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Speaker 1: is percent vegetarian, but one hundred percent me. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan hans As I am joined in room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What is up boys? Hey? He and if you're not aware,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler is the resident vegetarian. That was an odd

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Speaker 1: way to get into this show. It was unusual. We

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Speaker 1: our listener, here's something we have no control over, and

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Speaker 1: you have to wonder, I mean, this is our program, Greg,

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Speaker 1: it is under our control. We've chosen to seed the floor.

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Speaker 1: Do you you're making it sound like it was a

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Speaker 1: decision we made rather than we just said, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: one lesson thing that we have to work. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: much other. Let's get together for yet another brain storming

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Speaker 1: someone else do it. I don't care what they have

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Speaker 1: to say about us. Um, thank god, by the way.

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Speaker 1: So it's just like endless brainstorming. It's just like we

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Speaker 1: doing a fine job with them. Um they are, and

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Speaker 1: thank you to money. Uh big late slate of games

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Speaker 1: and it got me back up eliminated that four team

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Speaker 1: But it feels like a win well and as a

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Speaker 1: a gleam gentleman. No, no, not really, but I know

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Speaker 1: you're you're a tape grinder, a tape monkey. What do

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Speaker 1: including the late game of the Year, America's Game, which

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Speaker 1: lived up to the promise let's start right there. Breeze

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're really claustrophobic. He gets away from the run. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this one. Just let that horn. It's like a Viking's

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Speaker 1: right game following last week's loss. It was I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: didn't do the rundown of games here alright. Forty six

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Speaker 1: saying I don't think he likes Lamar Jackson on the field,

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Speaker 1: and he is not. He's going out of his way

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Speaker 1: to make sure the man is not involved with this offense.

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Speaker 1: I am not subscribing to that or any other conspiracy theory,

432
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Speaker 1: but um, but I am going to eat Crow for

433
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Speaker 1: continuing to say this Ravens team is good and they're

434
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Speaker 1: now four and five. Rappaport is reporting that John Harbor

435
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Speaker 1: is in trouble. The Ravens are heading into their bye week,

436
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Speaker 1: and it sounds like their owner is gonna look over

437
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: this situation. Wow, it would seem crazy to do it

438
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Speaker 1: during the season, and I don't think they're that far away.

439
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: They were certainly the inferior team, But it was really

440
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Speaker 1: just like red zone when when the Steelers are in

441
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Speaker 1: the red zone, they have James Conner, first of all,

442
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Speaker 1: who is breaking tackles when over a hundred sixty yards

443
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Speaker 1: from scrimmage is they set up a nice touchdown for

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Speaker 1: him as a receiver. Whereas the Ravens, Flacco just missed

445
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: a few throws, including that one, but another one to Crabtree.

446
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: They're using Lamar Jackson a ton and then there's no

447
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Speaker 1: there's no rhythm there. And then you look at what

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Speaker 1: they did to their receivers. They threw ten passes or

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Speaker 1: rather thirteen passes the crab Tree and John Brown for

450
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Speaker 1: less than fifty yards. It's just not an explosive offense.

451
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Speaker 1: Flacco is fine, but these this is the worst two

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Speaker 1: game stretch of his career. They're the team that's built

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Speaker 1: like a team that the NFL has moved on, and

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are you know, it takes a while to

455
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Speaker 1: build that kind of an offense. But you've been beaten

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Speaker 1: by the Saints and by the Panthers in the last

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Speaker 1: three weeks. You just got taken out by Pittsburgh. It's

458
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Speaker 1: hard to take you seriously. They're done in the a

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Speaker 1: f C North. There now three they're one in three

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Speaker 1: in the division, their three losses behind. The Steelers don't

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Speaker 1: even have to play another game in the division till

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen. And I do think West's boy Mike Hilton.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He might be like the key to

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, him and Joe Hayden getting getting healthy.

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Speaker 1: When Mike Hilton came back, this defense just looked a

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Speaker 1: lot better and he made a number of plays today.

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Speaker 1: I think the Ravens have to go six and one

468
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Speaker 1: down the stretch. That would put him at ten and six.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to do that. Stealers to me are

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Speaker 1: right there with the Chiefs and the Patriots. Yeah. I

471
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Speaker 1: feel like you're taking it easy on Joe Flacco right now.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just like, what do you expect up?

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Speaker 1: And I would say on balanced. This season has been

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Speaker 1: a a a Joe Flacco season, a better than the

475
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Speaker 1: last two seasons, right in line with most of his career.

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Speaker 1: But that's why they drafted a quarterback round because it's

477
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Speaker 1: not good enough. It's not And maybe he was until

478
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Speaker 1: the last two weeks and he hasn't had a two

479
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Speaker 1: week stretch, but again this yeah, he's just bah, he's

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Speaker 1: yeah uh and oh the Roethlisberger hit he took was brutal.

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Speaker 1: H Greg You're not always great with your injury predictions,

482
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Speaker 1: but it happens to like to make bold injury predictions

483
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Speaker 1: that the usually season ending injury predictions downstairs in the

484
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Speaker 1: news on a typically we lack the context because Gregg's

485
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Speaker 1: watching the game. Maybe we're not watching it, so just

486
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, bummer, Like I remember Evan Ingram towards

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Speaker 1: a c L earlier this season, there have been several things.

