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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Everybody, Welcome into Texas All Access. What a

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Speaker 1: wonderful night it is. John Harrison, Mark Vandermere with you.

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Speaker 1: Good evening, Mark, How are you doing? Getting ready to

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Speaker 1: go back up where both of us attended?

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Speaker 2: Bu be you Brown University for you, Boston University for me.

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Speaker 1: You don't call Brown bu No, we don't. We just

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Speaker 1: called Brown. No, No, b you is Boston University.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And some people say be you for Baylor, So

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Speaker 2: it's always confusing here. I always say Boston University, just

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Speaker 2: to be clear where I went to school. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: went up there and I spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: up there. In the first pro football game I ever

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Speaker 2: went to, wasn't that god forsaken place? I love Boston,

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Speaker 2: but the Patriots not so much. I hate them like poison.

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Speaker 3: You know this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Look, I hate the Colts more than anybody. The

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Speaker 2: Patriots are close and I actually liked them in the

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Speaker 2: eighties when I went to college, when they had the

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Speaker 2: patch Patriots stuff.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna wear that stuff. They're wearing the reds.

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Speaker 2: But I like them before they were a good team,

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Speaker 2: a really good team. Steve Grogan and players like that

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Speaker 2: and John Hannah and when Doug Flutey played there, and

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Speaker 2: that actually inspired me, inspired me to get into talk radio.

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Speaker 2: The Doug flute Steve Brogan, Tony East in that whole

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Speaker 2: Holy Trinity of quarterback controversy they had going on in

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Speaker 2: the mid to late eighties, I was all over that.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get on the air. Made me want

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Speaker 2: to be on the air and talk about sports. So

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Speaker 2: I owe that to them. But and I told you

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Speaker 2: earlier this week, I started my career, you know, like

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Speaker 2: a mile away from that stadium doing a high school game,

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Speaker 2: and I've worked for a radio station for a while

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Speaker 2: that was very close to the stadium. But I hate

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Speaker 2: them and I want them to suffer badly because they've

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Speaker 2: had so much success. And Tom Brady, even though I

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Speaker 2: like him now that he's retired, you know how I

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Speaker 2: feel about these guys, Johnny. Yes, they ended two Texan

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Speaker 2: seasons in that building. Two Texan seasons came to an

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Speaker 2: end because of playoff defeats up there at the hands

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Speaker 2: of Tom Brady in twenty twelve and twenty sixteen. Texans

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Speaker 2: have never won there. He had that Week three game

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Speaker 2: in twenty seven seventeen explosive Houston offense, but still lost

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Speaker 2: the game anyway. Twenty eighteen fumble on the first play

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Speaker 2: from scrimmage for the Texans, My.

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Speaker 3: Goodness, stop me. Yeah, I hate them.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Let's get this one and walk out of there

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Speaker 2: with a much better feeling than even we had in

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Speaker 2: the preseason victory prior to the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 3: So a couple of things stand out to reverse the curse.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Number one, they are wearing the reds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, never faced them wearing the reds the original, not

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Speaker 1: the original, but pat Patriots going to be on the

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Speaker 1: side snapping the football, on the side of the helmet.

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Speaker 3: They're not starting ja Kobe Brissett. That's good.

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Speaker 1: So they're not wearing the uniforms that they've beat us

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Speaker 1: every single time with and they're not starting to Kobe Brissett.

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Speaker 1: So okay, So a couple of things go in our direction.

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Speaker 1: But your story made me think about this. We're talking

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Speaker 1: to Nick about that particular building.

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Speaker 3: And Nick was he didn't hold back.

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Speaker 1: It is not It was not a great building, the

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Speaker 1: Old State, the Old State.

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Speaker 3: It was a dump.

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Speaker 1: So when I was in college, my girlfriend, her dad

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Speaker 1: had season tickets, her family had season tickets to Bruins

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Speaker 1: shared season tickets to Bruins, Red Sox and Celtics shared,

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Speaker 1: so they.

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Speaker 3: Had eighty one tickets.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, half forty one, so they would have forty

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Speaker 1: one one year, forty the next year for Red.

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Speaker 3: Sox, but not Patriots.

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Speaker 1: They had Patriots, and so I asked her, I said, well,

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Speaker 1: why not Patriots? And I swear I got the look

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Speaker 1: I got was are you serious. I basically I was like, like,

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Speaker 1: why we don't hang with those people?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm glad we do with those people.

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Speaker 2: I remember this, the Patriots, okay fan base. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: those are the pickup truck driving people from New Hampshire

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Speaker 2: coming down. And now that's not the Boston wine and cheese.

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Speaker 2: Go to the garden and see Larry Bird or Bobby

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Speaker 2: Orr and the Bruins and later Ray Bork and all

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Speaker 2: the Patriots were I would say they were fourth.

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Speaker 3: They were fourth in the city.

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Speaker 1: They might have been seventh, And I don't know what

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Speaker 1: She heard the words were literally, we don't hang with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's funny how that was. But when they

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Speaker 2: started to win big. Now, even when they went to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and the five got drilled by the Bears. Uh,

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Speaker 2: they went to the super Bowl in what was the

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Speaker 2: year ninety six, ninety seven.

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Speaker 3: Ninety six they lost the Packers. Right, ninety six season

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Speaker 3: they lost to the Packers.

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Speaker 2: No, they were starting to really embrace them then with

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Speaker 2: Bill Parcell's coaching and Drew Bledsoe and I actually kind

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Speaker 2: of liked those guys. But then, yeah, we know what

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Speaker 2: happened to Pete Carroll, then Bill Belichick and the rest is history.

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Speaker 2: Then they started to win Super Bowl after Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: and it became the elite team in New England.

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Speaker 3: It supplanted the Red Sox.

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Speaker 2: Now the Red Sox victory at oh four when they

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Speaker 2: beat the Yankees after being down three, that was huge,

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Speaker 2: and the Red Sox really caught off because what they

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Speaker 2: four oh seven?

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Speaker 3: I believe never four seven thirteen. She's very good, Shohnyer.

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Speaker 3: But I got to tell you this.

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Speaker 2: You know, they definitely were the number one team because

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Speaker 2: pro football is king and I think the sign of

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Speaker 2: the times, along with everything else Uh, they definitely replaced

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Speaker 2: the Red Sox as the number one team in New England.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And look, we could have that debate later, but you're right.

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Speaker 2: Your girlfriend was right that a lot of people would

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Speaker 2: just stay away. The parking lots were dirt, so that

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Speaker 2: would mean mud in the snowy and horrible conditions that

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Speaker 2: arrive in late October, November, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she ever ended up getting season

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: My wife would be mad at me if I knew that.

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Speaker 1: My guess is at some point they probably they probably

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Speaker 1: did get season tickets because, like you said, it became

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Speaker 1: the number one UH sports team in that town.

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Speaker 3: Obviously everybody want to see the Red Sox win.

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Speaker 1: I felt like once the Red Sox won, it was like,

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Speaker 1: oh okay, now, it's not as they stopped being fans,

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Speaker 1: but it's like they wanted it for so long eighty

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Speaker 1: six years. And by the way, a second documentary is

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Speaker 1: now coming out about the four Red Sox what on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: There was a thirty for thirty done on the the

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Speaker 1: Red Sox called four Days in October, which I love.

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Speaker 3: The documentary is great. They're doing a second one for Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Four Days in October is the Mets Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Right, No, no, that's the that's the uh four Days

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Speaker 1: in the Bronx, Yeah, Bronx. Okay, this is four Days

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Speaker 1: in October where they beat the Yankees, and it's that

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Speaker 1: That documentary is well done. That's one of Bill Simmons.

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Speaker 1: He's a major part of that documentary.

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Speaker 3: And he's the thirty for thirty origins.

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Speaker 1: He's the thirty for thirty reginary and I think he

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Speaker 1: might be involved in this Netflix one.

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Speaker 3: But I've seen some of the previews and it looks good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a lot of interviews with with

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Speaker 1: players and the particulars in those, so I thought would

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Speaker 3: But it's like.

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Speaker 1: Two documentaries about that particular team.

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Speaker 3: It was the Patriots got ten parts.

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Speaker 2: So how do you handle Kurt Shilling now that he's canceled,

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Speaker 2: you know, how do you do all that with the interviewed?

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Speaker 3: He should interview him because he's a big part of

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Speaker 3: that year. It's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 1: There's Pedro Pedro yep, Kevin Mallar will be will be

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Speaker 1: interviewed for sure.

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Speaker 2: That postseason was going on while the Astros were winning

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Speaker 2: their first ever series, a divisional series, and then they

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Speaker 2: lost to the same loose Cardinals, but they beat him the.

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Speaker 3: Next year, those Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I loved that division for the vision, and I just wish,

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Speaker 2: really good there could be a way. I know it's

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Speaker 2: all worked out splendidly in the American League for them,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. There was something about those old

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Speaker 2: rivalries with the Pittsburgh Pirates and Saint Louis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the Cubs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then how you play his West Coast games? Uh,

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Speaker 3: A guy that will.

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Speaker 1: Be instrumental in leading the Texans to hopefully the first

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Speaker 1: win ever against the Patriots in Foxborough. It's happened here

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Speaker 1: in an Ergy Stadium. In fact, this happened three times.

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Speaker 1: It's just not happened in Foxborough. Is Demko ryans Mark

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Speaker 1: sat down with Demiko talk about this one, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, coach on the road for the first time in

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Speaker 2: a few weeks and outside for the first time this year.

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Speaker 2: Plus you were there in the preseason last year. Some

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Speaker 2: of the guys remained the same, of course on the roster.

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Speaker 2: Discuss all that for us being at New England, road environment, outdoors, everything, the.

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Speaker 6: Home environment for us has been great and now we're

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Speaker 6: excited to go on the road, right and we have

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Speaker 6: to play better.

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Speaker 7: On the road.

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Speaker 6: Haven't been great on the road, and so this is

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Speaker 6: a great opportunity versus a good team. I think the

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Speaker 6: energy will be nice in the stadium. They're starting their

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Speaker 6: rookie quarterbacks. I think their fans will be pumped up

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Speaker 6: and excited about the changes that they're making. Really good team,

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Speaker 6: good defensive team, good special teams unit. Like, it's going

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Speaker 6: to be a really good matchup. I don't care what

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Speaker 6: the record say. Is always going to be a really

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Speaker 6: good matchup. And we're not going in, you know, not

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Speaker 6: taking these guys series. Our guys are prepared. We're ready,

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Speaker 6: rock and roll.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, you don't look at the records.

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Speaker 2: So defensively, they've got a lot of playmakers, guys who

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Speaker 2: can hurt you by attacking that side of the football.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, defensively, for those guys they start up front, this

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Speaker 6: is a much bigger defensive line, and we played the

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Speaker 6: past couple of weeks they do a really good job

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Speaker 6: of two gaping. So we're gonna have to find a

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Speaker 6: way to really get on guys and move them just enough.

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Speaker 7: Space for our backs to get through the hole.

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Speaker 6: Our backs have to play fast, they have to be

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Speaker 6: explosive for us to gain some positive yards there and

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Speaker 6: on the outside a corner. Christian Gonzalez a really good player.

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Speaker 6: He's made a few plays. They'll mix it up, give

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Speaker 6: you a lot of different looks defensively, but I think

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Speaker 6: we have a really good opportunity to make some plays

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Speaker 6: in the passing game.

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Speaker 2: No matter who's in the backfield for them, you know

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Speaker 2: they want to run the football, so what about stopping

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Speaker 2: that part of their game?

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Speaker 6: Of course, their physical football team. I think the mindset

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Speaker 6: of running, playing physical and tough comes from their head coach.

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Speaker 7: We know they're going to run the football. They have

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Speaker 6: We have to make it as uncomfortable as possible for him, right,

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Speaker 2: Are you mentioned their special teams? What about the kicking

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're special teams again. Thing it's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: Can we again get vertical similar to rob last week,

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Speaker 3: Coach, thanks a lot, good luck, Thanks Mark, all right,

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Speaker 3: great stuff. Mark.

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Speaker 1: I always love when you to sit down and I

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Speaker 3: Now it stop for our.

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Speaker 1: Player pregame interview, and this week it is former Patriot

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Speaker 8: Shack, it's always good to be with you, good to

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Speaker 8: see you, and let's just talk about year ten in

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Speaker 8: the NFL for you. How's it going. What's different about

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Speaker 9: It's going good? Man, going good, feel good, Buddy's good healthy.

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Speaker 9: That's all I can ask for.

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Speaker 8: What's different about you now versus this time a decade ago?

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Speaker 4: There's nothing I haven't seen.

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Speaker 10: I can say that.

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Speaker 4: I can't say there's nothing I haven't seen.

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Speaker 9: And at this point in my career, you know, it's

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Speaker 9: all about just preparing and doing what's gotten here so far.

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Speaker 8: Where are you, guys, right now as an offensive.

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Speaker 4: Line, we're catching stride.

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Speaker 9: We're doing a lot of things better jen as a group,

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Speaker 8: You've won two super Bowl rings, You've been on some

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Speaker 8: are you seeing anything that gives you some memories of

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Speaker 8: like this feels familiar?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, Man.

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Speaker 9: I can just see, you know, how guys attack each

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Speaker 9: things that went a long way with those super Bowl

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Speaker 9: teams I've been on. That guys are very intentional with

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Speaker 9: how they approach teaching every day, and I see a

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Speaker 8: One year in. What sort of growth have you seen

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Speaker 9: A lot of growth, Man, he's comfortable taking that next

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Speaker 9: getting guys. You know what I'm saying, getting guys together

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Speaker 8: All Right, the task in front of you, guys is

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Speaker 8: the Patriots. Tell us about that front seven. What do

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Speaker 4: They present a lot of challenges.

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Speaker 9: Man, they're a good front. They're all my boys, but uh,

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Speaker 9: they you know, they're gonna do what they do there.

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Speaker 9: Their scheme is their scheme, and they all play it

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Speaker 9: very well, and they present many challenges and their record

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Speaker 9: definitely doesn't showcase the type of group they are.

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Speaker 4: I know that first hand.

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Speaker 8: Every week in the NFL, we can talk to somebody

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Speaker 4: It'll be fine.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 9: I was that for seven years, so you know, it's

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Speaker 9: definitely fun. It definitely it'll be my first time playing

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Speaker 8: Do you have any idea what that's gonna be like

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Speaker 4: You mentioned, not at all, not at all.

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Speaker 9: I mean, well, last year, you know we played time,

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Speaker 9: well preseason was there, but we didn't play. So but

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Speaker 9: it'll definitely be a surreal filler.

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Speaker 8: I say, Shack Mason, you're a good sport. We appreciate

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Speaker 8: the time. Best of luck this weekend against the Patriots.

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Speaker 8: Best luck the rest of the way.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it, man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So maybe we're doing some things Mark to reverse

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Speaker 1: the curse we have Shack on former Patriot. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: that's gonna help. But I'm gonna go here with this, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I want to see how good you are the Texans.

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Speaker 1: This hit me at about five thirty this morning when

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Speaker 3: The Patriots.

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Speaker 1: We know we've never beaten them on their turf. We've

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Speaker 1: never been the Patriots in New England. Right, We've already

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Speaker 3: We know we've never beaten Dallas in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: How many teams in the NFL have the Texans not

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Speaker 3: How many of them? Can you name? Philadelphia?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's the number? What do you think the number is?

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Speaker 1: Just stop not beaten on the road, not being on

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's at least like four or five that we've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because Seattle would be one. By the time you

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Speaker 3: It's way more. There are in the af Can you

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Speaker 2: They're two in the AFC Patriots obviously, and you beat

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Speaker 3: I'll purple the Ravens of course. So there's only two

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Speaker 3: You never beat the Chargers in San Diego. No, you

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Speaker 3: not saying, Randy Pullock. There's only two in AFC.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, So Mark, there are eleven total the

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Speaker 1: Texans have not beaten eleven have not beaten on the road.

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Speaker 2: Arizona, Arizona good Seattle, San Francisco, yep, that whole vision,

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Speaker 2: that whole division rams. Okay, now we have Now there's

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Speaker 3: I loved him off the list. Yeah, I loft them

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Own.

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Speaker 3: I was part of that four game winning streak to

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Speaker 2: So we hang on Dallas, Dallas, yep, NFC South, you

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, You've never beaten the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Never beaten the Saints norm there so many times in

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Speaker 2: the preseason it gets cloudy for me. And the first

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Speaker 1: But we also we also almost broke this streak last

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Speaker 3: Matt Ryan track meet one. We one happened this year? Uh, Minnesota, Minnesota. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then I think you, oh, and there's one other

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Speaker 1: Now, we have won in that building, but we have

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Speaker 3: Wait, what are we talking about here? Never beaten this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in fact, we have. We have two teams that

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Speaker 3: Minnesota and Philly, No, Soota and Philly very good?

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Speaker 1: Uh, Seattle, Dallas, Philly, the New York Giants, San Francisco, Arizona, Minnesota, Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: New Orleans, and then the two in the AFC New England.

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Speaker 2: If he's given me more time to prepare.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I know, I know you would have no

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Speaker 1: What's interesting about New Orleans and Atlanta is we've beaten

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's even. But however, the numbers have

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Atlanta's never won here, We've never won there. Seven.

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Speaker 2: So in seven, fifteen, and twenty three, those are the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got it, yep. I think ariz the Arizona fall

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Speaker 3: Five beat them in thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Right in Houston. We've won all three in Arizona. They've

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Speaker 3: Were we were there in thirteen, hang on right, beat

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Speaker 2: We went back there twice, Seattle and Arizona. It was

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Speaker 1: That's right, oh, five to twenty seventeen. Yeah, that was weird.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the nine and thirteen back to back. So

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Speaker 3: It's weird. It's kind of strange.

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Speaker 1: And I know all these NFC which makes sense because

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Speaker 2: But we'll see, Wait, what do we look at next year?

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Speaker 1: Team, however we would finish, and that will be here,

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Speaker 1: that will be here.

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Speaker 3: That'll be here because you have nine home games, because you.

446
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Speaker 1: Have nine home games. Yeah, so it'll be somebody from

447
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Speaker 1: the NFC South here.

448
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Speaker 2: And what we'll be watching come schedule. Release time is

449
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Speaker 2: international games, yes, because you'll lose a home game maybe

450
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Speaker 2: and go somewhere else. Is Mexico ready by twenty twenty five?

451
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 2: Is a Stadio Azteca. The longest renovation of the history

452
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Speaker 2: of stadium has taken away built the Rome Coliseum.

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Speaker 3: It takes a while.

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Speaker 2: I mean they built the Pyramids in less time that

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Speaker 2: it's taking to remodel a studio that's taken a.

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Speaker 3: While, There's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought that was interesting because I woke

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Speaker 1: up with that because what I started thinking about was

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Speaker 1: how many because the Northeast is what stood out to me.

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Speaker 1: You're kind of the North Northeast Patriots, Eagles, Giants, you know,

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Speaker 1: places where we haven't won. And I started to come

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Speaker 1: up with, man, a lot of these places are kind

463
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Speaker 1: of North Northeastern venues. And then I looked up, we

464
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Speaker 1: did beat the Bills in Buffalo once. I have not

465
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Speaker 1: obviously had that opportunity to be down there for that,

466
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Speaker 1: but it just felt like, man, we got to go

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Speaker 1: up to the Northeast and get to win.

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Speaker 3: So let me establish, like put a flag in the dirt.

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Speaker 2: If I gave the pregame speech and talked about the

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Speaker 2: Texans have never won in this building.

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Speaker 3: Does that even mean anything to the No, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: So we got in the game.

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Speaker 1: It'll be kind of cool for them to know that

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Speaker 1: they did it. Yeah, but I don't think it's.

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Speaker 3: I bet I bet he might bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Though he might he might bring it not as the

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Speaker 2: central focus of whatever his talk is to them.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not talking right before the game. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: Saturday Nights speech.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good history lesson in that there

481
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Speaker 1: have been good Texas teams that have gone in there

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Speaker 1: thinking that they're going to win this game.

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Speaker 2: It's a hard cell though, because hey, who was playing

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Speaker 2: quarterback for them?

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady? Right, so they well Tom Brady plays for

486
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Speaker 3: us now, but just played one of these games. That's

487
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Speaker 3: the game. That's the game. I would bring up a two.

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Speaker 2: And zero Texans team went up there and lost to

489
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Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback making his debut. That job like not

490
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Speaker 2: even close. It was twenty seven and nothing. It was

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Speaker 2: a debacle.

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Speaker 1: But I think it would be better to be in Providence.

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Speaker 1: It's better to play the game on a Sunday. And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad the game is at noon, yeah, or one o'clock, sorry,

495
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Speaker 1: one o'clock Eastern time. I think all of those things

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Speaker 1: work in the favor of the Texans.

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Speaker 2: I think didn't Bill Parcels have a horse named Sunday

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Speaker 2: at one?

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Speaker 4: He did?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Sarrisota. Yeah, that was his horse, Sunday at one.

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Speaker 3: Sunday at one, baby, let's go. That's pretty good your

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Speaker 3: East Coast top.

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Speaker 2: If you owned the horse here, like Bob McNair, if

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Speaker 2: he had a horse with a similar name, it would

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Speaker 2: be Sunday at noon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you couldn't. You couldn't go with I would just.

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Speaker 2: Call my horse nooner, yeah, and then we'd go from there.

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Speaker 2: Let people wonder.

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Speaker 3: You would definitely, you would definitely have them wondering. There's

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Speaker 3: no doubt.

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Speaker 1: What's your what's your gut feel? I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: there have been times this year other years where I

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Speaker 1: felt like, yeah, like I felt we were gonna go

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota and play well. I think we got into

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Speaker 1: we got into the crea and we got into the

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Speaker 1: crevass and mistakes and couldn't get ourselves.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you this right now.

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Speaker 2: You could make the same mistake to begin the game

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00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 2: the same too, mistake, holding penalty and weird deflected ball.

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Speaker 2: It's entirely possible against anybody in this league. Carolina, you

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Speaker 2: could And speaking of Carolina, do I have to remind

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Speaker 2: anybody about last year? You go in there and you

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Speaker 2: feel like, okay, we should have No you didn't, and

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Speaker 2: get ready because they do have players, they do have pride,

526
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Speaker 2: they are desperate, they have all that stuff you're outside.

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Speaker 3: Don't give them any hope? Well, what did we give

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Speaker 3: the Vikings?

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Speaker 2: Now, the Vikings are a good team, we all know that,

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Speaker 2: but you made an extra hard on yourself by surrendering

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Speaker 2: an early touchdown. You could do that here. You could

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Speaker 2: muff upon and give them a free touchdown. That happened

533
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Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago. Hey, you could do

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Speaker 2: anything like that, and you give them hope and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden you are in a game and it's

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Speaker 2: tougher than your thought.

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Speaker 1: That's the speech you need to give. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 1: speech you need to give. And that is it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what the record is. And it sounds cliche, but

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Speaker 1: you really cannot get into this game and go, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots are one and four.

