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Speaker 2: And this is our All Star Game episode releasing on

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Speaker 2: the day of the All Star Game with nineteen time

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Speaker 2: All Star Cal Ripken Junior as our guest.

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Speaker 3: What a get Dad?

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Speaker 2: Excellent get?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: You know, I know Cal Ripken Jr. Really well, and

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Speaker 1: he's a really funny guy. He's got great stories to tell,

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Speaker 1: he has a photographic memory, and if you get him

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Speaker 1: in the right mood, he will chuckle along with you,

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Speaker 1: which he did in our interview. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone else will also.

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Speaker 2: Cal's incredible. You can hear that towards the end of

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Speaker 2: the episode.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: Now we're doing this virtually our first ever full episode. Virtually, Dad,

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Speaker 2: you are actually at the All Star Game. This is

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Speaker 2: your mind my math forty third everyone since nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, since nineteen eighty one. So my first one, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: which is always the best one because it's your first one.

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Speaker 1: It was nineteen eighty two. I was the full time

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Speaker 1: beat writer covering the Rangers, who are hosting the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game this year, and it was in Montreal and

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Speaker 1: I'd never been to Montreal before, which was really cool.

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Speaker 1: So the first person I saw at the All Star

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Speaker 1: Game was Al Oliver. Jeff, you don't remember him, but

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Speaker 1: he was a great hitter, and he was on the

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Speaker 1: spring training. And he's off to this incredible start. He's

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Speaker 1: having probably the best year of any player in the

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Speaker 1: National League. So I go up to Al and say, Al,

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Speaker 1: how you doing? And he said, I've had seventy five

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Speaker 1: line drives caught the first half of the season. That's

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Speaker 1: what he's said. He didn't even say hello, that's what

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Speaker 1: he said, seventy five line drives caught. I love that

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Speaker 1: with Al Oliver.

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Speaker 2: Well, you talked about your first All Star Game. Calver

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Speaker 2: Upken Jr. Is going to talk about his first All

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Speaker 2: Star Game. Really excited for that. But then I want

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Speaker 2: to talk quickly about my favorite All Star game because

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Speaker 2: growing up I got to go to a lot with you.

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Speaker 2: But I think my favorite one was twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: in Colorado because you and I had the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: call the celebrity softball game play by play and color

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Speaker 2: together on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Well, that wasn't my favorite one, Jeff because if you

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Speaker 1: remember Andy Jacobson, our producer, and you insisted that I

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Speaker 1: dance on national television with Jojo Siwah. It was the

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Speaker 1: most humiliating experience of my entire life. And you looked

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Speaker 1: at me and you said, Dad, you gotta do this

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Speaker 1: for the show. It'll be good for the show. So

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Speaker 1: I took one for the team, and all kidding side, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: that was as good a day as I've had in

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Speaker 1: the business calling a game next to you, and I

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Speaker 1: think I remember our open was I said something like that, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: you handle all the sports stuff, okay, because I'll take

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Speaker 1: care of all the pop culture stuff, all the kit

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Speaker 1: Catsu TikTok stuff. Kit cat I don't even know the

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Speaker 1: it's called. It was terrible, all right, Jeff. Again, back

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Speaker 1: to the All Star Game for a second. My favorite

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Speaker 1: guys who get here having never been here before. I

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Speaker 1: told you the great Johnny Bench story nineteen sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: He's scared to death. He's in the clubhouse and he

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Speaker 1: and Willie Mays, the greatest player in the game, comes

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Speaker 1: next week from Coopertown for our Hall of Fame edition.

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Speaker 1: But what I love again so much are the first

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Speaker 2: The All Star Game is an incredible weekend. And you know,

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Speaker 2: so many memories from the weekend. But Dad, we're still

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Speaker 2: playing Major League Baseball. Since the last time you and

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Speaker 2: I did our show last week, what are some takeaways

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're only gonna have a few this week, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: But I did the Phillies Dodgers game last week, as

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Speaker 1: He's got that cord strength, that wiry strength, and I've

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Speaker 1: So I mean he is. He has been red hot,

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Speaker 1: He had two multi homer games in a three game span,

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Speaker 2: It's incredible, And I want to add a takeaway really

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Speaker 2: We're talking about these heavy hitting turner shortstop homers, Gunnar

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Speaker 1: Right, and cal Ripken did lead the charge. He told

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Speaker 2: Paul Skeans will start for the National League. And we've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that it's looking better. It's not Paul Skeen's good,

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Speaker 1: like it, Jeff, And I'm sorry I didn't recognize that

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Speaker 1: I've never heard anybody truly say that when we're just

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to get way ahead of myself. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, Okay, onto the courtions, Jeff. Remember we talked

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Speaker 2: You've attended quite a few All Star Games. I want

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Speaker 1: Jeff is the greatest picture I've ever seen for a

434
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Speaker 1: short period, like a five year period. Ninety nine two

435
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: thousand is the greatest two years back to back, I

436
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: believe that any pitcher has ever had. It was a

437
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: DH era, it was a steroid era. He's playing in

438
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: the American League. He's playing the American League East, and

439
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: his ERA those two years was one ninety and that

440
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: the league ra those two years was four ninety. That's

441
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: how much better he was than everyone else. So All

442
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: Star Game in ninety nine, he just blows away the

443
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: National League for two innings. And before the game and

444
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: this was the highlight. This was even better than Pedro.

445
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: They wheeled Ted Williams out to the pitchers mound to

446
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: celebrate him as the greatest hitter of all time, because

447
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: of course the game was taking place at Fenway Park,

448
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: and it was one of the great moments ever. And

449
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: after Pedro pitched, he went into the clubhouse, American League clubhouse,

450
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: and Ted Williams was in there, and Ted Williams said

451
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: to Pedro Martinez, that's some of the greatest pitching I've

452
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. That's what Ted Williams told him,

453
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: and Pedro told me later that was the highlight of

454
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Speaker 1: his career, was affirmation from Ted Williams that Pedro was

455
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: a really good pitcher, which we all know.

456
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: Of course.

457
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: The other one was nineteen eighty three. That's my second

458
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: All Star Game. Fred Linn hit a grand Slam off

459
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: of Attlee Hammerker and Jeff, does this amaze you? That's

460
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: still the only grand Slam in the history of the

461
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: All Star Game? Does that sound odd to you?

462
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 2: That does sound odd, because I feel like there's a

463
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: lot of runs that have been scored, especially in recent years,

464
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: where it kind of stopped mattering, and you know, pitchers

465
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: would come in for an inning and players would switch

466
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: in an out, and that kind of shocks me.

