1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talk OTAs, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: what's the purpose, why are we here, what's the difference 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: between that a mini camp. We get into that in 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: great depth, and then we talk about the importance of 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: depth and how this team has built it. 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: And then we go to the moon. 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: We got the investment number one advisor right here, Santa Thomas. 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna tell you players to keep it one in 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. It all starts right right now. Welcome 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: to The Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Fred Smoot and Santanamos Night and we are in the 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: bubble because it's media day today and they are using 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: our normal studio for a special surprise for you fans, 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: which we're not gonna tip off here too much, but 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: it's something I think you're all gonna be ah. 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: You gotta love about it. 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, they're gonna love it. 18 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 4: I'm smiling out ready because you're gonna be really blown 19 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: away by the things this ownership group got planned for 20 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 4: the fans. 21 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 22 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: Man, we're really excited about it. 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I mean, like I heard whispers about 24 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it myself, but it sounds sounds exciting. 25 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 26 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: All right, Now that we've talked about why we're in 27 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: the bubble, we've got a live show coming up ccpod. 28 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: That's this podcast live Friday, June twentieth at the Muni. 29 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: We got merch giveaways, we love seeing you guys, and 30 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: we've got a surprised guest Washington Commander's legend that's gonna 31 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: be out there from Greatness from. 32 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: Greatness, Greatness from one from last game. 33 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: So if you like merch, and you like surprises, and 34 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: you like famous Washington football players, make sure you come 35 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: out to the Muni on June twentieth. 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It deserves to be in 67 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 3: d C. 68 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: This one thing I think me and Tana and Logan 69 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: kind of got robbed from is not being able to 70 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: play in the Nation of Capitol with the Monuments is 71 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 4: the beckdrop that would have been unbelievable. 72 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think about, well, every time I drive 73 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: by there, I'm like, how cool would it be to 74 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: play here? 75 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 76 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: It kind of have you played in Chicago, friend? Yes, 77 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of that feel, So did 78 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: you feel in the city in the city like and 79 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: it reposits the city city, So I think that would 80 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: be awesome. And again, you want it, we want it. 81 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: Make sure you support them. Go to Commanders dot com, 82 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: Black Backslash, New Stadium Now MIDI Camp is happening this week. 83 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: But we just finished OTAs, and I've been getting a 84 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: lot of questions about like what why are OTA is 85 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: a thing? 86 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: Right? 87 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: And so today on today's show, we're going to spend 88 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: a big check of time talking about why OTAs are important. 89 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: So let's start with the first second of OTAs. What 90 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: happens when you guys walk in the building or these 91 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: guys walk in the building day one of OTA. 92 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: So I had a question because you know we're here 93 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: before ot AS. 94 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. 95 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 5: So at that time that we're here, considered something different 96 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 5: than OTAs. Yeah, considered it more more so spring training 97 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 5: or see them hanging up, guys. 98 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: So this is a good I'm glad you brought this 99 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: Upton because this is something we should talk about. So 100 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: when we played, I got one year of the old 101 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: collective Bargaining Agreement, and in that agreement, a player could 102 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: come in work out whenever they wanted, but a coach 103 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: could also come down to the weight room let's say, 104 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: and grab you and be like, hey man, let's put 105 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: your helmet on, put your shoulder pads on, We're going 106 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: to go do field work. So there was really no 107 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: restriction on what the coaches could and could not do 108 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: with the player. So after the new CBA player said, 109 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: we don't want to be as around as much. We 110 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: want to feel the pressure to be here for the 111 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: whole offseason. So we started with OTAs. So basically there's 112 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Phase one O TAS, which is just lifting. You go, 113 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: you lift, you run, You'll do a little bit of install. 114 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this install portion in a second, 115 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: but basically, the offense goes to meetings, defense goes to lift, 116 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: and then halfway through you switch. You can only be 117 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: in the building for four hours. Then you go to 118 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: phase two and so now it's lifting, running, but on 119 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: the field, now coaches can be out there, so we 120 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: can run drills. I can catch football from the quarterback. 121 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: In phase one, you can't do that. Fred can play defense. 122 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: He can catch football's not from a quarterback, from his coach. 123 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: I think the hour restriction stays at four hours, so 124 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: it's still pretty tight. 125 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: Window in the building. 126 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: And then you get to phase three, which is what 127 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: was that last week, and that's a full blow. 128 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 4: You could do everything. Nothing you cannot touch. It's kind 129 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: of mental, it's kind of getting into shape. It's kind 130 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 4: of a litt bit of everything. I think when you 131 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 4: get guys back in the building, I think he's just 132 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: reintroducing the environment back to them more than you out holding. 133 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: Them accountable, if you know what I mean. 134 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: And I think that's a great point because it's really 135 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: the way they try to structure it is to kind 136 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: of slow roll it. You can see it and how 137 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: they structure it. You got no football, you got sun football. 138 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Four hours in the building for phase one and phase two. 139 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Then phase three is ratching up six hours in the building, 140 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: more meeting time, more lifting, more football. And the idea 141 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: is that it's kind of like getting into a warm bath. 142 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, We're gonna slowly turn the teen, 143 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: but you're up so you're comfortable with those more extreme environments. 144 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: But I think the other question I want to ask is, 145 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: so like when you come in and I think you 146 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: could probably relate to this, when you come in for 147 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: that first day of the offseason, whether it's new CBA 148 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: or old CBA, what was that day like? And again, 149 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: oftentimes you're just lifting, But why is it important to 150 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: be around the guys? 151 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 5: Well, that day for me was always different because honestly, 152 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 5: everybody don't get a chance to say, Okay, I'm finna 153 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: be ready by the time I come back. Most guys 154 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: take that little break and say I'm breaking. I'm really 155 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: finna get away from football. And by the time I 156 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 5: report for that Phase one, that's when I'm starting to 157 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 5: get back my insue, get back in states, get back 158 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: in shape, stage me myself. 159 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: When the Super. 160 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 5: Bowl was over with, I was back at home working 161 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 5: out with the guys that was trying to get drafted. 162 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah you see what I'm saying. 163 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 5: I was at the University of Miami making sure that 164 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 5: I'm out there with that group, getting those guys ready, 165 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 5: to getting myself ready. So I've always took on that 166 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 5: first day back different. Now. At one point in my career, 167 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 5: after being in the league now veteran, I think I 168 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 5: got to year eight, somebody told me ten to take 169 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 5: a break, and I swear I was so pissed that 170 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 5: I listened to them because I felt like, you know, what, crap, 171 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: and it was so hard to come in here and 172 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 5: in day one try to get in shape every day 173 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 5: of the week, when guys have already been in shape, 174 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: or you got younger guys that's now you know, that's that's. 175 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: Been brought in. 176 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: Brother, there's free agency or rookies from last year who 177 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 5: are now in their second year that's running there behind 178 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: you know, I mean running their behinds. 179 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: Off, and you got to keep up with them. 180 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 5: So you know, like I said, I had two periods 181 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 5: where the first period of my early part of my 182 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 5: career I came in shape, and then that that two 183 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 5: years when I took that time off, I didn't come 184 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 5: in into shape, and I told myself, I'll never do 185 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 5: that again. 186 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: I think it's more it's the players. 187 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: For me, Were you in shape when you came in? 188 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: I was so scared. I never really got out of shape. 189 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: Like did you so, I know, Tanna what you say 190 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl? 191 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of working out. 192 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: So I was kind of the same thing. 193 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: I take three weeks after season, you start doing some 194 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: lights up and start getting back into training. 195 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: Did you take a long break or. 196 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: You know what? 197 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: It depends on what that year did to me. Was 198 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: I injured that year? Did I get hurt? Am I 199 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: limping into the off season? Like I think, it's so 200 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: many other variables that we don't want to talk about 201 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: because they's just say we go in, we made it. 202 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: We had a good successful year, but I made it 203 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: out truly healthy. Now I don't really ever have to 204 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: stop working out. I don't have to work as hard, 205 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 4: but I just kept it continued. Like Tanna said, once 206 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: you out of shape, it's just hard to get back 207 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: into shape. And then just because you in shape, don't 208 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: mean you at a higher level in shape that you 209 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: need to be. 210 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: It's different shades of in shape. 