WEBVTT - The Transfer Portal (So Far)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal For me, I'm a man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be happy. You want to be happy for

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<v Speaker 1>a day? Edith state is that? Woo woof? And Dan

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<v Speaker 1>and Tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Salid Rebel Boys and Girls. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Tai Hill, the brand, that fine gentleman over there,

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<v Speaker 2>the one, the only still after all this time, the

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<v Speaker 2>incomparable Dan Rubinstein, Sir, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sir, how are you? I'm good? I was hoping

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<v Speaker 1>you were ready with the Leanne Rhymes drop of still

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<v Speaker 1>the one or I don't know if you're a was

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<v Speaker 1>it Leanne Rhymes? Or who is the other one?

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<v Speaker 2>That?

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<v Speaker 1>Shania Twain?

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<v Speaker 2>Still the one? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So who did the competing? There was from con Air?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the the song at the end of How

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<v Speaker 1>Do I Live? That was how Do I Live? That

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<v Speaker 1>was Leanne Rhymes? So there were two versions though, oh

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<v Speaker 1>it was There was a Faith Hill version and a

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<v Speaker 1>Leanne Rhymes version. I believe I.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe Leeann Rimes had it first, right did she? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll look this.

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<v Speaker 1>Up starting the show of fire here Okay, still the one? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Shania Twain? That makes sense. So yeah, I'm I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't spend all of our money licensing that song

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<v Speaker 1>for you to drop at the beginning of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm glad I'm still the one in your eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>because as we get into today's episode, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of players out there looking at their current schools,

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<v Speaker 1>are now past schools, and saying, you know, maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>not still the one now, maybe you're not the one

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<v Speaker 1>for me. So I think we accidentally stumbled on quite

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<v Speaker 1>a nice segue in the audio world.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you call a pro segue, boys and girls,

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<v Speaker 2>because we certainly did not plan that, but Daniel stuck

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<v Speaker 2>the landing. Thank you as always for joining me, and

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<v Speaker 2>All sorts of stuff going on here in theverbawlerhood, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to keep track of it all, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited for each and every one of those items that

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, as as I'm thinking about my takes on

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<v Speaker 1>these transfers.

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<v Speaker 2>So here is the way that this show is going

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<v Speaker 2>to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have talked at.

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<v Speaker 2>Nauseum about the Bowl games. We did a huge Bowl preview.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go back and listen Monday, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday of last week, we went through in two batches

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<v Speaker 2>all of the Bowl games they started playing. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>our Winter Wonders confidence pool is well under way. Was

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<v Speaker 2>pleased to see that a number of folks took my

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<v Speaker 2>advice and wagered a bunch of their points early. Because

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<v Speaker 2>of the way that the game was set up, it

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<v Speaker 2>gave you the option to put a boatload of points

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<v Speaker 2>on Jackson State, and why wouldn't you put a boatload

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<v Speaker 2>of points on day up?

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<v Speaker 1>And it really sold me on that tie. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, guests who just got thirty one to.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten, they lose to South Carolina State the Celebration Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, that one left to mark. But otherwise, folks

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<v Speaker 2>are having fun with the Winter Wonders game and we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it over in the overball Er discord on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 2>But we talked about that, and you talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>recruiting game with a good friend Brandon Hoffman from twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to seven Sports. I did, and we talked obviously

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<v Speaker 2>and nause about coaching news with our friend Bruce Fellman

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<v Speaker 2>and others. Pete Sampson, Ryan Abraham on the Monday Show.

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<v Speaker 1>What we haven't talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the transfer portal. That's also true, the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 2>So the transfer portal has been gaining steam, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>over the last couple of seasons, more guys are taking

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of the transfer portal, and now because of a

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<v Speaker 2>rule change, the one time transfer rule whereby you can

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<v Speaker 2>just throw your name in there and if you find

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<v Speaker 2>a new home, you can go and you can play

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<v Speaker 2>immediately Noah Sands or Butts. Yeah, this thing has taken

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<v Speaker 2>on a whole new life. It is gotten far, far, far,

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<v Speaker 2>far far more significant as a postseason story, at least

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<v Speaker 2>in our world here in college football, because so many

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<v Speaker 2>guys are going to use it now to try and

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<v Speaker 2>find new opportunities. So it has been very active, not

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<v Speaker 2>just on the coaching front, but also on the I

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<v Speaker 2>guess secondary market, the black market when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>all things recruiting. So many big names in the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna play a little game here today, aren't

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<v Speaker 2>we We are?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if yeah, I guess we didn't name

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<v Speaker 1>the game per se or do you have one in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I have some sounds. I know you have some sounds

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<v Speaker 1>I do, so I guess we can just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>determine whether or not based on the actual decision to transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course we are not privy to the personal

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<v Speaker 1>reasons for these guys, and how we foresee it going

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<v Speaker 1>for some already declared destinations for the guys who have

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<v Speaker 1>entered and now left the portal for the new destination,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll just evaluate our thoughts on them whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not it is a successful journey, or will be a

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<v Speaker 1>successful journey, or will be fraught with unforeseen danger.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is how we're going to frame this out. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you heard the transfer portal sound. I've had this one

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<v Speaker 2>for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. That's from Super.

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<v Speaker 2>Mario Brothers or Super Mario Brothers, as the cultured among

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<v Speaker 2>us would say. There are three things that could happen

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<v Speaker 2>when you try to jump down a flower pot or

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<v Speaker 2>a warp pipe, if you want to get specific. In

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<v Speaker 2>the old Mario games. The first is it can take

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<v Speaker 2>you far ahead in the game. It can catapult you

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<v Speaker 2>to a better space. It can also take you sort

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<v Speaker 2>of sideways into a bonus or an underground world where

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<v Speaker 2>you're really just trying to scoop up coins. Let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>sure of course, and the final thing that can happen

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<v Speaker 2>to you is you die. As we know, because parah

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<v Speaker 2>of plants hide in those things. You don't always know.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you know, you don't really know if it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a parana plan or if it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>take you to like World number seven.

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<v Speaker 1>To be clear, you're not going to die if you

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<v Speaker 1>transfer to South Carolina. That we know, probably not right,

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<v Speaker 1>Probably probably not? Yeah, probably not. Yeah. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 1>this we are. We are in the midst of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people not just deciding whether or not they

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<v Speaker 1>want to enter the portal, but where they go, what

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<v Speaker 1>factors are important to them. You know, if this is

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<v Speaker 1>a long term, if you have two three years of

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<v Speaker 1>eligibility left, is it the right move?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that the sound when you were underwater and potentially

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<v Speaker 2>drowning from Mario three?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think you're making a decision that like some

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<v Speaker 1>toad layer about oh you have to pick like the

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<v Speaker 1>or the toad suit. Yeah, no, Ty, You're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is, though, because this the transfer window,

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<v Speaker 1>guys are leaving in the middle of the season saying

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<v Speaker 1>they're entering the portal when things aren't going their way

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<v Speaker 1>and they're a limited number of spots. Sometimes you can't

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<v Speaker 1>hurried up, you know, you just quarterback transfers here, quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>transfers there. I love the competing soundboard thing is either

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<v Speaker 1>the best or worst thing ever to happen to this show.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're absolutely right, Tie, you end up going down

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong tube, the wrong portal. Yeah, there it is,

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<v Speaker 1>could go wrong, but you go to the right place. Kyler, Murray, Baker, Mayfield,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts and you're just hammering, Buddy, you're just hammering

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<v Speaker 1>on the video. They don't just make it like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't make game music like they used to. So no,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's go down the list of the highest profile

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<v Speaker 1>or the most intriguing, unexpected whatever transfers across the sport,

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<v Speaker 1>be it quarterback, be it defensive line, be it I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to this guy. To me, he decided to transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to take his talents elsewhere, and he's I

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<v Speaker 1>am assuming, recruiting current Oregon players and commits because that's

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<v Speaker 1>who he is. I'm not salty, Tie, I'm just not

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<v Speaker 1>h Where we starting. We're starting with Spencer Ratler, were

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<v Speaker 1>starting Dylan Gabriel. We got start a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta start with quinn Ewers. Let's go quinn yours

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<v Speaker 2>gotta start with quinn Ewers. So quinn Ewrs was a

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<v Speaker 2>top recruit in the twenty twenty one class, reclassified so

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<v Speaker 2>he can get to Ohio State. Early projected as a

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<v Speaker 2>top ten pick out of high school. I think got

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<v Speaker 2>a one point zero zero zero rating from twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>to seven Sports, which is on the level of like

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence. He's really good or at least coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of high school, very very good. Totally we called this transfer,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like after week one of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we called a major transfer. Like the Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State quarterback room was just not going to be big

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<v Speaker 1>enough to hold c. J. Stroud, quinn Ewrs, Jack Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle McCort like all you like. Eventually this was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack Miller also left. Eventually this room was going

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<v Speaker 1>to thin out for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, quinn Ewers decides, Okay, I'm taking my talents elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one over over from south Lake, Texas, a northern

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<v Speaker 2>suburb of Dallas. There's no surprise that when he threw

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<v Speaker 2>his name in the portal. The Texas schools were the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that I think immediately got a lot of steam.