467
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still shocked. And maybe we'll get one this year,

468
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: who knows, right, nineteen ninety three, again, Jeff, the reason

469
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: we love the All Star Game is it's fun. It's

470
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: a celebration of the game. And in ninety three, John

471
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: Kruger to your friend Randy Johnson, purposely threw one way

472
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: over John Cruck's head just to scare the life out

473
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: of him, and John cruck just patted his heart and

474
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: he told me later it was like the fear of

475
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: God because the hardest throwing leftander, who is I had

476
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: never faced in his major league career, threw one over

477
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: his head. The place went nuts. Everybody loved it. Randy

478
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: Johnson loved it. John kruck loved it. He struck him

479
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: out on the next pitch, and Krucky just bowed to

480
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: him and walked away. These are the moments you don't remember, Jeff.

481
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: Whether you win or lose the All Star Game, necessarily

482
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: you remember moments like that. And anyone who saw Krucky

483
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: against the big unit, they will never forget that as

484
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: long as they live.

485
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: I can't believe on your list it wasn't twenty eighteen

486
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: celebrity softball game where you scored from second base on

487
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: a single to left center. You remember that, Yes, I

488
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: remember it well.

489
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: Andre Dawson, Hall of Famer single to left to score

490
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: the dinky little sports writer from second. So I love

491
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: playing that game because again I can now say that, yeah,

492
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: I scored on a hit by Andre Dawson, Hall of Famer,

493
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: and I also played multiple positions of that game. I fourth,

494
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: I think I'll play at second base, and Tim Rain's

495
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer is the first basement. So there's a

496
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: slow roller between me and Tim Rains and just reflexibly,

497
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: I ran in in front of him. I caught it

498
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: and then I flipped it to the pitcher, Josh Norman,

499
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: who was a quarterback in the NFL, and he was

500
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: covering first. So he had a four to one putout

501
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: in the celebrity softball game, and Tim Rain's like looked

502
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: at me, like, you're cutting in front of me to

503
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: make that play. What are you doing? And I just

504
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: said sorry. So last one is twenty thirteen. It was

505
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: Marianna Rivera's final All Star game and it was a

506
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: great moment in Detroit, and the American League did a

507
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: beautiful job on this. Jim Leland was the manager, so

508
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: he sends Marianna Rivera to the mound to start the

509
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: ninth inning, and no one else on the American League

510
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: team went on the field. Marianna Rivera was allowed to

511
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: take a curtain call by himself. He was the only

512
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: guy in the field, and every player in the National

513
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: League dugout, every player in the American League dugout was

514
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: on the top step cheering Marianna Rivera, and Jeff I

515
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: was the dugout reporter that night, as I have been

516
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: for the last twelve years. At the All Star Game,

517
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: Marianna Rivera came in and he shook everybody's hand and

518
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: he literally was crying because he was so moved by

519
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: the moment of what they did to allow him to

520
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: appear in the All Star Game like that. And then

521
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: Joe Nathan, who was the Twins closer, came in to

522
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: pitch the ninth inning and got the save, and then

523
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: the baseball that Joe Nathan had the final out of

524
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: that he gave to Marianna Rivera and said, you deserve this,

525
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: and it was like one of the great moments ever.

526
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: This is what happens when people get together and we

527
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: say goodbye to a. You know, Mariano Rivera, the greatest

528
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: closer ever, the only unanimous choice in the Hall of

529
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: Fame voting.

530
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: Do you have any great col stories you want to

531
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: tell before we throw it back to him?

532
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: Uh, well, there are a million of them, but I

533
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: think the one that best personifies him, at least for me.

534
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: Try to follow this, Jeff. The Old Metrodome in Minneapolis.

535
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: They in order to get from the field to the clubhouse,

536
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: you have to go up steps. It's like twelve steps,

537
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: big landing, twelve steps, big landing, twelve more steps. And Ripkin,

538
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: the most competitive guy in the world, not just in

539
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: baseball but in any competitive situation, figures out devises a

540
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: game to see which oriole can run off the field

541
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: after infield before a major league game and get to

542
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: the top in the fewest number of strides. Okay, so

543
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Ripkin of course is the record holder because it's his

544
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: game and he has to win. He gets to the

545
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: top in six strides, which, like Bob Beeman for the

546
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: sixty eight Olympics, couldn't have got to the top in

547
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: six strides, but Ripkin did so. One day after doing this,

548
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: you know this competition for years. Renee Gonzalez, a teammate,

549
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: gets to the top in six strides. He ties cal Ripkin,

550
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: and Ripkin finds out about it. He goes back down

551
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: on the field and does it again. And this time

552
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: he made it to the top in five strides. So

553
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: the world was good again. Jeff because the ridiculously stupid

554
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: game that he invented, he is the champion of it.

555
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: If we're gonna if we're gonna compete, we're gonna do

556
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: it right and we're gonna win. That's who cal Ripkin is.

557
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: And does it get any better than cal Ripkin Junior,

558
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: Our guest for this episode of Is This a Great Game?

559
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: Or What?

560
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: Our All Star Game Special joins the show. Next, we're

561
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: joined by Hall Safe Shortshop. Cal Ripkin, nineteen time All

562
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: Star Junior.

563
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Say hi to Jeff Kirchin for us.

564
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: Hi, Jeff, do you know you count?

565
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask right out of the gate, because

566
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: not only did my dad cover this game for years

567
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: and covered your team for years, but you guys also

568
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: played basketball together quite a bit. Do you recall by

569
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: chance my dad's very last time playing in your gym?

570
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 5: Well, it had to be the Thursday night game that

571
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: was the good game, and he wanted to come and

572
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 5: write about it, and so and I said, well, you

573
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 5: can't come just write about it, you got to play.

574
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 5: And so I put him on a team and all

575
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: good basketball players, and we played nine games and his

576
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 5: team lost all nine games.

577
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: And so the matchups were I mean, they.

578
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: Were guys that played in Europe, the guys who played

579
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: big time college basketball, and so I mean I end

580
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: up had a mismatch most of the time because I

581
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: had guard six to ten guys and I'm only six four,

582
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 5: And so the matchups that went down to Tim, they

583
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: had guys that were as fast as quick as Tim,

584
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 5: but twice his size.

585
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: The guy I guarded that day had just graduated from

586
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: Kentucky State, had scored like two thousand points. He was

587
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: a foot taller than me. I was forty five years old.

588
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: I had zero chance. But Rip, you remember I got

589
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: caught on a switch the first time down and I

590
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: was guarding le Bradford Smith.