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Speaker 1: This time we were told, oh, Ben big Ben probably

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Speaker 1: broke is clap, not even probably, I didn't say. I

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Speaker 1: didn't say probably. It was a vicious Hiatt looks made

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Speaker 1: a major play like eighty seconds later. Yeah, that kills

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Speaker 1: any other quarterback. Roethlisberger is a freaking tank. Looks like

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be Josh Dobbs the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: I think the key with like talking about devastating season

495
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Speaker 1: injuries injuries is to get ahead of the story. Make

496
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Speaker 1: sure your first to let the news room know and

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Speaker 1: shout out to Josh Dobbs, who got them out of

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Speaker 1: deep in their own territory. Are with like a twenty

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Speaker 1: five yard throw, there's a huge play, and that was

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Speaker 1: a big play in the game. So DBSy, nice job,

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Speaker 1: you know who wouldn't have done that? And all the

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Speaker 1: other guy what was his named Landry and Andrew June

503
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Speaker 1: forgot about that guy? Righty? Do you ever make a

504
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Speaker 1: play in four years? There? Stobbsy is the future? Well,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. Fifty one yard attempt for

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Speaker 1: the win. The snappers down the right? Why right? Why

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Speaker 1: it's no good? That's why? Right? The Texas win it.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen seventeen, Houston prevails. The Texans have one there, six

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Speaker 1: straight game. Yeah, they did, Mark Vandermere, Andre Ware, John

510
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Speaker 1: Harris and that in that booth, celebrating to Texas Radio

511
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Speaker 1: Network Brandon mcmadis's fifty one yard field goal attempt when

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Speaker 1: wide rights time expired, allowing Houston escaped Denver with a

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen win over the Broncos Broncos. Yes, that's six

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Speaker 1: straight wins for the Texans. Uh. And for the Broncos

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Speaker 1: as a crusher. I mean, the team that was once

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Speaker 1: too and oh is now three and six. Their playoff

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Speaker 1: hopes severely damaged by this one. Uh. You know, if

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Speaker 1: they go six and one, that might not even be enough.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, I mean you and he fallen to three

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Speaker 1: and six. Uh, that's too many losses this early, So

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Speaker 1: they're in deep trouble. Um, I do wanna just to

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Speaker 1: get Greg you fired up a little bit. Um talk

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Speaker 1: about the McManus attempt at the end, because case Keenum,

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Speaker 1: you know, cases case, and he was up and down

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Speaker 1: in this game, but he completed on a fourth down, uh,

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Speaker 1: near midfield I'd say about around Denver's forty yard yard

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Speaker 1: line and fourth down, with the pass rush closing in

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Speaker 1: in about a minute to play, he hangs tough in

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Speaker 1: the pocket. He delivers a strike over the middle, first

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Speaker 1: down on the other forty and Uh, Denver now is

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Speaker 1: set up to win this game down too, And what

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Speaker 1: happens Vance Joseph, who was running out of time and

533
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: maybe when you hear this, he'll be out of time.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. It's it's getting to that point, settles

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Speaker 1: and gets very conservative. Uh, in a very windy day,

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Speaker 1: even though the wind had died down for this kick.

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Speaker 1: He he settles on essentially a fifty yard field goal

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00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: for the win, and McManus pushed it and that's it.

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00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: And then Bill O'Brien on the other side, And this

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Speaker 1: is one of the great subplots of Week nine. And then,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, maybe the season, maybe the history of football. Uh,

542
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: they catch O'Brien on the sideline. We think, we think allegedly,

543
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: but if you could read lips you can get the gist.

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00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: What is he's saying as he goes to meet Joseph

545
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: at midfield for the hands, Well, no, he's well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not like he's right near Joseph. Yeah, it appears.

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien says, good job bands, you dumb censored. Oh

548
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: that's brutal. But the reason he's saying is it did

549
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: not take a gifted tactician to know you don't settle

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Speaker 1: for a fifty yard field goal. And that's what the

551
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: Broncos did and it might have cost them their season.

552
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: Coaches have been doined this I probably since you know,

553
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: the last fifty years or so, are we gonna start

554
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: seen like more aggressive situational football in fielcal situations. It's

555
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: it's insane. It's like it's like human there's been so

556
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: much progress in human evolution and and football tactics. It's like,

557
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: and you we still can't overcome this that men that

558
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: are getting paid, you know, millions of dollars a year

559
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: haven't figured this one out. An The reason not to

560
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: hire another defensive minded coach is your your lead guy

561
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: I mean, they hinder their bye week Denver and because

562
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: he deserves don't even know, Bill Musgrave isn't exactly like

563
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Speaker 1: the freshest I'm not, I don't. I'm sure he's a

564
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: very good coach, but he's been around for a while.

565
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Speaker 1: He may subscribe to these old old way thinking that

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Speaker 1: the buck stops with the head coach, so that maybe

567
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: they're a fright kom like doing something loose. But I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Mcmanuson missed a kick earlier. He missed

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Speaker 1: a kick I believe last week. It's like he's one

570
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Speaker 1: of the more reliable kickers though too. That's why make

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Speaker 1: it harder though. It's this philosophy that it's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: it's the kicker's fault, not my fault. And the tech

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00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: by the way, oh yeah, Zuster is hot. That's five

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Speaker 1: straight Packers better win this game. And I got lucky,

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Speaker 1: just like the Texans got lucky here because Denver, like

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Speaker 1: I said, was well set up to steal this game

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Speaker 1: and they couldn't get it done. And you look at

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00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: the Texans are the luckiest team in the league right

579
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: now if you look at if you look at the

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Speaker 1: Colts game, the Cowboys game, even the Bills game, and

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Speaker 1: in this game, just the fact to win all four

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Speaker 1: that I don't disagree with you. But what I'll say

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Speaker 1: is this, I think this is a team that's getting

584
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: better as the season goes along, and having those lucky wins.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna give them back. They're not gonna say

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Speaker 1: sorry for it. Um. I think there's I think this

587
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: team is gonna start peaking the one. I was a

588
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Speaker 1: little disappointed that they didn't close this game out like

589
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: I thought they would because they weren't able to get

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Speaker 1: to Keenum and then kind of needed Joseph and McManus

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Speaker 1: to bail them out. But a win is a win, uh,

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Speaker 1: And when you could basically eliminate a team from the

593
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Speaker 1: playoff picture while you're at it, to your dan if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're in the side that you think they're

595
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: gonna search, they have the Titans, Browns and Jets over

596
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Speaker 1: the next when they come out there, by a general

597
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: are great. And DeAndre Hopkins just putting this team on

598
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Speaker 1: his back. Ten catches a hundred and five yards on

599
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Speaker 1: twelve attempt when you really don't have any receiving options,

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Speaker 1: and he's the one and he does it week after week.

