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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my best friend, Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: Brook mackmersonally.

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Speaker 1: TNF Patriots beat the Jets twenty seven fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Ask Rich.

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Speaker 1: A game where hopefully you are playing Travon Henderson and

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Speaker 1: not going against him. Yeah, because that's tough. That's tough.

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Speaker 4: A thirty point night from Trayvon Henderson tonight, really the

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Speaker 4: only guy to have an incredible night Fantasy wise. Three touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: two rushing, one receiving, sixty two yards rushing and thirty

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Speaker 4: one yards receiving. It was a big night for a

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Speaker 4: guy who really has taken over. Now I know that

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Speaker 4: that Mike Vrabel said that Okay, Rimandra Stevenson will be

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Speaker 4: the starting running back. Nah, this is kind of why

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Speaker 4: you drafted the dude and I love the slow play again.

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Speaker 4: We talked about Mike Vrabel being NFL Coach of the

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Speaker 4: Year right, one hundred percent, talked about it last hour

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Speaker 4: and nobody else is close. No one's doing more with less.

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Speaker 4: But just to think about this as an aspect from

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Speaker 4: Mike Vrabel right before you get into the Jets, like

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Speaker 4: when Jamier Gibbs comes into the NFL, the Lions and

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Speaker 4: Dan Campbell continue to keep giving the football to David Montgomery, right,

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Speaker 4: and we're gonna get Jamiir Gibbs used to the pounding

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Speaker 4: and everything, and at some point it's like, you gotta

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Speaker 4: let Jamiir Gibbs go. You gotta let him go. You

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Speaker 4: gotta let him go. You gotta let him go. And

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Speaker 4: wait a little bit too long, but did and and

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Speaker 4: when the Lions were having runs for the super Bowl

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Speaker 4: the last year, this year, okay, Gibbs has become the

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Speaker 4: number one guy there. Montgomery's more of the complimentary back

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Speaker 4: so good and sort of you can see that that's

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Speaker 4: what the Patriots have have have laid it out here.

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Speaker 4: They didn't give it to Travon Henderson. They said, Okay, no,

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Speaker 4: Stevenson's a guy. We paid him money. Now it was

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Speaker 4: they did pay him a book. Yeah, but I mean

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Speaker 4: it's running high running.

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Speaker 3: It is high running back money.

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Speaker 4: But it's also the previous regime that that decided to

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Speaker 4: we can't stop fumbling. It's always been, Hey, Stevenson's the guy.

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Speaker 4: Stevens the guy making Henderson earn it. Not just we

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Speaker 4: But now middle part of the season and the Patriots

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Speaker 4: But now he's really starting, he'll be hitting his stride

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Speaker 4: Let's give him the job. We see his talented enough.

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Speaker 4: This is another example of the job that Rabel's done

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Speaker 1: And I can see the pain in your face people

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Speaker 1: I see it behind the eyes, and he talks excitedly

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Speaker 1: It was more of the Al'sier show when it mattered

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Speaker 1: It's like you talk to rookie running backs like they

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Speaker 1: One of the big things is are you going to

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and other guys saying, hey, you know work

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, it takes some trust. It takes some time.

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Speaker 5: How do we even grade the Patriots tonight? They played

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody.

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Speaker 5: Take the like, are they big deal? Like they played

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Speaker 5: the Jets seed in proch look like said Rich. Like

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Speaker 5: we said at the beginning of the show, this is

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Speaker 5: and it's gonna be Hey, we.

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Speaker 1: Had all kinds of publicity on this. We break down

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Speaker 1: Because it's kind of a celebration of the Patriots tonight,

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Speaker 3: Of what it is. Hey, I'm not celebrating that.

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Speaker 1: The current odds now for the MVP after tonight's game.

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Speaker 3: Travon Henderson is your odds on favorite.

