WEBVTT - Hillary Clinton explains why Donald Trump fans need to be "deprogrammed" + Steve Schmidt explains why Donald Trump wants Jim Jordan to be Speaker of the House

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<v Speaker 1>Recently, I appeared on a podcast, one of the largest

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. It's called PbD. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I said on the podcast that seemed incomprehensible was

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that the attack on January sixth, carried out

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<v Speaker 1>by Americans aimed directly at the Constitution of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States of America with regard to its existential nature, was

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<v Speaker 1>a much more dangerous attack than the awful, murderous attacks

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<v Speaker 1>that killed almost three thousand of our fellow citizens on

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<v Speaker 1>September eleventh. Now I said something else. Secretary Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>would have been an effective president and we never would

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<v Speaker 1>have arrived at this desperate hour in the country. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this just seemed incomprehensible to my MAGA friends. What would

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<v Speaker 1>America look like with a Hillary Clinton as a president,

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<v Speaker 1>because she probably would have been a tutan president. What

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<v Speaker 1>would America look like with Hillary Clinton as a president

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<v Speaker 1>would have looked like It would have looked like what

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<v Speaker 1>America looked like before Donald Trump was president. We would

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<v Speaker 1>have had a moderate democratic president, internationalist that believed in

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<v Speaker 1>American military power, probably more interventionist than where the country is,

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<v Speaker 1>where the party is, where the where the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 1>is we would not have left Afghanistan in the chaotic

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<v Speaker 1>manner that we would have left. You would not have

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<v Speaker 1>had the complete societal chaos and lying, and you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have had a president who lied to the American people

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five thousand times. You're seeing. Hillary Clinton hasn't light.

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton has lied, but she doesn't lie like Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump lies. Now, Secretary Clinton is a serious, sober, historic

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<v Speaker 1>figure in this country, and she will be remembered as such.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that she narrowly lost the presidency to the

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<v Speaker 1>most unworthy man to ever capture the office, who has

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<v Speaker 1>done such profound damage to our country is a national tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>It always will be. Now, let's watch what Secretary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>said to the person I view as the pre eminent

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<v Speaker 1>journalist of this era.

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<v Speaker 2>Christian amanpor very strong partisans in both parties in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had very bitter battles over all kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 2>gun control and climate change and the economy and taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>But there wasn't this little tale of extremism waving, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>wagging the dog of the Republican Party as it is today.

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<v Speaker 2>And sadly, so many of those extremists, those mega extremists,

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<v Speaker 2>take their marching orders from Donald Trump, who has no

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<v Speaker 2>credibility left by any measure. He's only in it for himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions.

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<v Speaker 2>And when do they break with him? You know, because

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>a formal deprogramming of the cult members. But something needs

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, and how do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Let's understand and something. What Secretary Clinton said was

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<v Speaker 1>not to be taken literally, not to be taken seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>She is not proposing the opening of concentration camps or

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<v Speaker 1>re education camps where people who support Donald Trump will

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<v Speaker 1>be deprogrammed. But understand this, It's exactly how it will

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<v Speaker 1>be covered. It's how it will be covered on the

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<v Speaker 1>PbD podcast. It's how it will be covered on Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Bannon's podcast and thousands of other talk radio right wing podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>newsletters and so forth. Before long, and by before long,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean within a week, it will become doctrine that

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton wants to imprison magas supporters brainwash them in

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<v Speaker 1>the name of deprogramming. A thousand new conspiracies will be

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<v Speaker 1>born and the insanity will spread. Now, what Secretary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>said is precisely correct. People have succumbed out of a

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<v Speaker 1>mix of fear, cynicism, sense of opportunity, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>to a cult of personality. And it started on our

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<v Speaker 1>one of Trump's presidency, when his spokesperson walked out and

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<v Speaker 1>told the nation that something that was clearly not true

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<v Speaker 1>by plain evidence of eyesight recorded reality was in fact

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<v Speaker 1>not so. He stood for the proposition that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>would now tell you what was true. What was true

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<v Speaker 1>was no longer what you saw with your own eyes

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<v Speaker 1>eyes or read with them, or comprehended or intuited. The

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<v Speaker 1>world was made easy, stripped of all complexity. What was

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<v Speaker 1>true was what Trump said was true. And Secretary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>is right. Because there is silence to the growing danger

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<v Speaker 1>from one of America's two political parties. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of understanding that Donald Trump means it. Everything he

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<v Speaker 1>says should be taken literally and seriously. He is threatening

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<v Speaker 1>to kill, He is baiting assassination. He is endangering the

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<v Speaker 1>lives of men like General Millie. His plans to shut

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<v Speaker 1>down media are real, as are his desire to inflict

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<v Speaker 1>mortial military violence on a Marria consitizens protesting exercising their

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment rights. Understand this. If he could, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>would have ordered the military to open fire on black

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<v Speaker 1>Americans in front of the White House. Think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He tried to give the order, and next time he

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<v Speaker 1>might succeed. All of this is real, All of it

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. There was a deprogramming of sort after the

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<v Speaker 1>Second World War in Germany because that society was obliterated

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<v Speaker 1>in Nazism. It was thought troubled to dust. When this

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<v Speaker 1>swastika exploded on top of the Reichstag, people thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was over. The swastika was torn down, but the idea

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<v Speaker 1>remained an ember alive under the rubble, the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>the state is more important than human dignity, that the

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<v Speaker 1>power of a leader used with the state is the

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<v Speaker 1>meaning of life for the citizens of that state yield

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<v Speaker 1>to a leader as their pawns, no longer free, no

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<v Speaker 1>longer having liberty. When this happens, and it has happened

