Speaker 1: Hey Lyle, Hi, Hey, hey, I've been calling for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm happy I finally made it.
Speaker 2: What is your name?
Speaker 1: My name is Eureka.
Speaker 2: Nice to meet Eureka. You texted me and you said, yeah, hey, Gecko,
Speaker 2: I'm Rika. I currently live in Tokyo, Japan. I've been
Speaker 2: calling for a while, not sure how to reach you.
Speaker 2: Let me know. Thank you. And I don't know, I
Speaker 2: was just I'm I was just curious, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm just curious. I'm just curious. What's going
Speaker 2: on with Eureka, What's how's your life going? What made
Speaker 2: you want to contact me?
Speaker 1: Oh? You know, I was in your your show in
Speaker 1: Shibuya last year and was amazing. You won't tell her,
Speaker 1: but I was very I was very interval. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: too shy to reach you out, and I was just
Speaker 1: kind of in that stage, I kind of you know,
Speaker 1: just look at you.
Speaker 2: You So yeah, I did it, shout out. I love
Speaker 2: I love these guys. I'll be back there at some
Speaker 2: point on my next trip to Japan. But the Tokyo
Speaker 2: every every time I go. So so you were okay,
Speaker 2: So you were at that show? Did we did we talk?
Speaker 1: I mean, I try to talk to you, but it's
Speaker 1: so popular with people like Okay, I just write, enjoy
Speaker 1: your time, you know, like you're having a real good
Speaker 1: time there. I have.
Speaker 2: I love, I freaking love Japan. I love I love Tokyo.
Speaker 2: If I if I had, if I couldn't, I will
Speaker 2: I I I want to come back there, like I mean,
Speaker 2: I was living there for two months. I thought I
Speaker 2: was living there for two months, uh like a year ago,
Speaker 2: and I thought I thought I was going to move there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought I was going to move there. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I I love New York. If I I maybe I'll
Speaker 2: live in Tokyo again at some point, I'd really like to.
Speaker 2: But right know, I'm enjoying New York. But well, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop. I'm going to stop talking about myself
Speaker 2: for two seconds, and I'm going to ask you it's
Speaker 2: okay if not, it's okay if you just wanted to chat.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we have lots that we can chat about.
Speaker 1: But oh no, there's actually actually one thing about me
Speaker 1: I want to talk about it. I will make it sure,
Speaker 1: I will make it too long. So I want to
Speaker 1: talk about a female masturbation of these kind of things
Speaker 1: because I've been talking with a guy about jerking off,
Speaker 1: and they don't believe me that, like I don't need
Speaker 1: anything or touching myself to make myself feel orgsen because
Speaker 1: I can just watch porn and to reach out that
Speaker 1: kind of feeling, and they just feel like I'm a
Speaker 1: kind of weird kind type of person. So I just
Speaker 1: I just don't think like guy will ever understanding that
Speaker 1: how female body works. And actually we can just intertain
Speaker 1: ourselves to feel satisfied with movement.
Speaker 2: You're telling me that you can come, Yeah, using just
Speaker 2: your brand, you can, but you don't have to touch
Speaker 2: yourself at all. You can just be watching porn and
Speaker 2: you can come just using your own brand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just watching I prefer agent type of porn,
Speaker 1: So I just watch it and then find the genre
Speaker 1: I like it and then I can finish down in
Speaker 1: under ten minutes. Now, all tell you I can do
Speaker 1: all the stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay. So I have multiple questions if you're willing to
Speaker 2: answer them.
Speaker 1: Sure, So like.
Speaker 2: When you are you okay? So like are you are
Speaker 2: you applying any like pressure mentally? You know, like are
Speaker 2: you like like okay in the sense of like okay?
Speaker 2: So like if if if I'm masturbating, I can like
Speaker 2: choose how much force to put upon my genitals, and
Speaker 2: I can and it's like, I guess, like edging or whatever,
Speaker 2: Like I can, I can turn that force up and
Speaker 2: down like a faucet. Right, Are you doing that with
Speaker 2: your are you doing that with your brain? Or is
Speaker 2: it just like a like you put on the porn
Speaker 2: and it's like a steady you know, walk to the
Speaker 2: finish line.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of both, but I'm more like a I
Speaker 1: would say I'm very sexually hot. I'm a highly sexual person,
Speaker 1: but with a man or with a woman, I'm bisexual.
Speaker 1: But I can't reach out that kind of climax with
Speaker 1: the people with a human kind. But I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I'm poor diction or what. But if I watch porn
Speaker 1: or just watch a well I don't know, like a
Speaker 1: poorn article or whatever, it will make me reach high
Speaker 1: climates and make me feel really good. And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure like what kind of condition or what what? What
Speaker 1: the what the fuck is issue with me? But just
Speaker 1: like it's hard for me to really have a real
Speaker 1: good sex with people because I cannot feel lot interesting.
Speaker 2: So okay, so watch just watching porn alone? So just
Speaker 2: watching porn alone, not even touching yourself is a sexual Okay,
Speaker 2: so that's a better sexual experience for you than like
Speaker 2: being with an actual human being. Yes, yes, interesting. Well
Speaker 2: you know what's funny is uh? I mean I think
Speaker 2: like if I had to think of if I were
Speaker 2: thinking about like the I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 2: masturbating and like having sex, they're almost they're like they're
Speaker 2: a little apple and orange in a way. They're kind
Speaker 2: of too different experiences that give different they're they're they're
Speaker 2: not like a one to one pleasure ratio, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like do you still do you still
Speaker 2: like take pleasure in having sex in like its own
Speaker 2: unique way, in its own way like pleasure in a
Speaker 2: way that's kind of like unique to masturbation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not I'm dating or looking for
Speaker 1: any do right now because I feel like they it
Speaker 1: just I'm certifying now, or it's just like I don't
Speaker 1: want to waste my time on people I don't like,
Speaker 1: or just you know, having hookup that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So pretty much just like I'm just watched tooth whyever
Speaker 1: I like and just done ten minutes or time minutes
Speaker 1: and no I don't know. I don't know what's wrong
Speaker 1: with me? Is that just something I kind of kind
Speaker 1: of like it. I guess, well, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think there's anything I don't think there's anything inherently
Speaker 2: wrong with you. I think there's a lot of I
Speaker 2: don't think there's anything wrong. I mean, it's definitely fascinating
Speaker 2: that you just like have trained yourself to because it's
Speaker 2: because some I feel like, because there's some women where
Speaker 2: like they need a lot, like you know, they got
Speaker 2: to build a fucking pee wee Herman breakfast machine to
Speaker 2: have a have an orgasm, and for you to just
Speaker 2: like do it with your brain is very interesting. But
Speaker 2: I don't think anything. I don't think it's anything wrong
Speaker 2: with you. I mean there's there's just like a lot
Speaker 2: of people who prefer yeah, well, I guess like prefer
Speaker 2: poorn and masturbating to like the Well, let me ask
Speaker 2: you this, is it just like because obviously, obviously man
Speaker 2: or it's easier to just like sit at home and
Speaker 2: watch porn and masturbate than it is to like do
Speaker 2: the whole fucking thing that is required to.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get. I mean I
Speaker 1: get what one man feels like it's a kind of
Speaker 1: a lot of work. Why don't they just watching porn?