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Speaker 5: Wow, look at you none to actually go down because

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Speaker 3: Drake May now plus two twenty five. He was plus

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Speaker 4: Now, look, and this is the part you talk about

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Speaker 1: Drake May tonight started off easiest night he will have

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Speaker 1: Though they did get some, they didn't count for anything,

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Speaker 4: looking for a quarterback after Joe Namath and tonight justin

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Speaker 4: justin fields. The latest in quarterbacks who come to New York,

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Speaker 4: The Jets have not gotten a quarterback right in a

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Speaker 4: situation about what guys can handle, and when you find

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Speaker 4: someone that can handle your city, you stick with them, right.

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Speaker 4: The Giants found Eli Manning. He was able to handle

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Speaker 4: is unlike any other city.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: You can throw Chicago in there too. It's easy in

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles, Right, It's easier in Miami. New York, Chicago,

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Speaker 4: these are really two difficult places to play quarterback.

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Speaker 4: That's why when you get somebody, even if it's, well,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how great he is, you could probably

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Speaker 4: It's why the Bears held on to Jay Cutler for

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Speaker 4: as long as possible. It's why the Giants are lucky

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Speaker 1: a flourish This week, Al and NL MVP Awards giving

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Speaker 1: out today show Heyo Tana, You're unanimous winner in the

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Speaker 4: Very close vote three fifty five to three thirty five,

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Speaker 4: Did someone get screwed? Gonna surprise you with our takes

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Speaker 4: because they're fine. The awards are fine. In August, Kyle

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Speaker 4: Schwarber was the MVP over show Hey Otani what he

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Speaker 3: A little bit more importance.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Schwarber to the Phillies than show hated the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: because Bryce Harper is just good now. I remember we

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Speaker 1: Schwarber was, was it. They don't run away with that division.

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Speaker 1: Years well and always unanimously. That's where it comes downimous

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just sitting here saying, of course, I

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Speaker 1: I mean Pikrow Armstrong still finish top ten. He didn't

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Speaker 1: big take is. But it's not where you think it's

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Speaker 1: from cal Rawley. As soon as this got announced, cal

439
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Speaker 1: Raley got ripped, but got rooked out of this. It

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Speaker 1: was you know, cal Rawley played, you know, catcher and

441
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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge was more demanding position. He had a season

442
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Speaker 1: unlike any catcher in the history of Major League Baseball. Yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I'm absolutely with you. There's

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Speaker 1: no argument.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you want to debate the merits of what both

446
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Speaker 4: of them have done. Yeah, certain things you can't just ignore.

447
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Speaker 4: You can't say, oh, it doesn't matter cal Rowley's batting

448
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Speaker 4: average doesn't matter all the other things. No, no, no, if

449
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Speaker 4: you want to say the other things matter, that sixty

450
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 4: one runs is a big deal. Hitting two forty also matters. Right,

451
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Speaker 4: you can't just sit and cherry pick and say, oh, why.

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Speaker 3: Does it matter what that is?

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Speaker 4: No, because I'm not What are you gonna say? What

454
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Speaker 4: does it matter that Aaron Judges ops was you know

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Speaker 4: one point seven like Okay.

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Speaker 1: That's Aaron Judge hit eight points higher. Aaron Judge hitting

457
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Speaker 1: three forty is a really big deal. You can't just say,

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Speaker 1: well it batting average doesn't matter. No, it all matters

459
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Speaker 1: when when you break it all down what they do hitting, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it breaks off about the same. So yeah, I get

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Speaker 1: why the vote is close. It's not that cal Rawley

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Speaker 1: lost when Aaron Judge had a garden variety year for

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Speaker 1: a Yankee slugger.

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Speaker 4: Right, if Aaron Judge had forty home runs and one

465
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Speaker 4: hundred RBIs and he hit two eighty, I would say, okay, yeah,

466
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Speaker 4: you got rooked out of it. And this was Hey,

467
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Speaker 4: Aaron Judges is you know, getting the beneficiary of being

468
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Speaker 4: just a you know, he's a Yankees. Of course people

469
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Speaker 4: have voted for him. No, Aaron Judge put up insane numbers.