591
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: Who had played in the NBA like three years earlier.

592
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: So to say I didn't belong in that game, it's

593
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: the most accurate thing.

594
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: Rip.

595
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: How do you remember that my team went oh to nine.

596
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 5: Well, because the guys were first looking at me like

597
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 5: they weren't sure about you, and they have said you

598
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 5: should we take it easy on them, should we uh

599
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 5: play play your games?

600
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: And uh so we were all out to play.

601
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 5: And you remember the game was twenty five, so straight

602
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 5: twenty five threes count three, twos count two, so it

603
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 5: could be a possession game. But a lot of times

604
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: you get caught in matchups or switches, and normally when

605
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: the switch was favorable. And I remember this, somebody yelled out,

606
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 5: mouse in the house. Tim was down on the block

607
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 5: and the somebody else had liked le Bradford had a

608
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 5: matchup on him.

609
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: So that was that was That was so anyway, Mouse

610
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: in the house.

611
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: Right I was looking up Jim, Jim when you told

612
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 5: me that we were going to talk up a little

613
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: bit about basketball. Every time I go to UH to

614
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: UH one of these shows, somebody shows me a picture

615
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 5: of a long time ago, and there was a couple

616
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 5: of basketball pictures.

617
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: Can you can you see that?

618
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: What is it?

619
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: It's me dunking?

620
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: Of course it's you dunking. You don't have any You

621
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: don't how any people are asked.

622
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, could Cal ripken duncan?

623
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: I said, what are you crazy? Six', four he's a great.

624
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: Athlete he could dunk it. EASILY i.

625
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 5: HAD i had a couple of one picture in the

626
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 5: game when in traffic with.

627
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: A dunk two handed over. Somebody that was pretty. Good but,

628
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: ANYWAY i can't find that.

629
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: ONE i think it's safe to, Say, cal you never

630
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: saw my dad do.

631
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: That at Your jim right, Now we had a trampoline

632
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 5: set up, too and he jumped off the trampoline and.

633
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: Dunked that is a that is a great. Picture my

634
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: shorts were really.

635
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: Hot things have changed.

636
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: There, too no. Doubt, well your your son cal and

637
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: obviously this is a father son podcast and to be

638
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: able to do this with my dad is it's truly

639
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: a dream come. True it's the coolest. Thing your son

640
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: minor league baseball, player heck of an, athlete really good basketball.

641
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: Player do you remember the time that he bested you

642
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: on the court for the very first time that you, said, uh,

643
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh i'm raising an athlete and this kid's got.

644
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 5: Me, WELL i can't say that he bested me on the,

645
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: court but he did break my nose one. Time we

646
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 5: were just playing around and you, know and he had

647
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 5: this move that he faked to the left and then

648
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 5: went to it to his. Right and and he's his

649
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 5: nickname is. Lanky he had, long like my arm span

650
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: is exactly the same as my. HEIGHT i think he's

651
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 5: a plus FOUR i, think so he's got he's got

652
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 5: a little longer.

653
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: Arm so he's lanky. Long and he made this move

654
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 4: AND i knew he was going to go that.

655
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 5: Way SO i just moved over there quicker and anticipated,

656
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: it and then he turned to rotate his elbow and

657
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 5: his elbow hit me right across the nose and set

658
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 5: my nose on the other side of my face and

659
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: blood flying. Out so he takes pride in, That but we.

660
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 5: Did he did play in our, game you, know the

661
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 5: same game that you played, in and we put him

662
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 5: in there against all the players it was. About he

663
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 5: WAS i think fifteen or sixteen at the, time and

664
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 5: he made eight threes in the.

665
00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: Game he could really shoot the three, right he.

666
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 4: Had long distance on his, shots and sometimes he was

667
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 4: a bit streaky, sometimes you, know but shooters are like.

668
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: That you just keep.

669
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: Shooting but he made eight threes in the game that,

670
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 5: night and so he ended up winning winning the game for,

671
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 5: us and in one of those.

672
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: Games but he's a really good.

673
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 5: Player AND i think that's the closest WHEN i was

674
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 5: WHEN i was playing a lot when he was. SIXTEEN

675
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 5: i think that's when we were. PLAYING i don't know

676
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 5: if he could have beat me in one on. One

677
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 5: maybe we never really played, that BUT i never took it.

678
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: Easy, now when he broke your nose, ripped did you

679
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: just like put it back in place with your.

680
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: Finger and oh my, god not everyone could just do,

681
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: that you.

682
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 5: Know, WELL i had my nose BROKEN i think seven,

683
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 5: TIMES i think five times playing playing, basketball you, know

684
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 5: guarding six ten guys at your elbow heights and or

685
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 5: leaning in trying to rake a small guard or something

686
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 5: coming through the through the, lane and you put your

687
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 5: head in there and get. HIT i did it at

688
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 5: a team picture at The All Star game In, philadelphia

689
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 5: if you remember, that.

690
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: Right ninety Six Roberto, hernandez, right explain what happened.

691
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: There he fell.

692
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 5: Off it was we were coming down off the platforms

693
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 5: for the team picture and one of the platforms teetered

694
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: like like, it and he thought he was going to,

695
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 5: fall so he threw his hand back to catch his,

696
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 5: balance AND i happened to be standing right behind.

697
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: Him, oh he backfists me in the nose on that.

698
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 5: Side now that one didn't go back, in so easy

699
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 5: train to push that one back. In and then about

700
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 5: a week LATER i had to go Into hopkins and

701
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 5: get it readjusted mid.

702
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: Season mind, you, right here's a guy who did miss

703
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: a game for fifteen, years and he broke his nose

704
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: as a team picture at The All Star.

705
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 4: Game it was really. WEIRD i had to do a

706
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: team a team press.

707
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 5: CONFERENCE i had to do a press conference after the

708
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: team picture because of the accident of the team. PICTURE

709
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: i played the. GAME i remember hitting the double the

710
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 5: right center, field SO i did pretty. Well AND i

711
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: remember the feeling that your face was kind of out

712
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 5: of whack for a. While and in those, days The

713
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 5: tuesday he came back On, wednesday you played On. Thursday

714
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: SO i think it Was sunday THAT i went Into

715
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 5: hopkins and, said things don't really still feel, right and

716
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 5: then they adjusted it after a game and popped it back.

717
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 4: In, wow then it was, fine, Right.

718
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: Junior back To Ryan, ripkin he is now a member

719
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: of the, media and he is really good at. It

720
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: what is it like for You hall Of fame father

721
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: to be on his podcast and work next to your,

722
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: son Like i'm working next to my.

