Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal For me, I'm a man,
Speaker 1: I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well I
Speaker 1: want to be happy. You want to be happy for
Speaker 1: a day? Edith state is that? Woo woof? And Dan
Speaker 1: and Tie.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Salid Rebel Boys and Girls. My
Speaker 2: name is Tai Hill, the brand, that fine gentleman over there,
Speaker 2: the one, the only still after all this time, the
Speaker 2: incomparable Dan Rubinstein, Sir, sir.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sir, how are you? I'm good? I was hoping
Speaker 1: you were ready with the Leanne Rhymes drop of still
Speaker 1: the one or I don't know if you're a was
Speaker 1: it Leanne Rhymes? Or who is the other one?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: Shania Twain?
Speaker 2: Still the one? Okay?
Speaker 1: So who did the competing? There was from con Air?
Speaker 1: What was the the song at the end of How
Speaker 1: Do I Live? That was how Do I Live? That
Speaker 1: was Leanne Rhymes? So there were two versions though, oh
Speaker 1: it was There was a Faith Hill version and a
Speaker 1: Leanne Rhymes version. I believe I.
Speaker 2: Believe Leeann Rimes had it first, right did she? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll look this.
Speaker 1: Up starting the show of fire here Okay, still the one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Shania Twain? That makes sense. So yeah, I'm I'm happy
Speaker 1: we didn't spend all of our money licensing that song
Speaker 1: for you to drop at the beginning of this episode.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad I'm still the one in your eyes,
Speaker 1: because as we get into today's episode, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of players out there looking at their current schools,
Speaker 1: are now past schools, and saying, you know, maybe you're
Speaker 1: not still the one now, maybe you're not the one
Speaker 1: for me. So I think we accidentally stumbled on quite
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Speaker 2: All sorts of stuff going on here in theverbawlerhood, Daniel.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep track of it all, and I'm
Speaker 1: excited for each and every one of those items that
Speaker 1: you mentioned, as as I'm thinking about my takes on
Speaker 1: these transfers.
Speaker 2: So here is the way that this show is going
Speaker 2: to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have talked at.
Speaker 2: Nauseum about the Bowl games. We did a huge Bowl preview.
Speaker 2: You can go back and listen Monday, and I guess
Speaker 2: Wednesday of last week, we went through in two batches
Speaker 2: all of the Bowl games they started playing. Of course,
Speaker 2: our Winter Wonders confidence pool is well under way. Was
Speaker 2: pleased to see that a number of folks took my
Speaker 2: advice and wagered a bunch of their points early. Because
Speaker 2: of the way that the game was set up, it
Speaker 2: gave you the option to put a boatload of points
Speaker 2: on Jackson State, and why wouldn't you put a boatload
Speaker 2: of points on day up?
Speaker 1: And it really sold me on that tie. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: guess what, guests who just got thirty one to.
Speaker 2: Ten, they lose to South Carolina State the Celebration Bowl,
Speaker 2: and yeah, that one left to mark. But otherwise, folks
Speaker 2: are having fun with the Winter Wonders game and we're
Speaker 2: talking about it over in the overball Er discord on Patreon.
Speaker 2: But we talked about that, and you talked about the
Speaker 2: recruiting game with a good friend Brandon Hoffman from twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven Sports. I did, and we talked obviously
Speaker 2: and nause about coaching news with our friend Bruce Fellman
Speaker 2: and others. Pete Sampson, Ryan Abraham on the Monday Show.
Speaker 1: What we haven't talked about.
Speaker 2: Is the transfer portal. That's also true, the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: So the transfer portal has been gaining steam, as you know,
Speaker 2: over the last couple of seasons, more guys are taking
Speaker 2: advantage of the transfer portal, and now because of a
Speaker 2: rule change, the one time transfer rule whereby you can
Speaker 2: just throw your name in there and if you find
Speaker 2: a new home, you can go and you can play
Speaker 2: immediately Noah Sands or Butts. Yeah, this thing has taken
Speaker 2: on a whole new life. It is gotten far, far, far,
Speaker 2: far far more significant as a postseason story, at least
Speaker 2: in our world here in college football, because so many
Speaker 2: guys are going to use it now to try and
Speaker 2: find new opportunities. So it has been very active, not
Speaker 2: just on the coaching front, but also on the I
Speaker 2: guess secondary market, the black market when it comes to
Speaker 2: all things recruiting. So many big names in the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna play a little game here today, aren't
Speaker 2: we We are?
Speaker 1: I don't know if yeah, I guess we didn't name
Speaker 1: the game per se or do you have one in mind,
Speaker 1: I have some sounds. I know you have some sounds
Speaker 1: I do, so I guess we can just sort of
Speaker 1: determine whether or not based on the actual decision to transfer,
Speaker 1: which of course we are not privy to the personal
Speaker 1: reasons for these guys, and how we foresee it going
Speaker 1: for some already declared destinations for the guys who have
Speaker 1: entered and now left the portal for the new destination,
Speaker 1: and we'll just evaluate our thoughts on them whether or
Speaker 1: not it is a successful journey, or will be a
Speaker 1: successful journey, or will be fraught with unforeseen danger.
Speaker 2: Here is how we're going to frame this out. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you heard the transfer portal sound. I've had this one
Speaker 2: for years.
Speaker 1: Of course. That's from Super.
Speaker 2: Mario Brothers or Super Mario Brothers, as the cultured among
Speaker 2: us would say. There are three things that could happen
Speaker 2: when you try to jump down a flower pot or
Speaker 2: a warp pipe, if you want to get specific. In
Speaker 2: the old Mario games. The first is it can take
Speaker 2: you far ahead in the game. It can catapult you
Speaker 2: to a better space. It can also take you sort
Speaker 2: of sideways into a bonus or an underground world where
Speaker 2: you're really just trying to scoop up coins. Let's be honest,
Speaker 2: sure of course, and the final thing that can happen
Speaker 2: to you is you die. As we know, because parah
Speaker 2: of plants hide in those things. You don't always know.
Speaker 2: Unless you know, you don't really know if it's going
Speaker 2: to be a parana plan or if it's going to
Speaker 2: take you to like World number seven.
Speaker 1: To be clear, you're not going to die if you
Speaker 1: transfer to South Carolina. That we know, probably not right,
Speaker 1: Probably probably not? Yeah, probably not. Yeah. I mean, look
Speaker 1: this we are. We are in the midst of a
Speaker 1: lot of people not just deciding whether or not they
Speaker 1: want to enter the portal, but where they go, what
Speaker 1: factors are important to them. You know, if this is
Speaker 1: a long term, if you have two three years of
Speaker 1: eligibility left, is it the right move?
Speaker 2: Was that the sound when you were underwater and potentially
Speaker 2: drowning from Mario three?
Speaker 1: No, I think you're making a decision that like some
Speaker 1: toad layer about oh you have to pick like the
Speaker 1: or the toad suit. Yeah, no, Ty, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, though, because this the transfer window,
Speaker 1: guys are leaving in the middle of the season saying
Speaker 1: they're entering the portal when things aren't going their way
Speaker 1: and they're a limited number of spots. Sometimes you can't
Speaker 1: hurried up, you know, you just quarterback transfers here, quarterback
Speaker 1: transfers there. I love the competing soundboard thing is either
Speaker 1: the best or worst thing ever to happen to this show.
Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right, Tie, you end up going down
Speaker 1: the wrong tube, the wrong portal. Yeah, there it is,
Speaker 1: could go wrong, but you go to the right place. Kyler, Murray, Baker, Mayfield,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and you're just hammering, Buddy, you're just hammering
Speaker 1: on the video. They don't just make it like they
Speaker 1: don't make game music like they used to. So no,
Speaker 1: let's let's go down the list of the highest profile
Speaker 1: or the most intriguing, unexpected whatever transfers across the sport,
Speaker 1: be it quarterback, be it defensive line, be it I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I listen to this guy. To me, he decided to transfer,
Speaker 1: he decided to take his talents elsewhere, and he's I
Speaker 1: am assuming, recruiting current Oregon players and commits because that's
Speaker 1: who he is. I'm not salty, Tie, I'm just not
Speaker 1: h Where we starting. We're starting with Spencer Ratler, were
Speaker 1: starting Dylan Gabriel. We got start a choice.