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Speaker 1: Damarius Thomas, in his debut three for sixty had a

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Speaker 1: thirty yard or early in the game. So he wasn't

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Speaker 1: a huge part of the game, but he was a contributor,

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Speaker 1: and you imagine they're going to give him more reps

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Speaker 1: a is as things go on. Broncos also lost their

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Speaker 1: best offensive lineman, Matt Paradise to a six to eight

607
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Speaker 1: week injury and broken legs. I don't think he's missed

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Speaker 1: the game his career, Paradise lost. I think you mean,

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Speaker 1: let's move on halfback right, Mahomes will throw retreating steps up,

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Speaker 1: fires up for the ends on Kelty. Great catch touchdown

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Speaker 1: can City second of the day for Cleveland High Tight

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Speaker 1: School and Travis Kelsey. Mitch Holt is, of course, Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Radio Network m VP front runner. Patrick Mahomes passed for

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Speaker 1: the seventy three touchdowns, two to Travis Kelsey from wherever

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Speaker 1: he's from, as the Chiefs rolled to a thirty one

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Speaker 1: win over to the Browns. Uh. This is the first

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Speaker 1: game for Cleveland without Hugh Jackson's or Greg Williams as

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Speaker 1: in GIMS owned one. Mahomes is twenty nine t d

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Speaker 1: passes and three thousand, one and eighty five yards uh,

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Speaker 1: the most by any quarterback through ten games since nineteen fifty,

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Speaker 1: and he's passed for at least three hundred yards in

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Speaker 1: eighth straight games. Mark, we are all witnesses more of

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Speaker 1: the same for Kansas City. I mean, this game felt

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Speaker 1: very cooked for Cleveland when Greg Williams decided to deactivate

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Speaker 1: to Marius Randall, who is dealing with some injury stuff.

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Speaker 1: But then Denzel Ward went out with a hip injury.

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Speaker 1: Then E J. Gaines was soon lost with a concussion.

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Speaker 1: They had a bunch of brownies flying around the secondary

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Just ate them up when you watch

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Speaker 1: this game. What they did with open spaces in the

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Speaker 1: flats and the way they used their screen game to

632
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Speaker 1: absolutely devastate Cleveland's defense. It put them, like with so

633
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Speaker 1: many other teams to play the Chiefs for right away

634
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: on their heels trying to catch up. And Cleveland initially

635
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: countered with this very bizarre strategy. Well, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess if if if you could have done it all

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Speaker 1: game long, would have worked. But this seven plus minute

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Speaker 1: drive where all they did was run the ball, it

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Speaker 1: was keep the keep the ball out of Kansas City's hands.

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Speaker 1: But then you know, right right after that possession where

641
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland scored a touchdown, the Chiefs come back and scoring

642
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: like three seconds or up. Do this against Kansas City, right, Yeah,

643
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: you can play all the ball control you want. The

644
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: greatest ball control game of all time is Super Bowl

645
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: five the Bills and Giants, But the Giants got stops

646
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: on top of it, you know, having the ball for

647
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: forty minutes in that game. What did you think of

648
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens in his play calling debut outside of the

649
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: early attempt to just run the ball like you're playing

650
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, essentially Madden against someone and take out the

651
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: entire first and second quarter more quick passes. I thought

652
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: it was I thought it was probably Baker Mayfield's best

653
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: game in a while. He threw a late bad pick

654
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: in garbage time, but really it was this was not

655
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: on Mayfield, was on the defense. I thought that they

656
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: the off. It's looked as organized as it has in

657
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: a while, and how could it look much worse than

658
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: it's looked for large chunks of games. And the Browns defense,

659
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: which had made a lot of plays in the first month,

660
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: has really not done much the last three or four weeks.

661
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's not that you expect them to against

662
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It strikes me and looking at the box scores,

663
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: six different players had plays of over twenty yards for

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I mean that's just like, what are you

665
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: gonna do? They had at one point in the first

666
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: half a fifty forty one and nineteen yard game. I mean,

667
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: it looked worse than that. The half glass full, half

668
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: glass empty. With the Browns half glass full. I would

669
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: love to have my rookie quarterback. The production the bay

670
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: field is competitive, and he he makes plays, he makes mistakes,

671
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: but he looks like a guy that's you know, learning

672
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: on the job and progressing. The half glass empty is

673
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 1: Browns have two wins in the first nine games. And

674
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: this was supposed to be a little different this year,

675
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of more of the same. It's

676
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: more of the same, but it's it's also completely different

677
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: because every other year this would systematically happen to Cleveland.

678
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: It's Brandon Whedon or Austin Davis or Johnny Manzel just

679
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: left the team and is facing you know, charges and

680
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: arrests and drug issues. So it is different. Just the

681
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: same with your Jets to have a quarterback. That they're

682
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: basically like, we got rid of everyone because we're going

683
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: to get the right people to put around our quarterback.

684
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: That is different. It is weird though that week when

685
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: I probably was the one who said this was like

686
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: any one of these four teams could win the a

687
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: f C North. You can make a case. It's like

688
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: it's fast forward a month. That was a long time.

689
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: This is the game from the six. Wilson shotguns snap

690
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: passing down, pocket collapses, Wilson steps up, froze to the

691
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: end zone and complete. Chargers win and the Bolts have

692
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: won their fifth straight game and improved the six and two.

693
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Speaker 1: Come on, get on the mic? Was he not? That

694
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: was money right? That was all money out? Like there

695
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: might have been an edit in there. Who knows he edited?

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00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: Uh money dj kf I. With the call down eight

697
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: with one untimed down left, Russell Wilson bought time founded

698
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: open David Moore in the back of the end zone.

699
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: More couldn't make the catch though maybe got tipped deflected,

700
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: but it was enough to lead to the incompletion. The

701
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: Chargers escaped with the win. Nineteen was at the Clint

702
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: greg kicking issues again plagued the Chargers, but they managed

703
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: to avoid the collapse just barely. Yeah, I don't want

704
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: to talk about Calebster just missing extra points and field

705
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: goals ten kicks in six games. Not only that, pulling

706
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: off the rare daily double of missing an extra point

707
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: that would have ended the game and then getting a

708
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: penalty for tripping on the ensuing kickoff that was not

709
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: a very good kickoff. Was he trying to break his

710
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: own leg? I wanna focus more on the first fifty

711
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: five minutes of the game, where two things stuck out.

