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Speaker 1: The moment, dear listener has come. Donald Trump is president

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Speaker 1: of the United States once again. He started by unleashing

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Speaker 1: a flurry of executive orders trying to end things that

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Speaker 2: As of today, it will henceforth be the official policy

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Speaker 1: Today, we're going to analyze Trump's actions in his first

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Speaker 1: week in office, and we're going to start here with

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Speaker 1: Trump signing an executive order instructing the federal government to

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Speaker 1: issue passports and other federal documents that reflect only two sexes.

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Speaker 3: My friends, comunity, my family are angry and scared that.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Trujillo, a seventeen year old trans student from Arizona.

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Speaker 3: As I get older, I'm going to have to apply

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Speaker 3: to schools, get a house, get a job, and a

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Speaker 3: lot of those things require documents. If those documents aren't correct,

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Speaker 3: it opens the door to discrimination and violence and places

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Speaker 3: that trans people shouldn't have to fear violence from. You know,

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Speaker 3: no one should have to fear being discriminated against. At

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Speaker 4: And then there's climate.

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Speaker 2: We will be a rich nation again, and it is

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Speaker 4: Help to do it.

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Speaker 1: As Californians continue to deal with the devastation of wildfires

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Speaker 1: Trump withdrew the United States from the Paris Agreement at

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Speaker 1: emergency declaration, Trump greenlit a massive expansion of the fossil

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Speaker 5: Growing up in Houston is being surrounded by pipes, trains, trucks,

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Speaker 1: Brian Barras is forty seven and he lives in Houston, Texas,

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Speaker 5: When all checks and accountability are taken away, that leads

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Speaker 1: And then there's Trump's biggest targets, immigrants.

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Speaker 2: I will declare a national emergency at our southern border.

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Speaker 2: All illegal entry will immediately be halted, and we will

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Speaker 2: begin the process of returning millions and millions of criminal

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Speaker 1: As Trump delivered his inaugural address on Monday afternoon, migrants

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Speaker 1: at the southern border received a life altering message pop

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Speaker 1: up on their phone. CBP one, the government app where

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Speaker 1: migrants could schedule appointments to apply for asylum, had canceled

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Speaker 1: all appointments, even those made months ago, with the phone

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Speaker 1: message simply saying existing appointments are no longer valid. Lament

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Speaker 1: that's the voice of Pablo. He's a thirty year old

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Speaker 1: migrant from Venezuela who, after months at the Southern border,

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Speaker 1: all others, was automatically canceled. He told us that he

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Speaker 6: Hey persona Sally Dejesu Cordia Ni.

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Speaker 1: Pablo, who's an engineer, says he and other Venezuelans left

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Speaker 1: asked for more kindness and mercy from Trump, a person

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Speaker 1: who he said speaks so much about Jesus Trump's so

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Speaker 1: called borders are. Tom Homan said to CNN that ICE

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Speaker 7: Is tamagia alanompra aros escuchamo ke ambistove las patrez migracion

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Speaker 4: This is Norman.

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Speaker 1: She's an undocumented Mexican domestic worker based in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: She's lived there for twenty seven years. She had family

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Speaker 1: so is Itzel, her sixteen year old US born daughter.

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Speaker 8: How do they see taking someone's mother away from them? Okay, Like,

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Speaker 8: how would they like it if random people they don't

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Speaker 1: Things that you leave it For undocumented people, safe spaces

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Speaker 9: The new administration says ICE can arrest people at churches, schools,

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Speaker 10: For me, sanctuary was the only place where I could

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Speaker 10: not only protected by the congregation but by God.

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Speaker 1: Under the first Trump administration, Rosa Savido, a sixty year

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Speaker 1: old Mexican immigrant, took sanctuary in a church in her

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Speaker 1: rural town in Colorado to resist a deportation order. Before that,

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Speaker 1: she had sold tamalis, and she had worked in the

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Speaker 10: I cannot even imagine how things are going to look

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Speaker 10: like from now on for all of.