Speaker 2: We gotta start with quinn Ewers. Let's go quinn yours
Speaker 2: gotta start with quinn Ewers. So quinn Ewrs was a
Speaker 2: top recruit in the twenty twenty one class, reclassified so
Speaker 2: he can get to Ohio State. Early projected as a
Speaker 2: top ten pick out of high school. I think got
Speaker 2: a one point zero zero zero rating from twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven Sports, which is on the level of like
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. He's really good or at least coming out
Speaker 2: of high school, very very good. Totally we called this transfer,
Speaker 2: I feel like after week one of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we called a major transfer. Like the Ohio
Speaker 1: State quarterback room was just not going to be big
Speaker 1: enough to hold c. J. Stroud, quinn Ewrs, Jack Miller,
Speaker 1: Kyle McCort like all you like. Eventually this was gonna
Speaker 1: and Jack Miller also left. Eventually this room was going
Speaker 1: to thin out for sure.
Speaker 2: So yeah, quinn Ewers decides, Okay, I'm taking my talents elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Number one over over from south Lake, Texas, a northern
Speaker 2: suburb of Dallas. There's no surprise that when he threw
Speaker 2: his name in the portal. The Texas schools were the
Speaker 2: ones that I think immediately got a lot of steam.
Speaker 2: He ended up at ut YEP with Steve Sarkesian. There's
Speaker 2: no way this can't be positive. Okay, that being said,
Speaker 2: it is certainly not a slam dunk. It is not
Speaker 2: a slam dunk. Texas quarterbacks this year kind of got
Speaker 2: worse as the year went on, and it's probably not
Speaker 2: fair to lumpquin you. Weres into that, right, But I
Speaker 2: just don't think it's a slam dunk that him coming
Speaker 2: aboard is going to take this program to the next level.
Speaker 2: If he played defense, maybe we could talk. Defense was
Speaker 2: really what got stuck in Texas's crawl second half of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 1: But I like the move.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's anything other than positive. You
Speaker 2: have to be incredibly excited if you're a Texas fan
Speaker 2: to get the number one overall recruit from the twenty
Speaker 2: one class, somebody who are really high ceiling, someone who's
Speaker 2: from the state of Texas, Like that's all gravy. Sark's
Speaker 2: been good with quarterbacks. That there's a lot to like here,
Speaker 2: for sure. I just I feel like there are other
Speaker 2: transfers that we're going to talk about. That to me
Speaker 2: feel like more of a slam dunk is something that's
Speaker 2: just going to accelerate a program forward. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a total, incomplete slam dunk. I
Speaker 1: think it's great. I think to have that level of talent.
Speaker 1: To look at, first of all, what Texas was able
Speaker 1: to do with this specific recruiting class. I know there
Speaker 1: was like, oh is Quen you were part of the
Speaker 1: class of twenty twenty two. Obviously he had reclassified and
Speaker 1: you know he's part of the incoming players coming right now.
Speaker 1: What I'd like to see from Texas is what does
Speaker 1: the receiver room look like moving forward? They brought in
Speaker 1: good offensive line talent in this class, another area where
Speaker 1: they need to improve. But given Sarks a recent success
Speaker 1: at quarterback, and you mentioned look, Hudson Card was named
Speaker 1: the starter, did not work out, replaced by Casey Thompson,
Speaker 1: who showed a lot of promise early on, bombed downfield
Speaker 1: really well. Xavier Worthy was a freshman who popped. The
Speaker 1: receiving room is still somewhat thin to me. They have
Speaker 1: a game changing running back and Casey Thompson entered the
Speaker 1: portal wasn't named the starter then was hurt him? I
Speaker 1: think he hurt his thumb, by the way, So that
Speaker 1: is at least a partial reason why quarterback play fell
Speaker 1: off at times. That's during the during the Texas season.
Speaker 1: So no, I mean you want to give your what
Speaker 1: do you Your phrase is what as many bites at
Speaker 1: the apple as possible? Yeah, Look, Texas has a quarterback
Speaker 1: with seemingly unlimited arm talent whatever that seems to mean,
Speaker 1: and is enthusiastic is coming back to his own state.
Speaker 1: I just it's a huge, like a humongous win. It's
Speaker 1: a huge. I don't see any downside at all to this,
Speaker 1: other than there is going to be more pressure on
Speaker 1: him than an ordinary Texas quarterback, of which there's already
Speaker 1: a ton of pressure to succeed there. And look, we've
Speaker 1: seen what mac Jones was able to do, We've seen
Speaker 1: what all sorts of guys you know, to a with Sark,
Speaker 1: and so I'm I'm entirely optimistic that this will be
Speaker 1: a success story. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again, I am not saying it's a bad thing to get.
Speaker 2: Then it's a huge win for Sark.
Speaker 1: Talk about a dub, but he's but he's not the
Speaker 1: missing piece. He's not the Texas and the playoffs.
Speaker 2: He's not the missing piece, and I hope for his
Speaker 2: sake people don't treat him as such. He can definitely
Speaker 2: take the offense to another dimension. Sure, I don't think
Speaker 2: there's any question about that if he lives up to
Speaker 2: the billing. But they got to figure out the defense.
Speaker 2: Defense was very much lacking and.
Speaker 1: Can and the incoming class has a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: pieces that could be rotation guys pretty early on.
Speaker 2: So I think we feel pretty good, right, we feel
Speaker 2: good ideas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see who else comes in in
Speaker 1: the portal. By the way, for Texas, that to me
Speaker 1: is going to be the fascinating thing. They lost a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys, but yeah, this is just going to
Speaker 1: be I think another active score. This is what happens
Speaker 1: with a new coach and a new coach who has
Speaker 1: seen what he has or doesn't have after a year.
Speaker 1: So yep, I'll win.
Speaker 2: Let's stay in the Great State of Texas, and let's
Speaker 2: talk about Max Johnson. Max Johnson transferring over to A
Speaker 2: and M from LSU. He just announced that a few
Speaker 2: days ago. It's unclear to me why this happened. I
Speaker 2: understand that his younger brother, Jake is a four star
Speaker 2: tight end in the twenty twenty two class, also committed
Speaker 2: to A and M. What like, was this a move
Speaker 2: to keep Jake on the on the roster? Like, Well,
Speaker 2: they lose that Calzada right to the portal before the
Speaker 2: season even ends, and we talked about them, what starting
Speaker 2: they lost one quarterback to the tight end room. Uh,
Speaker 2: and they could be starting a walk on in their
Speaker 2: bowl game. It just seems like there's not that many people.
Speaker 2: They've got a huge commit signee coming in, but you're
Speaker 2: not going to rely on a true freshman when that
Speaker 2: roster has been built to the point where it should
Speaker 2: be competing for the SEC. So he's experienced the upside
Speaker 2: of Max Johnson is winning SEC football. We know what
Speaker 2: the downside is and we know the upheaval and LSU
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys in a lot of these situations.
Speaker 2: And we'll definitely get into with bo Nix and Oregon
Speaker 2: is talking yourself into a better fit at a new destination, right,
Speaker 2: And that's and that's I think where I have right
Speaker 2: some questions about this. I understand your total A and
Speaker 2: M perspective, right, Yeah, Kalzada is walking out. You don't
Speaker 2: know yet really what you have with Haines King, Connor Wegman,
Speaker 2: your incoming, you know, quarterback of the future, perhaps compared
Speaker 2: to Dak Prescott by twenty four to seven. Like that's
Speaker 2: a good comp You feel good about that if you're
Speaker 2: an A and M fan and their class was Gangbusters.
Speaker 2: But if you're Jimbo Fisher, Yeah, I get it. You
Speaker 2: want to add a skilled hand, somebody who can go
Speaker 2: in there and at least give you what Calzada did. Sure,
Speaker 2: and can Max Johnson do. Yeah, he's definitely an upgrade
Speaker 2: over Zach Calzada. Oh h yeah, I think Yeah, I
Speaker 2: get it totally from Jimbo's perspective. What I don't get
Speaker 2: it is from Max's perspective. Is there because there are
Speaker 2: definitely programs out there where he could go and wouldn't
Speaker 2: have to compete to be a starter. So he's going
Speaker 2: to go to A and M where he's got two
Speaker 2: other guys at least that are also competing for that job,
Speaker 2: both of whom probably have more arm talent. Like why
Speaker 2: would he put himself in that situation?
