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Speaker 1: Take a deep breath in through your nose. Hold it now,

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Speaker 1: release slowly again, deep in Helle hold release, repeating internally

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Speaker 1: to yourself as you connect to my voice. I am deeply,

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Speaker 1: deeply well. I am deeply well. I am deeply well.

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Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land in

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Speaker 1: your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative,

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Speaker 1: and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care.

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Speaker 1: This is where we heal, this is where we become.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. Hey, I'm Debbie Brown. This

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Speaker 1: is the Deeply Well Podcast. Oh my gosh, I have

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Speaker 1: so many thanks to say. Wow, Okay, let me ground

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Speaker 1: this episode first by just inviting everyone to take a

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Speaker 1: nice deep in hell through your nose and release it

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Speaker 1: through your mouth with a sigh. Let's stay that one

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Speaker 1: more time, deep in Hell. M nice way to ground

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Speaker 1: in the present moment. Wow. We are almost halfway through

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Speaker 1: this season of Deeply Well, which it's our first season

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Speaker 1: with the new rename of the show, and it's been

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Speaker 1: really fun because this year, well really just the last

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Speaker 1: it's been so cool. You know, the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: an interesting time. At least I guess I'll speak for myself.

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Speaker 1: Why can't I think of his name? Y'all know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Morgan Freeman, bless his character when he wrote,

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Speaker 1: you know, so and so was here, where you'd write,

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Speaker 1: you know, they'd show that on people carving that into

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Speaker 1: a tree, so and so is here. Whenever I go

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Speaker 1: to old worlds, I kind of just walk and I

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Speaker 1: smile at the art and I smile at the cobblestones,

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Speaker 1: and I smile at you know, the bricks, and I

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Speaker 1: just say, DEVI was here, DEVI was here too, Me too.

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Speaker 1: So I just love it. I'm so grateful. The wedding

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Speaker 1: I went to was absolutely beautiful. I went to the ocean.

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Speaker 1: They have this really, it's the Ionian Sea and the

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Speaker 1: Adriatic Sea were the ones that were around the island,

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Speaker 1: and I'd never been in those seas before. I'd never

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Speaker 1: been in the Ionian Sea. Please Lord, I hope I'm

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Speaker 1: pronouncing that correctly if I'm not be gentle. It felt divine.

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Speaker 1: There was a quality of silence in Pulia like I'd

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Speaker 1: never heard. I've been on the way outs before, I've

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00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: been on the tallest mountains before, I've been a lot

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Speaker 1: of different places that were quiet and remote. There has

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Speaker 1: been nothing that has had kind of the haunting silence

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Speaker 1: that Pulia has. And I was there with a wedding party,

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Speaker 1: so it was actually quite loud a lot. But anytime

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Speaker 1: I got by myself, or like when I went to

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Speaker 1: the ocean, I would hear nothing, but in a way

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Speaker 1: that I could hear everything. I hope that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I would hear I kept getting I kept getting these

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Speaker 1: words spoken to me in my brain as I would

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Speaker 1: experience the silence there, and the words were, this is

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Speaker 1: the sound of creation. This is how it sounded at creation.

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Speaker 1: It felt like I was hearing the pure universe. Like

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Speaker 1: if you ever google what the Milky Way sounds like,

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Speaker 1: or like what space sounds like, That's how it sounded.

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Speaker 1: It was remarkable. It was so haunting. It was so haunting.

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Speaker 1: So I will be back there. I don't know when,

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Speaker 1: but I really want to go back alone, or I

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Speaker 1: really want to go back with a very small, small,

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Speaker 1: small group of friends and do a silent retreat there.

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Speaker 1: There was no noise pollution, there was no light pollution,

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Speaker 1: there was no there were no conveniences of any kind.

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Speaker 1: And I love what that brings out in me. Yo.

