WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Rookie Reactions 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:08.039 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:09.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:14.880 Cowboys. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:19.720 This he is Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.960 Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:32.840 Street Second dot Pat Touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.800 Patrick Wilker, Nick Harris and Kyle Yeoman's. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.440 It's a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.920 Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco and 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.800 the SWBC Studios, the brand new. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.400 SWBC Studios inside the Star. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.000 As we are back from training camp and we are 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.840 getting gearing up for the second leg of train here 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:02.960 at the Star in Fristco and then also for the 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.280 regular season with Isaiah stand Back, Nick Harris, John Matchoda, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:07.160 I'm Kyle Yeoman's. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:08.240 The entire crew is here. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.840 And good thing because we've got some new digs to 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:11.319 talk about. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.639 Gentlemen, Yeah, yeah, new indeed. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.480 How do you like it? I love it? I love it. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:17.480 We were talking about it earlier about how every show 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:18.880 just kind of has a different feel to it, which 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:19.720 I really appreciate. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.320 That's that's that's big time to whoever designed it. 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.399 I guess John, you liked the last studio, but I. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.680 Mean I liked the last ye this is better, but 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.160 I mean the last studio. I thought it was really 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.000 nice too, you know. I mean, if you guys seen 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.160 how plain and boring my place was, Like there's just 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.160 only a couple of pictures on the wall, like no 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.560 plants or anything. I mean, it just looks like you 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.440 can really just do a simple move in and out. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.600 So to see all this stuff and how quickly. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.160 They changed everything, like, yeah, it's it's amazing, it's really nice. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.520 Yeah, we just got up, went to training camp, came 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:51.760 back and this is what it looked like. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:53.760 I love it. I love it, man, this is yeah, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:54.800 this is a good vibe. It's a good vibe. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.920 I got TV's all over the plays cameras, high diff 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.440 a little Brandon on the wall, Zach Martin on the wall. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.800 I wonder when that was done, but it looks good. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.960 I always wonder, like you makes these things, like is 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.520 this like who's making? Like is that your job full time? 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.160 Do people just make sets? Are there enough? Do enough 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.760 people need sets that your full time job is to 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.800 make sets? Because what else would you do? I mean, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.040 I don't know how making this table be similar to 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.640 me making like a table for someone's house or something 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.040 like that. Yeah, I always wonder, like I always thought 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.120 about that on Sports Center because Sports Center always you know, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:28.760 trying to switch stuff up and things like them, like 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:29.440 who's doing this? 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:30.919 Is that your full time job? 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.079 I think it is a full time job for for 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.000 certain design companies. But like you said, I mean, you're 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.480 not just gonna put this in your your house, Like 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:39.960 this isn't going to be in your dining room. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:41.240 And hey, where's the old one? 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.720 See that's the thing I hear. They're taking bids on 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:44.320 the old one. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:45.320 So if you want to try on. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.240 It, it's in the it's in the other room. What's 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:48.880 in the storage? You can take some bids on it. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:49.519 Do you determine? 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.360 It's a great question, it's a great question. 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:54.000 Is a standard? 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.280 I don't know what is standard? What would you what 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:58.560 would you call standard? 0:02:58.760 --> 0:02:59.880 We have to make sure Nate fit. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:05.480 It's got to be Nate old Nate just in case, oh, 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.760 just a case. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.600 All right, let's get into it. Preseason Game number two 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.639 is in the books, twenty two to fourteen. The Cowboys 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.959 fall to Seattle on Saturday. Isaiah, it was a pleasure 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:18.800 being in the booth with you for the last two games. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.480 You're gonna kill it this week because I'll be not 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.760 in the booth. We'll have some high school football to 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.240 deal with, so and foot the body. Michael Irvin will 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:27.960 come and replace me. So he'll do a great job. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.120 I guess Michael Irvin he played it back in the 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:31.840 day at some point. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.720 So, but yeah, Seattle takes down Dallas. There was a 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:36.400 lot to learn. 