211 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: I would never let myself cut outside the lines to 212 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: the point where I had to, Like I never showed 213 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: up and Kemp had to lose five pounds, Like I 214 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: never showed up and looked out of shape. So I 215 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: just felt like it was too hard to get there, 216 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: so it's not gonna go backwards. 217 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 218 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a good point because even though Ota 219 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: started what like five. 220 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: Six weeks ago. 221 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like these dudes have been training probably the 222 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: whole offseason. Like I've got a couple of NFL clients 223 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: that I trained and they start I mean, it's kind 224 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: of the same thing Tenna was saying three maybe four 225 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: weeks after the season, and they're going right back because 226 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: they understand that it's super important. So I think a 227 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: lot of fans hear that and they say, oh, they 228 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: don't start training until this day. If you're a good 229 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: pro man, and like, it's good doing the show with 230 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: you because Tanna, you're one of the best smooth obviously 231 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: your baller. Like when you talk to people who have 232 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: done it at a high level, like they're training almost 233 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: year around. 234 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to you have to do that. But 235 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: I think it's a th in line. And this is 236 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: what you're gonna have to gauge. Am I pushing myself 237 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: too far too early? I do I need to cruise 238 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: in there? That's that th in line? Did I think 239 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 4: you have to run up against. 240 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 5: But some guys know their bodies and like if you 241 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 5: have a guy who's a dude athlete, artist life like myself, 242 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 5: and there ain't no days when you want to take 243 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 5: off because you used to just football, track or whatever 244 00:09:59,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: it may be. 245 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm so, that's what happens to me. 246 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 5: Like you know, you get away from the college time 247 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 5: and you say, okay, now, now, yeah, exactly. Now, I'm 248 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 5: just a football player. I don't have to worry about 249 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: getting ready for track. But my body is hungry for something, 250 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 5: so I can't just sit around and sitting around with me. 251 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 5: Sitting around for me would have been just finding myself 252 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 5: doing some other stuff that maybe you might like more 253 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 5: than I been. Like you, right, extracurricular stuff. You know 254 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Boy, I gotta have a little like 255 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 5: you do. I always carved that out for the weekend. 256 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 5: I'll always tell myself Friday, Saturday, I'm gonna have some fun. 257 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: Sunday I'm a mile down. I'm win, I'm gonna wind 258 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 5: it down so money I'll be. I'll be shop and 259 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 5: ready to go come money time, working out, you know, 260 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 5: workout time. So yeah, I just think it's all about 261 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 5: that individual. And like you said, you don't you never 262 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: let yourself go. So certain guys different struggle with different folks. 263 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: I've seen guys that who they. 264 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 3: Don't I say that I had. 265 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 5: I wasn't in shape far far as how I felt, breathing, wise, 266 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 5: running and stuff like that. I wasn't to the point 267 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 5: of where, damn, look how that boy look? You know 268 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: what I'm so that's some guy we don't see. 269 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: You know what happens. 270 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: There are guys that use OTA's as the time to 271 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: get in shape. But I'd say most of the guys 272 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: that I'm familiar with right like that I played with, 273 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: they were in shape for OTA because you want to 274 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: look good. It's and people say, oh, it's just practice, 275 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: but it is. It's to me. 276 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: For me as a player, it was the start of 277 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: the evaluation process. 278 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 4: The camera is in the air, they watch you, Hey, 279 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: they watch you all right, And no point. I was 280 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 4: always told by somebody that played twenty plus years in 281 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: the league, don't put no bad feedom out there. 282 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: I don't care how small, do not put bad feel. 283 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: And so even for like the conditioning, I remember, you 284 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: come in and you look bad, like let's say, so 285 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: this is an example. So if Tanna comes in and 286 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: Tanna never did this. But hypothetically, if someone of Tennet's 287 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: caliber came in and looked bad in conditioning, he's okay, 288 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: oh we will get you in shape. Strength coaches dap 289 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: you up, will be all right. But if a guy 290 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: like me, who's kind of a bottom half of the 291 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: roster guy came in and was in bad shape, like 292 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: they might just cut me on the spot and be like, 293 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: hey man, no, no, no, like you're not this isn't that. 294 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: You don't love enough. 295 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: So even though it is just it's like a ramp 296 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: up period, it means different things for different people. 297 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: I just think it means a lot for all of us. 298 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 4: Like you said, let's stretch on, gonna stretch itself out. 299 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 5: But that's why good and safe thing for you though, 300 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 5: I think also to the coaches used that to see 301 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 5: who are the real pros, who are the guys we 302 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 5: can trust that when they get away from us, they 303 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: out there doing that business. And now, you know, I 304 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 5: see this guy come in like, okay, he was already 305 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: on the bubble, and then you come in looking like 306 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 5: you can't keep up, you know what I mean? So 307 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 5: I think that's a you know, and I think a 308 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 5: period where they say, look, we're gonna evaluate these guys 309 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 5: on how good they can handle time away from doing 310 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 5: something that they have to do, you know, because you know, 311 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 5: most of the guys who are good are the guys 312 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 5: that's playing or working on their craft outside of you know, 313 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: the eyeing the sky. 314 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 4: I also think that it's an advantage goes to especially 315 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: I noticed the guys that we stay here, Like I stayed. 316 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: Here in the offseas. I didn't. 317 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: I didn't go nowhere, So it wouldn't for me to 318 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: pop up here and nobody's here and just hang around 319 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: because I live here every day. And I think that 320 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: the edge goes to the guys that live locally year round. 321 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: It's your point, Fred about it always being evaluated. I 322 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: remember we had a conditioning test in twenty thirteen down 323 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: at Richmond, the first year were down there, and it 324 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: was a beast of a conditioning test. It was like 325 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: forty five second playing. We get into a run and 326 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: ray Wright gets up in front of the whole team. 327 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, guys, you know, for feeling a little 328 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: bit tight, fore a little bit whatever. No one needs 329 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: to be a hero today, Like, let's just make sure 330 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: we're ready for practice tomorrow. And so I was like, 331 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: that's that's a trap if I remember it. 332 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: For me. 333 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: So I so I gutted that thing out. 334 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: My back was cramping up, my hamstrings were all tight, 335 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: and two guys were like, oh, like they tapped out. 336 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: I would be damned if as they're walking off the field, 337 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: the head scouts like you and you come with me? 338 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: Cut them on the spot, reaper. Yeah, on the spot, man. 339 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: And this all I say is this. 340 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: If the red light is on and I'm being recorded, 341 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna give you my bit. 342 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 343 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: Never, that's I think that's the way to look at it. 344 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Never take the coaches. 345 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 5: Are watching you break, got them. I remember remember that 346 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 5: you remember doing a plant? Like boyd don fall for 347 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 5: the bananas. You quit now you're gone. 348 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: Like you meet a dude, you're introduce and this is 349 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: my girl. 350 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: Oh I'm not a threat, yes you No, I'm not 351 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: leaving my girl around the rock. 352 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 353 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: So anytime the lights on, it's uh, you gotta be 354 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: paying at tenke some time. 355 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 356 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: But I also think, like and Fred, you've talked about 357 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: this a ton, and so that you talk about it, 358 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: you've talked about it like it's so important this time 359 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: of year to kind of build those relationships strengths, and 360 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: I think that's again this is where the team. The 361 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: team isn't established it, but this is where it starts. 362 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: This is the floor. 363 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: If you cannot build a house without a foundation like 364 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: this found like this is when you become especially when 365 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: you got a guy like Lara matomsaon who just getting here. 366 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: You got guys free agency, you got guy this rookies, This. 367 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: Is how you really get to know I can't call 368 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: this a brotherhood if I don't know my brother, Like 369 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: this is the time I get to know lift things 370 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: about him. I get to know his family, I get 371 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: to know his kid's name, I get to hang out 372 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: with him away from the football field. And this is 373 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: when this and this what took us so far last year. 374 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: I think these guys really had a real brotherhood. I 375 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: am my brother's keeper. And to get that you literally 376 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: had to spend time with them, and all that time 377 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: can't be with a him and the show to pass on. 378 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that starts out, but I think so obviously 379 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: there's stuff between players which is obvious, like we're gonna 380 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: work out together and we're gonna like you know, we're 381 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna eat lunch together. 