723
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: Son, WELL i, mean it's always been good between him AND.

724
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 5: I we always talked, baseball and he picked up a

725
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 5: lot by being around, baseball and then you, know playing

726
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 5: in all those years in the minor, leagues so it's

727
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 5: easy and. Fun but the thing With, RYAN i always

728
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 5: thought he has this extrovert. Personality as you, Know i'm more.

729
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 5: Introverted baseball's kind of brought me out a little bit more.

730
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: In that.

731
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: Regard But billy was Not. Billy ryan was always the

732
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 5: life of the. Party Like bill right he.

733
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 4: Is he was.

734
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 5: Outgoing he receives energy from. People he likes to, be you,

735
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 5: know out. There And ryan always talked to his teachers

736
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 5: as if you, know they were easy. Friends you, know

737
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: he was always really comfortable talking to, anybody and so

738
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 5: it seemed to be natural when he had an interest

739
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 5: to do, this and and the and the the stuff

740
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 5: that isn't always talked, about you, know some of the

741
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 5: mental side of the, game or some of the pressures

742
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 5: or the challenges that people go, through some of the

743
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 5: reasons that people make it and they don't make.

744
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 4: It some some have all the talent in the, world

745
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: they don't make.

746
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 5: It some don't quite have enough talent and they push

747
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 5: it all the way through to the edge and just

748
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 5: barely make. It he was always interested in those kind of.

749
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 5: Stories and then he likes talking about his experiences with

750
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 5: the different oriole guys that they're there now and he's

751
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 5: good at. It so you, KNOW i think he's going

752
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 5: to do really. Well and he's motivated like crazy and

753
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 5: uh and uh and that's always a good thing that

754
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 5: when you're trying to figure out ways to do things?

755
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: Better how do you how do you make this? Better

756
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 5: who CAN i talk? To what subjects CAN i talk?

757
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: About he's he's into it all the. Time uh and

758
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 5: and that's a good.

759
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: Sign, Right speaking of The orioles, rip we'll go into

760
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: the big. Leagues, Now Gunner, henderson what what do you

761
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: see when you watch him? Play?

762
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: GOD i mean you've stood next To gunner.

763
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: Right he's got the he's, huge and he's got the

764
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: biggest hands of any SHORTSTOP i Think i've ever.

765
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 5: Seen So David rubinstein asked me in THE u in

766
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 5: the owner's box one, Day he, goes how does he

767
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 5: hit so many home?

768
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 4: Runs he's not that.

769
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: BIG i, go we did that commercial together down on

770
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 5: the field and you stood right next to. Him you

771
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 5: don't remember how big he? Is and he shook and, said,

772
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 5: NO i. DON'T i go that dude is. Big he's,

773
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 5: thick he's, Strong BUT i tell you, what he's super.

774
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 5: Athletics so he plays the position a little bit like

775
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 5: a smaller.

776
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: Guy so if you're thinking.

777
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 5: About two, Shortstops me And Ozzie. SMITH i think we

778
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: might be the only two shortstops that had nine hundred

779
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 5: chances in a, year, Right AND i Think ozzie did it.

780
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: TWICE i did it. Once and if you look at

781
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: we're two different. Players you.

782
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: Know ozzie is, acrobatic can run, around make make the

783
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 5: throws on the, run can catch. It he's flashy AND

784
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 5: i have to be more, angle you, know play in

785
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 5: the right. Position and maybe my style was making harder

786
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 5: plays look a little. Easier but in the end we

787
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 5: both had. Success WHEN i look At Gunner, GUNNER i

788
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: can See ozzie And gunner, sometimes you, know when he

789
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: rounds the, ball throws the ball in the, run and

790
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 5: he's a big. Dude and to, Me Cory seger is

791
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 5: a little bit like. Me when he would go at

792
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: an angle in the, hole we take the right. Angle

793
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 5: he would, backhanded he would use the strength of his.

794
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 5: Arm gunner's got the same, cannon so he can throw

795
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 5: a guy, out a fast runner from the two steps

796
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: in the grass in the. Hole but he also could

797
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 5: run around a ball that the third baseman can't quite

798
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 5: get and throw a fast runner out. There so it

799
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 5: amazes me how he's incorporated a running style and an

800
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 5: angle style and uses all.

801
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: The tools that he.

802
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 5: Has, SO i, mean he's fun fun to, watch and

803
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 5: you could tell he's the thinking shortstop, too because he's

804
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: still a little relatively inexperienced from facing all the situations that.

805
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 5: Happened but once he faces the situation that you, know

806
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 5: maybe didn't turn a double, play like he didn't turn

807
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 5: a double play the other night when it was a

808
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 5: ground ball to the third baseman and he tried to

809
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 5: add a little bit on but his angle coming across the,

810
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 5: bag you, know he just pulled it to the left

811
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 5: and didn't get the double. Play and you can see

812
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 5: him sort of shaking his head and thinking about it

813
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: and going over the play in his. Head and that's

814
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 5: WHAT i like the most is you learn from that

815
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 5: experience and next time he's almost, thinking next, Time i'll do,

816
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: This i'll get that play, right.

817
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: Right, So jeff Cal junior is one of the biggest

818
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: shortstops ever and he a bunch of shortstop big. Shortstops JETER.

819
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: A Rod Chipper jones followed his lead, rip don't be

820
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: humble about. This tell us about the time you played

821
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: basketball Against Dave, parker the Enormous Dave parker tell us

822
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: the story because if you, DON'T i.

823
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: Will. Yeah, so.

824
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: Like, ALWAYS i think we were around. It it was A

825
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 5: pepsi softball game and we were down either In california Or.

826
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 5: FLORIDA i can't remember the exact because we did it

827
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 5: a couple of, times but we had there was a rain,

828
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 5: out and there was a, time and there was a

829
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 5: civic center or an indoor basketball place next to where we,

830
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 5: were and so all of us kind of looked at

831
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 5: each other and, said let's go over there and. Play

832
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 5: and it was really, interesting is because it's dangerous that

833
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 5: you could bow and knee.

834
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: Out there's been.

835
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 5: Players that blew a knee out and ankle out and

836
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 5: affected their career or that missed time doing. That so

837
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 5: we started, playing AND i started matching up with MATCH i,

838
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 5: Mean Dave parker was the GUY i had to.

839
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: Guard and he was a Hal he's a hulk of.

840
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 5: A, man, big but he also was fast and he could,

841
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 5: run but he was, strong and he was really, strong

842
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 5: and so he was trying to post me up or whatever,

843
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 5: else AND i was trying to stop him from posting me.