Speaker 1: I finished that and they can do all the things.
Speaker 1: I get that, and that's why I feel said too,
Speaker 1: I like having sex with a man or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of too much work because I could
Speaker 1: have to pretend it, you know, like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: and that sucks.
Speaker 2: Oh you've oh you've like had to like fake an orgasm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel it, but it's not like
Speaker 1: that kind of good or it's like a probably one
Speaker 1: or two second that kind of feeling, but it's not
Speaker 1: really reach out that kind of you know, so you
Speaker 1: still have to like stay thank you for that person
Speaker 1: for put the appro on your body, you know, otherwise
Speaker 1: it kind of sucks. M hm.
Speaker 2: How did so, like, what's the what's the have you
Speaker 2: Have you been to the US before or like lived there,
Speaker 2: spend any time there?
Speaker 1: No? I never, but I a lot of foreigners.
Speaker 2: Interesting, So what is what is like the dating scene
Speaker 2: like for you in Tokyo?
Speaker 1: In Tokyo, So, I'm I'm not sure. I'm I'm it's
Speaker 1: my preference or I'm just racist. I'm just I don't
Speaker 1: like agent that much. It's not because they're peanuts or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't find their looks is something like, you know,
Speaker 1: I find it really handsome or anything. So I prefer
Speaker 1: like a like an English people who speak English and
Speaker 1: they they I don't. I just find a lot of
Speaker 1: common with with you, with people, uh you know, American
Speaker 1: or European, that type of people, and you know, somehow
Speaker 1: we just end out on the bed and something. But
Speaker 1: the sex is just not nothing that impressed me.
Speaker 2: What is it that you think you find more in
Speaker 2: common with foreigners than with Asian people?
Speaker 1: Common there's no common with foreigner agent people, I mean
Speaker 1: agent people. They are not really cool, express their feeling
Speaker 1: and them sell whenever they are dating. I think it's
Speaker 1: just very confused me and I don't like it because
Speaker 1: I'm very direct person. If I like you, I like you,
Speaker 1: if we connect, we have a good chemistry, then we
Speaker 1: can you know, just go go the next step. I
Speaker 1: just prefer like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I give you. But I know that I
Speaker 2: feel like I talked to someone about this on this podcast.
Speaker 2: But there's there's a word in Japanese or like a
Speaker 2: phrase of like like the two faces, like the one
Speaker 2: you show to the public.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Japanese. Like actually
Speaker 1: from Taiwan. I've been being japan for a while. That's kot.
Speaker 2: I thought you're Japanese.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was born in Japan. It's kind of complicated,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm but.
Speaker 2: You were you were born in Japan.
Speaker 1: Though I was born in Osaka.
Speaker 2: That makes that makes Japanese, doesn't it?
Speaker 1: Now? Because uh, my parents choose my nationality still in Taiwan,
Speaker 1: so I'm not Japanese.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, I guess do they have the same thing
Speaker 2: that if you're born in America, you just automatically granted
Speaker 2: the citizenship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I don't know much about America,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's a you know, I'm fucked up. Taiwan
Speaker 1: is kind of fucked up now. A wife, I guess,
Speaker 1: did you grow up into what?
Speaker 2: Did you grow up in Taiwan or did you grow
Speaker 2: up in Japan?
Speaker 1: I after high school, I graduated and I decided to
Speaker 1: move to move back to Japan. I don't see my
Speaker 1: future much in Taiwan, so I started college and worked here.
Speaker 1: Still now I still in them. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Do you I mean the whole thing of like, but
Speaker 2: the whole thing of like I guess being like generally
Speaker 2: like being reserved or trying to like, like you say,
Speaker 2: you're a very direct person, Like do you feel like
Speaker 2: in like Javanese culture too that like that's like discouraged.
Speaker 1: I don't know, or just my personality is kind of
Speaker 1: like very forward and kind of strong, the kind of
Speaker 1: like mummy type of the dummy type of that kind
Speaker 1: of feeling to people. Most of like just say I'm
Speaker 1: I'm too much too strong. The power is like what
Speaker 1: is it? I mean, like I don't know. People people
Speaker 1: give me to kind of different kind of answer. One
Speaker 1: is like I really like it was very scared.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I are the people. I think
Speaker 2: that there's probably a strong overlap between those two groups. Yeah, interesting,
Speaker 2: have you have you always? Uh so? Have you always
Speaker 2: been like that? Have you always been kind of like
Speaker 2: a more direct, assertive person or is that something that
Speaker 2: you developed?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm very I think I'm way too direct
Speaker 1: or maybe I'm just autistic. I don't know. Man, it's
Speaker 1: just like liszt and I offend it and it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to be friends or make friends here because
Speaker 1: my you know, Japan. People in Japan are very conservative,
Speaker 1: They don't. They have to sink some sink before they say.
Speaker 1: But I don't have that process. I just say it,
Speaker 1: and I might might hurt someone or my you know
Speaker 1: being like being will be in trouble while. So it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to make friends here.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmmm. No, I know that it's a
Speaker 2: very I know it's a very reserved culture for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, I've I've I have like friends
Speaker 2: in Japan who are Japanese who talk about talk about
Speaker 2: all that. Yeah, do you go to a lot of
Speaker 2: like I know, there's a lot like this is a
Speaker 2: huge like foreigner community there, do you like? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, I was actually was I was doing
Speaker 1: bottle humping hopping like yesterday in Hinjukupa. Yeah, there's nothing
Speaker 1: much going on. I was just at like a city
Speaker 1: record bar or something, and it's it's funny, like no
Speaker 1: one really talked to me or or trying to give
Speaker 1: me a look or anything. So it's pretty sad here.
Speaker 2: Fuck you, honestly, you you're talking about going bar hopping
Speaker 2: and Shinjuku is fucking making me want to be in
Speaker 2: Japan so badly right now. Yeah, it's it's h dude,
Speaker 2: it's funny Japan, like like I know, it's like I know,
Speaker 2: it's like a meme. It's kind of like a meme
Speaker 2: at this point Japan, like like like a fucking white
Speaker 2: guy love in Japan, Like but I mean it makes
Speaker 2: it makes sense because like if you if you're if
Speaker 2: you just like come there from like the West and
Speaker 2: you like dick around like with all the cool shit,
Speaker 2: like yeah, of course you're gonna have a good time.
Speaker 2: But if you like are born there and grow up
Speaker 2: there and like deal with the the like every like
Speaker 2: everything is nice there, Like guess the thing is everything
Speaker 2: is like nicer there and cleaner there. But why And
Speaker 2: then you're like, well because of a general generally more
Speaker 2: conservative uh culture which is probably like more fun to
Speaker 2: I which I assume is more fun to like visit
Speaker 2: than it is to like go to school or work in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's clean, but sometimes you feel like too much,
Speaker 1: like you just want to like it's a little bit
Speaker 1: mass a little bit like LISZT and La is fine,
Speaker 1: but Japan is like really they need to be kind
Speaker 1: of old CD. They need to be two hundred percent
Speaker 1: like las or I don't know.
Speaker 2: So people are not uh chatting you up in the bar.
Speaker 2: Nobody's nobody's uh yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Last night, let me tell you one last thing.
