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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Works

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Speaker 1: for Us, where we talk to people about what works

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Speaker 1: for them and their relationships and of course what doesn't. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So we've spoken to several business partners on Works for

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Speaker 1: Us because it's truly a unique relationship that has to

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Speaker 1: be the right fit if it's going to work. But truly,

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Speaker 1: the relationship to yourself within your business journey is arguably

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Speaker 1: even more important than the one with your partner, because

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Speaker 1: if you don't know yourself and trust yourself, evolution and

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Speaker 1: growth can be so hard to achieve. But today's guest,

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Speaker 1: my dear friend, Tina Craig, is a multi hyphenit of

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Speaker 1: the craziest kind and entrepreneur and pioneer of influencer marketing

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Speaker 1: and of course luxury skincare. If you could see her

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Speaker 1: skin right now, I promise you she actually lives what

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Speaker 1: she preaches. After originally garnering a following as a television

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Speaker 1: host with a rich media background, she launched bag Snob

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, the first ever fashion and

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Speaker 1: lifestyle blogs. A consummate beauty and lifestyle authority, Tina was

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Speaker 1: inspired to launch you Beauty with the belief that achieving

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Speaker 1: beautiful skin doesn't need to be complicated. Tina's hunger and

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Speaker 1: skill for spotting the next big opportunity is truly next level.

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Speaker 1: And she's an absolute trailblazer in so many spaces as

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Speaker 1: an influencer, blogger, and entrepreneur. And I'm so excited to

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Speaker 1: call her my friend and have her on the show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to works for us, Beautiful Tina. So Roger's not

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Speaker 1: here because you know, I like doing like when I

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Speaker 1: talk to badass women. I just feel like he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a chance in the room right now. So I

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Speaker 1: just felt like, and he's on a work trip for

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Speaker 1: the day, and I was like, I don't really want

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Speaker 1: you involved in my conversation with Tina anyway, So you know,

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Speaker 1: we could have a free for all gossip session exactly

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Speaker 1: exacting to the podcast well before we go down, like

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Speaker 1: your incredible journey and how you became sort of the

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Speaker 1: power that you are now. I want to I can't remember,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like for some reason you will. How

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Speaker 1: how we met for the first time. Was it with

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Speaker 1: Jen Meyer? I can't remember. No, ten years ago you

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Speaker 1: might come tell us, yes, yes, I forgot down in

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Speaker 1: the house our friend who was the most back is

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Speaker 1: the most backless man. And he at the time was

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Speaker 1: the head of Mema Marcus Marketing Events, and he had

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Speaker 1: an event for you in this in his gorgeous home.

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Speaker 1: It's a mid century modern all glass and a tornado hit.

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Speaker 1: And I had just met you and my god always

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Speaker 1: been a fan, and we went into they put us

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Speaker 1: in the pantry. You were literally having ten gorillas, five kangaroos,

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Speaker 1: She says, you see all times. And you looked at

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Speaker 1: me and you were almost crying, and you said, I

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Speaker 1: just had a baby. I've never left my baby. I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have loved I can't die. And Joey was with us,

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Speaker 1: the three of us in the pantry, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: for three years. Yeah, same same, And that's how we met.

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Speaker 1: And I remember we and then we take to go

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do it. I just I was contemplating,

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Speaker 1: do I know it's these by the way, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's important to share. Here's I think it's important

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Speaker 1: to share with our listeners that every working parent has

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Speaker 1: And at the time, in two thousand and five, he

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Speaker 1: really his idea and we said, okay, what's a blog

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Speaker 1: and he said, it's it's a journal basically in filmline.

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Speaker 1: lab in Italy, the biggest one, had developed a technology

429
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Speaker 1: that can treat the skin where it's damaged and bypass

430
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Speaker 1: healthy skin cells, basically guarantee you not to not have

431
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Speaker 1: irritation and to have like full results get the glow. Basically,

432
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Speaker 1: you get what you want with laser resurfacing without the

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Speaker 1: laser resurface without damage and the irritation. And that's when

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00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, she said, do you want

435
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Speaker 1: to try it? Do you want to you know, make

436
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Speaker 1: a product? And I just thought it was like being

437
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Speaker 1: invited to Aramas and make a bag or something, right.