470
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I get the fact that Judge wins the MVP.

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Speaker 4: The bigger the bigger thing here is something we talked

472
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Speaker 4: about a couple months ago. And when you think about

473
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Speaker 4: the names on this list, it's gonna blow your mind.

474
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Speaker 4: This is the third MVP now for Aaron Judge, and

475
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Speaker 4: now back to back thirty three.

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Speaker 1: He's probably got about four or five elite years to

477
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Speaker 1: hit left. Eventually he'll turn to be just a designated hitter.

478
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Speaker 4: But defensively, An'll talk of defensively moving from senator right

479
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 4: field much better for him, I mean, because his center

480
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Speaker 4: field highlight for the rest of his career is gonna

481
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Speaker 4: be dropping the fly Ball World Series. So but Aaron

482
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Speaker 4: Judge still has three four more elite years left. And

483
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Speaker 4: if it's one or two more MVPs, you're talking about

484
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Speaker 4: five MVPs, and and and only Barry Bonds is gonna

485
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Speaker 4: have more. He's going to finish his career as one

486
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Speaker 4: of the top five Yankees of all time. And not

487
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Speaker 4: just Hey, I'm gonna sneak into the top five safely

488
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Speaker 4: in the top five, right and okay for most teams

489
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Speaker 4: that go okay, well, yeah, what you're talking about. He's

490
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Speaker 4: one of the top five Rays of all time. All right,

491
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Speaker 4: you're one of the top five padres of all time.

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Speaker 1: With the Rais does wayde Boggs got his three thousand

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Speaker 1: hit as a member of it.

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Speaker 2: It was a run.

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Speaker 4: That's a big deal. James Shields one of the top

496
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Speaker 4: five Rays of all time. Yea, his name nickname was

497
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Speaker 4: big Game James. He never won a big game. That's

498
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Speaker 4: the whole thing. He never won a big game.

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Speaker 3: Uh hopefully you know he.

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Speaker 1: Gave Worthy some money for that. Uh you know that

501
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Speaker 1: means one thing.

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Speaker 4: Top five Brewers of all time, top five Nationals, all

503
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Speaker 4: top five Yankee of all time. Think about some of

504
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Speaker 4: the guys that he's going to surpass, because this is

505
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Speaker 4: a list that goes Ruth, Gerig, DiMaggio, Bearra Mantle, Jeter,

506
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Speaker 4: Whitey Ford, Like, these are the guys. These are the famous,

507
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 4: most famous Yankees of all time, Roger Morris, Reggie Jackson,

508
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Speaker 4: these are the guys he is going to blow pass.

509
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Speaker 4: Mariano Rivera. These are the guys he is going to

510
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Speaker 4: leap frog and be one of the top probably top

511
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Speaker 4: three players of all time in Yankee history. It's probably

512
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Speaker 4: gonna go in some kind of order. Ruth, Jeter and Judge,

513
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Speaker 4: I mean really Jeter, because of the championships three thousand,

514
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Speaker 4: It's it's hard to argue with Derek Jeter playing shortstop

515
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Speaker 4: the captain, I mean, yes, are you a little bit

516
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Speaker 4: of prisoner of the moment, yeah, But still the titles,

517
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Speaker 4: the championships, the numbers the judge is gonna have is

518
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Speaker 4: gonna be better than Mantle, better than Maris, better than Demaggio.

519
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, this is I mean fifty six game

520
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Speaker 4: hitting street for Demaggio. But look at Aaron Judge's numbers.

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Speaker 4: When you get to the end, what it's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be safely in the top five of Yankees

523
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Speaker 4: of all time. And that's mind blowing. The most historic

524
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Speaker 4: and prestigious franchise in the history of sports has had

525
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Speaker 4: no shortage of superstars come through their doors and play.