Speaker 1: Last night, I was at your Coast color as a
Speaker 1: military American military bar there and there's a guy I
Speaker 1: really like it. Hey look like a Harvey Divens and
Speaker 1: that kind of bike rider, that kind of gain type
Speaker 1: of do. And I found he's so hot and I
Speaker 1: straight I just walked straight to him and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I like how you look like. And he kind of supper.
Speaker 1: I don't scared. I'm not sure. I'm trying to read
Speaker 1: his mind that he just give me a look and
Speaker 1: give me say oh, thank you, and then he just
Speaker 1: say have a good day, and he laughed. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, wait, well why would you be sorry?
Speaker 2: It say? He sounded he seemed flattered.
Speaker 3: I don't know, he just laugh. I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: like I just.
Speaker 1: Like he wants to be quiet. But maybe I just like,
Speaker 1: shouldn't shouldn't just walk away and say you're looking to
Speaker 1: whatever or this guy doesn't like that anymore.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, you gotta shoot your shot. You got to
Speaker 2: shoot your shot.
Speaker 1: I did, baby and baby gaggle.
Speaker 2: I did you got to shoot your shot? I think
Speaker 2: you sound you gotta keep shooting your shot. I mean,
Speaker 2: are you you said that you don't want to date anymore?
Speaker 2: Are you like trying to find like a like like
Speaker 2: a like a like a real relationship.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not I'm not even I'm dating up
Speaker 1: or anything, because I'm just wasting my time. So basically
Speaker 1: I'm just like going out and just see the people.
Speaker 1: I think it's cool. Maybe, or go to a bar.
Speaker 1: It's more easy to talk to people, but it's hard, man.
Speaker 1: Just like I probably just fucked myself to death.
Speaker 2: Wow, fucking yourself to death without even touching yourself sounds
Speaker 2: like a crazy way to die.
Speaker 1: Well, get it. I mean that's a that's a very
Speaker 1: very poetic way to die, and it's kind of a
Speaker 1: beautiful way to die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Definitely, Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want anyone fuck you up, so
Speaker 1: I just fuck yourself in another way?
Speaker 2: Do you can? I ask you? Okay, I just one
Speaker 2: more question about the like masturbating mentally thing. Do you
Speaker 2: are you? Are you like? Are you like the X
Speaker 2: Men where you're like staring deeply into your vagina while
Speaker 2: you're doing it or are you like are your eyes
Speaker 2: closed and you're somewhere else? Like where are you looking at?
Speaker 1: I I'm just watching a video and my mind will
Speaker 1: just give me like a vibe. Do you know there's
Speaker 1: a kind of yoga will give you a kind of
Speaker 1: vibration and your whole body you'll feel something that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Mhm, something like that, I think. But it's
Speaker 1: different because I'm not doing yoga. I'm just my brain
Speaker 1: giving it kind of like a feeling or whatever was
Speaker 1: I pull English? I don't know. And then you're you're
Speaker 1: your dumb part, you will doing something for you, and
Speaker 1: then you were rich a really good high climax.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Always plan to you because not even
Speaker 1: the chadge if he or my daughter know what's going
Speaker 1: on with me. Oh you have a daughter, I have
Speaker 1: a I have a dactor. I have a therapy and
Speaker 1: I told him about it and he don't understand what's
Speaker 1: going on too.
Speaker 2: What is your how old is your daughter?
Speaker 1: My? Oh? My daughter? My daughter? Not not not my daughter?
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh okay, okay you're okay doctor and therapist. Okay,
Speaker 2: I thought you said your daughter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean, I don't think I'm capable for
Speaker 1: having kids anyway.
Speaker 2: Wait, you asked your doctor about is it. I don't
Speaker 2: know if this is this a I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is a medical This is kind of like when
Speaker 2: that kid on the playground would be like, look, I
Speaker 2: can pop my like thumb out of its socket. You know,
Speaker 2: it's I don't know if it's like a medical issue
Speaker 2: or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he say he can't help with that. He just
Speaker 1: tell me. It's like, do whatever makes you happy, That's
Speaker 1: what he say. I was like, Okay, then maybe I
Speaker 1: would just suck really handsOn tree if I find one.
Speaker 2: You will, you'll do what.
Speaker 1: I'd say if I maybe I would desperately just find
Speaker 1: a handsOn tree and suck the tree.
Speaker 2: Then Oh yeah, okay, I think you're talking about like
Speaker 2: a literal I was good. I thought you were talking
Speaker 2: about like a litteral tree.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a tree? Have you ever seen
Speaker 2: two trees next to each other where you're like, you
Speaker 2: look at one and you're like and you're like, I'd
Speaker 2: fuck that tree, but I wouldn't fuck that tree.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you have no idea how many times I
Speaker 1: want to suck a tree.
Speaker 2: Bro, why would you want Why do you want to
Speaker 2: suck a tree?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just so sick and strong. I
Speaker 1: like strong men, and that kind of muscular is remind
Speaker 1: me of just like kind of I don't know, just
Speaker 1: kind of connect with the tree. I don't have no idea.
Speaker 2: Why that makes perfect No, it makes perfect sense. I
Speaker 2: like that a tree is your here being out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what'll get if someday you can find
Speaker 1: that it might be in a four is fucking a tree?
Speaker 2: That's not a bad way to go, either fucking yourself
Speaker 2: to death or I either fucking yourself to death or
Speaker 2: escaping into the wilderness. To have orgies with trees are
Speaker 2: not Yeah. I actually I think before do me a favorite,
Speaker 2: before you fuck yourself to death, which I hope you
Speaker 2: don't do. I really hope you don't do. Okay, you should, Yeah,
Speaker 2: consider having like having having tree orgies. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 2: I get trees being hot. There are they're providers. They
Speaker 2: provide nutrients for the rest of uh for like the animals.
Speaker 2: They provide us with the stable that I'm leaning on
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, trees are hot. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you're with me.
Speaker 2: Man, I might go. Maybe I well, I live in
Speaker 2: New York, so I there's no place. There's no place
Speaker 2: where I could suck a tree that I wouldn't get arrested.
Speaker 2: But maybe I don't know about it when I'm back
Speaker 2: home off the tree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. If I fire a tree that
Speaker 1: you like, and you know, the sick one, then the
Speaker 1: sick the better.
Speaker 2: How often are you how often are you going out
Speaker 2: to these bars in Tokyo?
Speaker 1: So lately I'm trying different type of a different bar.
Speaker 1: There's a like a Vieni style bar record or the
Speaker 1: seventies ict pop a bar or type of music bar.
Speaker 1: I'm trying different ones, and like two times a week
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: Do you do you work?
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, what do you do? I'm I'm ana
Speaker 1: like it was I called English? So there? Do you
Speaker 1: know in Japan there's like a dollar shop it's called Dyson.
Speaker 2: Yeah I know the Dyson.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I work there.
Speaker 2: Oh cool?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah fuck man you know that fuck you know it's
Speaker 2: so stupid. I'm so stud you know that meme that's
Speaker 2: like thing thing Japan.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which means though there's a lot of
Speaker 1: meanings all right.
Speaker 2: So there's okay, there's this meme and it's like a
Speaker 2: do you know what a woejack is?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, no world jack.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's it's like all right, So it's like a wojack.
