when you find yourself on second and eight

886
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: second and nine second and eleven when he comes in

887
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: on first down and you're just behind the sticks with

888
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: Alex Orgie more often than not, and it was I

889
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 2: don't think it makes a difference, honestly. Like the number

890
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Speaker 2: of plays that Davis Warren was able to make was impressive.

891
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: It was basically to one guy between the twenties or

892
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: you know, for the first eighty yards of the field

893
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Speaker 2: in Colston Lovelin, which was great. If you could make

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00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: it work, that's great. Found a couple guys in the

895
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Speaker 2: end zone, great. He was very good in short yardage,

896
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Speaker 2: goal line situations. This was not a team that I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not a team that's built to separate itself from

898
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Speaker 2: decent teams, let alone beat decent teams at this point

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Speaker 2: in the season, given their quarterback situation, the rhythms for

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Speaker 2: Oregon were impressive. Evan Stewart definitely dropped that touchdown pass.

901
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: The Big Ten definitely should have reviewed it. The Big

902
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Speaker 2: Ten kind of screwed Oregon over in that Ohio State game,

903
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: kind of screwed Michigan over in this game. Probably made

904
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Speaker 2: a difference in the Ohio State game probably would not

905
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: have made the difference. In this game. Oregon ran strongly.

906
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: They suffered. You know, their best receiver went down in

907
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: Tesed Johnson early on. I think he's gonna be out

908
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: for a long stretch of time. We'll see if that

909
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: comes to bite Organ on some level. He's Dylan Gabriel

910
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: safety blanket. But Oregon had a complete performance when it

911
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: seemed like the pocket was breaking down. Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in a complicated place to play, In.

913
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Speaker 2: A complicated place to play. Crowd was into this game.

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00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Michigan was able to get some stuff. It was Dylan

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Speaker 2: Garbriel is able to succeed downfield.

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Speaker 3: In a year in college football where it feels like

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Speaker 3: there is a lot of uncertainty abound. Right this is

918
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Speaker 3: the best team in college football, if nothing more than

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Speaker 3: the most consistent.

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Speaker 2: Right now, They're they're the hinds ward as Bain blows

921
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Speaker 2: up the field in Yeah dark is it dark Knight?

922
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Speaker 2: Dark Knight?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

924
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no dark Knight rises, yes, So yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 2: very nice that if Oregon is having longer stretches beat

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Speaker 2: against Indiana, be it against Michigan State, be it against

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Speaker 2: Michigan today as we record this, that they're winning this

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Speaker 2: by three touchdowns, that they're winning not clunkers but semi

929
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Speaker 2: stalled games by multiple scores. So look, this is any

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Speaker 2: other results you want to rattle through. Just like to

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Speaker 2: tip your cap to anybody anything particular. AB won a game,

932
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Speaker 2: UA B won a game. We could tip our cap

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Speaker 2: to U. C.

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Speaker 1: L Ay.

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Speaker 3: We will have more to discuss on that game as

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Speaker 3: we get a little bit deeper into the Bailey looked

937
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Speaker 3: pretty good against Stanford. Yeah, absolutely had a nice day

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Speaker 3: for NC State. Only missed two throws, so kudos to him.

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Speaker 3: Omar and Hampton had a huge day for North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to dunk too much on Florida State,

941
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Speaker 3: but just not a good performance for them. They gave

942
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Speaker 3: up seven sacks and ten tackles for loss from a

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Speaker 3: UNC defense.

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Speaker 1: That is, let's be honest, not the show.

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Speaker 2: It's prett blow average. By the way, speaking of elite losers,

946
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Speaker 2: what did you freeze?

947
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Speaker 1: Do you freeze?

948
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Speaker 2: Lost to Vandy and diego Pavia again again.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen to seven, and you know, shout out Asu mentioned

950
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Speaker 3: Asu before, Yeah, ESU winning forty two to twenty one.

951
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: Sam Levitt really nice game over Oklahoma State. So look,

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Speaker 3: we're almost out of battery juice here. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to lose this audio again. Thanks for bearing with us.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate your patience. We will be back on Tuesday

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Speaker 3: with a more complete preview of the things that we

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Speaker 3: did not discuss here as we have a chance to

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Speaker 3: sounds a little bit different, but we're kind of back

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Speaker 3: to our roots.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna make sure it sounds good. Come back to

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Speaker 2: our roots.

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Speaker 1: Just kind of going with the flow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, help, we've got a plane. We got a

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Speaker 2: plane maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We have a little bit of a plane coming in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. For that guy over there, Dan Rubenc for myself,

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Speaker 3: Tie Hildebrand, as always, staytes like piece