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Speaker 1: I love the way I'm able to bloom in that

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Speaker 1: and the parts of myself I'm able to have access

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Speaker 1: to when I feel that way. It was so gorgeous

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Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful, deeply well beautiful wedding. We danced,

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Speaker 1: we laughed. God, my friend Michelle, the bride was just

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Speaker 1: like the most beautiful sight I'd ever seen. I was like, what, oh,

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Speaker 1: beautiful beautiful, beautiful couple, bless, bless, bless. So then I

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Speaker 1: had about twenty four hours left of being in that region,

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Speaker 1: and then I was racing home and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: make sure I could get my son from school after

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Speaker 1: the long weekend, and so I decided to leave Pulia

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Speaker 1: at the very last minute and book a flight to Rome.

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Speaker 1: And you know, out there, once you're on that side

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Speaker 1: on really easy quick flights. It's like an hour flight,

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Speaker 1: forty five minute flight, you know, very similar if I

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Speaker 1: was like in La wanting to fly to San Diego

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Speaker 1: or something like that. So I get on the little

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Speaker 1: you know, the the flight that operates more like a

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Speaker 1: like an uber and I get to Rome and I

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Speaker 1: end up I stayed at Soho House, Rome, which was

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Speaker 1: really dope. By the way, if you get a chance,

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Speaker 1: please go. I never stayed in those before, so it

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Speaker 1: was lovely experience, highly recommend And I only had enough

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Speaker 1: time to like do one thing, have a fantastic meal,

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Speaker 1: and then maybe a quick walk and then I had

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Speaker 1: to leave for the airport at like six am maybe,

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Speaker 1: so I had roughly twelve hours there, Like I landed

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Speaker 1: forty five to go to the airport to get home. Gratefully,

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Speaker 1: I've been to Rome before, so I've seen the magnificence

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Speaker 1: of it in so many ways. But Michael was to

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Speaker 1: just get a killer meal because I had been eating

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Speaker 1: nothing but figs and drinking espresso for the last several days.

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Speaker 1: So I thought I was going to go to Italy

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Speaker 1: and happily put on a few pounds from all the

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Speaker 1: incredible pasta, but I actually lost a couple. So I

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Speaker 1: get to I get to Rome and we get recommended

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Speaker 1: this restaurant called Rissolio Risciolio. I tagged it on my Instagram,

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Speaker 1: so check out my most recent post to see kind

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Speaker 1: of the images from what I'm talking about any tags,

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Speaker 1: I can't even begin to tell you. It was the

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Speaker 1: most incredible pasta meal I have ever had in my entire,

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Speaker 1: entire entire life. It made me cry a little, like

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Speaker 1: it was so good. I closed my eyes and I

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00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: was like slowly, like I wasn't even chewing it. I

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Speaker 1: was like pushing it up against the roof of my

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Speaker 1: mouth with my tongue to let it slowly disintegrate with

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Speaker 1: my eyes closed and a slow swallow, like that's how

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Speaker 1: good it was. And then like a little tear came

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Speaker 1: in my eye and I just started laughing. I was like,

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Speaker 1: how is it this delicious? So that level of delight

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Speaker 1: blew me away, and I was so grateful for that meal.

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Speaker 1: We had tarremisu after and oh my god, and then

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Speaker 1: a nice little quick walk around the city, you know,

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Speaker 1: late at night, which I kind of cut short because

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Speaker 1: it gets a little real in Rome and night, and

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Speaker 1: you know, made it back at enough time to fall

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Speaker 1: asleep for a handful of hours and then take a

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Speaker 1: great shower, put on a lot of lotion, some compression socks,

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Speaker 1: some comfy cloth, and go hop on a plane for

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Speaker 1: a thirteen and a half hour flight home. And by

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Speaker 1: the time I got home, summer was over. So my summer. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am so, so, so grateful, And I just want

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Speaker 1: to share that if there is a craving on your heart,

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Speaker 1: and let this be the soule work as we close

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Speaker 1: this episode, if there's something you're craving, I want you

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Speaker 1: to call it in. And I realize that for each

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Speaker 1: of us, we have different ways that we can experience

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Speaker 1: these cravings. We all have different restrictions on our time,

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Speaker 1: we all have different barriers to being able to have

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Speaker 1: even the space to take time for ourselves, and we

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Speaker 1: all have different price points for things. For each of us,

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Speaker 1: it'll look so different, but the impact doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be any less. The felt experience, the intensity of that

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Speaker 1: felt experience can be yours, irregardless of what your budget