844
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 5: Up and So i'd push him around a little, bit

845
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 5: and after the game was, over he came. Over he, Goes,

846
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 5: damn he. Goes i'd never been pushed around by a

847
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 5: shortstop in my, life BUT i GUESS i did alright against.

848
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: Him Eric davis was in that, game, too ugh and

849
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: fantastic basketball. Player so there was a lot of really

850
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 5: good basketball players that were baseball.

851
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Players all, right all, rip let's move on to The

852
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: All Star. Game your First All Star game was nineteen eighty.

853
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: Three you were twenty three years. OLD i Mean Carly

854
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: stremsky And Rod carew And Mike, schmidt those guys were

855
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: in that. Game what was it like for you to

856
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: be a first Time All star and walk into that? Clubhouse.

857
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 4: YEAH i Think Johnny bench was.

858
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 3: There, Too, yes absolutely about.

859
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 5: It and the record of The National league was dominant

860
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 5: over The American league before That All Star, game and

861
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 5: it seemed like and not because of, me BUT i

862
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 5: think the league came. Around we blew out The National.

863
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 5: League Fred land hit a home run Off Attlee hammack

864
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 5: Or Grand, slam and we ended up. Winning SO i

865
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 5: came in for robbing you out in the fifth in

866
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: or sixth inning of that.

867
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 4: Game and so it was no real.

868
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: Pressure the game was pretty much at, hand but the

869
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 5: excitement level was really really. HIGH i, remember you, know

870
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: getting super ready for every. Pitch you wanted to make

871
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 5: sure you were ready for all all. Things AND i

872
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 5: was running and jumping down and the intensity was. UP

873
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 5: i Remember Manny trio looked over at, me you, know

874
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 5: from the, right and he just kind of shook his.

875
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 5: Head it's just another game. Again your excitement levels that.

876
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 5: High now that that's what happened in the. Game when

877
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 5: you walk into the clubhouse for the first. Time there

878
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 5: were guys in the clubhouse that you, watched you know

879
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 5: in high, school and.

880
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: Uh and and and there were the leaders in the.

881
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 5: CLUBHOUSE i Think Jim rice was was was in the middle,

882
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 5: There Cecil. Cooper they were battling for the home run

883
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 5: lead at that, TIME i, think and it was just

884
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 5: cool being in that room and listening to him and

885
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 5: being it was hard to put yourself in that, group you,

886
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 5: know because you would watch, them but being. TEAMMATES i

887
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 5: still think that's to this, day that's the most special

888
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 5: part about The All Star.

889
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: Game it's it's not what happens on the.

890
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 5: Field you, know you can have success and you can do,

891
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 5: that and you can feel good about, that but you

892
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to be a teammates with the game's best,

893
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 5: players you, know for those three. Days AND i always

894
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 5: THOUGHT i would search Out, Mannically i'd search out some

895
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 5: other guys and talk baseball with them and learn about.

896
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 5: It and Sometimes i'd search out PITCHERS i couldn't, hit

897
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 5: just to find out what they were.

898
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: Like and that might give me an.

899
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 5: Edge but looking back on, it you heard players that,

900
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 5: say you, Know i'm really tired seasons. Long you, KNOW

901
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: i could use the three days off instead of going

902
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 5: The All Star. Game but if they only knew how

903
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 5: cool it is to walk in that locker room and

904
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 5: be teammates with the games best, players they would no

905
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 5: matter how they, felt they wouldn't miss.

906
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 4: It that's HOW i looked at.

907
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: It let's fast forward to your Last All star, game

908
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: WHERE i know you're not going to want to hear,

909
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: this but everybody was probably, SAYING i got to be

910
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: on a team With Cal Ripken. Jr how cool is?

911
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: That so you gave players that, Opportunity BUT i was

912
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: at That All star. Game my dad. Traveled we went

913
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: to pretty much Every All star game in the late,

914
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: nineties early two, thousands AND i remember being a kid

915
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: eight years old AND i See Alex rodriguez And Calverpken

916
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: junior having some sort of it was like almost like a,

917
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: dance a, tussle and what is going on in the?

918
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: FIELD i ask my, Mom i'm not sure you See

919
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 2: Joe tory making a sign when he said no, cow

920
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: we want you at. Shortstop can you take us to

921
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: that moment for you what you were feeling because you

922
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: resisted it.

923
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: First, Yeah SO i don't like to be.

924
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 5: Surprised AND i cried myself one kind of knowing my

925
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 5: surroundings a little, bit AND i felt like the dumbest

926
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 5: person in the world because it seemed like everybody knew about

927
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 5: this thing AND i didn't know about. It and there

928
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 5: was somebody asked me the question earlier in the, day,

929
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 5: like you, know what do you think about going back

930
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 5: and playing shortstop for an inning or something like, That

931
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 5: AND i, said that's the dumbest Idea i've. HEARD i

932
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 5: just dismissed. THAT i, said that's, ridiculous that's not going to.

933
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: Happen AND i didn't realize that that had been talked.

934
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: About BUT i didn't find. Out SO i took the

935
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 5: field and Then alex comes. Over i'm in third base

936
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: And alex comes over and, says you, know why don't

937
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 5: you go play shortstop for an? Inning AND i wanted

938
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: to tell him, something you, know like where you can,

939
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: go BUT i realized THAT i had a mic on

940
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 5: and he Was, mike and so then he had to

941
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 5: choose your words kind of. Carefully BUT i didn't like.

942
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 5: IT i, went, No i'm not doing. That and then

943
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 5: the thing that got me was he, said look At

944
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 5: Joe tory and he pointed into the doug out At Joe,

945
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 5: torre And Joe tory is.

946
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 4: Saying, goad go over and play an inning.

947
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 5: There and Then i'm looking at, him, going, man everybody

948
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 5: knows but, Me and THEN i felt that. Obligated SO

949
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 5: i started to walk over And clemens is on the

950
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 5: mound and SO i yelled Out. ROGER i, said, okay

951
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 5: it looks like you got to strike out the side.

952
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 5: Now AND i went back to. Position but the real

953
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 5: anxiety THAT i had WAS i HAD i had rawlings

954
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 5: make me a little bit bigger glove WHEN i moved

955
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 5: a third because when the ball comes so, quickly you

956
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 5: can't get in front of the balls and all that

957
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 5: kind of, stuff and it's not so critical for transferring

958
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 5: in double. Plays SO i thought a bigger glove would

959
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 5: give me more of a chance to catch something as

960
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 5: opposed to knock it, down you, know when it's hit

961
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 5: at you hard and you just have a reaction to

962
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 5: move your. Glove so maybe it felt like a goalie's

963
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 5: glove in. Hockey and so when it came into the,

964
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 5: PACKAGE i Remember Jeff conine looked at it and he,

965
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 5: said let me see that, glove and he put it,

966
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 5: on and he, said this glove is.