526
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Speaker 4: Tony Lazari, I mean, gotten to him, all these all

527
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Speaker 4: these different players the Yankees have had, and Judge is

528
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Speaker 4: gonna be in the top five.

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Speaker 1: I was having fun going through a a list of

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Speaker 1: a blog called Pinstripe Valley, Right, so they ranked their

531
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Speaker 1: all time Yeke, this is ahead of twenty twenty four,

532
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Speaker 1: so it is not capdated, so hang a star on it.

533
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Speaker 1: At that point they had Judge sixteenth. He since one

534
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Speaker 1: two MVPs, Ruth Mantle, Garrig Jeter at the top, DiMaggio fifth.

535
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Speaker 1: To put it in perspective for Damago's all time stats,

536
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Speaker 1: he finished with three hundred and sixty one career home runs.

537
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Speaker 1: Judge has three sixty eight. Yeah, right, still going, still

538
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Speaker 1: going right now again different times. And this is where

539
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Speaker 1: when we start comparing eras it gets into the fun.

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Speaker 1: All right, who did this guy have to play against?

541
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Speaker 1: Wear and tear on the body, all of those things.

542
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Speaker 1: All we can do is we've got the numbers, right.

543
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Speaker 1: Not everybody's been there to go back. I can't go

544
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Speaker 1: back in the way back machine. Sherman and Peabody ain't

545
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Speaker 1: walking me through. Do I get to walk these guys

546
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: career day to day? But what we watched Judge already

547
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Speaker 1: five times, the top five MVP finalist, three wins. That's

548
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Speaker 1: there's only thirteen guys in baseball history that have won

549
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Speaker 1: three or more MVP awards. He and Otani are in

550
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: that club. It's rarefied air when you look at it.

551
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: Twenty two retired jerseys.

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Speaker 3: For the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: As you go down that list and thinking about the

554
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Speaker 1: history that they have, guys like Louisiana Lightning, Ron Gidrey

555
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Speaker 1: and the career that he had, Thurman Munson forever etched

556
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Speaker 1: in history, Pasada with his big moments that he had

557
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: along the way. Andy Pettitt, the guy that everybody forgets

558
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Speaker 1: actually is on lists and dad to say sorry.

559
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Speaker 3: Cares exactly.

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Speaker 1: But all of that to say, like this, it's a

561
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Speaker 1: robust list when you talk about the all time greats,

562
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: these Yankee numbers and the legend and some of it. Again,

563
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Speaker 1: the way the league was set up to go, and

564
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Speaker 1: some of those World Series titles, if they had to

565
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Speaker 1: go through the number of series they do in games,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's a different world. I can't take that

567
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: away from these guys from what they We won the

568
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Speaker 1: American League, we got the Cardinals in the World Series. Wait,

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Speaker 1: that's next, Yes, we go right, right, series, let's go.

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Speaker 1: What do you got, Frostburg.

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Speaker 5: Everything you guys Jeff said about it is great in

572
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Speaker 5: all but there's only one stat that matters in New York.

573
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Speaker 5: What's that World Series Championships. It's impossible for Judge to

574
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Speaker 5: ever crack. I don't know about that unless he wins

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Speaker 5: a couple I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah, that is a thing. He has more

577
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Speaker 3: drops the World Series than he does. That is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That is that is But that's that's wow, that's rough. Uh,

579
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Speaker 1: it's it's no World Series tough to do that. It's

580
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: hard to blame an individual player for not winning except

581
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Speaker 1: for that drop fly. Yeah, the drop play ball was

582
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Speaker 1: But remember we're down three games to one anyway. It's

583
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: not like if he caught the fly ball the Yankees

584
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Speaker 1: were winning the series. They were down three to one anyway,

585
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: they were gonna lose. Well, I mean, this was the

586
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: final dagger. This is a vital stake in the heart.