712
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is a far inferior quarterback right now to

713
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, at least in terms of the two passes.

714
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: Let's say the two passing games as a whole, and

715
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: then one of the two teams is more aggressive because

716
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: of that passing game. Rivers is so good at avoiding sacks,

717
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: not taking negative plays. The three sacks that Russell Wilson

718
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: took in this game, especially early, we're all on him. Uh.

719
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: He put his team in tough situations. He threw that

720
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: pick six, but before that even I really had him

721
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: as having a very negative day, whereas Philip Rivers made

722
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: some insane back shoulder throws. They really county on the

723
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: big plays. It's a little like an uneven offense that

724
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: just counts on the big plays. But they're hitting him

725
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: every week. This is the best Philip Rivers that we've

726
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: ever had. I think m I would not go that

727
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: far to me. He well, we're far away from remember

728
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: the year where it was like they were so worried

729
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: about him that he got he was yeah, because he

730
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: was such a disaster. This is what he looks like

731
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: with with good pass protection. For the most part, his

732
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: right tackle is getting him killed. But other than that,

733
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Speaker 1: they have a have a good pass protection. And there

734
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: was one kind of sequence early in the game that

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00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: struck me. There was a Seahawks had third and eighteen.

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00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: They run the ball and punt it because that's just

737
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: like what the sahak. The Chargers had third and fifteen

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Speaker 1: from their own eleven. Two plays later, they have a

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00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: touchdown fifty four yards to Allen thirty four yards Melvin Gordon,

740
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: who's running like crazy, and they just have enough playmaker.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned closers on the Texans, like the Charges are

742
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: kind of like that, at least on offense that anyone

743
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: can pop off for forty yards they have the Raiders,

744
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Broncos and Cardinals after this. That's how you get to

745
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: and they and then face the Steelers won five in

746
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: a row. Here Keenan Allen, who's been quiet this year.

747
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: He he had a nice game. Uh here um And

748
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler, who we know is the PF Darling. He

749
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: was nominated he didn't win last week. Who took home

750
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: the PF Darling of the Year. Big victory everybody. I

751
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: gave it to Trey Flowers, of course, but Keenan Allen,

752
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, uh, Philip Rivers. That is a troika. It

753
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: has to be on your radar day and his is

754
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: like the guy who's got the kicking beat covered that

755
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: the Chargers always picked the wrong kicker. They're cursed. Sturgist

756
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: missed two games. In his replacement, Michael Badgeley made all

757
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: ten of his kicks, so they send him to the

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00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: practice squad. Put Caleb Sturgis on the field. He misses

759
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: three kicks. He's been missing kicks all year. There's one solution.

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00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: Cut Caleb Sturgis and sign a guy in the building.

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00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: See how's lost Chris Carson in this game to an

762
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: injury which could be a very big injury for them

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00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: because Mike Davis not as good and they and they

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Speaker 1: the toss flips it on the screen. Here's Julio Tones

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Speaker 1: down the far sideline and we'll score. Oh my heavens,

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones scoreless streak. But now it's over. Westerham, Dave Archer,

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Speaker 1: John Michael's Falcons Radio. Nowwek Julio Jones. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the end zone. The all pro wide out ended his

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Speaker 1: twelve game touchdown drought one of four touchdown throws from

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and the Falcons win over the Redskins. That's

801
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: three straight wins for Atlanta. Chris Wesley and the Skins

802
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: weren't at the Falcons level, and this one, why not.

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Speaker 1: This was the most impressive Falcons game of the year.

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00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: And really they really shoved it in my face after

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00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: I said that I almost locked the Redskins and I

806
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: wasn't fearful of the Falcons because of their defense, and

807
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: the Redskins want to control the trenches and they want

808
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: to jump up ahead early and play ball control the

809
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: Falcons one up front on both sides of the ball.

810
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: In this game. I thought the Redskins would push them

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00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: around and it went the other way. Uh. Part of

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00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: that was because the Redskins played without left tackle Trent Williams,

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00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: then lost too offensive lineman on the first two series,

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00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: then lost Brandon Sheriff later in the game, so they

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00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: didn't really have much of a chance there. Um Adrian

816
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Peterson was getting blown up in the backfield over and

817
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: over again. And this was a complete win. I think

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00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: we can bury any of the concerns about Steve Sarkisian.

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00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: The Falcons are one of the best third and long

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00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: offenses in the league. They kept converting over and over

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00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: again on third and long in this game. They're one

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00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: of the best red zone offenses in the league. I

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00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: believe they've scored touchdowns on seventeen or last twenty trips

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Speaker 1: to the red zone. This this team is kind of rolling.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Greg's been saying, don't bury them, don't

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Speaker 1: bury their playoff chances. They're still, you know, pushing a

827
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: rock uphill with that schedule on the second half. But

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00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: they're not over yet. I mean, there is a huge

829
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: difference the eighteen games last year. The season opened against Philly,

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00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: there was just major issues of that offense, and everything

831
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: has melted away every week. The numbers, the yardage, the

832
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, it just pilot up. It's it's a top

833
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: five or six offense. And that's why I've I've said

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00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: the whole time, let's not give up on them, because

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Speaker 1: if you have a top five or six offense, you're

836
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance. And the thing that you know,

837
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear from us about was just the

838
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: running game forty eight yards from the two running backs today.

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Speaker 1: That as someone who's kind of rooting for the Falcons,

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00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: that makes me feel good because that's the part that

841
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: hasn't really been there for them. Yeah, Tevin Coleman had

842
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: some chunk plays in this game. He had Um, he

843
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: had a good game. But like I said, the Falcons

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00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: controlled the trenches up front, and and they're doing it

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Speaker 1: with both guards out for the season. Um. They looked

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00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: well coached in this game, really well. I'm in off

847
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: of bye week ten of thirteen. On third downs, you

848
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: just seem to get Matt Ryan this year two with

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Speaker 1: these coordinators. Jake Gruden at halftime said our third down

850
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: defense as a joke, and it was. But part I

851
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: count part of that is Matt Ryan. Like one of

852
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: the things watching them is I would want a lot

853
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 1: of other a handful of other quarterbacks before Matt Ryan.