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.520 I think in that game, John, whenever you go back 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.880 and you look at the film, there was a lot 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.240 going on. There was a lot going on both sides 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.160 of the football. Will get to the injuries in a 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:47.960 couple moments, but what were your overall takes? 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.080 So I think by this point we should be used 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.520 to the fact that, Okay, Jalen Tolbert has made this jump, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.720 but there's still always just I don't know, man, These 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.800 last couple of weeks, I've just I'm impressed, And I 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.560 think it goes back to kind of it's all about 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.960 your perception. What were you expecting of the player? And 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.600 maybe my expectations were too low, But from what I've 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.480 seen from him and he carried it over into the 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.240 Seattle game, Like I kind of just feel like he's 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.720 he's ready to contribute. Like it's not can he win 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.440 the number four job, like if they need him on 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.440 a Sunday. I feel pretty confident in what they have 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.320 in him and the everything that has stood out to 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.520 me this entire time about Jalen Tolbert. Isaiah would obviously 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.400 know it's a lot better than I would, but just 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.760 the fact that from practice to games whatever, it's not 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.280 like he's always playing with the same quarterback either, you know, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.760 like Ceedee Lamb's probably not going to catch many passes 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.120 from anybody other than Dak Prescott, and whether it's game, practice, whatever, 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.640 Like I feel like Tolbert, you know, I mean, I've 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.440 seen him make some great grabs out at camp from 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.400 Will Greer and then he plays with Cooper Rush and 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.600 seems like everything clicks there. So let's see how it 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.600 goes when he's with Dak. But I've been very impressed 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:51.360 with Jalen Tolbert. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:53.720 What did you think about him? Tolbert did a good job. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.520 I think he's been relatively consistent all training camp all 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.360 the way through the preseason, So I mean He's definitely 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.040 showing up. He's becoming a guy that everybody really hoped 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.960 he would have been last year. Sometimes it takes a 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.160 little bit more time for some guys, but either way, 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.760 the light bulbs come on and his led is not halogen, 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.200 so he's doing He's shining bright like a diamond. 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.320 Do you think it would be the same thing if 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.440 for him, if let's say they stayed with Kellen Moore 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.120 and it was the same offenses, or do you think 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.120 that this offense helps him acclimate quicker or do you 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:22.920 think it's all in just him that hey, he put 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.080 the work in, it wouldn't matter. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.040 I mean, that's a good question. I don't think any 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.080 of us can really put our finger on it. I 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:32.360 think that he definitely has grown in his confidence. His 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:36.440 offseason approach seemingly seemed different. He came in in better shape. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.640 It looked like he's ready for camp. But then I 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.560 think a lot of these shorter routes kind of play 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.200 to his favor. Kellen Moore, a lot of majority of 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.120 his routes were kind of pushed down the field. That's 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.000 not to say that Jaya intober I can't run routes 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.640 down the field. I just think that he's able with 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.720 his frame to win on these slant routes, and you 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.080 saw him kind of set it up and even in 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.200 the first quarter, you know, set guy outside come across 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.479 his face and right, being able to make a good, solid, 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.400 strong catch at the point of you know, high point 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:02.960 the ball. All those type of things are really working 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.880 in his favor. So that's going to obviously benefit him 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.320 his positioning to be able to be the fourth guy 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.960 on this roster. And we know that the fourth guy 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.360 is going to get some tick on this team, so 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.640 you know he's putting. He's definitely done a great job 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:17.560 of positioning himself. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.160 I will say just having a new system and being 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.760 able to come into this new year with a new system, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.200 it allows for a complete refresh for him, and I 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.800 think it benefited him arguably more than anybody coming into 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.240 their second year, just because he's allowed to regain that 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.600 confidence in a completely new system. He's allowed to pick 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.080 up those things and kind of just throw away everything 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.640 that happened last year, and I think he's been able 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.840 to do that really well. The confidence is stacking each 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:44.719 and every day. We see it every time he hits 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.800 the field, and you were talking about just kind of 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.000 a developed routree he's starting to have, which is really 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.440 fun in this offense because he can do the short stuff, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.039 he can do the stuff downfield as well. We've seen 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.440 that through the two preseason games. I think he had 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.560 a pass in a first quarter on Saturday where it 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.160 was downfield on the side line just got physical with 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:05.159 this guy. It shook off DPI. Wasn't OPI this time? 