587
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Speaker 1: If you're a vampire, we got bam.

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Speaker 4: It's it's Football and basketball are different because it's easier

589
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: for the best players to lead their team to championships. Right,

590
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 4: you only have five guys on the court in basketball,

591
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: You're gonna your amount of time with the basketball and

592
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Speaker 4: affecting the game much more than a player ken in

593
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Speaker 4: Major League Baseball. Because of baseball, but it's gonna bat

594
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: four times a game. You gotta wait till the ball

595
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 4: gets hit to him. Right, Quarterbacks in the NFL, they

596
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 4: have much more control over there on the field half

597
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Speaker 4: the time. Right, Great players that get the football a lot,

598
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: they have much more control. There's less control in baseball,

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Speaker 4: Like you know, outside of the steroid stuff and the

600
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Speaker 4: Balco stuff. Barry Bond's like, okay, I can't blame him

601
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Speaker 4: for not winning a World Series. Like Barry Bonds is

602
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Speaker 4: an unbelievable career right now, and he finally had a

603
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Speaker 4: World Series where he was great and he would have

604
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Speaker 4: been the MVP two thousand World Series, but the Angels

605
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Speaker 4: just happened to beat them.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he was rough in the playoffs before, but this

608
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Speaker 1: is this is a case where he could have done that.

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Speaker 1: There's guys with incredible careers and it's not always their

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Speaker 1: fault they don't get to the World Series. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna blame Bryce Harper for not winning World Series. I'll

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Speaker 1: blame Bryce Harper and say, dude, you've become You went

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Speaker 1: from being a terrific great player to being a good player.

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Speaker 1: Are you get a good player for five years? Are

615
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Speaker 1: you gonna start playing a violin? Thinking of the Ernie

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Speaker 1: Banks and some of those other guys the all time grade,

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Speaker 1: It's like I gotta even sniff to play. Harper left

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Speaker 1: the Nationals they won the World sick man.

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Speaker 3: But I can't got it. That kind of kills a

620
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Speaker 3: lot of argument for him.

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Speaker 4: I can't ding him for not winning the World Series.

622
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Speaker 4: Why not, because it's it's much these you have you

623
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Speaker 4: have much? Well, look when when the Yankees won the

624
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: World Series, there's eight teams in the American League, eight

625
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Speaker 4: teams in the National League, and you go right from

626
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Speaker 4: winning the American League to the World's. No, but it's

627
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Speaker 4: it's a much easier path than it is that than

628
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Speaker 4: what happens now. It's a much easier path.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got a one hundred and sixty two games

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Speaker 1: you gotta win, you gotta win three rounds of playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and then you gotta that's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: mountain to climb to go Cashman getting stuff right.

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Speaker 5: The top five in Yankees history without World Series title.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, a top five Yankee career overall,

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Speaker 1: even with winning the World Series. Yes, without the World Series?

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: I think it makes for a fun discussion, right because

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Speaker 1: how much weight that has, right, Because Jeter doesn't win

639
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Speaker 1: four as part of the you know, with core four

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Speaker 1: and all that fun stuff doesn't matter, right, he doesn't

641
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Speaker 1: have a pile of World Series rings. He's he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that was a stat aggregator that played in New

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Speaker 1: York Exit out about a Fresca exit swelling down the

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, hell yeah.

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Speaker 1: She's our MVP, even though half the country seems to disagree.

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Speaker 3: It's mantis.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, guys, we have a perfect Talloween costume for next year.

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Speaker 7: You can dress up as Aaron Judge dressing up as

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Speaker 7: the Rock.

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Speaker 1: Today. Yeah yeah, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 3: He looked just like the Rock.

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Speaker 7: The Turtle Mack with the chain and the haircut look

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Speaker 7: very similar. So you can dress up as Aaron Judge

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Speaker 7: dressed up. If you're gonna be Aaron Judge, bring dog.

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Speaker 7: You had two dogs with him today.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so.