382 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: I just got here. 383 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: Tell me where I should move? Could you tell me? 384 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: I like this type of food, where's the best food? 385 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: But there is the small things. 386 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: But I also think to that point, Fred, like, it's 387 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: also like with the coaches too, Like I'm gonna build. 388 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: A relationship with the strength coach. 389 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start having conversations with my position coach if 390 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm new to the team, right, Yeah, this is where 391 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: all of that starts. Yeah, And so again, I think 392 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: it's nice that it's kind of a gradual build. 393 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: Up, you know what I mean. 394 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, here's an hour and a half of 395 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: your position coach, an hour with your position coach, Like, 396 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: get to know how that vibe works. So it's not 397 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: only the players, which is important, it's the It's something 398 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I think that Dan does a good job of. It's 399 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: the it's the players all the way. 400 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: Up to the top. You know what I'm saying. 401 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: Like Dan's building relationships now too. Yeah, and that's so important. 402 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: And like you guys worked with Gibbs. 403 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: You were with Gibbs. Yeah, we was with Gibts. 404 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like what you guys told me is that 405 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: he was really good at, like building those. 406 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: He knew people, he knew how to let people be 407 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: them by yet and I also know how to set 408 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: a standard high. 409 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: And be demanding at the same time. 410 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 5: Most of the good coaches have a way of doing 411 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 5: things that's gonna get you to you know, have those 412 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 5: bonding moments or periods where even if you wasn't cool 413 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 5: with going out with your teammates, you're gonna do it. 414 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: You're gonna do it. 415 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 5: Because we had the bowling thing with Mike Shanahan. Remember 416 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 5: we want were on to bowling alley, but we was 417 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 5: also individually every room did something on their own, you 418 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 5: know what I mean, and so like like like me 419 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: and Fred always talked about just the gambling part of it. 420 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 5: I mean, you might look at it and say, you 421 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 5: know it's wrong or they shouldn't be, but it's bonding 422 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 5: bond I mean you I've seen guys leave practice, come 423 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 5: to my house and play cards and go back to 424 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 5: practice the next morning because. 425 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: They've been over there the whole entire day and night. 426 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: We don eight, we don't order food. You know. 427 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 5: Some guys took a break and went in there on 428 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 5: my living room and conversation on the couch went to sleep, 429 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: like you know what I mean. So you get a 430 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 5: chance to really get to know somebody after just sitting 431 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: there bonding with them, playing cards or doing whatever, shooting nice. 432 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: It's a simple thing like the ping pong table, like 433 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: it is, oh the ping pong. It's just so many 434 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 4: small things that you could point to and say this, 435 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: this is what we're talking about. 436 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you know, I guess the other thing 437 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: people ask me is like, what, like what do you 438 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: get your playbook? 439 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: And you'd get it on. 440 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: That phase one because you are a meeting with the coach, 441 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: right you have it. You start going over the stuff 442 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: and so let's start talking about like installs. 443 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: I think that's important for you go understand. 444 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: And so for for me phase one, when I was 445 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: playing part of the new CBA and you were there 446 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: for a little bit ten, you had what three years, 447 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: four years with the new CBA because it was an 448 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: eleven right. 449 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: When did it come in? 450 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 5: It was eleven eleven, So yeah, I had eleven twelve 451 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 5: thirty four four years. 452 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: And so they give your playbook, you start going through stuff, 453 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: and people say, what's an install look like? And so 454 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: for the offense. I can't speak to the defense, but 455 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: we go over like day one is like the most 456 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: boring meeting. It's like, here's the cadence, here's how you 457 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: line up in the huddle, here's how we call a play. 458 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: Here are the formations. We don't even saw plays. It's 459 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: like just the formations. 460 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 461 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Then you go into the in your position room and 462 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: you talk about formations and you're like, I know this, 463 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: I got this, I got this, you know what I'm saying. 464 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: But like it's they really try to walk you out, but. 465 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 4: They have to ride because I think you're looking at 466 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 4: it as a Venturan. 467 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 3: It's another young person in his room to have a 468 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: hand it. 469 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: And I was gonna say that's the point though, it 470 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: was like they basically have to every time they do 471 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: an install, it has to be for the lowest common 472 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: denominator of the room. Yeah, which is the new guy, 473 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: new guy, the rookie, the free agent, whoever it is, 474 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: And how is it for defense? 475 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: They do the same thing, very very similar. 476 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 4: The thing about it is covering for is covering four, 477 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: covered three is covered three, COVID two is covered two. 478 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: Now what they will do is say they just started 479 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: to get philosophy as a coordinator, this is my philosophy. 480 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 4: With Mike Toumley, he was like, all he led them 481 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: to the ball. We played cover two. It's a shale 482 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: the shell. When I'm playing for Marvin Lewis with we 483 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 4: are blitzing team, we're gonna do more zone blisters than 484 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: were other teams. 485 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: Be ready to cover man the man, be ready to 486 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: run to the ball. 487 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: Like philosophy is what the coordinators get it if it's 488 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 4: in tins coordinator like. 489 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: UH coach Williams. Greg Williams, he fin the rad of 490 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: cages like that's his thing, Like he would get up 491 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: there for. 492 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: Me, freshman, you need to tackle more this year. We're 493 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: gonna be focused on you tackling more. 494 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: He did that in the first meeting. First meeting. Wow, 495 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: But he imagine. 496 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 4: He's actually gonna do it to the people he know 497 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 4: one that could take it, that could take it. Two 498 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 4: if they high ranked in the room, that's who he 499 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 4: wants to go to. 500 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: So now everybody else in. 501 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 5: The tone he says, so basically, if you a guy that's, 502 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 5: like I said on the bubble, one of those lower 503 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 5: end guys. If I'm calling out my stars, then you 504 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 5: got no, you got no choice but to take what 505 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 5: I'm giving you. 506 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: And then we just taking it. 507 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: It ain't like we were just taking all right, coach, I. 508 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: Got you what? 509 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: Also, like you know that he's doing that too, Yeah, 510 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: I know why. It kind of reminds me like the 511 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick to say. 512 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 5: Bill, it sounded like Bill Belichick all over again, like. 513 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: He's calling out Tom Brady so that everyone knows that 514 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: they they can get called out with the community. 515 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 516 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: So when people say, oh, well, like does it change, 517 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: Like so if you've been in the same system here 518 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: on here, does the install change And in my experience 519 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't really. I will say it changes a little 520 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: bit because the offense grows. 521 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: Up, say layers, they add they add pieces to you 522 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 523 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, but the whole the whole terminology factor for a 524 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 5: guy who's been there is like, Okay, this added a 525 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 5: new wrinkle, you know what I mean? Okay, you got 526 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: that in there and not Oh so now Logan could 527 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 5: actually line up here and beat up be the point 528 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 5: guy on this bunch. 529 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: Oh okay, you want me the inside. It's just you know, 530 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: and that's letting you know that that's when you know. 531 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 5: A coach or officer coordinator is comfortable with everybody knowing 532 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 5: the system a little. 533 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: Bit, and you got to have some continuity to do that, 534 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: meaning yeah, we are and to what we did last year. 535 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: Well, even if there's no continuity, like one of the 536 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: one of one of the ones I remember just for 537 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: the reason is we had a formation. It was called 538 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: north right clamp and basically it was like a kind 539 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: of a stug formation. The tight end and the fullback 540 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: were off the ball in the wing, yeah, and the 541 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: receivers were in a bunch. And so every time we 542 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: called the player, be like north right clamp eighteen force. 543 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: North right clamp right. 544 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: And so we came back the next offseason and that 545 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: formation went from north right clamp to just clamp, you 546 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 547 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: So to like, yeah, short vers, let us play a 548 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: little bit faster. 