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<v Speaker 2>He ended up at ut YEP with Steve Sarkesian. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no way this can't be positive. Okay, that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>it is certainly not a slam dunk. It is not

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<v Speaker 2>a slam dunk. Texas quarterbacks this year kind of got

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<v Speaker 2>worse as the year went on, and it's probably not

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<v Speaker 2>fair to lumpquin you. Weres into that, right, But I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think it's a slam dunk that him coming

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<v Speaker 2>aboard is going to take this program to the next level.

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<v Speaker 2>If he played defense, maybe we could talk. Defense was

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<v Speaker 2>really what got stuck in Texas's crawl second half of

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<v Speaker 2>the year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like the move.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's it's anything other than positive. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to be incredibly excited if you're a Texas fan

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<v Speaker 2>to get the number one overall recruit from the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one class, somebody who are really high ceiling, someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>from the state of Texas, Like that's all gravy. Sark's

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<v Speaker 2>been good with quarterbacks. That there's a lot to like here,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. I just I feel like there are other

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<v Speaker 2>transfers that we're going to talk about. That to me

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<v Speaker 2>feel like more of a slam dunk is something that's

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<v Speaker 2>just going to accelerate a program forward. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's a total, incomplete slam dunk. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's great. I think to have that level of talent.

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<v Speaker 1>To look at, first of all, what Texas was able

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<v Speaker 1>to do with this specific recruiting class. I know there

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh is Quen you were part of the

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<v Speaker 1>class of twenty twenty two. Obviously he had reclassified and

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's part of the incoming players coming right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'd like to see from Texas is what does

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<v Speaker 1>the receiver room look like moving forward? They brought in

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<v Speaker 1>good offensive line talent in this class, another area where

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<v Speaker 1>they need to improve. But given Sarks a recent success

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback, and you mentioned look, Hudson Card was named

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<v Speaker 1>the starter, did not work out, replaced by Casey Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>who showed a lot of promise early on, bombed downfield

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<v Speaker 1>really well. Xavier Worthy was a freshman who popped. The

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<v Speaker 1>receiving room is still somewhat thin to me. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a game changing running back and Casey Thompson entered the

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<v Speaker 1>portal wasn't named the starter then was hurt him? I

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<v Speaker 1>think he hurt his thumb, by the way, So that

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<v Speaker 1>is at least a partial reason why quarterback play fell

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<v Speaker 1>off at times. That's during the during the Texas season.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I mean you want to give your what

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<v Speaker 1>do you Your phrase is what as many bites at

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<v Speaker 1>the apple as possible? Yeah, Look, Texas has a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>with seemingly unlimited arm talent whatever that seems to mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and is enthusiastic is coming back to his own state.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's a huge, like a humongous win. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge. I don't see any downside at all to this,

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<v Speaker 1>other than there is going to be more pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>him than an ordinary Texas quarterback, of which there's already

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of pressure to succeed there. And look, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen what mac Jones was able to do, We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>what all sorts of guys you know, to a with Sark,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm I'm entirely optimistic that this will be

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<v Speaker 1>a success story. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I am not saying it's a bad thing to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's a huge win for Sark.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about a dub, but he's but he's not the

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<v Speaker 1>missing piece. He's not the Texas and the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not the missing piece, and I hope for his

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<v Speaker 2>sake people don't treat him as such. He can definitely

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<v Speaker 2>take the offense to another dimension. Sure, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there's any question about that if he lives up to

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<v Speaker 2>the billing. But they got to figure out the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Defense was very much lacking and.

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<v Speaker 1>Can and the incoming class has a lot of interesting

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<v Speaker 1>pieces that could be rotation guys pretty early on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we feel pretty good, right, we feel

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<v Speaker 2>good ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd like to see who else comes in in

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<v Speaker 1>the portal. By the way, for Texas, that to me

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the fascinating thing. They lost a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of guys, but yeah, this is just going to

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<v Speaker 1>be I think another active score. This is what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with a new coach and a new coach who has

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<v Speaker 1>seen what he has or doesn't have after a year.

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<v Speaker 1>So yep, I'll win.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's stay in the Great State of Texas, and let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Max Johnson. Max Johnson transferring over to A

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<v Speaker 2>and M from LSU. He just announced that a few

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<v Speaker 2>days ago. It's unclear to me why this happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that his younger brother, Jake is a four star

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<v Speaker 2>tight end in the twenty twenty two class, also committed

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<v Speaker 2>to A and M. What like, was this a move

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<v Speaker 2>to keep Jake on the on the roster? Like, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they lose that Calzada right to the portal before the

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<v Speaker 2>season even ends, and we talked about them, what starting

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<v Speaker 2>they lost one quarterback to the tight end room. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and they could be starting a walk on in their

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<v Speaker 2>bowl game. It just seems like there's not that many people.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a huge commit signee coming in, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to rely on a true freshman when that

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<v Speaker 2>roster has been built to the point where it should

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<v Speaker 2>be competing for the SEC. So he's experienced the upside

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<v Speaker 2>of Max Johnson is winning SEC football. We know what

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<v Speaker 2>the downside is and we know the upheaval and LSU

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these guys in a lot of these situations.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll definitely get into with bo Nix and Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>is talking yourself into a better fit at a new destination, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's and that's I think where I have right

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<v Speaker 2>some questions about this. I understand your total A and

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<v Speaker 2>M perspective, right, Yeah, Kalzada is walking out. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>know yet really what you have with Haines King, Connor Wegman,

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<v Speaker 2>your incoming, you know, quarterback of the future, perhaps compared

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<v Speaker 2>to Dak Prescott by twenty four to seven. Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good comp You feel good about that if you're

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<v Speaker 2>an A and M fan and their class was Gangbusters.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're Jimbo Fisher, Yeah, I get it. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to add a skilled hand, somebody who can go

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<v Speaker 2>in there and at least give you what Calzada did. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and can Max Johnson do. Yeah, he's definitely an upgrade

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<v Speaker 2>over Zach Calzada. Oh h yeah, I think Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it totally from Jimbo's perspective. What I don't get

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<v Speaker 2>it is from Max's perspective. Is there because there are

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<v Speaker 2>definitely programs out there where he could go and wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to compete to be a starter. So he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to A and M where he's got two

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<v Speaker 2>other guys at least that are also competing for that job,

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<v Speaker 2>both of whom probably have more arm talent. Like why

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<v Speaker 2>would he put himself in that situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he wants to win on the highest level and

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<v Speaker 1>believes he can beat out his competition Haines King coming

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<v Speaker 1>off of an injury and a true freshman like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that like Haines King was not bulletproof and the

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<v Speaker 1>very small window we saw him in. And so if

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<v Speaker 1>you're Max Johnson, you think to yourself, Okay, they've recruited

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<v Speaker 1>on a crazy good level. I will be put into

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<v Speaker 1>a position. And now you have to remember Dad is

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Johnson goes way back FSU Jimbo Fisher. Right, there's

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<v Speaker 1>that connection there. So there's a certain amount of trust