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Speaker 3: The starting rookie, the offensive line is a mess.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then overwhelm them, absolutely overwhelm them, and then don't

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Speaker 1: let up.

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Speaker 3: But how do you overwhelm them.

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Speaker 2: You can only do it one play at a time, right,

547
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Speaker 2: But when you're trying to come back, it's like, we

548
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Speaker 2: can't score twenty one on this play. You can't blow

549
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Speaker 2: them out in one drive in one play, well, right,

550
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Speaker 2: you got to build it.

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Speaker 3: Brick by brick is calmit, right.

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Speaker 1: But my point is when you overwhelm somebody, it is

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Speaker 1: you have that same intensity every play, every play, no

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Speaker 1: matter what, first and ten, second and nine first and three,

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Speaker 1: fourth and goal. It's that intensity that you're playing with

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Speaker 1: and you don't let up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do not let up.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things maybe they

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Speaker 1: learned from that game against the Bills. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they've let up. I don't think this team is a

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Speaker 1: let up team. I don't think that. I do think

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Speaker 1: they're still at times where there are some lulls where

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Speaker 1: they kind of get in some lulls because they do

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Speaker 1: play a high intensity.

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Speaker 3: Kind of game. They are extremely physical, nasty, violent.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to, uh who was it was Danielovski Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was Danna Rolofsky.

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Speaker 3: I think Sean Seth had this.

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Speaker 1: Danieloski was talking about this defense and he mentioned the

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Speaker 1: word violent and nasty a number of times talking about

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Speaker 1: this defense. So it's natural in a sense to let

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Speaker 1: your guard down a little bit. When you're up twenty

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Speaker 1: to three, it's natural to let it down. Look, but

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Speaker 1: that's what you can't do. You've got to be that

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Speaker 1: team that says, you know what, we'll let up when

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Speaker 1: they're zeros, right, but until then, we're coming after you.

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Speaker 1: And I think they've got the coming after your part.

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Speaker 1: It's just every single play now, just the relentless, overwhelming

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Speaker 1: nature of every single play.

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Speaker 3: You have to deal with us. You will get no breaks.

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Speaker 2: I think every NFL game's tough. This is cliche too,

582
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Speaker 2: but like you said, don't let up, don't make the

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Speaker 2: catastrophic mistake. Yes, you've made big mistakes, and all these

584
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: wins we talked about it, All four victories have big

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Speaker 2: mistakes that they've overcome. You don't want to have to

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Speaker 2: overcome a gigantic mistake. Not that you're going to play

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Speaker 2: a perfect game, we get it. Play a much better

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Speaker 2: game overall. Get the job done, Get out of there

589
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: with the dub And now you've got Green Bay to

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Speaker 2: look at.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna talk.

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Speaker 2: About green I don't talk about Yeah, it's the New

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Speaker 2: England Patriots. And this is, like we said, a desperate team.

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Speaker 2: They held the Dolphins to fifteen in a loss. In

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Speaker 2: a loss, Johnny, And look like I said with Dimiko,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who's in the backfield. They're gonna try

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Speaker 2: to run the ball. They'd be insane not to try it.

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Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson. Also, Drake May the element of surprise, unpredictability.

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Speaker 3: What's he going to do? Can he make a big

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Speaker 3: throw or two?

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Speaker 2: Can he do something on third down with his legs

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Speaker 2: to extend drives? You've got to be aware of all

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Speaker 2: of that. They should be in good shape here, But hey,

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Speaker 2: should is a word that shouldn't exist in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We've said it before.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, But there's the speech, there's the spech for sure.

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Speaker 3: Now we've given you a little bit, I'll give you more.

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Speaker 1: It's my Keys to the game next right here in

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access.

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Speaker 3: What's happening, everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Friday edition of Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: from the Hyundai Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 3: I am your host, John Harris.

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Speaker 1: Football on a sideline reporter for your Houston Texans and

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Speaker 1: glad to be with you. And now it's the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots team that is one and four on the

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Speaker 1: season and it's time for our keys to the game

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Speaker 1: to beat the New England Patriots in their home stadium,

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Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested to see how everything goes on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Everything there's to me. There's so much intrigue for this one.

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Speaker 1: We haven't been back there in regular season six years now.

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Speaker 1: We went back there in twenty twenty three one preseason game,

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Speaker 1: so you know, starting with the rookie class at twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, it's all they know they beat Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've seen horrible games there. We've talked about them

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Speaker 3: all week.

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Speaker 1: We talked about with Mark today twenty sixteen, Thursday Night,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Playoffs twenty seventeen. We've got the win in

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Speaker 1: the bag until Tom Brady takes away from us twenty eighteen,

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00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: fubble the ball in the first offensive play of the game,

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Speaker 1: lost by seven.

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Speaker 3: We haven't played regular season game since.

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Speaker 1: Everything has changed except for John Weeks and Kami Fairbairn,

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Speaker 1: and I'm good with that because those two are the best.

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00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: Everything else has changed on both sides. Bill Belichick is

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Speaker 1: finally not there. That will help for many, many reasons.

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00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: So how are we gonna beat these Patriots? Well, let's

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Speaker 1: give me my music and let's get started on the

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00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: keys of the game. Now, getting to the Patriots a

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00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: little bit, they're one and four. They beat the Bengals

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Speaker 1: to start the year, but then they've lost four straight

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00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: and have not scored a ton of points against Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: twenty against the Jets, three against the Niners, thirteen against

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Speaker 1: Dolphins ten. So you're talking about thirty forty three, forty

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Speaker 1: six after the win against the Bengals. My map is correct,

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Speaker 1: Probably isn't just doing it in my head as I'm talking.

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Speaker 3: So what has gone.

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Speaker 1: Wrong for the Patriots? Well, not the run game. The

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00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: run game is pretty good. However, there is news with that,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to the second. One hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: one point four yards per game on the ground, that's

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Speaker 1: eighth in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Here's what the problems has been.

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Speaker 1: They are thirty second in the NFL one hundred and

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Speaker 1: nineteen yards per game through the air, they are averaging

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Speaker 1: twelve yards more rushing per game than they are throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball. They've thrown an interception, they've lost three fumbles,

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Speaker 1: they've given up the ball four times. They've only averaged

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty one yards per game.

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Speaker 3: That's second to last in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: The only team with less yardage per game is that

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Speaker 1: Shan Watson led Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: That's it. They're like two hundred and thirty nine per game.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's sad.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's go back that run game a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Ramandre Stevenson is out of this game out, so when

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Speaker 1: I did my keys, I was kind of thinking that

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Speaker 1: he might play, but not, so I left him out

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Speaker 1: because the bigger news was that Drake May is gonna start.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into that three keys. The time is

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Speaker 1: now for the Patriots, and that's Drake May. Drake May

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Speaker 1: is a wildly talented guy, and there's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of wild horse to his game, a little bit not

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen wild horse. But he's also not just stuck

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Speaker 1: in the mud horse either. He's kind of in between.

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Speaker 1: He has his moments where you see the athleticism and

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Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, it looks pretty good, and then you

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Speaker 1: see other moments where you're like, oh boy, there he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have some issues. Now he's facing a Texas defense

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Speaker 1: that when it faced a rookie the last time, Demko

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Speaker 1: Rants challenged him and said, youre gonna beat us. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna beat the blitz because we just don't think you

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Speaker 1: can handle it in just your second start. That was

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Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams on Sunday night. Texans blissed him like forty

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Speaker 1: five to fifty percent of the time and they got

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Speaker 1: seven sacks as a result, and the Bears offense didn't

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Speaker 1: do a whole heck of a lot in that game.

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Speaker 1: Cam doesn't fumble at the two yard line, beat them

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Speaker 1: by fourteen to seventy points. Now, my Scotty report on

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Speaker 1: Drake May coming into the league last year right to

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Speaker 1: the draft this past year, guts in a gamer, deep

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Speaker 1: ackers outside the numbers, completed passes in some of the

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Speaker 1: most unique ways I saw a quarterback do it through

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Speaker 1: bad passes and some of the most unique ways. Too

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Speaker 1: creative passer, but holds a bit too long at times.

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Speaker 1: Ce's throwing lanes that weren't even lanes on occasion three

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Speaker 1: quarters throwing motion not unusual for a six to five quarterback.

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Speaker 1: My cop to him was Packers quarterback Jordan Love. Now

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Speaker 1: that's his ceiling. I think right now we have no idea,

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Speaker 1: but I do think that Demko is gonna throw the

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Speaker 1: kitchen sink at him and see how he reacts. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna do that also, because key number two is the

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Speaker 1: offensive line is kind of a hot mess right now.

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Speaker 1: They've already had David Andrews, their stud center, go on IR.

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Speaker 1: Col Strange, their guard they drafted in the first round

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Speaker 1: a couple years ago.

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Speaker 3: He's on IR.

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Speaker 1: They've also lost their rookie Caden Wallace, he's on egh Are.

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Speaker 1: They all said two of the backups, Chakuma okafor and

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Speaker 1: Jake Andrews, both on IR. The names on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: like I said to Mark earlier, Michael Jordan, you remember that,

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Speaker 1: But that's not Michael Jordan, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean? For Darien Lowe, Nick Leverett, Mike Unway.

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Speaker 1: Now, now he's a really good player, but he's the

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Speaker 1: only guy that's been around throughout the whole thing. To

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Speaker 1: Maatrey Jacobs, the guys that just haven't heard of and

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Speaker 1: they've been struggling protecting Jacoby Brissett. Now Drake may can

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Speaker 1: protect himself by getting out in getting out and run

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Speaker 1: like Brissett did earlier in his career, and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do a little bit of that. And when

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Speaker 1: he does, he's gonna have to five Pop Douglas, a

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Speaker 1: slot receiver.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of a poor man's Christian.

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Speaker 1: Kirk really tough on the interior guys, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's where I get a little worried, because Kirk had

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Speaker 1: a good game against the Texans because he made those

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Speaker 1: interior guys lose separation and coverage, and that's something they

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Speaker 1: gotta stay sticky in coverage, no doubt about that. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the Patriots defense. Now, this is a

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Speaker 1: unit that has been together for a while. Thirteen in

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Speaker 1: the NFL against the run one hundred and eighteen yards

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Speaker 1: per game. Passing yards that youve up two hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty nine yards per game, but keep in mind Texas

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Speaker 1: don't have Nico Collins, and as a total as a defense,

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Speaker 1: they give up three hundred and fifty seven yards per game.

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Speaker 1: That's twenty fourth in the NFL. But they turned teams over.

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Speaker 1: That's how games have stayed close. So let's get to

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Speaker 1: the keys.

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Speaker 3: Number one. No Nico, no problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, they've got Stefan Diggs and Tank Dell and Dont Schultz,

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Speaker 1: En Taqul Toriano was back and they've they've got some

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Speaker 1: things catched over. Xavier Hutchinson, Dumbwalle cam Akers, the running

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Speaker 1: backs could be back. We don't know what the deal

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Speaker 1: is quite yet with Joe Mixon. So they've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of weapons. I don't think it's a massive problem,

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Speaker 1: but they still have to work themselves to a point

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Speaker 1: where they can live life without Nico and be successful.

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Speaker 1: They had four and twenty five toll yards last week,

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Speaker 1: and probably what three hundred those came, maybe about two

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Speaker 1: to seventy five came after Nico's hurt. The offense did

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Speaker 1: a solid job. Now they have to quit settling for

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Speaker 1: a field goals. They gotta get themselves thirty points. It

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Speaker 1: would be kind of nice. Key number two kind of

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Speaker 1: goes with key number one. Christian Gonzalez is one of

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Speaker 1: the better young corners in the league this year. He

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Speaker 1: has followed the big receivers Jamar Chase, dk Metcalf. He's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna follow an eagle Collins. Now does he follow anybody?

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Speaker 1: Is he stayed to one side. That's gonna be an

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Speaker 1: interesting matchup to watch because Christian Gonzales.

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Speaker 3: Number zero is very very good in coverage.

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Speaker 1: Now he's not there extingly yet, but he is smooth

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Speaker 1: and fast and can find the football. He is a problem.

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Speaker 1: CJ's got to be very aware of where number zero is.

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Speaker 1: And finally, Von Gotshaw. I remember seeing him in twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen Texas Bowl. Fulcome back to that game. Man, there's

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Speaker 1: so many players in that game. Jamal Adams for.

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Speaker 3: The LSU, are in Kee for LSU, Gotshaw for LSU, some.

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Speaker 1: Cat named Mahomes for Texas Tech. I mean that game

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Speaker 1: is a low to with players. Well, Gotshall caught my

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Speaker 1: caught my eyes on the LSU sideline. I could just

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Speaker 1: just kind of eye him, like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Dude moves. He's strong, he's power.

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Speaker 1: He'll play in different areas up and on the line.

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Speaker 1: Because the Patriots like to change their front and just

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Speaker 1: kind of change they kind of spin the dial. So

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Speaker 1: Gotshall play for the no sum. He'll move out to

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Speaker 1: a four. I just inside the tackles. He creates issues.

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Speaker 1: Texans cannot cannot allow him to create issues against them.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, Block Gotshaw, get a hat on a linebacker,

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Speaker 1: which to some of the Texans haven't done, and run

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Speaker 1: the football. Run the ball, and we'll see whether Joe

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Speaker 1: Mixon is going to be available or not. Right now,

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Speaker 1: he is questionable for this game against the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Fingers crossed that he does play, but he's listening to

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Speaker 1: this question. Well, so, I mean, you just never know

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Speaker 1: with the ankle. You might want to save it for

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Speaker 1: another week. But he was at least that practice the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days in a row, and so that

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Speaker 1: is good news. Damian Pierce has no injury designation, so

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Speaker 1: he is in.

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Speaker 3: That is great.

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Speaker 1: So let's keep our fingers cross this run game can

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Speaker 1: get going. Okay, Coming up next our good friend John

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Speaker 1: Alexander from the Houston Chronicle. But we got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about, so let's do it next right here

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Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. Stay right where you are, tap

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Speaker 1: and everybody welco back to a Friday edition of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access from Monday Texans Radios Studio. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, Footballino sideline reporters. Time to bring on our

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Speaker 1: good friend from the Houston Chronicle Jonathan Alexander, We got

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Speaker 1: plenty to talk about. You heard my keys in the

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Speaker 1: previous segments, so let's hear what Jonathan's got to say

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Speaker 1: about this one against the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Witherson Studio now is a man who I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: is not on the injury report this week, and that

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Speaker 2: would be a big exception. So Jonathan Alexander for the

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Speaker 2: Houston Chronicle. How's it going with Jonathan?

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Speaker 11: I'm good, I am healthy, no hamstring issues fortunately, as

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Speaker 11: of Tony.

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Speaker 3: Not doubtful, You are probable.

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Speaker 10: I am definitely probable.

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Speaker 2: Probably Well, Nico Collins is on IR so your reaction

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Speaker 2: to that and how do you think that affects the team?

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Speaker 3: Jonathan?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it was a pretty devastating because initially, you know,

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Speaker 11: when Demko talked about it on Monday, he said it

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Speaker 11: was a couple of weeks, but obviously after a further evaluation,

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Speaker 11: they realized it'd be a longer injury. And you know,

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Speaker 11: the way Nico was playing, he was playing at such

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Speaker 11: a high level, the best of his career through first

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Speaker 11: four years, and you know, we talked about it on

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Speaker 11: the last or two shows ago. He's wanted the more

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Speaker 11: nicer players and players you're happy for. But aside from that,

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Speaker 11: he was just such a huge part of the Texans

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Speaker 11: offense and c J. Straus's top weapon and they couldn't

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Speaker 11: defenses couldn't stop him. So the Texans lose just, you know,

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Speaker 11: an incredible weapon and they're going to have to make

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Speaker 11: up for with the other receivers, which they prepared for

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Speaker 11: when they traded for Stefan Diggs this offseason.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think they do? Do you mentioned

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Speaker 1: Diggs is still here, Dell's still here, Xavier Hutchinson had

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Speaker 1: a couple of big catches, So what do they do, Jonathan?

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Speaker 1: Do you think against the Patriots and beyond without Nico

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Speaker 1: and without.

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Speaker 3: Woods because he hasn't been practicing either.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, I think they use their weapons who they

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Speaker 11: haven't used much in a variety of ways. And like

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Speaker 11: e Xavier Hutchinson, they might not use him in the

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Speaker 11: deep ball game like they use Nico cons but they

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Speaker 11: might use him in the intermediate game on slants and

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Speaker 11: things like that. They might use Tank Dell in a

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Speaker 11: deep ball game. You know, you can't use him exactly

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Speaker 11: how you use Nico kNs or different players, but both

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Speaker 11: of them. What they do very well is they catch

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Speaker 11: the deep ball very well. So I think you might

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Speaker 11: see the Texans use their wide receivers in different ways

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Speaker 11: how Nico has been effective. They might use their receivers

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Speaker 11: and place them in those advantageous positions this week.

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Speaker 2: All right, so they're not scoring a ton of points,

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Speaker 2: but they are moving the ball very well. What do

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Speaker 2: you make of the offense overall? And Stroud's game so

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Speaker 2: far this year?

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Speaker 11: His performance, Yeah, I think he has been incredible. I

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Speaker 11: even look at the interception that happened that was actually

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Speaker 11: in a tremendous play by the Bills linebacker. He's on

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Speaker 11: Dalton Showtz and came off as CJ was throwing the ball.

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Speaker 11: You couldn't see him aside. And then the forest fumble

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Speaker 11: that was the authentic Yeah, yeah, those things happen.

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Speaker 10: I think CJ.

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Speaker 11: Stritt is playing at extremely high level, especially the last

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Speaker 11: two weeks. He's seeing the field really well, making incredible

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Speaker 11: throws one of the biggest stats.

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Speaker 10: So I saw.

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Speaker 11: I was really interested to see how the Texans were

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Speaker 11: performing on third down after Nico Collins went out. They

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Speaker 11: were seven or fourteen on third down. That is incredible,

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Speaker 11: you know, when you don't expect Nico Collins, when you

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Speaker 11: don't expect not to have him, and all of a

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Speaker 11: sudden you make those adjustments.

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Speaker 10: I think he's playing extremely well.

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Speaker 11: They just got to score more touchdowns and I think

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Speaker 11: that'll come with time. Now that you have a week

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Speaker 11: to prepare for Nico collins absence, I think they'll be

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Speaker 11: better prepared for this against a good Patriots defense.

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Speaker 1: So we haven't seen Joe Mixon Damian Pierce in a

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Speaker 1: game since Bears Bears.

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Speaker 3: They've been back at practice.

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Speaker 1: We don't know how much they're doing because we only

881
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Speaker 1: see the beginning of part of practice. But Jonathan, what

882
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Speaker 1: does it mean to have both of them back and

883
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Speaker 1: how does that impact the running game if they are

884
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Speaker 1: able to go on Sunday.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I look at Thursday's practice as the barometer of

886
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Speaker 11: what the players will play. Friday's practice, Ye're like, Okay,

887
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 11: they're just getting their feet wet. But Thursday's practice, if

888
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Speaker 11: they come through that practice unscathed, then it's a great sign.

889
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Speaker 11: And that would be huge because Joe Mixon is definitely

890
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Speaker 11: a difference maker in games. He is he does his power,

891
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Speaker 11: his vision, his leadership. He just brings so much, and

892
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Speaker 11: that's what the Texans were missing, and you get that

893
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Speaker 11: back along with another body in Damian Pierce, who is

894
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Speaker 11: playing a lot better than he who was playing a

895
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Speaker 11: lot better than whom was last year, is probably more confident.

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Speaker 11: I think that only helps the Texans and takes pressure

897
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Speaker 11: off of CJ. Stroud, because that was the one thing

898
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Speaker 11: you were worried about with Nico Collins, is CJ. Stro

899
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Speaker 11: gonna put too much on his back to take over games.

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Speaker 11: Now you have Joe Mixon and possibly Damian Piers. I mean,

901
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Speaker 11: now you have possibly Joe Mixon and definitely Damian Pierce,

902
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Speaker 11: and that relieves some of their pressure off CJ.

903
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Speaker 3: All Right, what about the defense? Lasser injured?

904
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Speaker 2: They Kadar Holman back into the building, and I don't

905
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Speaker 2: know what his role is going to be, if anything,

906
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Speaker 2: but they've got to find a way to play that

907
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Speaker 2: other corner spot effectively.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I think that's the biggest concern I have, because I

910
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Speaker 11: don't know who you start opposite of Derek Stanley, Kadarl Holman,

911
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Speaker 11: D'Angelo Ross, Chris Boyd, Desmond King. None of those guys

912
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Speaker 11: have in recent years have a ton of starts and

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Speaker 11: have much experience, so that is definitely a concern I think.

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Speaker 11: You know, obviously, I think Kadar Holman, they've started him before,

915
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Speaker 11: and they started Desmond King in twenty twenty one at

916
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Speaker 11: outside corner, So those might be your top options.

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Speaker 10: But I don't know.

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Speaker 11: That's one big concern I'd have, especially playing against a

919
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Speaker 11: new quarterback in Drake May, They'll probably.

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Speaker 10: Do a little bit more different things.

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Speaker 11: Drake May has an incredible arm and their offensive line

922
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Speaker 11: is suspect though, But you know, I just be a

923
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Speaker 11: little bit concerned about that.

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Speaker 1: If from the Texans, Johnny, what would you say is

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Speaker 1: through five games, the biggest best surprise, what's been probably

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Speaker 1: the biggest not so good surprise.

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Speaker 10: Oh, that is a great question.

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Speaker 11: I think probably the biggest surprise is really how good

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Speaker 11: the defense has been.

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Speaker 10: They had a couple of hiccups the Vikings.

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Speaker 11: Number one, and there was one more game where they

932
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Speaker 11: weren't as great as I thought, But aside from that,

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Speaker 11: they really carried that team. Last week in the Bills game,

934
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Speaker 11: how they got after Josh Allen, Yeah, who was playing

935
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Speaker 11: at an MVP level prior, was extremely impressive.

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Speaker 10: Nine for thirty to do that.

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Speaker 11: That was really great and I think that just goes

938
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Speaker 11: to show what Demiko Ryan's envision. He wanted a linebacker

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Speaker 11: like Aziz Asha here. He wanted a pass strusher like

940
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Speaker 11: Daniel Hunter. Not that Jonathan Grenard couldn't do that, but

941
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Speaker 11: I do think those guys fit his style. He brought

942
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Speaker 11: in a lot more players that fit his style, so

943
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Speaker 11: he's able to do a lot more of what he wants.

944
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Speaker 11: And players are playing like Henry Tote are playing at

945
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Speaker 11: a high level right now.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Alexander Houston Chronicle with US Chiefs are five and zero,

947
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Speaker 2: Texans four in the AFC. It's so hard to gauge

948
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Speaker 2: these these things, I think, and it'll all come out

949
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Speaker 2: in the wash with the schedule that the Texans have.