438
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Speaker 1: I thought I was just making a serum for myself.

439
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 1: But because I started handing it to people like you

440
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: and Nikki everybody you Candis want to Pool and Kamila

441
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: Koilo and Kiara backstage, front, front of the house, that

442
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: people were loving it and giving me really thoughtful feedback,

443
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, Michellelee and there was Eva Chen and people

444
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: were like, oh, just imagine acquiring a hundred test test humans. Yeah,

445
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: that's humans. And they all would give super thoughtful feedback

446
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: based on their own experience with beauty because they were

447
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: all experts in their own fields. And that's how you started.

448
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: It was also organic everything I've ever done in my life.

449
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: When people like did you have a business plan? Did

450
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: you say? I always feel so bad. I'm like, I

451
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: didn't have a plan. I just wanted to make the

452
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Speaker 1: best product I couldn't find. No, I didn't have a plan.

453
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: I just wanted to have as much fun as I could. Yeah. Yeah,

454
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: we're very similar. We're very very similar creatures and I think,

455
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Speaker 1: I think because we came up in a different time,

456
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Speaker 1: and I think that because we were pioneers. Like like,

457
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say pioneers. I don't mean to

458
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Speaker 1: pat us on the back. I just mean like first

459
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: because it didn't exist at the time and we were

460
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 1: kind of learning as we go, right um. But I

461
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: think with that, I would say the question I get

462
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: asked the most is did you have a plan? Was

463
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: their goals? Was there? This? Was there that did you?

464
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I want to say yes to you

465
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Speaker 1: because I want to tell you how to do this,

466
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Speaker 1: but I honestly can't tell you. It's it's following gut,

467
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Speaker 1: It's a situation that feels right. It's when a time

468
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: feels right to do the next thing, and and and

469
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Speaker 1: so on and so on. And I think I think

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Speaker 1: that we are very similar in that our careers were

471
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Speaker 1: born out of a passion for a certain thing or

472
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 1: many things. And that's the evolution of the brand, right um.

473
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Speaker 1: But a necessity, necessity, you have to do something like

474
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Speaker 1: you if you want to work, if you don't grape,

475
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Speaker 1: if you want to be figured out where you can

476
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Speaker 1: still be as attended. I still did all the our pools.

477
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: You know I raised my son. Oh yeah, between right,

478
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: We're like because of the Internet, we were able to

479
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Speaker 1: do that. Think about thinking our mothers, our grandmothers, they

480
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Speaker 1: even have those options. No way, no way, And I think, okay,

481
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: so it's very important. What I think some people may

482
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: not know because it's a little more on the inside,

483
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: is not only were you probably the first fashion influencer,

484
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Speaker 1: but you have since started a State five, which is

485
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Speaker 1: your own influencer agency, which is so mind blowing because

486
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Speaker 1: there's only a handful there are. I don't think there's

487
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Speaker 1: anyone who is actually the firstborn influencer who actually has

488
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Speaker 1: an agency, so that you're so verse in what is

489
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Speaker 1: needed in each market and influencer marketing. I mean, I

490
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Speaker 1: think speaking to you is like speaking to like ohs

491
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Speaker 1: of influencers because well, because I think you understand stand

492
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Speaker 1: the psychology behind it, the effectiveness of it, the what

493
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Speaker 1: it means to be genuine. Because I think there's a

494
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Speaker 1: lot of stigma put on the word influencer, right, and

495
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: people are either obsessed with it or they make fun

496
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: of it, right, I think they look down at it,

497
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, what I want to say

498
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Speaker 1: is I was definitely someone who was a little bit resistant,

499
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Speaker 1: I would say in the beginning, because it it felt

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Speaker 1: it was confusing to me, a little bit of um.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't I don't speak about

502
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: you in that way because you worked really hard and

503
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: created something. And I think for me, there's there's such

504
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: a clear, uh, there's such a clear distinct group of

505
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: influencers that stand out, you know what I mean even

506
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: today that right, right, and so I think there's smart

507
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: people that are building brands, and then I think there's

508
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: people that are just trying to make money off take

509
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: their pictures, right right? You know the agency. Really, I

510
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: was not going to start an agency. I don't want

511
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: to manage people. Of course, when I was approached to

512
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Speaker 1: do this, because I was trying to steal one of

513
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Speaker 1: my girlfriends M's she had an employee who was an

514
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: attorney from LA who really helped other celebrities like create

515
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Speaker 1: their digital presence. And when I was about to leave

516
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: my agency, I thought, I'm just gonna bring someone in house.