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Max Johnson and saying this guy has a reputation,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not the most fair recently, but has a reputation

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<v Speaker 1>for developing quarterbacks. Well, whereas the upheaval at LSU coming

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<v Speaker 1>off of whatever, you know, Max Johnson getting two different

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<v Speaker 1>coordinators in two years, a lame duck coach, like, we

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<v Speaker 1>all need fresh starts sometimes. And so if you're Max Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>you say, Okay, I will be throwing two guys a

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<v Speaker 1>receiving room that's growing and becoming more and more impressive,

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<v Speaker 1>behind a growing offensive line that's young. That's interesting. Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>if he goes somewhere he's guaranteed to start. There's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a reason why that place has a guaranteed starting spot

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<v Speaker 1>for him, and that's probably because they haven't able to

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<v Speaker 1>find a quarterback. They haven't been able to find a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback who wants to play behind that line or throw

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<v Speaker 1>to those receivers. And so I don't know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to take a chance on yourself sometimes. And if a

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<v Speaker 1>major program like A and M says, yeah, we can

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<v Speaker 1>plug you in and we think we can win ten

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<v Speaker 1>plus games, I know, I understand being seduced by that.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do, Yeah, I get it. I just I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a huge Max Johnson fan. I like him a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more at the end of last season than I did

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<v Speaker 2>through the courses this year, and it was a tumultuous year.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I have nothing against him personally, obviously, but it just

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<v Speaker 2>seems like an odd fit to me. So for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're kind of saying the same thing though.

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<v Speaker 2>This is definitely not the kind of move that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to catapult A and M to playoff or sec

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<v Speaker 2>you know, championships, But it's also not a step back, right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very much a sideways move that at worst

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<v Speaker 2>case scenario is going to build depth in that quarterback room.

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<v Speaker 2>We feel about same on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to start. I honestly, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, with who he's competing against, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>likely the starter. I don't think it's just a depth play.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he will not give. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>was given assurances that he would start, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was given assurances that it might be a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>advantageous battle. I mean, you're right, and look, he's succeeded

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<v Speaker 1>against some teams in the SEC. He has that experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I totally get it. If you're Max Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, I believe myself to be a high

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<v Speaker 1>level SEC quarterback and this is a place that I

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<v Speaker 1>can step into and have my talents maximized.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, do we agree that it's more sideways

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<v Speaker 2>than a huge jump forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think so. Yeah. I think yeah, had to play,

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<v Speaker 1>he would There are opportunities high G five, low power

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<v Speaker 1>five where I think he could have stepped into and

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<v Speaker 1>bitten an assured starter and succeed. But I think all

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<v Speaker 1>of those places have lower ceilings in terms of his development.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, dude, talk to me about bo Nix. To

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon must we I both gave this immediate consideration when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that he entered the portal because of the

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<v Speaker 1>connection to Kenny Dillingham, Oregon's new offensive coordinator, given their

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<v Speaker 1>their ties together at Auburn a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's sort of the same, Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Auburn criticism and a lot of Auburn

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<v Speaker 1>fan opinion of Bonnicks was similar to Oregon opinion and

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:09.400
<v Speaker 1>fan criticism of Anthony Brown in that he would struggle

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<v Speaker 1>to throw within the rhythm of the offense, just taking

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<v Speaker 1>a snap play action, step into the pocket, throw it

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<v Speaker 1>to the dude who should be open because the defense

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<v Speaker 1>is in cover three or whatever. That he had to

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<v Speaker 1>improvise and play hero ball a little bit too much,

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<v Speaker 1>check down a little bit too early. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a famous clip of Gus Malsh looking perplexed as to

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<v Speaker 1>why bon Nicks immediately checked a ball down when he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't being pressured or like. There was just those clips

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<v Speaker 1>out there, which I think I'm sure was very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to if you had a camera trained on Joe moorehead

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<v Speaker 1>at Oregon. So we know his upside is how we

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<v Speaker 1>finished the twenty twenty one season before he got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>He played really well in three of those final four

0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.440
<v Speaker 1>games against the Mississippi Schools in Arkansas, and didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>well against A and M. I believe if he's the

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<v Speaker 1>starter opens the year against Georgia next year and has

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<v Speaker 1>not performed all that well against the Dogs. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you are an Oregon fan, and if you are bon Nicks,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're an Oregon fan, you're saying, look, he was

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<v Speaker 1>playing in under an inordinate amount of pressure at Auburn,

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<v Speaker 1>given his last name given, winning the starting job as

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<v Speaker 1>a true freshman, because obviously Joey Gatewood was not of

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<v Speaker 1>that quality and Malik Willis was not ready to be

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<v Speaker 1>of that quality, and so he left before bon Nix's start.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he beats Oregon. So there's like all this

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<v Speaker 1>pressure right away, though like oh man, even though that

0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:27.400
<v Speaker 1>game he had wasn't so good, he threw the game

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<v Speaker 1>when he passed, there's all this pressure. And there's the

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<v Speaker 1>picture of him at the twenty ten National Championship game.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we've seen this story in a different version.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen the story, like, right, Kyler Murray comes in

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<v Speaker 1>as the number one guy and has all these issues

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<v Speaker 1>at Texas A and M. It's a bad fit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in and out whatever I mean. Bon Nicks was

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<v Speaker 1>benched against Georgia State this year and came back strong

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<v Speaker 1>when he won the job back. I guess if you're

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 1>talking yourself into it, it's change of change of coast,

0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:01.119
<v Speaker 1>change of geography, change of coaches, change of pressure. Walking

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<v Speaker 1>into a place that should have a better offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>and better skill talent. Because the Auburn receiving room wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>all that great this year. It's just sort of nobody

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<v Speaker 1>emerged as a true number one guy. So the thinking

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<v Speaker 1>is fresh start. You know, it's a new Bonnix. He

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<v Speaker 1>showed signs this year of taking a step forward. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's not throwing into the Georgia defense the Alabama defense. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's throwing to the Georgia defense, but throwing into pack

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<v Speaker 1>twelve defenses. So it's a more advantageous spot for a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>My counter argument to that is we're three years into

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<v Speaker 1>the Boennicks experience and he's sort of, for better or worse,

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<v Speaker 1>is who he is. So I think it's probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to end up being a sideways experience for Bonicks and Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have the sound at the ready, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not so sure it's not a step back.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay for whom?

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<v Speaker 2>For Oregon?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they have quarterbacks in the future, at least one

0:22:56.400 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that Oregon fans feel good about, TDD Thompson. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think can be good in a very specific system

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<v Speaker 1>where you're not asking him to do too much. Okay,

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>what do we know about what Kenny Dillingham's going to do?

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>We have any kind of clue as to what that

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 1>scheme is going to look like with him at the helm.

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>All I've heard is Dan Lanning had a quote. New

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Oregon head coach Dan Lanning had a quote that said,

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>just because I have a defensive background doesn't mean we

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 1>won't be airing it out. See that's not what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to Bone Knicks.

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently Lane Kiffin wanted bon Nix allegedly, But Lane

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Kiffin has a much better quarterback background than I think

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 1>anybody on the Oregon staff has at the moment.

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I mean I was high on bon Knicks

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.959
<v Speaker 2>when he was a true freshman, and I remember his

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 2>first game, and his first game wasn't good, but then

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 2>he pulled out some last second heroics, and yeah, such

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 2>began the early legacy of bon Nicks, and it's been

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of love hate with him the rest of the way.

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 2>He's had flashes and then he's had some pretty low

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 2>lows out there. Yeah, this year in particular, this move

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of surprised me because bo Nix is a legacy.

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 2>His father went to Auburn, and it seemed as if,

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 2>at least to some extent, he had turned a corner.

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 2>And we had talked a year about it being kind

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 2>of like a different bo Knicks, a different bo Knicks,

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 2>but not leaning on him as heavily, and it seemed

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 2>like they got more out of him.

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 1>So he definitely took some of those throws against Arkansas.

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>It was really impressive.

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I agree, So I thought bo Nix hac quitted himself.