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Speaker 2: But how good do you think this team is or

951
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Speaker 2: can be relative to what you've seen out of Baltimore?

952
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Speaker 2: We've seen Buffalo up close and personal, the Chiefs winning

953
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Speaker 2: games close. It's not pretty always, but they get the

954
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Speaker 2: job done.

955
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Speaker 10: What do you think how good this Texans team could be?

956
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think they can be extremely good, especially if

958
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Speaker 11: they get Nico Collins back and they remain relatively healthy.

959
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Speaker 11: I mean, they've shown that they can withstand stancer and injuries.

960
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Speaker 11: I think that shows that they're a much deeper team

961
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Speaker 11: that they have been than they were last year and

962
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Speaker 11: definitely in their years before that. I think the key

963
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Speaker 11: is continuing to cut down on penalties. We saw the

964
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Speaker 11: difference between this team, like the third quarter, they committed

965
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Speaker 11: six penalties. The difference between the team that doesn't commit

966
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Speaker 11: penalties and the team that does their lights out different,

967
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Speaker 11: and I think last week's game really underscored that. So

968
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Speaker 11: I think the Texans are one of the top three

969
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Speaker 11: teams in the probably definitely top five in the NFL,

970
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Speaker 11: probably top three in the NFL, and definitely one of

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Speaker 11: the top two teams in the AFC. I think they've

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Speaker 11: only shown that and they're continued, they'll continue to get better.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's take that, Let's build on that. Chiefs are

974
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Speaker 1: five and OH Vikers are five, and Oh Tuxas are four.

975
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Speaker 4: To one.

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Speaker 1: Take those three out of the equation. It's the best

977
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Speaker 1: team in the NFL minus those three. Take out those three,

978
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Speaker 1: the two underfeed, and take all the Texans because we talk.

979
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Speaker 3: About them all the time.

980
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Speaker 1: It's the best team in the NFL, regardless of record

981
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Speaker 1: that you think right now.

982
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Speaker 3: Playing that way week five. This is the best team

983
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Speaker 3: in the NFL minus those three.

984
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Speaker 11: I think when you look at the potential, I think

985
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Speaker 11: you gotta look at the Baltimore Ravens just in what

986
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Speaker 11: they're able to do. How good of a player Lamar

987
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Speaker 11: Jackson is. He's always dangerous. John Harbor is a great coach.

988
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 11: You know, they didn't look good against the Bengals as

989
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 11: far as the defense goes. But if there's anybody who

990
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Speaker 11: can turn things around, it's definitely John Harbor. And you

991
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Speaker 11: just never can count out Lamar Jackson offense.

992
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Speaker 2: Yeah, his record against the Bengals is really it's like

993
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Speaker 2: eight and one or something like that.

994
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.

995
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: And the Bengals have been to a Super Bowl and

996
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Speaker 2: another AFC Championship. It's incredible how good his record is

997
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Speaker 2: against the Bengals. But I agree it's the Baltimore Ravens.

998
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: They are such a good team. And I think that again,

999
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Speaker 2: it'll all come out in the wash. It's a good

1000
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Speaker 2: thing you have them at home this year and we

1001
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Speaker 2: still look at correct me if I'm wrong, Jonathan. The

1002
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Speaker 2: three games the Dolphins, who knows what they're gonna be

1003
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Speaker 2: by the time they get here. Maybe two is playing again,

1004
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: and maybe they found a way to get it going.

1005
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Speaker 2: But the Chiefs and the Ravens in particular, four or

1006
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Speaker 2: five days apart from that Saturday to that Wednesday, Christmas Day,

1007
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Speaker 2: that's got to be a pivotal point. Even though we're

1008
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Speaker 2: in the season now. We talked about that in the offseason,

1009
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Speaker 2: it's got to still be the focus or the pivotal

1010
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Speaker 2: point there of the season.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

1012
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 11: Absolutely, we'll really know what the Texans are made of

1013
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Speaker 11: during that stress. The good news for the Texans is,

1014
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Speaker 11: if I'm not mistaking, the Ravens and the Chiefs have

1015
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Speaker 11: a similar stretch in that In that yeah, so both

1016
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Speaker 11: teams are going to be tired, or both teams are

1017
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 11: going to be dealing with juggling various injuries. But if

1018
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 11: the Texans can come out with at least two out

1019
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 11: of three wins in that stress, then they're gonna have

1020
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Speaker 11: a lot of confidence going into that playoff run.

1021
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Speaker 1: I think you both are sleeping on the Lions, baby,

1022
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, the Lion.

1023
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 10: Yes, the Lions.

1024
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 11: I think the Lions are an extremely talented team and

1025
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 11: they would be up there, they would be just ahead

1026
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 11: of the I would have the Texans fourth.

1027
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Speaker 10: My power ring.

1028
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Now, last year, the Ravens beat the you know what

1029
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: are the Lions. But I think the Lions are a

1030
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: different animal this year. I think the Lions are really

1031
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: really good. I thought they were good last year. I

1032
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: think they're exceptional this year, and they've been together for

1033
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: another year.

1034
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Speaker 3: I still would be with both of you.

1035
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Speaker 1: I would take the Ravens, but I think I think

1036
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Speaker 1: the Lions are right right right there.

1037
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Speaker 3: I mean that they're right on this almost on the

1038
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Speaker 3: same line.

1039
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Speaker 2: And you could have definitely imagined a hangover after the

1040
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 2: way they lost the NFC Championship came sped that, Yeah,

1041
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: it hasn't happened, Jonathan, What do you have going on

1042
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Speaker 2: of the chronicle for us?

1043
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 11: We've got multiple stories of course, uh Joe Mixon returning,

1044
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 11: Nico Collins, what the Texans will do against the Patriots

1045
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 11: quarterbacks against the Patriots quarterback Drake May and of course

1046
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Speaker 11: my Texans newsletter, Texans Insider, you can you can check

1047
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 11: that out is free to you all, so please check

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Speaker 11: it out.

1049
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Speaker 3: I get that every week. I get that every week.

1050
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: I love it nice. I like to find things out

1051
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: that I don't know about my team. It's really cool.

1052
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: So appreciate it. Thank you, Jonathan, Thanks love for joining us.

1053
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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me man.

1054
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Speaker 1: I love our little uh Friday hookups, neat sports cute

1055
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: with Jonatha Alexander's that the way it's supposed to be used.

1056
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Speaker 1: Don't know, maybe not, but either way, I love when

1057
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Speaker 1: Jay comes into the studio. We have a good time

1058
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Speaker 1: hanging with him. Appreciate that. Okay, we got one hour

1059
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Speaker 1: of books. When we come back, we've got to dive

1060
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Speaker 1: in with a Hall of Famer and a Texas Bowl

1061
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Speaker 1: Gridiron legend. Just announced this morning, Eric Dickerson, one of

1062
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: my all time favorite players of all time. Let's have

1063
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Speaker 1: a good conversation with Eric Dickerson. Next right here are

1064
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Speaker 1: Texans All Acts. Yes, sir, welcome back to a Friday

1065
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Speaker 1: edition at Texans All Access from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio.

1066
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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris Football and Sadeline Reporter

1067
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: for your Houston Texans. I also do a lot with

1068
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Speaker 1: long Star Sports and Entertainment in this week.

1069
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Speaker 3: Actually today Friday, Texas Ball.

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Speaker 1: Announced it's twenty twenty four Gridiron Legends Class Pro Football

1071
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer John Randall, Baylor Bear All American, James

1072
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Speaker 1: Francis All American.

1073
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Speaker 3: Kicker at Texas A and M. And yes he did kick.

1074
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Speaker 1: For the Patriots, but that's okay because Tony Franklin was

1075
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: a badass and legendary head football coach at Perland High School.

1076
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Speaker 1: One of the best's ever been in this city the state.

1077
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Speaker 1: Tony Heath and one final one and we're gonna talk

1078
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Speaker 1: to him in just a second Hall of Fame running

1079
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Speaker 1: back Sea Peely, Texas High Sealy High School, Sealy, Texas SMU, Rams, Colts, Raiders, Falcons,

1080
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Speaker 1: and absolute stud running back and we have the opportunity

1081
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Speaker 1: to talk to him. Eric Dickerson, He's inducted in the

1082
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: Pro Football Fame in nineteen ninety nine. At the time

1083
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Speaker 1: he set a record in the Southwest Conference with a

1084
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Speaker 1: career rushing mark of four thousand and four hund and fifty.

1085
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Speaker 3: Then, of course, the Southwest Conference dissolved.

1086
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Speaker 1: And we know kind of how it all went, but

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Speaker 1: we had a fantastic conversation with Eric Dickerson. One of

1088
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Speaker 1: the newest members of the Texas Bowl Gridiron Legends class

1089
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four.

1090
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Speaker 2: Joining us now is Eric Dickerson, one of the greatest

1091
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Speaker 2: running backs of all time and a new member of

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Speaker 2: the Texas Gridiron Legends class Eric, Mark and John with you.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have you with us. Congratulations on being

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Speaker 2: a Gridiron legend, one of the best full fotball players,

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Speaker 2: football people to come out of the state of Texas.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean to you when you hear that,

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Speaker 2: because I know Texas is important to you.

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00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I live in southern California, but I

1099
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 5: always tell the guys in California the best football players

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00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 5: come out of state of Texas, you know, and then

1101
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 5: they argue about that. But it's an honor for me.

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00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 5: You know, I grew up right here in Ceedy, Texas.

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00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 5: I happened to be in Suitor today, came down there

1104
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 5: to my house down in Sealy, and you know, I'm

1105
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 5: I live in southern cabin. I'm a Texas and I

1106
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 5: love that I had a chance to play high school

1107
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 5: football here in Texas and make my mark in Texas.

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00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, Mark, I haven't said this, and I'm not

1109
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: saying this just because Eric is on with us, right.

1110
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: I moved to Texas in nineteen eighty three, and I

1111
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: learned the legend of Eric Dickerson at that particular moment.

1112
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: Even though he was moving on to the NFL at

1113
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: that point. So he's one of my favorite running backs

1114
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: of all times. Eric I got asked this, where did

1115
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: your style, your running style emanate from, because it's a

1116
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: little different from other running backs.

1117
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you're six' three, you were a talk upright runner.

1118
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: Where did your kind of running style emanate from?

1119
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 5: Uh, I hate to stay the man upstairs. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know I didn't. It wasn't nothing I

1121
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,959
Speaker 5: tried to do. It was just it just that felt

1122
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 5: natural to me. And I think people always think that

1123
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Speaker 5: I ran upright all the time. Only time I was

1124
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 5: really upright was when I got into open field, like

1125
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 5: you know, it was time to really roll. I called it.

1126
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 5: I caught it time to roll now. Yeah, you know,

1127
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 5: coming through the line, I was taught. I'm six foot three,

1128
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Speaker 5: I was a big guy. You know, we had bigger

1129
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 5: pass back then. So sometimes it may seem that I

1130
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 5: was up high. But no, man, you know you run

1131
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 5: through that line straight up like that, you know you

1132
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 5: would get blasted. But my style was just it was

1133
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 5: it was a gift from God, to be honest with you, you.

1134
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Speaker 1: Know, I guess it just was that we were so

1135
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: used to seeing you out in the open field. Eat,

1136
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: you were getting that long, striding upright style. It's like

1137
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: you were just in the open field that much.

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00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 5: No, I doubt that.

1139
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 4: I don't think so, trust me.

1140
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 5: I look at I look at some of those some

1141
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 5: of those old feelings. I'm like, well, I was getting blasted.

1142
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Speaker 3: All right.

1143
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Speaker 2: Well, obviously you're a RAM, but you're also a cult.

1144
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: So when you look back, Eric, are you a RAM

1145
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: or a cult? You live in southern California, so I

1146
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: guess rams would be the answer. But what about your

1147
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: time in Indianapolis, which was significant?

1148
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'll say it was significant. But honestly,

1149
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 5: the only thing I liked about being in India is

1150
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 5: the guy of some of the few of the players

1151
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 5: that I met became friends with. And also, you know

1152
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 5: my old coach, Ron Meyer. That's why I ended up

1153
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 5: going there because of him. He brought me there. But

1154
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 5: you know the Honereymoon Indianapolis, you know that's back then

1155
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 5: I put it back there. That was a whole different area.

1156
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: I mean, would I want to do that all over? Now?

1157
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 5: I hate to say I wouldn't want to do that

1158
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 5: all over. I wish I could have stayed with La

1159
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 5: my whole career. But you know, back in those days, man,

1160
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 5: it was just so different. I mean they really could

1161
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 5: kind of delegate, you know, how they paid players. You know,

1162
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 5: we had no say so. I mean, I think people

1163
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 5: don't realize. You know, the year that I ran for

1164
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 5: two thousand yards, I was making one hundred and fifty

1165
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 5: thousand dollars and then I think that I held out

1166
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm the most ever made with your

1167
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 5: Ranams was three hundred, three hundred thousand. When I got

1168
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: to the Colts, you know, they gave me. They gave

1169
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 5: me what I wanted, a million five. But honestly, the

1170
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 5: big thing was the Redskins were trying to get me,

1171
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 5: and before I wanted to go that bag because my

1172
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 5: cousin was there, Dexon Manley was there, and so you know,

1173
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 5: it didn't work out. I didn't going to Indianapolis. But

1174
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 5: I'm a Ram, I really am. I'm a ram Pint.

1175
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 5: I worked for the team, so I'm always ready, though,

1176
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 5: I give you know, I did play for the Coats,

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00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 5: you know, and I thank them for for letting you,

1178
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 5: you know, spend some time there, you know, on that

1179
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 5: ring of honor. I'm in the ring of honor. But

1180
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 5: I'm a ram at heart.

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00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: Eric, I think you just made Mark's heart a flutter

1182
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: saying that you know you'd recognize more with the Rams

1183
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: and the Colts. That was just great news obviously for

1184
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: both of us. Eric, I guess said earlier. I moved

1185
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: to Texas nineteen eight three. I was eleven years old.

1186
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: I came from Wisconsin and I remember going my very

1187
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: first high school football game that I ever saw. I

1188
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: saw Harley Dykes from Bay City play against Thrman Thomas

1189
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Speaker 1: from Willer Ridge.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is a whole different world.

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Speaker 1: So when you're in when you're in southern California and

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00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 1: you get into conversations of people that are our age

1193
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: or they just want to know, hey, like, you know,

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00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: California high school football is pretty good. But what do

1195
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: you tell them about high school footballor just tech just

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00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: football in Texas? Cause obviously you played your college ball

1197
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: in Dallas. What do you tell them about Texas high

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Speaker 1: school and college football here?

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Speaker 5: You know what? Really I don't. I really don't have

1200
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 5: to because they know it's funny because my daughter went

1201
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Speaker 5: to Oast Christian, my son goes Oh he's only twelve.

1202
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 5: He doesn't play football yet it's tackle and they know

1203
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 5: that they I was asking me, so, tell me about

1204
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 5: Texas High School? Is it like they? Is it like

1205
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 5: what they say? You know, the Friday nights I saw, Yes,

1206
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 5: like that. I say, Like, I give an example. I say,

1207
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 5: on my little hometown, it was only two thousand people

1208
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 5: when I came through the city when I was in

1209
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 5: high school here, and uh, you know, it would be

1210
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 5: eight thousand people at the game. It was crazy. I mean,

1211
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 5: it really was. I was state championship game. You know.

1212
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 5: Once again, two thousand people here. I think it was

1213
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 5: like twenty five thousand people at that out state championship games.

1214
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 5: So you know, Texas high school football is a whole

1215
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 5: different level. It really is. And I think the people

1216
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 5: in southern California they know it. I mean, and I

1217
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: got to say most of them, most of them admitted.

1218
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 5: Now you're talking about Florida. Florida was they they think

1219
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 5: they got the best players, But we think we have

1220
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 5: the best players.

1221
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson joining us, Eric, what do you think of

1222
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: the whole nil thing in college?

1223
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: Now? I think you could speak with expertise on this.

1224
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: Like a lot of former players who played in another

1225
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: era of college football. But what you're seeing right now

1226
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Speaker 2: with the landscape of the college game, your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: Well, I look at the nil dealers. I always felt

1228
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 5: that the players should get something. I've always felt like that.

1229
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 5: I think the players are the ones doing the work,

1230
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: and you know, and it was almost like, and I'm

1231
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 5: not saying the beating over the back, you know, slavery,

1232
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 5: but it was like if I'm a slavery in a sense,

1233
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 5: because the players are doing all the work, and the

1234
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 5: establishment the college, the NCAA is making all the money.

1235
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 5: And back in our days, even if someone took you

1236
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 5: out to dinner, that was a violation or you know,

1237
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 5: when you're in college, you know, you didn't have We

1238
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 5: didn't have honey for for for they have dates and

1239
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff. So if the little bit

1240
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 5: of money we did get, you know from the alumni,

1241
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 5: you know, it wasn't it was not life changing. That's

1242
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 5: what I don't want. It's not and it wasn't gonna

1243
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 5: make you play harder. It doesn't work like it you

1244
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 5: play hard no matter what. I think it's great that

1245
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 5: those kids are beginning something for playing a sports they love.

1246
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 5: They can make, they can make It's life changing for

1247
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 5: a lot of these kids because everybody, every player is

1248
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 5: not going to the National Football League. Every player is

1249
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 5: not going into the NBA. So I'm glad that they're

1250
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 5: getting something for actually making the school money and making

1251
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 5: themselves money.

1252
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 4: We're talking with.

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00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson, hall of Fame running back, also a Texas

1254
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: bull gridiron legend. Uh, this is fun stuff to talk

1255
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: with Eric. Eric, we always talking Andre Ware about this

1256
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: particular aspect.

1257
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: When I'm gonna ask you.

1258
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: We talked about Dre and the University of Texas really

1259
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: not being all that high on recruiting Dre, and he

1260
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: kind of used that as a chip on his shoulder

1261
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: whenever he played the University of Texas. And we've seen

1262
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: and heard a lot about you're kind of the way

1263
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: that Texas treated you and when you went to SMU

1264
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: you wanted to beat the pants off everybody. But how

1265
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: special was it to have big games and beat up

1266
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: on the University of Texas the way you did back?

1267
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 5: Oh? Man, that's a great question. Man. I hate Texas.

1268
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I hate them, man. They're so damn arrogant

1269
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 5: over there, I swear, I mean, I think that's Whatculls me.

1270
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, they came to my house to recruit me,

1271
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 5: and not just me. They did another day, my friend

1272
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 5: Harvey Armstrong, who was my who back to recruited me

1273
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 5: to go to SMU, did the same thing to him.

1274
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 5: Came to my house. Fred Acres and I think three

1275
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 5: other coaches. I forgot the guy's name, but Harvard said

1276
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 5: his name a couple of weeks ago the coach's name,

1277
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 5: and I talked to him and they knew that I

1278
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 5: liked Oklahoma and USC and SMU is kind of my

1279
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 5: rate of and not really. And so the guy, one

1280
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 5: of the guys say, let me talk to the back

1281
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 5: let me talk in the back room, son. So I

1282
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 5: go to the back room with him in my in

1283
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 5: my mom's house, and he says, uh, so we we

1284
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 5: know you don't We know you're looking at USC, and

1285
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 5: so that's whay in southern California. You know it's a

1286
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 5: good school, but it's where fell the cow. And Oklahoma.

1287
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 5: We know you're like Oklahoma. But I'm just gonna tell you.

1288
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 5: You know, Barry switch to sleep with all his assisters wives.

1289
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like what, I'm like, I'm like, why,

1290
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 5: why are you telling me this and so uh. Then

1291
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 5: he said that's in you. He said, look, if you

1292
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 5: go ask me, they'll never do us. I'm gonna stand

1293
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 5: you right now and say one more things. Son. If

1294
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 5: you don't consider your state school when you get out

1295
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 5: of school, we'll make sure you don't get a job

1296
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 5: in the stay of the Texas. And I was like

1297
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 5: that that that that sent me back. I'm like, I said,

1298
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: really he said, he said yes. I said, you know

1299
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 5: what I told her as a young kid, and he

1300
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 5: was he was he was an adulte But I told him,

1301
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: I said, man, a few and I walked out and

1302
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 5: I went and told my mother, my mother, I said, mom,

1303
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 5: I said, you know, can you make them leave? And

1304
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 5: she said, well, okay, then what nice meet? And you gentlemen,

1305
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 5: you know she knew something that happened, right, and so

1306
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 5: she said when he leaves? She said what she said?

1307
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 5: What that man said to me back there? And I

1308
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 5: told her. She said, oh, hell no, you'll never go there,

1309
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 5: no problem. I wouldn't want to go that nowhere. And

1310
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: when I had a chance to stick it to ut man,

1311
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 5: I can't pull up for even a girls team. I

1312
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: can't pull for nothing texas. Matter of fact, somebody brought

1313
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 5: me an orange windbreak. It was nice. It was orange. Well, dog,

1314
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, I cannot wear this. I cannot wear

1315
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 5: this orange. So I just can't. I can't stay in Texas.

1316
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sorry.

1317
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so funny because we've heard it from Andre side,

1318
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: Eric for all these years. You know about you know

1319
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: how Texas talked to him and recruiting and kind of

1320
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: the same thing, and so he wanted to stick it

1321
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: to Texas so bad. And so when I've heard your story,

1322
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: it's like a really similar story. So I figured we

1323
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: had to talk about that for sure.

1324
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: All right, SMU, how much does it blow your mind

1325
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: that SMU is in the acc.

1326
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 5: Eric, Well, I'm gonna tell you this, really, man, this

1327
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 5: should have happened thirty years ago. They should have been

1328
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 5: a major conference. They really should have. I mean, I

1329
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 5: got it. Some of the blame is on SNU, it

1330
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 5: really is, because they would not let go of that

1331
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 5: death penalty. They kept talking about the death pending like

1332
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 5: it happened yesterday. I mean, and it was it was

1333
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 5: just frustrating. Like at one point because I was over

1334
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 5: there some I had a thing that's in it yesterday

1335
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 5: and they talked about the death thing like it was

1336
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 5: like it was just like it just happened, just happened.

1337
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 5: And finally, I mean at one point, I said, look,

1338
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 5: if they're not serious about football, just get rid of

1339
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 5: it all together. Just shut it down, because I said,

1340
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 5: it's embarrassing either way we're getting beat. I said, it's

1341
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 5: embarrassing for the players. Say, these young players come to SMU,

1342
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 5: they go out to play football. They don't have the

1343
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: they don't have the same talent these other teams have.

1344
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 5: They getting beat fifty to three, fifty to nothing, ninety

1345
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 5: six to seven. I said, that's no fun for those kids.

1346
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 5: I said, it's not fair. And you know they some

1347
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 5: of them blomb that they wouldn't happy with it, but

1348
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 5: I'm just telling the truth. I mean, it was the truth.