Speaker 1: Because he wants to win on the highest level and
Speaker 1: believes he can beat out his competition Haines King coming
Speaker 1: off of an injury and a true freshman like, it's
Speaker 1: not that like Haines King was not bulletproof and the
Speaker 1: very small window we saw him in. And so if
Speaker 1: you're Max Johnson, you think to yourself, Okay, they've recruited
Speaker 1: on a crazy good level. I will be put into
Speaker 1: a position. And now you have to remember Dad is
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson goes way back FSU Jimbo Fisher. Right, there's
Speaker 1: that connection there. So there's a certain amount of trust
Speaker 1: if you're Max Johnson and saying this guy has a reputation,
Speaker 1: maybe not the most fair recently, but has a reputation
Speaker 1: for developing quarterbacks. Well, whereas the upheaval at LSU coming
Speaker 1: off of whatever, you know, Max Johnson getting two different
Speaker 1: coordinators in two years, a lame duck coach, like, we
Speaker 1: all need fresh starts sometimes. And so if you're Max Johnson,
Speaker 1: you say, Okay, I will be throwing two guys a
Speaker 1: receiving room that's growing and becoming more and more impressive,
Speaker 1: behind a growing offensive line that's young. That's interesting. Whereas
Speaker 1: if he goes somewhere he's guaranteed to start. There's probably
Speaker 1: a reason why that place has a guaranteed starting spot
Speaker 1: for him, and that's probably because they haven't able to
Speaker 1: find a quarterback. They haven't been able to find a
Speaker 1: quarterback who wants to play behind that line or throw
Speaker 1: to those receivers. And so I don't know, you got
Speaker 1: to take a chance on yourself sometimes. And if a
Speaker 1: major program like A and M says, yeah, we can
Speaker 1: plug you in and we think we can win ten
Speaker 1: plus games, I know, I understand being seduced by that.
Speaker 1: I get that.
Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I get it. I just I'm not
Speaker 2: a huge Max Johnson fan. I like him a lot
Speaker 2: more at the end of last season than I did
Speaker 2: through the courses this year, and it was a tumultuous year.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I have nothing against him personally, obviously, but it just
Speaker 2: seems like an odd fit to me. So for me,
Speaker 2: I think we're kind of saying the same thing though.
Speaker 2: This is definitely not the kind of move that is
Speaker 2: going to catapult A and M to playoff or sec
Speaker 2: you know, championships, But it's also not a step back, right.
Speaker 2: This is very much a sideways move that at worst
Speaker 2: case scenario is going to build depth in that quarterback room.
Speaker 2: We feel about same on that.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to start. I honestly, I mean,
Speaker 1: right now, with who he's competing against, I think he's
Speaker 1: likely the starter. I don't think it's just a depth play.
Speaker 1: I think he will not give. I don't think he
Speaker 1: was given assurances that he would start, but I think
Speaker 1: he was given assurances that it might be a pretty
Speaker 1: advantageous battle. I mean, you're right, and look, he's succeeded
Speaker 1: against some teams in the SEC. He has that experience.
Speaker 1: I get it. I totally get it. If you're Max Johnson,
Speaker 1: where you're like, I believe myself to be a high
Speaker 1: level SEC quarterback and this is a place that I
Speaker 1: can step into and have my talents maximized.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, do we agree that it's more sideways
Speaker 2: than a huge jump forward?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. Yeah. I think yeah, had to play,
Speaker 1: he would There are opportunities high G five, low power
Speaker 1: five where I think he could have stepped into and
Speaker 1: bitten an assured starter and succeed. But I think all
Speaker 1: of those places have lower ceilings in terms of his development.
Speaker 1: All right, dude, talk to me about bo Nix. To
Speaker 1: Oregon must we I both gave this immediate consideration when
Speaker 1: I saw that he entered the portal because of the
Speaker 1: connection to Kenny Dillingham, Oregon's new offensive coordinator, given their
Speaker 1: their ties together at Auburn a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: But it's sort of the same, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of Auburn criticism and a lot of Auburn
Speaker 1: fan opinion of Bonnicks was similar to Oregon opinion and
Speaker 1: fan criticism of Anthony Brown in that he would struggle
Speaker 1: to throw within the rhythm of the offense, just taking
Speaker 1: a snap play action, step into the pocket, throw it
Speaker 1: to the dude who should be open because the defense
Speaker 1: is in cover three or whatever. That he had to
Speaker 1: improvise and play hero ball a little bit too much,
Speaker 1: check down a little bit too early. I think there's
Speaker 1: a famous clip of Gus Malsh looking perplexed as to
Speaker 1: why bon Nicks immediately checked a ball down when he
Speaker 1: wasn't being pressured or like. There was just those clips
Speaker 1: out there, which I think I'm sure was very similar
Speaker 1: to if you had a camera trained on Joe moorehead
Speaker 1: at Oregon. So we know his upside is how we
Speaker 1: finished the twenty twenty one season before he got hurt.
Speaker 1: He played really well in three of those final four
Speaker 1: games against the Mississippi Schools in Arkansas, and didn't play
Speaker 1: well against A and M. I believe if he's the
Speaker 1: starter opens the year against Georgia next year and has
Speaker 1: not performed all that well against the Dogs. But if
Speaker 1: you are an Oregon fan, and if you are bon Nicks,
Speaker 1: if you're an Oregon fan, you're saying, look, he was
Speaker 1: playing in under an inordinate amount of pressure at Auburn,
Speaker 1: given his last name given, winning the starting job as
Speaker 1: a true freshman, because obviously Joey Gatewood was not of
Speaker 1: that quality and Malik Willis was not ready to be
Speaker 1: of that quality, and so he left before bon Nix's start.
Speaker 1: And then he beats Oregon. So there's like all this
Speaker 1: pressure right away, though like oh man, even though that
Speaker 1: game he had wasn't so good, he threw the game
Speaker 1: when he passed, there's all this pressure. And there's the
Speaker 1: picture of him at the twenty ten National Championship game.
Speaker 1: And so we've seen this story in a different version.
Speaker 1: We've seen the story, like, right, Kyler Murray comes in
Speaker 1: as the number one guy and has all these issues
Speaker 1: at Texas A and M. It's a bad fit. You know,
Speaker 1: he's in and out whatever I mean. Bon Nicks was
Speaker 1: benched against Georgia State this year and came back strong
Speaker 1: when he won the job back. I guess if you're
Speaker 1: talking yourself into it, it's change of change of coast,
Speaker 1: change of geography, change of coaches, change of pressure. Walking
Speaker 1: into a place that should have a better offensive line
Speaker 1: and better skill talent. Because the Auburn receiving room wasn't
Speaker 1: all that great this year. It's just sort of nobody
Speaker 1: emerged as a true number one guy. So the thinking
Speaker 1: is fresh start. You know, it's a new Bonnix. He
Speaker 1: showed signs this year of taking a step forward. And
Speaker 1: he's not throwing into the Georgia defense the Alabama defense. Well,
Speaker 1: he's throwing to the Georgia defense, but throwing into pack
Speaker 1: twelve defenses. So it's a more advantageous spot for a quarterback.
Speaker 1: My counter argument to that is we're three years into
Speaker 1: the Boennicks experience and he's sort of, for better or worse,
Speaker 1: is who he is. So I think it's probably going
Speaker 1: to end up being a sideways experience for Bonicks and Oregon,
Speaker 1: if you have the sound at the ready, what do
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure it's not a step back.
Speaker 1: Okay for whom?
Speaker 2: For Oregon?
Speaker 1: Okay, they have quarterbacks in the future, at least one
Speaker 1: that Oregon fans feel good about, TDD Thompson. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think can be good in a very specific system
Speaker 1: where you're not asking him to do too much. Okay,
Speaker 1: what do we know about what Kenny Dillingham's going to do?
Speaker 1: We have any kind of clue as to what that
Speaker 1: scheme is going to look like with him at the helm.
Speaker 1: All I've heard is Dan Lanning had a quote. New
Speaker 1: Oregon head coach Dan Lanning had a quote that said,
Speaker 1: just because I have a defensive background doesn't mean we
Speaker 1: won't be airing it out. See that's not what I mean.
Speaker 2: Going to Bone Knicks.
Speaker 1: Well, apparently Lane Kiffin wanted bon Nix allegedly, But Lane
Speaker 1: Kiffin has a much better quarterback background than I think
Speaker 1: anybody on the Oregon staff has at the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I mean I was high on bon Knicks
Speaker 2: when he was a true freshman, and I remember his
Speaker 2: first game, and his first game wasn't good, but then
Speaker 2: he pulled out some last second heroics, and yeah, such
Speaker 2: began the early legacy of bon Nicks, and it's been
Speaker 2: kind of love hate with him the rest of the way.
Speaker 2: He's had flashes and then he's had some pretty low
Speaker 2: lows out there. Yeah, this year in particular, this move
Speaker 2: kind of surprised me because bo Nix is a legacy.
Speaker 2: His father went to Auburn, and it seemed as if,
Speaker 2: at least to some extent, he had turned a corner.
Speaker 2: And we had talked a year about it being kind
Speaker 2: of like a different bo Knicks, a different bo Knicks,
Speaker 2: but not leaning on him as heavily, and it seemed
Speaker 2: like they got more out of him.