967
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 4: Humongous and the nickname for the glove Was.

968
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 5: Humongous So i'm, thinking When i'm walking this, Shortstop i'm

969
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 5: going And i'm trying To i'm going to go play

970
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 5: short stop with.

971
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 4: Humongous and it just.

972
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 5: Felt like it was the wrong tool for the wrong,

973
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 5: time and so your anxiety and THEN i started to, think,

974
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 5: WELL i haven't played over here for a. While and

975
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 5: THEN i, think, well MAYBE i won't get a ball

976
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 5: in the inning and everything will be. Cool and the first,

977
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 5: hitter you, know made it, out and and then by

978
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: the second, HITTER i started to get my feeling. AGAIN

979
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 5: i started to, Think, okay the pitches outside probably gonna

980
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 5: hit the ball up the.

981
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: Middle let me anticipate.

982
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 5: This and by the third, hitter which was bare, bonds you,

983
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 5: KNOW i kept, thinking, Okay i'm going to take a

984
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 5: hit away From, barry you, Know i'm started to move

985
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 5: up the AND i Saw clemens was throwing him a,

986
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 5: fortball like a two zero fourkball or change, up And i'm,

987
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: going there's no way in the World barry's gonna hit this.

988
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 5: Anywhere but on that side he rolls, over it hits

989
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 5: the second. BASE i had a pretty good jump on.

990
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 5: It didn't get a play on, it BUT i wanted.

991
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 5: TO i wanted to, play you, know in that in that,

992
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: inning and SO i ran off the field kind of

993
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 5: satisfied that it turned out, okay BUT i really wanted

994
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: TO i think a chance To ACTUALLY i started to

995
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 5: feel like a shortstop. Again so it was a cool.

996
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 5: Moment and the word was that it Was alex's idea

997
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 5: two weeks. Earlier AND i don't even know WHETHER i

998
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 5: was voted in two weeks earlier or, not because got

999
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 5: off to a slow.

1000
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: START i. WAS i was out for a while and

1001
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 4: started to.

1002
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 5: Get hot towards the towards The All Star game and

1003
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 5: there was a last push for the votes that got me.

1004
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 5: In but Evidently alex Called joe instead of you, know

1005
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: what do you think about? This And joe thought it

1006
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 5: was a good. Idea so there was a plan that

1007
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 5: was working and it was all you know to bring

1008
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 5: you tribute To and What derek And alex used to

1009
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 5: say was my success at the position as a big

1010
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 5: guy gave them the opportunity to stay.

1011
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: There AND i might have believed that to a little.

1012
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 5: Bit it might have changed the mindset ever so, slightly

1013
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 5: but those guys would have paid their own. Way but

1014
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 5: it Was it felt pretty good to play a, role

1015
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 5: almost like tim from a basketball, perspective When Magic johnson.

1016
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: Was the point guard right six' nine and you.

1017
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 5: Look at he kind of changed the face of that

1018
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 5: because he could, throw over he could pass into.

1019
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: The post he was a.

1020
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 5: Great passer you could see the floor, really well and

1021
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 5: so people started, to, consider well maybe somebody that's a little.

1022
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: Bit bigger can play that. Position TOO so i felt

1023
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: pretty good, about that.

1024
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: Right and then rip in that two thousand and one

1025
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: gave you had a home run and your first at

1026
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: bad on the.

1027
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: First pitch how do you? Explain, THAT.

1028
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 5: Well i was hitting eighth in the order, that day

1029
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: so in, THE lineup i cracked. The LINEUP but I

1030
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: And randy johnson was pitching the first, TWO innings, I

1031
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 5: think AND so i remember when it was the game

1032
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 5: time is at five, point forty which is the worse

1033
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 5: time to see from shadows On the. West COAST so

1034
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 5: I Remember, San Francisco, San. Diego oakland they were all

1035
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 5: difficult times to for a hit or to see early in.

1036
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 5: The ballgame and when you look Out, of seattle that

1037
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 5: sun was. Just horrible you couldn't you. Couldn't SEE so i.

1038
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 5: KEPT thinking i was on the on deck Circle And

1039
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 5: edgar martinez was Up Against, randy johnson and the count

1040
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 5: went to three, and TWO and i, remember, thinking well

1041
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: it might not be the worst thing in the World

1042
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 5: if edgar strikes out. Right here and so sure enough

1043
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 5: he throws him at three, two break the ball strikes.

1044
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 5: Him out randy's out of. THE game i don't know

1045
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 5: who's coming in, the game but somebody knew was, coming

1046
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 5: in and it kind of delays your time to come to,

1047
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 5: the plate and maybe the shadows. Are better AND so

1048
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 5: i walked up the home PLATE piazza i think was,

1049
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 5: the CATCHER and i looked up THERE and, i, went

1050
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 5: whoa this is WORSE than i thought it was going.

1051
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 5: To be, you know it was just it was hard to,

1052
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 5: pick UP and i thought, to Myself channel park, comes

1053
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 5: in he wants to.

1054
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 4: Get ahead i'm gonna put a short swing.

1055
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 5: On it look for the fastball in the first pitch and,

1056
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 5: try not, you know try to put it. In PLAY

1057
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 5: so i wasn't thinking. HOME run i wasn't thinking. ANYTHING

1058
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 5: else i was just thinking make. Good contact and normally

1059
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 5: when you make, good contact, you know and you swing

1060
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 5: it short and you wait for the ball that your

1061
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 5: natural abilities can. Take over and, sure enough that's. WHAT

1062
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 5: happened i caught it, pretty clean carried out a left,

1063
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 5: center field and the excitement level because it was Your

1064
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 5: Last all, STAR game i just didn't want to. SHOW

1065
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 5: up I want i wanted. TO perform i wanted to.

1066
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 5: Do something and hitting a home run and he first,

1067
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 5: AT bat i felt light footed around a round. THE

1068
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 5: bases i felt fast for the first time in. My

1069
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 5: life and you get to the dugout and.

1070
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 4: It was a really.

1071
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 5: Cool celebration came back for a, curtain call and it

1072
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 5: was a, really good good way to, say goodbye, you

1073
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 5: know At The All.

1074
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: Star game it. Was cool that's.