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>It surprised me to hear that he was leaving, and

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 2>it surprised me even more to hear that Oregon might

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 2>want to bring him up there. So, you know, it

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>reminds me a little bit of the circumstance we just

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 2>talked about with Max Johnson. I don't think bow Knicks

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>is going to transform this Oregon offense under Kenny Dillingham

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 2>into something that it hasn't been. Oregon has been synonymous

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 2>with really good offense, for better or worse, whether that's

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 2>a good comparison or not, ever since Chip Kelly left,

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 2>and so I don't think that bow Knicks is going

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 2>to get them back to that level. I do think

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 2>he can give them some quarterback depth. I do think

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 2>he's better than Anthony Brown, which at the minimum is

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 2>not a bad thing. I am curious though, as to

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 2>how him coming to the Pacific Northwest is going to

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 2>impact the quarterback rope, because, as he said, they they've

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 2>got Ty Thompson, who everybody's really excited about. Right. Is

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>he going to see this and be put off and

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 2>decide that he wants to go into the portal like what.

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>He apparently he apparently tweeted out ten toes down, which

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I had to look up what that means. Okay, it

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>means you're all in right, your feet are in front

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>of you all you know, you're you're sold on the ground,

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>you're moving forward, uh not moving away, moving forward, and

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>you're you're fully committed.

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I get that. I get that, but you just, especially

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 2>in this era, you worry about any kind of knock

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 2>on effect from this, of course, so it could be

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 2>a situation like we're describing at A and M, where

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe bo Nix is the starter week one.

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he has two years of eligibility, right,

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>We got two years eligibility out, so.

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 2>I I'm very skittish about turning the reins of a

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 2>brand new offense over to Boonix. I felt much better

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 2>about Bonnicks coming back to Auburn after what we saw

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>this year, but the fact that he's leaving, right, I

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 2>would almost rather if I were an Oregon fan, have

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 2>a fresh start with ty Thompson. Fresh start, new coordinator, Yeah,

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>new quarterback, Let's move forward, let's accept some growing pains

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>if you really believe in the kid. But bo Nick's

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 2>transforming this thing, I for me kind of feels like

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 2>a step back. I'm not into it.

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, look, I get it from the organ

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>perspective of needing experience. There's no experience in that quarterback room. Zero.

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:47.919
<v Speaker 1>Like ty Thompson has played a couple of games in

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 1>garbage time, presumably Kenny Dillingham has either heard or watched

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>practice cut ups and said, we need more than this.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>We definitely need more than this, and so I think,

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>at worst you're get what you've already seen, and at

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>best you're getting an improved situation. So that's why I'm

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>going sideways. You were pretty down on bon Nicks for

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the better. Sideways isn't fun. I don't think the bone

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>like he was inaccurate. He was inconsistent at best downfield.

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Some of the simple throws he just couldn't make all

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:21.119
<v Speaker 1>the time, which was a bummer to watch. And you know,

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you're hopeful that now he's going to be a fourth

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>year guy that you know there'll be incremental improvement. And

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm not high on the move at the moment,

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and I like to judge. You know, you listen to

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>even rational Auburn fans because they do exist, and they're like, well,

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that's the Bonix experience, which is kind of how I

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>felt about the Mario Cristo Baal and lack of finding

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback experience last year. So I'm not excited. I'm

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>not excited, but I can see the architecture. I can

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>see the framing of how it works out, at least

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>in a positive way. I'm just not there.

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Dylan Gee, Let's talk about another PAC

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 2>twelve transfer, Dylan Gabriel transferring out from UCF going to UCLA.

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>This is a big move.

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 2>So Dylan Gabriel through for thirty six hundred yards his

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 2>first year, almost thirty six hundred yards a second year

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>as over sixty touchdown passes to just eleven interceptions, and

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>two full seasons got hurt earlier in the year for UCF.

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Has decided that he's going to UCLA, which is a

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 2>really interesting move for Chip Kelly. He's a smaller guy,

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>he's five to eleven, he's one eighty six. He's definitely

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 2>not a runner. So it's a different kind of quarterback

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 2>than DTR, but undeniably better passer, undeniably better passer, much

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 2>more consistent on that side of things. Again, for a situation,

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I think, for sure would be more helpful if he

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>could play defense. But as quarterback play goes, I don't

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 2>think there's any two ways about this being a clear

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 2>and immediate upgrade over what they've had. And d TR

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>was okay at his moments. He was inconsistent, but DTR,

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I think, all things considered, was it took a step

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 2>forward this year.

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>He was fine.

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was okay, I really like this move.

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I just I'm I'm unclear as to how he fits

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>into the offense and what the offense will look like.

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, But outside of that, to.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Get a talent like a Dylan Gabriel, I think it's

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>just like a huge dub for Chip Kelly.

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The question to me is because UCF had legit

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>strong receivers these past couple of years, and this was

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>an offense under Josh Hipel that was bombing it deep,

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>UCLA doesn't have those guys. Now, maybe they don't. Dylan

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Gabriel made those guys, but probably not because they've you know,

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Phillips is fine, but I think Kyle Phillips is

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>probably the third or fourth best receiver on a really

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>strong team. And if he's your number one guy, it's

0:29:56.480 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Greg Dulcich the tight end. Impressive, But who's Dylan Gabriel

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>throwing to. Are they bringing other receivers into the portal?

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Are their guys coming in as true freshman this year

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that they feel like are going to immediately step in

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and be part of a lethal offense. I kind of

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>get it from Dylan Gabriel's perspective in that you're from Hawaii,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Chip Kelly's guy. With Marcus Mariota, you're a lot closer

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>to home. You can step into the starting role a

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>lot more easily. I get it from his perspective of

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>just like fresh start. You know, Gus Malzan doesn't recruit him.

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's not a fit, whatever, But I don't know.

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's it's the Green and Yellow in me saying

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>like why wouln't you just go to Oregon? Then why

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>weren't you Just it's a new coach and obviously you know,

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Chip Kelly has the cachet as an offensive mine much

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>more so than whatever Kenny Dillingham. I don't even know

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 1>if that was even official, But like, I don't know,

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>if you want to go to the West Coast, I

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>felt like, you know, I mean, ASU wasn't making a change,

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>but USC, I don't know, it seems like there were

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess they're high on Jackson Dart, but

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the UCLA offensive situation. They ran the

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>ball pretty well at times, and so maybe that opens

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>things up, but even still, like who are you thrown to?

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Who's protecting you? And maybe it improves I know their

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator is a big offensive line guy and a

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>well respected dude in that world. I don't know. I

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>think UCLA has a severe lack of winter wonders that. Yeah,

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to become a shorter field than

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Dylan Gabriel's used to. Yeah, that will be interesting, And

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that's my question as well, because without the

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>receiving talent, there is an open question as to how

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>much they can utilize that arm talent from Dylan Gabriel.

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I still like the move. I still think it's a

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>great move. And if you've been following the portal as

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>we have, there was a lot of smoke that Spencer

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Ratler was going to end up at Easter, which we'll

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>talk about Spencer Ratler going to South Carolina momentarily here,

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>But so you know to what degree those two players

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>had influence over where one went or didn't go. That

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>remains to be seen. But Dylan Gabriel to Ucla, in

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>my some questions, might not take them all the way

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to World eight, but can it take them like two

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>or three worlds in the future. Can it give them

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 2>something of a lift on offense. I think it's one

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>less thing you have to worry about because it's definitely

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>an upgrade in the consistency department at quarterback, totally absent

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>of what the offense actually looks like. I think it's

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 2>just a better player. There is an injury concern there,

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.959
<v Speaker 2>and he is a bit of a smaller dude, so

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I think you worry about that a little bit. It's

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>not something that I'm going to go hook line and

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 2>sinker for, but I think it's definitely a positive direction

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>here for UCLA.

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Good move, Jake Bobo transferring in from Duke wide receiver CLA. Okay,

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>well that does it then, son of Mike, I think

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the same Mike Bobo.

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:49.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>We'll see, We'll see. You would really love for UCLA

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to to find more receiving talent in the portal uh,

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to maximize what del and Gabriel can be because.

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Are you saying sideways? Are you saying step forward for whom?

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 2>For UCLA?