854
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: But like Matt Ryan on third and four, I don't

855
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: know Matt Ryan on third and six, like he just right,

856
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: he just you totally trust him, he he. I don't

857
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: know if there's not many better than him in that position.

858
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: Bell can still have a lot of work to do.

859
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: The dig out from this because you get in this NFC,

860
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: you get off to this start where the Redskins can

861
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: win this division. Their NFC is still but they're one

862
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: of a few teams that you remind you every year

863
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: you get these playoff teams that you realize, Oh, I

864
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: don't believe in this team at all, old in the

865
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: terms of their ultimate fate at all. Well, the Redskins

866
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: can't come from behind. They don't have the firepower to

867
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: do it. Um and they got behind seven in this game,

868
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: so that was never going to be a recipe for

869
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: them to come back. Mark the Falcons are a Super

870
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Bowl picks, So we're okay, we're climbing back in. Everything's okay,

871
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: get Deon. Deon Jones is eligible to come back in

872
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: two weeks. They're defensive. See what's happening here. Keep an

873
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: eye on uh Maurice Harris, who is a big part

874
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: of that Washington offense. Here ten receptions on twelve targets

875
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: for UH. And Adrian Peterson is having kind of a

876
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: weird statistical season where he either has a really big game,

877
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: like a vintage game, or it's these type of games

878
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: where it's like nine for seventeen. Yeah, he doesn't play

879
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: when they get down, but it doesn't help to like

880
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: half throw offensive line exited the field. That that's the thing.

881
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: Like when they've lost, I'm thinking the Saints game, the

882
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: Colts game, the Colts game, and then this one. It's

883
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: like they look so bad when they lose. That just

884
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: makes me think, ultimately, you're kind of a middle of

885
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: the road team, and the Eagles have to be home

886
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: watching this one, thinking, come to Mama, the Eagles can

887
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: just get their act together. I don't know if a

888
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: mom would treat her child at what come to Mama,

889
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: but if it were a mother child relationship, there will

890
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: be more. That's this sounds wrong, ambitious this offense. There's

891
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: a chance to get really healthy next week they play

892
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: the Bucks. That's good, all right. Let's move on third

893
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: down three for Peter Man. He's got it back to

894
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: his left, three receivers to the right, head upt it

895
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: out of the flection. Leonard Flodd hendd touchdown Bears number

896
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: two today. Jeff Joni act w B B M with

897
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: the call. The Chicago Bears intercepted three Nathan Peterman passes,

898
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: including that Leonard Floyd pick six. The Team of a

899
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: T L became the latest team to steam roll the Bills.

900
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: Final score forty one nine in Orchard Park Lot. Uh

901
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: those poor people mark The Bills have reached quasi by

902
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: status for teams fortunate enough to have them on the schedule.

903
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, especially when when Nathan Peterman is listed as

904
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: the starter and you're a defensive player on the other team.

905
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: You dial up everyone you've ever met, every ex girlfriend,

906
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: every family member, and say turn this on because I'm

907
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: gonna score some points. I mean, the mystery people in

908
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: our love lives that you have to get for the

909
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: Triple Stars all. I mean, if you knew that m

910
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: R Biskuy was gonna throw for a hund in thirty

911
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: five yards and throw a pick, no one's gonna run

912
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: for more than forty seven for Chicago, no one's gonna

913
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: count for more than fifty yards to the air. You

914
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: think Buffalo would have a shot. The final scores forty

915
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: one to nine because of two pick sixes and endless turnovers.

916
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Buffalo is unwatchable, and I feel bad for

917
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: Bills chance they cannot get out of their own way

918
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 1: on offense, and and it does not help that every

919
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: week we have a different terrible quarterback starting. There's no chemistry,

920
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: no flow with anyone in that attack. And games started

921
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: by quarterbacks other than other than Josh Allen, the Bills

922
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: have have one touchdown on offense, and their offenses allowed

923
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: four touchdown with their historically bad and we know negative,

924
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: they're negative. They should just punted on first down they

925
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: would be doing better and and that they clearly the

926
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Bears listened uh to this podcast because they sat Khalil

927
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: Mack again and they forced four takeaways. Absolutely what happened

928
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: because they almost played him last week, Like whoa whaha,

929
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: the old SUSA is making sense over here. Four takeaways

930
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: and sixty four yards on offense. That's what all these

931
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: teams got to do. Rest anybody you're worried about, because

932
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: the Bills just do not have the ability to score points.

933
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: And I cannot believe they have two wins. I gotta

934
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: say it is crazy because you look at the I

935
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: was thinking, well, if nothing else, that's gonna be a

936
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: good test for Mitchell Robinsky on the road against a

937
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: tough defense. Maybe, you know, let's see some progress from

938
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: the offense. And yet I don't. I don't think you

939
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: can really bang them for only getting eleven first downs

940
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: in a hundred and ninety yards When you win forty

941
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: one to nine, It's like, what's the difference, But it's

942
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: still it's it jumps off the page that that the

943
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: offense didn't move, didn't need to move the ball at all.