1349
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 5: But now finally, and I mean finally, they finally let

1350
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 5: that death penalty crap go and embracing you know what

1351
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 5: happened years ago with us and everybody else was doing

1352
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 5: it to Texas and in Arkansas, Bayley, USC, Oklahoma, all

1353
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 5: of them are doing it. Uh and they're in I

1354
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 5: think a very good conference. We have a very good coach.

1355
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 5: And one thing I've seen now now I saw it

1356
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 5: last year. We finally are getting athletes, real athletes, not

1357
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 5: guys that really, I hate to say, shouldn't have been

1358
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 5: playing college football because they just couldn't compete on that level.

1359
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 5: It's no offense to them, they couldn't compete on that level.

1360
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 5: I give a quick story. We were playing Baylor. Me

1361
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 5: and my friend Harvey was at the game and the

1362
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 5: Baylor team came on the field and I'm like, these

1363
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 5: guys look like like like me, like NFL player, and

1364
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 5: how our team came out and I'm like, man, you

1365
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 5: got to be kidding me. I say, we look like

1366
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 5: we look like not even we look like a middle

1367
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 5: school teams those guys, and they beat the pants off

1368
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 5: of ITU. So, like I said, finally, I'm really proud

1369
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 5: of my school. They really embraced the you know, the

1370
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 5: winning way. Finally they're going back there trying to win

1371
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 5: football games and doing what it takes. That's what it takes,

1372
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 5: you mean, if you if you want to if you

1373
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 5: want to win football games, you got to be all in.

1374
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1375
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And as boy, you talk about some athletes now

1376
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 3: and the.

1377
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Other thing Eric they're doing too is he's done a

1378
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: really nice job of recruiting Dallas. Now, I know we're

1379
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: from Houston, so the Houston Dallas thing, I get all that.

1380
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: But he's recruited Dallas. His quarterback came from Southolk Cliff.

1381
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: And he's a player. I mean, number seven Kevin Jennings

1382
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 1: is an absolute player. I gotta ask you this before

1383
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: we let you go. I don't know how much ball

1384
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: you get to watch college, pro, et cetera. And there

1385
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: really isn't. There aren't a lot of backs that run

1386
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: like you. But is there a running back or a

1387
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: player that you really enjoy watching when you get a

1388
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: chance to watch NFL on Sundays, Mondays, whatever it might be,

1389
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: Do you have a guy that you like watching?

1390
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 5: You know, really, I don't really like watching football. Yeah,

1391
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 5: I really don't anymore. I mean, I just like playing.

1392
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 5: I never did like watching it. But if it's a

1393
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 5: guy I want to watch. I like watching Derrick Henry

1394
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 5: because he's a big like me. He's a big back,

1395
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 5: you know, and Ah and Pisa played he's a big back.

1396
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 4: Yep.

1397
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 5: I like the bigger guy. I like the guys over

1398
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 5: six foot tall sixty three six y two. I mean,

1399
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 5: because those guys they don't play down the punishment. I mean,

1400
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 5: you watch Derrick Henry, those defensive back seeing the linebackers

1401
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 5: sometimes they're like, hey, we don't want to have to

1402
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 5: tackle them by mysel ourselves. We need some help over here. Yeah,

1403
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 5: so I I do like watching Derek Henry play.

1404
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 3: All right, one more for you, Eric.

1405
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: Outside of your playing career, you've done a lot of

1406
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: entertainment stuff. You've done Monday Night Football, You've been an analyst,

1407
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: You've done The New Celebrity Apprentice, You've done Hawaii fi all,

1408
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: I mean swat.

1409
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: The list goes on.

1410
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: What was your favorite non football entertainment thing to do

1411
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: in your post playing career?

1412
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 5: Wow, man, no one has ever asked me that question.

1413
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 5: I never even thought about it. Oh, enjoyed it?

1414
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question.

1415
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 5: Uh. I don't, man, I don't even know. I mean

1416
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 5: I enjoyed doing some of the shows, like I just

1417
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 5: it was fun. And we just did The Golden Bachelor,

1418
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and Andre Reid and man, I don't watch

1419
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 5: those shows. I got so many calls people, man, whis

1420
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 5: mostly wives call it and the Hills. Man. My wife

1421
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 5: watching on this in the Golden bathroom here with my cousin,

1422
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 5: and she said she saw she saw me. I mean,

1423
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 5: I would say some of the shows, you know, some

1424
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 5: of the shows they're fun to do. They really even

1425
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 5: some of the actors are like I did a WiFi

1426
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 5: five because I love Hawaii. So my favorite places, I mean,

1427
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 5: I just like I said, I can't think of one

1428
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 5: in particular. But I gotta say this. You asked me

1429
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 5: that question. I'm have to think about that if someone

1430
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 5: ever asked me again, because that's a great question. No

1431
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 5: one's ever asked me that.

1432
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 3: I love how you say that. Yeah, my my wife

1433
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 3: was watching the show. Man. You know all your friends

1434
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 3: are watching that show with their wives.

1435
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 5: We all know. We all know that.

1436
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 3: Man.

1437
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 5: Man, come on, man, you know me and me and

1438
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 5: I don't want you to watch the show. If you

1439
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 5: still watch about your wife, you forced to like.

1440
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, dear involuntary Well, Eric, thanks so much for

1441
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: joining us. Congratulations, I mean a Texas bull Gridiron legend.

1442
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: We appreciate the time.

1443
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 5: Hey, thank you guys, Thank you very much.

1444
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: Man.

1445
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: That was a fun conversation with Eric Dickerson. Loved hearing

1446
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: him laugh.

1447
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 3: Man. I can just see the look on his face. Man.

1448
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: He was one of my favorites growing up. Gil Sayers.

1449
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson loved this style. Then when I moved to Houston,

1450
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: I realized Sealy was, you know, so close to Houston.

1451
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: I just did more background digging on Eric Dickerson. Just

1452
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: love going back and watching the old Sealy High school

1453
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: tapes too. Man, what a rock star. And again one

1454
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: of the Texas Bowl grid airon Legends class at twenty

1455
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: twenty four Dickerson, John Randall, James Francis from Baylor, Tony Franklin,

1456
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: kicker at A and M All American Pro Bowl, New

1457
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: England Patriots kicker and head football coach at.

1458
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: Peryland High School, the great Tony heath Man. That was fun.

1459
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: What's also fun is when I get a chance to

1460
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: pick games straight up and against the spread. We got

1461
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: games in London, we got games in New England actually, Foxboro, Massachusetts,

1462
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: and plenty of other places. I will pick them all

1463
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: straight up and against the spread for fun, for fun.

1464
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: We'll do that next right here in Texans All Access. Man,

1465
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: I love the bye weeks, well kind of sort of.

1466
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: It just means I've got two fewer games to pick

1467
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: right here on Texans All Access. This is my favorite

1468
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: segment where I get to pick games straight up and

1469
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: against the spread for fun, for fun, absolutely nothing but

1470
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: fun right here. So we gotta get rolling because we

1471
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: do have a lot of games, even though we've got

1472
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: teams on buys this week. We've gotta go Vikings and

1473
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: Chiefs both on a bye this week. So we gotta

1474
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: rock ready, give my music ready, and let's go, starting

1475
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: in London at Tottenham, where the Jaguars will be the

1476
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: visitor and the Bears are the home team. The Bears

1477
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: played well last week against the Panthers. Jaguars got it going.

1478
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: Bears scored thirty six, Jaguars scored thirty seven. Oh, there

1479
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: could be points scored in this game, but I'm going

1480
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears to lose this game the favyby one.

1481
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: So it's basically I'm taking straight up, so I'm taking

1482
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Jaguars in London have been something special special.

1483
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: Last year they beat the Bills and then they won

1484
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: the second game. I can't remember what the second game was,

1485
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: but they won both over there in London. I think

1486
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: they'll win both again, starting with the Bears on Sunday

1487
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: at eight thirty am Central Time. Commanders Ravens is a

1488
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: tremendous ballgame. Ravens are favored by six and a half,

1489
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: basically a touchdown at home. I think the Ravens are

1490
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: going to smoke the Commanders. Yeah, it's been nice. Jay

1491
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: and Daniels has been a great story. But you run

1492
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: into the Ravens. The Ravens can make mincemeat of a

1493
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback.

1494
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 3: CJ.

1495
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: Straub knows that a lot of other rookies know that.

1496
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: I going Ravens. Dereck Henry and Lamar Jackson are back

1497
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: in a groove. Ravens winning cover that six and a half.

1498
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: Brown's Eagles, Oh boy. I mentioned earlier that the Browns

1499
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: offense is the worst in the league, two hundred and

1500
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: thirty nine yards per game, the worst in the league.

1501
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: They're going to Philly. They're nine and a half point dogs.

1502
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a blowout. Eagles are gonna win

1503
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: this thing by three touchdowns. They're coming off a bye.

1504
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: I think I want to say it's over, but the

1505
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: Browns just can't do it. The Browns, you have got

1506
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: to continue to play Sean Watson and it will kill them,

1507
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: it will destroy them.

1508
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 3: Eagles win.

1509
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: Eagles cover that nine and a half Cardinals going to

1510
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: Green Bay to taking on Packers.

1511
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 3: Packers favored by five.

1512
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: Cardinals played really well last week in San Francisco getting

1513
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: that win. Packers gotta get to win at home. They

1514
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: desperately need this win. They got to win at LA

1515
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: last week. Packers are gonna win this and win I

1516
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: would say big, but they're gonna win this by ten.

1517
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: Hopefully the Cardinals soften them up for us the following week,

1518
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: but Packers win and cover that five Bucks and Saints.

1519
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: Bucks had to get out of the way of Hurricane Milton,

1520
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: so they took off on Tuesday. And I know that

1521
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: could really wrecavoc on a team, but it can also

1522
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: bring them closer together.

1523
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 3: Saints have been struggling.

1524
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: Monday night short week, lost that game against the Chiefs,

1525
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: and Spencer Rattler will start for the Saints for that reason.

1526
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 7: I like Rattler.

1527
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 3: I do be for that reason. The Buccaneers are gonna

1528
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 3: win this thing by more than three and a half.

1529
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: Their favored by three and a half to win and

1530
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: cover for the road favorite Tampay Buccaneers Colts Titans.

1531
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 3: Hope they both. I hope they tie. I'd like to

1532
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 3: see a tie like three to three. Just the most

1533
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 3: boring game ever. But I can't really pick that. I

1534
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: don't know the status Anthony Richardson. Do you know the

1535
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: status johnthan Taylor, he's out Pittman. Don't know the status

1536
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: of him.

1537
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: I think Titans come off by they are gonna be frisky.

1538
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Titans at home to

1539
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: get both these teams. Colts will go to two and four.

1540
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: Titans we go to two and three. Titans are favor

1541
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: by two and a half, so Vegas thinks.

1542
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 3: That Colts are just a tad bit better.

1543
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 10: But at home.

1544
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 3: Not know the status of Anthony Richardson. I don't know

1545
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 3: what to do with this game.

1546
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: Let's go Titans. Let's go Titans to win it. Let's

1547
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: not cheer for the Titans. Let's go Titans to win

1548
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: it just because they're at home. Chargers Broncos. Broncos have

1549
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: been playing really well, especially at home. They are a

1550
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: three point dog at home. I'm taking the Broncos at

1551
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: home to beat the Chargers. I know the Chargers played

1552
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: well the first couple of games. Everybody's all, oh, Jim Harball.

1553
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: No Broncos are gonna play well again at home and

1554
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: get this win over the Chargers and charges of fair

1555
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: by three, so little home upset for the Broncos, Steelers Raiders.

1556
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Russell Wilson, who cares justin fields. We

1557
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: played quarterback for the Steelers against the Raiders. This could

1558
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: be the last one if he doesn't play well. The

1559
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: Raiders have had some moments and Aidan O'Connell will start

1560
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. That gives the Raiders a little bit

1561
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: of an edge, but not enough. Steelers are a three

1562
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: point dog, but I think they're gonna win this thing,

1563
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: and I think they're I think they're gonna win a three.

1564
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: But I gotta pick one. Sogo Pittsburgh to win and

1565
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: cover Lions Cowboys. Great game Sunday afternoon. I believe Tom

1566
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: Brady would be calling that game again. Detroit's favored by

1567
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: three and a half in Detroit. Cowboys are beat up,

1568
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: but they got a big win. Sometimes that big win

1569
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: kind of gets you going. But the lines are come

1570
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: off a bye. Lines are gonna be fresh. I think

1571
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: the line's gonna win this, but I think it's gonna

1572
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: be under three and a half. So let's go Lines

1573
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: to win. Cowboys to cover Falcons Panthers Sunday afternoon as well.

1574
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: H the Falcons are favored by six on the road.

1575
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: They'll win that easily and cover the six Bengals. Giants, God,

1576
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of either team, to

1577
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Since that is favored by four

1578
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: in New York, you know, let's go Giants, upset of

1579
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals and win that thing out right.

1580
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 3: And then Monday night, Bill's Jets Buffalos faired by two

1581
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 3: and a hal half.

1582
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: The Jets had all kinds of well, you know, up

1583
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: and down, Robert Salas out, and now you've got a

1584
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: new play caller and Todd Downing and Aaron Rodgers, and

1585
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1586
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of the Jets.

1587
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: I think the Bills a circle of wagons might be

1588
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: without James Cook, but I think they'll be fine. Josh

1589
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: Allen will lead the Jets to defeat. He'll lead the

1590
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: Bills to a win. So let's go with Bills to

1591
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: win and cover the two and a half on the road.

1592
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: I like road favorites this week. And you just heard

1593
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: it right there. Okay, we got a field with Friday,

1594
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: so that means we got to close it down with

1595
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: our guy to meet Go Ryants.

1596
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 3: He is next right here in Texans All Access.

1597
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: We go one final segment of this initiation of Texans

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01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: All Access from None to Texans Radio Studio.

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01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 3: I am your host, John Harris Football and a sideline reporter,

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01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 3: So glad to be with you. And it's a feel

1601
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 3: good Friday. We started this probably at the end of

1602
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 3: last year.

1603
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: I love doing this because nothing really makes you feel

1604
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: better than hearing from the man himself, the Meco Ryans.

1605
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: He's all he's got a positive vibe, especially when he's

1606
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: on the radio with us. So we thought, you know what,

1607
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: let's bring back our conversation between he and Mark and

1608
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: myself from earlier this week. We talked about the Bills game,

1609
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: a great, great anecdote about Aziz al Shire, talking about

1610
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots.

1611
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 3: Really good time with Demko Ryans.

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: Take a listen joining us right now, winning head coach

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01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: Demiko Ryans, coach, congratulations on the latest victory.

1614
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you. Exciting one for us, so we're

1615
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 7: fired up about it.

1616
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're getting a little too exciting, but it's a

1617
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: great thing. Coach, What does it say about your team?

1618
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: All the poise you have down the stretch. They're not

1619
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: letting things unravel when some mistakes were made, but you

1620
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: pulled it together, made big plays to pull out the win.

1621
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 6: They're really proud of our team for taking that step

1622
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 6: in the growth growth field right there. I mean, we

1623
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 6: stood up, guys, were calm, even though that was a

1624
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 6: hectic situation. Right, A lot of things had to go

1625
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 6: right for us. Nobody panic like. We needed to get

1626
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 6: stops there. Defensively, guys, we're exactly where they're supposed to be.

1627
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 6: We got the stops, offense were able to execute, and

1628
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 6: special teams, I mean when we needed it most all right,

1629
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 6: for Tom punting the ball, getting us in a backed

1630
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 6: up op and then on the flip side for the

1631
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 6: defense to hold him, and for Rob to get the

1632
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 6: return to get us across midfield. Just excellent execution. And

1633
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 6: of course for Emy to go ahead and kick the

1634
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 6: game winners. Big time plays.

1635
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 3: Coach.

1636
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: Defensively, Josh goes nine point thirty, and we talked about

1637
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 1: this a little bit after the game went. I'll go

1638
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: ahead to it a little bit more. Your defense just

1639
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: seeming me all day didn't make things comfortable for him.

1640
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: You know, you got a couple of scrambles. He's gonna

1641
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: do that, but I just felt like you guys made

1642
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: it very uncomfortable for him, whether it was just guys

1643
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: at his feet making him move.

1644
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 3: When he moved, there were guys still there.

1645
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: There was one time he rolled right and his Z's

1646
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: like ran him down and forced him to throw it away.

1647
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: What was kind of key in getting Josh kind of

1648
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: off really his rhythm all.

1649
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 7: Day, and the key is started with the coverage this time.

1650
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 6: A lot of time I taught Russ and car They

1651
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 6: started with the coverage and the way our guys played

1652
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,919
Speaker 6: on the back end, like stan Lee, kamari E, Murray Petrie,

1653
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 6: all the guys were sticky and coverage so as to

1654
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 6: play a little bit more man coverage and guys.

1655
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,480
Speaker 7: Were sticky, and then D line and linebackers.

1656
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 6: We kind of we knew we weren't gonna get a

1657
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 6: lot of sacks versus him, so it's just gonna be

1658
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 6: about just putting applying constant pressure heat, chasing him out

1659
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 6: of the pocket. We knew he always loved to escape

1660
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 6: to our defensive left, so we knew he would escape

1661
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 6: that way. And Z's had a couple of really nice

1662
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 6: effort plays and chasing him down. Mario Edwards another he

1663
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 6: had two great effort plays chasing them down. Like our

1664
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 6: guys needed to run. Our guys needed to swarm all

1665
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 6: day and not let up and be relentless. And that's

1666
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 6: what caused the disruption to Josh. It was just the

1667
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 6: d line continuing to work and press and not get

1668
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 6: Sometimes d Lion gets frustrated right when you're not getting sacks.

1669
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 6: It's like, oh man, I was closed, so but going

1670
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 6: in if you already know that's not gonna happen, and

1671
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 6: you just keep going no matter what, keep going, keep going,

1672
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 6: keep going. I thought, really, they don't get highlighted for this,

1673
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 6: but Will and Dannel on the edges like this is

1674
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 6: one of their best games of the year. The way

1675
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 6: they attacked, the way they won around the edge, and

1676
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 6: we had really good pocket pulls from our interior guys.

1677
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 6: That was improvement that we were seeking and we got

1678
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 6: it this game. And it was really We had a

1679
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 6: lot of great pictures of the pocket just collapsing on Josh,

1680
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 6: and when he tried to throw the ball in the pocket,

1681
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 6: we were attacking his throwing arm. So those guys had

1682
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 6: a ton of pressures. Think it was like sixteen eighteen

1683
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 6: pressures on the quarterback.

1684
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 7: It was just a really great effort.

1685
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 3: Johnny talked about Will and Daniels, so you got some credittor.

1686
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they didn't move the ball an inch after

1687
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: the second turnover because they were at the fifteen, forced

1688
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: the field goal try at the three. They don't get anything.

1689
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 2: And that was big because it felt like there was

1690
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: no margin for error anymore. Right, you had the intentional grounding, okay,

1691
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 2: whatever happened there, but you got it down of the three.

1692
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 2: No margin for error and CJ's little past to Dara

1693
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: as well, just to get it to fifty nine yards

1694
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 2: as opposed to whatever.

1695
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 7: Right it was.

1696
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 6: It was zero margin for ERA, and when it's in

1697
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 6: that moment sometimes got you know, you kind of tense

1698
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 6: up a little bit. But I didn't feel that from

1699
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 6: anybody defensively, Like guys, I mean, we had our last play.

1700
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 6: Eight plays on defense, there was zero yard games for them.

1701
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 6: Everybody just did their job, was where they're supposed to be.

1702
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 6: And then like the margin for ERA was very slim.

1703
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 6: And then no play is bigger than like Rob's getting

1704
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 6: thirteen yards on the punt return at the right amount

1705
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 6: of time.

1706
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 7: To give us seven seconds. We got the time out.

1707
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 10: CJ.

1708
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 6: We're trying to throw their quick pass, a quick slant

1709
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 6: the digs. Their defense did a great job, but taking

1710
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 6: that away, no.

1711
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 7: Kind of knowing what was coming.

1712
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 6: But for CJ to have the mindset and wherewith all

1713
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 6: the fine Dara and Dark just get a couple more yards.

1714
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 5: It was.

1715
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 6: It was very excellently, excellently played by everybody, and we

1716
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 6: got it the time that we needed.

1717
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 7: The time was just right.

1718
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 4: It was.

1719
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:54,879
Speaker 7: Everything went really.

1720
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 6: Really well for us, from when they punted the ball

1721
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 6: to when Rob received it.

1722
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: Remember the first time you use the word swarm, and

1723
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: immediately when you use the word swarm, we've talked about

1724
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: a little bit that you think about on the field,

1725
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: guys attacking the football always around. You think about it

1726
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: as kind of a defensive mentality, and obviously you played defense,

1727
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: so you would think it kind of comes from there.

1728
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 3: But I'm starting to think that swarm is more a

1729
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 3: mentality on and off the field. And when I think

1730
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 3: of that, I think of a Zase yesterday.

1731
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 1: I think AZ's personifies that because I'm not totally sure

1732
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: that he was one thousand percent.

1733
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 3: I don't even know if he's seventy five percent.

1734
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: But when you watch the film back, I don't know

1735
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: if you saw in real time, and maybe obviously you did,

1736
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: but when you look back on film, like holy Cow,

1737
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: look at the plays he's making, and I think about

1738
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: being sick and running after Josh Allen and making the

1739
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: plays that he was able to make. Run after Josh

1740
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: Allen to me kind of speaks to that swarm mentality

1741
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: of you're not keeping me off the field.

1742
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 3: What do we have to do to win this game?

1743
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm sick, I've got to take IVS or whatever it is,

1744
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go out there and play for my brothers.

1745
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 1: Is that kind of the way you looked at disease

1746
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: And how much does his performance mean to that defense

1747
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: and to you?

1748
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, swarm is definitely. It's a mentality, right. It's not

1749
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 6: on the field, but it's off the field too. Is

1750
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 6: how you tell guys, this is about how you're attacking

1751
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 6: the recovery phase of the week. How are you attacking

1752
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 6: your nutrition? How are you attacking are your rehab everything?

1753
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 5: Like?

1754
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 6: Are you just relentless? Like are you a is your

1755
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 6: work ethic the second to none? And everything that you

1756
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 6: do and that's what it takes to be a real pro.

1757
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 6: A true pro has to swarm the the things that

1758
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 6: are off the field right to give you the best

1759
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 6: chance to be your best on the field.

1760
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 7: So disease, he definitely represents that.

1761
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 6: Epitomizes that swarm mentality about what he was able to

1762
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 6: do in the game on yesterday, And and I think

1763
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 6: I gave him a little bit even more firepower because

1764
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 6: in the first that first drive, it wasn't all clean right,

1765
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 6: And I say, hey, man, I'm taking you out of

1766
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 6: this game, like you're gonna sit down if we can't

1767
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 6: get it cleaned up.