549 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: And I think that's like where the coaches it's the 550 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: same offense, but we got a little bit wrinkler. Maybe 551 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: on flag we're gonna change the landmark on the corner. 552 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: It's the same concept, but we've they the coaches have 553 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: gone the off season, they studied the film, they made 554 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: a tweak, So there are some changes but on the 555 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: whole it's the same. And I think that's one of 556 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: the reasons why, like Kyle, Kyle and Sean used to 557 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 1: both say this, it takes three years to learn an offense. 558 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: People say that's a long time, But what they mean 559 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: by that is. 560 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: Like to get every DT motions alignment position, like I 561 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: had to know like on certain like combinations when I 562 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 1: was the point man in bunch, Like let's say it's choice, 563 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: Like usually on paper it's a three yard split, I'm choice. 564 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: We wanted to be a five yard splat so Tanny 565 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: could see the choice a little bit. 566 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: And so even though it's. 567 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: The same concept learned like now in year two, I know, hey, 568 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: I got to wide out in this concept. So it's 569 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 1: the same installed like on the whole, but there are 570 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: subtle tweaks here and near same thing with the defense. 571 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: They had the same thing with the defense. They add 572 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 4: a little bit more to I played. If something that 573 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 4: they thought was gonna work the year before it and 574 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: then it didn't work, they're gonna tweak it and say, 575 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: we can't play cover too flat anymore. We need London, 576 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 4: we need the middle lineback of the run with number three. 577 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: Because all year round number three were getting open. I 578 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 4: was stopping right in the curve. So we would we 579 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: would we would actually start to fit the coverages to. 580 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: The players we had. 581 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: If you know what I mean, Let's say I got 582 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: a range, you guy like Sean Taylor in the middle 583 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: of the field. I know only I never go I 584 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 4: never run out the post anymore. Like I should tell 585 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: a guy they be like, why are you on these comebacks? 586 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 4: Because he in the post? 587 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 588 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: You got more time? 589 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's an interesting thing too, is because 590 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: like the coaches come into OTAs, which is what we're 591 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: talking about, with an idea of what they want to be, right, 592 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: So there's one kind of off season retooling, but then 593 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: going into training camp there's another retooling, and then after 594 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: the first four games there's another retooling because they, yeah, 595 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: the personnel is a little bit different. 596 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: It changes a little bit different. 597 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to think of a good example, Like 598 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: I think I feel like this happened to you, Tanna, 599 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Like you were expected to have a certain role and 600 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: then your role grew as the year went on because 601 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: you're winning your one on ones, and like that's good coaching. 602 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: It's basically saying like we thought this thing, actually it's this, 603 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: And I think that that's again with the installs, it's 604 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: always changing. It's always evolving to fit the personnel, which 605 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: I think is incredibly incredibly important. Now you talked about 606 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: team chemistry, Fred, and I think team this is a 607 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: great time to build team chemistry. But obviously there's a 608 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: couple of guys you aren't here. You know, Terry's on here, 609 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: Laramie's not here. Laramy showed up today at how good 610 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: does he look? 611 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: By the way a mountain that runs? Yeah, you're saying 612 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: to me, Tana, he looked athletic. He don't look like 613 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: an off of the line. 614 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: He's got like twitched up legs and those are and 615 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 4: calves those out of tackles that it's hard to beat. 616 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 4: Like every time I see a tackle with with with 617 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 4: what I call linebacker. 618 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: Legs, Yeah they are linebacker legs. 619 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, all right, that's a 620 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: pasts block right there. 621 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 3: He he looks built up. He looked like a man's maen. 622 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: So I played with him in Houston, so I wasn't 623 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: wrap him up and I forgot like just how well 624 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: it's not even it's just like he's solid. Yeah, you 625 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: know you hug you'll like hugging offensive lineman and it's 626 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: like there's some soft spots. Yeah, it felt like you're 627 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: hugging a brick. Yeah, the mean like, oh. 628 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: Oh no, he looks to part like he get off 629 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: the bus first, please, sir. 630 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: That's what you want when you're going to play a game. Yeah. 631 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: So obviously really excited Laramie's here for for a minatory 632 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: mini camp. But you know with Terry, Marshawn and some 633 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: other guys have miss days here and there. 634 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, let's be honest us as players, 635 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 4: we don't get into other people beings. When it comes 636 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 4: about you know it's time to get pay, you go 637 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 4: handle it now, you go handle. 638 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: It locker room, especially someone like Terry the locker. 639 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 4: Room is always quiet and got his back and be 640 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: like no, handy, you'll be in this. And the other 641 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: two guys they was from other teams. We don't know 642 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 4: they out season. 643 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: I was about to say, like I think that's something 644 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: that maybe people sleep on. Is like I'm not paying 645 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: a different reg I'm not throwing this guy under the bus, 646 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: but like Trent under new CBA. Williams did not come 647 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: to OTAs. He just didn't come. He'd come to the 648 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp. 649 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 4: But he also had a trainer. And this the thing, 650 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: like some guys are just comfortable with the people they train. 651 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: And they and I don't have a problem with it. 652 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: Like basically, if you're ready, if that's how you get 653 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: ready for the season, you're going to be a Pro 654 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: Bowl left tackle great Like DeShawn used to miss stuff too. 655 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: He used to miss voluntary OTA's right, and so when 656 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: he'd show up for Mini caamp, he'd be in amazing shape. 657 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah you catch every ball and you're like, okay, cool. 658 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: And now like again, I coach a couple of guys 659 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: that are playing for different teams, so I'm not sure 660 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: they do it here. But now with all the Zoom 661 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: stuff that came out of COVID, Like I was training 662 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: a guy the other day and he was like, oh, 663 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: I actually got to bounce it too because I got 664 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: a Zoom meeting with my coach to go over the install. 665 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: So he's down here, coaches in different state and he's 666 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna have a meeting to do the install. So we again, 667 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: we don't know, but they might they might be meeting with. 668 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: But I heard, I heard when the coaches speaking said 669 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 5: that my Shan is being caught up on all the 670 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 5: formations and all the coverages and stuff like that, so 671 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 5: he does talk to them. I'm not sure if it's 672 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 5: a zoom with just a phone conversation, but one I 673 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: believe it was. 674 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 3: Joe spoke about it. 675 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 5: Joe Junior spoke about it the other day that that 676 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 5: day in contact with my Sean and they going over 677 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 5: everything that's being installed. So he's called up to speed mentally, 678 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 5: it just to be a bout what he's doing. Physically, 679 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: they don't know because they can't see it, but they'll 680 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 5: see it once he come in. 681 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so from like a mental standpoint, not that worried 682 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: about it. From a physical standpoint, and not that worried 683 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: about it. But you know, Fred, you talk about how 684 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: important this is for team chemistry and bonding. Yeah, And 685 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on the spot, but like, 686 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: does it hurt that they're not here? 687 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: It feels like no, but like. 688 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 4: It's like this is not a big thing, but come on, 689 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 4: it all would be good. If we was hitting for 690 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 4: one hundred percent, it'd be great. But no, like I said, 691 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: because I don't know the off season routine. 692 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: I don't know they train. 693 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 4: Like you said, if he shows up, he's a Pro 694 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 4: Bowl left tackle, who cares what he's doing doing ot 695 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 4: as Now would it be helpful? Yes, I'm just not 696 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 4: gonna make a big deal out of it. 697 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: But also I think too, like one of the things 698 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: that we've that Dan's talked about is building this culture. 699 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: We've got Bobby Wagner, We've got zach Ertz, We've got 700 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: these other guys here. 701 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: So when someone who hasn't been here. 702 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, shows up, now we've got the culture that can 703 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: bring him in real Yeah. 704 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: I totally understand. 705 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 4: But we don't know Jim because he's ain't here on me, 706 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: he not communicating with teammates, not communicating with the coaching staff, 707 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: not accent the guys in the caffetereer. 708 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: What should I you know? 709 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 4: Like, you just don't know how much connectivity that it 710 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 4: is between these guys and what's really going. 