Speaker 1: So he definitely took some of those throws against Arkansas.
Speaker 1: It was really impressive.
Speaker 2: I agree, So I thought bo Nix hac quitted himself.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: It surprised me to hear that he was leaving, and
Speaker 2: it surprised me even more to hear that Oregon might
Speaker 2: want to bring him up there. So, you know, it
Speaker 2: reminds me a little bit of the circumstance we just
Speaker 2: talked about with Max Johnson. I don't think bow Knicks
Speaker 2: is going to transform this Oregon offense under Kenny Dillingham
Speaker 2: into something that it hasn't been. Oregon has been synonymous
Speaker 2: with really good offense, for better or worse, whether that's
Speaker 2: a good comparison or not, ever since Chip Kelly left,
Speaker 2: and so I don't think that bow Knicks is going
Speaker 2: to get them back to that level. I do think
Speaker 2: he can give them some quarterback depth. I do think
Speaker 2: he's better than Anthony Brown, which at the minimum is
Speaker 2: not a bad thing. I am curious though, as to
Speaker 2: how him coming to the Pacific Northwest is going to
Speaker 2: impact the quarterback rope, because, as he said, they they've
Speaker 2: got Ty Thompson, who everybody's really excited about. Right. Is
Speaker 2: he going to see this and be put off and
Speaker 2: decide that he wants to go into the portal like what.
Speaker 1: He apparently he apparently tweeted out ten toes down, which
Speaker 1: I had to look up what that means. Okay, it
Speaker 1: means you're all in right, your feet are in front
Speaker 1: of you all you know, you're you're sold on the ground,
Speaker 1: you're moving forward, uh not moving away, moving forward, and
Speaker 1: you're you're fully committed.
Speaker 2: I get that. I get that, but you just, especially
Speaker 2: in this era, you worry about any kind of knock
Speaker 2: on effect from this, of course, so it could be
Speaker 2: a situation like we're describing at A and M, where
Speaker 2: maybe bo Nix is the starter week one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he has two years of eligibility, right,
Speaker 1: We got two years eligibility out, so.
Speaker 2: I I'm very skittish about turning the reins of a
Speaker 2: brand new offense over to Boonix. I felt much better
Speaker 2: about Bonnicks coming back to Auburn after what we saw
Speaker 2: this year, but the fact that he's leaving, right, I
Speaker 2: would almost rather if I were an Oregon fan, have
Speaker 2: a fresh start with ty Thompson. Fresh start, new coordinator, Yeah,
Speaker 2: new quarterback, Let's move forward, let's accept some growing pains
Speaker 2: if you really believe in the kid. But bo Nick's
Speaker 2: transforming this thing, I for me kind of feels like
Speaker 2: a step back. I'm not into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I get it from the organ
Speaker 1: perspective of needing experience. There's no experience in that quarterback room. Zero.
Speaker 1: Like ty Thompson has played a couple of games in
Speaker 1: garbage time, presumably Kenny Dillingham has either heard or watched
Speaker 1: practice cut ups and said, we need more than this.
Speaker 1: We definitely need more than this, and so I think,
Speaker 1: at worst you're get what you've already seen, and at
Speaker 1: best you're getting an improved situation. So that's why I'm
Speaker 1: going sideways. You were pretty down on bon Nicks for
Speaker 1: the better. Sideways isn't fun. I don't think the bone
Speaker 1: like he was inaccurate. He was inconsistent at best downfield.
Speaker 1: Some of the simple throws he just couldn't make all
Speaker 1: the time, which was a bummer to watch. And you know,
Speaker 1: you're hopeful that now he's going to be a fourth
Speaker 1: year guy that you know there'll be incremental improvement. And
Speaker 1: I know I'm not high on the move at the moment,
Speaker 1: and I like to judge. You know, you listen to
Speaker 1: even rational Auburn fans because they do exist, and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: that's the Bonix experience, which is kind of how I
Speaker 1: felt about the Mario Cristo Baal and lack of finding
Speaker 1: a quarterback experience last year. So I'm not excited. I'm
Speaker 1: not excited, but I can see the architecture. I can
Speaker 1: see the framing of how it works out, at least
Speaker 1: in a positive way. I'm just not there.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Dylan Gee, Let's talk about another PAC
Speaker 2: twelve transfer, Dylan Gabriel transferring out from UCF going to UCLA.
Speaker 1: This is a big move.
Speaker 2: So Dylan Gabriel through for thirty six hundred yards his
Speaker 2: first year, almost thirty six hundred yards a second year
Speaker 2: as over sixty touchdown passes to just eleven interceptions, and
Speaker 2: two full seasons got hurt earlier in the year for UCF.
Speaker 2: Has decided that he's going to UCLA, which is a
Speaker 2: really interesting move for Chip Kelly. He's a smaller guy,
Speaker 2: he's five to eleven, he's one eighty six. He's definitely
Speaker 2: not a runner. So it's a different kind of quarterback
Speaker 2: than DTR, but undeniably better passer, undeniably better passer, much
Speaker 2: more consistent on that side of things. Again, for a situation,
Speaker 2: I think, for sure would be more helpful if he
Speaker 2: could play defense. But as quarterback play goes, I don't
Speaker 2: think there's any two ways about this being a clear
Speaker 2: and immediate upgrade over what they've had. And d TR
Speaker 2: was okay at his moments. He was inconsistent, but DTR,
Speaker 2: I think, all things considered, was it took a step
Speaker 2: forward this year.
Speaker 1: He was fine.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was okay, I really like this move.
Speaker 2: I just I'm I'm unclear as to how he fits
Speaker 2: into the offense and what the offense will look like.
Speaker 1: Right, But outside of that, to.
Speaker 2: Get a talent like a Dylan Gabriel, I think it's
Speaker 2: just like a huge dub for Chip Kelly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The question to me is because UCF had legit
Speaker 1: strong receivers these past couple of years, and this was
Speaker 1: an offense under Josh Hipel that was bombing it deep,
Speaker 1: UCLA doesn't have those guys. Now, maybe they don't. Dylan
Speaker 1: Gabriel made those guys, but probably not because they've you know,
Speaker 1: Kyle Phillips is fine, but I think Kyle Phillips is
Speaker 1: probably the third or fourth best receiver on a really
Speaker 1: strong team. And if he's your number one guy, it's
Speaker 1: Greg Dulcich the tight end. Impressive, But who's Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 1: throwing to. Are they bringing other receivers into the portal?
Speaker 1: Are their guys coming in as true freshman this year
Speaker 1: that they feel like are going to immediately step in
Speaker 1: and be part of a lethal offense. I kind of
Speaker 1: get it from Dylan Gabriel's perspective in that you're from Hawaii,
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly's guy. With Marcus Mariota, you're a lot closer
Speaker 1: to home. You can step into the starting role a
Speaker 1: lot more easily. I get it from his perspective of
Speaker 1: just like fresh start. You know, Gus Malzan doesn't recruit him.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not a fit, whatever, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's it's the Green and Yellow in me saying
Speaker 1: like why wouln't you just go to Oregon? Then why
Speaker 1: weren't you Just it's a new coach and obviously you know,
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly has the cachet as an offensive mine much
Speaker 1: more so than whatever Kenny Dillingham. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if that was even official, But like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: if you want to go to the West Coast, I
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, I mean, ASU wasn't making a change,
Speaker 1: but USC, I don't know, it seems like there were
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they're high on Jackson Dart, but
Speaker 1: I don't know the UCLA offensive situation. They ran the
Speaker 1: ball pretty well at times, and so maybe that opens
Speaker 1: things up, but even still, like who are you thrown to?
Speaker 1: Who's protecting you? And maybe it improves I know their
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator is a big offensive line guy and a
Speaker 1: well respected dude in that world. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think UCLA has a severe lack of winter wonders that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to become a shorter field than
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel's used to. Yeah, that will be interesting, And
Speaker 1: I think that's my question as well, because without the
Speaker 1: receiving talent, there is an open question as to how
Speaker 1: much they can utilize that arm talent from Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2: I still like the move. I still think it's a
Speaker 2: great move. And if you've been following the portal as
Speaker 2: we have, there was a lot of smoke that Spencer
Speaker 2: Ratler was going to end up at Easter, which we'll
Speaker 2: talk about Spencer Ratler going to South Carolina momentarily here,
Speaker 2: But so you know to what degree those two players
Speaker 2: had influence over where one went or didn't go. That
Speaker 2: remains to be seen. But Dylan Gabriel to Ucla, in
Speaker 2: my some questions, might not take them all the way
Speaker 2: to World eight, but can it take them like two
Speaker 2: or three worlds in the future. Can it give them
Speaker 2: something of a lift on offense. I think it's one
Speaker 2: less thing you have to worry about because it's definitely
Speaker 2: an upgrade in the consistency department at quarterback, totally absent
Speaker 2: of what the offense actually looks like. I think it's
Speaker 2: just a better player. There is an injury concern there,
Speaker 2: and he is a bit of a smaller dude, so
Speaker 2: I think you worry about that a little bit. It's
Speaker 2: not something that I'm going to go hook line and
Speaker 2: sinker for, but I think it's definitely a positive direction
Speaker 2: here for UCLA.