1768
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 7: And you know, we had some.

1769
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 6: Words there on the side, and he got it clean up,

1770
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 6: started chasing jobs a little bit faster.

1771
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 3: Coach, have you ever played while sick?

1772
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 5: And what is that like?

1773
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: I imagine it had to happen to you at some point.

1774
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 7: I can't remember, not like Azaz.

1775
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 6: It's nothing to the degree where I had to get

1776
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 6: IVS pumped in and nothing to that degree. So I

1777
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 6: don't know what's that, what it's like to be in

1778
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 6: that position, but I know it's it's gussy to just

1779
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 6: be it. Most guys would tap out right in this

1780
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 6: Spies like, man I was in the emergency room right,

1781
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 6: most guys saying no, he's out for the game. But

1782
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 6: when I text disease, when he's like, oh, don't worry, coach,

1783
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 6: I'm playing.

1784
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 3: Has that mentality.

1785
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about this positive attitude, and

1786
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: you were just saying something about, hey, guys get frustrated

1787
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: when they don't get to the quarterback, but just know

1788
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: that it's a contribution and looking for those silver linings,

1789
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 2: those positive things in all situations. But it feels like

1790
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: the guys are feeding off of that. How do you

1791
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 2: instill that or get that across to them? What is

1792
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 2: the key as you're coaching that.

1793
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 6: The key it's always you go back and watch the

1794
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 6: film and you have to show guys as well, like

1795
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 6: what like even though you're not making that play, watch

1796
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 6: how it allowed your teammate to make a play.

1797
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 7: Watch how it affected the entire right defense or the

1798
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 7: entire offense.

1799
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 6: Sometimes you have to teach guys that it's not always

1800
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 6: about you and your production and your interceptions or your people.

1801
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 6: It's about the team collectively, like suffocating an opponent, and

1802
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 6: that's what it looks like when everybody is playing together,

1803
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 6: doing their job and executing like that. And that's what

1804
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 6: the d Lion had to understand. And I think when

1805
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 6: they understood that, they had more freedom and it felt like, oh,

1806
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 6: like I got a breath of fresh air.

1807
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 4: I can just go.

1808
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 7: Nobody's criticizing me on getting the quarterback down.

1809
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 3: One more thing on that. Do you think they expect

1810
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 3: to win?

1811
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: They have that expectation because we've seen teams that have

1812
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 2: things happen and oh my gosh, and here it is.

1813
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: And look, it's not like you're gonna go seventeen and zero.

1814
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 2: But is there an expectation that's sort of a result

1815
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: of that positive thinking for the squad?

1816
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 7: It definitely is.

1817
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 6: I think every time you line up for our guys

1818
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 6: as we go throughout the week, that week of practice

1819
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 6: and everything is about gaining confidence. You don't just show

1820
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 6: up with that confidence on Sunday, but it's how was

1821
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 6: your preparation If.

1822
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 7: You prepare the right way, you study the right way,

1823
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 7: Like I know for.

1824
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 6: Me as a coach, my confidence just it continues to

1825
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 6: build as the week goes on, right, and it builds,

1826
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 6: it builds to I know when I go out and

1827
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 6: see our guys warm up on Sunday and I can

1828
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,799
Speaker 6: see how they're bouncing around, got a really good, feel

1829
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 6: good energy about them. Like then you have that kind

1830
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 6: of sense of that quiet confidence. But they prepare well

1831
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 6: all week, they're locked in on game day and they

1832
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 6: expect to win. And that's what it should be every

1833
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 6: single game that we're in. We should expect to win

1834
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 6: because we put the work in. Not just because of

1835
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 6: what we did in the past, but it's because because

1836
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 6: of how you work each week.

1837
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: So you mentioned it didn't have a lot of sacks.

1838
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: Do you remember the sack that that you got defensively?

1839
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 1: Do you remember that one?

1840
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 11: I do?

1841
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 3: Okay, do you remember how you got it? It's Khlil Davis.

1842
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1843
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 3: I looked over and I'm gonna, I'm gonnambarrass.

1844
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: You a little bit maybe, but I could see you

1845
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: out of my peripheral vision and I saw you doing

1846
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: something in front of your face like this, and I

1847
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he knows what's coming.

1848
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: But you stopped.

1849
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you got some signal from

1850
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: the guys like hey, we know, but they ran they

1851
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: were about to run screen and you had it picked out.

1852
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: What was it about that particular play? Was it some formation?

1853
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 3: Was it something that you saw.

1854
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: You've told us often that you watch film up until

1855
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: you walk down to go out to the field.

1856
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 3: When did you kind of have a feeling?

1857
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 6: Okay, I know what kind of knew what's coming with

1858
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 6: that play, and I knew it was coming with that

1859
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 6: play being in that particular field zone in the red

1860
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 6: zone area, they aligned in empty formation. When they align

1861
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 6: it empty and we had kind of a look on

1862
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 6: where we checked to this empty formation, and I seen

1863
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 6: Josh make a check and then I knew, okay, this

1864
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 6: is their screenplay, right, And I was trying to tell

1865
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 6: that they probably they're not listening to me, so I

1866
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 6: stopped yelling so I can say my voice so hopefully

1867
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 6: can see me.

1868
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 7: I was trying to alert them that they were running screen.

1869
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 6: So Petrie did a really nice job of really firing

1870
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 6: to set the edge, and I think that froze Josh

1871
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 6: because he really he wanted to throw it. That frozen

1872
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 6: when Petrie triggered, and then Khalil, he just kept working.

1873
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 3: Wasn't pretty.

1874
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 6: He just kept working, kept working, and then we ended

1875
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 6: up with a really nice picture there of all four

1876
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 6: d linemen.

1877
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 7: We ra actually in on the quarterback.

1878
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 2: So Nico goes out after that sixty seven yard touchdown reception.

1879
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: How hard is it to adjust the game plan within

1880
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 2: the course of an afternoon. There you are the first half,

1881
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: and I would imagine coach he figured prominently in the

1882
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: rest of the game plan throughout the day. So now

1883
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you don't have him, how do

1884
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: you go about dealing with that?

1885
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 3: You and Bobby? As far as game planning without Nico, it's.

1886
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 6: So tough, man, because you have so many play designs

1887
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 6: that are specifically for Nico, especially. We love getting Nico

1888
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 6: the ball on the perimeter with the screens and then

1889
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 6: he can also so of course take the take the

1890
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 6: top off the defense as well. So you know, Bobby

1891
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 6: did a great job of adjustin like we also have

1892
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 6: this guy Stefan Diggs who can make a few plays,

1893
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 6: and think Steph.

1894
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 7: He stepped up big.

1895
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 6: Time for us, especially on third down, like he has

1896
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 6: so many I think five or six of his catches

1897
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 6: went for first downs and a few of those were

1898
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 6: on third down. So just having other playmakers like Steph,

1899
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 6: like Tank, Dalton Darray, it was just the ball just

1900
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 6: was able to be spread around even more so without

1901
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 6: having Nico and the guys on those opportunities when they

1902
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 6: had their number.

1903
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: Call coach, I'm convinced there are two situations that that

1904
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: happened in a game that can fire a team up.

1905
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: And one of them is a big hit somebody comes

1906
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: up with a big block or it's a big tackle,

1907
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's a big hit, and also a bomb.

1908
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: I feel like those two because it's an explosive situation.

1909
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: One way, it's an explosive situation the other. I looked

1910
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: at the three drives after Nico's touchdown, five place, thirteen yards,

1911
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: nine places thirty five three for nothing. It was punt, punt,

1912
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: punt the rest of the second quarter. After Nico did

1913
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: that that, you guys did that to the Bills defense.

1914
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: How much did that kind of charge you guys on defense?

1915
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 5: Like?

1916
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like how much you get a charge of that

1917
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: defensively when a big play like that happens.

1918
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 6: Oh, our guys, they man, they were fired up. I

1919
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 6: mean that that energy everybody feels. It's not just off,

1920
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 6: it's our entire team and everybody knows the playmaker that

1921
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 6: Nico is, so it encouraged everybody.

1922
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 7: I talked about our team.

1923
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 6: We need to have some enthusiasm right, and that's that's

1924
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 6: that created the enthusiasm from us executing that explosive play,

1925
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 6: even more so because we talked about this Bill's defense

1926
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 6: where they don't give up explosive plays and it's going

1927
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 6: to be really difficult for us to make explosive plays.

1928
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 7: And then Nico just comes out of nowhere.

1929
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 6: CJ threw such a beautiful pass right for CJ to

1930
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 6: drop it off to Nico there, and the defense feels

1931
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 6: that they're more excited than the offense. They're going crazy

1932
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 6: and they go out and they are still They're thriving

1933
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 6: off of that energy that Nico fueled them with.

1934
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 7: So it's just it's a team effort.

1935
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 6: And whenever you make big plays, whether it's I mean

1936
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 6: Rod's return, I think that's another one, just all these

1937
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 6: energy giving plays that show up to spark our entire team.

1938
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 2: So CJ had another good game, had the turnovers though,

1939
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: but you mentioned how calm he is. He shakes that

1940
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: off rather easily. You probably don't even have to tell

1941
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: him anything. How do you go about that?

1942
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 6: It's easy working with him because he knows. He knows

1943
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 6: that instantly, he knows the mistake that he made, He

1944
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 6: knows what should have happened, right, And even on the

1945
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 6: one play with the fumble there, it's just it's always

1946
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 6: it's not just one person right when the turnover happens.

1947
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 6: So you know the one that he fumbled there, you know,

1948
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 6: we don't run the right route and so he's looking

1949
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 6: to throw a quick game and we're not on the route,

1950
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 6: so he has to pull the ball down unexpectedly and

1951
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 6: then he fumbles the ball so that one's not on him.

1952
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 6: And the other turnover there, that defender made a great

1953
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 6: play on Dalton kind of fell off on Dalton got

1954
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 6: into the second window. Really nice play by the defender there.

1955
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 6: Don't want to, you know, throw that ball to the

1956
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 6: other team. You want to take it down that point

1957
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:12,959
Speaker 6: you just take a sack.

1958
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 7: Or try to run with it.

1959
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 6: But the way he bounced back, I think that's what

1960
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 6: makes a great player after mistakes or after mistakes have happened,

1961
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 6: Like what's your resolve? Like how do you respond? And

1962
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 6: CJ is cool, cool, that's the other side of the pillow.

1963
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 6: He's just man, he's so calm, and you sometimes lose

1964
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 6: sight of how young of a player that CJ is.

1965
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 6: But he's like a veteran's like, I've been here before,

1966
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 6: I've done it. That's not going to affect me moving forward.

1967
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 6: And he shows that time and time again every game.

1968
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 1: Coach, I'll ask you a question. First part is question

1969
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: to ask ind this morning as well and Oscar. Second

1970
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: part that's built off of that, what was it like

1971
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: for you as a player when you played your former team?

1972
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: And the second part of that strict down played all week?

1973
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: You know, look, it's Bill's time, It's not Steph against

1974
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: his former team all of that, but it's pretty clear

1975
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: in the locker room afterwards Steph there was emotion in

1976
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: that game for him. So the second part is how'd

1977
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: you kind of downplayer get him to kind of like

1978
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: and Tim too playing the Bills as well, Tim Settle,

1979
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 1: how'd you kind of get them be like, hey, just

1980
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: focusing on.

1981
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 3: The game, worry about all the don't worry about all

1982
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 3: the other stuff.

1983
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 1: How do you kind of get them focused playing against

1984
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: their former team?

1985
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 6: Yea, there's it's always a big deal when you play

1986
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 6: your former team because you know, however you parted ways,

1987
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 6: there is some resentment there. You know, some guy you

1988
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 6: feel like, oh I should be with that team forever.

1989
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 6: It doesn't it doesn't happen now as it did in

1990
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 6: the past, but there's always there's always some tension there, right,

1991
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 6: and you want to just show your team like, hey,

1992
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 6: you shouldn't have let me go, or this is the

1993
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 6: reason why, and you want to have a big game

1994
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 6: versus your team. So knowing knowing that for Steph, and

1995
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 6: I know all the the noise that came in from

1996
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,560
Speaker 6: the Bills and Steph and that break up there, and

1997
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 6: I know all that was going on, but I didn't

1998
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 6: want I want to tell the team about that or

1999
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 6: make it a bigger deal than I needed to. I

2000
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 6: think our guys knew that. Everybody knew it. I just

2001
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 6: didn't want to make it a big deal in front

2002
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 6: of the team. But I think Nico said it's one

2003
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 6: other guy saying like, we wanted to get that win

2004
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 6: for Steph and we know how much it meant to him,

2005
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 6: and so I'm so excited or happy for him to

2006
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 6: have a really good game versus his old team and

2007
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 6: for us to get to win. You know it meant

2008
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 6: a lot to him, and I know he he'll always

2009
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 6: remember this.

2010
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 2: One Coach New England is a weird road trip because

2011
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: you can't get there from here right. It's it's south

2012
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 2: of Boston. You can't stay near the stadium. You have

2013
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: to bust in from somewhere else wherever it is. And

2014
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 2: it's a kind of long bus ride for a game

2015
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 2: day situation. How do you see? Is that a factor

2016
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 2: when you're playing a team like this For years they

2017
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 2: had number twelve. But any road trip in the NFL

2018
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 2: is tough.

2019
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 4: It is tough.

2020
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 6: And you mentioned he hit it on the head mark,

2021
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 6: and I actually, because I know that's coming, I mentioned

2022
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 6: that to our guys today in our team meeting, like, Hey,

2023
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 6: we're gonna have a long trip. So I want you

2024
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 6: guys to have your minds right right now, Like, where's

2025
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 6: gonna be a long trip? You guys got to be

2026
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 6: locked in. You gotta bring some energy. You have to

2027
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 6: be ready to go long bus ride, Like, don't let

2028
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 6: it surprise you on Saturday that oh we're traveling for

2029
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 6: a long time.

2030
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 7: And I want guys to be aware of that.

2031
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 6: Make sure we're getting the proper rest all throughout the week,

2032
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 6: do whatever we gotta do to recover, be ready to

2033
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 6: go once we hit New England, because it is a

2034
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 6: weird road trip. Is one of our longest travel travel days. Yeah,

2035
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 6: you know of the years, so we can't let that

2036
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 6: affect us. And that's my biggest thing is you attack

2037
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 6: it from the onset so it doesn't affect us later

2038
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 6: in the week.

2039
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 3: I like your word noise. That's a good word, So

2040
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw it in here.

2041
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: There's noise about potentially New England playing Drake May instead

2042
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett.

2043
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 3: How does that change the preparation if at all?

2044
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 1: Would you be going into a game, whether it's Jacoby

2045
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 1: or Drake knowing as much about those two as possible

2046
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: because you never know what could happen, and we don't

2047
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: know whether Drake's gonna start.

2048
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 3: I would imagine they're not.

2049
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: Gonna sit there and say, hey, Texans, Drake's starting this week,

2050
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 1: but being prepared for it if he does start.

2051
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, knowing May or if he's anything like me, he's

2052
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 6: not gonna sell his hands until late in the week.

2053
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 6: So knowing that noise that you just gave me a

2054
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 6: great tip. So I'll make sure we prepare for both

2055
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 6: before we get started. Prepare for both quarterbacks. And we'll

2056
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 6: see what Drake has done well in the preseason and

2057
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 6: all of his film so far in the NFL probably

2058
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 6: go back and rely on our scouts again for how

2059
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 6: was he in college and the things that he did well,

2060
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 6: things that affected him. Rely on the scouts for that.

2061
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 6: But then we'll just make sure we're prepared for both

2062
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 6: in that regard.

2063
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 3: And running game, right, they like to run the football that.

2064
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 4: Yes, they do.

2065
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 6: That's gonna be the That's the biggest thing for this

2066
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 6: week is whoever's that quarterback doesn't matter.

2067
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 7: Like they want to run the ball.

2068
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 6: They're really good at creating explosives in the run game

2069
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 6: and they play really good run defense. So we have

2070
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 6: our hands full when it comes to that. We didn't

2071
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 6: play the run well the past two weeks, so defensively,

2072
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 6: it's a big challenge for us, Like we got to

2073
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 6: step up, We got to stop the run offensively.

2074
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 7: See can we get it going?

2075
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 3: Coach?

2076
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: I know you got to win, and I know you're

2077
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 1: obviously happy about that, But is it frustrating not gative

2078
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: your takeaways?

2079
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 3: I know is he said a couple that were in

2080
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 3: his hands. I get that, But is it frustrating when

2081
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 3: you don't get the takeaways?

2082
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is frustrating.

2083
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 6: We knew it's funny that like playing Josh, we talked

2084
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 6: about getting turnovers and he's gonna throw you some just

2085
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 6: catch the ones he throws, so and forward to happen

2086
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 6: that way, and it's it's funny because seeing it on

2087
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 6: FAM earlier in the year, the same thing happened to

2088
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 6: all the other teams that they plays like he threw

2089
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 6: it right to guys and they just did not catch it.

2090
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 7: So it's frustrating, but I'll take the win.

2091
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 2: At the time, AMG Bank asked coach question of the week,

2092
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:49,560
Speaker 2: This isn't it.

2093
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 3: Did you hear Clay Martin say basketball instead of football?

2094
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,560
Speaker 7: Did I miss you?

2095
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 3: Guys are talking about basketball. I don't know what he said.

2096
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 3: I like basketball, but we are here. But interactions with officials.

2097
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 2: What was your relationship like with officials as a player

2098
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 2: and how is it now because you do have conversations.

2099
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:09,919
Speaker 3: It's just part of the working environment.

2100
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 2: And as a player it's got to be different than

2101
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 2: as a coach, but you do have to sort of

2102
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 2: get along in the environment of professional football.

2103
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 6: As a player, it was definitely more friendly, like fun,

2104
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 6: like hey, what's going on? Like it was more friendly

2105
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 6: now as the coach is like, man, I'm trying to

2106
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 6: have a good relationship with you guys. If you guys

2107
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 6: make the right calls right. Different different crews are different

2108
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 6: and it's all just working with people. Look, it's people,

2109
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 6: different personalities. Some guys are more friendly than others. It's

2110
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 6: just about for me, just kind of establishing the rapport

2111
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 6: with the guys early in the game.

2112
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,719
Speaker 7: And some crews you've worked with in the past.

2113
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 6: We have some crews out of our practices in a

2114
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 6: training camp and we have you know, better relationships with

2115
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 6: But all in all, it's about just getting the information

2116
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 6: and communicating right. That's the biggest thing is having great

2117
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 6: communication with the officials when something does happen, Like I

2118
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 6: just want to make sure you know you're kind of

2119
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 6: calling it both ways, Like I don't like getting into

2120
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 6: games when it's just kind of lopsided. But for the

2121
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 6: most part, we've had, you know, pretty good officials and

2122
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 6: I try to I try to not yell at them

2123
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 6: too much. That's the one thing I see some guys

2124
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 6: they kind of go off on the officials all the time.

2125
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 6: But it's also, like I said, it's people. So it's like,

2126
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 6: how do you want someone to treat you like? It's

2127
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 6: just treat people how you want to be treated. So

2128
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 6: I try not to just lose my lose my mind

2129
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 6: on the officials. Try to always be respectful.

2130
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 3: One more uniform review, Oh man, hey as.

2131
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 5: Nice.

2132
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 7: We need to make that our primary uniform. That guy

2133
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 7: that like, those are really nice?

2134
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 5: Man?

2135
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 6: I played, they look really good at them, and it

2136
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,640
Speaker 6: was those are sweet and fair. Bear made the kick

2137
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 6: from the H made the kick from the eights. Hey,

2138
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 6: let's roll Eastown blue for our primaries.

2139
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 3: All right, thanks a lot, coach, good luck, Thank you guys.

2140
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: That's right, Kayimi from the H is good. That was

2141
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: a good one, man. I love seeing that ball go

2142
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 1: through standon rudder and the goal post. I had some

2143
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: friends of mine, where were you, man? Where were you guys?

2144
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,759
Speaker 3: Like, I'll watch that ball go right through the sticks,

2145
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 3: was right underneath the sticks.

2146
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 5: That was good.

2147
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I remember that one for a long long time, and

2148
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: I remember the show for a long time, and hopefully

2149
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,759
Speaker 1: it's the precursor of a win, historic win in New England.

2150
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 3: I gonna make too much of it other than let's

2151
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 3: get another win.

2152
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: Let's get the five and one speed an AFC team

2153
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: on their turf, get another road victory.

2154
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 3: Got one this year, would like to get another one.

2155
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

2156
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: A big thanks to Dimico, to Drew, to Shaq Mason,

2157
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 1: to Jonathan Alexander, to Eric Dickerson, congratulations to him for

2158
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: making the twenty twenty four texabol Gridiron Legends class Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandermir of course, to all my guys back at Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio six ten, all of you listen, You guys are

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Speaker 1: the best.

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Speaker 3: We'll see on Sunday and as always, go Texans.

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Speaker 2: Hello Texans, welcome to the show, a bonus hour of

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio. And why not as the Texans venture to

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Speaker 2: go five and one in New England if they get

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Speaker 2: this one, five and one matches the best start in

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Speaker 2: the history of the franchise that happened in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: so that's on the radar. Also on the radar beating

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Speaker 2: the Patriots for the first time in New England, and

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Speaker 2: of course a homecoming for several people.

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Speaker 3: In the organization.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to get into me again, but

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Speaker 2: let's get it to Nick Cassio. Why not, James Lipford,

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Speaker 2: why not? Also Shaq Mason, why not? You heard from

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Speaker 2: him earlier this evening in the player profile interview with

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Speaker 2: Drew Doherty, and that'll also be on the air during

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Speaker 2: Texans Countdown presented by Medelo Especial, starting off Sunday morning

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Speaker 2: at nine am. Now, let's regroup here as Nick Cassario

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Speaker 2: sat down with us earlier this week. This was on

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Speaker 2: YouTube on this show, it's going to be on Texans Playbook.

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Speaker 2: Some of the best of that conversation, and we started

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Speaker 2: it off recapping some of what happened against the Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills on Sunday in the Texans fourth victory of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Nick, we thought about it during the game, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, Josh is not doing really really well, you know,

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Speaker 1: or Okay, you look up at the end, you're like,

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Speaker 1: he's niah thirty for one hundred and thirty one, had

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Speaker 1: one touchdown where he hit Keon, which was more about

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Speaker 1: Keon than it was about Josh.

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Speaker 3: What was the key in really slowing him down? Because

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Speaker 3: he had been obviously an MVP level all that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff.

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Speaker 1: In the games prior, but he was nigh thirty thirty

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Speaker 1: percent against you guys, what was kind of the key

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Speaker 1: in slowing him down in the passing game?

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Speaker 12: Sure, I mean, he's he's a great player, and we

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Speaker 12: knew in order to have success as a team, we're

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Speaker 12: gonna have to take him away offensively in some respects.