1075
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: Pretty INCREDIBLE now i want to fast forward To the

1076
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: Hall of fame and your. INDUCTION speech i will never

1077
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: ever forget how great that. Speech was and you opened

1078
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: up with a STORY that i still remember to this

1079
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: day for. Many reasons do you remember what store you

1080
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: opened up that got a huge laughter from the entire

1081
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: crowd and everybody watching.

1082
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: At, Home yeah i'm not sure whether.

1083
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 5: IT was i don't know the order, of IT but

1084
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 5: i mean there was me working with a kid that

1085
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 5: was like eight. Years, old, yes Yes since BILLY and

1086
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 5: i when we left the Game and billy Left the

1087
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 5: lil WORLD and.

1088
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: I did dad had a.

1089
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 5: Baseball school it was our idea to try to help

1090
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 5: kids because we felt my dad was the baseball encyclopedia

1091
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 5: and we had them for. A dad, you know other

1092
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 5: kids don't have the baseball encyclopedia for, a dad and

1093
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 5: so we wanted to help kids be the best that

1094
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 5: they could be and kind of Extend dad's dad's baseball

1095
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 5: school and that's that kind. Of stuff so we were

1096
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 5: doing clinics Up, in ABERDEEN and i remember working with

1097
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 5: kids and just like with your, own kid, you know

1098
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 5: just because you Played me league baseball and you might

1099
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 5: know what you're, talking about it doesn't mean anything to, your.

1100
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 4: Kid or maybe a kid that's eight.

1101
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 5: Years old it's not until you help him and the

1102
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 5: light bulb goes off that, they, said okay maybe.

1103
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 4: You can you can. Help ME but i remember working

1104
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: with a kid and then he wasn't having.

1105
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 5: ANY success i said, try this, try that and all

1106
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 5: of a sudden he did, have success and his eyeballs

1107
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 5: opened up a little bit and he was proud. Of

1108
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 5: himself and then so after the whole thing, was over,

1109
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 5: he goes, he goes so you used to, play baseball.

1110
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 4: Had known that. Long AGO when, i, go yeah and,

1111
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 4: he goes for what team did?

1112
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 5: YOU play i had to tell him WHAT team i.

1113
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 5: Played FOR but, i mean baseball is a. Great game

1114
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 5: it can be humbling in. Many WAYS but i thought,

1115
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 5: that was, you know the honesty of.

1116
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 4: The moment was.

1117
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 5: Pretty good and it WASN'T until i could help him

1118
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 5: that he, really cared, you KNOW who i was OR

1119
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 5: what i?

1120
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: Did Right, and junior you remember the kicker to that

1121
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: story was that kid asked, YOU am i supposed to

1122
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: to know who? You ARE which i thought was just

1123
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: the most priceless.

1124
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 4: Thing EVER should i know who?

1125
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 5: You?

1126
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Are yes and this IS when I Knew jeffrey kirchin

1127
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: was gonna be okay because, he was, you know ten

1128
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: twelve years old at. The time and after you made,

1129
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: your speech he came up. TO you i was, with him,

1130
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: of course and he shook your hand and he said, to,

1131
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: YOU am i.

1132
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 3: Supposed to know who?

1133
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: You are and That was THAT'S when I knew jeffrey

1134
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: had a chance in this business to. Do something it was.

1135
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: Just priceless, and rip this is a father, son podcast,

1136
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: so please just, for me tell us the story about

1137
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: your dad who played soccer in his mid fifties and

1138
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: he came home that day with his, Young, son junior

1139
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: and he's got a giant blood blister under his right.

1140
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Big toe if you don't, TELL it i will. Tell

1141
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: it you tell it better.

1142
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 4: Than, ME well, I mean i feel kind.

1143
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 5: Of funny we covered the ground of the broken nose

1144
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 5: early and me putting it back, in Place and, i'm

1145
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 5: thinking WHERE.

1146
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: Did i get?

1147
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 5: That?

1148
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 2: From right?

1149
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 4: That? From? Dad dad.

1150
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 5: Dad used to, always say, you know when you got a.

1151
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 4: Little injury, you'd say.

1152
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 5: Rub a little tobacco, juice on it'll be all, right

1153
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 5: tomorrow or it'll be all right before. You're married twice

1154
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 5: it was always like a downplay out yet something that was.

1155
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 5: More serious he'd be a little more serious. About it, but,

1156
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah dad, was playing and he. Played soccer he.

1157
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 5: Loved soccer he even said soccer was the greatest game,

1158
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 5: you know. Ever invented he, loved it loved it and

1159
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 5: continued to play into. His adulthood and he, came, home

1160
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 5: uh and we, were kids and he took off his

1161
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 5: socke and then there was a big blood blister under his,

1162
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 5: his nail on his, Big toe and so he went

1163
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 5: out in the garage and got a drill and put

1164
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 5: a drill bit in it and drilled straight down through,

1165
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 5: the uh through the nail and relieved. The pressure and

1166
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 5: then it started squirting out. The top but in the

1167
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 5: process of, doing that you can't control it. Too well

1168
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 5: so then the drill went down a little further than

1169
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 5: it needed and so he was cussing at it or

1170
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 5: whatever else that and my mom looked at him and,

1171
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 5: he said, he said that's what the doctor would have.

1172
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 5: Done anyway and then, he, said yeah but the doctor

1173
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 5: would have done it a little bit, more precisely, he said,

1174
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 5: he said it'll be.

1175
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: All Right, and jude you're just finished. With this your

1176
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: dad bought You and Billy for christmas one year metal.

1177
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: Protective CUPS do i have that?

1178
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 6: Story, CORRECT well i don't know if he bought it,

1179
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 6: or NOT but, i mean in the day he, was playing,

1180
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 6: you know as, a catcher he had he had collected

1181
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 6: and and.

1182
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 5: The place that you need to protect was he had

1183
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 5: a couple of. Metal CUPS and i didn't know if

1184
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 5: anybody that had, metal cups, you know that. Was there

1185
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 5: and so it was almost like a rite of passage

1186
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 5: when he, got drafted, you know before you, went away,

1187
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 5: you know he gave you a he gave me an,

1188
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 5: oriole bag the, equipment bag and he gave me a

1189
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 5: jockstrap with this cup.

1190
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: In it and, he, said uh and.

1191
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 5: So you, go away and he did HE had i

1192
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 5: didn't know he had a. Other one but we did

1193
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 5: the same Thing to Billy when billy. Went away, and yes,

1194
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: that uh that cup might be the only piece of

1195
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 5: memorabilia THAT that i wore every bit of my.