711 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: And the other thing people sleep on is sometimes it's 712 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: actually better when the veterans aren't there, Like when Julio 713 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't come in Atlanta, all the young guys reps. So 714 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: Julio came in and was ready to roll. But while 715 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: he was gone, like all the young guys getting reps. 716 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: So you're getting guys better. So I look at Tremos 717 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: and like with Marshall Nunn here he's got to learn 718 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: the whole thing a little bit. Just more reps, gets 719 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: more practice. And I think that speaks really nicely to 720 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: the next thing, right, which is in the offseason program, 721 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: like how do you build your depth? And there's a 722 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: multitude of different ways to do that for agency, trades, draft. 723 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: So looking at this offseason, looking at the OTAs is 724 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: how has this team built its depth? 725 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 3: I think they did it fifty to fifty. 726 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 4: They did it through free agency, and they did it 727 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 4: through draft and Will they drafted Will. Last year they 728 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: had another draft. I think this year it's going to 729 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: arrive with a one from last year. And I think 730 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: what they really did do for the last year and 731 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: a half they made sure the free agents that they 732 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: brought in here a top tier free agency. Yeah right, 733 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: when you look at when we gave up draft picks 734 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 4: for free agents, one of the best left tackles in football, 735 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: like marshau kasists his top corner in the league since 736 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: in the league and Deebo Samuels a Swiss sum and 737 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 4: k if they could do a little bit of everything 738 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: brings an edge to your tape, I mean, to your team, 739 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: and bring some I dinity to your team. 740 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: I thought they just did a good job. 741 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: But when we say we're going to sacrifice something, we 742 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: gotta get something back. 743 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 5: And this is what they did, yees, something that we 744 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: haven't done in the past. I think, you know, I 745 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 5: spoke about this a while back. For so long this 746 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: organization was based on the name of the guy instead 747 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 5: of how he fits this team scheme. And then you 748 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 5: look at it now the last two years, you know 749 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: what I mean, We've been hitting on all ceilingers, were 750 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 5: getting the right kind of guy to fit a need 751 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 5: or fit a void. So I think it's tremendous just 752 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 5: having that kind of leadership in the front office of 753 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 5: AP and his staff just knowing, Hey, this is what 754 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 5: we need to do, so our guys can go out 755 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 5: there and do what they do. Our coaching staff can 756 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 5: go out there and lead his team in the right direction. 757 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 5: Again by making sure and even when you get rid 758 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 5: of a guy that you probably didn't want to get 759 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 5: rid of John Allen, you go out there and replace 760 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 5: him with another Kenlaw, somebody who's capable of filling that 761 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 5: boyd or maybe even showing showing more with his youth, 762 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I'm not sure how far 763 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 5: im removed he is from John's age, but you know 764 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 5: you got Newton to yeah, you still have. 765 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: Young talent day. 766 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: So I just think it's tremendous though, just seeing how 767 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 5: they went out there and say, this is the groceries 768 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 5: we have to pick, and we're gonna pick the best, 769 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 5: best pieces of fruit, best pieces of vegetable to make 770 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 5: sure that you know, our gives is high in protein. 771 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 772 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: I think the other thing that I look at too 773 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: is and Fred's mentioned this a bunch is the development 774 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: actually too. So not only did they go out and 775 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: find good people, but I look at Jean Baptiste and 776 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: the Ota practice size, I look at McGee and the 777 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: Shape's and yeah, Hamilton, I look at some of these other. 778 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: Pieces, titler Owens, all of these os. 779 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: It's a great pool and they look to be like 780 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: guys that haven't taken that step yet but could very 781 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: well do that. 782 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: Go to the next level. 783 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: And I think everybody that they brought in has another 784 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 4: gear that he can go. I think everybody has another 785 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: gear they can go. 786 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: Which is again, like I think is when youhen you're 787 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: talking about Team Billion and I know we're like hyping 788 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: the team up and we're excited obviously, but. 789 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: They earned this. 790 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: They earned this, Like like last year, at the beginning 791 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 4: of last year, everybody was kind of afraid to believe, 792 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: and now that they went out and showed us, we're 793 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: kind of afraid to keep talking about it, Like it's 794 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: not realistic what they did. It's realistic. This is who 795 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: this team is, This who this fan base is. You 796 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: got a quarterback, you got a leader in coach Quinn, 797 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: you got a chance. 798 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: I totally agree. I mean, how do you feel about 799 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: You feel good about that? 800 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 5: Now I feel great about it. I think Fred hit 801 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 5: on the head last year was more so pitched myself. 802 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: I don't believe. I need to see this being real. 803 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 5: But now what it's said and done going into year two, 804 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 5: you have to understand, like, this is what those franchises 805 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 5: that you see consistently going in to the POS season 806 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 5: of Kansas City Baltimore. Yeah, you know, Buffalo, you know, 807 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 5: this is what we're trying to be. This we're trying 808 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 5: to be those guys that that that franchise, Like I 809 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 5: was talking about when it comes to the wins and 810 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 5: losses predicted, but if you showed me the same caliber play, 811 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 5: then we have a better chance of repeating what we 812 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 5: did last year than not. So that's what I'm about. 813 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 5: I'm loving the fact that now we have to get 814 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 5: out of that bad hook and cook that we was 815 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: in for so many years of just turmoil, just thinking 816 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 5: the worst about every situation. Just down because now you 817 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 5: see here, they they shows you what they have and 818 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 5: now it's up to them to go out and continue 819 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 5: to play that way. And what we have in our 820 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 5: staff and our coaching staff, I don't see them playing 821 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 5: the other way. 822 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's gonna be tough, but I think they've 823 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: made some really good decisions, like really good offseason acquisitions, 824 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: really good off season development strategies for certain guys. So 825 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: even though the schedule is gonna be challenging, the season's 826 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna be more challenging, it's an exciting opportunity. 827 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: Well, another thing I thought. 828 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: We could talk about is obviously depth is something that 829 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: people talk about a lot, but when a team is 830 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: building depth and this is something maybe you've experienced in 831 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 1: their scene, like when a team is building depth, like 832 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: do you want like you want the guy that's backing 833 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: up a dude to be different or do you want 834 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: it to be very similar to the guy that that's. 835 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: Ahead of them? And I think there's a I think 836 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: there's a multitude of ways to look at that. 837 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: I say, I don't think it's a right or wrong way, 838 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: and it ain't. 839 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I want consistency first and foremost, 840 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 5: but I won't mind having a different type of player 841 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 5: to fill in. I don't want the same I don't 842 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 5: want another Fred Smove when Freds move go down. 843 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: Would it be fair to say tanna like I was 844 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: thinking about it when when the producer Jason askeds this question, 845 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, you just want dudes that can play. 846 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 4: I don't care your load, your loads, you got the 847 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 4: skill set to play on this level. 848 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: I don't I don't care about your shape. 849 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 4: I don't care about anything about it because I think 850 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 4: if a variety brings up different chances for my coach 851 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 4: to keep us in the game. 852 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: What if the matchup this. 853 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: Week ain't good for Fred Smooth, what if it's better 854 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 4: for a five eight corner to go against this dude, 855 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 4: Hey gold in there. 856 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 5: I back up perfect example. You've been on this team. 857 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 5: We had pr starring at X. You didn't know some 858 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 5: some weeks we had Josh Morgan or Lennard Hankerson starting 859 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 5: at Z and then you had me coming in that gator. 860 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 3: And then when we getting a get in one. 861 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 5: Of those games, we need to you know, somebody need 862 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 5: to go and take the top off. We put all 863 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 5: in there at Z. So you had the consistency of play. 864 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 5: All those guys made plays. All of us made plays, 865 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 5: but you had a variety of body type challenge, you 866 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like skill sets. All our skill 867 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 5: sets was different. Josh Morgan was gonna run every route, 868 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 5: catch every ball. Pierre was gonna run every route faster 869 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 5: than everybody on your team. 870 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: Mean mug you. 871 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 5: Doing They Ya caught everything, smooth route runnerknew the whole defense, 872 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 5: like you know, like the back of his hand. 873 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: And then you had Al he just put him on 874 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 3: the field. 875 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 5: He gonna he gonna take the top off every time, 876 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 5: every single time. 877 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: It's funny because it sounds like you want. 878 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: Both, Yeah, we want both. 879 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want because you want the consistent. 880 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: You want the standard of player to remain the same 881 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: out who's in there, no matter who. It's also like 882 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: with the receivers. I think about it all the time. 883 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: It's nice to have different. 