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Speaker 1: Instead of the fanny pack and the dog.

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Speaker 2: Is how you differentiate? Is that a word?

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Speaker 3: Differentiate?

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Speaker 2: Different Thank you?

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Speaker 3: We were there, we were close.

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Speaker 2: That's how you differentiate.

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Speaker 4: I'm an English to great, so I'm good. I'm good

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Speaker 4: with words and stuff.

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Speaker 2: That is how we separate the two.

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Speaker 4: I would just go with Aaron Judge and have people

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Speaker 4: toss me a ball and I would just keep dropping

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Speaker 4: it like that's that's all.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Judge driving and see that might go over a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of folks.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, I'm okay, you don't get it. Listen, you're

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Speaker 3: not smart enough to get my Halloween costumes. Judge it

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Speaker 3: sounds you sound.

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Speaker 7: Like a salty Jets and Mets fan.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason Smith. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: You're new here.

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Speaker 7: Apparently apparently differentiate.

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Speaker 2: That's not right?

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Differentiate?

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Speaker 2: Differentiate?

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Speaker 7: Okay, great, let's differentiate between the Patriots and the Jets.

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Speaker 7: That kicked off Week eleven of the NFL. New England

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Speaker 7: wins at twenty into fourteen, extending their winning streak to eight.

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Speaker 2: Drake May He completed.

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Speaker 7: Twenty five and thirty four passes two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 7: one yards on a touchdown that went to Travon Henderson.

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Speaker 7: We also had nineteen carries for sixty two yards and

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Speaker 7: two touchdowns on the ground. Justin fields was fifteen of

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Speaker 7: twenty six one hundred and sixteen yards. He also had

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Speaker 7: a touchdown in the air, plus eleven carries for sixty

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Speaker 7: seven yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: On the ground.

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Speaker 7: Here is his head coach, Aaron Glenn talking about his performance.

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Speaker 3: Listen, there are some good things. That's some really good things.

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Speaker 1: I thought he puts some balls out there, and we

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Speaker 1: got to have some guys.

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Speaker 7: That make some plays for him too. Obviously, I know

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Speaker 7: for a fact that he's going to say there are

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Speaker 7: some things that he could have done better.

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Speaker 3: Again, we do have to wash the tape. But I

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Speaker 3: thought there were some good things he did out there,

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Speaker 3: some good things.

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Speaker 7: New England and Bruceton nine and two. New York falls

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Speaker 7: to two and eight. As Week eleven continues over the weekend,

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Speaker 7: the Texans have ruled out CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud.

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Speaker 7: They're going to have Davis Smills start at quarterback against

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Speaker 7: the Titans. Forty nine Ers quarterback brock Perty will start

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Speaker 7: in Week eleven. He hasn't played since Week four because

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Speaker 7: of his toe injury. No practice today for Broncos running

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Speaker 7: back JK. Dot Ben's Chiefs twenty back Isaiah Pacheco and

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Speaker 7: Lions tight end Sam Laporta. In baseball, Yeah, Aaron Judge

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Speaker 7: has won the AL MVP for a second consecutive season.

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Speaker 7: He receives seventeen of the thirty first place votes. The

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Speaker 7: other thirteen went to Cal Raley. This is Judge's third MVP.

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Speaker 7: Shoheyo Tani unanimously won the National League MVP award for

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Speaker 7: a second consecutive season. He's only the second player to

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Speaker 7: win for MVPs. When it comes to the NBA three

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Speaker 7: games on Thursday night, the Hawks top the Jobs won

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Speaker 7: thirty two to one twenty two Jalen Johnson thirty one points,

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Speaker 7: eighteen rebounds, fourteen assists and seven steals. The Suns beat

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Speaker 7: the Pacers won thirty three to ninety eight, and the

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Speaker 7: Raptors outscored the Cavaliers won twenty six to one thirteen.