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Speaker 1: or time allotment may be. And for some, and I

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Speaker 1: say this with such such deep honor and really honesty,

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Speaker 1: I know some people are listening to this show and saying,

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Speaker 1: there is no way because my time looks like this

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Speaker 1: and I'm working two double shifts, or I have this

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Speaker 1: level of responsibility. I'm caretaking for a parent, I'm caretaking

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Speaker 1: for a child. I know we all have, in different seasons,

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00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: vastly different burdens and life experiences, and sometimes what can

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Speaker 1: feel like real weight that can keep us from the

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Speaker 1: things that we crave, the things that we deserve, the

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Speaker 1: things that we desire. So any advice I share, I

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Speaker 1: want to I want to share with that honesty, also

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Speaker 1: humility and honor. But I do want to say that

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Speaker 1: there are remedies so that you still get something, even

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Speaker 1: if it's not the grandest of experience. Don't let that

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Speaker 1: stop you from inviting something more into your heart and life.

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Speaker 1: I think so often if we think it can't be

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Speaker 1: or look in a certain kind of way, or comparatively

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Speaker 1: it's not in a certain kind of way, or if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't fit the dream vision, then what's the point

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Speaker 1: of even attempting. But we're the point of attempting. Even

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Speaker 1: a morsel pleasure can fuel you in ways you can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: So I hope that we all find ways to give

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Speaker 1: that to ourselves and our soul. Work for today will

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Speaker 1: really be finding what that unique intention is for each

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Speaker 1: of us, for each of you, what is a kind

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Speaker 1: of experience you're craving? You know? Take my story out

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Speaker 1: of it, take the travel out of it, and think

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Speaker 1: about the intention. I didn't know how any of that

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Speaker 1: was going to manifest, but my intention was to really

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Speaker 1: come alive in new ways. My intention was to be inspired,

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Speaker 1: to be able to move slow enough that I could

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Speaker 1: pay attention to the pleasure that was available to me,

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Speaker 1: to move slow enough to pay attention to the delight

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Speaker 1: that could be possible. So for you, as you're sitting

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Speaker 1: here and you're taking in my story and taking in

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Speaker 1: these thoughts. What does that look like? What could that

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Speaker 1: be for you? For this fall? You know, doesn't just

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Speaker 1: have to be a summer of Yes, it's a fall

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Speaker 1: of blank, a fall of what. For me personally, this fall,

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Speaker 1: my attention is to have a fall of creativity and focus.

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Speaker 1: A lot of work I got to get through this

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Speaker 1: fall that I'm so excited about that. I'm really looking

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Speaker 1: to find new ways to support myself in my ability

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Speaker 1: to stay on task and to stay in excellence and

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Speaker 1: to meet the demands of my life in this moment

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Speaker 1: in time, specifically the creative demands. So that's my intention

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Speaker 1: for this season. So think about that for yourself. What's

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Speaker 1: your intention for this fall? What are you craving? What

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Speaker 1: kind of experiences? The less specific in terms of how

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Speaker 1: that will be fulfilled, the better, because that's where the

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Speaker 1: magic of the universe gets to really come in. So

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Speaker 1: think about that piece. You know, say I'm craving blank,

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Speaker 1: but don't necessarily say I'm craving a trip to Costa Rica.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe think about the ways a trip to

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Speaker 1: Costa Rica would make you feel, and then call in

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Speaker 1: those cravings, call in those feelings, and if you happen

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Speaker 1: to do that, go ahead and hit me up on social.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be trying to do that a little

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Speaker 1: more and I can't wait to read it and connect.

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Speaker 1: So have a beautiful rest of your day from listening

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Speaker 1: to this. We have some amazing guests lined up, really

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Speaker 1: special guests coming into next week's episode. And then I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to share with you my recap episode from

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Speaker 1: Women Who Heal at the Omega Institute, Queen of Fuin

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Speaker 1: and I got back from Just Wow, a truly spiritually

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Speaker 1: expansive experience, So I can't wait to talk about all

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Speaker 1: the findings and all the practices that we unpacked there

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Speaker 1: with you in an upcoming episode. Thank you for listening.

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