944
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: This is a good defense, though, it's just they're just

945
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: you can't get their offense came. I can't. I would

946
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: love to have the research to check, like how many

947
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: teams have gained under two hundred yards and won a

948
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: game by more than thirty points. People are worried that

949
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: we're we've lost that loving feeling for the team of

950
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: a t L. This is a playoff team. I believe

951
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to keep all you mean, like me and

952
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: Dan and yeah, basically most of the vast majority of

953
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: plot listeners seem to think that we don't. We're not

954
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: as excited about this team. They have a couple of

955
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: high impact losses, are high profile losses this season. I

956
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: want to see a dramatic win where they really kind

957
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: of show you that's fair, what their ceiling is. But

958
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: in the meantime, they're five and three, and that's a

959
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: good place to be. They've already won almost you know,

960
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: six wins is the most wins they've had since two

961
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, so you're one away from that already. And

962
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: poor Bills fans, they're they're having a great time. They're

963
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: throwing themselves to their tables. They're eating rat Ware's in

964
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: the parking lot. It's zero zero to the first quarter, like, oh,

965
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: maybe we could steal this game. Halftime twenty eight nothing

966
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: the Bears. Next four games, they have the reeling Lions

967
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: twice in the Giants once. Uh, that's good. Then the Rams,

968
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: bye bye. That's let's move on. Darnold Batsnapp and they

969
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: handles it, gets the down, throws a Baker down the sideline.

970
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: He got free, touched alred Rome. Baker with them for

971
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: that one. Jimmy Cephalo, the rest of the Dolphins radio

972
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: network having a gay old time Rookie linebacker Jerome Baker

973
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: picked off Sam Donald took it to the house. The

974
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: game settling score UH Dolphins thirteen six win over the

975
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: regressing New York Jets, the dreaded Fish Sweeden their division

976
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: uh foes, and somehow, almost impossibly, they'll reach the second

977
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: week in November above five d and in the thick

978
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: of the a f C wild card race. And if

979
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: you're a Dolphins then you're already getting fired up and

980
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: you're sending off critical tweets at the old Zuser. Well,

981
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't watch the game, because the Jets are

982
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: a total travesty right now. And he's still you know,

983
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: won by seven points in a game where you scored thirteen.

984
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: So it's I think the Dolphins are very fortunate that

985
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: to have the record they have right now. Uh. And

986
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: they were also that a defense that was under siege

987
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks. Uh, they had a good,

988
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: get healthy opponent because the Jets are completely lost on offense.

989
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: They actually got back Robbie Anderson and Quincy Innua uh

990
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: in the lineup from injuries. But the offense has now

991
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: gotten to the point and it's regress to the point

992
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: and Sam Donald has regressed and really hit a rookie

993
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: wall here where it doesn't matter because there's just there's

994
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: an issue. There's there's something broken here now with the

995
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: Jets on offense and they are a pitiful watch. And

996
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: I just don't know what what to make. You know what, Keith,

997
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: you tell us about it? His name is Keith. You

998
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: don't doubt about it. He's a big Jets man. What

999
00:50:53,400 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: does he go to does he go today? Donald really

1000
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: should have thrown about seven in deceptions today just at

1001
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins dropped the others. Uh. The offensive coordinator Bates,

1002
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't know where his mind is at. Uh, the

1003
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: play calling that he has, and the fact that the

1004
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: head coach was sleeping on the sidelines once again when

1005
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: their center couldn't in the shotgun position, could not give

1006
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: a decent snap to Donald all day, even after he

1007
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: threw it over his head. It's still he did not

1008
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: pull the guy. And yeah, I agree, the guy had

1009
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: an injured finger, dislocated finger, and I feel bad for that,

1010
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: But if the guy can't perform, you gotta pull him.

1011
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: Disgraceful of performance by the Jet offense today and no

1012
00:51:54,840 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: adjustments at halftime offensively terrible. Yeah, there it is Spencier

1013
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: long as the Jets center. It's been a subplot around

1014
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: uh for Jets fans that this guy has been terrible snaps.

1015
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: He has an injured finger and it got to the

1016
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: point where he had to be benched in this game.

1017
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: So that's not helping. But Donald's taken a big step back.

1018
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: They have thirty three points scored in their and their

1019
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: last three games, all losses. They had zero plays in

1020
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: the red zone today against against the Dolphins. Of defense. Again, guys,

1021
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: remember the last time we saw the Dolphins defense against

1022
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: the Texans, they were the disgrace. So that tells you

1023
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: how far off this team is right now. Uh, if

1024
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: somebody else wants to get excited about the Dolphins, please do.

1025
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't know when Ryan's Handhill's coming back. Brock Oswiler again,

1026
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: is just he listen, He's got some ws for them.

1027
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: But on a day that Dolphins should be feeling good,

1028
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: both tackles got injured, and after the game, one of

1029
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: their nucleus players on defense, for Shot Jones, it came

1030
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: out that he pulled himself from the game, basically benched

1031
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: himself and some Almanda Sagara of the Miami Herald had

1032
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: one source that basically said, if he doesn't want to

1033
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: play effort, that at why I feel for Dolphins fans

1034
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: because this team for so long, even when they get wins,

1035
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: it's it's so rarely inspiring. They're so rarely long term hope,

1036
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: here's here's the game you want to go to five

1037
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: and four. You have that anonymous source. You also have

1038
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: offensive players privately sharing their frustrations with brock Oswiler. On offense,

1039
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: they had seven first downs. I mean, they won a

1040
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: game with seven first downs and a hundred and sixty

1041
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: eight total yards, and basically it was just the Dolphins

1042
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 1: defense essentially scored enough to for to win the game.

1043
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: And so even when you're winning the game, it's just like, well,

1044
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: that's Wilder made the Jets pass rutch look good, which

1045
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: tells you something. So he is no good. Rosa Jones,

1046
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: by the way, is a guy that's been around for

1047
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: a while there. He's been their starting safety since he

1048
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: is a core guy on that defense. For him, yeah,

1049
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: he's one of their best defensive players. For him to

1050
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: pull himself out of the lineup and gaze was that

1051
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: after the game. I don't know what I have to

1052
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: find out about it. I'd I think Gas is in deep,

1053
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: deep trouble regardless of how the seas shouldn't be happening

1054
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: to five and four teams four and one at home.