Speaker 2: And for those who don't know what everyone listening to
Speaker 2: this knows what a wojack is, even if they don't know,
Speaker 2: it's called wojack. So just google wojack and you'll know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. So it's uh, it's the it's like,
Speaker 2: it's a wojack. Who's like okay, So imagine a wojack
Speaker 2: and he's looking at the dollar store in America and
Speaker 2: he's like eh, and then the bottom is a wojack
Speaker 2: and he's doing that like OMG, that's so cool face
Speaker 2: and it's the dicon.
Speaker 1: Oh what the helmet.
Speaker 2: It's like this, say, it's like a fucking dollar here,
Speaker 2: it would be a dollar store. It's not that cool.
Speaker 2: But in Japan it's like a thing is like man,
Speaker 2: but thing Japan is like whoa, that's so crazy.
Speaker 1: Wait, they do have a dye song in Hawaii or
Speaker 1: they don't have the men America they have.
Speaker 2: They have most they have a lot of the Japanese
Speaker 2: ship in uh in Hawaii, like seven eleven is shitty here,
Speaker 2: but it's great in Japan and it's also great in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what a geyko?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: Dude? If you ever come you ever come back here? Actually,
Speaker 1: I actually have check your instagram sometimes. If you ever
Speaker 1: come back here, we should hang out with what's that
Speaker 1: called sinset? What's a sense martians Martian?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's my boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's your boy.
Speaker 1: Let's time I met him as well as your show man.
Speaker 2: He's yeah fuck yeah, wait, how do you know? How
Speaker 2: do you for reference? Uh? Since since since I made
Speaker 2: a video where I walked across uh a part of Japan.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I met I made it with this a
Speaker 2: friend of mine, Jace Sense Martian, friend of mine Sense Marsham. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how do you know him?
Speaker 1: I you know what? I know him earlier leting you
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Speaker 1: on the Instagram and I found.
Speaker 2: Wait you met him?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 2: You met you found out about Sense Martian before you
Speaker 2: before you found out about me through Sense Martian.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is cool Doo and I'm glad you saw
Speaker 1: him because he's a kool Doo man.
Speaker 2: I was so for Okay, So for the listeners, I'll
Speaker 2: tell a brief story. I was in Japan in uh
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty two and I was live streaming, like
Speaker 2: on the street. I was doing like an IRL stream
Speaker 2: and in my chat this guy was And then in
Speaker 2: my chat, this guy was like, uh, yo, I know
Speaker 2: where you. I know where that is that you are.
Speaker 2: I was like near some temple I think since so
Speaker 2: g or something like that. I was here something famous temple.
Speaker 2: I was at a soak. Yeah, I was at a
Speaker 2: soaksa and this guy sense Martian in my chat is like, yo,
Speaker 2: I know where you are. Stay right there. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'll come say what's up. And I was like, there's
Speaker 2: a guy in my chat who like lives in Tokyo.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck? And so everyone else
Speaker 2: in the chat is like, no, it's always I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll wait for you. I was getting extreme sniped by
Speaker 2: this guy. And then everyone else in the chat is like, no, Lyle,
Speaker 2: don't wait because this guy is just trolling you. This
Speaker 2: is just a random dude probably lives in Nebraska. He's
Speaker 2: just trolling you, making you wait there, think he's gonna
Speaker 2: meet you. And I said to all them, I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, No, I believe in sense Martian. I
Speaker 2: think Sinsey Martian is a real guy who lives in Japan.
Speaker 2: Who's who's gonna stream snuf bus and come over and
Speaker 2: say what's up? And my chat was like, no, while
Speaker 2: you're you're an idiot, you're being fooled and lo and
Speaker 2: behold a man yeah comes out, comes up to me
Speaker 2: and I'm like and he's like, yo, Lyle, what's up?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, are you since a Martian? He's like,
Speaker 2: I'm since a Martian? And then he and I walked
Speaker 2: and chatted on the live stream for like three hours
Speaker 2: or some shit like that. We became homies.
Speaker 1: Holy yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Then and then this fucking guy Uh Okay, so so
Speaker 2: I met him because he streamslipes me. And then this
Speaker 2: guy Uh messages me like a year later or something
Speaker 2: and he's like, yo, I I actually walked actually, like
Speaker 2: he said to them me like uh yo. Like we
Speaker 2: talked a lot about like get like I was trying
Speaker 2: to get into live streaming at the time, and since
Speaker 2: then I have walked across all of Japan. This motherfucker
Speaker 2: literally literally walked from the very top of Japan all
Speaker 2: the way to the very bottom. Yeah. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: a story of sense. It's really crazy. That's crazy. You
Speaker 2: know through him?
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I know him before you know him already.
Speaker 2: Hmmm mm hmmm are you when did you how long
Speaker 2: have you been living in Tokyo for.
Speaker 1: I'm living Japan for sixteen years?
Speaker 2: I know, sixteen years. Yeah, dude, you know what's crazy?
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you have thoughts about this, uh,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is like an Asian
Speaker 2: culture thing or a japan I'm gonna know. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say this is like a Japan thing. But it's weird
Speaker 2: to be because you're talking about like the the like
Speaker 2: mental masturbation stuff. One thing that was always like kind
Speaker 2: of weird to me is that is that Japan has
Speaker 2: like supposedly this Japan has this like very like conservative culture,
Speaker 2: but yet they also have this reputation for like zany
Speaker 2: like stuff and like like crazy those crazy TV shows
Speaker 2: and like you know, crazy.
Speaker 1: Like they can be. They can be crazy and nasty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can be like they like. They're also known
Speaker 2: for like like crazy sex stuff like Shibari the rope
Speaker 2: tying ship and like like I've been to that like
Speaker 2: crazy get.
Speaker 1: Get do you want go get? I know I know people,
Speaker 1: you know you know people? Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: You might have you might have. You might have to
Speaker 2: send me a d M after this.
Speaker 1: I want?
Speaker 2: But is that but the ICONM? But you know, I'm curious,
Speaker 2: like why do you think that? Why do you think that?
Speaker 2: Is of like there's a thing where they are, uh, simultaneously,
Speaker 2: there's this weird conservative thing that's like alongside this like
Speaker 2: very zany culture and all this kind of crazy sex
Speaker 2: stuff like what is like and it's like the jav
Speaker 2: industry and like there's all like there is a lot
Speaker 2: of like like what's up with that? What's up with that? Contradiction?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Japan's like you're very bipolar. Either it's really like uh,
Speaker 1: you know nothing or there's something going on on the ground.
Speaker 1: So yes, I mean if you know people, then you know,
Speaker 1: like this country is like it's true, it's beyond hand
Speaker 1: tie actually beyond hand Tai like extremely weird. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: beyond hand Ti. It's real like because I mean it
Speaker 1: kind of a special group of people and I know
Speaker 1: them and I see them and if I I mean,
Speaker 1: do you know happening bar? Get I I might know.
Speaker 2: What I know what I know what happening bar is.
Speaker 2: I've never been to one, but I know what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was because I was curious, So I
Speaker 1: was there. So it was.
Speaker 2: Very like what you went to the happening bar?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Actually, yeah, what what was it like? So? Uh?
Speaker 2: I was?