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Speaker 1: Us from futuro Media and PRX, It's Latino USA. I'm

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Speaker 1: Marie no posa today Avengeful Return, how our communities are

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Speaker 1: bracing for Donald Trump's initial actions in office, and how

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Speaker 1: can we navigate the next four years. People in our

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Speaker 1: communities are grappling with what comes next for our families,

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Speaker 1: for our neighbors, for our livelihoods, our safety. So today

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Speaker 1: the Thick to bring you a roundtable discussion to break

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Speaker 1: it all down. Joining us from Princeton, New Jersey, renowned

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Speaker 1: author and professor of African American studies and yes, unketido amigo,

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Speaker 1: doctor Eddie Glaud. Even though he's battling a cold in

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Speaker 1: the flu here he is. That's how we're showing up

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Welcome back to the show, Eddie.

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Speaker 11: I'm so excited to be with you.

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Speaker 1: And from Austin, Texas is Nicole Nadia, Senior political reporter

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Speaker 1: at Fox. She covers immigration and disinformation. Nicole, welcome to

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Speaker 12: Thanks glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we're going to start with a temperature check.

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Speaker 1: This is really about how you're feeling emotionally. So what's

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Speaker 1: your emotional temperature check? We'll start with you Eddie.

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm vacillating between anger, rage, trying to figure out

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Speaker 11: but for the most part, all those emotions are feeding

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Speaker 11: for a reason, you know. I think it's appropriate given

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Speaker 11: I got a text from my son saying, I can't

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Speaker 11: and he was indicting the older generation. So just worried

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Speaker 4: Although it's not forever.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not forever, right, and we've been here in

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Speaker 1: horrible places in our country before. Nicole Quiles Duistado emotional

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Speaker 12: It's a lot. I had forgotten what the first Trump

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Speaker 12: administration was like and the way that he sort of

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Speaker 12: lived in our minds constantly, and I embracing myself for

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Speaker 12: the next four years and trying to figure out how

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Speaker 1: We are all in this together, and we are going

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Speaker 1: to figure it out here at Latino, USA, and in

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Speaker 1: the thick we are committed to not giving up. So, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: Trump said that he was going to begin a quote

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Speaker 1: golden age for the United States. He cast himself as

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Speaker 1: a rescuer of a country in turmoil. He even suggested

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Speaker 1: that divine intervention was responsible for him surviving those assassination attempts.

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Speaker 1: His speech, Eddie, was filled with the usual xenophobia as

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Speaker 1: he let out plans for a wide scale militarized assault

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Speaker 4: Eddie, how did you see this speech?

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Speaker 1: And do you think it's going to stand out, you historian,

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Speaker 1: as a moment that is going to be remarkable in

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Speaker 11: In terms of the latter question, I don't know if

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Speaker 11: second term of trump Ism. And I think his speech

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Speaker 11: I was just struck by how none of it was new.

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Speaker 11: He didn't say anything that should surprise us. He's been

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Speaker 11: This time, he has cadrea folk around him who can

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Speaker 11: So it was all familiar. But the question that we

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Speaker 1: It's important to remember right that Donald Trump is walking

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Speaker 1: in with this sense of power, especially in terms of

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Speaker 1: order to do that, he need to get a congressional

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Speaker 1: But Trump does have the power right now to order

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Speaker 1: going to be litigated in the courts for some time. Nicole,

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Speaker 1: what if any executive orders did in fact stand out

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Speaker 12: I think Trump is looking here to really start with

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Speaker 12: shock and awe. That's the words that his advisors were

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Speaker 12: he can basically undo anything that Biden passed via executive order.

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Speaker 12: One of the first ones he signed was reversing many

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Speaker 12: this means in practice, So especially on immigration, he really

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Speaker 1: And we're already seeing resistance right. So far, twenty two

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Speaker 12: I just don't know where the left goes from here

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, we got to get clear on what

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Speaker 1: And you know, what, Nicole, I am not hearing a

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Speaker 1: But we are hearing so much of the hatred. Right Nicole,

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Speaker 4: Well two years to the midterms.

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Speaker 1: That's two years to the midterms, right, Nicole, since you

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Speaker 1: It's going to be hard, it's going to be a challenge.

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Speaker 1: Well, dear listener, it is a new era and you

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