884 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 5: Different body type, body type, skill sets all that. 885 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: And I think about like defensive lineman for example, anybody 886 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: who's gonna win on one on one like as the offender. 887 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: So I think if defensive lineman is like the offensive element, right, Yeah. 888 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: You want different body types. 889 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: You want to power rusher, you want a speed rusher, 890 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: but you want to make sure that you're getting production 891 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: from all of them across the boarder. 892 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: And I want them to rush as a group. 893 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: The best d lineman wants that Russia as a group, 894 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: not that rush independently. That's why I have these back 895 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 4: and forth me and be missed with talking today. I 896 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 4: have the back and forth with everybody about what's the 897 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: most important edge Russia. 898 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 2: Interior love this comer. 899 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: I am interior Russia every week all day long. 900 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: Oh I just want a good pass rushing. 901 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know it. But if you ask me 902 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 3: smooth when. 903 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: You want to meet on your defense, give me a 904 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: one sound they let me cut inside. 905 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: You know that's That's where it gets. 906 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 5: It gets sketchy because you if you're getting that that 907 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 5: guy to have that pressure in his left Yeah, it 908 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 5: makes it hard. 909 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: It makes it hard for. 910 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 4: Take Aaron Donald as much as I love Julius Peppers 911 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 4: and send me and Rice and all them Edges and 912 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 4: Michael Parss get me a hand done. 913 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 3: You can give me somebody right up the middle. 914 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: And I will say they because of their proximity to 915 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: the football, they can affect runs and pass the whole 916 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: game both ways. They can affect it right, So friend 917 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: might be honest something there. The other thing I wanted 918 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: to say was I forgot I was gonna talk about 919 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about death right. 920 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: We went depth, and we went the difference in the depth. 921 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: Do you want to consistent or do you want different? 922 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: So that thanks Fred, I appreciate it because the thing 923 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: I was thinking about. But with offensive line, I want 924 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, I want them to be the same. 925 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 926 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't want different bodies. I want a whole bunch 927 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: of big, big, bigger. 928 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: So I want them to fit my system and I 929 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: want them to all kind of be a certain type 930 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: of way. 931 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 4: You know, I can see why you want the choir 932 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 4: almost choir fix where you want your baritones that all hell, 933 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: these deep voices, you know what you want them to 934 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 4: be on the court. But you know that choir sound 935 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 4: good when you got like all these different well they 936 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 4: come to get he to make one sweet. 937 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 2: Sight for for sure, with a receiver. 938 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: With running backs, I want some variety DB's, I want 939 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: some variety. 940 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: Even running back I want variety. 941 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 942 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: But with offensive linemen, for whatever reason I want them. 943 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 3: I'll pick up trucks. Yeah, I'll pick up trucks. 944 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Okay, So this is one that Jason 945 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: Asa said. I think it's a really good question. 946 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: What is your under the radar position group that got 947 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: better with depth. 948 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: Front the back? 949 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 2: Why? 950 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, when you look at what we 951 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 5: had last year alone, I think when you have a 952 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 5: b Rob, you have an Austin Eckler. Those two alone 953 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 5: they kind of like carried the low last year for 954 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 5: the most of the season a period of time, and 955 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 5: that we had to lean on the Rodriguez, we had 956 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 5: to lean on the Matt Nichols. So that was already 957 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 5: to me a pretty stout you know, running back room. 958 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 5: Then you add a guy in merit this year that 959 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 5: now you don't know what we're gonna. 960 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 3: Do with all these guys. 961 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 5: You know, these guys a fanna be they're gonna be 962 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 5: fighting claw every rush. So you look at that alone, 963 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 5: not knowing what's gonna happen come this season. That's a 964 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 5: beefy running back room. Because you want two or three 965 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 5: guys you can say we're good. We got four or 966 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 5: five guys that any one of those guys get a chance. Yeah, 967 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 5: they can kind of carry this team, you know what 968 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 5: I mean, carry it back for. 969 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 2: So we saw him today. 970 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a running back. He's a dude. He's a 971 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: running back. 972 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: Big. 973 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: I've always thought in my mind, you know, watching the 974 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: films cap back, cat back. 975 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's no, he's a big back. Yeah he's big. 976 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, Like, it's one. 977 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 5: Thing of being back, but it's another thing when you 978 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 5: look like one, Yes, you can go out there and 979 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 5: stretch your stuff, but. 980 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 3: Then why I go linebacker? 981 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: Right? 982 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 4: You see la k Ma Dronald boy, you want to 983 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 4: talk about it. I think he's gonna be a steal. 984 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 4: When we look back three years from now, they're gonna 985 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 4: be like How did everybody pass on this guy in 986 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 4: the draft? You know it happens all the time that 987 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 4: what happened to Londey? Are you running four to three 988 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 4: and everybody passes on you? And today realize he a 989 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 4: yellow jacket is too late? I think add him to 990 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 4: that linebacker room. Uh, you know, Hampton goes back and 991 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 4: forth from from two linebacker and the young Key McGee, McGee, 992 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 4: Jordan McGhee. I'm very excited to see what he gots 993 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 4: to bring. 994 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: To the table. 995 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 4: And that's deep from last year's dram that we didn't 996 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 4: get to see. 997 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 3: Uh kind of mature. 998 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's interesting that you guys both picked 999 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: positions where they did make additions, but a lot of 1000 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: the depth from last depth developmental depth. 1001 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like you talked about it's almost like 1002 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: we produced the segment. 1003 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about it four. 1004 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: But it's like you get a guy, a draft pick 1005 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: that we're excited about in Madrano and merit. 1006 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: But then also you look at like the linebacker group. 1007 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: To me specifically, it's like Dominice Hampton at practice looks different. Yes, 1008 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: he's a big physical dude, right, McGhee looks different, just 1009 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: built like A and for fifteen and so you look 1010 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: at that and I say, Rodriguez has gotten better. 1011 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: Man, Nicholas is so consistent and. 1012 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 4: So Rodriguez like he trimmed up. Yeah, that's good, he's 1013 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 4: trimmed up. 1014 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 5: You can always say when a guy looked good without 1015 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 5: the pass on but in the uniform, yeah you know, 1016 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 5: yeah yeah. 1017 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: But but again, like to your point, like what is 1018 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: and how do you create that? I think those are 1019 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: really good examples for me. I'm gonna say safety, I 1020 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: knew you were gonna go, say, dude, it just feels 1021 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: like there's not so much better. 1022 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 4: I think people don't know what we got in real hairs. 1023 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 4: I know what we got in real hair. 1024 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: Dude. 1025 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: Watching him at practice and again like this is a 1026 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: little bit like because it's O t As, I don't 1027 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: want to get too excited. 1028 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 2: I want to keep it real. 1029 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: But like his ability to cover multiple positions a tight 1030 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: end Slott like we were talking about it on the 1031 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: on our on our live show and if you want 1032 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: to watch you know O t A's or mini camp 1033 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: with us, we do a live stream of practice where 1034 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: we give our real time insights. 1035 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: Make you check that out. 1036 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: It's on the stream and make sure you hit that 1037 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: Q show that tickets through our show. We really appreciate it. 1038 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: But basically like the flexibility he gives you. 1039 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 4: And with Kwan, yeah, they're both coverage guys and guess 1040 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 4: what to an outfits? Where where are they coming from? 1041 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 4: Like where are they coming from? You know where he's. 1042 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 3: Going to be. He's almost like a position called joker. 1043 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: They both. 1044 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 3: You can pick and choose. 1045 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 5: Like we had a point in our our career in college, 1046 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 5: me and Reggie where he played X for so long 1047 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 5: and we both knew each other position. I'm like, man, 1048 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go extra day just to change up the defense. 1049 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 5: Was like, cause you watched all week loan me at 1050 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 5: Zee off the ball and now I'm come into the game, 1051 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 5: I'm on the ball and I'm I'm on the side 1052 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 5: where there's no tight end. So now you get that 1053 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 5: in a Kwan and you get that in a wheel hair. 1054 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 3: Like these guys. 1055 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 5: Both heading the rock and roll, they can basically say, hey, 1056 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 5: I got you can go down there and you know 1057 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 5: what I mean, you match your well with that guy, 1058 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 5: you go get them, you know. 1059 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: What I mean. 1060 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 5: Now that's gonna that's gonna cast some some loan none 1061 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 5: for you to diagnose what we in Yeah, yep. 1062 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: And I think it kind of again it fit's your 1063 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: same philosophy right there. 