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Speaker 12: He gained a lot of yards you know, on the ground,

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Speaker 12: which going into the game we knew it was gonna

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Speaker 12: be a little bitn issue. But from the passing game standpoint,

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Speaker 12: dr talks about this a lot, the coordination between the

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Speaker 12: rush and the coverage. So we were tight in the receivers.

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Speaker 12: Rush was able to get maybe around the quarterback. We

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Speaker 12: only had the one sack, but we were able to

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Speaker 12: kind of disrupt the quarterback. So when you put those

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Speaker 12: two dynamics together, it leads to a good pass defense.

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Speaker 12: So it's a credit to the front, it's a credit

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Speaker 12: to the linebackers are a big part of that as well,

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Speaker 12: as He's had a number of plays where he was

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Speaker 12: tracking the quarterback. And then the coverage in the secondary

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Speaker 12: Kamari Staying, Petrie Eric Murray were on the receivers and

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Speaker 12: just made him force him to make some contested catches

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Speaker 12: and fortunately we were able to either get a hand

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Speaker 12: in there he missed a few. So when you put

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Speaker 12: all that together, that's why the result ended up the

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Speaker 12: way that it did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dimiko was talking about it. I know you want

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Speaker 3: to see sacks.

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Speaker 2: I all, you want to see disruptive plays in the backfield,

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Speaker 2: but disruption can happen in a variety of ways, right,

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Speaker 2: get the quarterback off his launching point, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 12: The discipline of the pass rush is important, and when

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Speaker 12: you want to make sure against the quarterback, look like

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Speaker 12: that he doesn't have a lot of space. The times

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Speaker 12: where he had some space or had an opening, or

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Speaker 12: maybe the rush wasn't as coordinated as we would have hoped,

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Speaker 12: he was able to squirt out of there and he

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Speaker 12: scrambled for over many yards. So but then there were

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Speaker 12: other times where we were rushing four or five, we

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Speaker 12: were able to stay in front and he had to

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Speaker 12: either find a launch point, move, couldn't see through the

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Speaker 12: the line, whatever it was. So that's where you talk

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Speaker 12: about you're not necessarily getting sacks per se. But I

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Speaker 12: think we ended up with sixteen seventeen total pressures. So

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Speaker 12: we were disrupting the quarterback and then when you tie

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Speaker 12: in the tight coverage, that's good pass defense.

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Speaker 3: Nick.

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Speaker 1: This is more about kind of procedural sort of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But on Saturday we get email from OMAR and PR

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Speaker 1: that Aziz has been put on an injury report. With

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Speaker 1: an illness and you don't know whether he's gonna go.

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Speaker 1: So when you go into a game, how far do

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Speaker 1: you go down? Plan B, Plan C, Plan D. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, if he can't go, okay, we've got to

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Speaker 1: do this. Well that might mean we got to take

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Speaker 1: this guy from here and we got to move this

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Speaker 1: guy over here. Maybe this guy's anactive because how tough

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Speaker 1: does that become when it's just one player? And at

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Speaker 1: Domino Falls and maybe before she did a lot to

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Speaker 1: do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, usually Friday afternoon you kind of have the final

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Speaker 12: injury report based on what happened during the course of

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Speaker 12: the week, and then if something happened between Friday evening

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Speaker 12: and to Saturday, from a compliance standpoint, like, we have

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Speaker 12: to report that to the league. So Azase wasn't feeling well,

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Speaker 12: So that's something that we had to disclose, and then

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Speaker 12: the plan is, all right, if he can't go, what

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Speaker 12: are our alternatives and options? Right, So I'd say, in

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Speaker 12: that particular case, Billy Matt dr get together, here's how

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Speaker 12: we're going to handle it. And I think the big

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Speaker 12: thing is just don't blink. So whatever the circumstances situation is,

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Speaker 12: you just have to deal with it. You can't change it.

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Speaker 12: You just have to find a solution. So I think

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Speaker 12: we've talked about this on the show. It's just fixed

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Speaker 12: problems and find solutions. So even though it happens late,

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Speaker 12: you're always prepared for a contingency if you have to

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Speaker 12: go to a Plan B or whatever it might be.

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Speaker 2: Can you take us through some of the elements of

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Speaker 2: when a player goes through what Nico went through, Where

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Speaker 2: all right, he goes into the tent, their conversations, the

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Speaker 2: coaches have to adjust because maybe no longer a part

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Speaker 2: of the game plan you go to the locker room

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Speaker 2: or not that kind of thing.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, during the course of the game, you're gonna probably

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Speaker 12: to modify some things as you go, whether it's schematically

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Speaker 12: because a team is doing something maybe a little different

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Speaker 12: than they showed, or you lose a player, so do

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Speaker 12: you have to adjust some calls. So that's part of coaching.

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Speaker 12: It happens to essentially everybody in the league. So he

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Speaker 12: just make some adjustments. Other people have to kind of

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Speaker 12: assume that responsibility and a role, not necessarily actual tangible production,

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Speaker 12: but they have to assume the assignments and responsibility. So

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Speaker 12: that situation in the second half Nico wasn't available, or

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Speaker 12: whenever he got hurt, Hutch played a little bit more,

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Speaker 12: made some plays, made a third down conversion there. So

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Speaker 12: it's just being prepared. This is where you have to

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Speaker 12: be able to rely on everybody that's a at the game.

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Speaker 12: They always have to be ready at moments notice for

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Speaker 12: whenever the opportunity comes.

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Speaker 2: We've seen players go into the locker room before though

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Speaker 2: and come back out and play. So how does that

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Speaker 2: communication go with the medical staff.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they get the information to dr and whatever respective

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Speaker 12: side of the ball that his offense or defense and

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Speaker 12: know is he available, is he going to return, or

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Speaker 12: he's still being evaluated further for some complication. So that

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Speaker 12: information needs to get to the people that it affects

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Speaker 12: the most. And probably Frank is involved in that as well,

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Speaker 12: just given if they have a role in the kicking game.

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Speaker 12: So it happens in real time, you have to be

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Speaker 12: ready to adjust and adapt. So as long as we

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Speaker 12: kind of know what the status and situation is, then

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Speaker 12: we can adjust accordingly.

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Speaker 3: LA's thirty five seconds or so.

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Speaker 1: Just the way that you talked about the situational those

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Speaker 1: situations as my wife has said, everything is a situation,

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Speaker 1: but there are some that are more prevalent than others.

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Speaker 1: How often you guys go through different machinations of even

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Speaker 1: whether it's on the field or not, just discuss, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what would we do in this situation. We got three timeouts,

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Speaker 1: We've got this, we got no timeouts, we got this.

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Speaker 1: How often you guys kind of go through situations and

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Speaker 1: look at other games that have happened to kind of

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Speaker 1: help you, kind of look at those scenarios that could

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Speaker 1: possibly take place.

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Speaker 4: All the above.

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Speaker 12: So during the course of the week, you have folks

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Speaker 12: that are looking at what's going on in the league.

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Speaker 12: This came up during the course of the game, spend

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Speaker 12: time with Demiko during the course of the week, there's

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Speaker 12: a specific time, kind of go through it, and then

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Speaker 12: you're just prepared for here's how we would handle that situation.

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Speaker 12: And we've talked about this. You don't know when those

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Speaker 12: situations are going to come up, but you want to

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Speaker 12: be prepared and you kind of have to talk them

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Speaker 12: through as the game is going on in anticipation. Really

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Speaker 12: got to stay two to three plays ahead. Okay, well

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Speaker 12: here's what it is. Green light here, or if we

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Speaker 12: get in a situation you're ready to call a time

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Speaker 12: whatever it might be, but end a half, end a

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Speaker 12: game like the ability to execute in those situations, it's

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Speaker 12: going to determine the fate of your team and kind

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Speaker 12: of what happens during the course of the game. So

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Speaker 12: for the most part, we did a pretty good job

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Speaker 12: there at the end, which led to the result that

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Speaker 12: it did.

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Speaker 2: Let's go through the Daria Gounbowale appreciation touch here and

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Speaker 2: Nick because another one this week.

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Speaker 3: Because we have role model players.

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Speaker 2: Andre Johnson's in the Hall of Fame, do what he did,

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Speaker 2: certain guys who have that kind of stature. Here's Dara

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Speaker 2: who is also a role model, right with everything he

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01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 2: contributes to the team in every.

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Speaker 12: Way, dependable, consistent, reliable professional, and he's been that way

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Speaker 12: since we acquired him, however many years ago. That was

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Speaker 12: so Dara's always been kind of a role player throughout

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Speaker 12: the course of his career when he's had to play offensively,

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Speaker 12: which when you go back and look at his career

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Speaker 12: in Tampa Bay, and there was a period where he

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Speaker 12: was essentially the third down back or the sub back,

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Speaker 12: and he had to play a little bit in early

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Speaker 12: downs as well. And he's been a very dependable, reliable,

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Speaker 12: productive player in a kicking game as well. So his

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Speaker 12: he was on fourth down, So typically your value on

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Speaker 12: fourth down will determine how big of a role you

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Speaker 12: may have offensively or defensively. And in our circumstance, we've

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01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,839
Speaker 12: been down running back wise. But Dara is always prepared.

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Speaker 12: He's the model of professionalism how you want to handle yourself.

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Speaker 12: I think Demico talked about this in terms of Robert

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Speaker 12: Woods just for younger players, like what's the model? Robert

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Speaker 12: Woods is the model, and I would say in a

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Speaker 12: lot of respects, Dara fits that bill as well. He's

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Speaker 12: always prepared, he's always ready to go, and it's important

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Speaker 12: to have players like that that you can count on

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Speaker 12: in critical situations when you need them the most. And

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Speaker 12: Dare over the last couple of weeks has been as

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Speaker 12: instrumental as our success offensively as anybody.

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Speaker 1: Nick Steph had a pretty solid ball game, and I

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Speaker 1: know that's gotta be tough when you face your former

2372
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: team in a sense, and we'll get to that a

2373
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 1: little bit, but what do you think of the way

2374
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:48,719
Speaker 1: Steph performed with all the emotion that he talked about

2375
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:50,440
Speaker 1: after the game that he was sort of feeling.

2376
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 4: In that game.

2377
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, Steph's handled himself in that game like he's handled

2378
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 12: himself when he walked in the building. I mean, he's

2379
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,600
Speaker 12: been the same guy since we traded for him and

2380
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,799
Speaker 12: acquired him. He's got a great attitude, dude. He's emotional

2381
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,640
Speaker 12: in a good way. He's very competitive, he cares a

2382
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 12: lot about winning, he wants to do the right things,

2383
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 12: and he's productive when he's on the field. So I mean,

2384
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 12: I don't know how many targets he's had during the

2385
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 12: course of the year, but typically when the ball is

2386
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 12: thrown to him, he catches it. So talk about dependability

2387
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 12: and just making the plays when you need them. And

2388
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 12: a lot of his completions the other day were for

2389
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 12: first down, so credit to Steph. The way Steph practices

2390
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 12: is it shows up on game day. So there's a

2391
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 12: correlation between how you prepare and what you do during

2392
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 12: the course of the week and then what you end

2393
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 12: up doing on game day, And certainly he's a great

2394
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 12: example of that.

2395
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 2: Nick, It's clear this team is a great positive attitude.

2396
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 2: There's something about it. It's the ultimate intangible. But can

2397
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:45,719
Speaker 2: you speak to that a little bit? What you sense

2398
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 2: in this bunch last year and this year.

2399
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think people enjoy coming to the building, coming

2400
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 12: to work, and I think the environment that Demiko creates

2401
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,919
Speaker 12: is second to none. So he's got great energy, he's consistent.

2402
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 12: The players know what to expect on a day to

2403
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 12: day basis, what the standard to performance is. Here are

2404
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 12: the things that we need to improve and get better

2405
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,560
Speaker 12: and just be yourself and just have a very i

2406
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 12: would say purposeful mindset when it comes to work, because

2407
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 12: in the end, it's about the work. So here are

2408
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 12: the things that we have to do each week in

2409
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 12: order to win the game. Make sure we're prepared, making

2410
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 12: sure that you go through your process, and just have

2411
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 12: you know, fun doing what you're doing. So football is hard.

2412
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 12: Life is hard, but there's no reason we need to

2413
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 12: make it any harder than it is. So create a

2414
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 12: good environment, provide the players with the resources that they

2415
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 12: need in order to be successful, and just try to

2416
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 12: have a positive attitude and just keep pressing forward and

2417
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 12: doing the right thing. So, I mean, it's a credit.

2418
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 12: It starts with the Miko, and its the credit to

2419
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 12: the players and the leadership that we have in place.

2420
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 12: That that's the environment that we have in the building.

2421
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 1: Okay, good Bills win win over the Bills, excellent twenty

2422
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 1: three twenty it's time to move on.

2423
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if you knew this. We're going to

2424
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 3: a place called Foxborough.

2425
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're not there of it, So

2426
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: we won't ask you how to get there, but I

2427
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: would assume you know the team, kid, it's kind of important.

2428
01:45:58,320 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 3: Only your patriots.

2429
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 12: Nick, Yeah, it's kind of innswered, kind of studying them

2430
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 12: here a little bit over the last you know, a

2431
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:06,839
Speaker 12: few days. But it's it's almost a dichotomy of change

2432
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 12: versus continuity because you kind of see a little bit

2433
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 12: of both. So starting with Gerrod, I mean, Garrod's first

2434
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 12: year as a head coach, but has experience in the program,

2435
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 12: played there, his coach there. And then defensively, DeMarcus Covington's

2436
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 12: defensive coordinator who we heard DeMarcus kind of as a

2437
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 12: defensive quality troll assistance kind of worked his way through

2438
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 12: the system. So they're a big part of, you know,

2439
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 12: what goes on on defense. And then in a kicking game,

2440
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 12: Avenue special teams coordinator coach Springer and offensively coach Van

2441
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 12: Pelt come over from Cleveland Buffalo so it's a mixture

2442
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 12: of kind of new and old. I would say they

2443
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 12: certainly have a number of things that they do well,

2444
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 12: starting defensively, like they're a good team on defense, good front,

2445
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 12: multiplicity of fronts, and they have a lot of hybrid

2446
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 12: type players, if you will, kind of working back to front.

2447
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 12: We look at guys like Mapu and Jabril Prepper at

2448
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 12: Pepper's and Kyle Dugger safety kind of linebacker hybrid, but

2449
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 12: they can do multiple things well. Have a really good

2450
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 12: corner in Christian Gonzalez, I mean, matchup corner. He's really

2451
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 12: one of the better corners in the league. And then

2452
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 12: they kind of mix and move in between a nickel

2453
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 12: and a perimeter with Jonathan Jones who's played inside over

2454
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 12: the course of his career. Jonathan was a really good

2455
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 12: kicking game player early in his career, and that Marcus

2456
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 12: Jones is kind of their slot corner, nickel corner, Houston

2457
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 12: kid who's also he factors into the return game as well,

2458
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 12: he's a punt returner. So the secondary kind of the

2459
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 12: back half, you know, some hybrid players, but a lot

2460
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 12: of younger players but do have experience in the front,

2461
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 12: a bunch of big guys inside, starting with Godshaw quality

2462
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 12: guys like that. Kean White, I would say, is one

2463
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 12: of the better players on defense. He's very versatile, lines

2464
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 12: up at outside linebacker, he lines up at defensive end.

2465
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 12: Rusts from the inside, but he's big, he's long, he's athletic,

2466
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,759
Speaker 12: he can rush the passer, he can pressure the quarterback

2467
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 12: really good player, is a good pass rusher. So they

2468
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 12: get kind of contributions from number of different players on

2469
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 12: the edge and linebacker. They've kind of had to some

2470
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 12: turnover there because of the injuries. Bil Bentley, he's on IR.

2471
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 12: McMillan's been in and out. Tava has been kind of

2472
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 12: a studying presence there. So it's kind of a collection

2473
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 12: of players that can line up in multiple spots. Younger

2474
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 12: players who have kind of grown up and developed in

2475
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:19,799
Speaker 12: the system.

2476
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 3: They do a good job.

2477
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 12: They're good against a run, they don't give up a

2478
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 12: lot of explosive plays, and they've been able to take

2479
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 12: the ball away and then offensively, I would say the

2480
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 12: two best players are really are the backs, really Gibbie

2481
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 12: and Ormandre Stevenson. Stevenson is good of a Backtor is

2482
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 12: well rounded, good balance, good body, control, strong, tough, good

2483
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 12: player in the passing game, signing Gibson in the offseason,

2484
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 12: who kind of is a change of pace. Guys got

2485
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 12: some speed. Jacoby's done a good job. Kobe hasn't turned

2486
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:47,720
Speaker 12: the ball over right, so he hasn't given it to

2487
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaker 12: the other team. I think their turnover margin, they're in

2488
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 12: the top ten in terms of just the overall margins,

2489
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 12: so they haven't given it away.

2490
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 3: They've they've taken it away.

2491
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 12: So two good backs, good tight end and Hunter Henry

2492
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 12: who's very reliable, and then a receiver. A number of

2493
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 12: young players who they're kind of working through some things with.

2494
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 12: But you know, Pop Douglas is a really good player,

2495
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 12: played well as a rookie getting born back. So in

2496
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 12: that offensive line, they've just had a number of players

2497
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 12: in there because of the injuries, so they're just trying

2498
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 12: to kind of piece it together there. But number of

2499
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 12: things that they do well. They run the ball really well, offensively,

2500
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 12: don't turn the ball over, and defensively they kind of

2501
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 12: give you multiplicity it looks. And then in the kicking game,

2502
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 12: they got one of the best punters in the league

2503
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 12: in Barrenger, so good specialist, good punter, and then the

2504
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 12: return specialist talked about Marcus Jones, who's top ten punt returner,

2505
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 12: and then Jamichael Hasty, So I would say they have

2506
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 12: good players. They've been in three to one score games.

2507
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 12: So it went to overtime with Seattle, went beat Cincinnati

2508
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:42,640
Speaker 12: and then kind of came down to the wire are

2509
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 12: against Miami last week. So it was a good football team.

2510
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 12: So we're gonna have to go up there with the

2511
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 12: right mindset and be ready to go.

2512
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 2: I've always thought it's the toughest road trip in the league,

2513
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 2: not just because Brady played there for a couple of decades,

2514
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 2: Dick and you were there as well, but it takes a.

2515
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 3: Long time to get there from anywhere.

2516
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 2: You don't stay near the stadium, flight where do you land,

2517
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:04,560
Speaker 2: Providence or Boston, A lot of complication there. Then you

2518
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 2: get there at night, there's the haunted House on the Hill.

2519
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 2: When you were there, were you aware of that kind

2520
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 2: of element for the road teams.

2521
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, we weren't really too focused on that. We were

2522
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 12: just trying to make sure we were ready to play

2523
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:15,719
Speaker 12: and ready to go, which I think that'll be important

2524
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 12: for our team this week. So can't weren't necessarily worry

2525
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 12: about Well, just got a lot of great, great people

2526
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 12: that handle that. So go through your process during the week.

2527
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 12: Understand it's going to be a long fight flight, So

2528
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 12: do need to do during the course of the week

2529
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 12: to prepare, get your rest, make sure you're hydrated, and

2530
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 12: then get up and get ready to go against a

2531
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 12: good team who has a good track record at home.

2532
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:37,520
Speaker 1: So it's a place we've never won against a quarterback

2533
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 1: right now where we've only beaten him once, and that's

2534
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett. So it's kind of a two part question, Nick,

2535
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 1: why is Jacoby difficult to face?

2536
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 3: If they part two? If they do make the change

2537
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 3: and go to Drake May, what could we see with him?

2538
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2539
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 12: I think Jacoby's he's a pro and Jacoby's got a big,

2540
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 12: strong arm, He's very tough, and historically over the course

2541
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 12: of his career he hasn't a ball over so he

2542
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 12: generally makes good decisions. You know, which part of your

2543
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 12: job as a quarterback is to make good decisions, not

2544
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 12: give the other team the ball. So Jacoby's been a steady,

2545
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 12: reliable presence. He's got a great demeanor, he's got a

2546
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 12: great personality. He's had good leadership, which is probably the

2547
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 12: reason why that he's playing. And then you talk about Drake.

2548
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 12: I mean there's a reason he was drafted third overall.

2549
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 12: When you watch him playing in the preseason, he played well.

2550
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 12: So big, strong, athletic, big arm does some things that

2551
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 12: a lot of the kind of the quarterbacks this day

2552
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 12: and age do to kind of the dual threat. So

2553
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 12: whatever the situation is, I mean, ultimately be their decision,

2554
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 12: but we kind of have to prepare for everybody that

2555
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 12: could be at the game that's going to be available,

2556
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 12: and then just make sure that we're taking care of

2557
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 12: our business, doing the right thing at least defensively, making

2558
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 12: sure we're sound and our techniques understand the call, and

2559
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 12: just being able to go out there next cube.

2560
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 2: My two things sampling your former local knowledge. You were

2561
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 2: there when the old stadium was there, and I think

2562
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 2: people don't understand how basic a setup that was in

2563
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 2: New England. Then they get the new stadium and also

2564
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 2: that open area, the Longfellow Bridge, whatever that thing is.

2565
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 3: What about that, Yeah, he'll kind of start.

2566
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,600
Speaker 12: I think they've made some cosmetic adjustments to that end.

2567
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 12: I haven't really seen it since, but they've they've put

2568
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 12: a lot of resources into the stadium. The scoreboard, the

2569
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 12: open end kind of done some things. So they've done

2570
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 12: a great job with the upkeep and just kind of developing.

2571
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 12: And then you have Patriot Place. It's very unique, I

2572
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 12: would say area the old stadium. My first year in

2573
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 12: the NFL two thousand and one was the last year

2574
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 12: in old Jillette Stadium, and it was it was bare bones,

2575
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 12: I mean, metal benches, so you're sitting, you're cold as hell.

2576
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 12: Sound an old school environment. So really the old stadium

2577
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 12: where the new stadium is, they were like right next

2578
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 12: to each other, so they kind of, you know, uh,

2579
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,599
Speaker 12: raise the old stadium and then build a new stadium

2580
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 12: literally right next to it.

2581
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 3: So the new stadium is a little bit nicer than

2582
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 3: the old one. A little bit sounds like it. Drum

2583
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 3: Mayo's head coach.

2584
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 1: You saw him as a player, he's drafted, he plays

2585
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 1: did when did you know or did you know that

2586
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: he was going to be a head coach. He kind

2587
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 1: of exhibit those qualities as a linebacker right away. And

2588
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: what do you think about him taking over obviously after

2589
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick did so much.

2590
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, when Gerard came in as a rookie, I mean

2591
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 12: he kind of earned his stripes right from the get go.

2592
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 12: I mean, very few players, you know. I don't say

2593
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 12: it doesn't happen, but the fact that he was a

2594
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 12: captain on a rookie team or as a rookie on

2595
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 12: that team speaks to his leadership. So Girod was a

2596
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 12: very smart player at Tennessee, and then when he showed up,

2597
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 12: he was a good football player in the SEC. And

2598
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 12: then his just his leadership and his production really stood out.