Speaker 1: Good move, Jake Bobo transferring in from Duke wide receiver CLA. Okay,
Speaker 1: well that does it then, son of Mike, I think
Speaker 1: the same Mike Bobo.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see. You would really love for UCLA
Speaker 1: to to find more receiving talent in the portal uh,
Speaker 1: to maximize what del and Gabriel can be because.
Speaker 2: Are you saying sideways? Are you saying step forward for whom?
Speaker 2: For UCLA?
Speaker 1: Step forward? For sure? I think Dylan Gabriel is definitely
Speaker 1: a step forward from dtr.
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Spencer Rattler. Yes, first question, is
Speaker 2: he an upgrade over Zebede Yadaya Nol?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, this is an upgrade over anybody in Colombia.
Speaker 1: I agree This was quite a surprising move mm hmm.
Speaker 1: When Spencer Rattler announced he's going to South Carolina along
Speaker 1: with Austin Stoner, I believes how you say the name,
Speaker 1: okay tight end from Oklahoma, both those guys coming over.
Speaker 2: South Carolina's offense was atrocious last year, just atrocious. A
Speaker 2: lot of that stem from a bad offensive line, but
Speaker 2: the cupboard was bare. They just did not have the
Speaker 2: skill talent that could help this offense take a step forward.
Speaker 2: Shane Beemer still managed to get him to Bowl, which
Speaker 2: was a hell of a job. So I think if
Speaker 2: you look at the roster, clearly Spencer Rattler is the
Speaker 2: best player on the offense. He's best player on the
Speaker 2: offense immediately he steps in, and he's got a skill
Speaker 2: set that nobody else possesses in Columbia. So that in
Speaker 2: and of itself is incredible. He's going to be a
Speaker 2: huge upgrade over quarterback. It may not catapult them to
Speaker 2: nine and three, they're in the SEC East, but it
Speaker 2: definitely brings some much needed stability to that quarterback position. So,
Speaker 2: if ever there were a move in this cycle of transfers,
Speaker 2: my assumption is that Spencer Ratler going to South Carolina
Speaker 2: with how bad their offense was. That's like a quantum
Speaker 2: leap forward. I mean, you're not jumping from World one
Speaker 2: to World six, you're jumping from Mario one to Mario three.
Speaker 2: That's a huge step forward for shine Bee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's huge. It's a huge upgrade. I hesitate to
Speaker 1: think it's an amazing move for Spencer Rattler given the
Speaker 1: offensive line struggles and the pressure that those quarterbacks were
Speaker 1: under last year. You know, I think it was, but
Speaker 1: Josh Van emerged as the number one receiver for South Carolina.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it just seems like a worst
Speaker 1: version of the issues he added Oklahoma behind that offensive
Speaker 1: line and lack of a clear number one playmaker out wide.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe it's there's a personality conflict
Speaker 1: between Spencer Rattler and the top of the sport, but
Speaker 1: it does feel like a pretty significant downgrade in terms
Speaker 1: of situation. It's definitely a downgrade. Yeah, it's definitely a downgrade.
Speaker 1: But I get see I understand this move more for
Speaker 1: him than I understand the Max Johnson move. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I just feel like, if you're Max Johnson, you're stepping
Speaker 1: into a hornet's nest where you're constantly gonna have to
Speaker 1: shake guys off week in and week out.
Speaker 2: You may not even be the opening day starter.
Speaker 1: Probably will Who is the big threat? Is it Haines King?
Speaker 2: It could be Haines King, It could be there they're
Speaker 2: incoming freshmen. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean every top freshman is going to be
Speaker 1: the object of every fans design Hey, every four or
Speaker 1: five star quarterback.
Speaker 2: But okay, so case in point, Yeah, maybe he starts
Speaker 2: day one for A and M. Yeah, but what about
Speaker 2: week four? There's going to be a constant threat because
Speaker 2: those guys don't want to sit behind Max Johnson. And
Speaker 2: they're really talented, at least we think so. I understand
Speaker 2: why A and M would want to do it. But
Speaker 2: if you're Max Johnson, why do you put yourself in
Speaker 2: that situation where if you truly want to go and
Speaker 2: play and develop, if you want to play it though,
Speaker 2: there's always where do you go? I mean, he could
Speaker 2: have gone to South Carolina, he could have gone somewhere.
Speaker 1: Would you rather if you are good, if you're a
Speaker 1: B B plus quarterback or whatever the best of Max
Speaker 1: Johnson is, would you rather go to South Carolina or
Speaker 1: roll the dice with A and M, like you would
Speaker 1: get drilled at South Carolina as a quarterback, and a
Speaker 1: lot of them did this here.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand why, if you're transferring, you wouldn't
Speaker 2: go to a place where you know you're going to
Speaker 2: play and you're not have that much competition.
Speaker 1: From what I've heard, Spencer Rattler to ASU seemed like
Speaker 1: that was going to be the clear path, given where
Speaker 1: he's from. And then Jayden Daniels said no, I'm coming back,
Speaker 1: and AAC was like, what now, what's going on? You're what?
Speaker 1: And so I think that was probably what was going
Speaker 1: to happen. I think he had inquired with some Pack
Speaker 1: twelve schools that looked to be trying to upgrade at quarterback,
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, it wasn't Oregon, it wasn't sc
Speaker 1: it wasn't UCLA. There was strong UCLA buzz with Spencer Ratler,
Speaker 1: and they decided that they were going Dylan Gabriel or
Speaker 1: that just came through a little bit quicker than anticipated.
Speaker 1: Whatever had heard some things about Oregon that you know,
Speaker 1: there was conversations there, but maybe that got scuttled for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. So I don't know. South Carolina might have
Speaker 1: been like his eleventh choice, who knows.
Speaker 2: But at least he's gonna play. This is a guy,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, was a preseason Heisman favorite. It didn't work out.
Speaker 2: We know that story by now. But at least he's
Speaker 2: gonna play. They're gonna make him the centerpiece of that offense.
Speaker 2: And they may not win ten games, they may not
Speaker 2: win eight games next year. And the line was bad,
Speaker 2: really bad this season. So he's gonna have his work
Speaker 2: cut out for him. For sure. He will be running
Speaker 2: for his life. Maybe not as bad as like zeb Nolan,
Speaker 2: but nonetheless he's gonna have his work cut out for him.
Speaker 2: I just you know he's gonna play. He's gonna get
Speaker 2: the reps unless he gets hurt. There's not really gonna
Speaker 2: be a clear competitor, and so it just seems like
Speaker 2: a path of least resistance if in fact your main
Speaker 2: goal is to make sure you get playing time.
Speaker 1: Who's a quarterback away though? Right? Who? Who could have
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler? This is bad English? But who is Who's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy makes sense. We don't have a killer at quarterback.
Speaker 1: We know Spencer Ratler. Ceiling is excellence, just a crazy
Speaker 1: good arm and has been able to lead you know,
Speaker 1: one of the Big Twelve his first year as a
Speaker 1: starter as a red shirt freshman. Like who is that team?
Speaker 1: Or just like, okay, this is the plug and play
Speaker 1: Florida State. I don't think they're just a quarterback away. No,
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Like you look, I don't know who it
Speaker 1: is that. There are a lot of interesting quarterback openings.
Speaker 1: North Carolina has a quarterback of the future post Sam Howell.
Speaker 1: Like is Baylor a quarterback away to stay in the conference?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I mean the best of Gary
Speaker 1: Bohannon's interesting. I won the conference without amazing quarterback play.
Speaker 1: Good quarterback play. Kansas State. That's Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 2: Adrian Martinez.
Speaker 1: Now did he go to Kansas State? I mean we
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, oh okay, yeah, there are schools that
Speaker 1: could improve at quarterback. But you're like, why would you
Speaker 1: want to be the Iowa quarterback? Right, Like that's that's
Speaker 1: no fun. So I don't I don't know who that
Speaker 1: school is. That's what That's sort of the broader point
Speaker 1: that like they're loaded at receiver, They've got good running backs,
Speaker 1: a good offensive line, the defense holds its own. They
Speaker 1: just need a quarterback. I guess you could make the
Speaker 1: case for Oregon with how they've recruited the past couple
Speaker 1: of year, but it's a big old question mark with
Speaker 1: a new staff. So yeah, I mean there there are
Speaker 1: like we can talk LSU Notre Dame, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're you know, the reports of Spencer Rattler
Speaker 1: being a little prickly. I don't know if there's personality
Speaker 1: fits everywhere. Yeah, this is a huge deal for South Carolina. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's huge. It's huge.