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:06.880 And I asked him Aftuere. I was like, did you 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.000 think it was maybe Opi either throwing it on you again? 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.640 And he was like, Nah, it couldn't have been that time. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.080 But it was that Michael Jackson, who that is a 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.240 player that Salik is a guy that's not going to 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:16.400 be on a roster. You know, That's the thing so 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.400 often in preseason people bet, oh, but who was he 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.679 doing against? But I mean Michael Jackson is a pretty 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:21.040 good corner. 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.160 Absolutely, he's probably going to start for Seattle, opposite of 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.000 Tarik Wohlan, who was of course a pro bowler last 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.080 year as a rookie. So I think you have options 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.760 with Jalen Tolbert. This is a rankum that's on Dallas 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.720 Cowboys dot Com. If you didn't check it out already. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.760 It was really well done by the entire team rank 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.760 them selecting all Oxnar teams as camp ends at least 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.960 camp on the Oxnard on the West Coast. Brandon Cooks 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.440 was number four, so that was the top wide receiver mentioned. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.880 Ceedee Lamb was number six and Jayalen Tolbert was right 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:51.920 behind him at number seven. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:53.920 Ceedee Lamb has made a name. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.000 For himself in Oxnard the last couple of years, and 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.080 he's made a name for himself for other reasons too, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:02.200 but the fact that he's always been the number one 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.200 receiver to watch and the fact that Jalen Tolbert is 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.360 right up there snug next to him because of his 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.880 performance and what he did on the West Coast, I 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.240 think is a huge plus for this offense because it's 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.200 almost like adding if he can continue this, it's adding 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.640 a receiver in the offseason that you didn't have last year, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.160 adding another weapon that you didn't have last year, and it. 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.320 Just opens up the possibilities across the board. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.760 I do have a question, do you think he's closer? 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.120 And I know it's early. He needs to prove it 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:26.760 in the regular season. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:27.360 Don't get me wrong. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.000 But do you think he's closer to pushing Michael Gallup 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:31.600 than someone is to push him at this point? 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:36.000 Oh, talking about for a wide receiver three Yeah, if. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.400 You take the paycheck out of it, yeah, it makes sense. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:39.400 That makes sense for sure. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:40.040 Yeah. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.040 But I mean even without the paycheck involved, you're still 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.120 gonna get targets because it's game time. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.360 You might get fed targets. It's not how it works. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.679 Michael Gallup is gonna get the three reps no matter what. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.640 I don't think Dak Prescott is paying Michael Gallup, my dude. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.560 But he's gonna throw the ball. If Jalen Tolbert's open, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:08:59.320 He's gonna. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.040 Get the ball Tobert's gonna be on the field because 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:02.360 four receivers are hardly ever going. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:03.000 To be on the field. 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.160 So Michael Gallup is an rotating guy, and because of 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:06.800 his page trote, he'll he'll be. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.640 On the field, especially with the way this offense likes 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.559 used tight ends. And I've been thinking about that. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.719 You know, Jalen Talbert's had this great camp, He's doing 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.800 so many good things in preseason, but when can we 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.720 see him on the field in the regular season? 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:17.600 How is that gonna work? 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.360 I've just kind of been thinking about that. I'm curious 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:21.880 to see that in Week one how many snaps he 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.040 really gets, but I think it'll be intriguing. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.480 Nevertheless, does it help in the fact that last year, 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.160 whenever they did have the three wide receivers that are 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.719 the so called three wide receivers that you kind of 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:36.360 went with, which was Lamb, Callup and Noah Brown, there 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.000 really wasn't There was a there was a distance gap 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.079 between the three and the four. So now that you 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.520 have a closer four than you did last year, maybe 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.280 there is a better rotation between the two. Michael Gallup 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.640 last year was expected to come back from injury and 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.319 be wide receiver two to see the Lamb. That was 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.280 the expectation for Mike. It didn't live up to that 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.040 expectation because partially I think he rushed back from the injury. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.800 He wasn't completely healthy, and he pushed through it because 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.160 he's a team player and he was trying to be 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:04.240 available for his squad. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.760 But now there aren't those expectations for Michael Gallup. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.800 The paycheck says one thing, no doubt, but Jalen Tolbert 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.559 has a top one hundred tag on him as well, 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.840 he was a third round pick. There's a pride factor 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.760 in that as well. He's gonna get opportunities just as 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.160 much as Michael Gallup does. I understand there's a paycheck, 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.360 but there's also draft stock, and there's a pride that 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:24.880 goes back and forth between the two of them. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.080 I think he's gonna see a significant rotation. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:27.439 Now. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.000 Is he expected to be a one thousand yard receiver. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:31.679 Is he going to be on the field as a starter. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.320 Probably not. He's gonna have to do it in rotation. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.480 But John, I think whenever you look at Jalen Tolbert, 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.920 he's earned that rotation just based off of the way 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.319 that he's practiced and the way that he's played in 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:43.800 these two preseason games already. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.120 Yeah, I just feel like there's always gonna be injuries 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.280 in football. And you know, you mentioned getting to Cedric 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.800 will or Noah Brown, Cedric Wilson. There's just been guys 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.600 over the years where, yeah, maybe right off the start 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.360 of the season you don't necessarily think that you're gonna 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.240 get a lot from them, but just the way the 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.400 position is played and how physical the game is, you 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.120 just never know when something's going to happen, and then 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.120 you have to be called on immediately to step in. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.880 So in a way, I mean, if he doesn't play 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.040 a ton this season, maybe it's a good sign for 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.000 the Cowboys that because that meant all your top three 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.079 receivers performed and they all stayed healthy. But that's also 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.160 you also got to be a realistic I mean, it's 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.839 a long season and injuries happened. And when I say 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.319 injuries too, I don't even mean necessarily the oh this 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.320 guy tore an ACL he's up for these I'm talking 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.079 about in the middle of a game, you know, a 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:30.880 guy twists his knee something, he has to come out, 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.320 like for a few players something. Jalen Tolbert is going 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:34.839 to have to step in right away, and from what 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.800 we've seen, he looks like he can handle that. Whereas 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.040 last year, I mean, that's why you went out and 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.559 got t Y Hilton because you didn't know if you 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.680 had that next guy that that could kind of step up. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.160 And now they have to feel good about what. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:45.680 They have there. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.559 Now, what about the defensive side of the football. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.320 Because the defense, of course you're not seeing any starters Isaiah, 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.319 But what did you see on Saturday against Seattle, and 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.160 what were some of the things that you took away 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:57.679 from that one. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.439 I feel as if the defensive line was doing a 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.600 good job of getting up the field, but I don't 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.000 think there was a lot of gap discipline there in 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.679 the game. Obviously with their quarterback being able to take 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.920 off a bunch, uh so there are some some holes 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.720 there that they have to shure up. Obviously, we'll get 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.200 to the injury stuff. The secondary. You know Jyye Thomas, 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.640 He's had one heck of a preseason. I mean, even 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.160 without the interception, that dude is flying around even towards 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:27.920 the end of the game. I'm I was watching him 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.079 on places where nobody's even looking at him, and I'm like, 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.320 this dude is playing still with a ton of energy left. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.880 So I'm super proud of him and what he's been 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.160 able to produce in the in the preseason. The young secondary, 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.920 you know, Eric Scott, juniors of the world. Those guys 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.719 still have a lot to learn, seemingly about just awareness, 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.439 kind of just appropriate reception, just being aware where where 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.280 they're at in space. There's a lot of opportunities I 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.480 think we saw in the game where they were unaware 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.079 of where the ball was at and those are things 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.520 that you know that you learn right you see it 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.280 on film, you experience it, you see it on film. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.200 You know our hairs coaches them up and then they're 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.040 ten times better the next couple opportunities. But in terms 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.520 of what we've seen so far, I think awareness, spatial 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.880 awareness is important. I discipline is something that also needs 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.400 to be shared up on. But when you're in that position, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.640 you're so locked in as a young player. You're so 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.840 locked in even a draft PI because you're not guaranteed 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.280 on this roster, on that side of the ball, that 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.439 you're going to be retained. You're you're locked in on 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.200 your assignment. And sometimes when you're so intent on trying 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.760 to do your assignment, you forget some of the other 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.400 tangible things that you that also are required, other attributes 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.040 that are require for you to be a holistic player. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.079 And that's really the battle for young guys in the preseason. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.839 And it's frustrating because it's like, oh, I did this 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.160 dog and I forgot about this, you know, and those 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.000 one little things, you know, I did a good job. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:45.640 I got my hand on them at the line of scrimmage. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.120 I shadowed to them I got my hand on the hip. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:48.839 I stayed with him the whole route, but shoot, I 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.719 forgot to turn around and find a ball and there's 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.719 a completion right, and it's like the ultimate goal was 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.079 still achieved by the by the offensive player because you 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:57.720 missed that one little check box. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.760 So overall, they're looking relatively good. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.160 Just kind of just tighten up some things with some 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.040 of the younger guys, looking forward to seeing the ones 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.000 obviously here really in a couple of weeks putting an 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.440 owl out there. But in terms of these guys, they're 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.280 coming along as you would expect in a preseason. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:13.800 I think it's olf. I don't think I just want 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:14.559 to add on that real quick. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.560 Is just I think it's funny how you mentioned about 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.360 guys potentially, like young guys, having nerves, because I think 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.720 a lot of fans would watch these games like it's 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.200 a preseason game, nine o'clock start in Seattle. Like you, 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.680 as a fan, might not take it that serious because 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.200 Dak's not out there and twenty five veterans aren't out there, 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.080 But to these guys, this is everything. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:33.680 This is you know, a little mistake. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.720 I remember you talking about it early in camp when 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.840 we had one of our first shows about how like 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:39.840 one little thing you'll remember for the rest of your 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.760 life if it like so, I think it's easy sometimes 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.440 to kind of if you're a fan and not think 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.040 about it, especially in the second half of some of 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.640 these games, because you're just like, who really, you know. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.280 I was watching the tail end of the game that 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.040 was on right before the Cowboys game on NFL Network 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.880 with the Bears, and it was just dragging on, and 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.640 I'm sitting there as a fan, going just run the 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.760 clock and get this game over with. Nobody cares. But 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.560 these players, the players that are out there, this means 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.000 a lot to them. And so I always think about 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:04.320 that too when people talk like, just get rid of 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.360 the preseason, you don't need the preseason. Yeah, that's fine 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.280 for some of your starters, but like, there's a lot 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.920 of guys that they want these preseason games, and the 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.000 coaching staff wants it so they can evaluate them. 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:16.200 And the preseason's unforgiving in all three phases of the game. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.400 It's unforgiving. I think we saw special teams, the punt, 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.720 the punt that got blocked on Saturday night. You know, 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.640 Rico had this great game, and that's the thing that's 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.200 focused on afterward, you know, So it's unforgiving at times, 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.840 but I wanted to especially highlight Eric Scott talking about 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:33.760 the defensive side of the ball because I feel like 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.120 we saw the highest of what his potential could be, 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.640 and we also saw the first year learning curve that 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.960 he still has to take the highest potential being on 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.920 the very first drive getting two pass breakups on Tyler Lockett. Yes, 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:45.600 I'm saying too, because one of them was definitely out 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.400 of balance, so it's not a completion. So I'm accounting 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.360 for him, and he's probably getting graded out that way 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:50.960 by the staff too, So like if he's gonna get 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.560 graded out that way, then that's how we should treat it. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.960 And then another one that forced a fourth down. Did 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.600 fantastic job against the ones in that first drive, but 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.720 then later later in the first gave Jackson Smith and 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.000 jigbit inside leverage, and if you if you know anything 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.040 about Jackson Smith and Jig, but he's going to take 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.160 advantage of that every single time quick release slant he 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.720 was gone. I will give Eric Scott credit though he 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.760 was able to pick up a ground on him and 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.080