1055
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, you don't go into Miami and get a

1056
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: win this year. It's not gonna be a hundred degrees

1057
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: with a hundred percent of humidity all year. There dan

1058
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: one quick thing like, okay, do you view this is

1059
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Speaker 1: like a Mitch Robinski stuck into John Fox last year

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00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears type of exactly how I see it, Mark Sessler,

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00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: I think that it was kind of what I was

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00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: worried could happen this year. Is I think it's uh,

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00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles. I don't think it's fired tomorrow. But I

1064
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: don't think Todd Bowles. We're getting to the point where

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00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: it's almost definite he's done and the offensive coordinator is

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00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: not part of the future. This is not Jim Bob

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00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Cooter sticking around when the new coach gets hired. So

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Speaker 1: it's just a matter of don't get hurt and and

1069
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: hopefully his confidence doesn't get shot. Here. I'm officially worried

1070
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: about Donald's rookie season before we get to Sunday Night.

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Speaker 1: not a man that goes to the doctor a lot. No,

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Speaker 1: but apparently I should have considering some of the things

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1092
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Speaker 1: which takes us to Sunday Night Football wide open. Well,

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00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: there's two guys who are there, but it's Shosh Courton

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00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: the second guy. Touchdown praise a snaky little devil. Oh yes,

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00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: Chris collins Worth there and also Al Michael's of course

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00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: with the call. Sunday Night Football ends with a thirty

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00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: one seventeen win for the New England Patriots, who score

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00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: fourteen unanswered points in the final period. Uh to improve

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00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: to seven and two, a damaging loss for the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers, who fall to three four and one. A game, Greg,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna start with you, because you're very happy

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00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: man tonight. A game that turned on the first play

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: of the first quarter or the fourth quarter. It is seventeen.

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00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: All the Packers are driving, Aaron Jones gets the ball,

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00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: costs it up, the Packers unable to re cover, the

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00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: Pats pick it up, and from there it was all

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00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: New England. Larry Guy making a play, Trey Flowers making plays,

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00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: Adrian Clayborne making a play. They called Jack just the guy.

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00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: They he's been great that if you had told me,

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00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, when the Packers tied it up seventeen all

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00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: it's what midway through the second quarter, that they wouldn't

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00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: score another point the other night the rest of the night,

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00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: I would have been stunned. And this win to me

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00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: is the most meaningful of the Patriots season, just because

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00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: they did it without Gronk, they did it without Sonny Michelle.

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00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: You have Cordurel Patterson in the backfield, you have the

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00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: defense really holding up their end of the bargain, and

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00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: it just felt like kind of one of those old

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00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: School Patriots types of games that makes you think that, okay,

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Speaker 1: they can go they can go on a run this

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00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: year West This was embarrassing for the Packers. How do

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00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: you lose to that team. They're running Philip Door setting

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen out there, Your wide receivers are running back.

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Speaker 1: No Gronk, no Sonny Michelle. This is just embarrassing for

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Speaker 1: the Packers. They had so much better personnel on the

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00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: field and the game and they got out coached. I

1127
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: thought the Aaron Jones fumble reminded me of the Adam

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00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: Feeling fumble from these Saints Vikings game, and we could

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00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: go where nothing was the same after because right after

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00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: that the Patriots, who had been you could they were

1131
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: hedged in on offense, Suddenly they get into trick play territory.

1132
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: Edelman throws the ball to James White, who sets up

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00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: the next touchdown. The Packers come out on the next drive,

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00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: go a quick three and out with an awful sack

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Speaker 1: on Rogers that had included a helmet to helmet hit,

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00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: and then bang, game over. Patriots scored to Josh Gordon

1137
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: next drive. Packers just lost to a team who's best

1138
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: player is a scap back I mean, first of all,

1139
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: their best players, Tom Brady. Tom Brady is not playing

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: that well. He's not playing as well as as is

1141
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: m v P level. He is playing plenty well. Judge

1142
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: at quarterback. In this game, Rodgers made more plays, but

1143
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: ultimately it was held. Rogers was held to six yards

1144
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: for attempt Who look at that the first lock off

1145
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: of the season. If you're wondering why there's a little

1146
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: heat between the scientists right now, Greg locks up the Patriots.

1147
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: It's gets the double. West counted on the Packers, and

1148
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: they did. They came up small West for you that

1149
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: they really did. They came up small. The Reps had

1150
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: had a hand. Yes, are you saying Operation pig Ponies

1151
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: in in play here? That running into the kicker car

1152
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: give me didn't make it difference. Adrian Claiborne's helmet, the

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00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: helmet hit on on Rogers. Give me a break, and

1154
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: how about score score some points when you get no doubt?

1155
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: The Packers should be embarrassed that they only scored seventeen points.

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00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, also, you know, Chris should be a little

1157
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: embarrassed at least for making a speech like it was,

1158
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 1: you know, Gettysburg address or something when the Packers had

1159
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: stopped the Patriots on the goal goal. Should be embarrassed.

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00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: You said that was going to change their season. This

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00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: isn't a debate, it's a call to arms, Greg, American

1162
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: needs the Packers to win. If you're not aware of

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00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: what West said, this is what he said. You're feeling

1164
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: right now rooting against the Patriots, and it's fun. I

1165
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: probably should have started this years ago. We all know

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00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: that Belichick lost it. He's passed his problem ever since

1167
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: the Malcolm Butler benching and that you just see him

1168
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down and get the nine.

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01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: Games are built on that, seasons are built on. Packers

1170
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: has momentum. America needs Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs, and

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01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna get them. With a win in this game.

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01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna build all that and life will be ascended

1173
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers. It went all wrong with

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01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: that was from pariscope. That was I mean, I was

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01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: in character, Greg, Well, you also did that off camera

1176
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: right before that happened this the same time, spinning character

1177
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: this whole game, and the Packers let me down. They

1178
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: really did. They killed you here and and you're right

1179
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: with gron not playing Brady not sharp. At one point

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01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 1: he had in completions on sixth straight passes, seven out

1181
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: of eight. And we talked about this leading into this game,

1182
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 1: that this has not been a pristine Tom Brady year.

1183
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, mark here we

1184
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: are seven and two. The Patriots obviously have the AFC

1185
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: East on lockdown, their closest competitor as the Dolphins, and

1186
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: they are right in the mix again to get the

1187
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: bye and a big win over an NFC team. They're

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01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: more than in the X They're just gonna do it.