Speaker 1: I was there along land somehow there's a I you know,
Speaker 1: there's a room for people just sit there, but there's
Speaker 1: another room for people to have a sexual activity and
Speaker 1: you can just like look from the people like hall
Speaker 1: and look at them having sex and you can join
Speaker 1: or not, and there will be some more and more
Speaker 1: people going out and the group of people getting bang
Speaker 1: or what ra is it? And you can hear like
Speaker 1: there they're sound and why ra is it going on?
Speaker 1: Actually just like three D sets in front of you.
Speaker 2: So that for those who don't know the happening bar
Speaker 2: is basically it's like a swinger's are pretty much where like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, English, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a swingers bar pretty much. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: so I heard that I know that there's like a
Speaker 2: thing where you can like look through the window to
Speaker 2: see people having sex. Now it's now I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you know what kabook Chow.
Speaker 1: Yeah mostly I got yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Where all the like kabuk show is where all the
Speaker 2: like crazy stuff happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no one there.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, I know that there's like
Speaker 2: like okay, so I know, I know that. I think
Speaker 2: there's some happening bars that are like foreigners can go to,
Speaker 2: but they're mostly like only allowed if you're like Japanese.
Speaker 1: Right, m that's not really Actually there's a lot of
Speaker 1: you know why the country people you can come just
Speaker 1: bring an idea and you can just sunk wherever you
Speaker 1: like him.
Speaker 2: So, how how would you rate your experience at the
Speaker 2: happening bar?
Speaker 1: I only been layer once. I mean I was too
Speaker 1: pussy to stay there longer because of all the ship
Speaker 1: going on. I will say it's like a seven hours
Speaker 1: of ten.
Speaker 2: Wait, seven of ten is pretty good rating? Was it
Speaker 2: was it? Like?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What like was this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did it feel weird?
Speaker 1: It feels definitely weird. It feels like a different dimension
Speaker 1: because everyone just just like eating any another person eating
Speaker 1: another ad another person analytic that kind of things that
Speaker 1: you know, would you just for you to to to say,
Speaker 1: I mean, you just have to win you see yourself?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, I would be very fascinated to go.
Speaker 2: I was, I would be very fascinated to see what's
Speaker 2: going on in these happening.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you should. You should go with the sense
Speaker 1: that Marsha, I.
Speaker 2: Do not know if I don't know, if I don't
Speaker 2: know if Sanse Marshall would come with me to a
Speaker 2: happening bart. Yeah, I don't know if you would come
Speaker 2: just happens.
Speaker 1: I mean, or just go yourself after that makeup podcast
Speaker 1: about that and my my my journey of it. But
Speaker 1: like what you can't bring any like a video.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. But here's the thing though, is
Speaker 2: like like a single I feel like a single dude
Speaker 2: rocking in alone is not going to have the best
Speaker 2: time at a happening bar.
Speaker 1: I'd have to imagine, well, well, get you have no
Speaker 1: idea there's some like a very interesting woman that will
Speaker 1: come come to talk to you. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: I see there's a lot of cougars.
Speaker 2: Of interesting interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, Okay, of the kind of type.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'll h I will certainly be I will
Speaker 2: certainly write that down in my notes app as a
Speaker 2: thing that I might do with my life at some
Speaker 2: point next time I go to Japan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean why not?
Speaker 2: Oh what was the ratio? Like? Is it like mostly dudes?
Speaker 1: No? No, there's a do and the girls like not,
Speaker 1: there's not like a much girl must do or I
Speaker 1: don't know some sometimes it depends on the event or
Speaker 1: because every day I have a type of different scene,
Speaker 1: like a naked party or game band or like a
Speaker 1: hand tie party that kind of stuff. Every day it's different.
Speaker 2: You said that you are like, you know this group
Speaker 2: of people or something that you've seen them go beyond
Speaker 2: stai who is this group? It's just like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, absolutely heard about this. Uh this
Speaker 1: website is called fat Life. So fat Life has a
Speaker 1: lot of people doing like a kind of different stuff
Speaker 1: than the normal people do. So I just joined different
Speaker 1: kind of group in Japan. Then I just realized that
Speaker 1: that's really fucked up, and I kind of like it
Speaker 1: so interesting to know what's going on, and they just
Speaker 1: show me while they look really doing it, and it's
Speaker 1: like a whole new worlds.
Speaker 2: Me, whoa what and they're doing like shabari? Yeah, like
Speaker 2: what like what does that look like?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Shabali actually kind of cool and they have
Speaker 1: a different type of Uh. You just pay like a
Speaker 1: two thousand, three thousand and join the the whole process
Speaker 1: the event, and they will just show you how they
Speaker 1: tie the girl. Kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Actually, all right, you might have to send me a
Speaker 2: d M and tell me where. Yeah, I will, okay,
Speaker 2: and so I can go, so I can go to
Speaker 2: them for research.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I was. I was sending you immediately after
Speaker 1: this call.
Speaker 2: On the on the Therapy Get podcast. Wow. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: interesting now I.
Speaker 1: Was, I just send you on your Instagram.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, for sure? Wait can I yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: wall are you sending me a profile of someone? Or
Speaker 2: is this wait? Is this like can I can I
Speaker 2: live look at this? Or is this like a private
Speaker 2: thing that you're sending me?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: You mean wait like this event?
Speaker 1: I mean this event? I mean how can I say that?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe you just need to join be a
Speaker 1: like a to be a member of the website and
Speaker 1: you will be fine because there's like nothing nothing too
Speaker 1: too complicated. You just need to die out your email
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and you don't have to be
Speaker 1: fully like a tell you what you're into or your name.
Speaker 1: You can be just what I raised the Kobie monster,
Speaker 1: or I raise.
Speaker 2: It sli interesting, dude, it is so it's so fat.
Speaker 2: I wanted I got to talk to like a historian
Speaker 2: or some ship, because I that dichotomy going on in
Speaker 2: Japan is genuinely just fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. I went to the uh uh I went
Speaker 2: to this big, like six story sex shop and they
Speaker 2: have like have you there's there's a specific like famous
Speaker 2: one I think in Akiapara. Uh oh yeah, dude, and
Speaker 2: they have the I don't the jury's out on if
Speaker 2: this is real. I think it's not real. I think
Speaker 2: they're using I think they're I think there that it's fake.
Speaker 2: But there's a vending machine where you can buy like
Speaker 2: period blood panties.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, I heard that. I've seen well.
Speaker 2: Though, but that's got it. That's gotta be like fucking
Speaker 2: like panties with like red dye on it, right, Like,
Speaker 2: there's no way they're really collect How are they going
Speaker 2: to source that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean if it's real. That's fucked up.
Speaker 1: If it's not real, and that's still weird, I mean,
Speaker 1: what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't it is, it's I don't know. That's
Speaker 2: that's gotta be someone's thing, you know what. That's my
Speaker 2: guess is that it's not real, but it's someone's thing,
Speaker 2: And so they're engaged in a suspension of disbelief. They're
Speaker 2: engaged in a suspension of disbelief where they buy it, yea,
Speaker 2: believing it could be real, kind of like how people
Speaker 2: will like chat on OnlyFans with a lady and it's
Speaker 2: clearly not them. But again, the suspension of disbelief is
Speaker 2: keep it, keeping the boner alive, and then they just like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just for them to it's it's it's
Speaker 2: a win all around. They get to pretend like they're
Speaker 2: smelling period blood panties and nobody has to volunteer their
Speaker 2: period blood.