1064 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: Made a nice edition. This one was in the free. 1065 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: Agency, adding depth that allows Percy Butler to be in 1066 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: that third safety role. 1067 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 3: Yep. 1068 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: You look at Tyler Owens. 1069 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: Man, that's who I I think. 1070 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 2: But like, but we talk about guys that could develop. 1071 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: Tyler Owens is this dude this He's one of these 1072 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 4: on every team where I know, if I get hurt, 1073 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 4: I never might get my job back. 1074 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: I love that, you love that feeling that you're describing. 1075 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 4: But you know what I'm talking about, right, and every 1076 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 4: team has one of these, dude that I'm about the bus. 1077 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm right there at the cuffs. Now, just 1078 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 4: let me be great and DN that injury happens to the. 1079 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 3: Dude in front of him. And now the trading, yeah. 1080 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 2: It happens, it happen, never gets the job back. And 1081 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: so there's him, there's Revos back. 1082 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Revote Steel there. 1083 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 2: And they've got some young guys that I'm really excited about. 1084 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: You know, Ben Nichols is that freaky tester kid from 1085 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: Iowa State, A couple of years ago they got the 1086 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: kid from Jackson State that they signed the UDFA who 1087 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: looks he looks like Jeremy Chitt on the field. Yeah again, 1088 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna be that guy. But they've 1089 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: got some interesting death pieces. I think Tyler Owens could developed. 1090 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: I love the additional Will Harris. So those are kind 1091 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: of my uh I think sneaky under the radar editions. 1092 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: All right, now it's time to play a game. We 1093 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: always love games on the show, and this one's called 1094 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: to the Moon, right, and our guy Santana is a 1095 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: big investment guy. Yeah right, So we're gonna use our 1096 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: commander's coins to invest in the future. And if you 1097 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: got you guys don't know this about Tanna, but Tanna 1098 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: is locked in when it comes to investments. Man, he's 1099 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 1: always got the next big thing of real estate. 1100 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: Here. 1101 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: This guy's doing this, this bitcoin is doing that. He's 1102 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: locked in. So maybe we'll start with you, Tanner. 1103 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1104 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: So we got three categories. We got blue Chip, blue Chip, 1105 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: by the Dip, and Diamond hands. 1106 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1107 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 2: Okay, so those are the different coins we're using. 1108 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 4: All right, you don't make a lot of money out 1109 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 4: of blue Chip, because it's already, it's always it's always 1110 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 4: it's too late to buy. If you're talking about making it, 1111 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 4: it's funning me. 1112 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,919 Speaker 3: You know, too late. You should have got in ago. 1113 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 5: So you got described those blue Chip is a large 1114 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 5: or establishing sound. 1115 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 2: It's the McDonald's already, it's like that. How would you 1116 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 2: describe Coca Cola. 1117 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 3: Fortune, Fortune, Fortune, five hundred sp walmart S and P five. 1118 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: That's why Tennis our guy. So if n do you 1119 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: wanna do you want to start us off? 1120 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1121 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 5: So you know, off the top, and I'm hoping I'm 1122 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 5: getting to the way Jason, you know designed this. You say, 1123 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 5: if I want to spend some money and I'm gonna 1124 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 5: go blue Chip, who's the guy who's the for show guy? 1125 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 5: And I can't you know, I know we haven't talked 1126 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 5: about him being here right now, but if I have 1127 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 5: to relyow on anybody, a blue Chipper would be my 1128 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 5: Terry mcclaurin. 1129 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm you're gonna put that coin down even though he's 1130 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: out here right now. 1131 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because I know he'll because he gonna be 1132 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 5: that's look at this guy, like your investment guru. 1133 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 2: Who's the guy with the Butcher sound take it to 1134 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 2: the bank. 1135 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 5: Command is without seventeen out there on the fist. Yeah, 1136 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 5: he's the commanditary. So that would be my blue chip guy. 1137 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 5: I just feel like I'm a receiver. It's only right 1138 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 5: for me to pay homage to a guy who I 1139 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 5: feel like, by the time he's done, he's gonna be 1140 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 5: arguably one of the better receivers that ever came through 1141 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 5: this building. As a draft pick, you know what I 1142 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 5: mean to be drafted here by this organization. I think 1143 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 5: right now he's already in the top four or five 1144 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 5: when it comes to consecutive you know, a one thousand yard 1145 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 5: seasons and just being consistent every year, year and years. 1146 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: We're talking about Tann That just it feels it feels 1147 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: like the right investment. 1148 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the right one. I mean, I can't, I can't 1149 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 3: lose it. 1150 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 5: I go to sleep at night and oning Terry's there. 1151 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 3: Good, good over there. I'm gonna invest mine and Daniels Coin. 1152 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 3: I'm down best Mine and Daniels Coin. 1153 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: You know you're frying Applestock right now, because. 1154 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 4: I believe that, you know, the ultimate force multiply, he's 1155 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 4: the guy that changes everything, you know what. The quarterback 1156 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 4: just The quarterback is the face of a franchise. The 1157 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 4: quarterback is the soul of a franchise. A quarterback is 1158 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 4: the reason that you always know, I got a chance 1159 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 4: to win every game, no matter what game win. If 1160 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 4: you got a quarterback, you got a chance. I'm going 1161 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 4: JD five Daniel Coin right now. 1162 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: And I also think because of what the staff's done 1163 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: to support him. Right, Offensive lineman, playmakers are those positions. 1164 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 1: Year or two we talked about insul and offense. 1165 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 4: He's it's similar to when Apple dropped the iPhone. When 1166 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 4: Apple dropped the iPhone, they took seventy of the singular 1167 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 4: phone mobile share and they did it in less than 1168 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 4: a year. 1169 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's I love both those. I'm 1170 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: gonna go a little bit, a little bit maybe off 1171 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: the beaten pack, but I think this is one hundred 1172 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,919 Speaker 1: percent bootship. One hundred percent is Terron Pain. 1173 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 3: Oh Pa, I think you could have had it year. 1174 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: I think he's just I think John's gone. And this 1175 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: is not a knock on John, but think about your 1176 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: entire career, man, Like, if you've played with Reggie your 1177 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: entire career. 1178 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 3: You'll be ready to break up. 1179 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're behind, but you know. 1180 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 3: What's so crazy, and I don't want to cut you off. 1181 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 3: I was gonna use. 1182 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 5: Him for the for the buying and dip dude, because 1183 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 5: I feel like he could finish eat both of those. 1184 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a great. 1185 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: That's why I was on the fence. Is he a dip? 1186 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 2: Is he a guy? 1187 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: Ye feel like because of the shape that he's in, 1188 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: watching him at practice, watching his conditioning, like the way 1189 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: the coaching staff's talking about him like they're gonna feature him, 1190 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: and when you feature him, like he might not have 1191 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: eleven sacks, but he's gonna be disruptive as all outdoors. 1192 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna let him just go and he's gonna if 1193 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: he plays a three technique man, yeah, he could be devastating. 1194 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 3: Do you feel like he's basically Bobby Brown into a dish? 1195 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 3: He just he was good with him, but he needs 1196 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 3: to go out by and again. 1197 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: And people say always that because John was was and 1198 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: it's and it's because like, imagine if I was with 1199 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,720 Speaker 1: a guy older than me, you're always going to defer 1200 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 1: to that guy, and so now he's gone and it's 1201 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: your room. Like hearing their coach tap talk about him, 1202 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: it's like He's the alpha. 1203 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 2: It's his thing. 1204 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: And when people start talking about a guy that is 1205 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: a physical freak as being the alpha in a room, 1206 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, he's got to be ready to rock. 1207 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: Ye. So, and it might be a little dippish. 1208 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 5: The only reason I would say it's dippish because of 1209 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 5: Super Yeah, he was already a couple of years ago 1210 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 5: he was the guy, and then last year was a 1211 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 5: little quiet season from still played goury just to have 1212 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 5: the sacks that we normally used to him having. So 1213 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 5: you know, when I'm in the stock market and I'm 1214 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 5: seeing stocks that as good and they dip and I bam, 1215 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 5: I'm bound when they didn't have the great year, a 1216 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 5: great or a great quarter. So that's that's why he 1217 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 5: fits in that binding deal. But he's still one of 1218 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 5: those stocks where I can honestly see that. 1219 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: I think that more speaks to how confident I am 1220 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be good, you know. 1221 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that's why I'm so confident. 1222 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 3: All right. So now we're talking about buying the dip. 1223 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, and Tanny, you just alluded to it, well, 1224 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: buying the dip. Yeah, Hey, maybe a bad year last year, 1225 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, But I got faith, but they're they're 1226 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,479 Speaker 1: shooting into the moon. 1227 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 2: Yes, we're gonna make a lot of money on this. 1228 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: This is way you make money. Yeah, this makes money. 