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Step forward? For sure? I think Dylan Gabriel is definitely

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a step forward from dtr.

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's go over to Spencer Rattler. Yes, first question, is

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>he an upgrade over Zebede Yadaya Nol?

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, this is an upgrade over anybody in Colombia.

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree This was quite a surprising move mm hmm.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>When Spencer Rattler announced he's going to South Carolina along

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>with Austin Stoner, I believes how you say the name,

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>okay tight end from Oklahoma, both those guys coming over.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina's offense was atrocious last year, just atrocious. A

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of that stem from a bad offensive line, but

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>the cupboard was bare. They just did not have the

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>skill talent that could help this offense take a step forward.

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Shane Beemer still managed to get him to Bowl, which

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 2>was a hell of a job. So I think if

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>you look at the roster, clearly Spencer Rattler is the

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 2>best player on the offense. He's best player on the

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>offense immediately he steps in, and he's got a skill

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 2>set that nobody else possesses in Columbia. So that in

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>and of itself is incredible. He's going to be a

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>huge upgrade over quarterback. It may not catapult them to

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>nine and three, they're in the SEC East, but it

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>definitely brings some much needed stability to that quarterback position. So,

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 2>if ever there were a move in this cycle of transfers,

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.760
<v Speaker 2>my assumption is that Spencer Ratler going to South Carolina

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>with how bad their offense was. That's like a quantum

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>leap forward. I mean, you're not jumping from World one

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>to World six, you're jumping from Mario one to Mario three.

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>That's a huge step forward for shine Bee.

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's huge. It's a huge upgrade. I hesitate to

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's an amazing move for Spencer Rattler given the

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>offensive line struggles and the pressure that those quarterbacks were

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>under last year. You know, I think it was, but

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Josh Van emerged as the number one receiver for South Carolina.

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, it just seems like a worst

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>version of the issues he added Oklahoma behind that offensive

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>line and lack of a clear number one playmaker out wide.

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Maybe it's there's a personality conflict

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>between Spencer Rattler and the top of the sport, but

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:32.720
<v Speaker 1>it does feel like a pretty significant downgrade in terms

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of situation. It's definitely a downgrade. Yeah, it's definitely a downgrade.

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>But I get see I understand this move more for

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.439
<v Speaker 1>him than I understand the Max Johnson move. Yeah, because

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, if you're Max Johnson, you're stepping

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>into a hornet's nest where you're constantly gonna have to

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>shake guys off week in and week out.

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 2>You may not even be the opening day starter.

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Probably will Who is the big threat? Is it Haines King?

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:00.399
<v Speaker 2>It could be Haines King, It could be there they're

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 2>incoming freshmen. I don't know.

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean every top freshman is going to be

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the object of every fans design Hey, every four or

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:07.760
<v Speaker 1>five star quarterback.

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 2>But okay, so case in point, Yeah, maybe he starts

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 2>day one for A and M. Yeah, but what about

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 2>week four? There's going to be a constant threat because

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>those guys don't want to sit behind Max Johnson. And

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 2>they're really talented, at least we think so. I understand

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 2>why A and M would want to do it. But

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 2>if you're Max Johnson, why do you put yourself in

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that situation where if you truly want to go and

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>play and develop, if you want to play it though,

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 2>there's always where do you go? I mean, he could

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 2>have gone to South Carolina, he could have gone somewhere.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Would you rather if you are good, if you're a

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>B B plus quarterback or whatever the best of Max

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Johnson is, would you rather go to South Carolina or

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>roll the dice with A and M, like you would

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>get drilled at South Carolina as a quarterback, and a

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:55.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of them did this here.

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand why, if you're transferring, you wouldn't

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 2>go to a place where you know you're going to

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>play and you're not have that much competition.

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>From what I've heard, Spencer Rattler to ASU seemed like

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>that was going to be the clear path, given where

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>he's from. And then Jayden Daniels said no, I'm coming back,

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and AAC was like, what now, what's going on? You're what?

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.919
<v Speaker 1>And so I think that was probably what was going

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to happen. I think he had inquired with some Pack

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>twelve schools that looked to be trying to upgrade at quarterback,

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, it wasn't Oregon, it wasn't sc

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't UCLA. There was strong UCLA buzz with Spencer Ratler,

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>and they decided that they were going Dylan Gabriel or

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that just came through a little bit quicker than anticipated.

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Whatever had heard some things about Oregon that you know,

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>there was conversations there, but maybe that got scuttled for

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. So I don't know. South Carolina might have

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>been like his eleventh choice, who knows.

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 2>But at least he's gonna play. This is a guy,

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, was a preseason Heisman favorite. It didn't work out.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 2>We know that story by now. But at least he's

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna play. They're gonna make him the centerpiece of that offense.

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 2>And they may not win ten games, they may not

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 2>win eight games next year. And the line was bad,

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 2>really bad this season. So he's gonna have his work

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>cut out for him. For sure. He will be running

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 2>for his life. Maybe not as bad as like zeb Nolan,

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>but nonetheless he's gonna have his work cut out for him.

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I just you know he's gonna play. He's gonna get

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the reps unless he gets hurt. There's not really gonna

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 2>be a clear competitor, and so it just seems like

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>a path of least resistance if in fact your main

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 2>goal is to make sure you get playing time.

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Who's a quarterback away though? Right? Who? Who could have

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Spencer Rattler? This is bad English? But who is Who's like, Okay,

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.240
<v Speaker 1>this guy makes sense. We don't have a killer at quarterback.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>We know Spencer Ratler. Ceiling is excellence, just a crazy

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>good arm and has been able to lead you know,

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>one of the Big Twelve his first year as a

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>starter as a red shirt freshman. Like who is that team?

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Or just like, okay, this is the plug and play

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Florida State. I don't think they're just a quarterback away. No,

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Tech. Like you look, I don't know who it

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>is that. There are a lot of interesting quarterback openings.

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina has a quarterback of the future post Sam Howell.

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Like is Baylor a quarterback away to stay in the conference?

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I I mean the best of Gary

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Bohannon's interesting. I won the conference without amazing quarterback play.

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Good quarterback play. Kansas State. That's Skyler Thompson.

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Adrian Martinez.

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Now did he go to Kansas State? I mean we

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>see that. Yeah, oh okay, yeah, there are schools that

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>could improve at quarterback. But you're like, why would you

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>want to be the Iowa quarterback? Right, Like that's that's

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>no fun. So I don't I don't know who that

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>school is. That's what That's sort of the broader point

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 1>that like they're loaded at receiver, They've got good running backs,

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 1>a good offensive line, the defense holds its own. They

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>just need a quarterback. I guess you could make the

0:39:57.960 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 1>case for Oregon with how they've recruited the past couple

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>of year, but it's a big old question mark with

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>a new staff. So yeah, I mean there there are

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>like we can talk LSU Notre Dame, but I don't

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>know if they're you know, the reports of Spencer Rattler

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 1>being a little prickly. I don't know if there's personality

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:24.479
<v Speaker 1>fits everywhere. Yeah, this is a huge deal for South Carolina. Yeah,

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 1>it's huge. It's huge.

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 2>It may not work, but it's a huge deal for

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina for the offense and certainly for Shane Beemer. Yeah,

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 2>what a job he did in year one. Rattler also

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 2>stuff like all these guys and he gets in his

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 2>experience in Oklahoma helps.

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I love to move for him. I don't

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 2>fully understand it from the Spencer Rattler perspective, but he's

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>going to get playing time, which I think is most

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 2>important because he wants to go to the NFL. Yeah,

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>all right, where do you want to go next? What

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 2>other transfers drew your ire man? You know, I feel

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:02.320
<v Speaker 2>great about Jamir and his overall talent. I can do

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 2>this in the rank of twenty four to seven. Ranked

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 2>it in terms of transfer rating, not high school rating,

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 2>whether or not they've gone up or down, or a

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 2>state around the same level. So the top looks like

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 2>what Quinn yours. Eli Rix moves on from LSU Tobama,

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 2>which is just ridiculous.

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>B Yu gets a top offensive tackle commit in Kingsley Swamattaya.