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again throughout history, disaster ensues. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton is talking about. Watch your words be twisted

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<v Speaker 1>into the latest conspiracy, and understand this. When you can

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<v Speaker 1>take every truth and make it into something sinister, we

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<v Speaker 1>stand at the edge of an abyss because we've lost

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<v Speaker 1>sight of what's real and what's not, and the inability

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate in that space is of fundamental importance at

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<v Speaker 1>a moment when we are in an information war where

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest idea in all of human history is under threat,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that we're all created, equally, endowed by a

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<v Speaker 1>creator beyond the realm of a politician, with inalienable rights, life, liberty,

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<v Speaker 1>and the pursuit of happiness. Jim Jordan is a constitutional

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<v Speaker 1>vandal who is unique amongst all of the members of

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Representatives in that he had advanced warning

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<v Speaker 1>about what Trump was playing. He knew full well that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was at the top of a conspiracy to try

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<v Speaker 1>to disrupt the peaceful transition of power. On January sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Jordan not only covered up a sexual assault scandal,

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<v Speaker 1>an abuse scandal at the University of Ohio where he

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<v Speaker 1>was entrusted with young men by their parents. Jim Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>was entrusted by his constituents with preserving, protecting, defending the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution of the United States against all enemies far and

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<v Speaker 1>in domestic, and he utterly betrayed that oath. He betrayed

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<v Speaker 1>it for power's sake and to support or want to

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<v Speaker 1>be autocrat. That autocrat is Donald Trump. What Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>wants is chaos, and Jim Jordan is an agent of chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is running as a classic fascist strong man. His

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<v Speaker 1>platform in the end will be to stop the chaos,

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<v Speaker 1>much of it created by him. The idea that there

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<v Speaker 1>would be a debate for Speaker of the House that

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<v Speaker 1>is moderated on Fox News by Brett Bher shows how

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<v Speaker 1>completely shattered and broken the American government and American politics

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<v Speaker 1>is at this moment. Fox News is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most pernicious forces in American life. Truly, it is an

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<v Speaker 1>industrial grade lie factory that has poisoned the American people,

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<v Speaker 1>poison civic discourse. It is a giant American grift on

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<v Speaker 1>a national scale. Rupert Murdoch has built something that has

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<v Speaker 1>the power to distort reality. It has upended the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of truth in the United States to such a degree

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<v Speaker 1>tens of millions of citizens cannot tell up down, down

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<v Speaker 1>the news that on the election night of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Behar, who is the anchor whose job ostensibly is

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<v Speaker 1>It is dark, it is insidious, it is growing. If

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News is part of it, What this is is

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<v Speaker 1>a reality show aimed at fascist America, who will respond

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<v Speaker 1>with some measure of rage en titulation, and the tea

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<v Speaker 1>leaves will be discerned about which of these candidates is

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<v Speaker 1>the best avatar for the extremism that is loose in

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party, that threatens the oldest constitutional republic in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, that threatens the rule of law, that threatens pluralism,

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<v Speaker 1>that threatens women's bodily autonomy, that threatens the agency of

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<v Speaker 1>free people to worship as they please, to speak as

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<v Speaker 1>they please, and to assemble as they please. The threat

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<v Speaker 1>at hand is a real one, and like all autocratic threats,

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<v Speaker 1>it is stewed in a broth of corruption. Nobody need

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<v Speaker 1>look further than the commercial breaks at Fox News to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the depth of the scam of the Grift, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's Mike Huckabee grown rich from selling nonsense products like

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<v Speaker 1>relaxium to help you sleep, or to the scammed who

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<v Speaker 1>are being filmed it changed their life, or his children's

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<v Speaker 1>books about Donald Trump, or Michelle Bachmann's scam about feeding

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<v Speaker 1>Holocaust survivors in Russia. The Grift and the Poison, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Division and the insanity in the conspiracies and the

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<v Speaker 1>race baiting and the malice never ever stop, either in

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<v Speaker 1>the House, Republican Conference or at Fox News, who are

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<v Speaker 1>both tips of the autocratic spear coming closer to tearing

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<v Speaker 1>down what was built more than two centuries ago. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what Donald Trump tried to tear down. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what Kevin McCarthy helped him try to tear down. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what Fox News tried to help him tear down.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what the Republican Conference tried to tear down.

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<v Speaker 1>For power.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it will always rank amongst some of the

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<v Speaker 3>most Unamerican actions, treacherous, deceitful, horrendous degradations of duty, responsibility,

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<v Speaker 3>and obligation to the United States in the practice of

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<v Speaker 3>basic citizenship. Bos News the Live Factory controls as much

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<v Speaker 3>as Donald Trump does, the levers of power inside the

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<v Speaker 3>Republican Party. It is an unholy alliance that has brought

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<v Speaker 3>chaos to the United States. The more chaos, the more

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<v Speaker 3>danger because in the end, and life's not fair, but

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<v Speaker 3>it works like this in politics, the agents of chaos

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<v Speaker 3>can often be rewarded as the agents who pledge.

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<v Speaker 1>To stop the chaos. This is out of page one

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<v Speaker 1>in the Autocrat's manual. The more chaos there is, the

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<v Speaker 1>more danger there is, the better for Trump. Because Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's message is very simple. I alone can stop the chaos,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody wants chaos in America, and many millions will

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<v Speaker 1>vote for the false prophet if the choice comes between

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<v Speaker 1>more chaos in defense of an abstract concept in this

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<v Speaker 1>day and age like democracy or law and order, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it comes under the heel of a jack boot

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<v Speaker 1>worn by a con man.