2599
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 12: And he has a way of connecting with a lot

2600
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 12: of people. So you saw that as a player. At

2601
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 12: the end of his career, he had to deal with

2602
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 12: some injuries, so and he kind of started to transition out.

2603
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 12: He spent some time in private business before he transitioned back,

2604
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 12: but he kind of started at the lowest level. Came

2605
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 12: in as a quality control coach. Nothing was you know,

2606
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 12: he had to earn everything. Nothing was guaranteed, and he

2607
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 12: put a lot of work behind the scenes. And anytime

2608
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 12: that you're replacing somebody the caliber coach Belichick, it's never

2609
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 12: an easy situation. But I think the important thing is

2610
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 12: he's kind of handled it and put his spin on

2611
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 12: the program and doing the things that he thinks are important,

2612
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 12: making it his program. And you're starting to see that

2613
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 12: in terms of how they play. But Gerad's a really smart,

2614
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 12: smart individual, really good person, good football player, and he's

2615
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 12: going to be a good head coach.

2616
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 10: He has a good head coach.

2617
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 2: National media very focused on these games with Diggs playing

2618
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 2: his former teams, but we're focused on the Nick Cassario

2619
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 2: reality Tour continuation because we had our timing to the

2620
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 2: Cleveland area.

2621
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 3: Now we're going to New England.

2622
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2623
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, So some of the memories you have just personally

2624
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 2: of being in New England they have to be good ones.

2625
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 2: Obviously on the field it was great, but you started

2626
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 2: your family there and everything like that.

2627
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2628
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 12: No, with a lot of great memories. So, I mean,

2629
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 12: I met my wife. You know, she worked for the organizations.

2630
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 12: She was working on partnership marketing, kind of the soccer

2631
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 12: football side of it. So I met my wife, So

2632
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 12: I mean, I'll start there. So nothing good has happened

2633
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 12: without her in my life. But with a lot of

2634
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 12: good memories. You know, we didn't have to move around

2635
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 12: too much. But I always enjoy going into the city.

2636
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 12: The North End is really kind of unique. It's got

2637
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 12: the culture and just so we always love going down

2638
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 12: to dinner down there, and fortunately met a lot of

2639
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 12: good people while we were there. So we have nothing

2640
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 12: but great things to say about the area. We vacation

2641
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 12: over there during the summer and we go back to

2642
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 12: the Cape, so a lot of fond memories. So all

2643
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 12: of our children were born, you know, in Boston as well.

2644
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 12: So yeah, so you know, a lot of great experience,

2645
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 12: met a lot of great people, fortunate to be a

2646
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 12: part of a number of winning teams and a great organization,

2647
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 12: and was always treated well by the people there, starting

2648
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 12: with ownership and Robert Jonathan always treated me well, always

2649
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 12: gave me, you know, the great, great opportunity, and you know,

2650
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 12: hopefully I did the right thing by them all every

2651
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 12: step of the way.

2652
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a one hundred percent in the affirmative.

2653
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you maybe something that might be a

2654
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: little weird, but when you said something about drop mail

2655
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 1: that stood out to me he went into business for

2656
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 1: you said, you went into business and he came back.

2657
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 1: Does that resonate with you in a sense the fact

2658
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 1: that you did that for a short amount of time

2659
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 1: before you really got and dove into the business, that

2660
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 1: maybe you get a little different perspective check that does

2661
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 1: that kind of resonate with you when players do that,

2662
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: when they go out and see something different than come

2663
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 1: back to it.

2664
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 3: Sure, whatever you're.

2665
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 12: Doing, you have to make a decision, all right, where's

2666
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 12: my kind of life going to take me? And it's

2667
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 12: sometimes it's never linear, it's never a straight line. So

2668
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 12: but when you're around football, like if you enjoy football

2669
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 12: and want to be Immerson and want to be a

2670
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 12: part of it, and you have to make a commitment

2671
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 12: to it. So as Gerard was transitioning from playing to coaching,

2672
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 12: there was a window there where he was probably trying

2673
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 12: to figure out what do I do next? But I

2674
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 12: think the fact that he made decision to come back

2675
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 12: to football speaks to how much he loves football, how

2676
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 12: much he wanted to be involved. And he's left a

2677
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 12: positive impression, you know, time that he's been there, both

2678
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 12: as a player and as a coach as an assistant,

2679
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 12: and obviously he's putting his improt on the program now

2680
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 12: I was the head coach.

2681
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 3: Great stuff, Nick, thanks a lot, good luck this week.

2682
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 12: Thanks fellows.

2683
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 2: All right, there's some of the best of that conversation

2684
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 2: with Nick Cassio, general manager and executive vice president. Coming up,

2685
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 2: we'll have a little recap of the talk we had

2686
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 2: with defensive tackle and starter Foley Fatacasi. Tim Settle. We

2687
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 2: caught up with him earlier this week, Former Buffalo Bill.

2688
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 2: A lot of player interaction this week on the program

2689
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 2: Always Is, isn't it? You're gonna hear a little bit

2690
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 2: of Tim later on Folly as well. Let's get into

2691
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 2: it on Texans Radio. Great to have you listening tonight

2692
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 2: on Texans Radio. Bonus hour of Texans All Access Houston

2693
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 2: at New England on Sunday at noon. It's gonna be

2694
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: a big one.

2695
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2696
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 2: You might look at the Patriots record and say so

2697
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 2: what one and four? Never say so what about any

2698
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:29,919
Speaker 2: team in the NFL. They've got tools, they've got players,

2699
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 2: they can beat you.

2700
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 3: Get ready.

2701
01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 2: Do I need to remind anybody about Carolina last year?

2702
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 2: The team will be fully prepared for this one. We

2703
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 2: were getting prepared by catching up with fully Fatacasi earlier

2704
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: this week. Nd Kalou on the Texans All Access Players

2705
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 2: Edition program. Now, a few things about this show. We

2706
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 2: have a little trend going where we have a guest

2707
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 2: they have a big game. Daria Gunbawale had them on

2708
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,839
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, Big Game. We had Khalil

2709
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:59,839
Speaker 2: Davis on last week has his first sack, contributes mightily

2710
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 2: against the Buffalo Bills. Now fully fight Akasi. He's been

2711
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 2: having a nice season, but we told him about this.

2712
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 3: Not only that.

2713
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 2: Another trend is this Nigerian love fest Anddi Kalou and

2714
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 2: Daria Goodbowale a couple of weeks ago, Dye Kalou and

2715
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 2: fully fight Akasi. That's how we started the conversation.

2716
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 13: Love love having you in. You know where I'm from.

2717
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 13: We'll say, kay, do you said old Tomaso? But we're

2718
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 13: here in Houston, so we'll just say what did it do?

2719
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 13: Like they say here in Houston. But man, welcome in.

2720
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 13: Been following you, you know from the Jets days. Always

2721
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 13: try to follow a lot of the Nigerian Americans. Let's

2722
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 13: talk about your journey. You know, six round draft pick

2723
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 13: out of a small school. After three years, you become

2724
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:43,920
Speaker 13: a full time starter, then you signed the big deal.

2725
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 13: Can you just talk about your growth as an NFL

2726
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 13: player and some of the things you attribute your success to,

2727
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 13: because a lot of guys will get drafted that late.

2728
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 13: You know, the goal is just to make the team,

2729
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,720
Speaker 13: and you've only done that become a starter and become

2730
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 13: a big time starter in this league.

2731
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 4: Man. Really, just I really think God, you know, I

2732
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 4: really thank God.

2733
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 13: And like I said, even in those times where I

2734
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 13: wasn't playing, those those are the times where I was

2735
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 13: really starting to sharpen my tools, sharpen just how to

2736
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 13: become a better player in the league. And when the

2737
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 13: opportunity I rose.

2738
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 4: It was great. It was great.

2739
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 13: I was able to seize that opportunity and make use

2740
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 13: of it. Getting to another deal, you know, that's every

2741
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,240
Speaker 13: that's every that's every guy's dream, you know. So you

2742
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 13: get to that deal and you try to make use

2743
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 13: of that and grow from that as well. And now

2744
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:31,720
Speaker 13: being in a position to where I can at least

2745
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 13: show that, like hey, like I'm more than capable. It's

2746
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 13: a blessing, you know, being president in that's it's beautiful

2747
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,120
Speaker 13: to me. And I want to continue to take not

2748
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 13: take it for granted. You get what I'm saying. Absolutely,

2749
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 13: When you you know, again, just coming in the back

2750
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 13: door late round, I think it does give you a

2751
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:51,440
Speaker 13: better perspective because a lot of the guys who are

2752
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 13: first rounders, you know, credit to them, they busted their

2753
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 13: tail and high school and college to get that. But

2754
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 13: I do believe kind of with what you're saying, sitting

2755
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 13: back watching getting the metal reps, then when you do

2756
02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 13: get the opportunity, I feel like a lot of times

2757
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:06,960
Speaker 13: guys like us later around, guys get to appreciate it more.

2758
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:08,320
Speaker 4: And that's what it sounds like with you.

2759
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 13: No, yeah, just the ability to just the opportunities to

2760
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 13: still to still develop, you know, as a player.

2761
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 3: I think it served me well playing the Jags.

2762
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 2: I want to get into that folly because that must

2763
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 2: have been really sweet for you to play your former team.

2764
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 2: We've had a lot of that going on around here,

2765
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,640
Speaker 2: in case anybody didn't notice Digs and the.

2766
02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills and all the other former bills.

2767
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 2: But what about you playing the Jags last week and

2768
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 2: getting that victory over your former club.

2769
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 4: I'd be lying if I told you didn't feel good.

2770
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 13: But you know, I think the most important part, or

2771
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:46,520
Speaker 13: the biggest thing that I take away from just you know,

2772
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:50,120
Speaker 13: just that win, just that game is just uh, the

2773
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:51,080
Speaker 13: rally of the guys.

2774
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 5: You know.

2775
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:55,080
Speaker 13: Uh, We're like we literally like stand next stand by

2776
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 13: each other and fight for each other. They didn't make

2777
02:00:57,400 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 13: it bigger than what it needed to be. You know,

2778
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:03,000
Speaker 13: we stayed sharp, we stayed on top of our assignments

2779
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:05,120
Speaker 13: and the things that we you know, keeping the main thing,

2780
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:07,360
Speaker 13: the main thing, you know. And when we went out

2781
02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 13: there together, it was like wow, Like you know, it

2782
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 13: was it's in those moments in those games, it's like, man,

2783
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 13: you gotta calm down. Yep, right, let's zoom in. All right,

2784
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 13: let's lock in, do what you're supposed to do, you know.

2785
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 13: And it worked out, you know, so obviously seeing the guys,

2786
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:29,680
Speaker 13: you know, they're all laughing and joking.

2787
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:30,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2788
02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:32,520
Speaker 13: You know, it's interesting because you spend time with guys,

2789
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:35,440
Speaker 13: it's like you know them well, you know them well

2790
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 13: and so constantly. You don't just all of a sudden

2791
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 13: really become enemies.

2792
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:41,840
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's like, I know your game,

2793
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:43,680
Speaker 4: you know my game. All right, let's make this an

2794
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 4: honorable matchup.

2795
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:46,080
Speaker 5: So it was.

2796
02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 4: It was fun and it felt good to come out

2797
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 4: with the victory at the end.

2798
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 3: Well, I D's like this too.

2799
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 2: You guys are really nice guys and wonderful to spend

2800
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 2: time with. And I've asked you this question and D,

2801
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 2: but what about you Foley, Like, what goes on when

2802
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 2: you get between the lines and you have to turn

2803
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 2: up the juice and become this whatever you become on

2804
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:10,280
Speaker 2: the field. I saw you tackle Cook big TfL. I

2805
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 2: mean you made a monster play right there. You make

2806
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:14,560
Speaker 2: a lot of those kinds of plays. What happens to

2807
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 2: you as a person when you get on the field?

2808
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:21,440
Speaker 4: Man, how did you answer this question?

2809
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 13: Everyone's different, But for me, I almost try to get

2810
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 13: into character because off the field, you know, you want

2811
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 13: to be an honorable man. But you know, sometimes I

2812
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:35,400
Speaker 13: mentioned if my pregame music, I feel guilty listening to

2813
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 13: it because it's typically not what I listen to during

2814
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 13: the week. But I just get into a different mindset.

2815
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 13: But everyone's different, so I'm curious to hear your I

2816
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,160
Speaker 13: would agree. I would agree, and I think a lot

2817
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:46,760
Speaker 13: of guys will say this too. It's like you don't

2818
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:48,720
Speaker 13: want to get too outside of character to where you're

2819
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:53,320
Speaker 13: doing things. That's like whoa detrimental detrimental to yourself, to

2820
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 13: the team. But you get into a certain spacey in

2821
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,240
Speaker 13: mind where it's like, Okay, this is where I have

2822
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:03,960
Speaker 13: to go in order to perform. I believe everybody who

2823
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 13: plays any competitive sport or it is competitive in any

2824
02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 13: area of their lives. Would say that there's a level

2825
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:11,400
Speaker 13: of ego you have to get to in order to

2826
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 13: perform and be dominant, right, And it's not to h

2827
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 13: it's not to like, let's say, be a detriment to

2828
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 13: yourself or to your team, but it's definitely for you

2829
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 13: to play at a high level. So in my mind,

2830
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:26,160
Speaker 13: it's what's that what's that ego that I would need

2831
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 13: to tap into it so I can be dominant, right.

2832
02:03:29,320 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 13: I'm to be honest, I'm not the guy that's going

2833
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 13: to go out there and try to like deliberately harm somebody, right,

2834
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:36,520
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. That's not me, you know

2835
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:38,520
Speaker 13: what I mean. But I am the guy that need

2836
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 13: I need to get to a place to where like, okay,

2837
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:42,280
Speaker 13: I want you to know at the end of this

2838
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,520
Speaker 13: game that this was an honorable matchup, you know what

2839
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:47,600
Speaker 13: I'm saying. And you felt like you exhausted yourself because

2840
02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 13: you know, and that's a place that everyone gets to

2841
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 13: needs to go to, and you know your dog tired

2842
02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:52,240
Speaker 13: at the end of it.

2843
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 4: But you know, you realize it's like, what is it

2844
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 4: what do they call it? A Badge of Honor, you know.

2845
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, everything's within the rules, within the rules. So

2846
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 2: Demico Ryans is so positive. And this is something I've

2847
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,840
Speaker 2: really noticed with this team last year and this year,

2848
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:11,840
Speaker 2: and maybe even more this year, with pulling out four

2849
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 2: victories that all came down to the wire, and at times,

2850
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:18,200
Speaker 2: especially this last game in the fourth quarter, it's getting

2851
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 2: a little dicey. Some mistakes made, but everything just locks

2852
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:25,160
Speaker 2: up from the time the intentional grounding occurred. It was

2853
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:29,000
Speaker 2: total complimentary football. Punt, big stop by the d The

2854
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:30,960
Speaker 2: Bills don't move in an inch. In fact, the defense

2855
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:32,760
Speaker 2: what last eight plays? They don't move it an inch?

2856
02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 2: And then another punt, great return by Woods, completion, field goal,

2857
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 2: get out of here.

2858
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:39,000
Speaker 4: With the victory.

2859
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:42,480
Speaker 3: Everybody just locked in, arm in arm and put it together.

2860
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:45,400
Speaker 2: What is it about these guys, folly that makes them

2861
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:48,440
Speaker 2: come together at these moments, the moment of truth and

2862
02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:49,600
Speaker 2: pull out these victories.

2863
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 4: Man, I'll be honest, I don't know.

2864
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 13: It's almost like and obviously you know, we still have

2865
02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:58,200
Speaker 13: a lot of football to play, sure, sure, right, and

2866
02:04:58,280 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 13: a lot of tough opponents that are coming up, but

2867
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:04,040
Speaker 13: so far as almost been pretty like cosmic, almost you

2868
02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 13: know the guys just we unify, we rally, you know

2869
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:12,160
Speaker 13: what I'm saying. And coach me, he's just, oh, man,

2870
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 13: he's probably gonna go down like as probably the best

2871
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 13: head coach I've had in my career, you know, because

2872
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 13: he keeps the main thing, the main thing, you know

2873
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 13: what I'm saying. He keeps it in an area where

2874
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 13: it's like, all right, these are the areas that we

2875
02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 13: need to grow in. How do we need to grow

2876
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:28,760
Speaker 13: in them? And let's go growing them. I've grown a

2877
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 13: lot as a player since i've been here. You know,

2878
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:32,920
Speaker 13: I'm a year seven. I still feel like I'm ascending,

2879
02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:35,520
Speaker 13: but I've grown a lot. I've really started to understand

2880
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:38,120
Speaker 13: football a lot more and really started to understand the

2881
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:40,600
Speaker 13: craft work and what it takes to become better. So

2882
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:44,760
Speaker 13: seeing that with myself and then seeing that amongst my peers, man,

2883
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:47,000
Speaker 13: it's encouraging. When you walk into the locker room and

2884
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 13: you see old linemen and you see receivers, you see

2885
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 13: the d backs, right d lineman and you're walking by

2886
02:05:53,080 --> 02:05:55,960
Speaker 13: and you think they're having just a casual conversation, but

2887
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:59,400
Speaker 13: they're talking about the craft work. You know, they're talking

2888
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 13: about what they say on film, they're talking about their

2889
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 13: next opponent. Right, they're correcting each other. We're correcting each other, right,

2890
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:08,040
Speaker 13: We're learning from each other. It's like a team where

2891
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:10,320
Speaker 13: it's like, at least from my perspective, and I have

2892
02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 13: a very optimistic view of things, no man is bigger

2893
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 13: than the other. I've some rookies have said some things

2894
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 13: this year and I took it and I put it

2895
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 13: in my team Wow, and it showed up in my film. Rookies,

2896
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. Typically, you know, we play

2897
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:25,840
Speaker 13: in this in this league, it's like some some some

2898
02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 13: people fall victim to like, you know, just the idea

2899
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,360
Speaker 13: of they know it all or something a little bit,

2900
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:33,560
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. Some don't know that they're

2901
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:36,440
Speaker 13: doing it. But you get a young guy that's like, hey,

2902
02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 13: you know, Folly, you ever thought about trying this?

2903
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 4: No, I haven't. Let me try it. Yeah, and it works.

2904
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 13: So I think this team is just I'm learning a lot.

2905
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:50,000
Speaker 13: I'm observing and I'm learning a lot from this team,

2906
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 13: and it's given me an extra layer to add to, like,

2907
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 13: you know, me as a person.

2908
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:57,320
Speaker 4: And as a player. So it's beautiful.

2909
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 13: That's that's very cool to hearing this, your wisdom, your

2910
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:04,640
Speaker 13: maturity to be able to take some quote unquote advice

2911
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:07,440
Speaker 13: from a rookie and implement it to your game. When

2912
02:07:07,480 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 13: you were signing or when you were doing your due

2913
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:12,040
Speaker 13: diligence thinking of what team you were going to sign with?

2914
02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 13: What led you to Houston? If I'm being honest, completely honest, right,

2915
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:23,960
Speaker 13: not to sound so we're here for right, but not

2916
02:07:24,160 --> 02:07:27,680
Speaker 13: not to sound like, you know, over religious or anything

2917
02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 13: like that.

2918
02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 2: But so that led you to the answer to come

2919
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:34,880
Speaker 2: here because I know you visited other teams, you had

2920
02:07:34,920 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 2: some options, maybe the Bills were one of them. Reportedly,

2921
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 2: I just read that, Look you're here, that's all I

2922
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:45,680
Speaker 2: care about. But that's interesting. Well, you have a lot

2923
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,720
Speaker 2: of guys focused on that here, and I think, I

2924
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:51,360
Speaker 2: don't know, I think that's one of the things. That's

2925
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:53,000
Speaker 2: one of the things that brings this team together.

2926
02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:55,520
Speaker 13: Once again, It's the best word I can coin this

2927
02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 13: thing is. It's beautiful. It's definitely all. It's definitely beautiful

2928
02:07:59,080 --> 02:07:59,360
Speaker 13: to see.

2929
02:07:59,560 --> 02:07:59,680
Speaker 5: Right.

2930
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 13: Obviously, we know that there's a lot of you know,

2931
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:05,240
Speaker 13: football left right to play in this season. Each game

2932
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:07,920
Speaker 13: that has to be taken with a high level of seriousness.

2933
02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:13,720
Speaker 13: And intent, But I really don't discount the power of prayer.

2934
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 13: You know, what it would mean by the end of

2935
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 13: the season, I don't know. But so far I'm seeing

2936
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 13: what's necessary for me to grow, not even as just

2937
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 13: a player, but you know, as a man, as a brother,

2938
02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:28,360
Speaker 13: you know, as a son. God willing someday somebody's husband,

2939
02:08:28,720 --> 02:08:31,080
Speaker 13: a father, you know, and I think it was It's

2940
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 13: really it's really unique and encouraging to see that in

2941
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 13: this stage of my career, year seven, still growing and

2942
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 13: still learning. It's like it's almost like I almost learned

2943
02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:44,240
Speaker 13: how to become a sponge again. And it's and it's great,

2944
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 13: you know, God willing, I can continue to apply these things,

2945
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 13: you know, as I continue to play and talk with others.

2946
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:53,240
Speaker 13: But it's it's beautiful, yeah, prayer man, all right, speaking

2947
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 13: with Fuller Rounso Patacasi. As you grow and you talk

2948
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:59,280
Speaker 13: about growth, still growing in year seven, what's a part

2949
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 13: of your own old game that you want to continue

2950
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 13: to approve upon, being able to recognize things just a

2951
02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:08,040
Speaker 13: little bit faster.

2952
02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 3: Like formations, what they might lead to, that what they.

2953
02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:12,160
Speaker 13: Might lead to, you know, at the end of the game,

2954
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:14,480
Speaker 13: at the end of the day, you react to what

2955
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:18,000
Speaker 13: you see, right right, But I think the greats are

2956
02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:22,120
Speaker 13: able to process things a little faster, you know what

2957
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 13: I'm saying. Obviously, you know, being a d line with

2958
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:25,960
Speaker 13: your hand in the dirt, there's only so much of

2959
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:28,560
Speaker 13: the picture that you can see, you know, otherwise you're

2960
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:32,760
Speaker 13: gett knocked in your mouth, you know. But but definitely learning,

2961
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,520
Speaker 13: you know, I think that's a never ending process, you know,

2962
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 13: definitely learning. You know, what areas of the game that

2963
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 13: I can process a little faster, you know, just to

2964
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 13: get a little bit, just to you know, cut the

2965
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:45,080
Speaker 13: edge just a little bit more. I think that'll be

2966
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:47,520
Speaker 13: a benefit to me as I keep, you know, working

2967
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 13: in that area. It's interesting you bring that up, because

2968
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:53,880
Speaker 13: playing on the inside you have to identify things much

2969
02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:56,160
Speaker 13: faster than when you play on the outside the edge.