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's how you pronounce Oregon didn't play any

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>meaningful football. I don't believe for Oregon is from the

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>state of Utah. Jamiir Gibbs is also rumored for Alabama.

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Zach Evans was an all everything running back who committed

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to like seven different schools coming out of high school.

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>He entered the portal from TCU, but they seem to

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>be like they're in okay shape at running back. Cameron

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Ward is the next one. I couldn't tell you that

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>much about him, but he was add incarnate word and

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was a I think a Walter Payton Award winning quarterback.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 1>So could be an intriguing, you know, Vernon Adams type

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>story for somebody. Jaden Hazelwood already made the move from

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma to Arkansas, which, given Traylon Burks leaving early, could

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>step right in and become a force for the Hogs.

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise I don't know. Like in terms of huge names

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 1>like Keaton Slovis, there was a report about Notre Dame.

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Is Notre Dame a school with a new coach with

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, Tyler Buckner being promising, but certainly didn't come

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>in and be like, yep, he is the guy for

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the next four years. Like, would you be anti Notre

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Dame bringing in a higher profile type quarterback into that room?

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I guess not. I I'm not a huge Keaton Slovis fan, Okay,

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 2>but is he better than Buckner? Maybe at the stage yet,

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean they have different skill sets. Buckner is more

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:48.839
<v Speaker 2>of a dual threat guy slo He's going to hang

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>in the pocket and he's been good in yeah, relatively

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 2>good in an air raid style system, so you know

0:42:55.680 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 2>he can throw. I just don't know what the full, unadulterated,

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>unencumbered Tommy Reese's experience is going to look like. I

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know what unencumbered by Brian Kelly's influence that is. Yeah,

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know what that's going to look like,

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 2>so I A think I try and air it out more.

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, we had an open question

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:20.240
<v Speaker 2>all year long as to who are Jack Cone slash

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Buckner's targets out wide, and it took them at least

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 2>three quarters of the way through the season to start

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 2>figuring out who those were outside of Michael Maher and

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I still don't you know, Kevin Austin came into his

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.839
<v Speaker 2>own down the stretch. I still don't know if we've

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 2>got any great depth at that receiver position going into

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 2>twenty two. Right, So there is an open question, like

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 2>we've asked with some of these other guys, who would

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>slowest be throwing to I. You know, I could throw

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 2>names out, but until one of them sticks out there

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 2>on the field, it's really just speculation.

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm okay with it. I guess so I

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>think he's I think he's pretty good. I think And

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this is something Ryan Abraham touched on on our USC

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>deep Dive, was we do sort of talk about like

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>what happened to the offense like and he mentioned like

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Drake London, for as amazing as he was, led the

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 1>nation in contested catches, because this offense became very easily

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>defensed people figured out Graham Harrell like drop into his

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>own do as much as you can to confuse Keten Slovas,

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's either gonna check down or he's gonna have

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to throw into contested spaces. And so if Tommy Reese

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>is a better offensive mind with obviously more continuity and

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a fired head coach two games into the

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>year or whatever, which he won't, then Keiden Slovas might

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>be in a better position to succeed. Like is Keeton

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Slovas that is he that much worse than Jack Cone?

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.959
<v Speaker 1>Like I think Jack Cone's pretty good. I think Keyton

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Slovas is pretty good. And so you run the risk

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of driving somebody away like Tyler Buckner. But I don't know.

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I think Keten Slovas is a pretty good Bilow candidate

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, like his his ceiling. And maybe it's

0:44:58.040 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 1>not a fit with Notre Dame, maybe it's a fit

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>some or else, but I think that USC offense got

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty stale pretty quickly, and especially given the changes, the

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 1>constant change in La No, I think Slovas could be

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like an interesting answer for somebody, not necessarily a quarterback away,

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>but somebody pretty large with like a Virginia Tech or

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Now that you know Braxton Burmeister, who

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I was never all that high on, now that that

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>seems to be a pretty open room, Like there are

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>interesting places that Keton Slovas would give them like a

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>definitive upgrade or as a bridge between, you know, a

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>previous era to the next big thing. So I'm okay

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>with Keithan. Maybe it's Arizona. I don't know he's from Arizona,

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.880
<v Speaker 1>but uh no, I think I think you can do

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:45.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot worse than Keten Slovas.

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 2>You can definitely do worse in Keaton Slovis. Don't listen

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 2>to me. I'm biased. I've always wanted to sell I've

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 2>always wanted to see more of Tyler Buckner. Yeah, I've

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:57.839
<v Speaker 2>always wanted to see more of Buckner. And perhaps I've

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>fallen victim to what we described earlier, the freshman quarterback

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.240
<v Speaker 2>always being the most popular guy in the quarterback.

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 1>But here's here's the thing too, And you're right, the

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>coaches are at practice. The coaches have that tape, and

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Buckner was given reps, like meaningful reps this year,

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and the coaches felt like he's not the guy like

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Jack Cone, didn't establish himself really until the latter part

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>of the season, right Brian Kelly was shuffling, you know,

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 1>series is whatever Drew Pine was getting time. Tyler Buckner

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>had an opportunity to be the guy this year, and

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it's okay that he wasn't. He was a freshman, but

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 1>they know what they have in him, for better or worse,

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and they started kicking the tires on Keaton Slovas pretty

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>early on after Slovas announced his intentions to enter the portal.

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:45.359
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine Tommy Reese knows what he has.

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.879
<v Speaker 2>I would assume, So yeah, I would assume. So it'll

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 2>be interesting to see. I mean, Notre Dame would be.

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure interested in a guy like a Slovas, and

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there will be other programs well, because he

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 2>is definitely a guy who came in I think as

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 2>a three star and has improved his stock. He's gotten

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 2>better now. This past season wasn't necessarily his finest work,

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 2>but there were circumstances there and I still do think

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 2>he's pretty talented. There was a moment in time where

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 2>people were talking up Keaton Slovas as a top ten

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 2>NFL quarterback. Sure, I don't think I'm quite as high

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 2>on him as that, but the talent is there. The

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 2>talent is evident, and yeah, you're bringing a guy like that,

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's a bad move. So I'm talking

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:31.959
<v Speaker 2>myself into it, even though I still want to see

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 2>more out of Tyler Buckner. Some others really that we

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 2>could mention. I talked about Adrian Martinez. He just announced,

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I think over the weekend or before this past weekend,

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 2>that he's going to go to Kansas State, which is

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 2>an interesting move for him, if only because what we've

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>seen at k State is they find ways to take

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 2>a playmaker at quarterback and basically make it the entire offense.

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>And he's sort of been doing that.

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Sure at Nebraska, perhaps he'll have a little bit more

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 2>support around him at case State, but I kind of

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 2>like that move for him. It doesn't feel like it's

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 2>a fish out of water at all. Like I think

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>that's a decent move on both sides.

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I think what we've seen historically under Chris Climban, whoever,

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a Kansas State team with above average quarterback play is

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna win eight games, like they just are, and if

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what Adrian Martinez brings, they're gonna win. I do

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>disagree that they're building the whole thing because Kansas State's

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 1>building the whole thing out of the shortest running back

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>take of long right. So I don't think this was

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a Skyler Thompson centric offense necessarily, But I definitely think

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Adrian Martinez would be an upgrade over Will Howard or

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 1>whoever else is in that room. And so that's fair.

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:49.879
<v Speaker 1>It does seem like this is a prime example, maybe

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 1>similar to bo Nicks. They're just like, you know, you

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.239
<v Speaker 1>put in your time, it didn't work out. There's all

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this baggage from your time there. You just need. You

0:48:57.560 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>need to move conferences, you need to move schools, you

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>need an entire different plays and see what's what. And

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.919
<v Speaker 1>so I think I think it's an upgrade to me. Yeah,

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I think kinds of the state has enough infrastructure in

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>place that a talented quarterback can thrive.

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the other thing that I think Adrian Martinez

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>can benefit from is whatever kind of discipline Chris Climan

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:21.360
<v Speaker 2>teaches at Kansas State. It has been kind of a

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 2>staple of that program ever since the bill Snyder Era. Yeah,

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.760
<v Speaker 2>but this is not really a program that shoots itself

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 2>in the foot.