Speaker 2: It may not work, but it's a huge deal for
Speaker 2: South Carolina for the offense and certainly for Shane Beemer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what a job he did in year one. Rattler also
Speaker 2: stuff like all these guys and he gets in his
Speaker 2: experience in Oklahoma helps.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I love to move for him. I don't
Speaker 2: fully understand it from the Spencer Rattler perspective, but he's
Speaker 2: going to get playing time, which I think is most
Speaker 2: important because he wants to go to the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, where do you want to go next? What
Speaker 2: other transfers drew your ire man? You know, I feel
Speaker 2: great about Jamir and his overall talent. I can do
Speaker 2: this in the rank of twenty four to seven. Ranked
Speaker 2: it in terms of transfer rating, not high school rating,
Speaker 2: whether or not they've gone up or down, or a
Speaker 2: state around the same level. So the top looks like
Speaker 2: what Quinn yours. Eli Rix moves on from LSU Tobama,
Speaker 2: which is just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: B Yu gets a top offensive tackle commit in Kingsley Swamattaya.
Speaker 1: I think that's how you pronounce Oregon didn't play any
Speaker 1: meaningful football. I don't believe for Oregon is from the
Speaker 1: state of Utah. Jamiir Gibbs is also rumored for Alabama.
Speaker 1: Zach Evans was an all everything running back who committed
Speaker 1: to like seven different schools coming out of high school.
Speaker 1: He entered the portal from TCU, but they seem to
Speaker 1: be like they're in okay shape at running back. Cameron
Speaker 1: Ward is the next one. I couldn't tell you that
Speaker 1: much about him, but he was add incarnate word and
Speaker 1: was a I think a Walter Payton Award winning quarterback.
Speaker 1: So could be an intriguing, you know, Vernon Adams type
Speaker 1: story for somebody. Jaden Hazelwood already made the move from
Speaker 1: Oklahoma to Arkansas, which, given Traylon Burks leaving early, could
Speaker 1: step right in and become a force for the Hogs.
Speaker 1: Otherwise I don't know. Like in terms of huge names
Speaker 1: like Keaton Slovis, there was a report about Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Is Notre Dame a school with a new coach with
Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Buckner being promising, but certainly didn't come
Speaker 1: in and be like, yep, he is the guy for
Speaker 1: the next four years. Like, would you be anti Notre
Speaker 1: Dame bringing in a higher profile type quarterback into that room?
Speaker 2: I guess not. I I'm not a huge Keaton Slovis fan, Okay,
Speaker 2: but is he better than Buckner? Maybe at the stage yet,
Speaker 2: I mean they have different skill sets. Buckner is more
Speaker 2: of a dual threat guy slo He's going to hang
Speaker 2: in the pocket and he's been good in yeah, relatively
Speaker 2: good in an air raid style system, so you know
Speaker 2: he can throw. I just don't know what the full, unadulterated,
Speaker 2: unencumbered Tommy Reese's experience is going to look like. I
Speaker 2: don't know what unencumbered by Brian Kelly's influence that is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what that's going to look like,
Speaker 2: so I A think I try and air it out more.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, we had an open question
Speaker 2: all year long as to who are Jack Cone slash
Speaker 2: Buckner's targets out wide, and it took them at least
Speaker 2: three quarters of the way through the season to start
Speaker 2: figuring out who those were outside of Michael Maher and
Speaker 2: I still don't you know, Kevin Austin came into his
Speaker 2: own down the stretch. I still don't know if we've
Speaker 2: got any great depth at that receiver position going into
Speaker 2: twenty two. Right, So there is an open question, like
Speaker 2: we've asked with some of these other guys, who would
Speaker 2: slowest be throwing to I. You know, I could throw
Speaker 2: names out, but until one of them sticks out there
Speaker 2: on the field, it's really just speculation.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm okay with it. I guess so I
Speaker 1: think he's I think he's pretty good. I think And
Speaker 1: this is something Ryan Abraham touched on on our USC
Speaker 1: deep Dive, was we do sort of talk about like
Speaker 1: what happened to the offense like and he mentioned like
Speaker 1: Drake London, for as amazing as he was, led the
Speaker 1: nation in contested catches, because this offense became very easily
Speaker 1: defensed people figured out Graham Harrell like drop into his
Speaker 1: own do as much as you can to confuse Keten Slovas,
Speaker 1: and he's either gonna check down or he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to throw into contested spaces. And so if Tommy Reese
Speaker 1: is a better offensive mind with obviously more continuity and
Speaker 1: doesn't have a fired head coach two games into the
Speaker 1: year or whatever, which he won't, then Keiden Slovas might
Speaker 1: be in a better position to succeed. Like is Keeton
Speaker 1: Slovas that is he that much worse than Jack Cone?
Speaker 1: Like I think Jack Cone's pretty good. I think Keyton
Speaker 1: Slovas is pretty good. And so you run the risk
Speaker 1: of driving somebody away like Tyler Buckner. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think Keten Slovas is a pretty good Bilow candidate
Speaker 1: to be honest, like his his ceiling. And maybe it's
Speaker 1: not a fit with Notre Dame, maybe it's a fit
Speaker 1: some or else, but I think that USC offense got
Speaker 1: pretty stale pretty quickly, and especially given the changes, the
Speaker 1: constant change in La No, I think Slovas could be
Speaker 1: like an interesting answer for somebody, not necessarily a quarterback away,
Speaker 1: but somebody pretty large with like a Virginia Tech or
Speaker 1: something like that. Now that you know Braxton Burmeister, who
Speaker 1: I was never all that high on, now that that
Speaker 1: seems to be a pretty open room, Like there are
Speaker 1: interesting places that Keton Slovas would give them like a
Speaker 1: definitive upgrade or as a bridge between, you know, a
Speaker 1: previous era to the next big thing. So I'm okay
Speaker 1: with Keithan. Maybe it's Arizona. I don't know he's from Arizona,
Speaker 1: but uh no, I think I think you can do
Speaker 1: a lot worse than Keten Slovas.
Speaker 2: You can definitely do worse in Keaton Slovis. Don't listen
Speaker 2: to me. I'm biased. I've always wanted to sell I've
Speaker 2: always wanted to see more of Tyler Buckner. Yeah, I've
Speaker 2: always wanted to see more of Buckner. And perhaps I've
Speaker 2: fallen victim to what we described earlier, the freshman quarterback
Speaker 2: always being the most popular guy in the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But here's here's the thing too, And you're right, the
Speaker 1: coaches are at practice. The coaches have that tape, and
Speaker 1: Tyler Buckner was given reps, like meaningful reps this year,
Speaker 1: and the coaches felt like he's not the guy like
Speaker 1: Jack Cone, didn't establish himself really until the latter part
Speaker 1: of the season, right Brian Kelly was shuffling, you know,
Speaker 1: series is whatever Drew Pine was getting time. Tyler Buckner
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to be the guy this year, and
Speaker 1: it's okay that he wasn't. He was a freshman, but
Speaker 1: they know what they have in him, for better or worse,
Speaker 1: and they started kicking the tires on Keaton Slovas pretty
Speaker 1: early on after Slovas announced his intentions to enter the portal.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would imagine Tommy Reese knows what he has.
Speaker 2: I would assume, So yeah, I would assume. So it'll
Speaker 2: be interesting to see. I mean, Notre Dame would be.
Speaker 2: I'm sure interested in a guy like a Slovas, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure there will be other programs well, because he
Speaker 2: is definitely a guy who came in I think as
Speaker 2: a three star and has improved his stock. He's gotten
Speaker 2: better now. This past season wasn't necessarily his finest work,
Speaker 2: but there were circumstances there and I still do think
Speaker 2: he's pretty talented. There was a moment in time where
Speaker 2: people were talking up Keaton Slovas as a top ten
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. Sure, I don't think I'm quite as high
Speaker 2: on him as that, but the talent is there. The
Speaker 2: talent is evident, and yeah, you're bringing a guy like that,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a bad move. So I'm talking
Speaker 2: myself into it, even though I still want to see
Speaker 2: more out of Tyler Buckner. Some others really that we
Speaker 2: could mention. I talked about Adrian Martinez. He just announced,
Speaker 2: I think over the weekend or before this past weekend,
Speaker 2: that he's going to go to Kansas State, which is
Speaker 2: an interesting move for him, if only because what we've
Speaker 2: seen at k State is they find ways to take
Speaker 2: a playmaker at quarterback and basically make it the entire offense.