2970
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:58,960
Speaker 13: And I remember playing some snaps on the inside. I

2971
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,360
Speaker 13: don't know how y'all do old time, because as soon

2972
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 13: as they take that step, the guard takes a step,

2973
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 13: you're supposed to identify what the block is and react

2974
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:07,600
Speaker 13: to it. And I also forget that I'm just going

2975
02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 13: upfield and try to go So for you to bring

2976
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:13,879
Speaker 13: that up, that's interesting because that probably is the one position,

2977
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:17,840
Speaker 13: regardless of whatever position group we're talking about, where you

2978
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 13: have to identify and react quicker than any other position group.

2979
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2980
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like now you know, like right now, lining up

2981
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 3: where you do do you this is a basic question.

2982
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 2: Do you look at the ball or do you look

2983
02:10:31,280 --> 02:10:33,080
Speaker 2: at the guy across from you to see him move,

2984
02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 2: because if he moves, you can move, because if he

2985
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:36,920
Speaker 2: moves first, it's a false start if he didn't snap

2986
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 2: the ball. So you looking at the player or the ball.

2987
02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:43,680
Speaker 13: A mixture of both, to be honest. You get some

2988
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:47,000
Speaker 13: guys that are fast, you know, I had the opportunity

2989
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:53,840
Speaker 13: to play against you know, Jason Kelce right og. Yeah, man,

2990
02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:55,520
Speaker 13: he puts that him in that ball, you better be

2991
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 13: ready to go. So like you're watching him, right, And

2992
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:01,960
Speaker 13: it's just just dependent on you know, who you're playing

2993
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:04,680
Speaker 13: against and just the flow of the game, yep, you know,

2994
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:07,840
Speaker 13: and really most importantly your technique with your coaches teachers.

2995
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:11,600
Speaker 13: So in the game though, you know, as you know,

2996
02:11:11,800 --> 02:11:14,400
Speaker 13: like you can sort of get into your own zone

2997
02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:17,160
Speaker 13: and it's clicking, right. So it's really just dependent on

2998
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:21,360
Speaker 13: who it is you're playing against and how.

2999
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 2: The game's flown so fully photocasi with us on the

3000
02:11:25,320 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 2: Texans All Access Players Edition program. After beating the Bills

3001
02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:31,840
Speaker 2: or any game you mentioned, a lot of football left,

3002
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 2: of course, and every week's big. How long does it

3003
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:37,520
Speaker 2: take and how do you sort of get the last

3004
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 2: game out of the way to focus on whatever the

3005
02:11:40,720 --> 02:11:45,120
Speaker 2: next opponent is? How difficult a process is that? Because

3006
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 2: we're basking in the glow from the outside looking in,

3007
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 2: basking in the glow of a victory over the Bills,

3008
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:53,920
Speaker 2: and it's awesome, But the Patriots are coming up and

3009
02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 2: you better be ready for them.

3010
02:11:55,080 --> 02:11:56,040
Speaker 3: So how does that go for you?

3011
02:11:57,720 --> 02:12:01,000
Speaker 13: Well, I've learned this year, you know, you take every

3012
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:04,240
Speaker 13: win and loss the same in terms of the preparation

3013
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 13: for the next week. Okay, So you know, being in

3014
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:12,200
Speaker 13: an being in a in a situation where winning you know,

3015
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 13: with some swag, you know, it's it's it's really, it's

3016
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 13: really you know, it's really nice to see. But I stay,

3017
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 13: I stay in the moment, you know, with those wins,

3018
02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:23,960
Speaker 13: I really learned to just enjoy the win. You know,

3019
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:27,320
Speaker 13: it's hard to win in this league, and it's hard

3020
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:29,240
Speaker 13: to win, you know, week after week in this league.

3021
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 13: So I take that, I take that that moment take

3022
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:33,760
Speaker 13: twenty four hours.

3023
02:12:33,800 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 4: I enjoy it.

3024
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:36,360
Speaker 13: You know, I talk about it, you know, I talk

3025
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:39,040
Speaker 13: about the good stuff. You know, obviously I talk about

3026
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:40,720
Speaker 13: the things that I want to grow in, you know.

3027
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:46,680
Speaker 13: But after that, that that that Monday, after Monday, Tuesday morning,

3028
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:50,200
Speaker 13: all right, it's done. And it's my same process with

3029
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 13: a loss too, right, you know, Ah, man, you feel

3030
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:55,640
Speaker 13: bad about it. Could have done better, you know, should

3031
02:12:55,680 --> 02:12:59,280
Speaker 13: have done better. But once Tuesday morning comes around, after

3032
02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 13: a certain time, it's gone. You know, you have to

3033
02:13:03,120 --> 02:13:05,520
Speaker 13: prepare for the next the next opponent, because the nextuponent

3034
02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 13: doesn't care if you win or lose, you know, So

3035
02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:12,200
Speaker 13: at least that's my method of staying present, you know,

3036
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:15,680
Speaker 13: staying locked in. What's the journey been like here in Houston?

3037
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 13: Spent multiple years obviously with the Jets Jacksonville off the field,

3038
02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:22,120
Speaker 13: what what has it been like being in Houstonian?

3039
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:23,120
Speaker 6: Uh?

3040
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:26,600
Speaker 13: People are nice here, people are really nice. There's a

3041
02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:32,200
Speaker 13: lot of personalities, characters. I've seen some some some funny

3042
02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:35,560
Speaker 13: looking cars. Not funny looking, but with the elbow sticking over,

3043
02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:38,840
Speaker 13: sticking out, I was like, man, like, is this safe?

3044
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:41,480
Speaker 5: That?

3045
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:48,480
Speaker 13: But man, food has been amazing here, definitely doing my

3046
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 13: due diligence and staying discipline. But food is a is

3047
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:54,840
Speaker 13: amazing here and the amount of support that you get

3048
02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:59,360
Speaker 13: from people, you know, I enjoy it. I enjoy the stadium,

3049
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:03,920
Speaker 13: enjoy just the just the aura. You know, it's been

3050
02:14:03,960 --> 02:14:05,080
Speaker 13: pretty it's been pretty cool.

3051
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:08,600
Speaker 3: Being from New York and drafted by the Jets. That

3052
02:14:08,720 --> 02:14:09,560
Speaker 3: had to be pretty cool.

3053
02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were going to play in Gotham, well, New Jersey,

3054
02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:17,240
Speaker 2: but enough and once upon a time it would have

3055
02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:18,760
Speaker 2: been Shape Stadium and it would have.

3056
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:21,840
Speaker 3: Been all on Long Island, right here where you grew up.

3057
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:22,560
Speaker 4: But what was that like?

3058
02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:24,760
Speaker 3: Being drafted by the Jets and playing in the Big Apple.

3059
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:25,360
Speaker 5: It was.

3060
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:29,160
Speaker 13: I wouldn't even I don't I won't even know if

3061
02:14:29,360 --> 02:14:31,000
Speaker 13: to call it if it was a dream come true,

3062
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:33,840
Speaker 13: because I wouldn't expect him to get picked up by

3063
02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:36,360
Speaker 13: my home hometown team.

3064
02:14:37,240 --> 02:14:37,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

3065
02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:41,080
Speaker 13: But you know, definitely got there, and I definitely enjoyed

3066
02:14:41,080 --> 02:14:44,360
Speaker 13: my moments. They enjoyed my time there, you know, despite

3067
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:46,800
Speaker 13: the adversities that we faced there. But still, you know,

3068
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:50,040
Speaker 13: I had some it was around some great guys, right,

3069
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:53,040
Speaker 13: I had some great VET leadership, you know, you know,

3070
02:14:53,160 --> 02:14:55,240
Speaker 13: at the in my early my early years there.

3071
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:57,080
Speaker 5: It was.

3072
02:14:57,240 --> 02:14:59,040
Speaker 4: It was amazing, you know, it was amazing.

3073
02:14:59,200 --> 02:14:59,360
Speaker 3: You know.

3074
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,480
Speaker 13: They definitely set me up in a way of how

3075
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:05,000
Speaker 13: to think about certain things and how to go about

3076
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 13: certain things. And I have my family there, you know,

3077
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:10,760
Speaker 13: thankfully I have a family for me. You know, we're

3078
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:14,080
Speaker 13: pretty low key grounded people. You know, we don't really

3079
02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:16,360
Speaker 13: you know, we don't really like noise, you know. So

3080
02:15:17,480 --> 02:15:19,160
Speaker 13: it's been it's been cool to just be able to

3081
02:15:19,200 --> 02:15:22,120
Speaker 13: go to work, go home, you know, on the holidays,

3082
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:25,120
Speaker 13: and family, get the church at a certain time, right,

3083
02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:28,680
Speaker 13: you know, it was dope? How far How far did

3084
02:15:28,720 --> 02:15:31,960
Speaker 13: you grow up from the facilities I was? My actual

3085
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 13: home was an hour and fifteen minutes from this facility, utiful.

3086
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:38,360
Speaker 13: My church was like forty minutes without traffic.

3087
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:40,640
Speaker 3: It's five minutes, no, just kidding, it's not that close.

3088
02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:43,680
Speaker 2: But you're gonna get some traffic going over the bridge

3089
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:47,600
Speaker 2: and over another bridge. You're gonna get some traffic. What

3090
02:15:47,720 --> 02:15:50,280
Speaker 2: about going to Jacksonville though? Was that kind of a

3091
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:53,520
Speaker 2: culture shock? Where am I Jacksonville, Florida? Because you played

3092
02:15:53,560 --> 02:15:56,920
Speaker 2: your college ball Yukon, New York area, grow up, played

3093
02:15:57,160 --> 02:15:57,720
Speaker 2: for the Jets.

3094
02:15:57,760 --> 02:15:59,640
Speaker 3: Now you're in Jacksonville to.

3095
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:02,600
Speaker 13: Be honest, it was a bit of a culture shock, right.

3096
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:06,040
Speaker 13: I was just like, Man, I'm at a target, I

3097
02:16:06,080 --> 02:16:07,840
Speaker 13: have one item in my hand. Why am I still

3098
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:10,680
Speaker 13: on line for fifteen minutes?

3099
02:16:10,720 --> 02:16:11,320
Speaker 4: What's going on?

3100
02:16:12,120 --> 02:16:14,080
Speaker 13: But it was a bit of a culture shock. You know,

3101
02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:17,160
Speaker 13: it's very laid back in Jacksonville. It's not you don't

3102
02:16:17,240 --> 02:16:21,600
Speaker 13: have the grind, you know, just everything fast paced, moving, moving, moving.

3103
02:16:21,640 --> 02:16:24,320
Speaker 13: People are very laid back. Hey, how you doing. People

3104
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:27,320
Speaker 13: actually sit down and talk about how they're doing. That's

3105
02:16:27,440 --> 02:16:31,200
Speaker 13: oh wow, you know. So it was definitely a moment

3106
02:16:31,240 --> 02:16:35,440
Speaker 13: where I won't. It was definitely a moment where God

3107
02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:38,440
Speaker 13: taught me how to slow down. So it was a

3108
02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:42,800
Speaker 13: culture shock, but I think that area I also benefited

3109
02:16:42,840 --> 02:16:45,400
Speaker 13: from two because I started to learn how to really

3110
02:16:45,440 --> 02:16:48,960
Speaker 13: take the time and just see, process, analyze, reflect.

3111
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:52,360
Speaker 2: All Right, there's some of the Texans All Access Players

3112
02:16:52,520 --> 02:16:56,600
Speaker 2: Edition program Best of with Foley Fatakasi Defensive Tackle for

3113
02:16:56,800 --> 02:16:57,560
Speaker 2: your Texans.

3114
02:16:57,640 --> 02:16:58,080
Speaker 3: Coming up.

3115
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:00,959
Speaker 2: Tim Settle also plays out the D line. Man, they're

3116
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:03,600
Speaker 2: doing a good job this year. This defense top five

3117
02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:06,800
Speaker 2: in the league. So let's keep it going against New

3118
02:17:06,840 --> 02:17:10,160
Speaker 2: England on Sunday. Let's keep the show going. More coming

3119
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:13,880
Speaker 2: up on Texans Radio. Next, it's Texans All Access final

3120
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 2: segment of the week right here as the Texans face

3121
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:19,280
Speaker 2: the Patriots on Sunday, and we talked about the D

3122
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:20,560
Speaker 2: line fully Fatocasi.

3123
02:17:20,640 --> 02:17:22,400
Speaker 3: You heard from him in the last segment.

3124
02:17:22,480 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 2: By the way, all this stuff is available via podcast

3125
02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:29,879
Speaker 2: on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts, preferably Houston

3126
02:17:29,920 --> 02:17:32,080
Speaker 2: Texans dot com, but it's all over the place, including

3127
02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:34,200
Speaker 2: the Odyssey app where you might be listening to this

3128
02:17:34,680 --> 02:17:39,120
Speaker 2: right now. Tim Settle, former Buffalo Bill, big factor on

3129
02:17:39,320 --> 02:17:41,640
Speaker 2: that D line, couple of sacks on the year in

3130
02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:44,680
Speaker 2: that rotation, and John Harrison and I this is a

3131
02:17:44,760 --> 02:17:46,720
Speaker 2: couple of minutes of our visit with him.

3132
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:47,320
Speaker 3: Tim.

3133
02:17:47,360 --> 02:17:49,440
Speaker 1: What was last week like for you seeing a team

3134
02:17:49,520 --> 02:17:52,000
Speaker 1: that you played for, you know, being on the other sidelines,

3135
02:17:52,040 --> 02:17:54,160
Speaker 1: seeing guys you know, guys you went against in practice.

3136
02:17:54,879 --> 02:17:56,800
Speaker 3: What was that like for you? Is emotional? Was it

3137
02:17:57,240 --> 02:17:59,480
Speaker 3: just another game? How'd you kind of go through Sunday?

3138
02:17:59,480 --> 02:18:01,600
Speaker 14: I guess the Bill, I feel like a lot of

3139
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:03,640
Speaker 14: the times, like I've been in a situation where I

3140
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:05,120
Speaker 14: played my former team a couple of times and I

3141
02:18:05,160 --> 02:18:07,840
Speaker 14: feel like I over looked at I mean, I ain't

3142
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:09,680
Speaker 14: gonna say overlooked. I feel like I took too much

3143
02:18:09,720 --> 02:18:12,520
Speaker 14: pride into this. This is my old team. Yeah, this

3144
02:18:12,720 --> 02:18:14,200
Speaker 14: this week, I looked at it as another game.

3145
02:18:14,320 --> 02:18:14,440
Speaker 5: You know.

3146
02:18:14,720 --> 02:18:16,920
Speaker 14: Obviously some guys that I know, you know, it's gonna

3147
02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:18,480
Speaker 14: be some smiles and some last for the game.

3148
02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:20,960
Speaker 4: But nothing changed. Uh it.

3149
02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:22,840
Speaker 14: Maybe wanted to play even better, you know, just going

3150
02:18:22,879 --> 02:18:24,840
Speaker 14: against the team, and I feel like I ain't gonna

3151
02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:26,280
Speaker 14: say I felt like slept on me, but you know,

3152
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:28,960
Speaker 14: I feel like, uh, I feel like that I definitely

3153
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:31,600
Speaker 14: could have did more in that situation over there, you know,

3154
02:18:31,720 --> 02:18:33,960
Speaker 14: but you know, everybody's Charlie Air. You know, control what

3155
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:36,000
Speaker 14: your control, and you know I moved forward for it.

3156
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:37,600
Speaker 14: I wish them the best of the luck, and I

3157
02:18:37,640 --> 02:18:38,720
Speaker 14: hope they don't got players again.

3158
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:42,400
Speaker 2: Because you were with Washington for what four years? You

3159
02:18:42,440 --> 02:18:44,720
Speaker 2: were with the Bills for two? So do you consider

3160
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:49,280
Speaker 2: yourself a former Washington player or a former Buffalo player?

3161
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:52,200
Speaker 14: More so, I would say both, you know. Uh, you know,

3162
02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:55,520
Speaker 14: I'm from Virginia, so I grew up a Washington fan.

3163
02:18:55,560 --> 02:18:57,440
Speaker 14: My family grew up a Washington fan, so we kind

3164
02:18:57,440 --> 02:19:00,520
Speaker 14: of carried that along a long way. And then transferring

3165
02:19:00,520 --> 02:19:03,440
Speaker 14: to Buffalo. You know, I definitely was a Buffalo fan

3166
02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:05,520
Speaker 14: more than a Washington fan. You know, they was winning

3167
02:19:05,600 --> 02:19:07,720
Speaker 14: up there, So yeah, you want to claim and winning team.

3168
02:19:07,720 --> 02:19:09,680
Speaker 14: You know, I feel like you give a positive reaction

3169
02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:13,720
Speaker 14: when you claiming winning team. So you know, I said,

3170
02:19:13,760 --> 02:19:15,720
Speaker 14: I claimed both of them, but more of the recent team.

3171
02:19:16,200 --> 02:19:18,400
Speaker 1: So in the locker room last week, I saw this

3172
02:19:18,600 --> 02:19:22,760
Speaker 1: on social social media asking which state had the best

3173
02:19:22,879 --> 02:19:25,520
Speaker 1: high school football, and CJ was like pointing out all

3174
02:19:25,560 --> 02:19:28,119
Speaker 1: these different states after he said California was the best.

3175
02:19:28,360 --> 02:19:31,119
Speaker 1: And of course, you know, Texans got to represent because

3176
02:19:31,360 --> 02:19:34,400
Speaker 1: it's Texas high school football. I think Virginia high school

3177
02:19:34,400 --> 02:19:37,680
Speaker 1: football is totally slept on, Yeah, totally.

3178
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:39,760
Speaker 3: I think there are tons of players that come out

3179
02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:40,039
Speaker 3: of there.

3180
02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 1: What do you say about that? What was that kind

3181
02:19:41,959 --> 02:19:43,440
Speaker 1: of your high school experience like? And how did that

3182
02:19:43,520 --> 02:19:45,560
Speaker 1: kind of get you ready for the next levels you

3183
02:19:45,640 --> 02:19:45,880
Speaker 1: went to?

3184
02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:47,400
Speaker 3: Obviously, you know.

3185
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:52,760
Speaker 14: I noticed this about all high school sports depending on states.

3186
02:19:52,760 --> 02:19:54,879
Speaker 14: You know, a lot of a lot of southern states

3187
02:19:54,920 --> 02:19:56,960
Speaker 14: played spring ball when it got pads and stuff on.

3188
02:19:57,000 --> 02:19:57,920
Speaker 3: In Virginia, we don't do that.

3189
02:19:58,160 --> 02:20:00,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, we'll do seven on seven and we'll

3190
02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:02,800
Speaker 14: keep it light and we won't have a set schedule.

3191
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:05,039
Speaker 14: You're going against other teams other than seven on seven.

3192
02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:07,920
Speaker 14: But I feel like, uh, Southern States can part trade

3193
02:20:07,920 --> 02:20:11,320
Speaker 14: more physical physicality because they practiced it twice a year

3194
02:20:11,360 --> 02:20:14,440
Speaker 14: other than teams up north. You know, it's more you know,

3195
02:20:14,520 --> 02:20:17,680
Speaker 14: when it's it's colder during the springtime, and I feel

3196
02:20:17,720 --> 02:20:21,080
Speaker 14: like we don't get that that same opportunity. But you

3197
02:20:21,160 --> 02:20:24,160
Speaker 14: look back at Virginia, guys, you got guys iconic. Yeah,

3198
02:20:24,200 --> 02:20:26,360
Speaker 14: you got Bruce Smith. You know, he still leads the

3199
02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:29,240
Speaker 14: league in sacks to this day. You got guys like

3200
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:32,880
Speaker 14: Michael Vick simulating a different a dual threat quarterback. Ivers

3201
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:36,040
Speaker 14: was a great Iverson you know the crossover, you know

3202
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:41,439
Speaker 14: this iconic guys. You got Percy Harvin, cam Chancellor.

3203
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:44,600
Speaker 3: Great area, yeah, great area.

3204
02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:46,840
Speaker 14: And it's crazy because of Virgin's broken down up in

3205
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:49,520
Speaker 14: the three. You got Northern Virginia, that's Nova. You got Richmond,

3206
02:20:49,959 --> 02:20:51,840
Speaker 14: and then you got the Seven Cities. The Seven Cities.

3207
02:20:51,879 --> 02:20:53,960
Speaker 14: You know, I say, it's a bigger area. So you know,

3208
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:56,520
Speaker 14: I feel like a lot of the a lot of

3209
02:20:56,560 --> 02:20:59,080
Speaker 14: the guys come from the Seven Cities. But depending on

3210
02:20:59,160 --> 02:21:02,320
Speaker 14: position and stuff, you like, no more offensive Lineman like

3211
02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:05,880
Speaker 14: he got d Linman, like me, he got John Allen, uh,

3212
02:21:07,360 --> 02:21:11,560
Speaker 14: the Kobe Turner around in that area. I played against

3213
02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:13,640
Speaker 14: his brother in high school. But you you got like

3214
02:21:13,680 --> 02:21:16,000
Speaker 14: a lot of like interior, you know. Then you got

3215
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:18,600
Speaker 14: guys like mccai beck, then Morgan Moses. Those guys are

3216
02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:19,920
Speaker 14: from Richmond, you know.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, Virginia's got a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not thought of because you think of

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Speaker 1: the Ohio's, the Texas and Georgia, Florida, you know, California,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. So you don't think about Virginia. No, man,

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Speaker 1: it just spit out. Some players, absolutely, the best one

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Speaker 1: that never played is Alan Iverson.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, college but I would love It's crazy because I

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Speaker 3: heard about that.

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Speaker 7: I ain't. He was just as good as a football.

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Speaker 5: He was.

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Speaker 1: He was Ed Reid to say at a safety. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was ed read before it read, and he

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Speaker 1: wasn't as big as Ed Ed was big. Check him out, Okay,

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Speaker 1: more done, will pull some stuff up as a safety.

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Speaker 1: Huh God, safety, he's great. That's interesting. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: play safety when he when he's done with the NBA,

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Speaker 1: just go play a couple of years and say in

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: If he could do it, he was probably could have

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Speaker 3: done it. He's pretty good at basketball. He's good, all right.

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Speaker 2: There's Tim Settle, and there's the show, The week of

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Speaker 2: Programs as we get you ready for Texans Countdown, presented

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Speaker 2: by Medelo Especial Sunday morning at nine in Foxborough, the

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Speaker 2: Texans will take out the Patriots, trying to run their

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Speaker 2: record to five and one. Looking forward to bringing you

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Speaker 2: the broadcast from there. Area forty five coming up next

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Speaker 2: right here. Have a great weekend, Go Texans.