517
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: When I thought, oh, like Raina James, instead of seeing

518
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: them as competition, bring them all in and teach them

519
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: how to monetize, right, And so I love the idea

520
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: because as a talent, I don't think anyone any other

521
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: agency has you know, a partner or a co founder

522
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: who's also with the talent, who can be like, I

523
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: really get how you feel and they come to me.

524
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: I have my girls, like any of them guys. They

525
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: can text me and they were like, I don't feel

526
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: good about this job, and I'll say, Okay, I get it,

527
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: don't do it like because I know how you like,

528
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: truly can emphasize how they feel because I'm there with them.

529
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: So that side of it is, I think our advantage

530
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: whereas other you know, great agents, they're all everyone brings

531
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: something really different. Our agencies a boutique agency and we

532
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, we just open an office in New York.

533
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: Though we now have also Studio five, which we do

534
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: content creation, and so it's become like full circle for me.

535
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: But it's been very fulfilling because I have, as I

536
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: always say, I'm I always find the smartest people to

537
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: be my partners. So they make me look they're way

538
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: smarter than they do. Right, I just get to do

539
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: my thing and they figure everything else out. And so

540
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: Lindsay and Susanne are my partners and our agency has

541
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: just grown so much. We now have thirty five managers. Wow,

542
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: over seventy talent I mean week, that's incredible. But instead

543
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: of but we're never going to have like five hundred

544
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: talents do great. We want all fifty five, each one

545
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: of those to be a badass and really excel in

546
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: their space and in very diversified spaces as well. And

547
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: that's that's how we We use your talent all the time.

548
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: By the way, we use your talent all that time.

549
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: And some the highest converters, Yeah, she said, in the world,

550
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: like people don't even know, Like you could be a

551
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: mom in Kansas and you're converting like a motherfucker, but

552
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: people don't even realize. Yeah, it's not just like you

553
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: don't have the famous a hundred person And also I

554
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: think it's it's authentic and I think that I think

555
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: there's sometimes I think the less famous you are, actually

556
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: you convert way more because you're more relatable on so

557
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: many levels. Now I want to speak about um, you know,

558
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: I do want to I do want to go back

559
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: to your beauty for one second because I want to say, like,

560
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm such a diehard fan of you beauty and light

561
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: Tina said, I mean, it's clearly a space that is

562
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: a very full space beauty. But I do think that

563
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: you beauty stands out beyond because it is so simple

564
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: and to your point, it's so interesting because you know,

565
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm such a beauty junkie, like I really am, and

566
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm not great at self care. So I think when

567
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: you say you only need these three items or these

568
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: three or four things or these two things or whatever

569
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: it is to transform your skin and it actually works,

570
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: it's like, wait, hey, but I have twenty things from

571
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: this brand that I thought I couldn't get that skin

572
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: without using all twenty of these, so I think it's incredible.

573
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: I also want to mention the arm sculpt. I just

574
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: need to point that out because your body. By the way,

575
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Nikki and Paris are the ones that actually told me

576
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: about arm sculpt. It was not even Tina that was

577
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: like pushing product on me and they said, oh my god,

578
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: you have no idea. It's the most amazing product. It

579
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: like tightens your skin and like dadada on like arms sculpt. Okay,

580
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: I'll try it. And I decided to just put it everywhere.

581
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll put it on my leg everywhere,

582
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: especially her neck and chest. Well that's the thing about you, beauty.

583
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: What really drove me was to create these multi purpose,

584
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: multifunctional products that actually worked that you know, the resurfacing

585
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: compound will give you that laser resurf this glow without

586
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: the damage, but it also replaces six to eight other

587
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: things right and right when you first when people heard that,

588
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, sure Mark, thankmmick, and then they try it.