Speaker 1: And he's sort of been doing that.
Speaker 2: Sure at Nebraska, perhaps he'll have a little bit more
Speaker 2: support around him at case State, but I kind of
Speaker 2: like that move for him. It doesn't feel like it's
Speaker 2: a fish out of water at all. Like I think
Speaker 2: that's a decent move on both sides.
Speaker 1: I think what we've seen historically under Chris Climban, whoever,
Speaker 1: a Kansas State team with above average quarterback play is
Speaker 1: gonna win eight games, like they just are, and if
Speaker 1: that's what Adrian Martinez brings, they're gonna win. I do
Speaker 1: disagree that they're building the whole thing because Kansas State's
Speaker 1: building the whole thing out of the shortest running back
Speaker 1: take of long right. So I don't think this was
Speaker 1: a Skyler Thompson centric offense necessarily, But I definitely think
Speaker 1: Adrian Martinez would be an upgrade over Will Howard or
Speaker 1: whoever else is in that room. And so that's fair.
Speaker 1: It does seem like this is a prime example, maybe
Speaker 1: similar to bo Nicks. They're just like, you know, you
Speaker 1: put in your time, it didn't work out. There's all
Speaker 1: this baggage from your time there. You just need. You
Speaker 1: need to move conferences, you need to move schools, you
Speaker 1: need an entire different plays and see what's what. And
Speaker 1: so I think I think it's an upgrade to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think kinds of the state has enough infrastructure in
Speaker 1: place that a talented quarterback can thrive.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the other thing that I think Adrian Martinez
Speaker 2: can benefit from is whatever kind of discipline Chris Climan
Speaker 2: teaches at Kansas State. It has been kind of a
Speaker 2: staple of that program ever since the bill Snyder Era. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but this is not really a program that shoots itself
Speaker 2: in the foot.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: They're really sound with the fundamentals, and Adrian Martinez could
Speaker 2: benefit a lot from fewer mistakes in his game.
Speaker 1: So we'll root for.
Speaker 2: Him, you know, we'll root for him and see what
Speaker 2: he can do at k State. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's official yet, but there seems to be a lot
Speaker 2: of smoke on Casey Thompson going from Texas to TCU
Speaker 2: makes sense, makes a lot of sense. Obviously, another Texas
Speaker 2: kid would throw the crap out of the ball.
Speaker 1: A very friendly quarterback coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for Sunny Dyke's so that would be an interesting
Speaker 2: spot for him to land. I think I left my
Speaker 2: move as well, Michael Penix to Washington given his familiarity
Speaker 2: with Kaylen de Boor.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're ever going to capture that
Speaker 2: Michael Pennock's magic from twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: I don't think we are.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get the connection, but I don't
Speaker 2: We're like three injuries down the road from that twenty
Speaker 2: twenty season for Michael Pennix. I get it from his perspective,
Speaker 2: trying to recapture the magic. But I don't know, if
Speaker 2: you're a Washington fan, are you excited about this?
Speaker 1: It was also just kind of a disastrous year for
Speaker 1: Indiana football, and Michael Penick's just unfortunately, it is injury
Speaker 1: prone and it might just be dumb luck. It probably
Speaker 1: is just dumb luck. But now you're running the risk
Speaker 1: if Kaylen de Boor is not a Sam Hewart fan.
Speaker 1: He is the quarterback of the future, the legacy of
Speaker 1: the five s our guy, and came in in the
Speaker 1: Apple Cup and threw a whole bunch of interceptions. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if that just you run the risk
Speaker 1: of driving somebody like that away, or if that even matters.
Speaker 1: But no, I think unfortunately, our opinion, or at least
Speaker 1: the mainstream viewpoint, as far as I can tell, viewpoint
Speaker 1: of Michael Pennix's. He dove in for a touchdown against
Speaker 1: Penn State, and he lit up Ohio State. But around
Speaker 1: those edges, he hasn't been amazing. He hasn't been a
Speaker 1: game changer, and it might just be because he's been
Speaker 1: beat up. I get that that you're banking on a
Speaker 1: healthy fresh start, I get it, But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how high I am on that decision.
Speaker 1: Another situation like who's he throwing to? Who's he throwing to?
Speaker 1: A Washington The offensive line history has been good there,
Speaker 1: but who's he throwing to? So that's that's sort of
Speaker 1: what I worry about.
Speaker 2: OK.
Speaker 1: Do you have big picture? I don't know if there
Speaker 1: are any other players you want to specifically talk about.
Speaker 2: I just I want to call out a few that
Speaker 2: are still at Harrison. Billy Transferring out of Tennessee was
Speaker 2: a big name when he stepped foot on campus. Was
Speaker 2: big time recruit Jack Miller. We mentioned Jack Miller earlier
Speaker 2: from Ohio State. He is also in the portal. Chubb
Speaker 2: a party yep. Once considered to yeah, be the quarterback
Speaker 2: of the future of Florida State. Clearly not going to
Speaker 2: be at Florida State. Tommy DeVito going to Illinois? Okay
Speaker 2: from Syracuse our boy Tommy DEFIEDO. Yeah, Jack Sears transferring again?
Speaker 2: Saw that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? From Boise. Yeah. Hank Bachmeyer in his fourteenth year
Speaker 1: of eligibility yep ocralis North Carolina SMU promising receiver. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you feel about the reality of where the
Speaker 1: transfer portal is in the sports. I'm not asking you
Speaker 1: if it's like is it good or bad and be
Speaker 1: like an absolutist about it. But this is a reality
Speaker 1: that we are talking about football coaching changes, recruiting and
Speaker 1: a portal as ways. And you know, I talked to
Speaker 1: Brandon Huffman a little bit about it. How there are
Speaker 1: like portal specific coordinators just monitoring who's good in the sport,
Speaker 1: who's entered into the portal whatever. I guess a tampering
Speaker 1: coordinator if you're gonna believe certain methods.
Speaker 2: See, that's that's a job. Not the tampering coordinator, No, no,
Speaker 2: I know, but the portal coordinator. That's a job you
Speaker 2: and I could do, don't you think?
Speaker 1: I feel like we'd be good at that. We would
Speaker 1: need to meet many more high school coaches to be like,
Speaker 1: well just going under the portal, could you? Yeah, we'd
Speaker 1: have to figure that.
Speaker 2: Let me let me make the Google sheet for the
Speaker 2: portal coordinator.
Speaker 1: Let me do that that I could do.
Speaker 2: I would enjoy that.
Speaker 1: That's that's totally good. You can do that. But it
Speaker 1: is it is a reality, right that, Like this is
Speaker 1: how roster construction works. Now in twenty twenty two, and
Speaker 1: moving forward. So my question to you is do you
Speaker 1: like it?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 1: Do you think it should exist? Because that we're too
Speaker 1: far into that, right, the immediate eligibility, the movement of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks when it doesn't work out, when they don't get
Speaker 1: the job or any position, right, whether they're disappointed, or
Speaker 1: they're homesick, or their girlfriend goes somewhere else. Like, there
Speaker 1: are a number of reasons why guys enter into a portal,
Speaker 1: But do is it something that you are finding yourself
Speaker 1: interested in and or good for the sport? Whether or
Speaker 1: not you know it's going anywhere.
Speaker 2: Well, good good for the sport goes out the window, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: good good for the sport. That's we could talk for
Speaker 2: another hour and a half as to what's good for
Speaker 2: the sport and what isn't. Yeah, I yeah, I am
Speaker 2: very fascinated by it. I am, I am completely fascinated
Speaker 2: by it because it is, in effect college football free agency. Sure,
Speaker 2: it's free agency. Yeah. And whether or not you're of
Speaker 2: the dabbo mindset that there are adult men who are
Speaker 2: who are manipulating and tampering with the process and and
Speaker 2: lying to student athletes, you know that you can certainly
Speaker 2: have that mindset if you want to. But it's hard
Speaker 2: for me to take a completely unbiased view of what
Speaker 2: the portal does for us, because all too often we
Speaker 2: come to this point in the season or even into January,
Speaker 2: or at some point in the low lows of the offseason,
Speaker 2: and we don't have anything to talk about. And what
Speaker 2: I see happening is college football very much going the
Speaker 2: way of the NFL, where we find ways on the
Speaker 2: margins here to extend the talking points, whether it's through
Speaker 2: the portal, whether it's through nil, whether it's through conference realignment,
Speaker 2: whether it's through coaching movement, whether it's through potential playoff expansion.