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01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. I mean, we will see, we will.

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01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: We will sit here for the next seven or eight

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01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: or nine weeks while we see. How come on the

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01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: one that's in like, not a bad mood. I should

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01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: like My one thing is into Green Bay's offense. Get

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01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: it done for once. I'm tired of hearing about the

1195
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: potential you. This is a tough stretch, the Rams and

1196
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots. No shame in losing to both of these teams.

1197
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: But you are three four and one, and you're in

1198
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 1: a hole right now, and there are three or four

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Speaker 1: teams that are clearly better than you in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: You're right before we taket them for GLORI and I

1201
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: think they're they're far from out of it at three

1202
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: four and one, and you're you're right. But if you're

1203
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: a Packers fan, you do want to you do want

1204
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: those games where, hey, you're coaching staff breaks out the

1205
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: trick plays at seventeen you know what I mean, You're

1206
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: coaching staff comes up with a guy like Cardorrel Patterson

1207
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: uh running huge plays for that that team that the

1208
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: Patriots ran those two and they were both kind into

1209
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: trick plays, but especially the first one to James White

1210
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: because they needed it. Like they have an uncanny especially

1211
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, has an uncanny ability for breaking out those

1212
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: plays when nothing is going right and and they usually

1213
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: work and at work tonight. And I'll just say this,

1214
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: and Mark, we talked about this off Mike before while

1215
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: the game was going on. Sometimes it might feel like

1216
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: excuses get made on behalf of Aaron Rodgers when you

1217
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: look at how the Packers really have not gotten the

1218
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: job done in the last eight years or so since

1219
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl appearance. But it does get frustrating game

1220
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 1: after game, year after year. And we'll use the last

1221
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: two weeks for as an example here. Uh. Last week

1222
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: it was time Montgommery's silly decision to run the ball

1223
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: out of the end zone lad to a fumble cost

1224
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers a chance to play hero ball. This week's

1225
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones just not fundamentally sound, not covering up the ball. Uh,

1226
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: it leads to the turnover, puts them down, and it

1227
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: just you just want to see Rogers surrounded by guys

1228
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: that sack up and get the job done. And it

1229
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: just more often than not, I find I find that

1230
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: Rogers is fighting an uphill battle against these uppershl on

1231
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: team because the rest of the team doesn't come to play.

1232
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: And to your point, they've given up thirty one thirty

1233
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: one points on defense over the last four weeks. I

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01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: would say this though, it's like it's a it's a

1235
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: study in one organization that no matter who they have

1236
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: to put out there, does not make these key mistakes,

1237
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: and they find a way to get into good situations

1238
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And you can't ask you and

1239
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: Rogers to bail you out week after right, And I

1240
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: misspoke earlier that the Packers did score in the second half.

1241
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: They had a touchdown in the second half, but Rogers.

1242
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: He he has a high bar that he needs to

1243
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: play too, and you have to take advantage. This is

1244
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: not a great Patriots defense. You get the ball late

1245
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: in the first half, you kind of expect Rogers to

1246
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: go down and score points there. He doesn't do it.

1247
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: They make that goal line stand and you're thinking, okay,

1248
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: here we go Packers offense, like, let's get something going.

1249
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: They go three and out and kick the ball right back.

1250
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: So there's different moments about where he's allowed to have

1251
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: some touchdown drives at the end of the game, and

1252
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: he came up small there right and and he made

1253
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: If you just made the best five throws of the game,

1254
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: he probably made him. So that's why it's it's frustrating

1255
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: to watch when he can do so many spectacular things.

1256
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: But but the cohesiveness that Brady and McDaniels have. No

1257
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: one is ever doubting the technical artistry and all this

1258
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: stuff that separates Aaron Rodgers. But part of it is

1259
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: just it's not just the quarterback, it's the whole team.

1260
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: And the Packers are a disappointing team in the Mike

1261
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: McCarthy era for how little they've achieved with how much

1262
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: potential they've had and and my last thought is it

1263
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: is hyper as a Jets fan is someone that's done

1264
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, it's hyper annoying that Josh Gordon is

1265
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: a star for the Patriots. You're not the only one annoyed.

1266
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, let's get over to let

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Speaker 1: we have to get over to this point. But it's

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Speaker 1: like again, it feels it feels untoward because it's the Browns,

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Speaker 1: but that this was a we talked about fatal flaw

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Speaker 1: type things. They needed a playmaker in the worst way,

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Speaker 1: and one fell into the left for a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 1: This guy is taking their offense to another level. He

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Speaker 1: he was the most you're talking about the most valuable

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Speaker 1: player to me. His presents there tonight. They could not

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Speaker 1: have lived without without Gronk, without much of a running game.

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Speaker 1: They need Gordon to start making those one on one

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Speaker 1: plays and he is. Now. I mean, you're right, but

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Speaker 1: the rest of the league could have given up a

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick for him. So it's not all just

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Speaker 1: falling into your lap. It's it's having Brady Bell checking

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Speaker 1: Nick Daniels, having a place where he can go and thrive,

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Speaker 1: and it's making that trade. It's the competitive advantage of

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Speaker 1: being Bill Belichick with the last twenty years give him

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Speaker 1: so much leeway to make these kinds of moves because

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Speaker 1: he's playing with house money. All right, there you go.

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Speaker 1: So thirty one seventeen Patriots beat the Packers. That is

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Speaker 1: our week nine recap. One more game to play on

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Speaker 1: Monday that will be the Cowboys and Titans from Gerald World.

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Speaker 1: Will have that recap on our Tuesday Twitter show, which

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Speaker 1: you could check out at one thirty Pacific, four thirty eastern,

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Speaker 1: nine thirty in the UK, and the next audio show

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Speaker 1: will be on Wednesday. Uh so make sure you check

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Speaker 1: all that out. Thank you to everyone for listening. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis signing off four Quiet Store, The Mailman,

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Speaker 1: The Old Boss, and the Loose Cannon Ricky Hollywood behind

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Speaker 1: the Glass Deal Tuesday, m