Speaker 1: There is a website in Japan. There's a website in
Speaker 1: Japan people buying underwear, and you know, on the it's
Speaker 1: all like a high school kid and they still the cheese.
Speaker 1: Christ Yeah, I've seen that before. Yes, Jesus, it's very nasty,
Speaker 1: very nasty. Yes, yeah it is. Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 2: You know, Japan has nice stuff too. Fuck I missed
Speaker 2: the damn why you're making me want to fucking you're
Speaker 2: making me think about like the loss and.
Speaker 1: Oh baby, and Lost Night is the best. Lost Night
Speaker 1: is a genius.
Speaker 2: Yes, Lost In is a genius.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a lot of good food and you
Speaker 1: know they have a good case and why raise it?
Speaker 2: I love it there. There are three main convenience store
Speaker 2: chains in Tokyo. There's the Loss in the Family seven
Speaker 2: eleven and yeah they're open twenty four hours. They have
Speaker 2: delicious food.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Fuck all right, all right, I gotta make it back there.
Speaker 2: I should have moved. No, I'm glad. I'm I'm I
Speaker 2: think it's okay that I didn't move. But I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: pant's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What else do you miss about Japan beside convenience store?
Speaker 2: Well, I like, uh, well, actually, what's funny is while
Speaker 2: I was there, I was there for two months and
Speaker 2: I went to a lot of stuff, Like I went
Speaker 2: to yeah, you know, I went to this like art
Speaker 2: party event thing. I went to this uh twitch event thing.
Speaker 2: I went to poker night, I went to I went
Speaker 2: I was dude, I went to synagogue in Tokyo once.
Speaker 1: That's so cool.
Speaker 2: My friend and I I was just like, uh, I
Speaker 2: was just like I wonder what, like I wanted to
Speaker 2: show my friend like Jewish stuff, and so I was like,
Speaker 2: is there a synagogue? I was like. So I was like,
Speaker 2: is there a synagogue in Tokyo? Like what is that like?
Speaker 2: And so we went and we had like Shabbat dinner
Speaker 2: at this synagogue in Tokyo, and there was like there
Speaker 2: was one there was like one Japanese. There was like
Speaker 2: one old Japanese woman there. I mean, there was a
Speaker 2: lot of people there. They were mainly like they're they're
Speaker 2: all over the world, but there's only one Japanese person there.
Speaker 2: And she wasn't even Jewish. She was just like she
Speaker 2: was just like a fuck with this, this is interesting.
Speaker 2: So she just shows up and but yeah, I went
Speaker 2: to all this stuff and like, uh, it was cool
Speaker 2: because even though there is a thing like a little
Speaker 2: a thing that feels like, guess a little bit isolating
Speaker 2: or lonely about like being a foreigner in a country,
Speaker 2: there's so many spaces where you can get together with
Speaker 2: other foreigners and so like the community aspect is really strong. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I went to this like I went to I went
Speaker 2: to this like English like like this thing where like
Speaker 2: you just show up and like people are like this.
Speaker 2: There's Japanese people there but also foreigners and everyone's just
Speaker 2: trying to practice their English. So you just show up
Speaker 2: and just talk to a table of people and yeah,
Speaker 2: they just have all they have all these different kinds
Speaker 2: of interesting events. Yeah, so I felt like, I felt
Speaker 2: like that there's a strong there's a strong foreigner community there.
Speaker 2: So I missed doing that kind of stuff that was fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you should try well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe hi hike, you should hike a little or just
Speaker 1: hike a mountain Fuji or some shit. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, the last time I was there, we did the
Speaker 2: Nacascendo trail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not Cancento, but I mean if you try to
Speaker 1: or be near or the near the mountain Fujia or something,
Speaker 1: that'll be cool.
Speaker 2: Man. I don't know if I have it in me
Speaker 2: to hike some shit.
Speaker 1: You're too tired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like a nice I like a flat incline.
Speaker 2: I'll take a flat incline anyhow. Week that's my favorite
Speaker 2: kind of incline is none.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get I get you. Yeah, yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 2: Rica. You said your name was.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I'm so glad you still remember my name.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I also have it right in front of me. Okay,
Speaker 2: actually no, I haven't run in front of me, but
Speaker 2: I didn't look at it, so I did remember it. Yes,
Speaker 2: I did remember it. I haven't run from so I
Speaker 2: do remember it. Rika. I appreciate you, uh, sharing all
Speaker 2: this stuff with us. This was this was a yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a fascinating call. This was this. I feel
Speaker 2: like this was It was nostalgic for me, just thinking
Speaker 2: about Japan and.
Speaker 1: Shot oh yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Uh learning about crazy stuff. I'm very I'm curious. I'm
Speaker 2: going to check out this whatever stuff that you send me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will send you in your Instagram, so yeah,
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: Check it's Is there anything that we didn't cover We
Speaker 2: talked for forty eight minutes, anything that.
Speaker 1: I don't know? Why? Ball? You asked me one last question.
Speaker 2: Then you want me to ask you one more question?
Speaker 1: Yeah, one last one.
Speaker 2: All right, let me think, what did you eat for
Speaker 2: It's probably it's it's probably now it's the afternoon over there.
Speaker 2: What are you what are you going to eat for lunch.
Speaker 1: I'm probably makes. Oh do you miss Japanese curry?
Speaker 2: Japanese curry you're gonna make You're gonna make chicken curry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what's up. Yeah, absolutely, that's cool.
Speaker 2: That's like the that's like the chicken tenders and fries
Speaker 2: of Japan.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What's your favorite restaurant in Ja? Panel?
Speaker 2: Uh? Fuck, it's there's a Oh oh, pepper pepper grill, pepper.
Speaker 1: Lunch, pepper lunch, pepper lunge. Yeah, pepper lounges, steak calder.
Speaker 2: That's pepper lunch rocks. Everyone go to Japan. Japan is
Speaker 2: so cool. I mean Japan. Going on vacation to Japan
Speaker 2: as an American is awesome, undeniable. Yeah, definitely, Rica Jack
Speaker 2: bless have a good rest of your day.
Speaker 3: And may I ask you that.
Speaker 1: At least call you because I'm not sure is the
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Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, this.
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Speaker 2: This call will cost hold on, I'm going to tell
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can see from the PC.
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Speaker 2: this call costs twenty dollars. And let me tell you.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I think twenty dollars, twenty dollars, twenty dollars well spent.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the people.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do?
Speaker 2: What are you saying?
Speaker 1: Don't do fat noel? Okay, let me tell everyone say
Speaker 1: about that. Don't do fatanyl and don't do drugs too much,
Speaker 1: and don't drink too much alcohol.
Speaker 2: Those are wise words.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, yes. And if you no one will
Speaker 1: fuck you, just try to fuck yourself. That's it.
Speaker 2: If no one will fuck you, just fuck yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you, Rika, have a good rest of you.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks by Rika. That was Rika.
Speaker 1: M.