589
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: That's why, you know, when we started, we sent out

590
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand samples. We paid for shipping because I'm like,

591
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: I know, if they try it, it's like being a

592
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: joint dealer. Just give them a taste, they're going to

593
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: be up to become obsessed anybody. I treated everyone as

594
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: an influencer because I felt even if you are a

595
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: stay at home mom or a career woman, you have

596
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: five friends you'll tell you're going to listen to you,

597
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: and so yes and so we you know, like we

598
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: sold out that first three weeks when we launched because

599
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: it works, and it was just that one product, and

600
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: then we launched the super Hydrator, which has now become

601
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: like everyone Like Bella Hadi the other day told me

602
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: she told her mom about it. And then she ran out,

603
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: so she went to Yolanda's house and stole hers. She's

604
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: off on her honeymoon clutching her case of sculpt in

605
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: all her beauty. She literally got ordered a case of

606
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: each because she was going for six weeks. She was

607
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: worried she ran out of new beauty, so she ordered

608
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: a taste of echia. Literally, you know, her playing with

609
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: all her products. Oh my god. I mean, listen, here's

610
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: the thing I want to point out, Like, yes, Tina's

611
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: talking about obviously very well known people, but the truth is,

612
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I think you should actually use that as a testament

613
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: to your beauty because they have access to everything, and

614
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: they get everything for free, and this is what they're

615
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: choosing exactly. So so when the supermodels and the celebrities

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00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I can't even say some of them

617
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: because they have huge beauty contracts, Like can you just

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620
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621
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Speaker 1: no one literally always the shortest person in every room,

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Speaker 1: the smallest. But I walk in like I think I'm

686
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687
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691
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695
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696
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Speaker 1: my god, and I'd go like this and they're like

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700
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703
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704
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Speaker 1: I strongly recommend it. It's like it's like a glamorous

705
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Speaker 1: robe you get to wear in the real in real life,

706
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: you know. Um okay, So I want to talk quickly

707
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: about your personal life, well, family, family life. You know

708
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: my son, it's he won't drive. He's seventeen. Jop it.

709
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Do you know Tina, when I got when I turned whatever,

710
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: it was sixteen or whatever, I literally was like, give

711
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: me those keys. I love you, yeah girl, at seventeen.

712
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: I was at eighteen, I was driving to Mexico from

713
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: LA because he doesn't want to drive. I feel it's

714
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: really hard. I heed, just wait till a teenagers no.

715
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: But this is the third time I've heard this this week.

716
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: I have a friend with a teenage daughter. She doesn't

717
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: want to get her license. I'm like, what why? But

718
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: why can you explain the psychology why? I think Number one,

719
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: they're ubering byety there's it's so easy to not drive

720
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: because they have uber. They have us and you know,

721
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: s gen X moms are like, so hands on helicopter tree,

722
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: where our boomer moms are like, what where are you going?

723
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, like they have no idea what we

724
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: have to go figure out things out ourselves, right, true,

725
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: And I think the anxiety of driving because there's so

726
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: many more cars and they're so well aware. We didn't

727
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: have the internet, we didn't know the cart that's true.

728
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: It's true. We just got in the car and drove.

729
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: We didn't even wear seat belts true. Right until the nineties,

730
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: I wore a seat belt like out of guilt. Like

731
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: I wore it because I felt like if I don't

732
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: wear it, something's going to happen, you know what I mean. Yeah,

733
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I didn't really wear a seat belt in the beginning

734
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: that I was forced to because I didn't want to

735
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: tell my outfit. Oh it does. It honestly does crush

736
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: the outfit. I basically find myself going to events holding

737
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: the seatbelts the way from my body. I know that's

738
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: an issue, but I think that's why. And then I

739
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 1: think it's anxiety and they're scared. My goddaughter just turned

740
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: twenty one. She finally got her license. That's so amazing.