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no.

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 2>They're really sound with the fundamentals, and Adrian Martinez could

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 2>benefit a lot from fewer mistakes in his game.

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So we'll root for.

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Him, you know, we'll root for him and see what

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 2>he can do at k State. I don't know if

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 2>it's official yet, but there seems to be a lot

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 2>of smoke on Casey Thompson going from Texas to TCU

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 2>makes sense, makes a lot of sense. Obviously, another Texas

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.320
<v Speaker 2>kid would throw the crap out of the ball.

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>A very friendly quarterback coach.

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for Sunny Dyke's so that would be an interesting

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 2>spot for him to land. I think I left my

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 2>move as well, Michael Penix to Washington given his familiarity

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 2>with Kaylen de Boor.

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts.

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we're ever going to capture that

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Michael Pennock's magic from twenty twenty.

0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we are.

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I get it, I get the connection, but I don't

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 2>We're like three injuries down the road from that twenty

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty season for Michael Pennix. I get it from his perspective,

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to recapture the magic. But I don't know, if

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 2>you're a Washington fan, are you excited about this?

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 1>It was also just kind of a disastrous year for

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Indiana football, and Michael Penick's just unfortunately, it is injury

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>prone and it might just be dumb luck. It probably

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.799
<v Speaker 1>is just dumb luck. But now you're running the risk

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.399
<v Speaker 1>if Kaylen de Boor is not a Sam Hewart fan.

0:50:57.440 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>He is the quarterback of the future, the legacy of

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the five s our guy, and came in in the

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Apple Cup and threw a whole bunch of interceptions. And

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that just you run the risk

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:08.400
<v Speaker 1>of driving somebody like that away, or if that even matters.

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:14.399
<v Speaker 1>But no, I think unfortunately, our opinion, or at least

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream viewpoint, as far as I can tell, viewpoint

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of Michael Pennix's. He dove in for a touchdown against

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Penn State, and he lit up Ohio State. But around

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 1>those edges, he hasn't been amazing. He hasn't been a

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>game changer, and it might just be because he's been

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 1>beat up. I get that that you're banking on a

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 1>healthy fresh start, I get it, But yeah, I don't know.

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how high I am on that decision.

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Another situation like who's he throwing to? Who's he throwing to?

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 1>A Washington The offensive line history has been good there,

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 1>but who's he throwing to? So that's that's sort of

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:47.439
<v Speaker 1>what I worry about.

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 2>OK.

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you have big picture? I don't know if there

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>are any other players you want to specifically talk about.

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 2>I just I want to call out a few that

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 2>are still at Harrison. Billy Transferring out of Tennessee was

0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:00.160
<v Speaker 2>a big name when he stepped foot on campus. Was

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 2>big time recruit Jack Miller. We mentioned Jack Miller earlier

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 2>from Ohio State. He is also in the portal. Chubb

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 2>a party yep. Once considered to yeah, be the quarterback

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 2>of the future of Florida State. Clearly not going to

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 2>be at Florida State. Tommy DeVito going to Illinois? Okay

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 2>from Syracuse our boy Tommy DEFIEDO. Yeah, Jack Sears transferring again?

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Saw that?

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? From Boise. Yeah. Hank Bachmeyer in his fourteenth year

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:38.399
<v Speaker 1>of eligibility yep ocralis North Carolina SMU promising receiver. Yeah.

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 1>What do you feel about the reality of where the

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 1>transfer portal is in the sports. I'm not asking you

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>if it's like is it good or bad and be

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:53.880
<v Speaker 1>like an absolutist about it. But this is a reality

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:59.799
<v Speaker 1>that we are talking about football coaching changes, recruiting and

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a portal as ways. And you know, I talked to

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Huffman a little bit about it. How there are

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:09.479
<v Speaker 1>like portal specific coordinators just monitoring who's good in the sport,

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 1>who's entered into the portal whatever. I guess a tampering

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>coordinator if you're gonna believe certain methods.

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:17.759
<v Speaker 2>See, that's that's a job. Not the tampering coordinator, No, no,

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I know, but the portal coordinator. That's a job you

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and I could do, don't you think?

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we'd be good at that. We would

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 1>need to meet many more high school coaches to be like,

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>well just going under the portal, could you? Yeah, we'd

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 1>have to figure that.

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Let me let me make the Google sheet for the

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 2>portal coordinator.

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me do that that I could do.

0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I would enjoy that.

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>That's that's totally good. You can do that. But it

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 1>is it is a reality, right that, Like this is

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>how roster construction works. Now in twenty twenty two, and

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 1>moving forward. So my question to you is do you

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 1>like it?

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Not?

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it should exist? Because that we're too

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 1>far into that, right, the immediate eligibility, the movement of

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks when it doesn't work out, when they don't get

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the job or any position, right, whether they're disappointed, or

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:07.839
<v Speaker 1>they're homesick, or their girlfriend goes somewhere else. Like, there

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>are a number of reasons why guys enter into a portal,

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>But do is it something that you are finding yourself

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 1>interested in and or good for the sport? Whether or

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>not you know it's going anywhere.

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, good good for the sport goes out the window, right, yeah,

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 2>good good for the sport. That's we could talk for

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>another hour and a half as to what's good for

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:32.359
<v Speaker 2>the sport and what isn't. Yeah, I yeah, I am

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 2>very fascinated by it. I am, I am completely fascinated

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:41.480
<v Speaker 2>by it because it is, in effect college football free agency. Sure,

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 2>it's free agency. Yeah. And whether or not you're of

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 2>the dabbo mindset that there are adult men who are

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 2>who are manipulating and tampering with the process and and

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 2>lying to student athletes, you know that you can certainly

0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:01.839
<v Speaker 2>have that mindset if you want to. But it's hard

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 2>for me to take a completely unbiased view of what

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the portal does for us, because all too often we

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 2>come to this point in the season or even into January,

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 2>or at some point in the low lows of the offseason,

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 2>and we don't have anything to talk about. And what

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I see happening is college football very much going the

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:25.840
<v Speaker 2>way of the NFL, where we find ways on the

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:30.359
<v Speaker 2>margins here to extend the talking points, whether it's through

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the portal, whether it's through nil, whether it's through conference realignment,

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 2>whether it's through coaching movement, whether it's through potential playoff expansion.

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 2>All of these things that exist on the periphery of

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the sport that have growing influence. There's media rights, there

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 2>are all these things that kind of add depth to

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the discussion year round that this is very clearly turning

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:57.960
<v Speaker 2>into a year round sport, much the way the NFL

0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:00.640
<v Speaker 2>has gone over the last decade plus. And so at

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 2>least from that standpoint is somebody who considers himself a

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 2>super fan, I'm no expert, but I am okay with

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.319
<v Speaker 2>it because it gives us more to talk about in

0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the college football side. It also changes dynamics a fair amount.

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 2>It does upset the balance of the sport, at least

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 2>as we've come to known it over the last you know,

0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:24.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty years. Guys can up and leave if they're unhappy

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:27.880
<v Speaker 2>with a coach, leaving, a playing situation, a new scheme,

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:30.840
<v Speaker 2>what have you just isn't working out. Maybe they're homesick,

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:34.240
<v Speaker 2>as you said before. So that ability for a player

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 2>to take control of his future, his destiny in college football,

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 2>that is a new dynamic. And I love new dynamics

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:47.680
<v Speaker 2>because I think it forces the Alabamas and the Clemsons

0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 2>and the power brokers in the sport to rejigger their mindset.

0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:54.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm okay with it. I think it makes things interesting.

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I am fascinated by the portal this year more than

0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:01.120
<v Speaker 2>ever because we've seen so much high profile movement. Is

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:02.840
<v Speaker 2>it good for the sport long term? I don't know

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 2>long term. We can talk about that in May, but

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.840
<v Speaker 2>for now, yeah, it's fascinating. It's fascinating to see so

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 2>many big names of the moves. That's a rattler to

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina. Come on, how is that not an interesting story?