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Speaker 7: In the NHL, the games have wrapped up officially while

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Speaker 7: we're going to overtime between the Islanders and the Golden

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Speaker 7: Knights third tied at three goals, I believe. And then

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Speaker 7: when it comes to the Jets and the Kraken, did

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Speaker 7: that one wrap up?

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Speaker 2: Did it officially wrap up?

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Speaker 8: Not yet?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Maybe five three cracking eye.

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Speaker 3: Join fields turned the ball over.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, sorry, the Jets loss cracking one three The I

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Speaker 8: want to say in NBA history, Okay, he like that's

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Speaker 8: how close he was to a quadruple double tonight.

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Speaker 4: Only one player has gotten a quadruple double with steals,

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Speaker 4: and it's Alvin Robertson. All the other quadruple doubles are

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Speaker 4: all blocked. All big men with blocks block shots. Right,

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Speaker 4: it's all points, rebounds, assists and blocks. I think there's

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Speaker 4: only one triple double with assists. We'll have to get

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Speaker 4: the crack research staff. You have to get the great

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Speaker 4: researcher Sarah Langs.

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Speaker 1: To get a freelance into some basketball for us a

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Speaker 1: little bit, how about that. But getting after that, I

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Speaker 1: shortened g to that one World series, So I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's all right. I was thinking core four four if

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Speaker 1: Dad's gonna kick your ass, but that's okay. I came

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Speaker 1: back and I credited it too. It's gonna hit you

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Speaker 1: with something really hard. Oh, Harmon, I got something bam

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Speaker 1: coming up next. Evidence the NFL just wants to take

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Speaker 1: big fun away from every single fan and fun player.

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Speaker 3: That's next. Fox.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Fox Forest Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best

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Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: Jason, can you ride your bike with no handlers?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 3: I was really good riding with no hands. I was reading.

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Speaker 3: It took me a while to learn, but I was

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Speaker 3: really good riding with no hands. Yeah. My next door neighbor,

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Speaker 3: Billy Jones. Billy Jones was a unicyclist.

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Speaker 4: He used to be able to ride to the corner

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Speaker 4: and do this thing. He had a bike that would

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Speaker 4: just and he used to be able to ride with

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Speaker 4: no hands. He would get to the corner and just

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Speaker 4: like shift his weight and turn the bike left and

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Speaker 4: stay with no hands. I was like, Wow, that's the

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Speaker 4: greatest thing ever seen in my life. And then he

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Speaker 4: would get it and then be able to do it

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Speaker 4: again and turn and go back, and like, wow, I

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Speaker 4: want to be able to do that.

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Speaker 3: Was he able to monetize that in any way? Show? No, No,

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Speaker 3: it was the seventies. Man.

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Speaker 1: Seems like a lot of way to make a lot

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Speaker 1: of effort and risk now no reward.

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Speaker 3: Now we could go on like X Factor or something.

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Speaker 3: Get the girls with that move?

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Speaker 4: Nah, No, that was more of a hey, I'm impressing

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Speaker 4: the neighborhood kids than hey, girls going I gotta get

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Speaker 4: next to him.

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Speaker 1: No, that wasn't the trying I was hoping for the

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Speaker 1: gay Yeah, no, no it was really it was a

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Speaker 1: pretty good trailer, Like, well, I can't believe he could

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Speaker 1: do that right with no hands? Now, Uh, the NFL

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Speaker 1: wants to give you no report cards.

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Speaker 3: No report cards.

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Speaker 4: One of the most fun days of the year in

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Speaker 4: the NFL is when we get the report cards for

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Speaker 4: the teams, where it's been a it's been a tradition

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Speaker 4: the last few years, an anonymous survey of players where

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Speaker 4: they rank their teams for certain things like how they

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Speaker 4: serve food in the cafeteria to what kind of childcare

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Speaker 4: they have available. And you see the teams that do

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Speaker 4: well and get a's and teams that do horrible and

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Speaker 4: get s the food and the Cincinnati Bengals food is terrible.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just saying that because I remember the Bengals

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Speaker 4: being the bottom a lot of things. And that's one

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Speaker 4: of the most fun days in the NFL because you

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Speaker 4: get to find out what teams are doing things really

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Speaker 4: good for their players and what teams just fail at humanity.