741
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so shocked by it. Honestly. Okay, so

742
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. So what um, I mean,

743
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 1: you're such a baller, I mean, and your female and

744
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: seemingly fearless I mean, my question is you know you've

745
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: now built different parts of your brand in different parts

746
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: of your business, Um, do you ever lack the sort

747
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: of like do you ever not trust your instincts? Do

748
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: you ever question like this will never work? Why am

749
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: I doing this? Like? Or do you ever like what's

750
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: the fear? What? Like? Do you have a very real fear?

751
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: Do you find that you do you get pushed back?

752
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like you're in a man's world?

753
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: Or do you feel like you have a strong voice

754
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: that really is not met with the like, oh, Tina,

755
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: you're crazy, or like stop to stop, like don't you

756
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Do you get When I wanted

757
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: to do the sculpt Arm compound, what I told to

758
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: our Italian chemists they're males. I said, I want to

759
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: create in dizzile space for the arms, and they're like,

760
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: what's that's how we start? When I Tina has a

761
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: crazy idea and Tina say, oh, I want to glow

762
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: like a five year old, I'm like, you know how

763
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: five year olds glow right here, right here, but not

764
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: the tea zone. You actually are glowing from there. I'd

765
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: like to point that out that you guys can't see her,

766
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: but she's literally radiant right up at the never greasy. No, yeah,

767
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: that's super because the stuper that's what the super dust bey.

768
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: And then when I told them about that, they're like,

769
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: that's crazy, how is that going to work? No, then

770
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: you know takes them sometimes a few months, sometime to

771
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: take them a year. But with the SCULP, that took

772
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: us almost three years because when they finally figured it out,

773
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, we figured it out. We got we

774
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: got your invisible spanks for the invisible shape, prayer for

775
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: the arms. And so I do get pushed back, but

776
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: I have imposters syndrome. Like even talking to you too,

777
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: I was like, what am I going to talk about?

778
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: Why do people care? I'm so there's nothing interesting about me.

779
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a celebrity. So I'm always like, why do

780
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: people want to listen to? No, that's not true, something

781
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: funny to say, you know, because people want to be

782
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: so bored the're gonna turn off and the I shouldn't

783
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: have had her on, you know. So I have all

784
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: those thoughts all the time. But then we are the

785
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: same people. I just want you right that we actually

786
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: are so similar. It's absolutely insane. I know, but that's

787
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: what drives us, Like I have to keep working. People,

788
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: you can stop working. But I recently I started working

789
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: with a life coach, and I talk to myself now

790
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: in the morning. I'm like, you know, I tell myself

791
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: things like you're gonna do amazing, like you're amazing, sweetie,

792
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm my own Christian, or I'm my own Mamajo, you're amazing.

793
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: You have to tell yourself that. Yeah. Another bad thing

794
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna ask whole. I ask everyone in their opinion,

795
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: and I never listen. So people call someone ask whole.

796
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, I'll ask opinions from so and so,

797
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: and then they'll tell me and I'm like, no, I'm

798
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: going to do it my way, but I just want

799
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: to hear what everyone else thinks. And as far as

800
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: being a man, definitely all the time. Because men have

801
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: their again, they're wired differently. So I have to go

802
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: on a brand trip or something and the partner happens

803
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: to be mail, I'll be like, well, I'm gonna i

804
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: gotta see what my sen's doing. And I remember a

805
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: couple of times. You know, this is like how I

806
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: five six years ago, someone said, oh, stop using the

807
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: mom Card. It was a gay mail whose coach I

808
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: literally ripped his that off. I'm like, what, mom Card, Like,

809
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: this is serious things I think about, like I can't

810
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: stay the whole you know fashion. Yeah, of course, of

811
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: course I'm going to come strategically and think about the

812
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: shows I'm gonna go support and shows I'm gonna go workout,

813
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: and I have to break home a paycheck because I'm

814
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: not just out here. You know, I gotta eat. I

815
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: gotta feed my kid, especially now, right, and so I

816
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: so yeah, I feel that, especially being Asian. On top

817
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: of it, I've definitely, you know, been told certain things

818
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: like what you know, Asians all have great skin. So

819
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: just very dismissive from so, you know. But I think

820
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: I always stand strong in my beliefs. I'm not easily swayed,

821
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: even though I do get influenced, like if you post something,

822
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: I want to buy it, But I'm not easily influenced

823
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: when it comes to things I want to date, and yeah,

824
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: I know what I want to do. And and even

825
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: if I and I'm like you know what, even if

826
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: it turns out to be wrong, I have a plan

827
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: b right, and also and also you are to get

828
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: their self. You have to get the yourself. And Roger

829
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: always goes to me, why do you ask me my opinion?