1229 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 5: I was, I would say, and the guys there, I 1230 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 5: hate this looking at the sheet and being able to say, 1231 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 5: but it's it's there, my seam, I say, I'm. 1232 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 3: He's one of those guys. He fit just like le 1233 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 3: Ron payin. Talent is there, production is what's there. 1234 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 5: It's just didn't get the same output that you've seen 1235 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 5: quarters and years before. It wasn't bad that you knowing 1236 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 5: you didn't see Marshawn a lot of more out there. 1237 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 5: You just say I didn't get that same You know 1238 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 5: what I mean? You know I didn't get the same 1239 00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 5: dividend back. 1240 00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: You understand. 1241 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 5: Look with the words so going coming forward, Yes he's 1242 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 5: not here, but I know Marshan Anamore. I don't know 1243 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 5: him personally, but I've seen Marshan Anamore every year play 1244 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 5: for the New Orleans Saints and this is the same 1245 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 5: thing he did over there. 1246 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 3: He was home getting it getting it done. 1247 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 5: So I predict a guy and Marshawn to be ready 1248 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 5: when it comes to be ready. 1249 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 3: And he understand what they're building around. He he loved 1250 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 3: what he. 1251 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 5: Saw when he came here last year, so I know 1252 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 5: he's gonna be ready. So I would buy the differ 1253 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 5: on him, knowing that he's a guy that has the potential, 1254 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 5: Like we said. 1255 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 2: Earlier to the moon Baby, especially if healthy. 1256 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 4: That's the key, this key, Just say healthy. Do y'all 1257 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 4: remember the cornerback to Lee. 1258 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 2: Lee. 1259 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 4: You know he was known for like taking people change, 1260 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 4: but his next dude and I'm bud to deal with 1261 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 4: snatch changed to defao Sam. 1262 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 3: All right, I'm going with Debo. 1263 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 4: It's a good one because I know athletes, and the 1264 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 4: first thing don't ever do to athlete is tell him 1265 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 4: they either lost the step, tell us we can't do it. 1266 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 4: That's when we go all out of our way to 1267 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 4: prove you you was wrong that when a team breaks 1268 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,280 Speaker 4: up with us, we don't care if it was admitable, 1269 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 4: if we both agreed this need to happen, you wouldn't 1270 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 4: a believer anymore. So now I have to go out 1271 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 4: here and showed the world who I am and what 1272 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 4: I can do. Oh and by the way, you gave 1273 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 4: me a better office line than I hate. You gave 1274 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 4: me a better quarterback than I have. I gotta actually 1275 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 4: a number one. 1276 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 3: A over here. 1277 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 4: They're gonna keep the coverage away from me. This situation 1278 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 4: is better for me. 1279 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: And you know what's funny is Tanna and I talked 1280 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: about Kyle Shanahan all the time, like watching how he 1281 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: was used in that offense. 1282 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be. 1283 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: More productive in this offense, yes, most because it's a 1284 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna find ways to get him the ball early 1285 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: and often, yep, quick quick gains, and he's. 1286 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 2: Gonna be explosive and do it he does best. Yeah. 1287 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 1288 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: I just think, like you said, better situation, better quarterback, 1289 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: better old line, And I think this. 1290 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 2: I love that offense in San Francisco. Yeah, I just 1291 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,959 Speaker 2: think this offense. 1292 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 3: This is our office is a tad bit more article. 1293 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm really excited for that. 1294 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: So for me, this is a weird one because I 1295 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: kind of feel like it's ascending a little bit, But 1296 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,800 Speaker 1: it's javon kinlaw for me. 1297 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 3: Nice. 1298 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: And I just think the reason I'm so confident is 1299 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: I saw him warm up the other day and if 1300 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: you've seen this man in person, the move, you cannot 1301 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: not be excited about he is a giant human being. 1302 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: But the other thing I look at is Dan Quinn, 1303 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: Joe Wood, Junior Tap and Ryan Kerrigan and they just 1304 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: seem to have the Midas touch when it comes to 1305 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: getting the. 1306 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 3: Most out of no matter who they are. 1307 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: And when I watch the highlights of kin Law, I 1308 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: watched the explosiveness, the burst, the ability to run stuff down, 1309 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: the power. I'm like, if they can get this dudeist 1310 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: going in the right direction, man, I'm gonna be rich 1311 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: off this investment, right Like, That's the way I look 1312 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: at it. And I'm relying on the coaching big time here, 1313 00:51:54,440 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: but I trust this you Yeah, Okay, all right, So 1314 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: now we got diamond hands. 1315 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: So this is one you just gotta gotta hold on. 1316 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 3: You got a hold on team. 1317 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a little bit different than by the 1318 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: depth because they haven't shown you anything yet. 1319 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're confident that stock's gonna hit. 1320 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so be patient. 1321 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 5: So you know, diamond hands remind me of just in 1322 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 5: that era when we were talking about game stock and 1323 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 5: a AMC. You know what I mean, It matter how 1324 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 5: how the business was, check it. I'm holding on because 1325 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 5: something going on here is unusual. And I'm gonna say 1326 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 5: that with my got Coleman. I like the fact that 1327 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 5: we went out and got we got this guy. Like 1328 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 5: that we got this guy in the draft, got this 1329 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 5: guy in draft last year and first year year one, 1330 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 5: he went out there and played to us out of 1331 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 5: position a little bit. 1332 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go and be a left tackle. Now. 1333 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 5: Could you imagine a rookie with a task of having 1334 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 5: the blind side of one of the best quarterbacks in franchise, 1335 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 5: not even franchise history, NFL history, rookie, you know, as 1336 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 5: a rookie, and to have to sit out there and 1337 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 5: say I got his blind side. I have to make 1338 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 5: sure that I'm going out there against the Philadelphia Eagles 1339 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 5: twice and protecting Jaden and use blind side. 1340 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 3: And now we say, know. 1341 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 5: What, bro, how bad we got you. We're gonna move 1342 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 5: you in your right spot, put you inside and be 1343 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 5: able to use that athleticism that you have at that 1344 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 5: position to play guard. Man, this is a guy you 1345 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 5: hold if he's gonna be playing guard, because broke. 1346 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 3: Guy, I can play pro bo guard. 1347 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 5: Bro this is something you hold on to because I 1348 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,760 Speaker 5: see this guy's limit for him at that position. 1349 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 2: That might be my favorite one. 1350 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 3: He said, I'm about to one up here. You know, 1351 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 3: you can't get nothing from him, child, what they do 1352 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 3: to you. I'm gonna give him bunch of Newton you took. 1353 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. 1354 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Newton because to a couple of things. 1355 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 4: He limped in here when we drafted him, had to get. 1356 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 3: Sergers on his on his feet, took him some. 1357 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 4: Time to get shaped, had to break the rotation for 1358 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 4: a while. You know, it's just step step, ship, step step. 1359 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 4: I got a chance to talk to. 1360 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 3: Him earlier, all smiles. I cannot get. 1361 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 2: It was. 1362 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 4: It was all smiles, and he had this inten city 1363 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 4: to him, like I just can't wait to show them 1364 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 4: who I am. I know who we lost John Nelly, 1365 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 4: but I can I can bring a lot of the 1366 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 4: same thing to the table. 1367 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go give me a nude and I'm 1368 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 3: a whole own baby. 1369 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,479 Speaker 2: I'm a little shook right like that, because that was mine. 1370 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: I was fully invested, no diversity in my portfolio, was 1371 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 1: going three defenses. Oh man, right, So now I'm a 1372 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: little bit I don't even know who to go, and 1373 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go McGee. So I like that he was 1374 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: hurt last year, they wanted to get him more. Man, 1375 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: you see him, you see him run around in practice. 1376 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: You see the physicality plays with specimen, and I just 1377 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 1: want to see him healthy and unleash and ready to go. 1378 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: And I think if they can find a way for 1379 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: him to be on the field, uh in whatever package, 1380 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: it looks like. You know, I think the path ridgers 1381 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: On is a little bit better because I saw it. Yeah, 1382 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 1: last year with McGee, it's a little bit of a 1383 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: hail Mary. But I think because of how he handled 1384 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: the preseason last year before the injury, it's like he's 1385 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 1: ready to go, you know, And that's something that I'm 1386 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: really excited to do it. So, I mean, guys, I 1387 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 1: think we gave tremendous investment advice, but I think eight 1388 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 1: to the nine gave the best investment. So for investment advice, 1389 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: call one eight to the nine to the move. That's 1390 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 1: our guy right there, Man, I appreciate I call him 1391 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:13,760 Speaker 1: John Stop. 1392 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, all. 1393 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: Right, Well that's gonna do it for today's show. Tell 1394 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: you like and subscribe wherever. Get your podcast if you 1395 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: want to see us. Barco right there, Oh yeah, yeah, 1396 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 1: we can't forget Barco Talk about that barcode. 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