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of a fun thing coach owner, food, travel,

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Speaker 4: weight room, and treatment of family categories. However, the NFL

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Speaker 4: doesn't want us to have this information, as they have

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Speaker 4: filed a grievance against the NFLPA asking the union to

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Speaker 4: stop its annual team report cards. They say the exercise

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Speaker 4: violates the CBA by airing public criticism of teams. The

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Speaker 4: owner who's at The head of this, of course, is

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Speaker 4: Jets owner Woody Johnson, who I believe.

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Speaker 3: What do you get? D's gotten? D's the last wee yay?

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Speaker 1: B for a coach, Yeah, okay, have for the owners,

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Speaker 1: C minus for food, C plus for travel, yeah, C

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Speaker 1: plus for weight room, and C minus for the treatment

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Speaker 1: of family C minus, if you recall, was the I

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Speaker 1: just don't want to look at you for another semester. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's your gray to pass you by.

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Speaker 4: And this is crappy on so many levels, and I

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Speaker 4: can just defend it by saying this, Hey, NFL owners,

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Speaker 4: how about you do better. How about you own a

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Speaker 4: team and you treat everybody like they should be treated.

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Speaker 4: They put their bodies on the line for you, and

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Speaker 4: they have a bad quality of life when they get

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Speaker 4: done playing in the NFL. How about you give them

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Speaker 4: like good food in the cafeteria. How About you make

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Speaker 4: sure that there's childcare ready for them. How about you

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Speaker 4: make sure that the travel is okay.

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Speaker 1: You have the money, you own an NFL team, You're

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Speaker 1: worth billions and billions of dollars. How about you run

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Speaker 1: it right because you know what's gonna happen then, is

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Speaker 1: in free agency when a team is went, well, do

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Speaker 1: I go here? Do I go here?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Man, they do everything right.

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Speaker 4: You want to talk about being able to help you

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Speaker 4: find housing and be able to take care of your kids. Oh,

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Speaker 4: this team does it right. How about you spend little

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Speaker 4: money on that.

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Speaker 1: How about you take care of the guys put their

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Speaker 1: bodies on the line for you all the way through.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a lot to ask of NFL owners.

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Speaker 1: Instead of saying no, bury it because it makes us

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Speaker 1: look bad. Do better as people, do better as human beings.

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Speaker 1: That's all I would say. Let's see July twenty third,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five NFL teams reportedly received how much money

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Speaker 1: per team? Four hundred and thirty two million dollars.

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Speaker 3: One hundred billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: So when we talk about food, right, the running joke

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Speaker 1: equated back to the a's and money ball of the

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Speaker 1: money's on the field, right.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to pay for a dollar. Where on

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Speaker 3: the field is the dollar that I'm paying for soda? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to see. It's kind of hard to see,

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Speaker 1: but it's that right. It's very much that part of it.

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Speaker 1: And even if this isn't done formally, yeah, you're telling

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Speaker 1: me that's not being done informally by by agents, by

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Speaker 1: like groups of people throughout the league. Everybody talks now

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Speaker 1: it's this is just the aggregation of that.

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Speaker 3: This is the efficient question.

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Speaker 1: Instead of hey, i've heard rumors of it. This makes

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Speaker 1: it okay, great, Okay, this is great because it's not

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Speaker 1: that the players criticize it. It's like, here's a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact. If you want to add the anecdote those

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Speaker 1: shouldn't get out, I'll listen to that. Booooo, we got

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Speaker 1: more football on the way next. A tale of two

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Speaker 1: head coaches in different directions off