830
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna do what's in your head anyway, but you're

831
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: asking ah, like me one hundred percent. I'd like to

832
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: point out that Tina and I are five days apart,

833
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: and I'm finding because I am a huge believer in

834
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: horoscopes and birth signs, and I stand by that my

835
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: virgo my fellow virgos are four September one, yeah, six days,

836
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: six days, six days. Yeah. But I mean, you know

837
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: the here's okay, So here's another interesting question, and then

838
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to let you go back to your life soon.

839
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: But so something that I don't get asked often enough

840
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: but I do speak about. So I asked you if

841
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: you felt pushback from men? Have you had pushback from women?

842
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: Because I've had tons in my current Oh yeah, I

843
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes even worse than mon. I mean when

844
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: people talk about I'm like, you know, males are easily intimidated.

845
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Aden if you get in their face and beat like,

846
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: people think they're like course, but females right the glass

847
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: ceiling like who's setting it's other females, which which is why.

848
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: But I think in this our new generation, our generation,

849
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: in this new era of life, I think we're really

850
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: conscious of that now. I's trying to really support a

851
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: bit as we find our tribe right, so we so

852
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: especially with you know, what's going on. My personal life

853
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: has been really surprising. The friends who have come out

854
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: of the woodworks, and you know, people like even you

855
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: and just I'm like, oh my god, so touching. I

856
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: don't see you guys all the time, but you reach out,

857
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: how are you doing? And I love the support that

858
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: we have now. And I think the most important thing

859
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: is to be the friend that you want. So if

860
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: you're a person who's always getting screwed, I'm like, well,

861
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: are you screwing other people? Because I don't really you know,

862
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: there's going to be women who are then I just

863
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: stay away from them. I mean, you see those people

864
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: who push back and do the things they're like, Okay,

865
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: that's not a support. She's not she's not she's not

866
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: a hundred person. And I think my person, Yeah, I mean,

867
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: I think there's nothing better than than than great women,

868
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I do think that

869
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: there aren't such great women. And I think that as

870
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: you get older, I think those are the things that

871
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: you have to mentally really come to terms with and

872
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: pick your people, you know, and pick your people, also

873
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: have sympathy for them because I always feel like he's

874
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: trying to block you, like what is going on in

875
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: her life? Yeah? Yeah, and why he angry and miserable.

876
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: So I try to talk to them, and sometimes people like,

877
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: don't patronize me. I'm I'm like, I'm not patronizing. I'm

878
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: just trying to talk to you because I always try

879
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: to find out, like what's the problem, like what would happened? Yep,

880
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm as so are you? And I think that's why

881
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: people don't really get mad at us there. We're not

882
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: very polarizing. No, I agree. I agree. Now, okay, So

883
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: last question, what because I've been thinking about this a

884
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: lot lately, what would you have What would you have

885
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: told your nineteen year old self that you that you

886
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: really didn't know and you really wish you did. Stop

887
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: worrying about what others are thinking about you, because they're

888
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: not thinking about either're thinking about themselves. Because that's why

889
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: I lived my life like worry about you know what,

890
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: if that person knows, I'll tell myself they're not thinking

891
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: about you. They're thinking about themselves. I would have made

892
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: different decisions probably, I you know not. I have no

893
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: regrets with where I led my life, but I would

894
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: have done a lot of things differently. Same but I right,

895
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: same one percent, one hundred percent. And I think we

896
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time doing that. And it's funny

897
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: because I speak to young people so much and they're like,

898
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: what's your best advice? Unlike, just you do you? Yes,

899
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: you do you? And I think that's not something that

900
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: you learn until you're older. But I think it's apt.

