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Speaker 1: back to Coast to Coast Richard saraht sitting in for

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Speaker 1: George Norre coming to you live from Coast Toronto, Canada

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Speaker 1: affiliate in Depth radio News Talk ten ten Lieutenant Colonel

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Speaker 1: Robert McGinnis Days with Us. The book is a lines

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Speaker 1: of evil Russia, China, the United States and a new

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Speaker 1: Cold War. Has the mystery of the end times finally arrived?

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Speaker 1: There have been obviously some ultracations with the Russians, particularly

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Speaker 1: um Uh. Well, I wouldn't call them Russian regular troops.

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Speaker 1: These are more like mercenaries in Syria. The United States

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Speaker 1: has certainly encountered or had heated battles with them. There

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Speaker 1: have been some near collisions in the South China Sea

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Speaker 1: with Chinese vessels. How do you see this or what

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Speaker 1: is the danger of this breaking out into all out

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Speaker 1: war and perhaps, as you point out, morphing into the

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Speaker 1: unfathomable uh the end an end time scenario. Well, certainly

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Speaker 1: the confrontations are on the uptick Richard, And we had

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Speaker 1: one here recently with the USSUH decatur a destroyer UH

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Speaker 1: in the grave and reefs in the South China Sea. Um,

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Speaker 1: the Chinese worship came only a few meters away from it.

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Speaker 1: And just on the last day we've had a couple

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Speaker 1: of B fifty two's that have flew over um, you know,

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Speaker 1: the contested area in the South China. See, people need

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Speaker 1: to understand that these islets acres that the Chinese have

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Speaker 1: militarized with cruise missiles and air defense weapons, and you

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Speaker 1: created not only harbords for their warships, but also for

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Speaker 1: their jet fighters and their bombers that they practice from that.

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Speaker 1: These are claimed by the Vietnamese, the Taiwanese as well

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Speaker 1: as the Filipinos. And there are six hundred sixty miles

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Speaker 1: or in that range south of China, so this is

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Speaker 1: not just you know, next door to them, it's really

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Speaker 1: in the middle of that sea. But these confrontations are

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Speaker 1: on the increase. We've had a lot in the South China,

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Speaker 1: see East China. See the Russians are being very provocative

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Speaker 1: at sea and in the areas I've indicated, and of

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Speaker 1: course they have their neighbors to the west terrified, to

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Speaker 1: the point that the uh Polish Prime Minister has called

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Speaker 1: for giving the US two billion dollars to forward station

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Speaker 1: armored brigades so that they can be prepared in case

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Speaker 1: the Russians do what they did in Ukraine or Crimea

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Speaker 1: or the Republic of Georgia, which is a concern. And

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Speaker 1: we killed a couple of hundred and it's interesting. We

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Speaker 1: that's the nature of mercenaries, but they were there to

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Speaker 1: represent the Assad regime UH, and of course, UH the

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Speaker 1: Russians wiped their hands of that, even though we know

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Speaker 1: Obviously that looms large in any end time scenario. Is

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Speaker 1: that the most likely flash point as far as you're

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Speaker 1: would argue that you know, if you got into say

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Speaker 1: term agenda. You mentioned her to Wan, and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you about Turkey. Did they belong in NATO

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Speaker 1: even at this point? You know, that's a fair question.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. My concern would be one, you know,

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Speaker 1: return to the grandeur of the Ottoman Empire. Uh So NATO. No,

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Speaker 1: you know, we have that alliance to keep in mind.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt that the Russians and the Chinese

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Speaker 1: all painting the picture where you can see a divided

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Speaker 1: He can sanction entities and individuals even if the Showgi

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Speaker 1: Of course the Iranians you know, through proxies in that

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