0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting story. There are a certain amount of

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 1>quarterback or whatever position movement, if that they're filling in

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.959
<v Speaker 1>a gap, or if they're giving a team that isn't

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 1>traditionally able to recruit and sign top level players, right

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that it spreads the talent around, which is probably a

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 1>good thing for the sport. But justin Fields to Ohio State,

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Jamison Williams and Henry to Toe to Alabama right like

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>they're also like, we didn't know it at the time,

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 1>but Joe Burrow to LSU, it was amazing. It was

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 1>amazing for Joe Burrows, amazing for LSU was a maging

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>for a college football viewer like myself and yourself and

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:52.280
<v Speaker 1>everybody listening to the show. It's great. But I am

0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of the mindset like two things can be true at once,

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like fairs fair coaches can move freely, players to be

0:57:57.240 --> 0:57:59.680
<v Speaker 1>able to move freely. I totally get that. I think

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 1>we're we have entered into a phase where if you

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 1>are anything but fully supportive of every single right a

0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:07.960
<v Speaker 1>player could or should have, then you're looked at as

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 1>being like you're for the institutions whatever. I think it's

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of a bummer. I think all of this player

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>movement is great for the players, and it's kind of

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 1>a bummer for fans because college football is already an

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>impossible sport to follow, right, like between recruiting, between weird

0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 1>bowl games, between how the playoff gets decided, Like it

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 1>would be kind of impossible if somebody if we just

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.520
<v Speaker 1>met somebody, if we were at a restaurant and we

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 1>met somebody from Osaka, and they're like, oh, college football,

0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:39.920
<v Speaker 1>what's that all about? Like it would be impossible to

0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>explain to them the details. Now, certain things are true

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 1>in other sports where it'd be like, how do you

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 1>explain a cap hit or dead money to somebody who

0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 1>wants to be an NFL fan? Or like you can

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 1>buy a player in soccer, but you got to return him.

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Like there are things in every sport where it's just like, yeah,

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:59.439
<v Speaker 1>it's a soliverble but he hasn't signed, Like OK, what right?

0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:03.640
<v Speaker 1>It makes college football more difficult to follow because these

0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>guys are only going to be the top guys are

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 1>there for three years, maybe four years, and so when

0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you have players moving around, like it's just it's harder

0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>to keep track of names. And I know that was

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<v Speaker 1>the complaint with the one and done stuff with college basketball,

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:21.000
<v Speaker 1>but for the health of the sport. It's good to

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 1>root for the same players on the same teams for

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<v Speaker 1>multiple years. And so it is a bummer that Jamier

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Gibbs couldn't make it work in Georgia Tech and be

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>like that flashy, amazing running back that led Georgia Tech

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to Bowl eligibility and eight nine wins whatever. And I

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:36.960
<v Speaker 1>get why he's leaving because he should play on the

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 1>biggest stage possible given his talents and ceiling. But yeah,

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it's still a little bit sad to me. It's still

0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit sad to me that like the whole

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:50.439
<v Speaker 1>sport gets thrown into a you know, the Christmas globe whatever,

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the snow globe every December, between the coaches, between the players,

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and just like it's very difficult unless you do this

0:59:57.080 --> 0:59:59.600
<v Speaker 1>for a living or you are on like the college

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.800
<v Speaker 1>football subreddit all day every day to keep track of

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<v Speaker 1>the sport. It just it makes it a more difficult experience.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes it harder. And it's a really great with

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of turnover and new names coming into the

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<v Speaker 2>sport every year. I think, you know, just broadly speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the real downside to all this movement is

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<v Speaker 2>that at the end of the day, you've got eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty two year old kids making these big decisions

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<v Speaker 2>about where they want to go and play totally, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can use NFL free agency as a guide.

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<v Speaker 2>Not all those guys work out. At least they get paid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But even in that case where you've got agents and

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<v Speaker 2>people working on your behalf, there's no guarantees that it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to work out right. And you may want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a skeptic and say that kids are chasing andiel money.

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<v Speaker 2>In some cases, that may be what's going on. In

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<v Speaker 2>most cases, that won't be the case. In most cases,

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<v Speaker 2>they're looking for playing time. And when you chase playing time,

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes things happen, You get hurt, other guys step up,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always a better recruit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just always a gamble. It's always going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a gam It feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like the transfer portal. If we're gonna draw

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<v Speaker 2>the comparison between the rough comparison between the NFL and

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<v Speaker 2>free agency and what we've got going on now in

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<v Speaker 2>college football, it just seems to me like transferring to

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<v Speaker 2>a faraway place, or maybe you've got some familiarity, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's no safety net whatsoever. There's just a huge risk there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's much greater risk to you as a nineteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old or twenty year old quarterback from Ohio State than

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a pro. You're at least getting compensated to

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<v Speaker 2>go elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I'm totally with you, and it's a gamble

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully you know, fingers crossed. Every one of these

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<v Speaker 1>kids entering the portal is getting sound advice and using

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<v Speaker 1>as many people in their lives as a sounding board

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<v Speaker 1>as humanly possible, right, because you're gonna get good advice,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get bad advice. And for their sake, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope they're is a lot of was it radical transparency,

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<v Speaker 1>radical honesty? Right that they're like, look, you're a good player,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard for me to see you as a starting

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<v Speaker 1>SEC quarterback. Perhaps don't waste your time with that. There

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<v Speaker 1>are certain things that people need to hear. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course a guy is going to bet on himself,

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<v Speaker 1>right they told me I couldn't do it, and look

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<v Speaker 1>where I am. Now, sure that's cool too, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least hear those voices. At least get those voices. And

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<v Speaker 1>if everybody's telling you the same thing, like Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start going to James Madison and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>thrive there. I'm gonna go to Jacksonville State, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go wherever. I'm gonna go to Northern Illinois. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>all it's life, man, Life is risk, life is a gamble,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I guess you hope that they put them

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<v Speaker 1>all these players put themselves in the best possible position

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<v Speaker 1>to get fortunate. But otherwise, I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a lot of disappointed people as this

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<v Speaker 1>moves forward. All these guys that we discussed today.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't hit, Yeah, they won't hit.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, they won't hit.

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<v Speaker 2>For every Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, any number of guys who are going to

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<v Speaker 2>the portal and it just doesn't it doesn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't take immediately. So it will be interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>see there are there are some big names that are

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<v Speaker 2>still out there. We'll do our best to cover it here.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is growing. It is growing, yeah, and every

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<v Speaker 2>year I think it'll be a little bit more active.

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<v Speaker 2>So right in we are at soliverbotgmail dot com. Let

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<v Speaker 2>know your thoughts, how you feel about the transfer portal,

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel about some of these specific moves. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be posting clips of this show out to social media.

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to drop. I guess Santa themed on Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>correct with it being Christmas, So get excited for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week, we're gonna do our New Year's six and

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<v Speaker 2>playoff previews. We'll dive into a little bit more detail

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<v Speaker 2>about our feelings about those games. So those eight games

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<v Speaker 2>or seven get whatever it amounts to, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about those in much much more detail on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Get you ready for the Bowl season ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Ty, I added a sound to my soundboard without listening

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Okay, play, I've never done that before. Mid show, play,

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<v Speaker 1>I've added a sound to it. Let's see if it

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<v Speaker 1>comes through. Let's see if you recognize what it is. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>has it started yet? I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, nope, I don't hear it either. Oh oh, here

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Do you hear it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Make it louder.

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<v Speaker 3>What is this?

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<v Speaker 2>This is a real eight bit down on your luck?

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<v Speaker 2>Here is what is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Looks like?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, we made it through the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, see I would have edited it to start right

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<v Speaker 1>around here, right so it was immediately Yeah, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>really did the build up there.

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<v Speaker 2>That was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, still the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Send me that We're gonna find more ways to use

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<v Speaker 2>it in the off season.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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<v Speaker 2>form myself, Tie hilden Brand, we made it through this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on Friday, ho ho ho in our

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<v Speaker 2>way through college football bowl season talking about more college

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<v Speaker 2>football topics. For that guy over there, Dan, for myself, Tie,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to y'all sooner meantimes, Stay solid, Peace,