901
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: I think it really people need women that are a

902
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: bit older to say, like, trust me on this, you

903
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: know how like you yell at your children, not yell

904
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: at them. But like I said to Skyler the other day,

905
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: he was like, Mom, you put me in You put

906
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: me in pants and long sleeves and everybody else was

907
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: in shorts. I'm like, it was forty seven degrees and raining,

908
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: while you can out wear shorts. And he was like,

909
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, and you said, you're shivering in

910
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: library And I was like, you're a leader, you're not

911
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: a follower. Stops like stop, stop stop. But it's hard

912
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: because I always try to tell my son, I'm like,

913
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: make your own decisions. So eveyone who's really little. I

914
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: remember standing at toys r us for I'm not getting

915
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: you over an hour because because he goes, mom and

916
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: you choose, and I go, no, you have to choose

917
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: your own toys. Say no. Because so I really wanted

918
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: to teach them to make your own choices in life.

919
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: And I still do that with him when he know,

920
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: even just a little as things, because what are we doing.

921
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: We're really just ready to you know, at seventeen, we're

922
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: just ready to launch them right so now. And so

923
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: I think if you start really early and you think

924
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: about and I read that when he was young, if

925
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: you think about launching your kids by the time they're five,

926
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: everything you'll do, the way you raise them, the way

927
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: you speak to them, it's preparing to launch them. If

928
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: you have that in your head that I'm raising this

929
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: child to launch them as adults. What if you never

930
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: want to launch them. I know that I ever want

931
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: to launch them, launching with them. I'm going to move

932
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: them to LA when he goes to USC and then

933
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: I'll be able to see you all the time. I'll

934
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: come over and I'll be with you, I'll borrow your

935
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: kids because I literally just hope my kids go to

936
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: school in California. And then Roger but then, you know,

937
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: Roger said, of course, because this is how we like,

938
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: this is this is the two of us. I go

939
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: my own and want them to go to UCLA or

940
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: USC or Berkeley or somewhere in California, and Roger goes, no,

941
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: they should go somewhere that isn't California, so they like

942
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: live life somewhere in US, And like dadda, I was like,

943
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: what what you know? So yeah, this is boys boys

944
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: here we are. Well, I love you madly. I think

945
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: you're just one of the most amazing like lifting girls, girl,

946
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: badass like inspirational women. And I'm so lucky that, you know,

947
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: I've gotten to spend so much time with you, with

948
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: you know, the Hilton clan, because I think Tina and

949
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: I have been auditioning for Kathy's like fifth daughter, um,

950
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean really really third. But you know, now she

951
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: has Tessa, so you know, we're like we're losing ground.

952
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: We're losing ground. I know, she just called me the

953
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: other day, She's like, what does that thing here zapp

954
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: in your Facebook? Do I need it. You know, she's

955
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: so funny. I can spend hours on the phone with

956
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: her and she's she's always texting at like three am.

957
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: You know. I saw Kathy out last night and Rick.

958
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: And what was so beautiful was I got to as

959
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Rick and Kathy, I just finished talking

960
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: to Tessa and Baron. And for those of you that

961
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: don't know, Baron is Paris and Nicki's brother, one of

962
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: their brothers, who is married to this angel of the

963
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: most magically beautiful angel with its spirit, the sweetest, loveliest

964
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: girl named Tessa. And I looked at Tessa and Baron

965
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch talking to each other, and then

966
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: I was talking to Kathy and Rick over here, and

967
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I was like, they're They're the next Kathy and Rick

968
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: like they like I was just watching it. They're so

969
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: beautiful and so magical, and so are Paris and Carter,

970
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: and so are Nikky. Just beautiful, you know what it is.

971
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: And James, because they had that example, I agree. I

972
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: always I always tell I'm always say, Kathy send me

973
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: that text that Rooks saying, because they send each other

974
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: the sweetest things. I'm like, is that's what I want?