1196
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: Professional career, All, right rip, last question we'll let. YOU

1197
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: Go a Hall of fame induction is in a couple.

1198
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: Of weeks i'll see.

1199
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: You there tell me what it's like for you after

1200
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: all these years to go back. To.

1201
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 5: Cooperstaff yeah so the first YEAR after i, GOT inducted

1202
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 5: i didn't go back that that first Year because ryan

1203
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 5: was playing IN an aau basketball Tournam in VEGAS and

1204
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 5: i wasn't going to. Miss that, and so, YOU know

1205
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 5: I Told Jane, forbes clark, YOU know, i said, You

1206
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 5: know i'll, be back, YOU know, i SAID but i can't,

1207
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 5: do it, you know. This year and then, she said,

1208
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 5: she goes it's, very special so. You should you should

1209
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 5: come back. Every year and so the following YEAR when i,

1210
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 5: came back she was, absolutely right because, You're relaxed you're

1211
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 5: enjoying the company of the of the great greatest players,

1212
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 5: the game and.

1213
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 4: You're you're around and and it's it's much.

1214
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 5: More COMFORTING and I start i started to really like

1215
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 5: listening to the speeches of, the players and and some can,

1216
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 5: go LONG but, i mean it's, Their moment so. Who

1217
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 5: cares some of The other hall of, Famers, think okay

1218
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 5: you got, five minutes get off. The stage but But

1219
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 5: when i'm sitting, Back there i'm amazed that they always

1220
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 5: identify as special person in, their life whether normally, a

1221
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 5: teacher normally a coach that really, gave them, you know

1222
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 5: the support that kind of pushed. Them on and so

1223
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 5: they go back and they try to thank the people

1224
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 5: that were most important. To THEM and i really enjoy

1225
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 5: that part of it going back and they start to

1226
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 5: get to know the. Players better we have a, little group, You,

1227
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 5: Know Eddie, ozzie griff, You Know, larry walker, you know

1228
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 5: had dinner, With Us. Ryan samberg, you know there's little

1229
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 5: clicks that happened In the Hall of fame, as well,

1230
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 5: and uh and we enjoy getting together and just having

1231
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 5: fun for those three or four days that. Were THERE

1232
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 5: so i wouldn't, miss it, you know for anything less

1233
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 5: than my son playing in the.

1234
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 4: Basketball game and my son won the tournament out.

1235
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 5: There in vegas and they were losing by eleven and

1236
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 5: a half time to a team that was, really Good

1237
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 5: and ryan came out in the second half and just

1238
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 5: was hot and and basically put them on their back

1239
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 5: and they ended, up winning and he was voted the

1240
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 5: most outstanding player in.

1241
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: The tournament So if i'm going to. Miss one i'm

1242
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 4: gonna miss it, for that.

1243
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: Right well this is, so Great rip we started with

1244
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: basketball and we will end with Basketball With ryan ripkin winning.

1245
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 1: A tournament thank you so much for. Joining us we'll

1246
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: see You. In Cooperstown And jeffrey kirchen say thank You.

1247
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 3: To calrow thank.

1248
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: You seriously you've been on my dad's short list since

1249
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: the beginning when we started this at the beginning of,

1250
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: the season and no better week than to have You

1251
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: On All. Star week, Thank.

1252
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 5: You, Cal Fantastic, SO billy, i say, Keep, saying Billy,

1253
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 5: Maybe billy Bryan and me will have to come back on.

1254
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: Your, show yes oh, my gosh talk.

1255
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: About that the Relationship between Billy and cal is the

1256
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: one of the Great relationships i've. Ever seen they make

1257
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: me Laugh because Billy makes junior laugh better Than anyone i've.

1258
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: Ever Seen junior i'm right, about, That right i'm.

1259
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 5: The, Straight man Billy's the you'll never know what's going

1260
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 5: to come Out of, billy's Mouth.

1261
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: Right well can't wait to Have three ripkins on the.

1262
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: Next time thank you for. THIS one i. Appreciate, It cal, thank,

1263
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: You right.

1264
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: Welcome guys thanks again To Caw. Ripkins junior what an, Amazing,

1265
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: interview dad big big shout out for getting him on.

1266
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: The show Nineteen Time. All star so much fun to

1267
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: be able to chat. With him and one thing that

1268
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: really struck me in talking, To him dad was how

1269
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: much he talked about, his brother but not necessarily about

1270
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: his game on, the field but about his personality and

1271
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: the character he was off. The field do you have

1272
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: any great Stories About billy ripkin about his personality?

1273
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: Per, Se well, First, off jeff he was a great defensive,

1274
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: second base not a, good one a. Great one and

1275
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: nobody hung up in on the double play Better Than

1276
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: billy ripkin and he made the. Turn beautifully so if

1277
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: anyone ever tells You That billy ripkin was just On

1278
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: the orioles because his brother was, the shortstop do not listen.

1279
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: To Them billy ripkin was a good major league player

1280
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: and one of the best defensive Second basemen i've. Ever seen,

1281
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: and yes he's one of the funniest People that i've ever.

1282
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: Been Around and i'll. Never forget it Was a sunday

1283
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: Morning At, fenway park and this is like nineteen, eighty

1284
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: seven and it's raining Outside and billy is eating a

1285
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: chocolate donut that is roughly the size of a. Manhole,

1286
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: cover okay and, he's thinking he's thinking, to himself and

1287
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: HE'S watching tv and, he says so WHAT should i

1288
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: do here as he's eating this? Chocolate DONUT should I

1289
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: Watch The, three stooges which he's WATCHING, on tv OR

1290
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: should i Go. To chapel that was the decision he

1291
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: had to Make The three stooges or Go. To chapel

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Speaker 1: so he's finished his donut and he Went. To chapel

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Speaker 1: but when that was the kind of Guy that. Billy

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Speaker 1: was as, we said Nobody Made cal junior laugh More Than.

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Speaker 2: Billy ripkin thank you so much. FOR listening i hope

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Speaker 2: you Enjoy The All. Star game if you're listening to

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Speaker 2: this on the morning Of The All, star game enjoy the.

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Speaker 2: GAME tonight a big shout out and thank you once

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Speaker 2: Again To. Caliphon jr for. Joining us dad will be

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Speaker 2: back together From the Hall of fame next week with

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Speaker 2: Special Guest, johnny bench so make sure if you thought cal,

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Speaker 2: was great we're so looking forward to Chatting with Johnny.

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Speaker 2: In cooperstown thank you, for listening and, as always thank

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Speaker 2: you for being a part of.

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Speaker 1: Our family