Speaker 2: All of these things that exist on the periphery of
Speaker 2: the sport that have growing influence. There's media rights, there
Speaker 2: are all these things that kind of add depth to
Speaker 2: the discussion year round that this is very clearly turning
Speaker 2: into a year round sport, much the way the NFL
Speaker 2: has gone over the last decade plus. And so at
Speaker 2: least from that standpoint is somebody who considers himself a
Speaker 2: super fan, I'm no expert, but I am okay with
Speaker 2: it because it gives us more to talk about in
Speaker 2: the college football side. It also changes dynamics a fair amount.
Speaker 2: It does upset the balance of the sport, at least
Speaker 2: as we've come to known it over the last you know,
Speaker 2: thirty years. Guys can up and leave if they're unhappy
Speaker 2: with a coach, leaving, a playing situation, a new scheme,
Speaker 2: what have you just isn't working out. Maybe they're homesick,
Speaker 2: as you said before. So that ability for a player
Speaker 2: to take control of his future, his destiny in college football,
Speaker 2: that is a new dynamic. And I love new dynamics
Speaker 2: because I think it forces the Alabamas and the Clemsons
Speaker 2: and the power brokers in the sport to rejigger their mindset.
Speaker 2: So I'm okay with it. I think it makes things interesting.
Speaker 2: I am fascinated by the portal this year more than
Speaker 2: ever because we've seen so much high profile movement. Is
Speaker 2: it good for the sport long term? I don't know
Speaker 2: long term. We can talk about that in May, but
Speaker 2: for now, yeah, it's fascinating. It's fascinating to see so
Speaker 2: many big names of the moves. That's a rattler to
Speaker 2: South Carolina. Come on, how is that not an interesting story?
Speaker 1: That's an interesting story. There are a certain amount of
Speaker 1: quarterback or whatever position movement, if that they're filling in
Speaker 1: a gap, or if they're giving a team that isn't
Speaker 1: traditionally able to recruit and sign top level players, right
Speaker 1: that it spreads the talent around, which is probably a
Speaker 1: good thing for the sport. But justin Fields to Ohio State,
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams and Henry to Toe to Alabama right like
Speaker 1: they're also like, we didn't know it at the time,
Speaker 1: but Joe Burrow to LSU, it was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: amazing for Joe Burrows, amazing for LSU was a maging
Speaker 1: for a college football viewer like myself and yourself and
Speaker 1: everybody listening to the show. It's great. But I am
Speaker 1: of the mindset like two things can be true at once,
Speaker 1: like fairs fair coaches can move freely, players to be
Speaker 1: able to move freely. I totally get that. I think
Speaker 1: we're we have entered into a phase where if you
Speaker 1: are anything but fully supportive of every single right a
Speaker 1: player could or should have, then you're looked at as
Speaker 1: being like you're for the institutions whatever. I think it's
Speaker 1: kind of a bummer. I think all of this player
Speaker 1: movement is great for the players, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: a bummer for fans because college football is already an
Speaker 1: impossible sport to follow, right, like between recruiting, between weird
Speaker 1: bowl games, between how the playoff gets decided, Like it
Speaker 1: would be kind of impossible if somebody if we just
Speaker 1: met somebody, if we were at a restaurant and we
Speaker 1: met somebody from Osaka, and they're like, oh, college football,
Speaker 1: what's that all about? Like it would be impossible to
Speaker 1: explain to them the details. Now, certain things are true
Speaker 1: in other sports where it'd be like, how do you
Speaker 1: explain a cap hit or dead money to somebody who
Speaker 1: wants to be an NFL fan? Or like you can
Speaker 1: buy a player in soccer, but you got to return him.
Speaker 1: Like there are things in every sport where it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a soliverble but he hasn't signed, Like OK, what right?
Speaker 1: It makes college football more difficult to follow because these
Speaker 1: guys are only going to be the top guys are
Speaker 1: there for three years, maybe four years, and so when
Speaker 1: you have players moving around, like it's just it's harder
Speaker 1: to keep track of names. And I know that was
Speaker 1: the complaint with the one and done stuff with college basketball,
Speaker 1: but for the health of the sport. It's good to
Speaker 1: root for the same players on the same teams for
Speaker 1: multiple years. And so it is a bummer that Jamier
Speaker 1: Gibbs couldn't make it work in Georgia Tech and be
Speaker 1: like that flashy, amazing running back that led Georgia Tech
Speaker 1: to Bowl eligibility and eight nine wins whatever. And I
Speaker 1: get why he's leaving because he should play on the
Speaker 1: biggest stage possible given his talents and ceiling. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's still a little bit sad to me. It's still
Speaker 1: a little bit sad to me that like the whole
Speaker 1: sport gets thrown into a you know, the Christmas globe whatever,
Speaker 1: the snow globe every December, between the coaches, between the players,
Speaker 1: and just like it's very difficult unless you do this
Speaker 1: for a living or you are on like the college
Speaker 1: football subreddit all day every day to keep track of
Speaker 1: the sport. It just it makes it a more difficult experience.
Speaker 2: It makes it harder. And it's a really great with
Speaker 2: a ton of turnover and new names coming into the
Speaker 2: sport every year. I think, you know, just broadly speaking,
Speaker 2: I think the real downside to all this movement is
Speaker 2: that at the end of the day, you've got eighteen
Speaker 2: to twenty two year old kids making these big decisions
Speaker 2: about where they want to go and play totally, and
Speaker 2: you know, you can use NFL free agency as a guide.
Speaker 2: Not all those guys work out. At least they get paid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But even in that case where you've got agents and
Speaker 2: people working on your behalf, there's no guarantees that it's
Speaker 2: going to work out right. And you may want to
Speaker 2: be a skeptic and say that kids are chasing andiel money.
Speaker 2: In some cases, that may be what's going on. In
Speaker 2: most cases, that won't be the case. In most cases,
Speaker 2: they're looking for playing time. And when you chase playing time,
Speaker 2: oftentimes things happen, You get hurt, other guys step up,
Speaker 2: there's always a better recruit.
Speaker 1: That's just always a gamble. It's always going to be
Speaker 1: a gam It feels like.
Speaker 2: It feels like the transfer portal. If we're gonna draw
Speaker 2: the comparison between the rough comparison between the NFL and
Speaker 2: free agency and what we've got going on now in
Speaker 2: college football, it just seems to me like transferring to
Speaker 2: a faraway place, or maybe you've got some familiarity, but
Speaker 2: there's no safety net whatsoever. There's just a huge risk there.
Speaker 2: There's much greater risk to you as a nineteen year
Speaker 2: old or twenty year old quarterback from Ohio State than
Speaker 2: if you're a pro. You're at least getting compensated to
Speaker 2: go elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm totally with you, and it's a gamble
Speaker 1: and hopefully you know, fingers crossed. Every one of these
Speaker 1: kids entering the portal is getting sound advice and using
Speaker 1: as many people in their lives as a sounding board
Speaker 1: as humanly possible, right, because you're gonna get good advice,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get bad advice. And for their sake, I
Speaker 1: hope they're is a lot of was it radical transparency,
Speaker 1: radical honesty? Right that they're like, look, you're a good player,
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to see you as a starting
Speaker 1: SEC quarterback. Perhaps don't waste your time with that. There
Speaker 1: are certain things that people need to hear. And you know,
Speaker 1: of course a guy is going to bet on himself,
Speaker 1: right they told me I couldn't do it, and look
Speaker 1: where I am. Now, sure that's cool too, but at
Speaker 1: least hear those voices. At least get those voices. And
Speaker 1: if everybody's telling you the same thing, like Okay, I
Speaker 1: want to start going to James Madison and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: thrive there. I'm gonna go to Jacksonville State, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go wherever. I'm gonna go to Northern Illinois. But it's
Speaker 1: all it's life, man, Life is risk, life is a gamble,
Speaker 1: and so I guess you hope that they put them
Speaker 1: all these players put themselves in the best possible position
Speaker 1: to get fortunate. But otherwise, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of disappointed people as this
Speaker 1: moves forward. All these guys that we discussed today.
Speaker 2: Won't hit, Yeah, they won't hit.
Speaker 1: No, no, they won't hit.
Speaker 2: For every Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's.
Speaker 2: You know, any number of guys who are going to
Speaker 2: the portal and it just doesn't it doesn't work out.
Speaker 2: They don't take immediately. So it will be interesting to
Speaker 2: see there are there are some big names that are
Speaker 2: still out there. We'll do our best to cover it here.
Speaker 2: But it is growing. It is growing, yeah, and every
Speaker 2: year I think it'll be a little bit more active.
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