975
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: They are, let me tell you for those of you

976
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: that don't know, I mean, nobody knows of the Hilton

977
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: family obviously, but I just want to say, and I

978
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: think Tina and I will look close on our love

979
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: for the Hilton family just because, but I think it's

980
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: important to know that as well known as they are

981
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: and as everything, they're the kindest, most loving, hilarious family

982
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: that just live life to the absolute fullest and just

983
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: deeply love each other. And it's a really loyal, honestly

984
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: loyal beyond, loyal beyond, and it's all it's all from

985
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: the matriarch, right, It's totally both of them setting that

986
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: example of true love. I mean, Kathy traveled to Italy

987
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: with NICKI and I this summer, should never gone to

988
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: Europe without Rick. So the Joe I've I've never gone

989
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: without Roger since I've been with him. That's you guys too,

990
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: You have that same love. When I saw you guys

991
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: at the wedding and I was admiring your joy, he

992
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: runs up and he's like, isn't it gorgeous? Like he

993
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: just loves the part of everything you're in, and just

994
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: like it looks so good on her, Like it's the best,

995
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: and it's a true partner, true partner in life, in love,

996
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: and that's what I want. They're going to have that

997
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: Lady Tina manifest it. It's all happening, that's all happening.

998
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: Well on that note, my love, Um, I love you madly.

999
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with you. And for those of you

1000
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: that don't know you, beauty, it is next level skin

1001
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: changing And if you go on Tina's Instagram, you can

1002
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: see her do a skin because you really, I mean,

1003
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: it's live, it's in real life. It's not filtered. It's

1004
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: like it's for real. I'm a diehard and it happens

1005
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: to be. By the way, my favorite product of all

1006
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: is in the holiday edition, Winter edition of Curator, and

1007
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: it is next level. It's it's so I'm unlike my

1008
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: fifth bottle. I think actually I have sex with those

1009
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: boxes because I think they're so Because you know, it's

1010
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: like having Rachel Zoe dress you right everything, She's essentially okay,

1011
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: this is it, got the okay I can wear that.

1012
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: I can wear that. Really, that's what they want. Everyone

1013
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: just wants to tip from an expert like you. That's

1014
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: why I think that is such a genius when you started,

1015
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, genius. I don't want to box from somebody

1016
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: else's i'n't even know who these girls or who that

1017
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: person is no offense to them, But I want to

1018
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: box from Rachel just because she's curated it for you

1019
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: and she's the stylist that everybody wishes they could have

1020
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: or to have in their closet every day. And so

1021
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: with these boxes, I feel like I have Rachel. Once

1022
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: a month, I get Rachel. That's so funny because that's

1023
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: actually People always say why did you start care tour?

1024
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: And I always say, because I wanted to style as

1025
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: many people as I possibly could. So I love you. Wait,

1026
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: I also love that mug. You guys can't see, but

1027
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: she's holding that How many ounces is that? I think

1028
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: it's like five ounces. It's so big. Look, it's bigger

1029
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: than my head, and it's my peak tea and my

1030
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: college so much, and it's it's like, I'm just like

1031
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: drinking my tea. I'm gonna I'm self caffeinated. So it's

1032
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: just like good, I'm going I'm going to drink some

1033
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: college in too, so I look like Tina. I'm I'm

1034
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna send this to you. I'm gonna send this to

1035
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: you and I love you madly. Thank you so much

1036
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: for being on UM and I will having me. I'll

1037
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: see you after the holidays. Yes, by my sweet Okay,

1038
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: bye bye Angel. So Tina Craig, I mean, you know,

1039
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: it's funny whenever I get lucky enough to interview one

1040
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 1: of my like badass female friends in a one on one.

1041
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: It's so funny because you'd think that I kind of

1042
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 1: know everything and I know the story and I know whatever,

1043
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: But I really do learn every time I speak to someone.

1044
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: And for me, I think it's important to know that,

1045
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: like when people are the kind of og of something,

1046
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: there's a reason for it. It's because they didn't follow somebody.

1047
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: It was an idea they had, it was it was

1048
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: a dream they executed on. It was a passion that

1049
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: they followed. And I think Tina is such an example

1050
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: of that. And she actually, like she actually initiated an

1051
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: entire movement of bloggers, fashion bloggers and beauty bloggers and influencers.

1052
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: And the fact that not only is she still doing it,

1053
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen or so years later, she has her

1054
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 1: own agency, she has this incredible beauty brand, and so

1055
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: I just find her to be so impressive. And you know,

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