Speaker 2: That was a good call. That was nice. That was
Speaker 2: that was very entertaining. Man, go to Pepper, Go to
Speaker 2: Tokyo and go to Pepper lunch. Dude, it's so good.
Speaker 2: They fucking bring you this plate of It's like it's
Speaker 2: just like meat and rice and egg and vegetables. Oh,
Speaker 2: I mean you can get that at home. I can
Speaker 2: go to the grocery store right now and get that.
Speaker 2: But dude, thing thing Japan. I'm telling you egg egg Japan.
Speaker 2: Egg Japan beats egg every time.
Speaker 3: Is this therapy gecko?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Hi?
Speaker 2: Who is this?
Speaker 3: Hey? My name is Zoe. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 3: I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: Zoe. You texted me and you said my name is Zoe.
Speaker 2: I need to know if I'm wrong or not about
Speaker 2: this absolutely dumb situation that I'm in. Is that accurate?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay? What is this dumb situation that you were in?
Speaker 3: So? I'm living with my boyfriend and his pretty much
Speaker 3: entire family. Like but like I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 3: little like like little scenario for you.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: So there's one house and the house has me, my boyfriend,
Speaker 3: my daughter, and his aunt and uncle. And then there's
Speaker 3: a separate house behind our house, and that's where his
Speaker 3: cousin and his fiance and their three kids live and
Speaker 3: low key his cousin's fiance, like dead ass really pissed
Speaker 3: me off. And I've been told that apparently I'm wrong
Speaker 3: in this situation, but like.
Speaker 2: I feel like I Wasn't you have a sitcom brady
Speaker 2: bunch ass life dude?
Speaker 3: Oh trust me, I could tell you a whole I
Speaker 3: could tell you my whole life story and you'd make
Speaker 3: your job be dropped.
Speaker 2: Okay, So why did your cousin Okay, let me get
Speaker 2: this straight.
Speaker 3: Why man's cousin's Beyonce.
Speaker 2: Yes, your your man's cousin's fiance is pissing you off? Why?
Speaker 3: So, like I have, so my boyfriend has a daughter
Speaker 3: that sleeps over at their house because in our house
Speaker 3: we just don't have enough room. And like, first, like
Speaker 3: we had an addict area that could be for her,
Speaker 3: but it was just covered in dog piss all in
Speaker 3: the carpet and walls and everything. So like we just
Speaker 3: decided not to put her up there and just let
Speaker 3: her stay over at her tech nickley and uncle's house.
Speaker 3: And so my mind, you, my bonus child is a bedwetter.
Speaker 3: I love her dearly, but she has a little bit
Speaker 3: of a bed wetter. But so I got a text
Speaker 3: like two weeks ago from the cousin's fiance telling me
Speaker 3: that my bonus daughter, like, mind you, she texted me
Speaker 3: at five fifty six in the morning, and she pretty
Speaker 3: much just texted me while I was sleeping, saying that
Speaker 3: my bonus child soaked through the pea pads. And she
Speaker 3: was like, so, she's gonna either have to sleep in
Speaker 3: her own bed or in a plastic toddler bed because
Speaker 3: sometimes she's like to sleep with her cousin and she
Speaker 3: so she also says, I don't know nighttime pull ups.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've been up since five with them,
Speaker 3: which is a lie because I went through their cameras
Speaker 3: in the my bonus child and her cousin didn't wake
Speaker 3: up till I'm about to say, like five fifty in
Speaker 3: the morning. So I already knew she was bullshit from
Speaker 3: the beginning. And mind you, this is the third time
Speaker 3: that she has I'll get I'll get into it because
Speaker 3: she she makes me so mad.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so I'm gonna really, I'm gonna really have
Speaker 2: to use my brain here to uh, yes, comprehend the
Speaker 2: degrees of separation. Bonus child is your way of staying
Speaker 2: step daughter, right, yes, yes, that's a cute way to
Speaker 2: stay you know what. I like that. That's cute. I
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah. Okay, I've never heard that before too.
Speaker 2: I've never heard that. Bonus child that's what that's that's yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what you give to like a step uh child
Speaker 2: that you're like close with. You know, sounds it sounds
Speaker 2: like it sounds like you. I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is this girl's mother around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's around. Okay, it's like we get we get
Speaker 3: her on weekend send her mom obviously has her on weekdays.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay. So the boyfriend's cousin's fiance where her
Speaker 2: and from the perspective of her, her fiance's cousin's daughter
Speaker 2: is peeing in the bed.
Speaker 3: No, my bonus child is peeing the bed.
Speaker 2: Your bonus child is your bonus child? Is this woman's
Speaker 2: cousin's is your bonus child? Is this woman's fiance's cousin's daughter.
Speaker 3: Mhm m hm. Now she so, I'll make it so
Speaker 3: much simpler. So d is my boyfriend b is the
Speaker 3: cousin's fiance.
Speaker 2: Oh, ship, the bonus the bonus child. Okay, the bonus
Speaker 2: child is your boy okay, so okay, And and this
Speaker 2: woman is your boyfriend's cousin's fiance.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the SpongeBob meme where the guy's like, okay,
Speaker 2: so this wallet has your ID on it, and it's
Speaker 2: got a picture of you, and it's got your name.
Speaker 2: So this is your yes, so this is your wallet.
Speaker 2: That feels like the conversation that we just had.
Speaker 3: So confusing when I try to tell people this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: people were known my dynamic, they would understand a little more.
Speaker 2: But so it's okay, So all right, this woman, whoever
Speaker 2: she lives in this everyone pays equal amount of rent
Speaker 2: in this house. Yes, that's important. Everyone is okay, all right?
Speaker 2: And uh the your bonus child is she sharing a
Speaker 2: bed with this woman's fiance.
Speaker 3: Uh no, she shares a bed with uh my, oh,
Speaker 3: it gets so wordy. She shares a bed with her cousin,
Speaker 3: who's a girl as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, so this woman has kids, Yeah.
Speaker 3: She has like three kids.
Speaker 2: Okay, So this woman has three kids also living in
Speaker 2: that house, and then this girl and then you're okay,
Speaker 2: so this woman has three kids also live in the house.
Speaker 2: Your bonus child is sleeping with one of her kids
Speaker 2: and pissing the bed.
Speaker 1: Yes, And.
Speaker 2: Then this woman is getting mad at you because your
Speaker 2: bonus child is pissing the bed.
Speaker 3: Well, so she let me know that she was wetting
Speaker 3: the bed, but I was asleep at this time, So like,
Speaker 3: how am I really supposed to know? And I didn't
Speaker 3: text her until an hour later, and I said, just
Speaker 3: probably put her on a plastic toddler bed. Just have
Speaker 3: to make sure that she goes to the bathroom before
Speaker 3: she goes to bed. And then I asked her, I said,
Speaker 3: did she have anything to drink other than the caprice?
Speaker 3: And she had for dinner? Nothing wrong with that question, right.
Speaker 2: Oh you're asking me, of course, nothing wrong with that question.
Speaker 3: Yes. So then she texts me back saying, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't keep track of her, and it's not my
Speaker 3: respect reponsibility to keep to continue to be up at
Speaker 3: night and early morning every weekend with her because she peas.
Speaker 2: She she's kind, she's kind of being a bitch. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, you're all a strong This was strong words,
Speaker 2: but that was what I'm trying to go off of
Speaker 2: my gut here this one do I is this woman
Speaker 2: a bitch.
Speaker 3: I don't know this is the third time.
Speaker 2: But like I feel like, but I feel like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, you guys are doing a whole He's the
Speaker 2: thing though, It's like you guys are doing a whole big.
Speaker 1: Do you do you?
Speaker 2: Okay? I shouldn't called this one a bitch. Uh too
Speaker 2: too fast, because you're not like pawning the bonus daughter
Speaker 2: off onto her like everyone like this is you're doing.
Speaker 2: You know that, you know it takes a village. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys see it. I don't you seem like you
Speaker 2: have a unique dynamic. I'm gonna pretend like I understand it,
Speaker 2: but it kind of just seems like you have this ecosystem.
Speaker 2: There's eight billion kids running around, there's eight billion adults
Speaker 2: running around. You guys have created this ecosystem, and in
Speaker 2: that fucking ecosystem, there's just kind of a thing where
Speaker 2: it's like if you're an adult and there's kids and
Speaker 2: you're the adult in the room, you're kind of you
Speaker 2: have like you know, it's not my like whatever, like
Speaker 2: everyone like we're all you know, taking turns, fucking pitching
Speaker 2: and doing our part work. You know, she's being a
Speaker 2: part of this community of some kind like like this
Speaker 2: woman has kids. I'm sure if the kids were at
Speaker 2: your house, you would feel that way towards them. Correct, well, not.
Speaker 3: Really, because I like, when I finished reading the bs
Speaker 3: that she has said, like I will like catch you
Speaker 3: up to like I'll give you backstories because like.
Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time unders standing the front stories.
Speaker 3: It's like her kids can always come over. I have
Speaker 3: never had a problem with her kids coming over, Like
Speaker 3: sometimes her her youngest daughter will come over and like
Speaker 3: play with my youngest daughter, and like I wouldn't care
Speaker 3: because I'm like, she's keeping my baby occupied. Like cool,
Speaker 3: I can finish some stuff like you know, like okay,
Speaker 3: but it's but like because like I said, we were
Speaker 3: gonna put my bonus daughter up in the attic upstairs
Speaker 3: because it technically was a room before my man's uncle
Speaker 3: decided to turn that upstairs into an addict. But like
Speaker 3: I'm gonna it was covered in dog pissed.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna ask some more pointed questions. Mm hmm,
Speaker 2: you referred to your I'm gonna call your man. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna let's keep your man. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys are married or whatever. Who cares you're man. Your
Speaker 2: man is your man, He's in your life. You love him.
Speaker 2: He's your family. He's a family. He's a family so
Speaker 2: much that his daughter is your bonus child. It's really lovely.
Speaker 2: Does your man have a close relationship with his cousin?
Speaker 3: I would say yeah, they kind of grew up together.
Speaker 2: Okay, this woman that you're having strife with and her husband,
Speaker 2: they're they're in They're in your husband's they're in your
Speaker 2: man's universe. This woman's in your man's universe. Correct. Yeah,
Speaker 2: whether or not she's a central character for the past half,
Speaker 2: she's it. She lives with him. She's in your man's universe.
Speaker 2: Do you think she'll continue to be in your man's universe?
Speaker 3: M my, my thought. I hope not, but in reality
Speaker 3: probably yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I.
Speaker 3: Will let you know. I will let you know. This
Speaker 3: girl has switched brothers before she started dating this her.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's I I The gossip about this lady
Speaker 2: is still I want to get pointed with this. Okay,
Speaker 2: she's in your for now, she's in your life, and
Speaker 2: she's in your so like, what's the most fucking like
Speaker 2: diplomatic way to go about this? Is what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 2: you want this to be a good relationship. You want
Speaker 2: to approach it from that point of view. You want
Speaker 2: this to be a good relationship because she's in your
Speaker 2: man's life. However distantly, like you know, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, m hm. So so if her and also
Speaker 2: there's like eighty of you guys, and then there's one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven kids, So you're just in You're
Speaker 2: just in this thing. You're just in this vast universe
Speaker 2: of all these people and all these kids. And so
Speaker 2: again like if her kids and also her kids are
Speaker 2: friends with your kids, so you want you want her
Speaker 2: kids are friends with your kids, and she's in your
Speaker 2: man's universe, so you want her kids to have You
Speaker 2: want to have a good relationship with this woman's kids.
Speaker 2: You want her to you want them to be able
Speaker 2: to trust you and to be excited to be around you.
Speaker 2: You know, so you know, you do your best to
Speaker 2: provide that for them. And then, by the fucking grace
Speaker 2: of God, hopefully and we can't control this, but but
Speaker 2: hopefully this lady you're your your boyfriend's dogs, doctor's daughter.
Speaker 2: Uh uh, cunt shit fuck asks what this lady? We
Speaker 2: all know the lady. We know who the lady is.
Speaker 2: By the grace of God, she'll want to reciprocate that
Speaker 2: because she'll she'll see that you're extending and all of
Speaker 2: an olive branch to her. But hopefully, and what she said.
Speaker 3: To me, I kind of don't really want to talk
Speaker 3: to her because.
Speaker 2: And that's that's that's your progative. If that's your thing,
Speaker 2: then go ahead, you know. But I'm just I'm just
Speaker 2: from the perspective, from the perspective of you want to
Speaker 2: keep the peace because life is easier for you living
Speaker 2: in this community if you're keeping the peace, that's the
Speaker 2: way to keep the peace. But if you if you
Speaker 2: don't want, if you don't want to talk to her,
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't have to.
Speaker 3: It's just like, this is like the third time that
Speaker 3: she has either said that I put my bonus child
Speaker 3: on like a back burner and that apparently I make
Speaker 3: my man not be a dad to her, which hurts
Speaker 3: my feelings because it's like I never wance like A
Speaker 3: I never talk bad about her parenting because A it's
Speaker 3: not really my place too, and be who the hell
Speaker 3: cares about my opinion about somebody else's parenting, and it's
Speaker 3: just like, I don't get why I ask a simple question,
Speaker 3: and then somehow it all turns to apparently me and
Speaker 3: my boyfriend don't take any responsibility for our kids, and
Speaker 3: apparently that we just burden all of our children on them,
Speaker 3: and that apparently we don't help with their kids, even
Speaker 3: though I have literally helped, like with their with her
Speaker 3: youngest daughter, like over summer.
Speaker 2: What's your what's your name again, Zoe? Zoe? So you
Speaker 2: sound like a lovely person. You care, You sound like
Speaker 2: you care about the people in your life, your bonus child.
Speaker 2: You've you've you've intentionally taken on giving a ship about
Speaker 2: people outside of yourself and even any and and outside
Speaker 2: of your blood. I think that inherently, uh makes you
Speaker 2: a nice person. And I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: anything about this other lady she's I don't I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if I have anything
Speaker 2: more to say about this that I haven't said already.
Speaker 2: But you just told me your name, Zoe, Zoe? Is
Speaker 2: there anything else you want to say to the people
Speaker 2: of the computer before we go? Now?
Speaker 3: Honestly, God, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Sweet good luck, Zoe.
Speaker 3: Thank you by.
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